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bambee | morning | 08:12 |
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Quintasan | morning | 08:37 |
agateau | hey, I just noticed kdevelop fails to start on oneiric if kate is not installed. I guess there is a missing dependency on katepart. Is this a known problem? | 09:02 |
jussi | apachelogger: ping!! | 09:11 |
yofel | agateau: yes it is, although it seems current katepart isn't quite enough either without kate, haven't debugged it enough yet | 09:48 |
agateau | yofel: ok, good to know you are on it | 09:48 |
ryanakca | I don't have access to an oneiric box at the moment, would someone be willing to merge/sync bangarang 2.0.1-1 from Debian unstable? | 10:35 |
jussi | where is apachelogger!!!? :( | 10:52 |
Quintasan | durrrr | 10:54 |
Quintasan | cheapest accomodation in Berlin looks promising, but when you convert euros to zloty then you go DURRRRRRRRRR | 10:55 |
jussi | Quintasan: awww | 11:03 |
Quintasan | When you need money, you don't have, when you don't really need it you have a fuckton of it | 11:03 |
nigelb | Quintasan: are you headed to DS? | 11:05 |
nigelb | jussi: ^ | 11:05 |
jussi | no | 11:05 |
Quintasan | nigelb: looking at accomodation | 11:05 |
Quintasan | derpy prices are derpy | 11:05 |
* jussi is not going to any conferences or summits anymore this year | 11:05 | |
nigelb | jussi: UDS? | 11:05 |
jussi | nigelb: no | 11:05 |
nigelb | jussi: oh :( | 11:05 |
nigelb | jussi: work? family? | 11:06 |
jussi | nigelb: I have a heavily pregnant wife ;) | 11:06 |
nigelb | jussi: Congrats :) | 11:06 |
jussi | nigelb: you are _so_ behind the times | 11:06 |
nigelb | jussi: Yeah :( | 11:06 |
nigelb | I ended up missing thsi channel on my auto-join list. | 11:06 |
nigelb | Besides, we tend to talk when you want to test voice calls :P | 11:07 |
jussi | lol | 11:07 |
ScottK | Nightrose: Good luck finding someone reasonable to talk to about the Systemsetting thing. | 11:10 |
Nightrose | ScottK: heh thx - let's see who pops up... | 11:10 |
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yofel | agateau: the problem seems to have been that the katepart.desktop file got left in kate, should work once the 4.7 packages are up | 12:06 |
agateau | yofel: great, thanks! | 12:06 |
ScottK | didrocks: I have a proposal I'd like to discuss with you when you have a moment. | 12:10 |
didrocks | ScottK: sure, is in 15 minutes ok? | 12:10 |
ScottK | Yes | 12:10 |
didrocks | ScottK: sorry for the delay, are you available now? | 13:13 |
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shadeslayer | so, i have this patch against kstars right now : http://cl.ly/40342U3Y2c3y2Z3R1L2L | 14:47 |
shadeslayer | could someone review it ^^ | 14:49 |
shadeslayer | before i send it off to upstream | 14:49 |
Riddell | packaging guide KDE chapter for review https://code.launchpad.net/~jr/ubuntu-packaging-guide/kde/+merge/69097 | 14:58 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: "If they have not check if" -> "If they don't, check if" ... or something like that | 15:03 |
Riddell | done | 15:04 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: line 84, missing a 'to' at the end | 15:05 |
shadeslayer | or rather 'need to be reuploaded' | 15:05 |
Riddell | reads ok to me | 15:05 |
Riddell | but ok, changed | 15:06 |
shadeslayer | really up to your discretion, but looks fine apart from that :D | 15:07 |
debfx | Riddell: "dh --with=kde" should be "dh $@ --with=kde" | 15:09 |
Riddell | oh aye, fixed | 15:09 |
debfx | and my guess is that maybe 1/10 of our patches comply with that patching policy ;) | 15:11 |
Riddell | oh I don't think so, if you discount the ones from Debian | 15:21 |
ScottK | didrocks: I'm back. | 15:28 |
didrocks | ScottK: wb :) | 15:28 |
ScottK | didrocks: I'm working on Kubuntu CD size and currently we are shipping gtk2 and gtk3 due to appmenu. See http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.oneiric/desktop | 15:29 |
didrocks | ScottK: argh, indeed… hum, why do you ship appmenu btw? | 15:30 |
ScottK | We are shipping appmenu-gkt/3 so that it will just work for gtk apps that users install. | 15:30 |
didrocks | right, but you don't ship the indicator by default to strip the menu, isn't it? | 15:30 |
