=== freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [08:12] morning [08:37] morning [09:02] hey, I just noticed kdevelop fails to start on oneiric if kate is not installed. I guess there is a missing dependency on katepart. Is this a known problem? [09:11] apachelogger: ping!! [09:48] agateau: yes it is, although it seems current katepart isn't quite enough either without kate, haven't debugged it enough yet [09:48] yofel: ok, good to know you are on it [10:35] I don't have access to an oneiric box at the moment, would someone be willing to merge/sync bangarang 2.0.1-1 from Debian unstable? [10:52] where is apachelogger!!!? :( [10:54] durrrr [10:55] cheapest accomodation in Berlin looks promising, but when you convert euros to zloty then you go DURRRRRRRRRR [11:03] Quintasan: awww [11:03] When you need money, you don't have, when you don't really need it you have a fuckton of it [11:05] Quintasan: are you headed to DS? [11:05] jussi: ^ [11:05] no [11:05] nigelb: looking at accomodation [11:05] derpy prices are derpy [11:05] * jussi is not going to any conferences or summits anymore this year [11:05] jussi: UDS? [11:05] nigelb: no [11:05] jussi: oh :( [11:06] jussi: work? family? [11:06] nigelb: I have a heavily pregnant wife ;) [11:06] jussi: Congrats :) [11:06] nigelb: you are _so_ behind the times [11:06] jussi: Yeah :( [11:06] I ended up missing thsi channel on my auto-join list. [11:07] Besides, we tend to talk when you want to test voice calls :P [11:07] lol [11:10] Nightrose: Good luck finding someone reasonable to talk to about the Systemsetting thing. [11:10] ScottK: heh thx - let's see who pops up... === tazz_ is now known as tazz [12:06] agateau: the problem seems to have been that the katepart.desktop file got left in kate, should work once the 4.7 packages are up [12:06] yofel: great, thanks! [12:10] didrocks: I have a proposal I'd like to discuss with you when you have a moment. [12:10] ScottK: sure, is in 15 minutes ok? [12:10] Yes [13:13] ScottK: sorry for the delay, are you available now? === bipolar_ is now known as Bipolar [14:47] so, i have this patch against kstars right now : http://cl.ly/40342U3Y2c3y2Z3R1L2L [14:49] could someone review it ^^ [14:49] before i send it off to upstream [14:58] packaging guide KDE chapter for review https://code.launchpad.net/~jr/ubuntu-packaging-guide/kde/+merge/69097 [15:03] Riddell: "If they have not check if" -> "If they don't, check if" ... or something like that [15:04] done [15:05] Riddell: line 84, missing a 'to' at the end [15:05] or rather 'need to be reuploaded' [15:05] reads ok to me [15:06] but ok, changed [15:07] really up to your discretion, but looks fine apart from that :D [15:09] Riddell: "dh --with=kde" should be "dh $@ --with=kde" [15:09] oh aye, fixed [15:11] and my guess is that maybe 1/10 of our patches comply with that patching policy ;) [15:21] oh I don't think so, if you discount the ones from Debian [15:28] didrocks: I'm back. [15:28] ScottK: wb :) [15:29] didrocks: I'm working on Kubuntu CD size and currently we are shipping gtk2 and gtk3 due to appmenu. See http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.oneiric/desktop [15:30] ScottK: argh, indeed… hum, why do you ship appmenu btw? [15:30] We are shipping appmenu-gkt/3 so that it will just work for gtk apps that users install. [15:30] right, but you don't ship the indicator by default to strip the menu, isn't it? [15:30] Actually I think it would be good for Ubuntu desktop to do the same for the Qt appmenu [15:30] We do for netbooks [15:31] ah ok, makes sense then [15:31] What I'd like to do though is have those packages drop their dependency on gtk/gtk3. [15:31] hum, I think we ship qt appmenu, I never checked, but I did it for sni-qt [15:31] OK [15:31] I did this recently for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2-engines-oxygen/ [15:32] The reason why I think it's reasonable is that appmenu won't ever do anything if some other application that uses gtk/gtk3 doesn't get installed and pull it in that way. [15:32] My goal is to get one or both of gtk2/3 off our CD. [15:34] ScottK: I think it's reasonable to assume that, we can still put it as suggest, but avoiding having it brough by shibs totally makes sense [15:34] Yes. [15:34] let me talk with ken, one sec [15:34] Thanks. [15:35] didrocks: I just checked and you're right, you do have dbusmenu-qt seeded for ubuntu-desktop. [15:36] ScottK: but we don't have your issue as we now have Qt by default :-) [15:36] Right. [15:37] If you didn't, then I would do the same for dbusmenu-qt. [15:37] err appmenu-qt [15:38] ScottK: maybe that can be useful for other flavors? let's imagine xubuntu, if they are interested some day? [15:38] Good point. [15:38] ok, ken is ok, I'll do it :) [15:39] I'll do appmenu-qt. [15:39] Thanks. [15:39] excellent, thanks! [15:50] ok, appmenu-gtk2/3 done, doing the same with dbusmenu now [15:53] sigh... still no apachelogger? :( [15:55] jussi: ssup :) [15:55] shadeslayer: hi, I need an apachelogger!!! [15:55] *grumble* [15:55] * shadeslayer