[02:24] has anyone here used virtualbox? [02:24] yup... [02:24] but I got to run.. [02:24] \ [02:24] kthxbai [02:25] anyone else used virtualbox? [02:29] frank: what is it you need? [02:30] i installed vb so i can try and run orb to sling my media to my windows work laptop [02:31] when im in windows i cant seem to access any of the files on my second hd, the one with all me media [02:32] what is orb? [02:33] and is windows in the vm? please explain full setup [02:35] frank: you can probablly see the windows hard drive from linux but seeing the linux hard drive from windows i am not sure. If you format the hard drive you share between OS in something like FAT32 you should be able to see it in both [02:37] its not really a linux hd. its a secondary hd with nothing but media on it [03:18] Hello. I just recently installed the most recent version of Ubuntu 11.04 on my HP Pavillion dv2500 laptop. I love it but cannot run three things that I would love to run. 1)Epson VGA projector and two networked office printers. Any ideas? [03:23] hey barefootryan let me try to help [03:26] what are the model names of all the devices? [03:26] you can use those and google that followed by ubuntu [03:31] Epson EX 51 projector for starters. I googled but the results don't seem that promising. [03:32] what did they say? [03:32] it can be there is just no driver for them? [03:34] i must go soon but for my two cents: [03:35] barefootryan: 1. Make sure you are using your proprietary video drivers and not the generic ones [03:35] 2. Check the printer websites for linux drivers (also what errors are you getting that show why you cant use these printers) [03:40] I just installed the proprietary drivers from the system section but that did not change anything. It still doesn't see the projector. [03:51] barefootryan, hows the printer? [03:51] sorrry, network trouble [03:54] barefootryan: take to google man, i have never used a projector with my install so im a dead duck to help ya [03:56] The printer, well number one is a Savin CO95 I think (out of the office right now) I can get it to recognize that data is coming in, a little light turns on and the wheels on the output side move. This is using the suggested drivers. [03:57] However no printing actually takes place [04:50] I'm having major sound issues with VLC and I have no idea what's wrong or how to check. Anyone else having issues or can tell me where to start looking? [04:50] Omsniffiscent: what issues? [04:50] isolated to VLC for sure? [04:50] The sound is really choppy. I can barely understand what's being said. [04:51] are there any upgrades available? [04:51] Omsniffiscent: try another player [04:51] try cvlc as well [04:51] Movie Player works just fine. [04:51] I'm having sound issues in wine also. When I click the test sound button it just says fail. But sound plays fine in most programs I run with wine. [04:52] Only one program I run with wine has major issues with sound -- it crashes when a sound is played. [04:52] that sounds pretty good [04:52] How do I check for VLC updates? [04:52] thats a great percentage of wine apps for you that work then [04:52] Ubuntu Software Center only gives me the remove option. [04:53] Omsniffiscent: i run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade [04:53] but, however you want to do it [04:53] update manager [04:53] synaptic.. whatever [04:53] This won't upgrade me from 10.10 to 11.04 will it? [04:54] ^ubuntu [04:54] whats that? [04:54] sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade ?? [04:54] Yeah. [04:54] dont run those if you dont feel comfortable [04:54] use the update manager [04:54] but... no [04:54] I don't want to change my OS version heh. I like 10.10 [04:56] My system is up to date. [04:56] OK [04:56] Maybe I'll just uninstall and re-install it... I don't know why I didn't try that yet. [04:56] so VLC is up to date [04:56] sure [04:56] Omsniffiscent: i would try and isolate the file type that you are playing [04:56] if its an ogg or whatever [04:57] just make sure its only that one kind [04:57] and just use the other player, and file a bug [04:57] Movies. That I have played before and they worked fine. [04:57] I'll check the filetypes after I re-install. [04:58] Omsniffiscent: played before? [04:58] Omsniffiscent: they will have a suffix [04:58] like .jpg .pdf [04:58] something like .mov or .avi [04:59] reinstall worked. :) [04:59] AH... thats good [04:59] thanks for the help, heh. I don't know why I didn't get the idea to reinstall until I came in here. I've been trying to figure out what to do all day lol === Omsniffiscent is now known as Geodude === blaz_ is now known as s7nf === akshatj_ is now known as akshatj === SarahK is now known as SarahK_afk [19:57] hi there I kubuntu 11.04 and made a remastersys backup of the whole system now when I boot it at my friends house it works great but I go to install and it installes but wont change the uname or password how do I fix this ?????? THANKS [19:58] bobweaver: you can always add/remove users after the fact [19:58] AFAIK, there are a few ways to remastersys [19:59] you can make a copy of the system with the user and all that, or just a system with the same pacakges [19:59] you