| === stdin is now known as tsimpson | ||
| Zetanor | Howdy | 02:18 |
|---|---|---|
| Zetanor | So this is my first time running Ubuntu and the computer locks if I start X without a network connection | 02:18 |
| Zetanor | I'm assuming that it's not a common issue? | 02:19 |
| stlsaint | Zetanor: start x?? meaning you are booting into command line or.....?? | 02:21 |
| Zetanor | Well when I boot with any kind of WM, if my ethernet cable isn't plugged in, the computer completely locks up | 02:23 |
| stlsaint | Zetanor: no that is not common, do you have some startup application that requires interenet or something? | 02:24 |
| Zetanor | It's a clean install. I've tried both Ubuntu and XUbuntu | 02:25 |
| stlsaint | Zetanor: what are the system specs? | 02:25 |
| Zetanor | stlsaint: Toshiba laptop with an E-350 cpu, Atheros AR8152 ethernet, Realtek RTL8188CE wlan card, an unidentified "HD Vision" graphics card | 02:29 |
| stlsaint | Zetanor: does wireless work | 02:30 |
| Zetanor | stlsaint: Haven't tried, give me a second | 02:32 |
| === bodhi_zazen is now known as Guest17997 | ||
| Zetanor | Well it works but it still crashes when I disconnect the ethernet cable, no matter what | 02:52 |
| stlsaint | Zetanor: so when you reboot the computer with the ethernet cable in it works but as soon as you remove the cable the system freezes? | 02:53 |
| Zetanor | It takes a short while. The disconnection notice appears and the freeze happens a few seconds later | 02:54 |
| stlsaint | that sounds more like faulty hardware | 02:54 |
| Zetanor | Could it be driver related? | 02:54 |
| Zetanor | The computer works perfectly well on Windows and Arch | 02:54 |
| stlsaint | Zetanor: possibly driver or even kernel, what version of ubuntu are you using? | 02:55 |
| Zetanor | I've tried 32 and 64 bit Ubuntu, version 11.04 | 02:56 |
| stlsaint | Zetanor: i would suggest giving 10.04 a shot as it is the latest lts, if it still doesnt work than the option to play around with drivers is there but could make things worse | 02:57 |
| Zetanor | stlsaint: What kind of worse are we talking about? | 02:59 |
| stlsaint | Zetanor: nothing fatal to the system, just the nic performance could be worse in the installed OS | 03:00 |
| Zetanor | stlsaint: Well I'm not familiar with Linux drivers at all so I'll do as you suggested and try the latest LTS version | 03:02 |
| Zetanor | Oh and thanks for your time! | 03:04 |
| stlsaint | Zetanor: no prob | 03:04 |
| philipballew | if i have mutiple computers on my network can i be logged into irc in all of them? | 05:21 |
| holstein | philipballew: nah | 05:22 |
| holstein | thats got nothing to do with the network though | 05:23 |
| holstein | you can if you have multiple nicks | 05:23 |
| holstein | i do that with screen | 05:23 |
| holstein | irssi in scree | 05:23 |
| holstein | n | 05:23 |
| philipballew | well i have philipballew and philipballew_ but people dont want that in the chanel probably | 05:23 |
| holstein | i can ssh into my server from multiple locations and connect | 05:24 |
| holstein | the terminal size can be a little odd, but do-able | 05:25 |
| philipballew | i set up ssh a few weeks ago. the shiz-niz it has become i must say holstein | 05:26 |
| philipballew | it is the cats meow maybe is a batter thing to say... | 05:27 |
| holstein | yeah, i started a few commandline only things as learning projects... irssi in screen was one of those. | 05:27 |
| philipballew | last cli learning project i did was aircrack-ng | 05:27 |
| philipballew | heard of it? | 05:28 |
| holstein | i have | 05:28 |
| holstein | we had a presentation at our LUG... a really good one on cracking WEP | 05:28 |
| holstein | a white hat kind of thing | 05:28 |
