/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/24/#lubuntu.txt

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hoodie-1hi03:59
stlsainthoodie-1: hello04:00
hoodie-1i got java working in chromium by using lubuntu 10.04 instead of 11.0404:00
stlsainthoodie-1: cool04:00
hoodie-1but 10.04's flash plugin is glitchy.. in fact..04:00
stlsainti still run 10.04 :D04:00
hoodie-110.04 seems glitchy altogether.. idk what the deal is04:01
hoodie-1not right now, but i haven't started doing anything intensive04:01
hoodie-1like.. watching "the office" with flash from hulu.com was glitchy04:02
hoodie-1even at 280p04:02
hoodie-1i only have 1gb RAM, no video (integrated)04:02
hoodie-1but it worked well with 11.0404:02
KM0201hmm,04:03
KM0201why did you switch to 10.04?04:03
stlsaintslightly odd04:03
hoodie-1i updated all packages04:03
stlsaintKM0201: cause java issues on 11.0404:03
KM0201hmmm04:03
hoodie-1in 10.04 java applets work, not in 11.0404:03
hoodie-1maybe it was a one-time thing.. i doubt it.. idk04:04
jmarsdenhoodie-1: You can test that by booting from the 11.04 CD, doing "Try Lubuntu without installing", adding Java, and viewing Hulu... right?04:10
pmatulisi'm looking for a k/b s/c for shutting down w/o a p/w.  anyone?04:14
Byanjmarsden: well, hulu isnt java?04:14
pmatulisgetting tired of using the mouse for that04:14
jmarsdenByan: hulu is a web site, Java is a programming language.  if yu mean hulu's web site doesn't use Java, you might be right... but hoodie-1 thinks it does, apparently... or else I misread the earlier dialog.04:16
KM0201 hulu uses flash04:16
KM0201i'm watching something right now, it seems to be fine04:16
jmarsdenpmatulis: k/b s/c p/w ?  Can we use English?  sudo shutdown -h now   should work fine.  You can set /etc/sudoers to allow that exact command to happen without a password, if you need to.04:17
stlsaintjmarsden: time for a quick ping?04:17
jmarsdenstlsaint: Sure.04:17
pmatulisjmarsden: keyboard shortcut without password.  i know i can hack the sudoers file but i thought i could easily emulate the mousing i'm currently doing04:19
jmarsdenpmatulis: One line in a text file is (for me) easier than running some sort of weird GUI macro processing tool to fake mouse clicks... but I am generally more comfortable at a shell prompt than doing complex things in a GUI anyway :)04:21
hoodie-1yea it's glitchin out on me04:27
jmarsdenhoodie-1: I booted Lubuntu 11.04 from CD in a virtual machine here, added flashplayer-installer, and ran hulu just fine... so if there is an issue with chromium-browser or flash in 11.04, it may only show up on some particular computer hardware...04:40
hoodie-111.04 works fine here, but 10.04 doesn;t04:46
hoodie-1lubuntu 11.04's java applets don't work04:53
hoodie-1lubuntu 10.04's flash doesn't work nicely04:53
Byanhoodie-1: ok, lets establish something. hulu doesn't use java04:53
hoodie-1i know04:53
Byanok04:53
Byanso, both flash and java applets aren't working?04:53
hoodie-1flash works great in 11.0404:54
hoodie-1java works great in 10.0404:54
Byanok04:54
Byando you have sun java installed?04:54
hoodie-1right now i'm running 10.04. java works great, but flash is compromised04:54
hoodie-1i don't know if it's flash, or my whole system. i think it's my whole system.04:54
Byanwhat does that mean04:55
hoodie-1xtorrent seems to slow down and speed up04:55
hoodie-1oh, and mp3 streaming was having glitches similar to flash04:55
hoodie-1so it's not flash04:55
hoodie-1my mouse doesn't ever freeze, nor do graphics04:56
Byanmp3 streaming uses flash in most cases unless you're using a shoutcast stream from a music player or something04:56
hoodie-1i didn't know that...04:56
Byanpandora == flash04:56
Byanetc04:57
hoodie-1but trasmission seems to be going slow/fast in 10.0404:57
hoodie-1(torrents)04:57
hoodie-1i don't use pandora04:57
Byanwhat do you use?04:57
