[06:20] <AlanBell> morning all
[06:27] <BigRedS> popey: haha, just as I silenced my alarm my laptop beeped at me... :)
[06:28] <daubers> lo
[06:28] <BigRedS> good morning!
[06:29]  * daubers is almost ready for a train ride to londered
[06:58] <daubers> sammiches made
[07:24] <popey> AlanBell: change of plan!
[07:24] <popey> AlanBell: I wont need picking up
[07:36] <BigRedS> aw man. This is going to be dead today :(
[07:37] <popey> this irc channel?
[07:38]  * popey sends AlanBell a text
[07:38] <BigRedS> popey: yeah
[07:38] <BigRedS> since you'll all be off at the museum
[07:38] <popey> heh, it will be quiet
[07:38] <popey> unless people at the museum somehow ssh in :D
[07:39] <BigRedS> that would be amusing. walking round in complete silence, talking to each other over IRC instead
[07:39] <popey> heh
[07:41]  * popey goes to make breakfast
[07:55] <ali1234> how do i get android to show my phone number?
[07:58] <BigRedS> it's buried in the settings IIRC
[07:58] <BigRedS> ali1234: menu, settings, about phone, network
[07:58] <BigRedS> on mine
[07:58] <BigRedS> er, no, phone identity rather than network
[07:59] <ali1234> settings -> about phone -> status on 2.3
[07:59] <AlanBell> popey: ok, won't pick you up
[07:59] <AlanBell> didn't get a text though
[07:59] <popey> faster to dial another phone ali1234 :D
[07:59] <popey> AlanBell: did you change number when you got a new phone?
[07:59] <ali1234> but i don't have another phone
[07:59] <popey> if so I dont have your number
[07:59] <popey> ah
[08:00] <AlanBell> 07738 789190
[08:00] <ali1234> well i do but i only have 1 sim card
[08:02] <ali1234> so, if i put my phone number in my google+ profile, and share it with a certain circle, do people in that circle who have android see it on their phone?
[08:05] <ali1234> cos the good thing about android is it gets all my contacts... but the bad thing is nobody shares their phone number on their public profile for obvious reasons
[08:06] <ali1234> so i just get a bunch of contacts with no phone numbers
[08:06] <ali1234> but circles might solve that problem
[08:07] <ali1234> i hope some day we can put circles inside other circles
[08:09] <AlanBell> circles in circles feature is landing next week or thereabouts I think
[08:09] <ali1234> awesome
[08:14] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Tony] Falling for the Stars - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/07/24/falling-for-the-stars/
[08:31] <ali1234> so i don't want to start an argument or anything
[08:31] <ali1234> but isn't the oracle vs google thing exactly what the anti-mono crowd fear will happen with mono, except played out with java?
[08:31] <ali1234> and what's to stop oracle from buying microsoft and then starting suing everyone who uses mono?
[08:32] <popey> isnt there a no-sue agreement Microsoft has?
[08:32] <popey> I guess in your scenario oracle could revoke that?
[08:32] <BigRedS> yeah, that was part of the point ISTR
[08:32] <ali1234> so oracle says "sorry, your agreement is with microsoft, not us"
[08:32] <ali1234> "lawsuit"
[08:32]  * popey shrugs
[09:00] <ali1234> so i heard there was a email client with a plugin that makes it like gmail
[09:01] <ali1234> but i can't remember if it was evolution or thunderbird
[09:03] <BigRedS> thunderbird I think
[09:05] <ali1234> time to try it out i guess
[09:05] <ali1234> it can't be worse than evo
[09:05] <BigRedS> haha, I don't think there's much that's worse than evo
[09:07] <ali1234> for me the best thing about gmail is not the way it draws the conversation but the way it intelligently threads things
[09:07] <ali1234> evolution doesn't seem to be able to thread email at all
[09:15] <ali1234> tbird actually understands how to set up a gmail account automatically unlike evolution...
[09:18] <BigRedS> Yeah, and tbird sort-of works with Gmail's odd idea of folders
[09:22] <ali1234> it doesn't work properly with unity launcher though
[09:22]  * BigRedS feigns surprise
[10:21] <brobostigon> morning everyone.
[10:24] <marxjohnson> ey up
[10:25] <brobostigon> morning marxjohnson
[10:26] <BigRedS> g'morning brobostigon & marxjohnson
[10:28] <brobostigon> morning BigRedS
[10:30] <BigRedS> G'morning! How's things?
[10:34] <brobostigon> BigRedS: not bad, just trying to fix some (libmozjs, dbus, gnome-settings) segfaults. and you?
[10:35] <BigRedS> yeah, pretty good really. Getting lots of long-standing things done which is nice. But stuff keeps moving around my workspaces for some reason :(
[10:36] <brobostigon> :(
[10:38] <BigRedS> I think it's just fat-finger syndrome
[10:38] <brobostigon> ok.
[11:25]  * suprengr is jealous... sitting here on standby. not a good swap for a geeknik :(
[11:26] <BigRedS> ha, yeah. I'm sat in a noc waiting for stuff to go wrong
[11:27] <brobostigon> BigRedS: maybe do some maintenence, to keep you mind from seizing up.
