=== stdin is now known as tsimpson [02:18] Howdy [02:18] So this is my first time running Ubuntu and the computer locks if I start X without a network connection [02:19] I'm assuming that it's not a common issue? [02:21] Zetanor: start x?? meaning you are booting into command line or.....?? [02:23] Well when I boot with any kind of WM, if my ethernet cable isn't plugged in, the computer completely locks up [02:24] Zetanor: no that is not common, do you have some startup application that requires interenet or something? [02:25] It's a clean install. I've tried both Ubuntu and XUbuntu [02:25] Zetanor: what are the system specs? [02:29] stlsaint: Toshiba laptop with an E-350 cpu, Atheros AR8152 ethernet, Realtek RTL8188CE wlan card, an unidentified "HD Vision" graphics card [02:30] Zetanor: does wireless work [02:32] stlsaint: Haven't tried, give me a second === bodhi_zazen is now known as Guest17997 [02:52] Well it works but it still crashes when I disconnect the ethernet cable, no matter what [02:53] Zetanor: so when you reboot the computer with the ethernet cable in it works but as soon as you remove the cable the system freezes? [02:54] It takes a short while. The disconnection notice appears and the freeze happens a few seconds later [02:54] that sounds more like faulty hardware [02:54] Could it be driver related? [02:54] The computer works perfectly well on Windows and Arch [02:55] Zetanor: possibly driver or even kernel, what version of ubuntu are you using? [02:56] I've tried 32 and 64 bit Ubuntu, version 11.04 [02:57] Zetanor: i would suggest giving 10.04 a shot as it is the latest lts, if it still doesnt work than the option to play around with drivers is there but could make things worse [02:59] stlsaint: What kind of worse are we talking about? [03:00] Zetanor: nothing fatal to the system, just the nic performance could be worse in the installed OS [03:02] stlsaint: Well I'm not familiar with Linux drivers at all so I'll do as you suggested and try the latest LTS version [03:04] Oh and thanks for your time! [03:04] Zetanor: no prob [05:21] if i have mutiple computers on my network can i be logged into irc in all of them? [05:22] philipballew: nah [05:23] thats got nothing to do with the network though [05:23] you can if you have multiple nicks [05:23] i do that with screen [05:23] irssi in scree [05:23] n [05:23] well i have philipballew and philipballew_ but people dont want that in the chanel probably [05:24] i can ssh into my server from multiple locations and connect [05:25] the terminal size can be a little odd, but do-able [05:26] i set up ssh a few weeks ago. the shiz-niz it has become i must say holstein [05:27] it is the cats meow maybe is a batter thing to say... [05:27] yeah, i started a few commandline only things as learning projects... irssi in screen was one of those. [05:27] last cli learning project i did was aircrack-ng [05:28] heard of it? [05:28] i have [05:28] we had a presentation at our LUG... a really good one on cracking WEP [05:28] a white hat kind of thing [05:29] wep is so innsecure [05:29] its crazy how easy i could find my password [05:29] i should change my WPA pass more often [05:30] i need to buy a new router. here its currently the att modem+ router combo [05:31] im trying *not* to buy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162033 [05:31] i dont need it, but what a great deal [05:32] i have a few routers with ddwrt but need to get a modem so i can hook them up [05:32] it looks really powerful [05:33] i need to get a pouter with a powerful antenna sometime. what kind do you have now? [05:34] an early n linksys [05:34] mine is still g [05:34] haha [05:34] eh, i only use the G anyways [05:34] why is that? [05:35] its a wrt 150 or 160 n [05:35] i forget... [05:35] philipballew: i dont have any N adapters anywhere [05:35] i bought a alfa a few months back [05:35] the n helps with the range i find though [05:36] http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS051NH-802-11a-Wireless-9dBi/dp/B002BFO490 this is my new toy [05:37] interesting [05:37] does the job? [05:40] yeah, it piicks up wifi for a few hundret feet [05:40] *hundred [05:41] then bought this http://www.buy.com/prod/trendnet-12dbi-outdoor-omni-directional-antenna-12-dbi-1-x-n-type/q/loc/101/207552271.html [05:41] about 6 feet high. it was on sale and used, the one i bought [05:41] i put it in