hoodie-1gnome mplayer04:57
hoodie-1128k mp3 stream04:57
Byanoh, thats probably not flash then.. that sounds like a shoutcast stream..04:57
Byandefinately not*04:58
hoodie-1ok so it's not flash04:58
Byanglitching how?04:58
hoodie-1video goes blank for 1-5 seconds every 30 seconds04:58
hoodie-1roughly04:59
hoodie-1pretty much the same with audio04:59
hoodie-1i wonder if 11.04 utilizes memory much better...04:59
hoodie-1i only have 1gb ram, no video ram (it's integrated)04:59
hoodie-1course, that doesn't explain mp3 streams05:00
hoodie-1so much..05:00
hoodie-1a long time ago i used to run hulu flash in firefox because i think it was smoother, but that was windows05:01
hoodie-1looking at my system monitor.. the cpu runs at 90-95-100% when video is going..05:04
hoodie-1ram is at like 25%05:04
hoodie-1hmm.. it was at 95% then cut out...05:05
Byansounds like a driver problem to me05:36
hoodie-1i updated all packages05:57
hoodie-1"no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"05:58
jmarsdenhoodie-1: Some older Intel video chipsets have many known issues; I don't know for sure that what you are seeing is one of them, but it may be.  What does     sudo lshw -c video -short |tail -n 1     output on your machine?06:31
hoodie-1display     Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller06:38
jmarsdenOK... That's not the "oldest" of the oldIntel video chipsets, but it's not that recent either.  Have you tried using the framebuffer driver instead of the Intel one to see if it makes any difference?06:45
jmarsden(Now I need to remember how to do that...!)06:46
jmarsdenMidnight here, time for bed, hope you get it straightened out; if not feel free to ask for help on the lubuntu-desktop mailing list, or come back here again :)06:55
hoodie-1hello??11:12
jitaI cannot seem to install lubuntu 11.04 under virtualbox 4.1.0, it hangs on startup and the screen flickers and says ubiquity crashed13:04
jitawhats the reason ?13:04
jitapeppermint os 2 installs fine13:05
phillwjita: how much RAM have you allocated the VM?13:11
jitaphillw: 256MB13:12
phillwthat's not enough RAM13:12
jitaphillw: i will try with 512mb13:12
phillwthat will be okay :)13:13
jitaphillw: works thanks a lot13:15
phillwyou're welcome.13:16
KM0201phillw: u been having issues w/ network manager by chance?13:23
phillwKM0201: I run lubuntu in VM's so my network is not managed by them.13:51
KM0201phillw: oh thats right13:51
KM0201my bad13:51
zorklathow do I add programs or scripts to the login or startx sequence?14:40
phillwzorklat: it is covered at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ14:46
zorklatI think I already have the program mentioned; i want to add the command xset  m 2 0 to it.14:50
zorklatit's not letting me add "xset m 2  0" to fix mouse acceleration15:04
Mike_lbHi, I installed Lubuntu and selected the option to encrypt /home. As I understand, my /home is now encrypted with ecryptfs and I read that it encrypts the files but you could still read the filenames. So I booted from a live cd and tried to look at my /home but it's empty, why is it?15:19
phillwI do not use encryption. If you ask on #ubuntu-beginners one of the people on there may have some experience of encryption.15:22
phillwzorklat: when you say 'not letting you add' could explain a bit more what you mean.15:27
Mike_lbthanks15:28
zorklatphillw, there's a list of apps in Desktop Session Settings, and no button to add more15:29
zorklatwhat I am REALLY looking for is a way to make mouse acceleration settings persist15:31
phillwzorklat: section 3 in guides on the FAQ covers adding an app to the start menu15:31
phillwdoes the keyboard / mouse settings not savev?15:32
zorklatnope, it crashes whenever I try to adjust acceleration or threshold.15:33
AmberJHello15:36
