=== stdin is now known as tsimpson [06:20] morning all [06:27] popey: haha, just as I silenced my alarm my laptop beeped at me... :) [06:28] lo [06:28] good morning! [06:29] * daubers is almost ready for a train ride to londered [06:58] sammiches made [07:24] AlanBell: change of plan! [07:24] AlanBell: I wont need picking up [07:36] aw man. This is going to be dead today :( [07:37] this irc channel? [07:38] * popey sends AlanBell a text [07:38] popey: yeah [07:38] since you'll all be off at the museum [07:38] heh, it will be quiet [07:38] unless people at the museum somehow ssh in :D [07:39] that would be amusing. walking round in complete silence, talking to each other over IRC instead [07:39] heh [07:41] * popey goes to make breakfast [07:55] how do i get android to show my phone number? [07:58] it's buried in the settings IIRC [07:58] ali1234: menu, settings, about phone, network [07:58] on mine [07:58] er, no, phone identity rather than network [07:59] settings -> about phone -> status on 2.3 [07:59] popey: ok, won't pick you up [07:59] didn't get a text though [07:59] faster to dial another phone ali1234 :D [07:59] AlanBell: did you change number when you got a new phone? [07:59] but i don't have another phone [07:59] if so I dont have your number [07:59] ah [08:00] 07738 789190 [08:00] well i do but i only have 1 sim card [08:02] so, if i put my phone number in my google+ profile, and share it with a certain circle, do people in that circle who have android see it on their phone? [08:05] cos the good thing about android is it gets all my contacts... but the bad thing is nobody shares their phone number on their public profile for obvious reasons [08:06] so i just get a bunch of contacts with no phone numbers [08:06] but circles might solve that problem [08:07] i hope some day we can put circles inside other circles [08:09] circles in circles feature is landing next week or thereabouts I think [08:09] awesome [08:14] [Tony] Falling for the Stars - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/07/24/falling-for-the-stars/ [08:31] so i don't want to start an argument or anything [08:31] but isn't the oracle vs google thing exactly what the anti-mono crowd fear will happen with mono, except played out with java? [08:31] and what's to stop oracle from buying microsoft and then starting suing everyone who uses mono? [08:32] isnt there a no-sue agreement Microsoft has? [08:32] I guess in your scenario oracle could revoke that? [08:32] yeah, that was part of the point ISTR [08:32] so oracle says "sorry, your agreement is with microsoft, not us" [08:32] "lawsuit" [08:32] * popey shrugs [09:00] so i heard there was a email client with a plugin that makes it like gmail [09:01] but i can't remember if it was evolution or thunderbird [09:03] thunderbird I think [09:05] time to try it out i guess [09:05] it can't be worse than evo [09:05] haha, I don't think there's much that's worse than evo [09:07] for me the best thing about gmail is not the way it draws the conversation but the way it intelligently threads things [09:07] evolution doesn't seem to be able to thread email at all [09:15] tbird actually understands how to set up a gmail account automatically unlike evolution... [09:18] Yeah, and tbird sort-of works with Gmail's odd idea of folders [09:22] it doesn't work properly with unity launcher though [09:22] * BigRedS feigns surprise === RaycisCharles is now known as SP2withRollup4 === SP2withRollup4 is now known as RaycisCharles [10:21] morning everyone. [10:24] ey up [10:25] morning marxjohnson [10:26] g'morning brobostigon & marxjohnson [10:28] morning BigRedS [10:30] G'morning! How's things? [10:34] BigRedS: not bad, just trying to fix some (libmozjs, dbus, gnome-settings) segfaults. and you? [10:35] yeah, pretty good really. Getting lots of long-standing things done which is nice. But stuff keeps moving around my workspaces for some reason :( [10:36] :( [10:38] I think it's just fat-finger syndrome [10:38] ok. [11:25] * suprengr is jealous... sitting here on standby. not a good swap for a geeknik :( [11:26] ha, yeah. I'm sat in a noc waiting for stuff to go wrong [11:27] BigRedS: maybe do some maintenence, to keep you mind from seizing up. [11:28] yeah, that's what I'm