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AlanBellmorning all06:20
BigRedSpopey: haha, just as I silenced my alarm my laptop beeped at me... :)06:27
dauberslo06:28
BigRedSgood morning!06:28
* daubers is almost ready for a train ride to londered06:29
dauberssammiches made06:58
popeyAlanBell: change of plan!07:24
popeyAlanBell: I wont need picking up07:24
BigRedSaw man. This is going to be dead today :(07:36
popeythis irc channel?07:37
* popey sends AlanBell a text07:38
BigRedSpopey: yeah07:38
BigRedSsince you'll all be off at the museum07:38
popeyheh, it will be quiet07:38
popeyunless people at the museum somehow ssh in :D07:38
BigRedSthat would be amusing. walking round in complete silence, talking to each other over IRC instead07:39
popeyheh07:39
* popey goes to make breakfast07:41
ali1234how do i get android to show my phone number?07:55
BigRedSit's buried in the settings IIRC07:58
BigRedSali1234: menu, settings, about phone, network07:58
BigRedSon mine07:58
BigRedSer, no, phone identity rather than network07:58
ali1234settings -> about phone -> status on 2.307:59
AlanBellpopey: ok, won't pick you up07:59
AlanBelldidn't get a text though07:59
popeyfaster to dial another phone ali1234 :D07:59
popeyAlanBell: did you change number when you got a new phone?07:59
ali1234but i don't have another phone07:59
popeyif so I dont have your number07:59
popeyah07:59
AlanBell07738 78919008:00
ali1234well i do but i only have 1 sim card08:00
ali1234so, if i put my phone number in my google+ profile, and share it with a certain circle, do people in that circle who have android see it on their phone?08:02
ali1234cos the good thing about android is it gets all my contacts... but the bad thing is nobody shares their phone number on their public profile for obvious reasons08:05
ali1234so i just get a bunch of contacts with no phone numbers08:06
ali1234but circles might solve that problem08:06
ali1234i hope some day we can put circles inside other circles08:07
AlanBellcircles in circles feature is landing next week or thereabouts I think08:09
ali1234awesome08:09
ubuntuuk-planet[Tony] Falling for the Stars - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/07/24/falling-for-the-stars/08:14
ali1234so i don't want to start an argument or anything08:31
ali1234but isn't the oracle vs google thing exactly what the anti-mono crowd fear will happen with mono, except played out with java?08:31
ali1234and what's to stop oracle from buying microsoft and then starting suing everyone who uses mono?08:31
popeyisnt there a no-sue agreement Microsoft has?08:32
popeyI guess in your scenario oracle could revoke that?08:32
BigRedSyeah, that was part of the point ISTR08:32
ali1234so oracle says "sorry, your agreement is with microsoft, not us"08:32
ali1234"lawsuit"08:32
* popey shrugs08:32
ali1234so i heard there was a email client with a plugin that makes it like gmail09:00
ali1234but i can't remember if it was evolution or thunderbird09:01
BigRedSthunderbird I think09:03
ali1234time to try it out i guess09:05
ali1234it can't be worse than evo09:05
BigRedShaha, I don't think there's much that's worse than evo09:05
ali1234for me the best thing about gmail is not the way it draws the conversation but the way it intelligently threads things09:07
ali1234evolution doesn't seem to be able to thread email at all09:07
ali1234tbird actually understands how to set up a gmail account automatically unlike evolution...09:15
BigRedSYeah, and tbird sort-of works with Gmail's odd idea of folders09:18
ali1234it doesn't work properly with unity launcher though09:22
* BigRedS feigns surprise09:22
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brobostigonmorning everyone.10:21
marxjohnsoney up10:24
brobostigonmorning marxjohnson10:25
BigRedSg'morning brobostigon & marxjohnson10:26
brobostigonmorning BigRedS10:28
BigRedSG'morning! How's things?10:30
brobostigonBigRedS: not bad, just trying to fix some (libmozjs, dbus, gnome-settings) segfaults. and you?10:34
BigRedSyeah, pretty good really. Getting lots of long-standing things done which is nice. But stuff keeps moving around my workspaces for some reason :(10:35
brobostigon:(10:36
BigRedSI think it's just fat-finger syndrome10:38
brobostigonok.10:38
* suprengr is jealous... sitting here on standby. not a good swap for a geeknik :(11:25
BigRedSha, yeah. I'm sat in a noc waiting for stuff to go wrong11:26
brobostigonBigRedS: maybe do some maintenence, to keep you mind from seizing up.11:27
BigRedSyeah, that's what I'm doing. Scripting maintenancey things11:28
brobostigon:)11:28
