[02:24] <frank> has anyone here used virtualbox?
[02:24] <nlsthzn> yup...
[02:24] <nlsthzn> but I got to run..
[02:24] <nlsthzn> \
[02:24] <nlsthzn> kthxbai
[02:25] <frank> anyone else used virtualbox?
[02:29] <stlsaint> frank: what is it you need?
[02:30] <frank> i installed vb so i can try and run orb to sling my media to my windows work laptop
[02:31] <frank> when im in windows i cant seem to access any of the files on my second hd, the one with all me media
[02:32] <stlsaint> what is orb?
[02:33] <stlsaint> and is windows in the vm? please explain full setup
[02:35] <duanedesign> frank: you can probablly see the windows hard drive from linux but seeing the linux hard drive from windows i am not sure. If you format the hard drive you share between OS in something like FAT32 you should be able to see it in both
[02:37] <frank> its not really a linux hd. its a secondary hd with nothing but media on it
[03:18] <barefootryan> Hello. I just recently installed the most recent version of Ubuntu 11.04 on my HP Pavillion dv2500 laptop.  I love it but cannot run three things that I would love to run. 1)Epson VGA projector and two networked office printers. Any ideas?
[03:23] <philipballew> hey barefootryan let me try to help
[03:26] <philipballew> what are the model names of all the devices?
[03:26] <philipballew> you can use those and google that followed by ubuntu
[03:31] <barefootryan> Epson EX 51 projector for starters.  I googled but the results don't seem that promising.
[03:32] <philipballew> what did they say?
[03:32] <philipballew> it can be there is just no driver for them?
[03:34] <stlsaint> i must go soon but for my two cents:
[03:35] <stlsaint> barefootryan: 1. Make sure you are using your proprietary video drivers and not the generic ones
[03:35] <stlsaint> 2. Check the printer websites for linux drivers (also what errors are you getting that show why you cant use these printers)
[03:40] <barefootryan> I just installed the proprietary drivers from the system section but that did not change anything.  It still doesn't see the projector.
[03:51] <philipballew> barefootryan, hows the printer?
[03:51] <philipballew> sorrry, network trouble
[03:54] <stlsaint> barefootryan: take to google man, i have never used a projector with my install so im a dead duck to help ya
[03:56] <barefootryan> The printer, well number one is a Savin CO95 I think (out of the office right now) I can get it to recognize that data is coming in, a little light turns on and the wheels on the output side move.  This is using the suggested drivers.
[03:57] <barefootryan> However no printing actually takes  place
[04:50] <Omsniffiscent> I'm having major sound issues with VLC and I have no idea what's wrong or how to check. Anyone else having issues or can tell me where to start looking?
[04:50] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: what issues?
[04:50] <holstein> isolated to VLC for sure?
[04:50] <Omsniffiscent> The sound is really choppy. I can barely understand what's being said.
[04:51] <holstein> are there any upgrades available?
[04:51] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: try another player
[04:51] <holstein> try cvlc as well
[04:51] <Omsniffiscent> Movie Player works just fine.
[04:51] <Omsniffiscent> I'm having sound issues in wine also. When I click the test sound button it just says fail. But sound plays fine in most programs I run with wine.
[04:52] <Omsniffiscent> Only one program I run with wine has major issues with sound -- it crashes when a sound is played.
[04:52] <holstein> that sounds pretty good
[04:52] <Omsniffiscent> How do I check for VLC updates?
[04:52] <holstein> thats a great percentage of wine apps for you that work then
[04:52] <Omsniffiscent> Ubuntu Software Center only gives me the remove option.
[04:53] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: i run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:53] <holstein> but, however you want to do it
[04:53] <holstein> update manager
[04:53] <holstein> synaptic.. whatever
[04:53] <Omsniffiscent> This won't upgrade me from 10.10 to 11.04 will it?
[04:54] <Omsniffiscent> ^ubuntu
[04:54] <holstein> whats that?