[11:28] <BigRedS> yeah, that's what I'm doing. Scripting maintenancey things
[11:28] <brobostigon> :)
[11:28] <BigRedS> All those 'I'll write that at some point' scripts that I've been building up for the past, er, ages
[11:28] <brobostigon> ok.
[11:28] <BigRedS> though I can't help but think that if things aren't breaking we're probably doing maintenance pretty good already :)
[11:29] <brobostigon> yes :)
[11:29]  * suprengr sends BigRedS virtual "something gone wrong" to stop boredom
[11:29] <BigRedS> haha
[11:30] <BigRedS> I did get to the point earlier where I 'broke' something to check the monitoring was working
[11:30] <brobostigon> lol
[11:30] <suprengr> +1
[11:31] <suprengr> ha! F1 on TV... that'll do *very* nicely
[11:31] <BigRedS> pft. I'm waiting for the motoGP :)
[11:32] <brobostigon> :)
[11:32] <BigRedS> watch the motogp 10-11pm ish, then at midnight I get to ride home. On empty roads :)
[11:32]  * suprengr hums "2 wheels on my wagon"
[11:32] <BigRedS> haha
[11:34] <suprengr> [remembering good ol' motorbike days - but kneecaps can take only so much injuring]
[11:35] <BigRedS> ah yeah. There's far too many people who used to ride bikes but kept breaking themselves...
[11:35] <brobostigon> is charliebear.mooo.com working, someone just told me it wasnt.
[11:35] <issyl0> Sorry to be missing the geeknic today, but to be honest I think I'd disappear into Platform 9 3/4 anyway.
[11:35] <BigRedS> brobostigon: is for me
[11:35] <issyl0> (Such is my Harry Potter obsession.)
[11:36] <BigRedS> issyl0: nah, this is where all the cool kids are anyway :)
[11:36] <brobostigon> BigRedS: good, thank you, that means there is somethig wrong with the person who tried it.
[11:36] <issyl0> :P
[11:36] <BigRedS> brobostigon: yeah, it's generally user error :)
[11:36] <brobostigon> BigRedS: i gave a full irl aswell, http://charliebear*
[11:36] <brobostigon> url*
[11:37] <suprengr> PEBWAK [problem exist between *wall* and keyboard]
[11:37] <BigRedS> haha
[11:38] <brobostigon> BigRedS: could the issue have been that they were so slow with it loading, they thought it didnt work?
[11:38] <BigRedS> brobostigon: it's possible, it took a few (~4) seconds for me
[11:38] <BigRedS> seemed to be a few redirects to follow
[11:39] <brobostigon> BigRedS: that is still within reasonable limits.
[11:39] <brobostigon> BigRedS: only one redirect, from that url, to my vps's.
[11:40] <BigRedS> ah, fair enough. odd media on other servers perhaps? The stauts bar showed a few different domains
[11:40] <brobostigon> BigRedS: hmm, interesting.
[11:40] <BigRedS> though I can't get it to do it again now
[11:40] <BigRedS> maybe I imagined it
[11:40]  * BigRedS looks suspiciously at his coffee
[11:40] <brobostigon> ok.
[11:40] <brobostigon> weird.
[11:45] <brobostigon> BigRedS: i saw no errors within apache's logs. so it must be user error. or maybe ipv4/ipv6 clash on users end.
[11:52]  * suprengr notes some of those at geeknik are actually here on IRC... whasup folks.. too many laptops & not enough muffins :D
[11:53] <penguin42> what we need is a muffin transport over irc
[11:53] <suprengr> definitely +1
[11:54] <brobostigon> suprengr: some might simply have screen + irssi on servers, and arent actually connected to them.
[11:54] <BigRedS> yeah, I never log out of IRC
[11:54] <BigRedS> but I do sleep sometimes, and occasionally I go outside, too :)
[11:55] <brobostigon> :)
[11:56] <suprengr> ...yeh but *some* [cough] were only a few mins ago "away"... that wall at 9 3/4 is more active than suspected
[11:56] <BigRedS> ahh
[11:56] <BigRedS> well, it's nice of them to try to include us, too :)
[11:57] <suprengr> yeh... gotta nice warm cudley feeling now ;)
[11:57] <suprengr> ..but no muffins!
[11:58]  * BigRedS had muffins
[11:58] <BigRedS> but I ate them. That was what they were for, in my defnece
[11:58] <suprengr> BigRedS, thankyou for not saying "has" muffins
[11:59] <BigRedS> oh, but they were the breakfasty sort, too, not cakey ones :(
[12:01] <penguin42> talking of breakfast.....
[12:01] <gord> its 1pm :P officially brunch
[12:03]  * suprengr sets status on Pidgin to "Watching F1"... why is there no option on Xchat to do same?
[12:06] <BigRedS> suprengr: /away [what you want your status to be]
[12:07] <BigRedS> so /away watching the f1
[12:07] <BigRedS> would do that in xchat
[12:07] <suprengr> i *know* that... but not so much fun as a separate status ;)
[12:08] <czajkows1i> hmm
[12:08] <BigRedS> ahh
[12:10] <suprengr> like "Watching MotoGP" for BigRedS - complete with a different 'grey out' colour  [giggles]
[12:11]  * BigRedS _really_ wishes 'ls' was analogous to 'show tables' in mysql
[12:25] <oracology> BigRedS: yeah ls really should be...i agree.