BigRedSAll those 'I'll write that at some point' scripts that I've been building up for the past, er, ages11:28
brobostigonok.11:28
BigRedSthough I can't help but think that if things aren't breaking we're probably doing maintenance pretty good already :)11:28
brobostigonyes :)11:29
* suprengr sends BigRedS virtual "something gone wrong" to stop boredom11:29
BigRedShaha11:29
BigRedSI did get to the point earlier where I 'broke' something to check the monitoring was working11:30
brobostigonlol11:30
suprengr+111:30
suprengrha! F1 on TV... that'll do *very* nicely11:31
BigRedSpft. I'm waiting for the motoGP :)11:31
brobostigon:)11:32
BigRedSwatch the motogp 10-11pm ish, then at midnight I get to ride home. On empty roads :)11:32
* suprengr hums "2 wheels on my wagon"11:32
BigRedShaha11:32
suprengr[remembering good ol' motorbike days - but kneecaps can take only so much injuring]11:34
BigRedSah yeah. There's far too many people who used to ride bikes but kept breaking themselves...11:35
brobostigonis charliebear.mooo.com working, someone just told me it wasnt.11:35
issyl0Sorry to be missing the geeknic today, but to be honest I think I'd disappear into Platform 9 3/4 anyway.11:35
BigRedSbrobostigon: is for me11:35
issyl0(Such is my Harry Potter obsession.)11:35
BigRedSissyl0: nah, this is where all the cool kids are anyway :)11:36
brobostigonBigRedS: good, thank you, that means there is somethig wrong with the person who tried it.11:36
issyl0:P11:36
BigRedSbrobostigon: yeah, it's generally user error :)11:36
brobostigonBigRedS: i gave a full irl aswell, http://charliebear*11:36
brobostigonurl*11:36
suprengrPEBWAK [problem exist between *wall* and keyboard]11:37
BigRedShaha11:37
brobostigonBigRedS: could the issue have been that they were so slow with it loading, they thought it didnt work?11:38
BigRedSbrobostigon: it's possible, it took a few (~4) seconds for me11:38
BigRedSseemed to be a few redirects to follow11:38
brobostigonBigRedS: that is still within reasonable limits.11:39
brobostigonBigRedS: only one redirect, from that url, to my vps's.11:39
BigRedSah, fair enough. odd media on other servers perhaps? The stauts bar showed a few different domains11:40
brobostigonBigRedS: hmm, interesting.11:40
BigRedSthough I can't get it to do it again now11:40
BigRedSmaybe I imagined it11:40
* BigRedS looks suspiciously at his coffee11:40
brobostigonok.11:40
brobostigonweird.11:40
brobostigonBigRedS: i saw no errors within apache's logs. so it must be user error. or maybe ipv4/ipv6 clash on users end.11:45
* suprengr notes some of those at geeknik are actually here on IRC... whasup folks.. too many laptops & not enough muffins :D11:52
penguin42what we need is a muffin transport over irc11:53
suprengrdefinitely +111:53
brobostigonsuprengr: some might simply have screen + irssi on servers, and arent actually connected to them.11:54
BigRedSyeah, I never log out of IRC11:54
BigRedSbut I do sleep sometimes, and occasionally I go outside, too :)11:54
brobostigon:)11:55
suprengr...yeh but *some* [cough] were only a few mins ago "away"... that wall at 9 3/4 is more active than suspected11:56
BigRedSahh11:56
BigRedSwell, it's nice of them to try to include us, too :)11:56
suprengryeh... gotta nice warm cudley feeling now ;)11:57
suprengr..but no muffins!11:57
* BigRedS had muffins11:58
BigRedSbut I ate them. That was what they were for, in my defnece11:58
suprengrBigRedS, thankyou for not saying "has" muffins11:58
BigRedSoh, but they were the breakfasty sort, too, not cakey ones :(11:59
penguin42talking of breakfast.....12:01
gordits 1pm :P officially brunch12:01
* suprengr sets status on Pidgin to "Watching F1"... why is there no option on Xchat to do same?12:03
BigRedSsuprengr: /away [what you want your status to be]12:06
BigRedSso /away watching the f112:07
BigRedSwould do that in xchat12:07
suprengri *know* that... but not so much fun as a separate status ;)12:07
czajkows1ihmm12:08
BigRedSahh12:08
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suprengrlike "Watching MotoGP" for BigRedS - complete with a different 'grey out' colour  [giggles]12:10
* BigRedS _really_ wishes 'ls' was analogous to 'show tables' in mysql12:11
oracologyBigRedS: yeah ls really should be...i agree.12:25
czajkowskihmm13:26
brobostigonhello czajkowski13:27
czajkowskirrslly want to unsuscribe from thr ml13:27
* BigRedS wonders if czajkowski is drunk13:28
brobostigonpimms ?13:28
BigRedSdon't mind if I do!13:28
BigRedScheers!13:28
brobostigonBigRedS: i curious as to if czajkowski was drunk as you sugegsted, if she had been drinking that or not?13:29
czajkowskinooo phone13:30
brobostigon:(13:30
suprengryup - BigRedS was right ;)13:50