phillwzorklat: take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/725194 there has been a fix released, check that you are on the latest version of lxinput15:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 725194 in lxinput (Ubuntu) "lxinput crashed with SIGSEGV in XkbUseExtension()" [Medium,Fix released]15:36
zorklatthat fix isn't in synaptic, which is still at 0.3.0-0ubuntu415:40
zorklatfix is in 0.3.0-0ubuntu515:42
phillwgilir: lxinput is still @ version 4 in Synaptic, does the OP need to add the lubuntu ppa to get the version 5?15:44
phillwzorklat: I'm just asking the boss :)15:44
AmberJDid my question (5 posts) got to this channel before I disconnected?15:45
phillwAmberJ: I only saw the Hello15:46
AmberJ:(15:46
gilirphillw, the fix is only available in oneiric for now15:46
zorklatwell, rats.  is there somewhere I can download a .deb?15:47
phillwgilir: any suggestions for a workaround? apart from adding the  oneric repo and *just* grabbing the newer lxinput, before removing the repo again?15:47
gilirphillw, adding the oneiric repo on a natty install is not a good idea :)15:49
phillwI know, that is why I would prefer a different method. It will squeal like a pig. I can try it on my VM and see if it kills it if you think it has any chance of actually working?15:50
AmberJainArghh....got disconnected again15:50
AmberJainAnyone suggested anything?15:51
phillwAmberJain: we are still awaiting to see the question :/15:51
AmberJain:(15:52
AmberJainThis is a weird problem I'm facing...15:52
AmberJainWhenever I use any voice chat application, then my mic volume is always 100%...15:52
AmberJainEven if I try to decrease it using alsamixergui, it auto shoots back to 100%15:52
AmberJain Also, the 'lock' buttons in alsamixergui (that are supposed to lock volume imho) dont seem to work for me15:52
AmberJains/are/is15:52
* AmberJain forgot to correct typo 3rd time in a row ;)15:53
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phillwdrat, e left :(16:40
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chjjanyone around?17:45
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Guest10153hello18:17
vieq_Hello, so um guys; I have ubuntu 11.04 and I want to go with lubuntu....do I apt-get install -install-recommends lubuntu-desktop && apt-get purge ubuntu-minimal ?18:53
vieq_or I 'll f*** things up this way?18:53
vieq_I already added the repo.18:53
vieq_or do fresh install and save all the whales?18:55
vieq_never mind, I found my answer18:55
vieq_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install_Lubuntu_from_Ubuntu_or_any_Ubuntu_flavors18:55
AleksanderHello. What is the lightest word processor with full support for .DOC, page numbers etc?20:42
bioterrordoesnt abiword do that?20:44
stlsainti believe so20:44
Aleksanderbioterror, haven't seen abiword for a long time, but I haven't seen page numbers in it20:45
bioterrorlubuntu comes with abiword?20:46
stlsaintAleksander: well go with libre20:46
Aleksanderstlsaint, is there an option to install only LibreOffice Writer, without the whole office?20:46
stlsaintAleksander: not that i am aware of20:47
stlsaintAleksander: mayeb quick google search but i have not personally seen one20:47
Aleksanderstlsaint, i'm doing search right now but I can't see anything20:48
silverarrowhi23:46
silverarrowis anyone in lubuntu right now?23:46
silverarrowcould anyone talk me through filesystems on linux and microsoft, regarding a harddisk that needs formatting?23:47
silverarrowanyone by the computer?23:48
silverarrowis there a way to have a filesystem on a external hard drive that works with Vista and Lubuntu interchangably ?23:49
bioterrorNTFS23:53
bioterroruse install gparted23:53
bioterrornext!23:53
silverarrowlol23:53
silverarrowcool23:54
silverarrowI have g parted,  but I was a bit unshore about the linux/windows interchangablity, I need it to run smoothly23:54
silverarrowthanks bioterror23:55

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