doing. Scripting maintenancey things [11:28] :) [11:28] All those 'I'll write that at some point' scripts that I've been building up for the past, er, ages [11:28] ok. [11:28] though I can't help but think that if things aren't breaking we're probably doing maintenance pretty good already :) [11:29] yes :) [11:29] * suprengr sends BigRedS virtual "something gone wrong" to stop boredom [11:29] haha [11:30] I did get to the point earlier where I 'broke' something to check the monitoring was working [11:30] lol [11:30] +1 [11:31] ha! F1 on TV... that'll do *very* nicely [11:31] pft. I'm waiting for the motoGP :) [11:32] :) [11:32] watch the motogp 10-11pm ish, then at midnight I get to ride home. On empty roads :) [11:32] * suprengr hums "2 wheels on my wagon" [11:32] haha [11:34] [remembering good ol' motorbike days - but kneecaps can take only so much injuring] [11:35] ah yeah. There's far too many people who used to ride bikes but kept breaking themselves... [11:35] is charliebear.mooo.com working, someone just told me it wasnt. [11:35] Sorry to be missing the geeknic today, but to be honest I think I'd disappear into Platform 9 3/4 anyway. [11:35] brobostigon: is for me [11:35] (Such is my Harry Potter obsession.) [11:36] issyl0: nah, this is where all the cool kids are anyway :) [11:36] BigRedS: good, thank you, that means there is somethig wrong with the person who tried it. [11:36] :P [11:36] brobostigon: yeah, it's generally user error :) [11:36] BigRedS: i gave a full irl aswell, http://charliebear* [11:36] url* [11:37] PEBWAK [problem exist between *wall* and keyboard] [11:37] haha [11:38] BigRedS: could the issue have been that they were so slow with it loading, they thought it didnt work? [11:38] brobostigon: it's possible, it took a few (~4) seconds for me [11:38] seemed to be a few redirects to follow [11:39] BigRedS: that is still within reasonable limits. [11:39] BigRedS: only one redirect, from that url, to my vps's. [11:40] ah, fair enough. odd media on other servers perhaps? The stauts bar showed a few different domains [11:40] BigRedS: hmm, interesting. [11:40] though I can't get it to do it again now [11:40] maybe I imagined it [11:40] * BigRedS looks suspiciously at his coffee [11:40] ok. [11:40] weird. [11:45] BigRedS: i saw no errors within apache's logs. so it must be user error. or maybe ipv4/ipv6 clash on users end. [11:52] * suprengr notes some of those at geeknik are actually here on IRC... whasup folks.. too many laptops & not enough muffins :D [11:53] what we need is a muffin transport over irc [11:53] definitely +1 [11:54] suprengr: some might simply have screen + irssi on servers, and arent actually connected to them. [11:54] yeah, I never log out of IRC [11:54] but I do sleep sometimes, and occasionally I go outside, too :) [11:55] :) [11:56] ...yeh but *some* [cough] were only a few mins ago "away"... that wall at 9 3/4 is more active than suspected [11:56] ahh [11:56] well, it's nice of them to try to include us, too :) [11:57] yeh... gotta nice warm cudley feeling now ;) [11:57] ..but no muffins! [11:58] * BigRedS had muffins [11:58] but I ate them. That was what they were for, in my defnece [11:58] BigRedS, thankyou for not saying "has" muffins [11:59] oh, but they were the breakfasty sort, too, not cakey ones :( [12:01] talking of breakfast..... [12:01] its 1pm :P officially brunch [12:03] * suprengr sets status on Pidgin to "Watching F1"... why is there no option on Xchat to do same? [12:06] suprengr: /away [what you want your status to be] [12:07] so /away watching the f1 [12:07] would do that in xchat [12:07] i *know* that... but not so much fun as a separate status ;) [12:08] hmm [12:08] ahh === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski [12:10] like "Watching MotoGP" for BigRedS - complete with a different 'grey out' colour [giggles] [12:11] * BigRedS _really_ wishes 'ls' was analogous to 'show tables' in mysql [12:25] BigRedS: yeah ls really should be...i agree. [13:26] hmm [13:27] hello czajkowski [13:27] rrslly want to unsuscribe from thr ml [13:28] * BigRedS wonders if czajkowski is drunk [13:28] pimms ? [13:28] don't mind if I do! [13:28] cheers! [13:29] BigRedS: i curious as to if czajkowski was drunk as you sugegsted, if