ScottK | Actually I think it would be good for Ubuntu desktop to do the same for the Qt appmenu | 15:30 |
ScottK | We do for netbooks | 15:30 |
didrocks | ah ok, makes sense then | 15:31 |
ScottK | What I'd like to do though is have those packages drop their dependency on gtk/gtk3. | 15:31 |
didrocks | hum, I think we ship qt appmenu, I never checked, but I did it for sni-qt | 15:31 |
ScottK | OK | 15:31 |
ScottK | I did this recently for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2-engines-oxygen/ | 15:31 |
ScottK | The reason why I think it's reasonable is that appmenu won't ever do anything if some other application that uses gtk/gtk3 doesn't get installed and pull it in that way. | 15:32 |
ScottK | My goal is to get one or both of gtk2/3 off our CD. | 15:32 |
didrocks | ScottK: I think it's reasonable to assume that, we can still put it as suggest, but avoiding having it brough by shibs totally makes sense | 15:34 |
ScottK | Yes. | 15:34 |
didrocks | let me talk with ken, one sec | 15:34 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 15:34 |
ScottK | didrocks: I just checked and you're right, you do have dbusmenu-qt seeded for ubuntu-desktop. | 15:35 |
didrocks | ScottK: but we don't have your issue as we now have Qt by default :-) | 15:36 |
ScottK | Right. | 15:36 |
ScottK | If you didn't, then I would do the same for dbusmenu-qt. | 15:37 |
ScottK | err appmenu-qt | 15:37 |
didrocks | ScottK: maybe that can be useful for other flavors? let's imagine xubuntu, if they are interested some day? | 15:38 |
ScottK | Good point. | 15:38 |
didrocks | ok, ken is ok, I'll do it :) | 15:38 |
ScottK | I'll do appmenu-qt. | 15:39 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 15:39 |
didrocks | excellent, thanks! | 15:39 |
didrocks | ok, appmenu-gtk2/3 done, doing the same with dbusmenu now | 15:50 |
jussi | sigh... still no apachelogger? :( | 15:53 |
shadeslayer | jussi: ssup :) | 15:55 |
jussi | shadeslayer: hi, I need an apachelogger!!! | 15:55 |
jussi | *grumble* | 15:55 |
* shadeslayer fetches his lasso | 15:55 | |
ScottK | appmenu-qt done. | 16:02 |
ScottK | For a moment there I thought shadeslayer said he was going to fetch a mango lassi. | 16:03 |
shadeslayer | unfourtunately the season of mangoes is long gone :( | 16:03 |
didrocks | peaches are nice though, and it's the season! :-) | 16:06 |
muntiKubu | noticed the back button is gone in kmenu>applications? | 16:30 |
muntiKubu | is this a feature? | 16:30 |
muntiKubu | for 4.7? | 16:31 |
yofel | feature afaik | 16:33 |
muntiKubu | it's bad for me if you are just browsing. | 16:34 |
yofel | there's a dolphin like navigation bar at the top now | 16:34 |
yofel | you can go back there | 16:34 |
muntiKubu | oh.. didn't see that.. thanks | 16:35 |
jussi | <3 lancelot ;) | 16:35 |
yofel | <3 krunner ;) | 16:35 |
muntiKubu | kinda small fonts and looks greyed out to me :( | 16:37 |
yofel | grey here too, but I'm using product as plasma theme which is dark | 16:37 |
yofel | *produkt | 16:37 |
muntiKubu | been used to that 'rev-arrow' on the left sidebar..hehe | 16:37 |
apachelogger | jussi: oggy oggy oggy | 16:38 |
yofel | I only know it since someone else mentioned it. I don't use kickoff enough ^^ | 16:38 |
muntiKubu | am I missing something nice other than kmenu? | 16:40 |
muntiKubu | is there 'kubuntu exclusive' launcher to set it apart from other kde-distro? | 16:42 |
apachelogger | sure, ours is not broken by patches :P | 16:43 |
yofel | heh, there's the kubuntu logo in kickoff, but that should be all | 16:43 |
debfx | we also have kubuntu_19_always_show_kickoff_subtext.diff and kubuntu_93_fix_username_icon_alignment.diff | 16:44 |
apachelogger | debfx: latter actually is a fix, which reminds me | 16:51 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: why is that not upstreamed exactly? | 16:51 |
apachelogger | I know you had a review request for it at some point | 16:51 |
yofel | apachelogger: was looking - the review got forgotten https://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/870/ | 16:52 |
shadeslayer | ugh svn | 16:52 |
yofel | shadeslayer: that's 2 years old | 16:53 |
apachelogger | arent we supposed to do patch reviews :P | 16:56 |
