[06:29] Who's a moderator for the Ubuntu-Au mailing list? [06:34] head_victim, myself and dns53. [06:35] we can't delete messages though, and you don't need one of us to be the one to tell a conversation to stop. [06:39] elky: I was curious. [06:40] The concept of deleting emails after they have been sent is off. Kind of works with Exchange servers but only if your client handles the recall message propewrly. [06:41] s/off/odd/ [06:42] Exchange recall messages to mailing lists are fun [06:53] bradm: even internally they can be fun, especially if it's an email that was sensitive... quick send it to the printers before it gets deleted. :-P I didn't, others did though. [06:53] yeah, it always makes people think, "Now, what was in that email that they didn't want me to see" [06:55] Yep. It tends to be even more intriguing when there was no attachment. [09:53] Just upgraded my first system to natty [09:53] Ugh - how do you stop the dock thingy from disappearing like that? [09:54] Drives me crazy [09:56] And let me guess - workrave is no longer supported in the notification area... [09:59] Wow. The more i touch this interface, the more i hate it. [10:02] blahdeblah: one of these days I'll actually get it on my main machine. [10:02] I'm probably going to wait until 12.04 so it's a little more customisable though. [10:03] They've made a lot of UI choices that i think are pretty lame. [10:03] Almost makes me want to learn FreeBSD just so i can be a bit more retro. [10:04] I don't mind it, the first thing I do though is make the side thingy (technical name there) as small as it will go for each icon. [10:04] So that it takes up less space and lets me show a few more things. [10:05] I use conky for most of my status things anyway so panel applets aren't a big thing to me. [10:06] And on that note, I have to be awake at 4am again so I'll bid you farewell. [10:07] later, head_victim [10:08] Anyone else know how to make the dock smaller and non-disappearing under natty? [10:09] install ccsm, unity settings are a compiz plugin [10:09] just found that in the help [10:10] how can they not install that by default? [10:10] * elky shrugs [10:10] * blahdeblah thinks he'll probably shrug all the way to Debian [10:11] bye then [10:11] i really have no patience for that attitude [10:11] yep, it' [10:11] s not helful. [10:11] helpful rather. [10:12] gorilla: You're leaving it wide open for a pun right there. ;-) [10:14] If my reading of the help is correct, there is no way to keep the panel visible [10:14] Is that correct? [10:15] i don't know. my colleague appears to have it visible all the time [10:15] i don't know how he did it [10:16] I just did something that causes it only to disappear when there is a maximised app [10:16] But i have no idea how [10:16] http://askubuntu.com/questions/35963/how-to-make-the-unity-launcher-always-visible [10:18] elky: nice resource. [10:19] thanks elky [10:20] Anyone know what "flip up" in the "desktop wall" plugin does? [10:21] I just changed a setting and it tells me that there's a conflict [10:23] dunno, but from googling, i think it's the thing that shows the 4 desktops zoomed out [10:24] expo [10:24] I think we need to have a community event for training people on unity [10:25] This desktop makes me feel like i'm a newbie again [10:25] :D [10:26] Call me a grumpy old man, but IMO an interface is an improvement if it makes you feel like you're an expert quickly. Unity makes me feel like i'm a newbie quickly. Not a good feeling. [10:27] Glad i did this on my old test laptop first. My main laptop is sticking with LTS for now. [10:28] Night folks.