* suprengr cowers in corner awaiting wrath13:50
brobostigonhttp://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/112437 any ideas as  to this error i am getting from wine. please.14:42
gordbrobostigon, i couldn't get KSP to run in wine either =\14:43
brobostigongord: same error ?14:43
gordcan't remember, but i gave up and ran it in windows14:43
brobostigonohwell, thanks.14:44
* brobostigon doesnt have windows, so gives up.14:44
dwatkinsWhat is KSP?14:45
brobostigondwatkins: it is a game, where you build a space program.14:45
dwatkinsOh that, yeah :)14:46
brobostigonhttp://kerbalspaceprogram.com/about.php14:46
dwatkinsI was saddened to learn there is no linux nor Mac version.14:46
gordi nearly managed a stable orbit yesterday. so close14:46
dwatkinsI'll have to wait until I can bootcamp.14:46
BigRedSoh I was looking at that the other day. But didn't get as far as attempting an install14:54
suprengroooh.. reminds me - I have downloaded Proun. Any advice re needs when installing in Wine?15:01
gordcheck wine hq first15:02
suprengrgord, k15:02
suprengrthanks15:02
popeyit works fine in wine15:06
popeyI am running it here at 1920x1080 using wine in natty15:06
suprengrthank gawd for that... wine hq has nowt15:07
suprengrcheers popey15:07
dauberslo15:46
daubersle sigh15:56
DJonesAfternoon daubers15:56
daubersSomeone needs to make something that makes an arm poke out of a machine and slap people15:57
daubersQuiet this afternoon isn't it16:04
gordto.. warm... to type16:06
* daubers throws a bucket of water over gord16:06
moreatipopey: Do you still have a wifi problem for OggCamp? Do you need any wifi routers?16:07
AlanBellafternoon all16:52
penguin42it is16:52
AlanBellso the geeknic and Science Fiction exhibition was great fun today17:35
AlanBellnice family friendly day out17:35
popeysorry I couldn't make it17:35
AlanBellbut I was a bit disapointed at the low turnout17:35
AlanBelltotally not pointing fingers at people who couldn't make it, not my point17:35
AlanBellwhat sort of events should we do that people will turn up to?17:35
AlanBellshould we make things *less* family friendly?17:36
BigRedSmoar pub!17:36
AlanBellI don't quite understand why nobody who works at Millbank thought it would be a nice event to pop along to17:36
AlanBellLondon is I assume a fairly reasonable place for people to get to, trains go there17:37
AlanBellMartijnVdS got a train from the Netherlands to come to this event17:37
BigRedSwow17:38
BigRedSthough most of Belgium is easier to get to from London than much of the north of England17:38
BigRedSby train17:38
AlanBellso we could do more "drink after work in the west end" type things17:38
AlanBellor stuff out in the countryside17:39
AlanBellor a meetup in a starbucks some afternoon during the week17:39
BigRedSPersonally, I'd like stuff at the weekend and in London, 'cause I'm normally in london at the weekend. I just couldn't do *this* one.17:39
suprengr...yeh - try getting to an 'event' when they sack a colleague and expect you to cover for him :(17:39
suprengrsooo much annoyed at firm!17:40
AlanBellindeed, totally not pointing fingers17:40
suprengr[no finger pointing taken]17:40
suprengr:D17:40
AlanBelljust want to know if we are doing something awkward for people17:40
AlanBellthere were 9 people today17:41
BigRedSWell, it was close to ideal for me17:41
AlanBellincluding smartphone loving toddlers17:41
czajkowskiAlanBell: still 9 is more than 117:41
czajkowskiand we had a nice day out17:41
czajkowskiso all in all it was a good fun17:41
AlanBellwe did have a nice day out17:41
czajkowskibar we forgot to take pics ;(17:41
AlanBelland we went home via tower bridge and westminster bridge17:41
AlanBellthere are some pics17:42
no_name_brandHey guys, is it okay for me to ask a question here?17:42
suprengr...see =-  told you czajkowski  was tipsie!17:42
AlanBellno_name_brand: sure, ask away17:42
* suprengr ...cowers17:42
no_name_brandAlanBell: I was wondering if there's a Python library available that would let me read/write to virtual memory (RAM) on Ubuntu? Kind of like cytpes kernel32 wrappers for Windows.17:43
czajkowskisuprengr: no I wasnt!17:43
suprengrczajkowski, ;017:44
AlanBellno_name_brand: read and write what sort of stuff?17:46
AlanBellmost python stuff is cross platform17:46
no_name_brandAlanBell: I'd like to read/modify data at certain virtual memory addresses.17:46
no_name_brandThat's true, but ctypes' kernel32 wrapper is specifically for providing interaction between Windows dlls and Python.17:47
AlanBellthat sounds like something a bit dangerous to do!17:51