| philipballew | wep is so innsecure | 05:29 |
| philipballew | its crazy how easy i could find my password | 05:29 |
| holstein | i should change my WPA pass more often | 05:29 |
| philipballew | i need to buy a new router. here its currently the att modem+ router combo | 05:30 |
| holstein | im trying *not* to buy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162033 | 05:31 |
| holstein | i dont need it, but what a great deal | 05:31 |
| philipballew | i have a few routers with ddwrt but need to get a modem so i can hook them up | 05:32 |
| philipballew | it looks really powerful | 05:32 |
| philipballew | i need to get a pouter with a powerful antenna sometime. what kind do you have now? | 05:33 |
| holstein | an early n linksys | 05:34 |
| philipballew | mine is still g | 05:34 |
| philipballew | haha | 05:34 |
| holstein | eh, i only use the G anyways | 05:34 |
| philipballew | why is that? | 05:34 |
| holstein | its a wrt 150 or 160 n | 05:35 |
| holstein | i forget... | 05:35 |
| holstein | philipballew: i dont have any N adapters anywhere | 05:35 |
| philipballew | i bought a alfa a few months back | 05:35 |
| holstein | the n helps with the range i find though | 05:35 |
| philipballew | http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS051NH-802-11a-Wireless-9dBi/dp/B002BFO490 this is my new toy | 05:36 |
| holstein | interesting | 05:37 |
| holstein | does the job? | 05:37 |
| philipballew | yeah, it piicks up wifi for a few hundret feet | 05:40 |
| philipballew | *hundred | 05:40 |
| philipballew | then bought this http://www.buy.com/prod/trendnet-12dbi-outdoor-omni-directional-antenna-12-dbi-1-x-n-type/q/loc/101/207552271.html | 05:41 |
| philipballew | about 6 feet high. it was on sale and used, the one i bought | 05:41 |
| philipballew | i put it in my car, haha | 05:41 |
| holstein | lol... stay out of my neighborhood ;) | 05:42 |
| philipballew | haha, gives me something to do when i live in san diego | 05:43 |
| steve_____ | hello | 07:04 |
| steve_____ | can anyone help guide me in the right direction? | 07:04 |
| philipballew | steve_____, go for it | 07:04 |
| philipballew | i can try | 07:05 |
| steve_____ | I want to change a setting on my desktop - lets say the kickoff application launcher - then I want to make a copy that is distributable amongst friends and have the setting remain how it was in the new .iso | 07:05 |
| philipballew | so what you really wanna do is make a iso with your own few custom settings? | 07:06 |
| steve_____ | right! but I don't want any of the previous user settings to remain | 07:07 |
| steve_____ | I am using remastersys | 07:07 |
| steve_____ | I just don't know where to look | 07:07 |
| steve_____ | I feel like there is a script somewhere that has the defaults in it | 07:08 |
| steve_____ | and I just need to change the location of a png in that script | 07:08 |
| steve_____ | but I don't know where | 07:08 |
| philipballew | Remastersys should do it. what setting are you trying to change? | 07:08 |
| steve_____ | lets say the background and the kick start application icon | 07:09 |
| steve_____ | if I change them normally as a user | 07:09 |
| steve_____ | using the gui's | 07:09 |
| steve_____ | and then choose the "make distributable amongst friends option" it reverts to defaults | 07:09 |
| steve_____ | the problem is that if I make a full back up, it will include all of my user settings | 07:09 |
| steve_____ | and personal infomration | 07:09 |
| philipballew | Unit193, you see what this guy is saying? any ideas from your end? | 07:09 |
| philipballew | can you make a seperete install for this purpose? | 07:10 |
| steve_____ | philipballew: is that at me? | 07:10 |