[04:54] <holstein> sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade ??
[04:54] <Omsniffiscent> Yeah.
[04:54] <holstein> dont run those if you dont feel comfortable
[04:54] <holstein> use the update manager
[04:54] <holstein> but... no
[04:54] <Omsniffiscent> I don't want to change my OS version heh. I like 10.10
[04:56] <Omsniffiscent> My system is up to date.
[04:56] <holstein> OK
[04:56] <Omsniffiscent> Maybe I'll just uninstall and re-install it... I don't know why I didn't try that yet.
[04:56] <holstein> so VLC is up to date
[04:56] <holstein> sure
[04:56] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: i would try and isolate the file type that you are playing
[04:56] <holstein> if its an ogg or whatever
[04:57] <holstein> just make sure its only that one kind
[04:57] <holstein> and just use the other player, and file a bug
[04:57] <Omsniffiscent> Movies. That I have played before and they worked fine.
[04:57] <Omsniffiscent> I'll check the filetypes after I re-install.
[04:58] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: played before?
[04:58] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: they will have a suffix
[04:58] <holstein> like .jpg .pdf
[04:58] <holstein> something like .mov or .avi
[04:59] <Omsniffiscent> reinstall worked. :)
[04:59] <holstein> AH... thats good
[04:59] <Omsniffiscent> thanks for the help, heh. I don't know why I didn't get the idea to reinstall until I came in here. I've been trying to figure out what to do all day lol
[19:57] <bobweaver> hi there I kubuntu 11.04 and made a remastersys backup of the whole system now when I boot it at my friends house it works great but I go to install and it installes but wont change the uname or password how do I fix this ?????? THANKS
[19:58] <holstein> bobweaver: you can always add/remove users after the fact
[19:58] <holstein> AFAIK, there are a few ways to remastersys
[19:59] <holstein> you can make a copy of the system with the user and all that, or just a system with the same pacakges
[19:59] <holstein> you might want to try making the other kind of remastersys image and see if thats more what you were looking for
[19:59] <bobweaver> that is what I want option one
[20:00] <bobweaver> but to have ubiquity replace the user name and passwd but none of the /home files
[20:01] <holstein> try the other option and see, im not sure how that will work since the /home files are owned by a user
[20:01] <holstein> im sure theres a way...
[20:01] <bobweaver> keep my system all of it logs and everything but to be able to have ubiquity  change the uname and passwd
[20:01] <holstein> not sure...
[20:01] <bobweaver> I have tried the other options kills menu and font and other things as well
[20:02] <holstein> i have seen folks set a gerneric user/pass
[20:02] <holstein> a temporary one
[20:02] <bobweaver> that would work
[20:02] <bobweaver> I know how to change passwd but how about user
[20:02] <bobweaver> IDK how to do that
[20:03] <holstein> i would probably be creating this in a VM or on a test machine
[20:03] <bobweaver> Thanks for helping me you ROCK
[20:03] <holstein> i would just have the one user
[20:03] <bobweaver> all ready am
[20:03] <holstein> lets say i want user/pass
[20:03] <holstein> i would have one user called user, and the password pass
[20:03] <holstein> then, make the remastersys backup image
[20:04] <holstein> you can mess with users in the terminal, or in the GUI... however you feel comfortable
[20:05] <bobweaver> is there a way to drop the root account make the user account #1 and then just make remastersys backup
[20:06] <holstein> well, this is linux
[20:06] <holstein> so the answer is literally always yes
[20:06] <holstein> if you want to give a user root privs, you should be able to do that
[20:06] <holstein> you probably dont want/need to though
[20:06] <bobweaver> so get ride of root acccount and make user account the root accont and then use the 2nd option in remastersys
[20:07] <bobweaver> here is more sorry about the slow typing
[20:07] <holstein> we already dont really have a root account though
[20:07] <holstein> we sudo
[20:07] <bobweaver> I dont get it
[20:08] <holstein> when you say 'get rid of root account' we alread dont have a traditional root user account
[20:08] <bobweaver> way it there menus under home and under root
[20:08] <holstein> again, anything is possible
[20:09] <holstein> i think you should try and get a clear vision of what you want the final goal to be, and go from there
[20:09] <bobweaver> So menu that is under /.config      compared to menu that is under /usr        is different
[20:09] <holstein> no reason to muck about with user accounts if theres a better way to get at what you want
[20:11] <bobweaver> ok start over
[20:12] <bobweaver> option 1 remastersys    PROS   works great only trouble is it will not change the user name and password
[20:12] <holstein> but, you can afterwards
[20:13] <bobweaver> option 2 remastersys  Pro will Change uname and password but wont keep settings like menu font ect
[20:13] <holstein> right, and thats not an option, correct?