penguin42no_name_brand: When you say 'virtual memory' what do you actually mean?17:51
AlanBelldo you want to go poking about into the address space of other processes?17:51
penguin42no_name_brand: The address space of your current process or others?17:51
no_name_brandAlanBell, penguin42 : yes, the address space of processes.17:52
penguin42no_name_brand: The ptrace system call lets you do that, or you could script gdb!17:53
AlanBellI see crashes ahead. . . but while there's moonlight and music . . .17:53
no_name_brandpenguin42: I'm not sure how scripting gdb could help me? Could you point me to something on that?17:55
penguin42no_name_brand: gdb can attach to an arbitrary process and access it's memory - it uses ptrace to do it17:55
penguin42no_name_brand: But please go back and explain what you're actually trying to do17:56
daubersAlanBell: We could always arrange some kind of location rotating meetup17:58
no_name_brandpenguin42: ahh! So by the way, when I'm googling/discussing this stuff, I shouldn't use terms like "virtual memory" but more like "accessing address space"? What I'm trying to do is this: I have a program which uses my RAM to store certain pieces of data as it's working - I'd like to see what it's storing on RAM, search for specific values of data (and their corresponding addresses), and then choose to modify them if I'd lik17:58
no_name_brandI used to do this a lot for cheating in games on Windows, but right now I'm doing it for work - someone has written a closed source program that I can't easily tie into :p17:59
no_name_brandSo I'm sort of familiar with what I'd do on Windows, but not on linux.17:59
AlanBellyeah, virtual memory is more what we would call swap space18:00
AlanBellDMA perhaps18:00
czajkowskino_name_brand: you might find more help tbh in a #python channel if it's python related tbh18:00
penguin42no_name_brand: So if it's the address space of one process then just use gdb to do that - it's scriptable in python18:00
czajkowskint trying to put you off being here18:00
AlanBelldirect memory access, memory mapped files, address space, peek and poke would all be terms to try18:00
czajkowskibut there would be a lot more python ddevelopers there to help you18:01
czajkowskidaubers: aye some of the lug folks meet up on a Thursday evening for drinks18:01
no_name_brandpenguin42: Great! I'll look into that then!18:01
no_name_brandczajkowski: Well, yeah, penguin42 pretty much answered my question though, so no worries.18:01
czajkowskidaubers: we all know to poke each other on the thursday morning to pick the pub later that event18:01
czajkowskino_name_brand: no worries18:01
moreatino_name_brand: you can find a lot of info about a process in /prc/<pid>, including aa complete in memory image. No ide if you can write to it though18:02
AlanBellso a weekday evening pub night might work18:02
daubersI could probably do one of those a month, location depending :)18:03
czajkowskiaye sure we can give it a go18:03
czajkowskicant hurt to try18:03
AlanBellyup18:03
AlanBellso lets try that for a few months18:04
czajkowskiideally a place that has reasonable priced food close to decent transportation and oddly enough free wifi works well18:04
AlanBellin London, or maybe rotating round the M25? or further out?18:05
daubersAlanBell: I'd do one in London and one outside somewhere18:05
daubersThen rotate thatway and maybe rotate the somewhere18:06
czajkowskiwell August is going to be busy18:06
AlanBelldo we care about trains or is parking a bigger deal?18:06
czajkowskimaybe late august18:06
czajkowskithe idea being to keep the events regular so people can make one and skip the next or vice versa18:06
daubersMaybe do something like Basingstoke/London/Reading/London/Oxford/London or somesuch18:07
AlanBellthat sounds good18:07
AlanBellWoking would work too18:07
daubersGet less "Things never happen near me" complaints that way :)18:07
AlanBellas a train hub18:07
daubersyup18:08
BigRedSdon't train places normally also have parking?18:08
AlanBellwhat other train hubs are there?18:08
* BigRedS rides a motorbike, I've never been that interested in either...18:08
czajkowskiguilford18:08
AlanBellBigRedS: town centre pubs sometimes don't have car parks18:09
AlanBellor anywhere I would want to park my car18:09
daubersBristol?18:09
BigRedSyeah, I figured the stations were likely to18:09
daubersSwindon18:09
AlanBellBigRedS: ah, see what you mean18:09
AzelphurAnyone happen to know if there's a python library for easy access to all the microblogging services? eg twitter, identi.ca, so on so fourth.18:09
AlanBellAzelphur: is there a libgwibber or scriptable bit of it perhaps?18:10