[13:26] <czajkowski> hmm
[13:27] <brobostigon> hello czajkowski
[13:27] <czajkowski> rrslly want to unsuscribe from thr ml
[13:28]  * BigRedS wonders if czajkowski is drunk
[13:28] <brobostigon> pimms ?
[13:28] <BigRedS> don't mind if I do!
[13:28] <BigRedS> cheers!
[13:29] <brobostigon> BigRedS: i curious as to if czajkowski was drunk as you sugegsted, if she had been drinking that or not?
[13:30] <czajkowski> nooo phone
[13:30] <brobostigon> :(
[13:50] <suprengr> yup - BigRedS was right ;)
[13:50]  * suprengr cowers in corner awaiting wrath
[14:42] <brobostigon> http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/112437 any ideas as  to this error i am getting from wine. please.
[14:43] <gord> brobostigon, i couldn't get KSP to run in wine either =\
[14:43] <brobostigon> gord: same error ?
[14:43] <gord> can't remember, but i gave up and ran it in windows
[14:44] <brobostigon> ohwell, thanks.
[14:44]  * brobostigon doesnt have windows, so gives up.
[14:45] <dwatkins> What is KSP?
[14:45] <brobostigon> dwatkins: it is a game, where you build a space program.
[14:46] <dwatkins> Oh that, yeah :)
[14:46] <brobostigon> http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/about.php
[14:46] <dwatkins> I was saddened to learn there is no linux nor Mac version.
[14:46] <gord> i nearly managed a stable orbit yesterday. so close
[14:46] <dwatkins> I'll have to wait until I can bootcamp.
[14:54] <BigRedS> oh I was looking at that the other day. But didn't get as far as attempting an install
[15:01] <suprengr> oooh.. reminds me - I have downloaded Proun. Any advice re needs when installing in Wine?
[15:02] <gord> check wine hq first
[15:02] <suprengr> gord, k
[15:02] <suprengr> thanks
[15:06] <popey> it works fine in wine
[15:06] <popey> I am running it here at 1920x1080 using wine in natty
[15:07] <suprengr> thank gawd for that... wine hq has nowt
[15:07] <suprengr> cheers popey
[15:46] <daubers> lo
[15:56] <daubers> le sigh
[15:56] <DJones> Afternoon daubers
[15:57] <daubers> Someone needs to make something that makes an arm poke out of a machine and slap people
[16:04] <daubers> Quiet this afternoon isn't it
[16:06] <gord> to.. warm... to type
[16:06]  * daubers throws a bucket of water over gord
[16:07] <moreati> popey: Do you still have a wifi problem for OggCamp? Do you need any wifi routers?
[16:52] <AlanBell> afternoon all
[16:52] <penguin42> it is
[17:35] <AlanBell> so the geeknic and Science Fiction exhibition was great fun today
[17:35] <AlanBell> nice family friendly day out
[17:35] <popey> sorry I couldn't make it
[17:35] <AlanBell> but I was a bit disapointed at the low turnout
[17:35] <AlanBell> totally not pointing fingers at people who couldn't make it, not my point
[17:35] <AlanBell> what sort of events should we do that people will turn up to?
[17:36] <AlanBell> should we make things *less* family friendly?
[17:36] <BigRedS> moar pub!
[17:36] <AlanBell> I don't quite understand why nobody who works at Millbank thought it would be a nice event to pop along to
[17:37] <AlanBell> London is I assume a fairly reasonable place for people to get to, trains go there
[17:37] <AlanBell> MartijnVdS got a train from the Netherlands to come to this event
[17:38] <BigRedS> wow
[17:38] <BigRedS> though most of Belgium is easier to get to from London than much of the north of England
[17:38] <BigRedS> by train
[17:38] <AlanBell> so we could do more "drink after work in the west end" type things
[17:39] <AlanBell> or stuff out in the countryside
[17:39] <AlanBell> or a meetup in a starbucks some afternoon during the week
[17:39] <BigRedS> Personally, I'd like stuff at the weekend and in London, 'cause I'm normally in london at the weekend. I just couldn't do *this* one.
[17:39] <suprengr> ...yeh - try getting to an 'event' when they sack a colleague and expect you to cover for him :(
[17:40] <suprengr> sooo much annoyed at firm!
[17:40] <AlanBell> indeed, totally not pointing fingers
[17:40] <suprengr> [no finger pointing taken]
[17:40] <suprengr> :D
[17:40] <AlanBell> just want to know if we are doing something awkward for people
[17:41] <AlanBell> there were 9 people today
[17:41] <BigRedS> Well, it was close to ideal for me
[17:41] <AlanBell> including smartphone loving toddlers
[17:41] <czajkowski> AlanBell: still 9 is more than 1
[17:41] <czajkowski> and we had a nice day out
[17:41] <czajkowski> so all in all it was a good fun
[17:41] <AlanBell> we did have a nice day out
[17:41] <czajkowski> bar we forgot to take pics ;(
[17:41] <AlanBell> and we went home via tower bridge and westminster bridge
[17:42] <AlanBell> there are some pics
[17:42] <no_name_brand> Hey guys, is it okay for me to ask a question here?