[20:13] <holstein> you want to customize
[20:13] <bobweaver> yes
[20:13] <holstein> so, you'll have to sort out something with the other option
[20:14] <bobweaver> the casper it makes is good but the ubiquity is bad ???
[20:14] <holstein> ok...
[20:18] <bobweaver> option 1 use option 1 in remastersys then just change uname (I dont know how to do )  and passwd (I do know how to do)
[20:19] <bobweaver> so I guess the question is how to change the username kubuntu 11.04
[20:19] <holstein> bobweaver: right, you'll just do that before you make the image
[20:19] <holstein> you do it however you feel comfortable
[20:19] <holstein> the user admin area where ever that is in KDE, or in the terminal
[20:19] <holstein> sudo adduser whatever
[20:20] <bobweaver> I am comfortable with just about anything just need some advice some one to talk about it and throw ideas off of
[20:20] <holstein> there should be a 'users and groups' GUI somewhere
[20:20] <bobweaver> yes it is locked "grey out "
[20:21] <holstein> what is?
[20:21] <bobweaver> under user and groups the uname is
[20:21] <bobweaver> cant change it there
[20:22] <holstein> thats where you'll change it
[20:22] <holstein> im not sure what you need to do in KDE
[20:23] <holstein> in gnome, i can click on 'users and groups' and unlock it to edit
[20:23] <holstein> if you cant do it there, you can do it with another tool
[20:23] <bobweaver> could just make my mom make new user and passwd but what about the dedualt on and security
[20:23] <holstein> you might need a different user temporarily to edit the account you are in currently
[20:24] <holstein> bobweaver: all you need to do is decide you're going to do it :)
[20:24] <bobweaver> I am doing it
[20:24] <holstein> cool :)
[20:40] <Chenthu> Could some one help me with installation?
[20:40] <holstein> Chenthu: whats up?
[20:40] <Chenthu> hey holstein....i am new to linux on the whole and right now installing ubuntu
[20:41] <Chenthu> now i am in the "configuring grub-pc" section
[20:41] <Chenthu> its asking me to choose the place of grub install
[20:41] <holstein> did you download the alternate image or something?
[20:41] <Chenthu> yeah i downloaded the alternate image
[20:42] <holstein> anyways... do you have only one hard drive in the machine?
[20:42] <Chenthu> yeah only one and windows 7 is already installed
[20:42] <Chenthu> i want this to be a dual boot
[20:42] <bioterror> install it on /dev/sda
[20:43] <holstein> whats going to happen is, grub will install, and allow you to boot windows or ubuntu
[20:43] <Chenthu> but my windows 7 is on /dev/sda
[20:43] <Chenthu> wouldn it affect windows 7?
