/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/25/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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bambeemorning08:12
Quintasanmorning08:37
agateauhey, I just noticed kdevelop fails to start on oneiric if kate is not installed. I guess there is a missing dependency on katepart. Is this a known problem?09:02
jussiapachelogger: ping!!09:11
yofelagateau: yes it is, although it seems current katepart isn't quite enough either without kate, haven't debugged it enough yet09:48
agateauyofel: ok, good to know you are on it09:48
ryanakcaI don't have access to an oneiric box at the moment, would someone be willing to merge/sync bangarang 2.0.1-1 from Debian unstable?10:35
jussiwhere is apachelogger!!!? :(10:52
Quintasandurrrr10:54
Quintasancheapest accomodation in Berlin looks promising, but when you convert euros to zloty then you go DURRRRRRRRRR10:55
jussiQuintasan: awww11:03
QuintasanWhen you need money, you don't have, when you don't really need it you have a fuckton of it11:03
nigelbQuintasan: are you headed to DS?11:05
nigelbjussi: ^11:05
jussino11:05
Quintasannigelb: looking at accomodation11:05
Quintasanderpy prices are derpy11:05
* jussi is not going to any conferences or summits anymore this year11:05
nigelbjussi: UDS?11:05
jussinigelb: no11:05
nigelbjussi: oh :(11:05
nigelbjussi: work? family?11:06
jussinigelb: I have a heavily pregnant wife ;)11:06
nigelbjussi: Congrats :)11:06
jussinigelb: you are _so_ behind the times11:06
nigelbjussi: Yeah :(11:06
nigelbI ended up missing thsi channel on my auto-join list.11:06
nigelbBesides, we tend to talk when you want to test voice calls :P11:07
jussilol11:07
ScottKNightrose: Good luck finding someone reasonable to talk to about the Systemsetting thing.11:10
NightroseScottK: heh thx - let's see who pops up...11:10
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yofelagateau: the problem seems to have been that the katepart.desktop file got left in kate, should work once the 4.7 packages are up12:06
agateauyofel: great, thanks!12:06
ScottKdidrocks: I have a proposal I'd like to discuss with you when you have a moment.12:10
didrocksScottK: sure, is in 15 minutes ok?12:10
ScottKYes12:10
didrocksScottK: sorry for the delay, are you available now?13:13
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shadeslayerso, i have this patch against kstars right now : http://cl.ly/40342U3Y2c3y2Z3R1L2L14:47
shadeslayercould someone review it ^^14:49
shadeslayerbefore i send it off to upstream14:49
Riddellpackaging guide KDE chapter for review https://code.launchpad.net/~jr/ubuntu-packaging-guide/kde/+merge/6909714:58
shadeslayerRiddell: "If they have not check if" -> "If they don't, check if"  ... or something like that15:03
Riddelldone15:04
shadeslayerRiddell: line 84, missing a 'to' at the end15:05
shadeslayeror rather 'need to be reuploaded'15:05
Riddellreads ok to me15:05
Riddellbut ok, changed15:06
shadeslayerreally up to your discretion, but looks fine apart from that :D15:07
debfxRiddell: "dh --with=kde" should be "dh $@ --with=kde"15:09
Riddelloh aye, fixed15:09
debfxand my guess is that maybe 1/10 of our patches comply with that patching policy ;)15:11
Riddelloh I don't think so, if you discount the ones from Debian15:21
ScottKdidrocks: I'm back.15:28
didrocksScottK: wb :)15:28
ScottKdidrocks: I'm working on Kubuntu CD size and currently we are shipping gtk2 and gtk3 due to appmenu.  See http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.oneiric/desktop15:29
didrocksScottK: argh, indeed… hum, why do you ship appmenu btw?15:30
ScottKWe are shipping appmenu-gkt/3 so that it will just work for gtk apps that users install.15:30
didrocksright, but you don't ship the indicator by default to strip the menu, isn't it?15:30
ScottKActually I think it would be good for Ubuntu desktop to do the same for the Qt appmenu15:30
ScottKWe do for netbooks15:30
didrocksah ok, makes sense then15:31
ScottKWhat I'd like to do though is have those packages drop their dependency on gtk/gtk3.15:31
didrockshum, I think we ship qt appmenu, I never checked, but I did it for sni-qt15:31
ScottKOK15:31
ScottKI did this recently for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2-engines-oxygen/15:31
ScottKThe reason why I think it's reasonable is that appmenu won't ever do anything if some other application that uses gtk/gtk3 doesn't get installed and pull it in that way.15:32
ScottKMy goal is to get one or both of gtk2/3 off our CD.15:32
didrocksScottK: I think it's reasonable to assume that, we can still put it as suggest, but avoiding having it brough by shibs totally makes sense15:34
ScottKYes.15:34
didrockslet me talk with ken, one sec15:34
ScottKThanks.15:34
ScottKdidrocks: I just checked and you're right, you do have dbusmenu-qt seeded for ubuntu-desktop.15:35
didrocksScottK: but we don't have your issue as we now have Qt by default :-)15:36
ScottKRight.15:36
ScottKIf you didn't, then I would do the same for dbusmenu-qt.15:37
ScottKerr appmenu-qt15:37
didrocksScottK: maybe that can be useful for other flavors? let's imagine xubuntu, if they are interested some day?15:38
ScottKGood point.15:38
didrocksok, ken is ok, I'll do it :)15:38
ScottKI'll do appmenu-qt. 15:39
ScottKThanks.15:39
didrocksexcellent, thanks!15:39
didrocksok, appmenu-gtk2/3 done, doing the same with dbusmenu now15:50
jussisigh... still no apachelogger? :(15:53
shadeslayerjussi: ssup :)15:55
jussishadeslayer: hi, I need an apachelogger!!!15:55
jussi*grumble*15:55
* shadeslayer fetches his lasso15:55
ScottKappmenu-qt done.16:02