[17:42] <suprengr> ...see =-  told you czajkowski  was tipsie!
[17:42] <AlanBell> no_name_brand: sure, ask away
[17:42]  * suprengr ...cowers
[17:43] <no_name_brand> AlanBell: I was wondering if there's a Python library available that would let me read/write to virtual memory (RAM) on Ubuntu? Kind of like cytpes kernel32 wrappers for Windows.
[17:43] <czajkowski> suprengr: no I wasnt!
[17:44] <suprengr> czajkowski, ;0
[17:46] <AlanBell> no_name_brand: read and write what sort of stuff?
[17:46] <AlanBell> most python stuff is cross platform
[17:46] <no_name_brand> AlanBell: I'd like to read/modify data at certain virtual memory addresses.
[17:47] <no_name_brand> That's true, but ctypes' kernel32 wrapper is specifically for providing interaction between Windows dlls and Python.
[17:51] <AlanBell> that sounds like something a bit dangerous to do!
[17:51] <penguin42> no_name_brand: When you say 'virtual memory' what do you actually mean?
[17:51] <AlanBell> do you want to go poking about into the address space of other processes?
[17:51] <penguin42> no_name_brand: The address space of your current process or others?
[17:52] <no_name_brand> AlanBell, penguin42 : yes, the address space of processes.
[17:53] <penguin42> no_name_brand: The ptrace system call lets you do that, or you could script gdb!
[17:53] <AlanBell> I see crashes ahead. . . but while there's moonlight and music . . .
[17:55] <no_name_brand> penguin42: I'm not sure how scripting gdb could help me? Could you point me to something on that?
[17:55] <penguin42> no_name_brand: gdb can attach to an arbitrary process and access it's memory - it uses ptrace to do it
[17:56] <penguin42> no_name_brand: But please go back and explain what you're actually trying to do
[17:58] <daubers> AlanBell: We could always arrange some kind of location rotating meetup
[17:58] <no_name_brand> penguin42: ahh! So by the way, when I'm googling/discussing this stuff, I shouldn't use terms like "virtual memory" but more like "accessing address space"? What I'm trying to do is this: I have a program which uses my RAM to store certain pieces of data as it's working - I'd like to see what it's storing on RAM, search for specific values of data (and their corresponding addresses), and then choose to modify them if I'd lik
[17:59] <no_name_brand> I used to do this a lot for cheating in games on Windows, but right now I'm doing it for work - someone has written a closed source program that I can't easily tie into :p
[17:59] <no_name_brand> So I'm sort of familiar with what I'd do on Windows, but not on linux.
[18:00] <AlanBell> yeah, virtual memory is more what we would call swap space
[18:00] <AlanBell> DMA perhaps
[18:00] <czajkowski> no_name_brand: you might find more help tbh in a #python channel if it's python related tbh
[18:00] <penguin42> no_name_brand: So if it's the address space of one process then just use gdb to do that - it's scriptable in python
[18:00] <czajkowski> nt trying to put you off being here
[18:00] <AlanBell> direct memory access, memory mapped files, address space, peek and poke would all be terms to try
[18:01] <czajkowski> but there would be a lot more python ddevelopers there to help you
[18:01] <czajkowski> daubers: aye some of the lug folks meet up on a Thursday evening for drinks
[18:01] <no_name_brand> penguin42: Great! I'll look into that then!
[18:01] <no_name_brand> czajkowski: Well, yeah, penguin42 pretty much answered my question though, so no worries.
[18:01] <czajkowski> daubers: we all know to poke each other on the thursday morning to pick the pub later that event
[18:01] <czajkowski> no_name_brand: no worries
[18:02] <moreati> no_name_brand: you can find a lot of info about a process in /prc/<pid>, including aa complete in memory image. No ide if you can write to it though
[18:02] <AlanBell> so a weekday evening pub night might work
[18:03] <daubers> I could probably do one of those a month, location depending :)
[18:03] <czajkowski> aye sure we can give it a go
[18:03] <czajkowski> cant hurt to try
[18:03] <AlanBell> yup
[18:04] <AlanBell> so lets try that for a few months
[18:04] <czajkowski> ideally a place that has reasonable priced food close to decent transportation and oddly enough free wifi works well
[18:05] <AlanBell> in London, or maybe rotating round the M25? or further out?
[18:05] <daubers> AlanBell: I'd do one in London and one outside somewhere
[18:06] <daubers> Then rotate thatway and maybe rotate the somewhere
[18:06] <czajkowski> well August is going to be busy
[18:06] <AlanBell> do we care about trains or is parking a bigger deal?
[18:06] <czajkowski> maybe late august
[18:06] <czajkowski> the idea being to keep the events regular so people can make one and skip the next or vice versa
[18:07] <daubers> Maybe do something like Basingstoke/London/Reading/London/Oxford/London or somesuch
[18:07] <AlanBell> that sounds good
[18:07] <AlanBell> Woking would work too
[18:07] <daubers> Get less "Things never happen near me" complaints that way :)
[18:07] <AlanBell> as a train hub
[18:08] <daubers> yup
[18:08] <BigRedS> don't train places normally also have parking?