AlanBell!info libgwibber18:10
lubotu3Package libgwibber does not exist in natty18:10
AlanBellhttps://launchpad.net/gwibber/libgwibber18:11
AzelphurAlanBell: not sure what language gwibber is written in tbh :P18:11
BigRedSpython18:11
Azelphuroh fun18:11
BigRedSeverything's written in python these days; it's the new C18:11
BigRedSexcept the cool things. Those are written in Perl18:11
AlanBellit is the new BASIC actually18:11
BigRedShaha, yeah18:12
* Azelphur looks around to try and figure out how it works18:12
AlanBellbut you don't have to  be embarrassed about it18:12
BigRedSit's Linux' VB but actually a good programming language18:12
AzelphurIndeed, Python is awesome now :)18:13
Azelphurthere isn't a lot you can't do with it18:13
suprengrI have had some [small] experience in Perl scripting... is Pyhton actually close enough to be recognisable?18:21
Azelphurlol if there is a library for python, it's not documented anywhere18:21
suprengr*Python18:21
BigRedSsuprengr: lots of perly people find Python abhorrent for a while and then learn to love it18:24
BigRedSI remain unconvinced, but I *like* line-noise and braces :)18:24
suprengrthat's what I call an honest answer - thanks18:25
* Azelphur hugs python18:26
* suprengr hugs Azelphur ... & [I bet] worries Azelphur 18:26
* BigRedS tries to hug CPAN but it's just too big18:27
AzelphurxD18:27
suprengr;D18:27
Azelphurthat said I do wish I could figure out what on earth is going on with gwibber. :(18:27
suprengr...& no I'm not!18:27
AzelphurI want to write shiny things :(18:27
BigRedSI've spent most of today knee-deep in a module. It's not very good for a getting-to-the-end-and-seeing-what-you-achieved sort of buzz :(18:29
suprengrAzelphur, you mean http://tinyurl.com/3sdxldb ?18:33
Azelphursuprengr: I mean with regards to libgwibber :P18:34
suprengroh18:34
MartijnVdSo/ everone :-)18:37
* suprengr reckons Azelphur is now checking out Gwibber 3.1 ;)18:38
* Azelphur is talking to the folks in #gwibber and found out it has a dbus interface which does what I want18:38
Azelphur:P18:38
suprengro/ MartijnVdS18:38
AlanBello/ MartijnVdS great to see you today18:39
MartijnVdSalanbell: did the kids ever end up trying the spread? :-)18:42
AlanBellthey did, and they like it18:42
AlanBelllittle boy will try it tomorrow18:43
dauberso/18:43
daubersMartijnVdS: Was excellent to put a face to a name18:43
daubersAlanBell, MartijnVd, czajkowski http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdaubney/5971292906/in/photostream :)18:52
czajkowskidaubers: :)18:54
daubersNot taken the ones off my phone yet18:57
suprengrSo there I am - logged into Launchpad... can I find a way to create Wiki page - nah!18:59
czajkowskisuprengr: are you on wiki.ubuntu.com by any chance19:00
suprengrczajkowski, in launchpad homepage for self (https://launchpad.net/~suprengr). looked in wiki.ubuntu.com  tna19:03
AlanBellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/suprengr19:03
AlanBellsee the "create new empty page" link19:03
czajkowskisuprengr: yes but you dont create a wiki page on lp......19:04
suprengrAlanBell, cheers19:04
czajkowskisuprengr: yes but you dont create a wiki page on lp......19:04
suprengr[I was confused simply because there used to be in launchpad... now gone]19:05
suprengr*a link in...19:05
czajkowskiwhy are you speaking in [ ]  brackets19:05
AlanBell{braces are more fun}19:05
suprengr[because sometimes that's how how I like to]  :D19:06
suprengr{}19:06
czajkowskisuprengr: were you on irc about a year ago with a different nick with john in it19:06
suprengrczajkowski, most definitely not guiltyt... no19:07
czajkowskiok19:07
suprengrunless, of course, this 'john' has a £1.000.000 waiting to be collected!19:09
suprengrjust went to  "create new empty page" on Ubuntu Wiki & got: "You are not allowed to edit this page. " Now that's what I call an insult!19:16
AlanBellare you logged into the wiki?19:17
suprengrAlanBell, i *was* but it seems to be acting as if I'm not... time to close browser & start again methinks...19:19
suprengryea gads that was a fight!  got there at last - it put put up a fight but suprengr  won in the end - on wiki page ready to edit ... hardly seems worth the effort after that!19:32
justinBUJITSUBROhello from belize i am havaing a real problem ( ihave an infantile understanding of ubuntu) i hope somone can help19:38
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:39
justinBUJITSUBROanyone recocnize this i ched foroms but i didnot understand them19:39
daubersjustinBUJITSUBRO: can you pastebin the entire output please?19:40
daubers!pastebin19:40