might want to try making the other kind of remastersys image and see if thats more what you were looking for [19:59] that is what I want option one [20:00] but to have ubiquity replace the user name and passwd but none of the /home files [20:01] try the other option and see, im not sure how that will work since the /home files are owned by a user [20:01] im sure theres a way... [20:01] keep my system all of it logs and everything but to be able to have ubiquity change the uname and passwd [20:01] not sure... [20:01] I have tried the other options kills menu and font and other things as well [20:02] i have seen folks set a gerneric user/pass [20:02] a temporary one [20:02] that would work [20:02] I know how to change passwd but how about user [20:02] IDK how to do that [20:03] i would probably be creating this in a VM or on a test machine [20:03] Thanks for helping me you ROCK [20:03] i would just have the one user [20:03] all ready am [20:03] lets say i want user/pass [20:03] i would have one user called user, and the password pass [20:03] then, make the remastersys backup image [20:04] you can mess with users in the terminal, or in the GUI... however you feel comfortable [20:05] is there a way to drop the root account make the user account #1 and then just make remastersys backup [20:06] well, this is linux [20:06] so the answer is literally always yes [20:06] if you want to give a user root privs, you should be able to do that [20:06] you probably dont want/need to though [20:06] so get ride of root acccount and make user account the root accont and then use the 2nd option in remastersys [20:07] here is more sorry about the slow typing [20:07] we already dont really have a root account though [20:07] we sudo [20:07] I dont get it [20:08] when you say 'get rid of root account' we alread dont have a traditional root user account [20:08] way it there menus under home and under root [20:08] again, anything is possible [20:09] i think you should try and get a clear vision of what you want the final goal to be, and go from there [20:09] So menu that is under /.config compared to menu that is under /usr is different [20:09] no reason to muck about with user accounts if theres a better way to get at what you want [20:11] ok start over [20:12] option 1 remastersys PROS works great only trouble is it will not change the user name and password [20:12] but, you can afterwards [20:13] option 2 remastersys Pro will Change uname and password but wont keep settings like menu font ect [20:13] right, and thats not an option, correct? [20:13] you want to customize [20:13] yes [20:13] so, you'll have to sort out something with the other option [20:14] the casper it makes is good but the ubiquity is bad ??? [20:14] ok... [20:18] option 1 use option 1 in remastersys then just change uname (I dont know how to do ) and passwd (I do know how to do) [20:19] so I guess the question is how to change the username kubuntu 11.04 [20:19] bobweaver: right, you'll just do that before you make the image [20:19] you do it however you feel comfortable [20:19] the user admin area where ever that is in KDE, or in the terminal [20:19] sudo adduser whatever [20:20] I am comfortable with just about anything just need some advice some one to talk about it and throw ideas off of [20:20] there should be a 'users and groups' GUI somewhere [20:20] yes it is locked "grey out " [20:21] what is? [20:21] under user and groups the uname is [20:21] cant change it there [20:22] thats where you'll change it [20:22] im not sure what you need to do in KDE [20:23] in gnome, i can click on 'users and groups' and unlock it to edit [20:23] if you cant do it there, you can do it with another tool [20:23] could just make my mom make new user and passwd but what about the dedualt on and security [20:23] you might need a different user temporarily to edit the account you are in currently [20:24] bobweaver: all you need to do is decide you're going to do it :) [20:24] I am doing it [20:24] cool :) [20:40] Could some one help me with installation? [20:40] Chenthu: whats up? [20:40] hey holstein....i am new to linux on the whole and right now installing ubuntu [20:41] now i am in the "configuring grub-pc" section [20:41] its asking me to choose the place of grub install [20:41] did you download the alternate image or something? [20:41] yeah i downloaded the alternate image [20:42] anyways... do you have only one hard drive in the machine? [20:42] yeah only one and windows 7 is already installed [20:42] i want this to be a dual boot [20:42] install it on /dev/sda [20:43] whats going to happen is, grub will install, and allow you to boot windows or ubuntu [20:43] but my windows 7 is on /dev/sda [20:43] wouldn it affect windows 7? [20:43] not the way you think [20:43] it will install it on MBR [20:43] i chose alternate because i wanted to download quickly using torrents [20:43] !mbr [20:43] windows is likely on /dev/sda1 [20:43] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [20:43] i know mbr [20:44] Chenthu: the other installer 'just works' [20:44] i cant imagine it being any faster or slower to download [20:44] but this will work fine for you [20:44] oh ok...anyway...now that i