[18:08] <AlanBell> what other train hubs are there?
[18:08]  * BigRedS rides a motorbike, I've never been that interested in either...
[18:08] <czajkowski> guilford
[18:09] <AlanBell> BigRedS: town centre pubs sometimes don't have car parks
[18:09] <AlanBell> or anywhere I would want to park my car
[18:09] <daubers> Bristol?
[18:09] <BigRedS> yeah, I figured the stations were likely to
[18:09] <daubers> Swindon
[18:09] <AlanBell> BigRedS: ah, see what you mean
[18:09] <Azelphur> Anyone happen to know if there's a python library for easy access to all the microblogging services? eg twitter, identi.ca, so on so fourth.
[18:10] <AlanBell> Azelphur: is there a libgwibber or scriptable bit of it perhaps?
[18:10] <AlanBell> !info libgwibber
[18:11] <AlanBell> https://launchpad.net/gwibber/libgwibber
[18:11] <Azelphur> AlanBell: not sure what language gwibber is written in tbh :P
[18:11] <BigRedS> python
[18:11] <Azelphur> oh fun
[18:11] <BigRedS> everything's written in python these days; it's the new C
[18:11] <BigRedS> except the cool things. Those are written in Perl
[18:11] <AlanBell> it is the new BASIC actually
[18:12] <BigRedS> haha, yeah
[18:12]  * Azelphur looks around to try and figure out how it works
[18:12] <AlanBell> but you don't have to  be embarrassed about it
[18:12] <BigRedS> it's Linux' VB but actually a good programming language
[18:13] <Azelphur> Indeed, Python is awesome now :)
[18:13] <Azelphur> there isn't a lot you can't do with it
[18:21] <suprengr> I have had some [small] experience in Perl scripting... is Pyhton actually close enough to be recognisable?
[18:21] <Azelphur> lol if there is a library for python, it's not documented anywhere
[18:21] <suprengr> *Python
[18:24] <BigRedS> suprengr: lots of perly people find Python abhorrent for a while and then learn to love it
[18:24] <BigRedS> I remain unconvinced, but I *like* line-noise and braces :)
[18:25] <suprengr> that's what I call an honest answer - thanks
[18:26]  * Azelphur hugs python
[18:26]  * suprengr hugs Azelphur ... & [I bet]  worries Azelphur 
[18:27]  * BigRedS tries to hug CPAN but it's just too big
[18:27] <Azelphur> xD
[18:27] <suprengr> ;D
[18:27] <Azelphur> that said I do wish I could figure out what on earth is going on with gwibber. :(
[18:27] <suprengr> ...& no I'm not!
[18:27] <Azelphur> I want to write shiny things :(
[18:29] <BigRedS> I've spent most of today knee-deep in a module. It's not very good for a getting-to-the-end-and-seeing-what-you-achieved sort of buzz :(
[18:33] <suprengr> Azelphur, you mean http://tinyurl.com/3sdxldb ?
[18:34] <Azelphur> suprengr: I mean with regards to libgwibber :P
[18:34] <suprengr> oh
[18:37] <MartijnVdS> o/ everone :-)
[18:38]  * suprengr reckons Azelphur is now checking out Gwibber 3.1 ;)
[18:38]  * Azelphur is talking to the folks in #gwibber and found out it has a dbus interface which does what I want
[18:38] <Azelphur> :P
[18:38] <suprengr> o/ MartijnVdS
[18:39] <AlanBell> o/ MartijnVdS great to see you today
[18:42] <MartijnVdS> alanbell: did the kids ever end up trying the spread? :-)
[18:42] <AlanBell> they did, and they like it
[18:43] <AlanBell> little boy will try it tomorrow
[18:43] <daubers> o/
[18:43] <daubers> MartijnVdS: Was excellent to put a face to a name
[18:52] <daubers> AlanBell, MartijnVd, czajkowski http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdaubney/5971292906/in/photostream :)
[18:54] <czajkowski> daubers: :)
[18:57] <daubers> Not taken the ones off my phone yet
[18:59] <suprengr> So there I am - logged into Launchpad... can I find a way to create Wiki page - nah!
[19:00] <czajkowski> suprengr: are you on wiki.ubuntu.com by any chance
[19:03] <suprengr> czajkowski, in launchpad homepage for self (https://launchpad.net/~suprengr). looked in wiki.ubuntu.com  tna
[19:03] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/suprengr
[19:03] <AlanBell> see the "create new empty page" link
[19:04] <czajkowski> suprengr: yes but you dont create a wiki page on lp......
[19:04] <suprengr> AlanBell, cheers
[19:04] <czajkowski> suprengr: yes but you dont create a wiki page on lp......
[19:05] <suprengr> [I was confused simply because there used to be in launchpad... now gone]
[19:05] <suprengr> *a link in...
[19:05] <czajkowski> why are you speaking in [ ]  brackets
[19:05] <AlanBell> {braces are more fun}
[19:06] <suprengr> [because sometimes that's how how I like to]  :D
[19:06] <suprengr> {}
[19:06] <czajkowski> suprengr: were you on irc about a year ago with a different nick with john in it
[19:07] <suprengr> czajkowski, most definitely not guiltyt... no
[19:07] <czajkowski> ok
[19:09] <suprengr> unless, of course, this 'john' has a £1.000.000 waiting to be collected!