[20:43] <holstein> not the way you think
[20:43] <bioterror> it will install it on MBR
[20:43] <Chenthu> i chose alternate because i wanted to download quickly using torrents
[20:43] <bioterror> !mbr
[20:43] <holstein> windows is likely on /dev/sda1
[20:43] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[20:43] <Chenthu> i know mbr
[20:44] <holstein> Chenthu: the other installer 'just works'
[20:44] <holstein> i cant imagine it being any faster or slower to download
[20:44] <holstein> but this will work fine for you
[20:44] <Chenthu> oh ok...anyway...now that i have downloaded and installed...let me learn the hard way... :-P
[20:45] <Chenthu> wont this grub install on /dev/sda invalidate my windows
[20:45] <holstein> invalidate?
[20:45] <Chenthu> meaning wont it be problematic to start windows 7?
[20:45] <holstein> grub will not do anything that makes win7 not boot
[20:46] <Chenthu> oh ok...cause i ve had this problem previously
[20:46] <Chenthu> cause i am like a summer fag
[20:46] <holstein> i always suggest backing up data, and knowing how to revert
[20:46] <holstein> and having the tools to revert
[20:46] <Chenthu> i tried linux  long back...same ubuntu and had probs
[20:46] <Chenthu> data backed up
[20:46] <Chenthu> i am just afraid would have to extra work if things get messed up
[20:46] <Chenthu> lol
[20:46] <holstein> if this hoses something, you need to know how to use gparted to regrow that ntfs partition, and a win cd to recover the MBR
[20:47] <holstein> then, you literally cant break anything
[20:47] <Chenthu> hmmmm
[20:47] <Chenthu> lol
[20:47] <Chenthu> k
[20:47] <Chenthu> k i ve chosen /dev/sda
[20:47] <holstein> but, linux/grub wont break windows
[20:47] <Chenthu> thanks for heklping me choose
[20:47] <Chenthu> thats good
[20:47] <holstein> that doesnt mean you cant ;)
[20:48] <Chenthu> but previously a year back when i installed linux as a dual boot to my windows 7
[20:48] <Chenthu> my windows 7 wasnt able to come back...but that was back track
[20:48] <Chenthu> i hope things are ok
[20:48] <Chenthu> whats the difference between normal and alternate?
[20:48] <holstein> well, i can postulate several scenarios that could have happened
[20:49] <holstein> none of which involve linux or grub breaking anything
[20:49] <holstein> one thing, if you come here *before* doing anything, and ask
[20:49] <Chenthu> if u are free...and wouldnt mind telling me ....u could postulate those scenarios
[20:49] <holstein> or check in...
[20:49] <holstein> i would have suggested the normal CD just because i think the GUI is easier to wrap the mind around
[20:50] <Chenthu> yeah...but thats was not available in official torrents...and i am not using a cd i am using a usb
[20:50] <holstein> Chenthu: you could have had the ntfs partition deleted by accident
[20:50] <Chenthu> and torrents are easy
[20:50] <Chenthu> oh...is it?...yeah i culd have
[20:50] <holstein> right, but thats a more complex installer
[20:50] <holstein> these are the issues you face
[20:51] <holstein> whats gurb? where does it go?
[20:51] <Chenthu> yeah.....sure co,plex it is but i am learning
[20:51] <holstein> the other install just does it for you
[20:51] <holstein> automatically
[20:51] <holstein> not that you cant do it that way, its just arguably not the best choice for a beginner
[20:51] <Chenthu> yeah ...
[20:52] <holstein> AND, you can see the live CD running on your hardware
[20:52] <Chenthu> hey i have wondows but it detects as vista?..is that normal?
[20:52] <holstein> you have no idea if the hardware is supported right now
[20:52] <Chenthu> windows 7
[20:52] <holstein> you are just going to boot and hope for the best
[20:52] <Chenthu> omg is it?...i dont know that...
[20:52] <holstein> IF you have the live CD, you can see the desktop running on your hard ware, test things, see the sound working, check the graphics, network, whatever
[20:53] <holstein> the live CD is an awesome tool we have that the proprietary systems cant provide
[20:53] <Chenthu> thats a sure thing....i used live cd of back track and recently "tails"
[20:53] <holstein> Chenthu: not to scare you, everything is fixable... im just saying, i would have suggested that
[20:54] <Chenthu> ok.... :)
[20:54] <holstein> i like to see everything working, or know whats not going to work and why before i partition the hard drive
[20:54] <Chenthu> is it ok...if my grub install detects windows 7 to be vista?