have downloaded and installed...let me learn the hard way... :-P [20:45] wont this grub install on /dev/sda invalidate my windows [20:45] invalidate? [20:45] meaning wont it be problematic to start windows 7? [20:45] grub will not do anything that makes win7 not boot [20:46] oh ok...cause i ve had this problem previously [20:46] cause i am like a summer fag [20:46] i always suggest backing up data, and knowing how to revert [20:46] and having the tools to revert [20:46] i tried linux long back...same ubuntu and had probs [20:46] data backed up [20:46] i am just afraid would have to extra work if things get messed up [20:46] lol [20:46] if this hoses something, you need to know how to use gparted to regrow that ntfs partition, and a win cd to recover the MBR [20:47] then, you literally cant break anything [20:47] hmmmm [20:47] lol [20:47] k [20:47] k i ve chosen /dev/sda [20:47] but, linux/grub wont break windows [20:47] thanks for heklping me choose [20:47] thats good [20:47] that doesnt mean you cant ;) [20:48] but previously a year back when i installed linux as a dual boot to my windows 7 [20:48] my windows 7 wasnt able to come back...but that was back track [20:48] i hope things are ok [20:48] whats the difference between normal and alternate? [20:48] well, i can postulate several scenarios that could have happened [20:49] none of which involve linux or grub breaking anything [20:49] one thing, if you come here *before* doing anything, and ask [20:49] if u are free...and wouldnt mind telling me ....u could postulate those scenarios [20:49] or check in... [20:49] i would have suggested the normal CD just because i think the GUI is easier to wrap the mind around [20:50] yeah...but thats was not available in official torrents...and i am not using a cd i am using a usb [20:50] Chenthu: you could have had the ntfs partition deleted by accident [20:50] and torrents are easy [20:50] oh...is it?...yeah i culd have [20:50] right, but thats a more complex installer [20:50] these are the issues you face [20:51] whats gurb? where does it go? [20:51] yeah.....sure co,plex it is but i am learning [20:51] the other install just does it for you [20:51] automatically [20:51] not that you cant do it that way, its just arguably not the best choice for a beginner [20:51] yeah ... [20:52] AND, you can see the live CD running on your hardware [20:52] hey i have wondows but it detects as vista?..is that normal? [20:52] you have no idea if the hardware is supported right now [20:52] windows 7 [20:52] you are just going to boot and hope for the best [20:52] omg is it?...i dont know that... [20:52] IF you have the live CD, you can see the desktop running on your hard ware, test things, see the sound working, check the graphics, network, whatever [20:53] the live CD is an awesome tool we have that the proprietary systems cant provide [20:53] thats a sure thing....i used live cd of back track and recently "tails" [20:53] Chenthu: not to scare you, everything is fixable... im just saying, i would have suggested that [20:54] ok.... :) [20:54] i like to see everything working, or know whats not going to work and why before i partition the hard drive [20:54] is it ok...if my grub install detects windows 7 to be vista? [20:54] on a box i have, the recovery partition is labeled vista [20:55] i wouldnt sweat the labels [20:55] oh k...lol [20:55] k k [20:55] if it boots win7, its all good, and you can always change that label if you care [20:55] yeah.... [20:56] first i used USB tool specified by ubuntu to creatae my usb install disk [20:57] it dint work...then afetr a lot of research without answers tried doing that with unetbootin [20:57] and it worked [20:57] lol [20:57] yeah, i use unet [20:57] thats good [20:58] ok installed [20:58] restarted [20:59] now choose windows 7 on boot menu [20:59] to check if thats working [20:59] wow...windows 7 works fine [20:59] now for ubuntu [21:00] restarted...choose ubuntu... [21:00] waiting [21:01] working logged in [21:01] but mouse speed is fast [21:01] of course :) [21:02] lolk [21:02] three errors so far at the first startup [21:02] not bad considering [21:02] omg i think its frozen [21:02] you're not counting that mouse thing as an error are you? [21:02] u mean :the alternate version"? [21:02] nope [21:02] OK [21:03] the end result with the alternate and the normal are the same === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:03] you just didnt get an opportunity to test [21:03] good then [21:03] but mine crashed [21:03] lol [21:03] i am restarting again to check if there is any luck [21:03] yeah? [21:03] yeah [21:04] im going to suggest you try to get to a terminal [21:04] and upgrade [21:04] three windows with errors popped up [21:04] i gave close [21:04] are you online? [21:04] not yet [21:04] then crashed [21:04] i would upgrade first [21:04] i ll check if i could connect to net after i log in and connect my 3G stick [21:05] can you just wire it up temporarily? [21:05] no way...lol [21:05] i am in a hotel and i use my 3g [21:06] "could not update ICEauthority file /home/.... [21:06] good luck with that... does your 3g support linux? [21:06] this sucks [21:06] yup it does...i think so [21:07] Chenthu: yeah, i hate it that you came so late... im not even sure what version you installed [21:07] cause when i used a live system (tails) it worked [21:07] i would have suggested the normal live CD for 10.04 which is the LTS [21:07] 11.04 [21:07] that being said, you can sort all this out i bet [21:07] omg...i should have come here met and have decided... [21:08] eh... you can sort it out... i just hate to see you have such a bad experience [21:08] :(....thanks man.....i think u must be a ubuntu lover [21:08] i ll try boooting up with the recobvery mode [21:08] Chenthu: i would try upgrading first [21:09] you dont need to recover anything really [21:09] why?... [21:09] cause it says no session found [21:09] what does? [21:09] thats not a priob with recovery? [21:09] i said three error right? [21:09] yeah, but upgrades could fix everything [21:10] hmmm..... [21:10] but to upgrade i should have atleast a terminal right? [21:10] for example, the netbook im using, i installed, no sound or wifi [21:10] i couldnt even see my desktop [21:10] i plugged it in, and upgraded, and everything just worked [21:10] its all black without any buttons even in taskbar [21:11] before i chose ubuntu [21:11] Chenthu: you can hit control+alt+F2 [21:11] that'll get you to a terminal [21:11] but, you'll need to be online [21:11] i made a comaprison of all linux and chose ubuntu tio be best... [21:11] eh, depends on what you need [21:11] i heared 11.04 is buggy but decided to go cause i wanna make it work...lol [21:11] ubuntu does desktop pretty well i think [21:12] oh ok [21:12] ctrl alt f2? [21:12] will try now [21:12] yup [21:12] control+alt+F7 or F8 to get back [21:12] yeah even desktop i chjecked abt gnome and kde [21:13] 11.04 has unity [21:13] but from what i have read kde seems good..but ununtu has gnome [21:13] ubuntu has unity actually [21:13] they just switched [21:13] but, to be more presice [21:13] ubuntu comes with unity [21:14] theres kubuntu which comes with KDE, and xubuntu with XFCE [21:14] oh...lol that part i never noticed [21:14] but, you can always add whatever you want [21:14] yerah kubuntu and xubuntu i heared [21:14] or just install mini installation and build things yourself [21:14] unity?...how is it ?...nice from ur view point? [21:14] these linux systems are cusomizable by nature [21:14] bioterror: :) [21:14] choose any window manager and add stuff [21:15] k [21:15] yeah, build your own as you want it to be [21:15] it's the best! [21:15] cAN I BUILD MY OWN NOW? [21:15] sry for the caps thing [21:15] was a mistake [21:15] k my terminal is up.....what now? [21:16] http://www.edubuntu.org/vmmanager is a way to see unity in action, assuming you dont have it working [21:16] Chenthu: if i were you, i would want to get that online and upgrade [21:16] the problem is, you dont have a way to plug it in [21:17] how to do that?/...u have the tinme to guide me or i shoiuld search online? [21:17] i have wifi though... [21:17] well, can you plug it in? [21:17] tahts my other option [21:17] when you do you run in the terminal [21:17] sudo apt-get update [21:17] and [21:17] k [21:17] sudo apt-get upgrade [21:17] k [21:18] can i use my wifi? [21:18] maybe [21:18] any command or just have to connect it? [21:18] i mdean just on my wifi [21:18] ? [21:18] i wouldnt know where to begin to connect to wifi from the terminal [21:19] theres a package i could suggest, but you'd need to be online to get it ;) [21:19] i would reboot [21:19] try to get onlin from the normal desktop, and go from there [21:19] in the terminal you can run sudo reboot [21:19] mmm...ok [21:19] k [21:19] im just saying, dont waste time fixing things til you upgrade... fixes might already be available [21:20] k [21:20] i do that a lot..."waste time in fixing things thats been fixed already" [21:20] i have to change that attitude [21:20] rebootin [21:21] eh, its all a learning experience [21:21] :) [21:21] is it possible for me to rebuild my ubuntu [21:22] i mean can i change it completely and remove unwanted and add new wanted? [21:22] its linux... the answer is always yes pretty much [21:22] !pure gnome [21:22] Factoid 'pure gnome' not found [21:22] !puregnome [21:22] If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome [21:22] take from purekde command for removing gnome ;) [21:22] and then fetch ubuntu-desktop metapackage [21:23] thanks bot noted down [21:23] bioterror: just purekde? [21:23] !purekde | Chenthu [21:23] Chenthu: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [21:23] will it remove all those installed extras? [21:24] that's how you remove desktops ;) [21:24] and install anothers [21:24] without reinstallation [21:24] ubot2:thank you....so now that i have iunity on ubuntu 11.04...what should i use4? [21:24] Chenthu: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [21:24] lol...ok...i thought bot was a person [21:25] bioterror: tq [21:25] but can i just use the said commasnd to do it? [21:26] Chenthu: you might want to look at virtualbox [21:26] virtualbox?...u mean like a sandbox? [21:26] i remember using virtualbox in windows to try things out... you can really break something and easily revert [21:26] a lot of it is personal preference [21:27]