[19:16] <suprengr> just went to  "create new empty page" on Ubuntu Wiki & got: "You are not allowed to edit this page. " Now that's what I call an insult!
[19:17] <AlanBell> are you logged into the wiki?
[19:19] <suprengr> AlanBell, i *was* but it seems to be acting as if I'm not... time to close browser & start again methinks...
[19:32] <suprengr> yea gads that was a fight!  got there at last - it put put up a fight but suprengr  won in the end - on wiki page ready to edit ... hardly seems worth the effort after that!
[19:38] <justinBUJITSUBRO> hello from belize i am havaing a real problem ( ihave an infantile understanding of ubuntu) i hope somone can help
[19:39] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:39] <justinBUJITSUBRO> anyone recocnize this i ched foroms but i didnot understand them
[19:40] <daubers> justinBUJITSUBRO: can you pastebin the entire output please?
[19:40] <daubers> !pastebin
[19:41] <errordeveloper> justinBUJITSUBRO: certainly that's a problem with you network connection set-up
[19:41] <justinBUJITSUBRO> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 332E82B0E94D1E5CGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 332E82B0E94D1E5CGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public ke
[19:41] <justinBUJITSUBRO> y is not available: NO_PUBKEY D0AFF96872D340A3Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:41] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.freecontrib.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:41] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (34.52.53.34). - connect (110: Connection timed out)
[19:41] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:41] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:41] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:41] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <Azelphur> !pastebin | justinBUJITSUBRO
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <Azelphur> lol
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <czajkowski> toodles/msg chanserv op #ubuntu-uk
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:42] <czajkowski> grrrrr
[19:42] <Azelphur> don't think a kick was required for that, was just user error :)
[19:43] <Azelphur> +b for 10 seconds would have fixed it :p
[19:43] <czajkowski> Azelphur: couldnt stop him pasting
[19:43] <czajkowski> Azelphur: well i'm kinda in the middle of my dinner
[19:43] <Azelphur> *shrug*
[19:43] <czajkowski> and nobody else around
[19:43] <czajkowski> less lecturing :)
[19:43] <czajkowski> thanks
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/main/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/universe/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <czajkowski> justinBUJITSUBRO: will you stop s[pamming please
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <czajkowski> justinBUJITSUBRO: stop it
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <errordeveloper> justinBUJITSUBRO: dude, stop flooding the channel!
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <suprengr> go for it czajkowski
[19:44] <czajkowski> Azelphur: still happy
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <Azelphur> +b is still all that's required
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/main/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:44] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:45] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/universe/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:45] <Azelphur> the only reason it's continuing is because of sendq :)
[19:45] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:45] <DJones> czajkowski: Set a quiet
[19:45] <czajkowski> justinBUJITSUBRO: will you pelase stop it
[19:45] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:45] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving '....archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:45] <czajkowski> justinBUJITSUBRO: please stop pasting that
[19:45] <czajkowski> it's not helpful
[19:45] <czajkowski> and you are spamming the channel
[19:45] <czajkowski> justinBUJITSUBRO: I shall unmute the channel, please do not paste that again
[19:46] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to connect to packages.freecontrib.org:http:
[19:46] <Azelphur> czajkowski: he isn't actually doing anything, this is basic IRC stuff, when you send a large paste, the IRC network slows it right down as a flood limitation thing, he's already sent those messages, the network is relaying them slowly, there's absolutely nothing he can do to stop it.
[19:46] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to connect to packages.freecontrib.org:http:
[19:46] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[19:46] <justinBUJITSUBRO> that is the enier list or "output " i thnik
[19:46] <justinBUJITSUBRO> wahoo that was fun never been kicked b4 by the way wasnt spaming an i said that i have an infintel understandtin
[19:46] <Azelphur> there you go, see?
[19:46] <justinBUJITSUBRO> i closed out several thing just now hope it helped
[19:46] <justinBUJITSUBRO>  by the way i am in belize the isp suck huge
[19:47] <Azelphur> all you need to do in situations like that is just +b for a few minutes until the network has finished staggering the paste, hehe
[19:47] <czajkowski> Azelphur: next time call ops so
[19:47] <czajkowski> i did what i knew
[19:47] <czajkowski> ok
[19:47] <justinBUJITSUBRO> xchat url scraper waht ever the hell that is sitll is up doint know how to get ride of it
[19:47] <Azelphur> justinBUJITSUBRO: yea, it's stopped now, use www.pastebin.com for large pastes in future :)
[19:47] <Azelphur> czajkowski: np, just so you know for next time :D
[19:47] <czajkowski> Azelphur: fine
[19:48] <Azelphur> justinBUJITSUBRO: that's a problem with your internet connection though, it's saying that it can't resolve the domains
[19:48] <errordeveloper> there should be an xchat plugin to redirect any pastes to a pastebin site
[19:48] <justinBUJITSUBRO> did any one see waht i was talking a bout w. my problem somone said is was a ntwork prblem
[19:48] <Azelphur> it's highly likely your DNS server, or entire internet connection is down
[19:48] <errordeveloper> justinBUJITSUBRO: oh god, sure we did
[19:48] <justinBUJITSUBRO> lol
[19:49] <Azelphur> or that your DNS server is blocking that domain
[19:49] <justinBUJITSUBRO> sorry
[19:49] <errordeveloper> justinBUJITSUBRO: and I gave you one suggestion already
[19:49] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok i chech hist. of chat
[19:49] <errordeveloper> justinBUJITSUBRO: ping  91.189.88.40
[19:49] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok yea yousai network set up
[19:50] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok soory but how do i ping?