| steve_____ | philipballew: I know it is possible, i just need to figure out where that default script is (if it exists) | 07:11 |
| philipballew | no, i was asking someone else for his opinion | 07:11 |
| steve_____ | philipballew: my bad | 07:12 |
| philipballew | remasterys probably has an irc channel as well | 07:12 |
| philipballew | lets try here first though | 07:12 |
| Unit193 | philipballew: Eh? How did I get into this? I was just about to go to sleep. | 07:12 |
| steve_____ | philipballew: lol | 07:12 |
| philipballew | then go to sleep Unit193 :) | 07:12 |
| * philipballew needs to find a better sleep scheadule | 07:12 | |
| Unit193 | philipballew: Almost sounds like he wants a custom ISO | 07:13 |
| philipballew | thats what i told him, i just figured you might have more knowlege on this then me. | 07:13 |
| philipballew | i was gonna give him i link on how to make one | 07:14 |
| steve_____ | hm... I want one using kde :) | 07:14 |
| philipballew | http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22145/how-to-create-your-own-customized-ubuntu-live-cd/ use this maybe, but for ubuntu | 07:15 |
| Unit193 | That would be Kubuntu (Or build your own) | 07:15 |
| philipballew | or kubuntu if you want kde | 07:15 |
| philipballew | www.kubuntu.org | 07:15 |
| steve_____ | kubuntu is actually causing all sorts of problems | 07:15 |
| steve_____ | lol | 07:15 |
| Omsniffiscent | Having major sound issues both in and out of wine. Mostly on VLC and my videogames through wine. I have no idea where to even start. | 07:16 |
| philipballew | the wine irc channel Omsniffiscent maybe | 07:16 |
| philipballew | we can here maybe to | 07:16 |
| philipballew | steve_____, try 10.04 | 07:16 |
| steve_____ | that is what I am trying right now :) | 07:17 |
| steve_____ | I just dled it | 07:17 |
| steve_____ | then deleted gnome | 07:17 |
| Omsniffiscent | Well as I was saying it's not just wine. | 07:17 |
| steve_____ | and installed kde | 07:17 |
| philipballew | i would recomend installing kubuntu fresh if it was me | 07:17 |
| philipballew | Omsniffiscent, what all is it? | 07:17 |
| Omsniffiscent | system sounds seem to be ok but VLC is just awful. Movie Player's sound is fine, though. | 07:18 |
| philipballew | bad install of vlc? | 07:18 |
| Unit193 | steve_____: Take a look here too (Not the easy way) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization | 07:19 |
| Omsniffiscent | Well it did work at one time. | 07:32 |
| philipballew | Omsniffiscent, maybe an update | 07:32 |
| Omsniffiscent | You think I have two separate sound issues? one with VLC and one with wine? | 07:32 |
| philipballew | makes more sence to me. | 07:32 |
| === tester is now known as bobweaver | ||
| kristian-work | hi all | 11:44 |
| kristian-work | holstein: you use weird methods now and then... ever tried installing anything on Compact Flash? | 11:44 |
| shadeslayer | hey, does anyone have the new macbook pro 8,2 model | 13:19 |
| holstein | shadeslayer: i saw one.... didnt get to play with it though | 13:39 |
| holstein | kristian-work: i have installed only to flash media like USB and SD cards, should be the same idea though | 13:40 |
| holstein | i can get you talking to someone who has a CF card in a netbook if you need | 13:40 |
| holstein | CF drive** | 13:40 |
| kristian-work | holstein: I have about a zillion i/o errors | 13:49 |
| kristian-work | this is in the adaptor | 13:49 |
| kristian-work | (as to "make it into" a 2.5 IDE hdd) | 13:50 |
| holstein | kristian-work: those things go bad | 13:54 |
| kristian-work | holstein: my plan so far is to test it in a Win box | 13:54 |
| kristian-work | they | 13:54 |
| kristian-work | 're new | 13:54 |
| holstein | if you have several brand new ones acting the same.... otherwise, even a new one could be bad | 13:55 |