ScottKFor a moment there I thought shadeslayer said he was going to fetch a mango lassi.16:03
shadeslayerunfourtunately the season of mangoes is long gone :(16:03
didrockspeaches are nice though, and it's the season! :-)16:06
muntiKubunoticed the back button is gone in kmenu>applications?16:30
muntiKubuis this a feature?16:30
muntiKubufor 4.7?16:31
yofelfeature afaik16:33
muntiKubuit's bad for me if you are just browsing. 16:34
yofelthere's a dolphin like navigation bar at the top now16:34
yofelyou can go back there16:34
muntiKubuoh.. didn't see that.. thanks16:35
jussi<3 lancelot ;)16:35
yofel<3 krunner ;)16:35
muntiKubukinda small fonts and looks greyed out to me :(16:37
yofelgrey here too, but I'm using product as plasma theme which is dark16:37
yofel*produkt16:37
muntiKububeen used to that 'rev-arrow' on the left sidebar..hehe16:37
apacheloggerjussi: oggy oggy oggy16:38
yofelI only know it since someone else mentioned it. I don't use kickoff enough ^^16:38
muntiKubuam I missing something nice other than kmenu?16:40
muntiKubuis there 'kubuntu exclusive' launcher to set it apart from other kde-distro?16:42
apacheloggersure, ours is not broken by patches :P16:43
yofelheh, there's the kubuntu logo in kickoff, but that should be all16:43
debfxwe also have kubuntu_19_always_show_kickoff_subtext.diff and kubuntu_93_fix_username_icon_alignment.diff16:44
apacheloggerdebfx: latter actually is a fix, which reminds me16:51
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: why is that not upstreamed exactly?16:51
apacheloggerI know you had a review request for it at some point16:51
yofelapachelogger: was looking - the review got forgotten https://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/870/16:52
shadeslayerugh svn16:52
yofelshadeslayer: that's 2 years old 16:53
apacheloggerarent we supposed to do patch reviews :P16:56
yofeltalking about misalignment, the search bar is totally misaligned here (looks so at least) http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/koff.png17:02
apacheloggermust be a sizepolicy issue17:03
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mgraesslinapachelogger: ping17:52
mgraesslinapachelogger: consider I could create a constant stream of QImages - how difficult would it be to create a video out of it?17:52
apacheloggermgraesslin: qpainter.drawImage(qimg)17:56
apacheloggermgraesslin: why qimage though?17:56
mgraesslinbecause I have no idea about multimedia :-P17:57
mgraesslinwhat I can get is a GL Texture and I want to get a video out of it17:57
apacheloggergltexture owns qimage any time17:57
mgraesslinand how do I convert a stream of textures into a video?17:58
apacheloggerthe thing is, particularly with qtquick2 and the qt scene graph one would want a gltexture rather than a qimage17:58
apacheloggermgraesslin: as in encoding to file?17:58
mgraesslinyes17:58
apacheloggermgraesslin: depends on the library you use for encoding17:59
mgraesslinok, what options do I have there?17:59
apacheloggergstreamer and ffmpeg would be the most obvious choices18:00
mgraesslinand I can feed them a GL texture?18:00
apacheloggerno idea how you'd do that with ffmpeg but with gst you'd have to implement a pipeline source, to feed the texture into the pipeline18:00
apacheloggermgraesslin: gstreamer you can, it will try to negotiate a pipeline which can use your input data most efficiently18:01
mgraesslinok, consider I will present you a stub at desktop summit, will you do the multimedia parts to get a screencast effect in kwin?18:02
apacheloggerguess so18:03
apacheloggerthat said, phonon might take care of the encoding as we have encoding functionality on the todo18:03
apacheloggershould be sufficient for what is necessary for screencasts18:03
mgraesslinok, got to go18:07
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* afiestas just applied to UDS orlando, hope to see you there :)18:26
afiestasif not, I will have to follow via irc/streaming :p18:27
yofelhm, when's the deadline for applying?18:28
nigelbyofel: aug 15th I think18:29
* nigelb hasn't decided whether to apply or not yet.18:29
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yofelhm, August 24th, at least some time left...18:33
Quintasanapachelogger: ping19:05
Quintasanapachelogger: Y U NO PONG?20:13
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JontheEchidnaapachelogger: for always show subtext at least, aseigo unilaterally rejected it even though it had seele's backing.21:11
JontheEchidnaprobably some old mail thread on plasma-devel about that21:11
JontheEchidnaboth patches are seele-approved-but-not-upstreamed-due-to-philosophical-issues, I think21:12
JontheEchidnawell, maybe just nitpickiness on the alignment one21:13
* ScottK wonders what posseses Google+ to think Miguel de Icaza and I should be sharing with each other?21:21
nigelbScottK: lol21:30
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DarkwingDuckYes, I'm still alive. :P22:52
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negaduckNot for long... Duck22:53
negaduckLets Get Dangerous22:53
DarkwingDuckLOL22:53
DarkwingDuckThe worse part of being unemployed is having to decide what bills to pay and what ones to default on.22:55
negaduckhi bigbrovar23:02
negaduckDarkwingDuck: can you control the bills?23:02
bigbrovarnegaduck: hi23:02
DarkwingDuckI don't have money to pay for all of them each month.23:03
DarkwingDuckSo, my 3 kids come first.23:03
negaduckWell those are properly earned bills :)23:09
negaduckJust saying some things that may be nice stuff like Television diversity could be dispensed with ?23:10

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