[03:59] <a> hi
[03:59] <hoodie-1> hi
[04:00] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: hello
[04:00] <hoodie-1> i got java working in chromium by using lubuntu 10.04 instead of 11.04
[04:00] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: cool
[04:00] <hoodie-1> but 10.04's flash plugin is glitchy.. in fact..
[04:00] <stlsaint> i still run 10.04 :D
[04:01] <hoodie-1> 10.04 seems glitchy altogether.. idk what the deal is
[04:01] <hoodie-1> not right now, but i haven't started doing anything intensive
[04:02] <hoodie-1> like.. watching "the office" with flash from hulu.com was glitchy
[04:02] <hoodie-1> even at 280p
[04:02] <hoodie-1> i only have 1gb RAM, no video (integrated)
[04:02] <hoodie-1> but it worked well with 11.04
[04:03] <KM0201> hmm,
[04:03] <KM0201> why did you switch to 10.04?
[04:03] <stlsaint> slightly odd
[04:03] <hoodie-1> i updated all packages
[04:03] <stlsaint> KM0201: cause java issues on 11.04
[04:03] <KM0201> hmmm
[04:03] <hoodie-1> in 10.04 java applets work, not in 11.04
[04:04] <hoodie-1> maybe it was a one-time thing.. i doubt it.. idk
[04:10] <jmarsden> hoodie-1: You can test that by booting from the 11.04 CD, doing "Try Lubuntu without installing", adding Java, and viewing Hulu... right?
[04:14] <pmatulis> i'm looking for a k/b s/c for shutting down w/o a p/w.  anyone?
[04:14] <Byan> jmarsden: well, hulu isnt java?
[04:14] <pmatulis> getting tired of using the mouse for that
[04:16] <jmarsden> Byan: hulu is a web site, Java is a programming language.  if yu mean hulu's web site doesn't use Java, you might be right... but hoodie-1 thinks it does, apparently... or else I misread the earlier dialog.
[04:16] <KM0201>  hulu uses flash
[04:16] <KM0201> i'm watching something right now, it seems to be fine
[04:17] <jmarsden> pmatulis: k/b s/c p/w ?  Can we use English?  sudo shutdown -h now   should work fine.  You can set /etc/sudoers to allow that exact command to happen without a password, if you need to.
[04:17] <stlsaint> jmarsden: time for a quick ping?
[04:17] <jmarsden> stlsaint: Sure.
[04:19] <pmatulis> jmarsden: keyboard shortcut without password.  i know i can hack the sudoers file but i thought i could easily emulate the mousing i'm currently doing
[04:21] <jmarsden> pmatulis: One line in a text file is (for me) easier than running some sort of weird GUI macro processing tool to fake mouse clicks... but I am generally more comfortable at a shell prompt than doing complex things in a GUI anyway :)
[04:27] <hoodie-1> yea it's glitchin out on me
[04:40] <jmarsden> hoodie-1: I booted Lubuntu 11.04 from CD in a virtual machine here, added flashplayer-installer, and ran hulu just fine... so if there is an issue with chromium-browser or flash in 11.04, it may only show up on some particular computer hardware...
[04:46] <hoodie-1> 11.04 works fine here, but 10.04 doesn;t
[04:53] <hoodie-1> lubuntu 11.04's java applets don't work
[04:53] <hoodie-1> lubuntu 10.04's flash doesn't work nicely
[04:53] <Byan> hoodie-1: ok, lets establish something. hulu doesn't use java
[04:53] <hoodie-1> i know
[04:53] <Byan> ok
[04:53] <Byan> so, both flash and java applets aren't working?
[04:54] <hoodie-1> flash works great in 11.04
[04:54] <hoodie-1> java works great in 10.04
[04:54] <Byan> ok
[04:54] <Byan> do you have sun java installed?
[04:54] <hoodie-1> right now i'm running 10.04. java works great, but flash is compromised
[04:54] <hoodie-1> i don't know if it's flash, or my whole system. i think it's my whole system.
[04:55] <Byan> what does that mean
[04:55] <hoodie-1> xtorrent seems to slow down and speed up
[04:55] <hoodie-1> oh, and mp3 streaming was having glitches similar to flash
[04:55] <hoodie-1> so it's not flash
[04:56] <hoodie-1> my mouse doesn't ever freeze, nor do graphics
[04:56] <Byan> mp3 streaming uses flash in most cases unless you're using a shoutcast stream from a music player or something
[04:56] <hoodie-1> i didn't know that...
