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gorillaWho's a moderator for the Ubuntu-Au mailing list?06:29
elkyhead_victim, myself and dns53.06:34
elkywe can't delete messages though, and you don't need one of us to be the one to tell a conversation to stop.06:35
gorillaelky: I was curious.06:39
gorillaThe concept of deleting emails after they have been sent is off. Kind of works with Exchange servers but only if your client handles the recall message propewrly.06:40
gorillas/off/odd/06:41
bradmExchange recall messages to mailing lists are fun06:42
gorillabradm: even internally they can be fun, especially if it's an email that was sensitive... quick send it to the printers before it gets deleted. :-P I didn't, others did though.06:53
bradmyeah, it always makes people think, "Now, what was in that email that they didn't want me to see"06:53
gorillaYep. It tends to be even more intriguing when there was no attachment.06:55
blahdeblahJust upgraded my first system to natty09:53
blahdeblahUgh - how do you stop the dock thingy from disappearing like that?09:53
blahdeblahDrives me crazy09:54
blahdeblahAnd let me guess - workrave is no longer supported in the notification area...09:56
blahdeblahWow.  The more i touch this interface, the more i hate it.09:59
head_victimblahdeblah: one of these days I'll actually get it on my main machine.10:02
head_victimI'm probably going to wait until 12.04 so it's a little more customisable though.10:02
blahdeblahThey've made a lot of UI choices that i think are pretty lame.10:03
blahdeblahAlmost makes me want to learn FreeBSD just so i can be a bit more retro.10:03
head_victimI don't mind it, the first thing I do though is make the side thingy (technical name there) as small as it will go for each icon.10:04
head_victimSo that it takes up less space and lets me show a few more things.10:04
head_victimI use conky for most of my status things anyway so panel applets aren't a big thing to me.10:05
head_victimAnd on that note, I have to be awake at 4am again so I'll bid you farewell.10:06
blahdeblahlater, head_victim10:07
blahdeblahAnyone else know how to make the dock smaller and non-disappearing under natty?10:08
elkyinstall ccsm, unity settings are a compiz plugin10:09
blahdeblahjust found that in the help10:09
blahdeblahhow can they not install that by default?10:10
* elky shrugs10:10
* blahdeblah thinks he'll probably shrug all the way to Debian10:10
elkybye then10:11
elkyi really have no patience for that attitude10:11
gorillayep, it'10:11
gorillas not helful.10:11
gorillahelpful rather.10:11
blahdeblahgorilla: You're leaving it wide open for a pun right there. ;-)10:12
blahdeblahIf my reading of the help is correct, there is no way to keep the panel visible10:14
blahdeblahIs that correct?10:14
elkyi don't know. my colleague appears to have it visible all the time10:15
elkyi don't know how he did it10:15
blahdeblahI just did something that causes it only to disappear when there is a maximised app10:16
blahdeblahBut i have no idea how10:16
elkyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/35963/how-to-make-the-unity-launcher-always-visible10:16
gorillaelky: nice resource.10:18
blahdeblahthanks elky10:19
blahdeblahAnyone know what "flip up" in the "desktop wall" plugin does?10:20
blahdeblahI just changed a setting and it tells me that there's a conflict10:21
elkydunno, but from googling, i think it's the thing that shows the 4 desktops zoomed out10:23
sagaciexpo10:24
blahdeblahI think we need to have a community event for training people on unity10:24
blahdeblahThis desktop makes me feel like i'm a newbie again10:25
sagaci:D10:25
blahdeblahCall me a grumpy old man, but IMO an interface is an improvement if it makes you feel like you're an expert quickly.  Unity makes me feel like i'm a newbie quickly.  Not a good feeling.10:26
blahdeblahGlad i did this on my old test laptop first.  My main laptop is sticking with LTS for now.10:27
blahdeblahNight folks.10:28

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