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errordeveloperjustinBUJITSUBRO: certainly that's a problem with you network connection set-up19:41
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justinBUJITSUBROy is not available: NO_PUBKEY D0AFF96872D340A3Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:41
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:41
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (34.52.53.34). - connect (110: Connection timed out)19:41
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:41
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:41
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:41
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:41
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
Azelphur!pastebin | justinBUJITSUBRO19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
lubotu3justinBUJITSUBRO: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
Azelphurlol19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
czajkowskitoodles/msg chanserv op #ubuntu-uk19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:42
czajkowskigrrrrr19:42
Azelphurdon't think a kick was required for that, was just user error :)19:42
Azelphur+b for 10 seconds would have fixed it :p19:43
czajkowskiAzelphur: couldnt stop him pasting19:43
czajkowskiAzelphur: well i'm kinda in the middle of my dinner19:43
Azelphur*shrug*19:43
czajkowskiand nobody else around19:43
czajkowskiless lecturing :)19:43
czajkowskithanks19:43
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/main/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/universe/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
czajkowskijustinBUJITSUBRO: will you stop s[pamming please19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
czajkowskijustinBUJITSUBRO: stop it19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
errordeveloperjustinBUJITSUBRO: dude, stop flooding the channel!19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
suprengrgo for it czajkowski19:44
czajkowskiAzelphur: still happy19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
Azelphur+b is still all that's required19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/main/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:44
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/universe/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:45
Azelphurthe only reason it's continuing is because of sendq :)19:45
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:45
DJonesczajkowski: Set a quiet19:45
czajkowskijustinBUJITSUBRO: will you pelase stop it19:45
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:45
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)19:45
czajkowskijustinBUJITSUBRO: please stop pasting that19:45
czajkowskiit's not helpful19:45
czajkowskiand you are spamming the channel19:45
czajkowskijustinBUJITSUBRO: I shall unmute the channel, please do not paste that again19:45
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to connect to packages.freecontrib.org:http:19:46
Azelphurczajkowski: he isn't actually doing anything, this is basic IRC stuff, when you send a large paste, the IRC network slows it right down as a flood limitation thing, he's already sent those messages, the network is relaying them slowly, there's absolutely nothing he can do to stop it.19:46
justinBUJITSUBROFailed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to connect to packages.freecontrib.org:http:19:46
justinBUJITSUBROSome index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.19:46
justinBUJITSUBROthat is the enier list or "output " i thnik19:46
justinBUJITSUBROwahoo that was fun never been kicked b4 by the way wasnt spaming an i said that i have an infintel understandtin19:46
Azelphurthere you go, see?19:46
justinBUJITSUBROi closed out several thing just now hope it helped19:46
justinBUJITSUBRO by the way i am in belize the isp suck huge19:46
Azelphurall you need to do in situations like that is just +b for a few minutes until the network has finished staggering the paste, hehe19:47
czajkowskiAzelphur: next time call ops so19:47
czajkowskii did what i knew19:47
czajkowskiok19:47
justinBUJITSUBROxchat url scraper waht ever the hell that is sitll is up doint know how to get ride of it19:47
AzelphurjustinBUJITSUBRO: yea, it's stopped now, use www.pastebin.com for large pastes in future :)19:47
Azelphurczajkowski: np, just so you know for next time :D19:47
czajkowskiAzelphur: fine19:47
AzelphurjustinBUJITSUBRO: that's a problem with your internet connection though, it's saying that it can't resolve the domains19:48