[19:50] <errordeveloper> and don't even try to paste any ping output, for god sake, lol.
[19:50] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok cool i wont
[19:51] <Azelphur> lol
[19:52] <justinBUJITSUBRO> i got the error message after trying to reload synaptic never really seen it were it couldnt find host name
[19:53] <justinBUJITSUBRO> will you tell me how to " ping  91.189.88.40" please
[19:54] <BigRedS> justinBUJITSUBRO: open a terminal
[19:54] <BigRedS> and type
[19:54] <BigRedS> ping -c 5 91.189.88.40
[19:55] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok will do
[19:55] <BigRedS> It'll 'ping' 5 times, then produce some statistics, and give you your prompt back
[19:55]  * BigRedS wanders off, so I'm afraid whoever told you to do that will have to tell you what to do with the output, sorry
[19:56] <justinBUJITSUBRO> 5 transmitted 5 recived
[19:56] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok thanks
[19:58] <Azelphur> justinBUJITSUBRO: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dig packages.freecontrib.org | pastebinit
[19:59] <Azelphur> run that in a terminal and give me the paste.ubuntu.com link it gives you :)
[19:59] <Azelphur> thinking sanely, I bet that won't work because you can't contact the server to install pastebinit
[19:59] <Azelphur> \o/
[20:00] <Azelphur> !private | justinBUJITSUBRO
[20:01] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok i just tried what azelphur just said to me
[20:01] <justinBUJITSUBRO> and this is what i got
[20:01] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:01] <Azelphur> close synaptic package manager or the update tool
[20:01] <Azelphur> or anything else that might be open like that
[20:01] <justinBUJITSUBRO> now i am really lost i have never had this problem
[20:02] <justinBUJITSUBRO> haha i told you i was dumb that i closed synaptic
[20:02] <Azelphur> :)
[20:02] <justinBUJITSUBRO> its working
[20:03] <daubers> woot, nslu2+cups == printer working on wifes win xp machine :)
[20:03] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok i belive it is don
[20:03] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Setting up pastebinit (1.1-1) ...
[20:03] <justinBUJITSUBRO> http://pastebin.com/aE2aqDE
[20:03] <justinBUJITSUBRO> that the last lines
[20:04] <justinBUJITSUBRO> what to do now?
[20:04] <popey> thats not a valid pastebin id
[20:04] <popey> probably blocked due to it containing lots of URLs
[20:04] <popey> so it looks like spam
[20:06] <justinBUJITSUBRO> Setting up pastebinit (1.1-1) ...
[20:06] <justinBUJITSUBRO> http://pastebin.com/aE2aqDE9
[20:06] <justinBUJITSUBRO>  
[20:06] <justinBUJITSUBRO> sorry i mised the 9 at the end
[20:06] <justinBUJITSUBRO> is that better?
[20:06] <justinBUJITSUBRO> or still a thing bad
[20:06] <popey> uhm
[20:07] <popey> your sources list has packages.freecontrib.org
[20:07] <popey> should it not be package.freecontrib.org ?
[20:07] <popey> (no s)
[20:08] <BigRedS> their site says it should have the s. I think
[20:08] <popey> ok
[20:08] <popey> its their site thats broken then
[20:08] <BigRedS> Oh wait, that's a post from 2006
[20:08] <popey> why is someone using that url anyway?
[20:09] <popey> justinBUJITSUBRO: can you "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" please?
[20:09] <justinBUJITSUBRO> not real shure of what has happend  all iknow is that when i hit reload on synaptic i got a message sataing for almost all my sources saying that the program count find host name
[20:09] <justinBUJITSUBRO> sorry popey how do i do that?
[20:09] <popey> type the command in a terminal
[20:09] <popey> pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:10] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok will do
[20:10] <justinBUJITSUBRO> i dont know if that worked but i think so
[20:11] <justinBUJITSUBRO> it gave me this ..http://pastebin.com/JdZ8XJvj
[20:11] <popey> deb http://....archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security main restricted universe multiverse
[20:11] <popey> that looks broken
[20:12] <popey> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[20:12] <popey> should not be there
[20:12] <BigRedS> #
[20:12] <BigRedS> #
[20:12] <popey> you're on Ubuntu 10.04 right?
[20:12] <BigRedS> oop
[20:12] <justinBUJITSUBRO> yes sir
[20:12] <Azelphur> haha http://....