fetches his lasso [16:02] appmenu-qt done. [16:03] For a moment there I thought shadeslayer said he was going to fetch a mango lassi. [16:03] unfourtunately the season of mangoes is long gone :( [16:06] peaches are nice though, and it's the season! :-) [16:30] noticed the back button is gone in kmenu>applications? [16:30] is this a feature? [16:31] for 4.7? [16:33] feature afaik [16:34] it's bad for me if you are just browsing. [16:34] there's a dolphin like navigation bar at the top now [16:34] you can go back there [16:35] oh.. didn't see that.. thanks [16:35] <3 lancelot ;) [16:35] <3 krunner ;) [16:37] kinda small fonts and looks greyed out to me :( [16:37] grey here too, but I'm using product as plasma theme which is dark [16:37] *produkt [16:37] been used to that 'rev-arrow' on the left sidebar..hehe [16:38] jussi: oggy oggy oggy [16:38] I only know it since someone else mentioned it. I don't use kickoff enough ^^ [16:40] am I missing something nice other than kmenu? [16:42] is there 'kubuntu exclusive' launcher to set it apart from other kde-distro? [16:43] sure, ours is not broken by patches :P [16:43] heh, there's the kubuntu logo in kickoff, but that should be all [16:44] we also have kubuntu_19_always_show_kickoff_subtext.diff and kubuntu_93_fix_username_icon_alignment.diff [16:51] debfx: latter actually is a fix, which reminds me [16:51] JontheEchidna: why is that not upstreamed exactly? [16:51] I know you had a review request for it at some point [16:52] apachelogger: was looking - the review got forgotten https://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/870/ [16:52] ugh svn [16:53] shadeslayer: that's 2 years old [16:56] arent we supposed to do patch reviews :P [17:02] talking about misalignment, the search bar is totally misaligned here (looks so at least) http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/koff.png [17:03] must be a sizepolicy issue === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [17:52] apachelogger: ping [17:52] apachelogger: consider I could create a constant stream of QImages - how difficult would it be to create a video out of it? [17:56] mgraesslin: qpainter.drawImage(qimg) [17:56] mgraesslin: why qimage though? [17:57] because I have no idea about multimedia :-P [17:57] what I can get is a GL Texture and I want to get a video out of it [17:57] gltexture owns qimage any time [17:58] and how do I convert a stream of textures into a video? [17:58] the thing is, particularly with qtquick2 and the qt scene graph one would want a gltexture rather than a qimage [17:58] mgraesslin: as in encoding to file? [17:58] yes [17:59] mgraesslin: depends on the library you use for encoding [17:59] ok, what options do I have there? [18:00] gstreamer and ffmpeg would be the most obvious choices [18:00] and I can feed them a GL texture? [18:00] no idea how you'd do that with ffmpeg but with gst you'd have to implement a pipeline source, to feed the texture into the pipeline [18:01] mgraesslin: gstreamer you can, it will try to negotiate a pipeline which can use your input data most efficiently [18:02] ok, consider I will present you a stub at desktop summit, will you do the multimedia parts to get a screencast effect in kwin? [18:03] guess so [18:03] that said, phonon might take care of the encoding as we have encoding functionality on the todo [18:03] should be sufficient for what is necessary for screencasts [18:07] ok, got to go === tazz_ is now known as tazz [18:26] * afiestas just applied to UDS orlando, hope to see you there :) [18:27] if not, I will have to follow via irc/streaming :p [18:28] hm, when's the deadline for applying? [18:29] yofel: aug 15th I think [18:29] * nigelb hasn't decided whether to apply or not yet. === tazz_ is now known as tazz [18:33] hm, August 24th, at least some time left... [19:05] apachelogger: ping [20:13] apachelogger: Y U NO PONG? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:11] apachelogger: for always show subtext at least, aseigo unilaterally rejected it even though it had seele's backing. [21:11] probably some old mail thread on plasma-devel about that [21:12] both patches are seele-approved-but-not-upstreamed-due-to-philosophical-issues, I think [21:13] well, maybe just nitpickiness on the alignment one [21:21] * ScottK wonders what posseses Google+ to think Miguel de Icaza and I should be sharing with each other? [21:30] ScottK: lol === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [22:52] Yes, I'm still alive. :P === Daskreech is now known as negaduck [22:53] Not for long... Duck [22:53] Lets Get Dangerous [22:53] LOL [22:55] The worse part of being unemployed is having to decide what bills to pay and what ones to default on. [23:02] hi bigbrovar [23:02] DarkwingDuck: can you control the bills? [23:02] negaduck: hi [23:03] I don't have money to pay for all of them each month. [23:03] So, my 3 kids come first. [23:09] Well those are properly earned bills :) [23:10] Just saying some things that may be nice stuff like Television diversity could be dispensed with ?