my car, haha [05:42] lol... stay out of my neighborhood ;) [05:43] haha, gives me something to do when i live in san diego [07:04] hello [07:04] can anyone help guide me in the right direction? [07:04] steve_____, go for it [07:05] i can try [07:05] I want to change a setting on my desktop - lets say the kickoff application launcher - then I want to make a copy that is distributable amongst friends and have the setting remain how it was in the new .iso [07:06] so what you really wanna do is make a iso with your own few custom settings? [07:07] right! but I don't want any of the previous user settings to remain [07:07] I am using remastersys [07:07] I just don't know where to look [07:08] I feel like there is a script somewhere that has the defaults in it [07:08] and I just need to change the location of a png in that script [07:08] but I don't know where [07:08] Remastersys should do it. what setting are you trying to change? [07:09] lets say the background and the kick start application icon [07:09] if I change them normally as a user [07:09] using the gui's [07:09] and then choose the "make distributable amongst friends option" it reverts to defaults [07:09] the problem is that if I make a full back up, it will include all of my user settings [07:09] and personal infomration [07:09] Unit193, you see what this guy is saying? any ideas from your end? [07:10] can you make a seperete install for this purpose? [07:10] philipballew: is that at me? [07:11] philipballew: I know it is possible, i just need to figure out where that default script is (if it exists) [07:11] no, i was asking someone else for his opinion [07:12] philipballew: my bad [07:12] remasterys probably has an irc channel as well [07:12] lets try here first though [07:12] philipballew: Eh? How did I get into this? I was just about to go to sleep. [07:12] philipballew: lol [07:12] then go to sleep Unit193 :) [07:12] * philipballew needs to find a better sleep scheadule [07:13] philipballew: Almost sounds like he wants a custom ISO [07:13] thats what i told him, i just figured you might have more knowlege on this then me. [07:14] i was gonna give him i link on how to make one [07:14] hm... I want one using kde :) [07:15] http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22145/how-to-create-your-own-customized-ubuntu-live-cd/ use this maybe, but for ubuntu [07:15] That would be Kubuntu (Or build your own) [07:15] or kubuntu if you want kde [07:15] www.kubuntu.org [07:15] kubuntu is actually causing all sorts of problems [07:15] lol [07:16] Having major sound issues both in and out of wine. Mostly on VLC and my videogames through wine. I have no idea where to even start. [07:16] the wine irc channel Omsniffiscent maybe [07:16] we can here maybe to [07:16] steve_____, try 10.04 [07:17] that is what I am trying right now :) [07:17] I just dled it [07:17] then deleted gnome [07:17] Well as I was saying it's not just wine. [07:17] and installed kde [07:17] i would recomend installing kubuntu fresh if it was me [07:17] Omsniffiscent, what all is it? [07:18] system sounds seem to be ok but VLC is just awful. Movie Player's sound is fine, though. [07:18] bad install of vlc? [07:19] steve_____: Take a look here too (Not the easy way) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization [07:32] Well it did work at one time. [07:32] Omsniffiscent, maybe an update [07:32] You think I have two separate sound issues? one with VLC and one with wine? [07:32] makes more sence to me. === tester is now known as bobweaver [11:44] hi all [11:44] holstein: you use weird methods now and then... ever tried installing anything on Compact Flash? [13:19] hey, does anyone have the new macbook pro 8,2 model [13:39] shadeslayer: i saw one.... didnt get to play with it though [13:40] kristian-work: i have installed only to flash media like USB and SD cards, should be the same idea though [13:40] i can get you talking to someone who has a CF card in a netbook if you need [13:40] CF drive** [13:49] holstein: I have about a zillion i/o errors [13:49] this is in the adaptor [13:50] (as to "make it into" a 2.5 IDE hdd) [13:54] kristian-work: those things go bad [13:54] holstein: my plan so far is to test it in a Win box [13:54] they [13:54] 're new [13:55] if you have several brand new ones acting the same.... otherwise, even a new one could be bad [13:55] i had a blueray drive