[20:54] <holstein> on a box i have, the recovery partition is labeled vista
[20:55] <holstein> i wouldnt sweat the labels
[20:55] <Chenthu> oh k...lol
[20:55] <Chenthu> k k
[20:55] <holstein> if it boots win7, its all good, and you can always change that label if you care
[20:55] <Chenthu> yeah....
[20:56] <Chenthu> first i used USB tool specified by ubuntu to creatae my usb install disk
[20:57] <Chenthu> it dint work...then afetr a lot of research without answers tried doing that with unetbootin
[20:57] <Chenthu> and it worked
[20:57] <Chenthu> lol
[20:57] <holstein> yeah, i use unet
[20:57] <Chenthu> thats good
[20:58] <Chenthu> ok installed
[20:58] <Chenthu> restarted
[20:59] <Chenthu> now choose windows 7 on boot menu
[20:59] <Chenthu> to check if thats working
[20:59] <Chenthu> wow...windows 7 works fine
[20:59] <Chenthu> now for ubuntu
[21:00] <Chenthu> restarted...choose ubuntu...
[21:00] <Chenthu> waiting
[21:01] <Chenthu> working logged in
[21:01] <Chenthu> but mouse speed is fast
[21:01] <holstein> of course :)
[21:02] <Chenthu> lolk
[21:02] <Chenthu> three errors so far at the first startup
[21:02] <holstein> not bad considering
[21:02] <Chenthu> omg i think its frozen
[21:02] <holstein> you're not counting that mouse thing as an error are you?
[21:02] <Chenthu> u mean :the alternate version"?
[21:02] <Chenthu> nope
[21:02] <holstein> OK
[21:03] <holstein> the end result with the alternate and the normal are the same
[21:03] <holstein> you just didnt get an opportunity to test
[21:03] <Chenthu> good then
[21:03] <Chenthu> but mine crashed
[21:03] <Chenthu> lol
[21:03] <Chenthu> i am restarting again to check if there is any luck
[21:03] <holstein> yeah?
[21:03] <Chenthu> yeah
[21:04] <holstein> im going to suggest you try to get to a terminal
[21:04] <holstein> and upgrade
[21:04] <Chenthu> three windows with errors popped up
[21:04] <Chenthu> i gave close
[21:04] <holstein> are you online?
[21:04] <Chenthu> not yet
[21:04] <Chenthu> then crashed
[21:04] <holstein> i would upgrade first
[21:04] <Chenthu> i ll check if i could connect to net after i log in and connect my 3G stick
[21:05] <holstein> can you just wire it up temporarily?
[21:05] <Chenthu> no way...lol
[21:05] <Chenthu> i am in a hotel and i use my 3g
[21:06] <Chenthu> "could not update  ICEauthority file /home/....
[21:06] <holstein> good luck with that... does your 3g support linux?
[21:06] <Chenthu> this sucks
[21:06] <Chenthu> yup it does...i think so
[21:07] <holstein> Chenthu: yeah, i hate it that you came so late... im not even sure what version you installed
[21:07] <Chenthu> cause when i used a live system (tails) it worked
[21:07] <holstein> i would have suggested the normal live CD for 10.04 which is the LTS
[21:07] <Chenthu> 11.04
[21:07] <holstein> that being said, you can sort all this out i bet
[21:07] <Chenthu> omg...i should have come here met and have decided...
[21:08] <holstein> eh... you can sort it out... i just hate to see you have such a bad experience
[21:08] <Chenthu> :(....thanks man.....i think u must be a ubuntu lover
[21:08] <Chenthu> i ll try boooting up with the recobvery mode
[21:08] <holstein> Chenthu: i would try upgrading first
[21:09] <holstein> you dont need to recover anything really
[21:09] <Chenthu> why?...