she had been drinking that or not? [13:30] nooo phone [13:30] :( [13:50] yup - BigRedS was right ;) [13:50] * suprengr cowers in corner awaiting wrath [14:42] http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/112437 any ideas as to this error i am getting from wine. please. [14:43] brobostigon, i couldn't get KSP to run in wine either =\ [14:43] gord: same error ? [14:43] can't remember, but i gave up and ran it in windows [14:44] ohwell, thanks. [14:44] * brobostigon doesnt have windows, so gives up. [14:45] What is KSP? [14:45] dwatkins: it is a game, where you build a space program. [14:46] Oh that, yeah :) [14:46] http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/about.php [14:46] I was saddened to learn there is no linux nor Mac version. [14:46] i nearly managed a stable orbit yesterday. so close [14:46] I'll have to wait until I can bootcamp. [14:54] oh I was looking at that the other day. But didn't get as far as attempting an install [15:01] oooh.. reminds me - I have downloaded Proun. Any advice re needs when installing in Wine? [15:02] check wine hq first [15:02] gord, k [15:02] thanks [15:06] it works fine in wine [15:06] I am running it here at 1920x1080 using wine in natty [15:07] thank gawd for that... wine hq has nowt [15:07] cheers popey [15:46] lo [15:56] le sigh [15:56] Afternoon daubers [15:57] Someone needs to make something that makes an arm poke out of a machine and slap people [16:04] Quiet this afternoon isn't it [16:06] to.. warm... to type [16:06] * daubers throws a bucket of water over gord [16:07] popey: Do you still have a wifi problem for OggCamp? Do you need any wifi routers? [16:52] afternoon all [16:52] it is [17:35] so the geeknic and Science Fiction exhibition was great fun today [17:35] nice family friendly day out [17:35] sorry I couldn't make it [17:35] but I was a bit disapointed at the low turnout [17:35] totally not pointing fingers at people who couldn't make it, not my point [17:35] what sort of events should we do that people will turn up to? [17:36] should we make things *less* family friendly? [17:36] moar pub! [17:36] I don't quite understand why nobody who works at Millbank thought it would be a nice event to pop along to [17:37] London is I assume a fairly reasonable place for people to get to, trains go there [17:37] MartijnVdS got a train from the Netherlands to come to this event [17:38] wow [17:38] though most of Belgium is easier to get to from London than much of the north of England [17:38] by train [17:38] so we could do more "drink after work in the west end" type things [17:39] or stuff out in the countryside [17:39] or a meetup in a starbucks some afternoon during the week [17:39] Personally, I'd like stuff at the weekend and in London, 'cause I'm normally in london at the weekend. I just couldn't do *this* one. [17:39] ...yeh - try getting to an 'event' when they sack a colleague and expect you to cover for him :( [17:40] sooo much annoyed at firm! [17:40] indeed, totally not pointing fingers [17:40] [no finger pointing taken] [17:40] :D [17:40] just want to know if we are doing something awkward for people [17:41] there were 9 people today [17:41] Well, it was close to ideal for me [17:41] including smartphone loving toddlers [17:41] AlanBell: still 9 is more than 1 [17:41] and we had a nice day out [17:41] so all in all it was a good fun [17:41] we did have a nice day out [17:41] bar we forgot to take pics ;( [17:41] and we went home via tower bridge and westminster bridge [17:42] there are some pics [17:42] Hey guys, is it okay for me to ask a question here? [17:42] ...see =- told you czajkowski was tipsie! [17:42] no_name_brand: sure, ask away [17:42] * suprengr ...cowers [17:43] AlanBell: I was wondering if there's a Python library available that would let me read/write to virtual memory (RAM) on Ubuntu? Kind of like cytpes kernel32 wrappers for Windows. [17:43] suprengr: no I wasnt! [17:44] czajkowski, ;0 [17:46] no_name_brand: read and write what sort of stuff? [17:46] most python stuff is cross platform [17:46] AlanBell: I'd like to read/modify data at certain virtual memory addresses. [17:47] That's true, but ctypes' kernel32 wrapper is specifically for providing interaction between Windows