| holstein | i had a blueray drive that i was sure was either bad, or not supported in linux | 13:55 |
| holstein | turned out to be something with the SATA controller card on my test/repair machine where i was trying it out | 13:56 |
| kristian-work | holstein: I have two boxen and several adapters... *nothing* works | 13:59 |
| kristian-work | but, I was being a bit rough with them, due to a misunderstanding of what I should do... I may have wrecked them | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | holstein: well ... i still have a couple of issues with mine, like the CD ROM isn't detected in kubuntu | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | except for wireless and the CD ROM everything is working | 14:40 |
| holstein | shadeslayer: i have an older one... maybe 1,2? | 14:41 |
| holstein | white one, not the macbook pro | 14:41 |
| holstein | i just gave up on it... it would run decent for about 4 or 5 days, then it would hard lock | 14:41 |
| holstein | that was ubuntu 10.04 | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | i'm on oneiric tho | 14:42 |
| holstein | i tried something live... maybe 10.10, and that seemed worse as far as hardware support | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, apparently you need to burn a CD as well as a USB drive, and then boot the CD, the cd doesn't boot and falls back to the USB which boots | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | funky stuff | 14:44 |
| holstein | eh... it was a free machine for me, so i bought snow leopard | 14:45 |
| holstein | it wont come up for me that often | 14:46 |
| kristian-work | gotta go, see ya | 15:01 |
| Mike_lb | Hi, I installed Lubuntu and selected the option to encrypt /home. As I understand, my /home is now encrypted with ecryptfs and I read that it encrypts the files but you could still read the filenames. So I booted from a live cd and tried to look at my /home but it's empty, why is it? | 15:28 |
| nlsthzn | Mike_lb: hey... I never encrypt so I may be wrong but I am assuming due to the fact that the live disc hasn't decrypted the partition is can't really read it (but I may be wrong) | 15:31 |
| Mike_lb | I'm not sure, but I think ecryptfs doesn't encrypt the partition, just each file | 15:34 |
| Mike_lb | so theorically you could boot from another distro and see those files encrypted | 15:34 |
| nlsthzn | ... guess we have to wait for someone more knowledgable ... :) | 15:35 |
| Sidewinder1 | Mike_lb, I've never used encryption but perhaps the "fs" in encryptfs stands for "file system" which might mean the entire filesystem? | 15:36 |
| Sidewinder1 | Just a WAG, on my part. :-) | 15:36 |
| Mike_lb | I will have to investigate more | 15:37 |
| Sidewinder1 | Mike_lb, You may wish to ask in #ubuntu. | 15:38 |
| Mike_lb | thanks | 15:38 |
| Sidewinder1 | NP | 15:39 |
| tester | I need help setting up iptables can you help ? | 18:52 |
| === tester is now known as bobweaver | ||
| nlsthzn | bobweaver: the closest I get to that is using ufw :p | 18:53 |
| bobweaver | thanks nlsthzn | 19:59 |
| nlsthzn | bobweaver: sorry I wasn't of more help :) | 19:59 |
| bobweaver | !iptables | 20:06 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE Lucid and Maverick) also exist. | 20:06 |
| holstein | bobweaver: what are you trying to accomplish? | 20:06 |
| holstein | maybe that'll help someone have an idea | 20:06 |
| stlsaint | oooooo iptables :D | 20:14 |
| kristian-aalborg | looks like I have to be a Win user in the near future :( | 20:41 |
| kristian-aalborg | can I run the thing virtually? | 20:41 |
| kristian-aalborg | not really install it... in a "garden" of sorts? | 20:41 |