[21:09] <Chenthu> cause it says no session found
[21:09] <holstein> what does?
[21:09] <Chenthu> thats not a priob with recovery?
[21:09] <Chenthu> i said three error right?
[21:09] <holstein> yeah, but upgrades could fix everything
[21:10] <Chenthu> hmmm.....
[21:10] <Chenthu> but to upgrade i should have atleast a terminal right?
[21:10] <holstein> for example, the netbook im using, i installed, no sound or wifi
[21:10] <Chenthu> i couldnt even see my desktop
[21:10] <holstein> i plugged it in, and upgraded, and everything just worked
[21:10] <Chenthu> its all black without any buttons even in taskbar
[21:11] <Chenthu> before i chose ubuntu
[21:11] <holstein> Chenthu: you can hit control+alt+F2
[21:11] <holstein> that'll get you to a terminal
[21:11] <holstein> but, you'll need to be online
[21:11] <Chenthu> i made a comaprison of all linux and chose ubuntu tio be best...
[21:11] <holstein> eh, depends on what you need
[21:11] <Chenthu> i heared 11.04 is buggy but decided to go cause i wanna make it work...lol
[21:11] <holstein> ubuntu does desktop pretty well i think
[21:12] <Chenthu> oh ok
[21:12] <Chenthu> ctrl alt f2?
[21:12] <Chenthu> will try now
[21:12] <holstein> yup
[21:12] <holstein> control+alt+F7 or F8 to get back
[21:12] <Chenthu> yeah even desktop i chjecked abt gnome and kde
[21:13] <holstein> 11.04 has unity
[21:13] <Chenthu> but from what i have read kde seems good..but ununtu has gnome
[21:13] <holstein> ubuntu has unity actually
[21:13] <holstein> they just switched
[21:13] <holstein> but, to be more presice
[21:13] <holstein> ubuntu comes with unity
[21:14] <holstein> theres kubuntu which comes with KDE, and xubuntu with XFCE
[21:14] <Chenthu> oh...lol that part i never noticed
[21:14] <holstein> but, you can always add whatever you want
[21:14] <Chenthu> yerah kubuntu and xubuntu i heared
[21:14] <bioterror> or just install mini installation and build things yourself
[21:14] <Chenthu> unity?...how is it ?...nice from ur view point?
[21:14] <holstein> these linux systems are cusomizable by nature
[21:14] <holstein> bioterror: :)
[21:14] <bioterror> choose any window manager and add stuff
[21:15] <Chenthu> k
[21:15] <holstein> yeah, build your own as you want it to be
[21:15] <bioterror> it's the best!
[21:15] <Chenthu> cAN I BUILD MY OWN NOW?
[21:15] <Chenthu> sry for the caps thing
[21:15] <Chenthu> was a mistake
[21:15] <Chenthu> k my terminal is up.....what now?
[21:16] <holstein> http://www.edubuntu.org/vmmanager is a way to see unity in action, assuming you dont have it working
[21:16] <holstein> Chenthu: if i were you, i would want to get that online and upgrade
[21:16] <holstein> the problem is, you dont have a way to plug it in
[21:17] <Chenthu> how to do that?/...u have the tinme to guide me or i shoiuld search online?
[21:17] <Chenthu> i have wifi though...
[21:17] <holstein> well, can you plug it in?
[21:17] <Chenthu> tahts my other option
[21:17] <holstein> when you do you run in the terminal
[21:17] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[21:17] <holstein> and
[21:17] <Chenthu> k
[21:17] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:17] <Chenthu> k
[21:18] <Chenthu> can i use my wifi?
[21:18] <holstein> maybe
[21:18] <Chenthu> any command or just have to connect it?
[21:18] <Chenthu> i mdean just on my wifi
[21:18] <Chenthu> ?