dlls and Python. [17:51] that sounds like something a bit dangerous to do! [17:51] no_name_brand: When you say 'virtual memory' what do you actually mean? [17:51] do you want to go poking about into the address space of other processes? [17:51] no_name_brand: The address space of your current process or others? [17:52] AlanBell, penguin42 : yes, the address space of processes. [17:53] no_name_brand: The ptrace system call lets you do that, or you could script gdb! [17:53] I see crashes ahead. . . but while there's moonlight and music . . . [17:55] penguin42: I'm not sure how scripting gdb could help me? Could you point me to something on that? [17:55] no_name_brand: gdb can attach to an arbitrary process and access it's memory - it uses ptrace to do it [17:56] no_name_brand: But please go back and explain what you're actually trying to do [17:58] AlanBell: We could always arrange some kind of location rotating meetup [17:58] penguin42: ahh! So by the way, when I'm googling/discussing this stuff, I shouldn't use terms like "virtual memory" but more like "accessing address space"? What I'm trying to do is this: I have a program which uses my RAM to store certain pieces of data as it's working - I'd like to see what it's storing on RAM, search for specific values of data (and their corresponding addresses), and then choose to modify them if I'd lik [17:59] I used to do this a lot for cheating in games on Windows, but right now I'm doing it for work - someone has written a closed source program that I can't easily tie into :p [17:59] So I'm sort of familiar with what I'd do on Windows, but not on linux. [18:00] yeah, virtual memory is more what we would call swap space [18:00] DMA perhaps [18:00] no_name_brand: you might find more help tbh in a #python channel if it's python related tbh [18:00] no_name_brand: So if it's the address space of one process then just use gdb to do that - it's scriptable in python [18:00] nt trying to put you off being here [18:00] direct memory access, memory mapped files, address space, peek and poke would all be terms to try [18:01] but there would be a lot more python ddevelopers there to help you [18:01] daubers: aye some of the lug folks meet up on a Thursday evening for drinks [18:01] penguin42: Great! I'll look into that then! [18:01] czajkowski: Well, yeah, penguin42 pretty much answered my question though, so no worries. [18:01] daubers: we all know to poke each other on the thursday morning to pick the pub later that event [18:01] no_name_brand: no worries [18:02] no_name_brand: you can find a lot of info about a process in /prc/, including aa complete in memory image. No ide if you can write to it though [18:02] so a weekday evening pub night might work [18:03] I could probably do one of those a month, location depending :) [18:03] aye sure we can give it a go [18:03] cant hurt to try [18:03] yup [18:04] so lets try that for a few months [18:04] ideally a place that has reasonable priced food close to decent transportation and oddly enough free wifi works well [18:05] in London, or maybe rotating round the M25? or further out? [18:05] AlanBell: I'd do one in London and one outside somewhere [18:06] Then rotate thatway and maybe rotate the somewhere [18:06] well August is going to be busy [18:06] do we care about trains or is parking a bigger deal? [18:06] maybe late august [18:06] the idea being to keep the events regular so people can make one and skip the next or vice versa [18:07] Maybe do something like Basingstoke/London/Reading/London/Oxford/London or somesuch [18:07] that sounds good [18:07] Woking would work too [18:07] Get less "Things never happen near me" complaints that way :) [18:07] as a train hub [18:08] yup [18:08] don't train places normally also have parking? [18:08] what other train hubs are there? [18:08] * BigRedS rides a motorbike, I've never been that interested in either... [18:08] guilford [18:09] BigRedS: town centre pubs sometimes don't have car parks [18:09] or anywhere I would want to park my car [18:09] Bristol? [18:09] yeah, I figured the stations were likely to [18:09] Swindon [18:09] BigRedS: ah, see what you mean [18:09] Anyone happen to know if there's a python library for easy access to all the microblogging