[04:56] <Byan> pandora == flash
[04:57] <Byan> etc
[04:57] <hoodie-1> but trasmission seems to be going slow/fast in 10.04
[04:57] <hoodie-1> (torrents)
[04:57] <hoodie-1> i don't use pandora
[04:57] <Byan> what do you use?
[04:57] <hoodie-1> gnome mplayer
[04:57] <hoodie-1> 128k mp3 stream
[04:57] <Byan> oh, thats probably not flash then.. that sounds like a shoutcast stream..
[04:58] <Byan> definately not*
[04:58] <hoodie-1> ok so it's not flash
[04:58] <Byan> glitching how?
[04:58] <hoodie-1> video goes blank for 1-5 seconds every 30 seconds
[04:59] <hoodie-1> roughly
[04:59] <hoodie-1> pretty much the same with audio
[04:59] <hoodie-1> i wonder if 11.04 utilizes memory much better...
[04:59] <hoodie-1> i only have 1gb ram, no video ram (it's integrated)
[05:00] <hoodie-1> course, that doesn't explain mp3 streams
[05:00] <hoodie-1> so much..
[05:01] <hoodie-1> a long time ago i used to run hulu flash in firefox because i think it was smoother, but that was windows
[05:04] <hoodie-1> looking at my system monitor.. the cpu runs at 90-95-100% when video is going..
[05:04] <hoodie-1> ram is at like 25%
[05:05] <hoodie-1> hmm.. it was at 95% then cut out...
[05:36] <Byan> sounds like a driver problem to me
[05:57] <hoodie-1> i updated all packages
[05:58] <hoodie-1> "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[06:31] <jmarsden> hoodie-1: Some older Intel video chipsets have many known issues; I don't know for sure that what you are seeing is one of them, but it may be.  What does     sudo lshw -c video -short |tail -n 1     output on your machine?
[06:38] <hoodie-1> display     Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[06:45] <jmarsden> OK... That's not the "oldest" of the oldIntel video chipsets, but it's not that recent either.  Have you tried using the framebuffer driver instead of the Intel one to see if it makes any difference?
[06:46] <jmarsden> (Now I need to remember how to do that...!)
[06:55] <jmarsden> Midnight here, time for bed, hope you get it straightened out; if not feel free to ask for help on the lubuntu-desktop mailing list, or come back here again :)
[11:12] <hoodie-1> hello??
[13:04] <jita> I cannot seem to install lubuntu 11.04 under virtualbox 4.1.0, it hangs on startup and the screen flickers and says ubiquity crashed
[13:04] <jita> whats the reason ?
[13:05] <jita> peppermint os 2 installs fine
[13:11] <phillw> jita: how much RAM have you allocated the VM?
[13:12] <jita> phillw: 256MB
[13:12] <phillw> that's not enough RAM
[13:12] <jita> phillw: i will try with 512mb
[13:13] <phillw> that will be okay :)
[13:15] <jita> phillw: works thanks a lot
[13:16] <phillw> you're welcome.
[13:23] <KM0201> phillw: u been having issues w/ network manager by chance?
[13:51] <phillw> KM0201: I run lubuntu in VM's so my network is not managed by them.
[13:51] <KM0201> phillw: oh thats right
[13:51] <KM0201> my bad
[14:40] <zorklat> how do I add programs or scripts to the login or startx sequence?
[14:46] <phillw> zorklat: it is covered at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ
[14:50] <zorklat> I think I already have the program mentioned; i want to add the command xset  m 2 0 to it.
[15:04] <zorklat> it's not letting me add "xset m 2  0" to fix mouse acceleration
[15:19] <Mike_lb> Hi, I installed Lubuntu and selected the option to encrypt /home. As I understand, my /home is now encrypted with ecryptfs and I read that it encrypts the files but you could still read the filenames. So I booted from a live cd and tried to look at my /home but it's empty, why is it?
[15:22] <phillw> I do not use encryption. If you ask on #ubuntu-beginners one of the people on there may have some experience of encryption.
[15:27] <phillw> zorklat: when you say 'not letting you add' could explain a bit more what you mean.
[15:28] <Mike_lb> thanks
[15:29] <zorklat> phillw, there's a list of apps in Desktop Session Settings, and no button to add more
[15:31] <zorklat> what I am REALLY looking for is a way to make mouse acceleration settings persist
[15:31] <phillw> zorklat: section 3 in guides on the FAQ covers adding an app to the start menu
[15:32] <phillw> does the keyboard / mouse settings not savev?