[21:18] <holstein> i wouldnt know where to begin to connect to wifi from the terminal
[21:19] <holstein> theres a package i could suggest, but you'd need to be online to get it ;)
[21:19] <holstein> i would reboot
[21:19] <holstein> try to get onlin from the normal desktop, and go from there
[21:19] <holstein> in the terminal you can run sudo reboot
[21:19] <Chenthu> mmm...ok
[21:19] <Chenthu> k
[21:19] <holstein> im just saying, dont waste time fixing things til you upgrade... fixes might already be available
[21:20] <Chenthu> k
[21:20] <Chenthu> i do that a lot..."waste time in fixing things thats been fixed already"
[21:20] <Chenthu> i have to change that attitude
[21:20] <Chenthu> rebootin
[21:21] <holstein> eh, its all a learning experience
[21:21] <Chenthu> :)
[21:21] <Chenthu> is it possible for me to rebuild my ubuntu
[21:22] <Chenthu> i mean can i change it completely and remove unwanted and add new wanted?
[21:22] <holstein> its linux... the answer is always yes pretty much
[21:22] <bioterror> !pure gnome
[21:22] <ubot2> Factoid 'pure gnome' not found
[21:22] <bioterror> !puregnome
[21:22] <ubot2> If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome
[21:22] <bioterror> take from purekde command for removing gnome ;)
[21:22] <bioterror> and then fetch ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[21:23] <Chenthu> thanks bot noted down
[21:23] <Chenthu> bioterror: just purekde?
[21:23] <bioterror> !purekde | Chenthu
[21:23] <ubot2> Chenthu: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[21:23] <Chenthu> will it remove all those installed extras?
[21:24] <bioterror> that's how you remove desktops ;)
[21:24] <bioterror> and install anothers
[21:24] <bioterror> without reinstallation
[21:24] <Chenthu> ubot2:thank you....so now that i have iunity on ubuntu 11.04...what should i use4?
[21:24] <ubot2> Chenthu: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:24] <Chenthu> lol...ok...i thought bot was a person
[21:25] <Chenthu> bioterror: tq
[21:25] <Chenthu> but can i just use the said commasnd to do it?
[21:26] <holstein> Chenthu: you might want to look at virtualbox
[21:26] <Chenthu> virtualbox?...u mean like a sandbox?
[21:26] <holstein> i remember using virtualbox in windows to try things out... you can really break something and easily revert
[21:26] <holstein> a lot of it is personal preference
[21:27] <Chenthu> i thought abt that...but i dont know whats the reason...i hate virtual box
[21:27] <holstein> well, VMware... whatever you use
[21:27] <Chenthu> do i have any terminal command to just revert back to pure ubuntu
[21:28] <Chenthu> i mean "uninstall everything?