that i was sure was either bad, or not supported in linux [13:56] turned out to be something with the SATA controller card on my test/repair machine where i was trying it out [13:59] holstein: I have two boxen and several adapters... *nothing* works [14:00] but, I was being a bit rough with them, due to a misunderstanding of what I should do... I may have wrecked them [14:40] holstein: well ... i still have a couple of issues with mine, like the CD ROM isn't detected in kubuntu [14:40] except for wireless and the CD ROM everything is working [14:41] shadeslayer: i have an older one... maybe 1,2? [14:41] white one, not the macbook pro [14:41] i just gave up on it... it would run decent for about 4 or 5 days, then it would hard lock [14:41] that was ubuntu 10.04 [14:42] heh [14:42] i'm on oneiric tho [14:43] i tried something live... maybe 10.10, and that seemed worse as far as hardware support [14:44] yeah, apparently you need to burn a CD as well as a USB drive, and then boot the CD, the cd doesn't boot and falls back to the USB which boots [14:44] funky stuff [14:45] eh... it was a free machine for me, so i bought snow leopard [14:46] it wont come up for me that often [15:01] gotta go, see ya [15:28] Hi, I installed Lubuntu and selected the option to encrypt /home. As I understand, my /home is now encrypted with ecryptfs and I read that it encrypts the files but you could still read the filenames. So I booted from a live cd and tried to look at my /home but it's empty, why is it? [15:31] Mike_lb: hey... I never encrypt so I may be wrong but I am assuming due to the fact that the live disc hasn't decrypted the partition is can't really read it (but I may be wrong) [15:34] I'm not sure, but I think ecryptfs doesn't encrypt the partition, just each file [15:34] so theorically you could boot from another distro and see those files encrypted [15:35] ... guess we have to wait for someone more knowledgable ... :) [15:36] Mike_lb, I've never used encryption but perhaps the "fs" in encryptfs stands for "file system" which might mean the entire filesystem? [15:36] Just a WAG, on my part. :-) [15:37] I will have to investigate more [15:38] Mike_lb, You may wish to ask in #ubuntu. [15:38] thanks [15:39] NP [18:52] I need help setting up iptables can you help ? === tester is now known as bobweaver [18:53] bobweaver: the closest I get to that is using ufw :p [19:59] thanks nlsthzn [19:59] bobweaver: sorry I wasn't of more help :) [20:06] !iptables [20:06] Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE Lucid and Maverick) also exist. [20:06] bobweaver: what are you trying to accomplish? [20:06] maybe that'll help someone have an idea [20:14] oooooo iptables :D [20:41] looks like I have to be a Win user in the near future :( [20:41] can I run the thing virtually? [20:41] not really install it... in a "garden" of sorts? [20:42] kristian-aalborg: virtualbox [20:42] kristian-aalborg: what are you referring to? [20:42] http://www.virtualbox.org/attachment/wiki/Screenshots/gnome.png [20:43] nlsthzn, yes, that's what I was thinking [20:43] * nlsthzn loves Virtualbox [20:43] a more proper phrasing would be "will it work, or is it a toy/ developer thing"? [20:44] what I will need is MS Office stuff... mainly .docs and perhaps the odd spreadsheet [20:44] kristian-aalborg: yea just run M$ in a vm [20:44] and it should really, really, work... not "almost" or "practically" like Google Docs or OOffice [20:44] stlsaint, I hope you're right [20:45] when you run a OS in virtualbox it is really running :) [20:45] kristian-aalborg: i have never had a problem with it [20:45] cool [20:45] stlsaint, using it for the kind of stuff I'm talking about [20:45] the OS thinks it is on a phusical machine [20:45] perhaps I could have both XP and Win 7 [20:45] *physical [20:45] be some kind of OS Messiah [20:47] with my distro hopping I have had a lot of different OS's on my one system at the same time :) (not all ruunning at once, my poor notebook can't handle that) [20:49] this is fairly easy to do? [20:51] Very very easy [20:51] kristian-aalborg: everything is wizard driven [20:51] with virtualbox you're not using real hardware [20:51] just some generic stuff [20:51] you choose what OS, how many ram to dedicate, how big the virtual harddrive should be... mount the ISO and boot the image... install and use [20:52] it's not really the same as real