errordeveloperthere should be an xchat plugin to redirect any pastes to a pastebin site19:48
justinBUJITSUBROdid any one see waht i was talking a bout w. my problem somone said is was a ntwork prblem19:48
Azelphurit's highly likely your DNS server, or entire internet connection is down19:48
errordeveloperjustinBUJITSUBRO: oh god, sure we did19:48
justinBUJITSUBROlol19:48
Azelphuror that your DNS server is blocking that domain19:49
justinBUJITSUBROsorry19:49
errordeveloperjustinBUJITSUBRO: and I gave you one suggestion already19:49
justinBUJITSUBROok i chech hist. of chat19:49
errordeveloperjustinBUJITSUBRO: ping  91.189.88.4019:49
justinBUJITSUBROok yea yousai network set up19:49
justinBUJITSUBROok soory but how do i ping?19:50
errordeveloperand don't even try to paste any ping output, for god sake, lol.19:50
justinBUJITSUBROok cool i wont19:50
Azelphurlol19:51
justinBUJITSUBROi got the error message after trying to reload synaptic never really seen it were it couldnt find host name19:52
justinBUJITSUBROwill you tell me how to " ping  91.189.88.40" please19:53
BigRedSjustinBUJITSUBRO: open a terminal19:54
BigRedSand type19:54
BigRedSping -c 5 91.189.88.4019:54
justinBUJITSUBROok will do19:55
BigRedSIt'll 'ping' 5 times, then produce some statistics, and give you your prompt back19:55
* BigRedS wanders off, so I'm afraid whoever told you to do that will have to tell you what to do with the output, sorry19:55
justinBUJITSUBRO5 transmitted 5 recived19:56
justinBUJITSUBROok thanks19:56
AzelphurjustinBUJITSUBRO: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dig packages.freecontrib.org | pastebinit19:58
Azelphurrun that in a terminal and give me the paste.ubuntu.com link it gives you :)19:59
Azelphurthinking sanely, I bet that won't work because you can't contact the server to install pastebinit19:59
Azelphur\o/19:59
Azelphur!private | justinBUJITSUBRO20:00
lubotu3justinBUJITSUBRO: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.20:00
justinBUJITSUBROok i just tried what azelphur just said to me20:01
justinBUJITSUBROand this is what i got20:01
justinBUJITSUBROUnable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?20:01
Azelphurclose synaptic package manager or the update tool20:01
Azelphuror anything else that might be open like that20:01
justinBUJITSUBROnow i am really lost i have never had this problem20:01
justinBUJITSUBROhaha i told you i was dumb that i closed synaptic20:02
Azelphur:)20:02
justinBUJITSUBROits working20:02
dauberswoot, nslu2+cups == printer working on wifes win xp machine :)20:03
justinBUJITSUBROok i belive it is don20:03
justinBUJITSUBROSetting up pastebinit (1.1-1) ...20:03
justinBUJITSUBROhttp://pastebin.com/aE2aqDE20:03
justinBUJITSUBROthat the last lines20:03
justinBUJITSUBROwhat to do now?20:04
popeythats not a valid pastebin id20:04
popeyprobably blocked due to it containing lots of URLs20:04
popeyso it looks like spam20:04
justinBUJITSUBROSetting up pastebinit (1.1-1) ...20:06
justinBUJITSUBROhttp://pastebin.com/aE2aqDE920:06
justinBUJITSUBRO 20:06
justinBUJITSUBROsorry i mised the 9 at the end20:06
justinBUJITSUBROis that better?20:06
justinBUJITSUBROor still a thing bad20:06
popeyuhm20:06
popeyyour sources list has packages.freecontrib.org20:07
popeyshould it not be package.freecontrib.org ?20:07
popey(no s)20:07
BigRedStheir site says it should have the s. I think20:08
popeyok20:08
popeyits their site thats broken then20:08
BigRedSOh wait, that's a post from 200620:08
popeywhy is someone using that url anyway?20:08
popeyjustinBUJITSUBRO: can you "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" please?20:09
justinBUJITSUBROnot real shure of what has happend  all iknow is that when i hit reload on synaptic i got a message sataing for almost all my sources saying that the program count find host name20:09
justinBUJITSUBROsorry popey how do i do that?20:09
popeytype the command in a terminal20:09
popeypastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list20:09
justinBUJITSUBROok will do20:10
justinBUJITSUBROi dont know if that worked but i think so20:10
justinBUJITSUBROit gave me this ..http://pastebin.com/JdZ8XJvj20:11
popeydeb http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security main restricted universe multiverse20:11
popeythat looks broken20:11
popeydeb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free20:12
popeyshould not be there20:12
BigRedS#20:12
BigRedS#20:12
popeyyou're on Ubuntu 10.04 right?20:12
BigRedSoop20:12
justinBUJITSUBROyes sir20:12
Azelphurhaha http://....20:12
Azelphurthat's broked o.O20:12
justinBUJITSUBROiam w8ing to upgrade just dont know how20:12
popeyok, one moment20:13