services? eg twitter, identi.ca, so on so fourth. [18:10] Azelphur: is there a libgwibber or scriptable bit of it perhaps? [18:10] !info libgwibber [18:10] Package libgwibber does not exist in natty [18:11] https://launchpad.net/gwibber/libgwibber [18:11] AlanBell: not sure what language gwibber is written in tbh :P [18:11] python [18:11] oh fun [18:11] everything's written in python these days; it's the new C [18:11] except the cool things. Those are written in Perl [18:11] it is the new BASIC actually [18:12] haha, yeah [18:12] * Azelphur looks around to try and figure out how it works [18:12] but you don't have to be embarrassed about it [18:12] it's Linux' VB but actually a good programming language [18:13] Indeed, Python is awesome now :) [18:13] there isn't a lot you can't do with it [18:21] I have had some [small] experience in Perl scripting... is Pyhton actually close enough to be recognisable? [18:21] lol if there is a library for python, it's not documented anywhere [18:21] *Python [18:24] suprengr: lots of perly people find Python abhorrent for a while and then learn to love it [18:24] I remain unconvinced, but I *like* line-noise and braces :) [18:25] that's what I call an honest answer - thanks [18:26] * Azelphur hugs python [18:26] * suprengr hugs Azelphur ... & [I bet] worries Azelphur [18:27] * BigRedS tries to hug CPAN but it's just too big [18:27] xD [18:27] ;D [18:27] that said I do wish I could figure out what on earth is going on with gwibber. :( [18:27] ...& no I'm not! [18:27] I want to write shiny things :( [18:29] I've spent most of today knee-deep in a module. It's not very good for a getting-to-the-end-and-seeing-what-you-achieved sort of buzz :( [18:33] Azelphur, you mean http://tinyurl.com/3sdxldb ? [18:34] suprengr: I mean with regards to libgwibber :P [18:34] oh [18:37] o/ everone :-) [18:38] * suprengr reckons Azelphur is now checking out Gwibber 3.1 ;) [18:38] * Azelphur is talking to the folks in #gwibber and found out it has a dbus interface which does what I want [18:38] :P [18:38] o/ MartijnVdS [18:39] o/ MartijnVdS great to see you today [18:42] alanbell: did the kids ever end up trying the spread? :-) [18:42] they did, and they like it [18:43] little boy will try it tomorrow [18:43] o/ [18:43] MartijnVdS: Was excellent to put a face to a name [18:52] AlanBell, MartijnVd, czajkowski http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdaubney/5971292906/in/photostream :) [18:54] daubers: :) [18:57] Not taken the ones off my phone yet [18:59] So there I am - logged into Launchpad... can I find a way to create Wiki page - nah! [19:00] suprengr: are you on wiki.ubuntu.com by any chance [19:03] czajkowski, in launchpad homepage for self (https://launchpad.net/~suprengr). looked in wiki.ubuntu.com tna [19:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/suprengr [19:03] see the "create new empty page" link [19:04] suprengr: yes but you dont create a wiki page on lp...... [19:04] AlanBell, cheers [19:04] suprengr: yes but you dont create a wiki page on lp...... [19:05] [I was confused simply because there used to be in launchpad... now gone] [19:05] *a link in... [19:05] why are you speaking in [ ] brackets [19:05] {braces are more fun} [19:06] [because sometimes that's how how I like to] :D [19:06] {} [19:06] suprengr: were you on irc about a year ago with a different nick with john in it [19:07] czajkowski, most definitely not guiltyt... no [19:07] ok [19:09] unless, of course, this 'john' has a £1.000.000 waiting to be collected! [19:16] just went to "create new empty page" on Ubuntu Wiki & got: "You are not allowed to edit this page. " Now that's what I call an insult! [19:17] are you logged into the wiki? [19:19] AlanBell, i *was* but it seems to be acting as if I'm not... time to close browser & start again methinks... [19:32] yea gads that was a fight! got there at last - it put put up a fight but suprengr won in the end - on wiki page ready to edit ... hardly seems worth the effort after that! [19:38] hello from belize i am havaing a real problem ( ihave an infantile understanding of ubuntu) i hope somone can help [19:39] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:39] anyone recocnize this i ched foroms but i didnot