[15:33] <zorklat> nope, it crashes whenever I try to adjust acceleration or threshold.
[15:36] <AmberJ> Hello
[15:36] <phillw> zorklat: take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/725194 there has been a fix released, check that you are on the latest version of lxinput
[15:40] <zorklat> that fix isn't in synaptic, which is still at 0.3.0-0ubuntu4
[15:42] <zorklat> fix is in 0.3.0-0ubuntu5
[15:44] <phillw> gilir: lxinput is still @ version 4 in Synaptic, does the OP need to add the lubuntu ppa to get the version 5?
[15:44] <phillw> zorklat: I'm just asking the boss :)
[15:45] <AmberJ> Did my question (5 posts) got to this channel before I disconnected?
[15:46] <phillw> AmberJ: I only saw the Hello
[15:46] <AmberJ> :(
[15:46] <gilir> phillw, the fix is only available in oneiric for now
[15:47] <zorklat> well, rats.  is there somewhere I can download a .deb?
[15:47] <phillw> gilir: any suggestions for a workaround? apart from adding the  oneric repo and *just* grabbing the newer lxinput, before removing the repo again?
[15:49] <gilir> phillw, adding the oneiric repo on a natty install is not a good idea :)
[15:50] <phillw> I know, that is why I would prefer a different method. It will squeal like a pig. I can try it on my VM and see if it kills it if you think it has any chance of actually working?
[15:50] <AmberJain> Arghh....got disconnected again
[15:51] <AmberJain> Anyone suggested anything?
[15:51] <phillw> AmberJain: we are still awaiting to see the question :/
[15:52] <AmberJain> :(
[15:52] <AmberJain> This is a weird problem I'm facing...
[15:52] <AmberJain> Whenever I use any voice chat application, then my mic volume is always 100%...
[15:52] <AmberJain> Even if I try to decrease it using alsamixergui, it auto shoots back to 100%
[15:52] <AmberJain>  Also, the 'lock' buttons in alsamixergui (that are supposed to lock volume imho) dont seem to work for me
[15:52] <AmberJain> s/are/is
[15:53]  * AmberJain forgot to correct typo 3rd time in a row ;)
[16:29] <guestnnnn> sdf
[16:40] <phillw> drat, e left :(
[17:45] <chjj> anyone around?
[18:17] <Guest10153> hello
[18:53] <vieq_> Hello, so um guys; I have ubuntu 11.04 and I want to go with lubuntu....do I apt-get install -install-recommends lubuntu-desktop && apt-get purge ubuntu-minimal ?
[18:53] <vieq_> or I 'll f*** things up this way?
[18:53] <vieq_> I already added the repo.
[18:55] <vieq_> or do fresh install and save all the whales?
[18:55] <vieq_> never mind, I found my answer
[18:55] <vieq_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install_Lubuntu_from_Ubuntu_or_any_Ubuntu_flavors
[20:42] <Aleksander> Hello. What is the lightest word processor with full support for .DOC, page numbers etc?
[20:44] <bioterror> doesnt abiword do that?
[20:44] <stlsaint> i believe so
[20:45] <Aleksander> bioterror, haven't seen abiword for a long time, but I haven't seen page numbers in it
[20:46] <bioterror> lubuntu comes with abiword?
[20:46] <stlsaint> Aleksander: well go with libre
[20:46] <Aleksander> stlsaint, is there an option to install only LibreOffice Writer, without the whole office?
[20:47] <stlsaint> Aleksander: not that i am aware of
[20:47] <stlsaint> Aleksander: mayeb quick google search but i have not personally seen one
[20:48] <Aleksander> stlsaint, i'm doing search right now but I can't see anything
[23:46] <silverarrow> hi
[23:46] <silverarrow> is anyone in lubuntu right now?
[23:47] <silverarrow> could anyone talk me through filesystems on linux and microsoft, regarding a harddisk that needs formatting?
[23:48] <silverarrow> anyone by the computer?
[23:49] <silverarrow> is there a way to have a filesystem on a external hard drive that works with Vista and Lubuntu interchangably ?
[23:53] <bioterror> NTFS
[23:53] <bioterror> use install gparted
[23:53] <bioterror> next!
[23:53] <silverarrow> lol
[23:54] <silverarrow> cool
[23:54] <silverarrow> I have g parted,  but I was a bit unshore about the linux/windows interchangablity, I need it to run smoothly
[23:55] <silverarrow> thanks bioterror