computers [20:54] kristian-aalborg: for instance as to what bioterror was saying, you wont have a true video driver in virtualbox [20:54] kristian-aalborg: IE: You wont be running fedra with gnome=shell ;) [20:57] that's okay... I only need it for the Office stuff [20:57] and Skype, but that's a secret ;) [20:58] kristian-aalborg: you need windows for skype? [20:58] yes you can run gnome shell [20:58] Virtualbox 4.1.x works very well with Gnome-shell and AFAIK also Unity now... but I haven't tried unity... [20:58] stlsaint, I was joking (more or less) [20:59] I run Fluxbox [20:59] nlsthzn: oh sorry yea i was referring to the parallels beta testing when i tried fedora [20:59] np :) [20:59] don't expext to play games on Windows if you use VBox... [20:59] nlsthzn: i have not tried vbox yet (though i am downloading it now cause my parallels install expired :| ) [20:59] :) [21:00] VBox has become better and better with every release... [21:00] nlsthzn: i see [21:00] I always install it... even if I don't plan on using it :) [21:00] nlsthzn: i usually do but then i got the parallels beta download, last time i went with vbox was back in the 3.x series lol [21:02] I have found that most Linux distro's now don't even need the Guest addition add-ons to be installed for full screen etc. to work, and mouse integration means you don't need to capture the mouse or keyboard anymore... it is very cool... [21:04] nlsthzn: very nice, looks like im back on track with package manager development :D [21:05] W00t VBOX! [21:05] It is nice, you like :) [21:05] still downloading....20 mins left === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:09] stlsaint: you are getting the latest version from the Virtualbox site correct? [21:10] nlsthzn: yes [21:10] ah cool... just making sure... the Ubuntu PPA is always to far behind :) [21:10] i never go with vbox from repo [21:11] yea especially since im running 10.04 right now [21:11] ouch... yes, that would have been a bad idea :) [21:33] stlsaint, Lucid ftw ;) [21:34] kristian-aalborg: yes yes yes [21:37] * nlsthzn strokes his natty install... then again in a few hours he is replacing him with a Geeko again :p === thewrath is now known as thewrath009 [23:04] Anyone use mozplugger? [23:05] wonder if its lighter and more stable than Adobe acrobat plugin [23:10] my desktop will not shut off. has anyone ever seen this? [23:14] philipballew: maybe it has decided you haven't done enough work for the day [23:14] philipballew: in terminal type sudo init 0 [23:14] that should shut it down... or restart it... can't remember :p [23:14] whats that gonna do? [23:15] * philipballew needs to remember terminal comands better [23:15] * nlsthzn also [23:15] the few times it does shut down, it hangs on the good buy xubuntu screen [23:15] philipballew: so this has happened before [23:16] yes. its been happening since i installed 10.10 a few days ago [23:16] 11.04 was freezing on me [23:16] hmm... pretty sure there will be a log that can be checked ... curse me for not having the knowledge required :p [23:17] #$^%! you don't you have the knowledge required [23:17] :P [23:18] earthling_: hehe, thanks (I think) [23:18] nlsthzn, im gonna type sudo reboot and see what i get [23:18] sure... I just always find it looks so much more leet going the init route :D [23:18] need a hand...my samba4 is broken and I can't repair it any ideas how I can work this out [23:20] How do I cd into a directory that has a space or spaces in it's name? === ray_ is now known as r4y [23:22] Why do I have to login to view the Ubuntu forums?, That stinks, O well. [23:23] r4y: not sure... have you tried putting the directory in " " quotation marks? [23:23] I guess they want to reduce spam [23:24] I will try that out, but did find this link: [23:24] search is quicker with login, you don't have to answer questions about corn or ears heh [23:24] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=397977 [23:25] sudo reboot works but clicking reboot does not [23:25] ... odd [23:25] Thank you that double quotes worked. I see then single quotes is different, as single quotes opens instead [23:26] into the GUI that is [23:26] TY bye. [23:26] cool [23:27] philipballew: maybe give it a day or two just using the CLI to reboot/shutdown... just to reproduce the error... [23:28] thats what was odd to me. no error was show. i could just look in my xorg logs