understand them [19:40] justinBUJITSUBRO: can you pastebin the entire output please? [19:40] !pastebin [19:40] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:41] justinBUJITSUBRO: certainly that's a problem with you network connection set-up [19:41] GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 332E82B0E94D1E5CGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 332E82B0E94D1E5CGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public ke [19:41] y is not available: NO_PUBKEY D0AFF96872D340A3Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:41] Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:41] Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (34.52.53.34). - connect (110: Connection timed out) [19:41] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:41] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:41] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:41] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/Release.gpg Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] !pastebin | justinBUJITSUBRO [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] justinBUJITSUBRO: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] lol [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] toodles/msg chanserv op #ubuntu-uk [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/Release.gpg Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:42] grrrrr [19:42] don't think a kick was required for that, was just user error :) [19:43] +b for 10 seconds would have fixed it :p [19:43] Azelphur: couldnt stop him pasting [19:43] Azelphur: well i'm kinda in the middle of my dinner [19:43] *shrug* [19:43] and nobody else around [19:43] less lecturing :) [19:43] thanks [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/main/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/restricted/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/universe/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] justinBUJITSUBRO: will you stop s[pamming please [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] justinBUJITSUBRO: stop it [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] justinBUJITSUBRO: dude, stop flooding the channel! [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] go for it czajkowski [19:44] Azelphur: still happy [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] +b is still all that's required [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/main/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:44] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/restricted/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:45] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/universe/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:45] the only reason it's continuing is because of sendq :) [19:45] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:45] czajkowski: Set a quiet [19:45] justinBUJITSUBRO: will you pelase stop it [19:45] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:45] Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [19:45] justinBUJITSUBRO: please stop pasting that [19:45] it's not helpful [19:45] and you are spamming the channel [19:45] justinBUJITSUBRO: I shall unmute the channel, please do not paste that again [19:46] Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to connect to packages.freecontrib.org:http: [19:46] czajkowski: he isn't actually doing anything, this is basic IRC stuff, when you send a large paste, the IRC network slows it right down as a flood limitation thing, he's already sent those messages, the network is relaying them slowly, there's absolutely nothing he can do to stop it. [19:46] Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to connect to packages.freecontrib.org:http: [19:46] Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [19:46] that is the enier list or "output " i thnik [19:46] wahoo that was fun never been kicked b4 by the way wasnt spaming an i said that i have an infintel understandtin [19:46] there you go, see? [19:46] i closed out several thing just now hope it helped [19:46] by the way i am in belize the isp suck huge [19:47] all you need to do in situations like that is just +b for a few minutes until the network has finished