yofel | talking about misalignment, the search bar is totally misaligned here (looks so at least) http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/koff.png | 17:02 |
apachelogger | must be a sizepolicy issue | 17:03 |
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mgraesslin | apachelogger: ping | 17:52 |
mgraesslin | apachelogger: consider I could create a constant stream of QImages - how difficult would it be to create a video out of it? | 17:52 |
apachelogger | mgraesslin: qpainter.drawImage(qimg) | 17:56 |
apachelogger | mgraesslin: why qimage though? | 17:56 |
mgraesslin | because I have no idea about multimedia :-P | 17:57 |
mgraesslin | what I can get is a GL Texture and I want to get a video out of it | 17:57 |
apachelogger | gltexture owns qimage any time | 17:57 |
mgraesslin | and how do I convert a stream of textures into a video? | 17:58 |
apachelogger | the thing is, particularly with qtquick2 and the qt scene graph one would want a gltexture rather than a qimage | 17:58 |
apachelogger | mgraesslin: as in encoding to file? | 17:58 |
mgraesslin | yes | 17:58 |
apachelogger | mgraesslin: depends on the library you use for encoding | 17:59 |
mgraesslin | ok, what options do I have there? | 17:59 |
apachelogger | gstreamer and ffmpeg would be the most obvious choices | 18:00 |
mgraesslin | and I can feed them a GL texture? | 18:00 |
apachelogger | no idea how you'd do that with ffmpeg but with gst you'd have to implement a pipeline source, to feed the texture into the pipeline | 18:00 |
apachelogger | mgraesslin: gstreamer you can, it will try to negotiate a pipeline which can use your input data most efficiently | 18:01 |
mgraesslin | ok, consider I will present you a stub at desktop summit, will you do the multimedia parts to get a screencast effect in kwin? | 18:02 |
apachelogger | guess so | 18:03 |
apachelogger | that said, phonon might take care of the encoding as we have encoding functionality on the todo | 18:03 |
apachelogger | should be sufficient for what is necessary for screencasts | 18:03 |
mgraesslin | ok, got to go | 18:07 |
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* afiestas just applied to UDS orlando, hope to see you there :) | 18:26 | |
afiestas | if not, I will have to follow via irc/streaming :p | 18:27 |
yofel | hm, when's the deadline for applying? | 18:28 |
nigelb | yofel: aug 15th I think | 18:29 |
* nigelb hasn't decided whether to apply or not yet. | 18:29 | |
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yofel | hm, August 24th, at least some time left... | 18:33 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: ping | 19:05 |
Quintasan | apachelogger: Y U NO PONG? | 20:13 |
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JontheEchidna | apachelogger: for always show subtext at least, aseigo unilaterally rejected it even though it had seele's backing. | 21:11 |
JontheEchidna | probably some old mail thread on plasma-devel about that | 21:11 |
JontheEchidna | both patches are seele-approved-but-not-upstreamed-due-to-philosophical-issues, I think | 21:12 |
JontheEchidna | well, maybe just nitpickiness on the alignment one | 21:13 |
* ScottK wonders what posseses Google+ to think Miguel de Icaza and I should be sharing with each other? | 21:21 | |
nigelb | ScottK: lol | 21:30 |
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DarkwingDuck | Yes, I'm still alive. :P | 22:52 |
=== Daskreech is now known as negaduck | ||
negaduck | Not for long... Duck | 22:53 |
negaduck | Lets Get Dangerous | 22:53 |
DarkwingDuck | LOL | 22:53 |
DarkwingDuck | The worse part of being unemployed is having to decide what bills to pay and what ones to default on. | 22:55 |
negaduck | hi bigbrovar | 23:02 |
negaduck | DarkwingDuck: can you control the bills? | 23:02 |
bigbrovar | negaduck: hi | 23:02 |
DarkwingDuck | I don't have money to pay for all of them each month. | 23:03 |
DarkwingDuck | So, my 3 kids come first. | 23:03 |
negaduck | Well those are properly earned bills :) | 23:09 |
negaduck | Just saying some things that may be nice stuff like Television diversity could be dispensed with ? | 23:10 |
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