[20:12] <Azelphur> that's broked o.O
[20:12] <justinBUJITSUBRO> iam w8ing to upgrade just dont know how
[20:13] <popey> ok, one moment
[20:13] <justinBUJITSUBRO> i think i have to w8 till the next lts version
[20:14] <Azelphur> justinBUJITSUBRO: system > administration > software sources > updates > change the dropdown box at the bottom to show normal releases :)
[20:14] <popey> hang on Azelphur
[20:14] <popey> lets get his sources fixed first
[20:14] <Azelphur> but you will need to fix your sources.list first before updating
[20:14] <Azelphur> yep :P
[20:14] <popey> which I am doing right now
[20:14] <Azelphur> so listen to popey then do that in summary lol
[20:16] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok
[20:17] <justinBUJITSUBRO> but dont i have to w8 till 2013 whent the next lts comes out?
[20:17] <popey> next LTS is April 2012
[20:17] <popey> right, I've tidied up your sources.list...
[20:17] <justinBUJITSUBRO> oh ok sorry
[20:17] <popey> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YzX1VEQA
[20:17] <popey> so what I would do is the following commands:-
[20:18] <popey> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[20:18] <popey> exactly like that
[20:18] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok il doit
[20:18] <popey> let me know when done and I'll give the next command
[20:19] <justinBUJITSUBRO> yes sir i am ready for the next one
[20:20] <popey> wget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YzX1VEQA -O ~/sources.list.new
[20:21] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok..
[20:21] <justinBUJITSUBRO> 2011-07-24 14:20:38 (2.74 MB/s) - `/home/justin/sources.list.new' saved [1298]
[20:21] <popey> excellent
[20:21] <popey> next line:-
[20:21] <justinBUJITSUBRO> thats waht i got
[20:21] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok
[20:21] <popey> sudo cp ~/sources.list.new /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:22] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok i did the sudo cp
[20:22] <popey> ok
[20:22] <popey> sudo apt-get update
[20:22] <popey> shouldn't error
[20:23] <popey> be right back
[20:23] <daubers> bah nslu2 is too slow for a postcript printer server :(
[20:23] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok
[20:23]  * daubers repurposes the revo
[20:23] <StevenR> daubers: I'm wondering about sorting my parents out with a revo for a myth box
[20:25] <justinBUJITSUBRO> what is the protocol for pasteing large out puts ?
[20:26] <popey> justinBUJITSUBRO: apt-get update | pastebinit
[20:26] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok
[20:27] <justinBUJITSUBRO> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[20:27] <justinBUJITSUBRO> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[20:27] <popey> ah sorry
[20:28] <popey> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[20:28] <justinBUJITSUBRO> tried that too and got ..justin@Jah-love:~$ sudo You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[20:29] <popey> odd, works here
[20:30] <justinBUJITSUBRO> i just did it by typing and it seems to work now
[20:30] <justinBUJITSUBRO> here we go...http://pastebin.com/cRBXWxZY
[20:30] <daubers> stupid routers
[20:31] <popey> justinBUJITSUBRO: looks better
[20:32] <justinBUJITSUBRO> ok yes it does thatnks in major part to you all i did was copy and past when i do synaptic i get 3 GPG errors
[20:33] <justinBUJITSUBRO> one for medi buntu and 3 for ppa launchpad lucid
[20:33] <justinBUJITSUBRO> 2 for ppa sorry
[20:34] <justinBUJITSUBRO> i am not shure if this is a widely known fact but here in belize things like skype is block
[20:38] <justinBUJITSUBRO> also i cant get certain content like radio stations cause "sorry this content is not avaiable in your area due to reguatory ristriction"
[20:38] <justinBUJITSUBRO> i got that form "player.streamtheworld.com/_players/citadel/?sid=3003&nid"
[20:42] <justinBUJITSUBRO> thank you to those that have helped me today "popey"  "BigRedS" and "Azelphur"
[20:42] <Azelphur> yw :)
[20:50] <BigRedS> er, no probs :)
[20:57] <Azelphur> oh in other news, I got another screen, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/July%202011/IMG_20110724_215511.jpg
[20:58] <Azelphur> the little keypad on the left has a screen too :-)
[21:02] <BigRedS> Surely you're looking at the game, not the keyboard? :)
[21:03] <Azelphur> BigRedS: yea, the extra buttons are handy :)
[21:44] <exobuzz> going to install ubuntu on my mothers pc. had enough of removing all the malware.
[21:45] <exobuzz> also giving her unity as a punishment (j/k)
[21:49] <BigRedS> haha
[21:50] <WorMzy> That poor woman
[21:50] <WorMzy> :P
[22:13] <exobuzz> ;-)
[22:13] <suprengr> time for bed said Zebedee... cheers & goodnight to all
[22:13] <exobuzz> the only get out clause she has depends on her printer model. if it isnt well supported, i might reconsider
[22:14] <AlanBell> printers tend to be quite well supported
[22:15] <AlanBell> bits of some multi-functional devices are the weak point
[22:16] <exobuzz> yeh
[22:16] <exobuzz> although she has a canon pixma and they can be annoying from past experience
[22:18] <exobuzz> seems there is a driver. well im not going to try and clean her vista install again anyway, so if it doesnt work, ill install windows later on if needed
[22:54] <Guest40878> jo
[22:54] <Guest40878> hi
[22:55] <Guest40878> any having trouble with a magic trackpad
[22:55] <Guest40878> ?