| nlsthzn | kristian-aalborg: virtualbox | 20:42 |
| stlsaint | kristian-aalborg: what are you referring to? | 20:42 |
| kristian-aalborg | http://www.virtualbox.org/attachment/wiki/Screenshots/gnome.png | 20:42 |
| kristian-aalborg | nlsthzn, yes, that's what I was thinking | 20:43 |
| * nlsthzn loves Virtualbox | 20:43 | |
| kristian-aalborg | a more proper phrasing would be "will it work, or is it a toy/ developer thing"? | 20:43 |
| kristian-aalborg | what I will need is MS Office stuff... mainly .docs and perhaps the odd spreadsheet | 20:44 |
| stlsaint | kristian-aalborg: yea just run M$ in a vm | 20:44 |
| kristian-aalborg | and it should really, really, work... not "almost" or "practically" like Google Docs or OOffice | 20:44 |
| kristian-aalborg | stlsaint, I hope you're right | 20:44 |
| nlsthzn | when you run a OS in virtualbox it is really running :) | 20:45 |
| stlsaint | kristian-aalborg: i have never had a problem with it | 20:45 |
| kristian-aalborg | cool | 20:45 |
| kristian-aalborg | stlsaint, using it for the kind of stuff I'm talking about | 20:45 |
| nlsthzn | the OS thinks it is on a phusical machine | 20:45 |
| kristian-aalborg | perhaps I could have both XP and Win 7 | 20:45 |
| nlsthzn | *physical | 20:45 |
| kristian-aalborg | be some kind of OS Messiah | 20:45 |
| nlsthzn | with my distro hopping I have had a lot of different OS's on my one system at the same time :) (not all ruunning at once, my poor notebook can't handle that) | 20:47 |
| kristian-aalborg | this is fairly easy to do? | 20:49 |
| nlsthzn | Very very easy | 20:51 |
| nlsthzn | kristian-aalborg: everything is wizard driven | 20:51 |
| bioterror | with virtualbox you're not using real hardware | 20:51 |
| bioterror | just some generic stuff | 20:51 |
| nlsthzn | you choose what OS, how many ram to dedicate, how big the virtual harddrive should be... mount the ISO and boot the image... install and use | 20:51 |
| bioterror | it's not really the same as real computers | 20:52 |
| stlsaint | kristian-aalborg: for instance as to what bioterror was saying, you wont have a true video driver in virtualbox | 20:54 |
| stlsaint | kristian-aalborg: IE: You wont be running fedra with gnome=shell ;) | 20:54 |
| kristian-aalborg | that's okay... I only need it for the Office stuff | 20:57 |
| kristian-aalborg | and Skype, but that's a secret ;) | 20:57 |
| stlsaint | kristian-aalborg: you need windows for skype? | 20:58 |
| nlsthzn | yes you can run gnome shell | 20:58 |
| nlsthzn | Virtualbox 4.1.x works very well with Gnome-shell and AFAIK also Unity now... but I haven't tried unity... | 20:58 |
| kristian-aalborg | stlsaint, I was joking (more or less) | 20:58 |
| kristian-aalborg | I run Fluxbox | 20:59 |
| stlsaint | nlsthzn: oh sorry yea i was referring to the parallels beta testing when i tried fedora | 20:59 |
| nlsthzn | np :) | 20:59 |
| nlsthzn | don't expext to play games on Windows if you use VBox... | 20:59 |
| stlsaint | nlsthzn: i have not tried vbox yet (though i am downloading it now cause my parallels install expired :| ) | 20:59 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 20:59 |
| nlsthzn | VBox has become better and better with every release... | 21:00 |
| stlsaint | nlsthzn: i see | 21:00 |
| nlsthzn | I always install it... even if I don't plan on using it :) | 21:00 |
| stlsaint | nlsthzn: i usually do but then i got the parallels beta download, last time i went with vbox was back in the 3.x series lol | 21:00 |
| nlsthzn | I have found that most Linux distro's now don't even need the Guest addition add-ons to be installed for full screen etc. to work, and mouse integration means you don't need to capture the mouse or keyboard anymore... it is very cool... | 21:02 |