justinBUJITSUBROi think i have to w8 till the next lts version20:13
AzelphurjustinBUJITSUBRO: system > administration > software sources > updates > change the dropdown box at the bottom to show normal releases :)20:14
popeyhang on Azelphur20:14
popeylets get his sources fixed first20:14
Azelphurbut you will need to fix your sources.list first before updating20:14
Azelphuryep :P20:14
popeywhich I am doing right now20:14
Azelphurso listen to popey then do that in summary lol20:14
justinBUJITSUBROok20:16
justinBUJITSUBRObut dont i have to w8 till 2013 whent the next lts comes out?20:17
popeynext LTS is April 201220:17
popeyright, I've tidied up your sources.list...20:17
justinBUJITSUBROoh ok sorry20:17
popeyhttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YzX1VEQA20:17
popeyso what I would do is the following commands:-20:17
popeysudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup20:18
popeyexactly like that20:18
justinBUJITSUBROok il doit20:18
popeylet me know when done and I'll give the next command20:18
justinBUJITSUBROyes sir i am ready for the next one20:19
popeywget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YzX1VEQA -O ~/sources.list.new20:20
justinBUJITSUBROok..20:21
justinBUJITSUBRO2011-07-24 14:20:38 (2.74 MB/s) - `/home/justin/sources.list.new' saved [1298]20:21
popeyexcellent20:21
popeynext line:-20:21
justinBUJITSUBROthats waht i got20:21
justinBUJITSUBROok20:21
popeysudo cp ~/sources.list.new /etc/apt/sources.list20:21
justinBUJITSUBROok i did the sudo cp20:22
popeyok20:22
popeysudo apt-get update20:22
popeyshouldn't error20:22
popeybe right back20:23
daubersbah nslu2 is too slow for a postcript printer server :(20:23
justinBUJITSUBROok20:23
* daubers repurposes the revo20:23
StevenRdaubers: I'm wondering about sorting my parents out with a revo for a myth box20:23
justinBUJITSUBROwhat is the protocol for pasteing large out puts ?20:25
popeyjustinBUJITSUBRO: apt-get update | pastebinit20:26
justinBUJITSUBROok20:26
justinBUJITSUBROE: Unable to lock the list directory20:27
justinBUJITSUBROYou are trying to send an empty document, exiting.20:27
popeyah sorry20:27
popeysudo apt-get update | pastebinit20:28
justinBUJITSUBROtried that too and got ..justin@Jah-love:~$ sudo You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.20:28
popeyodd, works here20:29
justinBUJITSUBROi just did it by typing and it seems to work now20:30
justinBUJITSUBROhere we go...http://pastebin.com/cRBXWxZY20:30
daubersstupid routers20:30
popeyjustinBUJITSUBRO: looks better20:31
justinBUJITSUBROok yes it does thatnks in major part to you all i did was copy and past when i do synaptic i get 3 GPG errors20:32
justinBUJITSUBROone for medi buntu and 3 for ppa launchpad lucid20:33
justinBUJITSUBRO2 for ppa sorry20:33
justinBUJITSUBROi am not shure if this is a widely known fact but here in belize things like skype is block20:34
justinBUJITSUBROalso i cant get certain content like radio stations cause "sorry this content is not avaiable in your area due to reguatory ristriction"20:38
justinBUJITSUBROi got that form "player.streamtheworld.com/_players/citadel/?sid=3003&nid"20:38
justinBUJITSUBROthank you to those that have helped me today "popey"  "BigRedS" and "Azelphur"20:42
Azelphuryw :)20:42
BigRedSer, no probs :)20:50
Azelphuroh in other news, I got another screen, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/July%202011/IMG_20110724_215511.jpg20:57
Azelphurthe little keypad on the left has a screen too :-)20:58
BigRedSSurely you're looking at the game, not the keyboard? :)21:02
AzelphurBigRedS: yea, the extra buttons are handy :)21:03
exobuzzgoing to install ubuntu on my mothers pc. had enough of removing all the malware.21:44
exobuzzalso giving her unity as a punishment (j/k)21:45
BigRedShaha21:49
WorMzyThat poor woman21:50
WorMzy:P21:50
exobuzz;-)22:13
suprengrtime for bed said Zebedee... cheers & goodnight to all22:13
exobuzzthe only get out clause she has depends on her printer model. if it isnt well supported, i might reconsider22:13
=== michael is now known as Guest40878
AlanBellprinters tend to be quite well supported22:14
AlanBellbits of some multi-functional devices are the weak point22:15
exobuzzyeh22:16
exobuzzalthough she has a canon pixma and they can be annoying from past experience22:16
exobuzzseems there is a driver. well im not going to try and clean her vista install again anyway, so if it doesnt work, ill install windows later on if needed22:18
Guest40878jo22:54
Guest40878hi22:54
Guest40878any having trouble with a magic trackpad22:55
Guest40878?22:55

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