[21:28] <holstein> theres probably a big paste in there at that link
[21:28] <Chenthu> oh ok...will read that
[21:28] <holstein> again, not really something i would say to do as a beginner
[21:28] <Chenthu> sisnce iw as chatting and diont wanna miss what u were saying i just opened and never lookd at that link
[21:28] <holstein> unless you have a clear idea of where you want to go
[21:29] <Chenthu> is this valid "i have a clear idea of removing all packages installed except for the drivers and some bacsic packs"
[21:29] <holstein> sure, but im just not sure whats what in there
[21:30] <holstein> might remove 3g support? im not sure
[21:30] <Chenthu> yeah thats agood question
[21:30] <holstein> you'd just have to try and and see
[21:30] <Chenthu> omg yeah thats there
[21:30] <holstein> and again, as long as you know how, and have the tools to revert, go for it :)
[21:31] <Chenthu> will giove some time over this...orelse i am just gonna revert...lol
[21:31] <Chenthu> k i ams treaming wifi from mobile
[21:31] <Chenthu> i just have to google to use it in termianal
[21:31] <holstein> if you are connected, thats it
[21:31] <holstein> just upgrade
[21:31] <holstein> theres an update tool you can use if you prefer
[21:32] <Chenthu> i am trying to connect now
[21:32] <Chenthu> i am using the 3g here
[21:32] <Chenthu> so i am streaming my mobile 3g as wifi
[21:36] <Chenthu> found a way to use wifi from terminal
[21:36] <Chenthu> need to have certain tools
[21:36] <Chenthu> and this pack do has that
[21:37] <Chenthu> but it says need to install driver
[21:37] <holstein> right, thats the rub
[21:38] <holstein> check out... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[21:38] <holstein> see if that pertains ^^
[21:38] <holstein> theres a way to download what you need and move it over via USB stick
[21:39] <Chenthu> terminal gave alink to download driver
[21:39] <Chenthu> first ill try thth
[21:39] <holstein> be sure you contact the vendor of your hardware and let them know how much of a hard time you had since they dont allow drivers to be included with linux
[21:40] <holstein> Chenthu: good luck... i gotta run... BBL
[21:40] <Chenthu> thank u verymuch holstein
[21:40] <Chenthu> BB
[21:40] <Chenthu> Tc
[21:40] <Chenthu> yeah will tell them...but my laptop is 5 years old
[21:40] <Chenthu> will be buying new one only next month
[21:40] <Chenthu> lol
[21:46] <Chenthu_> k
[21:57] <^aL-ITAngel^> hellooo! salut tout le monde :-)
[21:58] <nit-wit> mmmmm megadeath
[22:21] <Chenthu> lo\
[22:28] <^aL-ITAngel^> lo ibuclaw nhandler tronyx sardonyx en taro Adun starcraftman !!!
[22:34] <starcraftman> ^aL-ITAngel^: en taro tassadar!
[22:35] <^aL-ITAngel^> :-)
[22:35] <^aL-ITAngel^> do you remember me?
[22:36] <starcraftman> ^aL-ITAngel^: not really, my memory leaving me at that young an age? depressing :/
[22:37] <^aL-ITAngel^> lol
[22:37] <^aL-ITAngel^> I will refresh it
[22:37] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> kaukola
[22:39] <starcraftman> ^Zen-hoOb-bit: still kinda lost me >.>.
[22:40] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> lol
[22:40] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> I'm a very old user, don't worry ^^
[22:41] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> I've been out for years
[22:42] <starcraftman> ^Zen-hoOb-bit: ok then, uh, I guess I'm not that old. Just been a bit inactive lately. Need more activity.
[22:46] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> I need help : Do you know how can I upgrade the old ubuntu 8.04 to the 8.10 and more? I tryied with different servers but nothing happens... It's possible to upgrade it using the ubuntu 8.10 cd-rom?
[22:46] <charlie-tca> upgrade direct to 10.04 ?
[22:47] <starcraftman> ^Zen-hoOb-bit: you want to upgrade 8.04 to 8.10? Those are very old versions >.>
[22:47] <starcraftman> I'd recommend something a little more recent. 10.04 at least.
[22:48] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> yes because I don't want to erase the disk or reinstall all from zero.
[22:49] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> but I would like to have the 10.04 LL
[22:49] <charlie-tca> 8.04 to 10.04 is a supported upgrade
[22:50] <charlie-tca> You don't have to go through everything else
[22:50] <starcraftman> ^Zen-hoOb-bit: Instructions > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrade%20from%208.04%20LTS%20to%2010.04%20LTS
[22:50] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> really???
[22:51] <starcraftman> ^Zen-hoOb-bit: course, that's how lts always been with lts.
[22:54] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> great!!! En Taro Tassadar!
[22:54] <starcraftman> ^Zen-hoOb-bit: have fun
[22:55] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> why haven't I asked it before? I thought I had to reinstall all... waited for ages... I'm so stupid lol :-)
[22:57] <^Zen-hoOb-bit> :-PPP