| stlsaint | nlsthzn: very nice, looks like im back on track with package manager development :D | 21:04 |
| stlsaint | W00t VBOX! | 21:05 |
| nlsthzn | It is nice, you like :) | 21:05 |
| stlsaint | still downloading....20 mins left | 21:05 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| nlsthzn | stlsaint: you are getting the latest version from the Virtualbox site correct? | 21:09 |
| stlsaint | nlsthzn: yes | 21:10 |
| nlsthzn | ah cool... just making sure... the Ubuntu PPA is always to far behind :) | 21:10 |
| stlsaint | i never go with vbox from repo | 21:10 |
| stlsaint | yea especially since im running 10.04 right now | 21:11 |
| nlsthzn | ouch... yes, that would have been a bad idea :) | 21:11 |
| kristian-aalborg | stlsaint, Lucid ftw ;) | 21:33 |
| stlsaint | kristian-aalborg: yes yes yes | 21:34 |
| * nlsthzn strokes his natty install... then again in a few hours he is replacing him with a Geeko again :p | 21:37 | |
| === thewrath is now known as thewrath009 | ||
| earthling_ | Anyone use mozplugger? | 23:04 |
| earthling_ | wonder if its lighter and more stable than Adobe acrobat plugin | 23:05 |
| philipballew | my desktop will not shut off. has anyone ever seen this? | 23:10 |
| nlsthzn | philipballew: maybe it has decided you haven't done enough work for the day | 23:14 |
| nlsthzn | philipballew: in terminal type sudo init 0 | 23:14 |
| nlsthzn | that should shut it down... or restart it... can't remember :p | 23:14 |
| philipballew | whats that gonna do? | 23:14 |
| * philipballew needs to remember terminal comands better | 23:15 | |
| * nlsthzn also | 23:15 | |
| philipballew | the few times it does shut down, it hangs on the good buy xubuntu screen | 23:15 |
| nlsthzn | philipballew: so this has happened before | 23:15 |
| philipballew | yes. its been happening since i installed 10.10 a few days ago | 23:16 |
| philipballew | 11.04 was freezing on me | 23:16 |
| nlsthzn | hmm... pretty sure there will be a log that can be checked ... curse me for not having the knowledge required :p | 23:16 |
| earthling_ | #$^%! you don't you have the knowledge required | 23:17 |
| earthling_ | :P | 23:17 |
| nlsthzn | earthling_: hehe, thanks (I think) | 23:18 |
| philipballew | nlsthzn, im gonna type sudo reboot and see what i get | 23:18 |
| nlsthzn | sure... I just always find it looks so much more leet going the init route :D | 23:18 |
| CLF1 | need a hand...my samba4 is broken and I can't repair it any ideas how I can work this out | 23:18 |
| ray_ | How do I cd into a directory that has a space or spaces in it's name? | 23:20 |
| === ray_ is now known as r4y | ||
| r4y | Why do I have to login to view the Ubuntu forums?, That stinks, O well. | 23:22 |
| nlsthzn | r4y: not sure... have you tried putting the directory in " " quotation marks? | 23:23 |
| earthling_ | I guess they want to reduce spam | 23:23 |
| r4y | I will try that out, but did find this link: | 23:24 |
| earthling_ | search is quicker with login, you don't have to answer questions about corn or ears heh | 23:24 |
| r4y | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=397977 | 23:24 |
| philipballew | sudo reboot works but clicking reboot does not | 23:25 |
| philipballew | ... odd | 23:25 |
| r4y | Thank you that double quotes worked. I see then single quotes is different, as single quotes opens instead | 23:25 |
| r4y | into the GUI that is | 23:26 |
| r4y | TY bye. | 23:26 |
| nlsthzn | cool | 23:26 |
| nlsthzn | philipballew: maybe give it a day or two just using the CLI to reboot/shutdown... just to reproduce the error... | 23:27 |
| philipballew | thats what was odd to me. no error was show. i could just look in my xorg logs | 23:28 |
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