staggering the paste, hehe [19:47] Azelphur: next time call ops so [19:47] i did what i knew [19:47] ok [19:47] xchat url scraper waht ever the hell that is sitll is up doint know how to get ride of it [19:47] justinBUJITSUBRO: yea, it's stopped now, use www.pastebin.com for large pastes in future :) [19:47] czajkowski: np, just so you know for next time :D [19:47] Azelphur: fine [19:48] justinBUJITSUBRO: that's a problem with your internet connection though, it's saying that it can't resolve the domains [19:48] there should be an xchat plugin to redirect any pastes to a pastebin site [19:48] did any one see waht i was talking a bout w. my problem somone said is was a ntwork prblem [19:48] it's highly likely your DNS server, or entire internet connection is down [19:48] justinBUJITSUBRO: oh god, sure we did [19:48] lol [19:49] or that your DNS server is blocking that domain [19:49] sorry [19:49] justinBUJITSUBRO: and I gave you one suggestion already [19:49] ok i chech hist. of chat [19:49] justinBUJITSUBRO: ping 91.189.88.40 [19:49] ok yea yousai network set up [19:50] ok soory but how do i ping? [19:50] and don't even try to paste any ping output, for god sake, lol. [19:50] ok cool i wont [19:51] lol [19:52] i got the error message after trying to reload synaptic never really seen it were it couldnt find host name [19:53] will you tell me how to " ping 91.189.88.40" please [19:54] justinBUJITSUBRO: open a terminal [19:54] and type [19:54] ping -c 5 91.189.88.40 [19:55] ok will do [19:55] It'll 'ping' 5 times, then produce some statistics, and give you your prompt back [19:55] * BigRedS wanders off, so I'm afraid whoever told you to do that will have to tell you what to do with the output, sorry [19:56] 5 transmitted 5 recived [19:56] ok thanks [19:58] justinBUJITSUBRO: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dig packages.freecontrib.org | pastebinit [19:59] run that in a terminal and give me the paste.ubuntu.com link it gives you :) [19:59] thinking sanely, I bet that won't work because you can't contact the server to install pastebinit [19:59] \o/ [20:00] !private | justinBUJITSUBRO [20:00] justinBUJITSUBRO: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [20:01] ok i just tried what azelphur just said to me [20:01] and this is what i got [20:01] Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [20:01] close synaptic package manager or the update tool [20:01] or anything else that might be open like that [20:01] now i am really lost i have never had this problem [20:02] haha i told you i was dumb that i closed synaptic [20:02] :) [20:02] its working [20:03] woot, nslu2+cups == printer working on wifes win xp machine :) [20:03] ok i belive it is don [20:03] Setting up pastebinit (1.1-1) ... [20:03] http://pastebin.com/aE2aqDE [20:03] that the last lines [20:04] what to do now? [20:04] thats not a valid pastebin id [20:04] probably blocked due to it containing lots of URLs [20:04] so it looks like spam [20:06] Setting up pastebinit (1.1-1) ... [20:06] http://pastebin.com/aE2aqDE9 [20:06] [20:06] sorry i mised the 9 at the end [20:06] is that better? [20:06] or still a thing bad [20:06] uhm [20:07] your sources list has packages.freecontrib.org [20:07] should it not be package.freecontrib.org ? [20:07] (no s) [20:08] their site says it should have the s. I think [20:08] ok [20:08] its their site thats broken then [20:08] Oh wait, that's a post from 2006 [20:08] why is someone using that url anyway? [20:09] justinBUJITSUBRO: can you "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" please? [20:09] not real shure of what has happend all iknow is that when i hit reload on synaptic i got a message sataing for almost all my sources saying that the program count find host name [20:09] sorry popey how do i do that? [20:09] type the command in a terminal [20:09] pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list [20:10] ok will do [20:10] i dont know if that worked but i think so [20:11] it gave me this ..http://pastebin.com/JdZ8XJvj [20:11] deb http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security main restricted universe multiverse [20:11] that looks broken [20:12] deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free [20:12] should not be there [20:12] # [20:12] # [20:12] you're on Ubuntu 10.04 right? [20:12] oop [20:12] yes sir [20:12] haha http://.... [20:12] that's broked o.O [20:12] iam w8ing to upgrade just dont know how [20:13] ok, one moment [20:13] i think i have to w8 till the next lts version [20:14] justinBUJITSUBRO: system > administration > software sources > updates > change the dropdown box at the bottom to show normal releases :) [20:14] hang on Azelphur [20:14] lets get his sources fixed first [20:14] but you will need to fix your sources.list first before updating [20:14] yep :P [20:14] which I am doing right now [20:14] so listen to popey then do that in summary lol [20:16] ok [20:17] but dont i have to w8 till 2013 whent the next lts comes out? [20:17] next LTS is April 2012 [20:17] right, I've tidied up your sources.list... [20:17] oh ok sorry [20:17] http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YzX1VEQA [20:17] so what I would do is the following commands:- [20:18] sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup [20:18] exactly like that [20:18] ok il doit [20:18] let me know when done and I'll give the next command [20:19] yes sir i am ready for the next one [20:20] wget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YzX1VEQA -O ~/sources.list.new [20:21] ok.. [20:21] 2011-07-24 14:20:38 (2.74 MB/s) - `/home/justin/sources.list.new' saved [1298] [20:21] excellent [20:21] next line:- [20:21] thats waht i got [20:21] ok [20:21] sudo cp ~/sources.list.new /etc/apt/sources.list [20:22] ok i did the sudo cp [20:22] ok [20:22] sudo apt-get update [20:22] shouldn't error [20:23] be right back [20:23] bah nslu2 is too slow for a postcript printer server :( [20:23] ok [20:23] * daubers repurposes the revo [20:23] daubers: I'm wondering about sorting my parents out with a revo for a myth box [20:25] what is the protocol for pasteing large out puts ? [20:26] justinBUJITSUBRO: apt-get update | pastebinit [20:26] ok [20:27] E: Unable to lock the list directory [20:27] You are trying to send an empty document, exiting. [20:27] ah sorry [20:28] sudo apt-get update | pastebinit [20:28] tried that too and got ..justin@Jah-love:~$ sudo You are trying to send an empty document, exiting. [20:29] odd, works here [20:30] i just did it by typing and it seems to work now [20:30] here we go...http://pastebin.com/cRBXWxZY [20:30] stupid routers [20:31] justinBUJITSUBRO: looks better [20:32] ok yes it does thatnks in major part to you all i did was copy and past when i do synaptic i get 3 GPG errors [20:33] one for medi buntu and 3 for ppa launchpad lucid [20:33] 2 for ppa sorry [20:34] i am not shure if this is a widely known fact but here in belize things like skype is block [20:38] also i cant get certain content like radio stations cause "sorry this content is not avaiable in your area due to reguatory ristriction" [20:38] i got that form "player.streamtheworld.com/_players/citadel/?sid=3003&nid" [20:42] thank you to those that have helped me today "popey" "BigRedS" and "Azelphur" [20:42] yw :) [20:50] er, no probs :) [20:57] oh in other news, I got another screen, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/July%202011/IMG_20110724_215511.jpg [20:58] the little keypad on the left has a screen too :-) [21:02] Surely you're looking at the game, not the keyboard? :) [21:03] BigRedS: yea, the extra buttons are handy :) [21:44] going to install ubuntu on my mothers pc. had enough of removing all the malware. [21:45] also giving her unity as a punishment (j/k) [21:49] haha [21:50] That poor woman [21:50] :P [22:13] ;-) [22:13] time for bed said Zebedee... cheers & goodnight to all [22:13] the only get out clause she has depends on her printer model. if it isnt well supported, i might reconsider === michael is now known as Guest40878 [22:14] printers tend to be quite well supported [22:15] bits of some multi-functional devices are the weak point [22:16] yeh [22:16] although she has a canon pixma and they can be annoying from past experience [22:18] seems there is a driver. well im not going to try and clean her vista install again anyway, so if it doesnt work, ill install windows later on if needed [22:54] jo [22:54] hi [22:55] any having trouble with a magic trackpad [22:55] ?