[00:36] <oscalation> hey greg-g  on a side note. I would really like to get away from gmail due to .. privacy concerns. Off topic i know but relevant to the prior discussion. I can archive my messages... but after 6-8 months gmail can hand them over to people without a warrant
[00:37] <oscalation> would much rather use a email service that protects my privacy
[01:18] <oscalation> ok so i requested to join the ubuntu bugs mentor program, is that all i do is request to join the group
[01:18] <oscalation> or do i need to email someone
[01:42] <micahg> oscalation: FYI, you don't need to subscribe to ubuntu-bugs to be part of the bugsquad
[01:50] <oscalation>     micahg not sure if i misunderstood but, im trying to apply for a mentor
[02:14] <micahg> oscalation: you don't need to subscribe to the ubuntu-bugs list for that either, the ubuntu-bugs list is just a mailing list that aggregates all the public bugs, it's actually not suggested to subscribe
[12:47] <tblambda> After installing Ubuntu Natty on a Lenovo G475, the box hangs whenever the LAN cable is unplugged. Same problem here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154523 . Any solutions?
[14:18] <bdmurray> mvo: could you look at my patch in bug 752195?
[14:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 752195 in apt-xapian-index (Ubuntu) "update-apt-xapian-index crashed with OSError in getmtime(): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/metamorphose2.desktop' (affects: 3) (dups: 5) (heat: 46)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/752195
[14:21] <mvo> bdmurray! I check it now
[17:40] <micahg> roadmr: FYI, it's better to suggest a new profile with Firefox rather than deleting stuff
[18:23] <roadmr> micahg: oh! sorry for the violent solution :( I'll take your advice next time
[18:52] <roadmr> micahg: I'm asking the tester to follow instructions on mozilla.com to create a new profile and test from there, I have no idea why he can't see the dropboxes, it still doesn't seem like a firefox bug to me but I'd like to know more before deciding
[18:52] <roadmr> on bug 814491
[18:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 814491 in firefox (Ubuntu) "unable to scroll list (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814491
[18:52] <micahg> roadmr: I thought I put a blurb on the Ubuntu Wiki for Mozilla Bugs
[18:53] <roadmr> micahg: oh yes! I'll send that instead, thanks
[18:53] <bdmurray> "The package was broken due to overclocking the processor."
[18:53] <micahg> roadmr: hmm, maybe I didn't add the blurb
[18:53] <roadmr> micahg: there it is "Try with a new profile"
[21:47] <jmburgess1> I have a question.  It seems like bug 784379 already has a patch in the upstream bug and is fixed in a later version.... What should I mark it as?
[21:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 784379 in gtk2-engines-oxygen (Ubuntu) "Oxygen-gtk style fails to load with Emacs (affects: 5) (heat: 60)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784379
[21:54] <charlie-tca> jmburgess1: is the fix in Ubuntu yet?
[21:55] <jmburgess1> Also I think bug 813153 can be traiged as Medium and bug 815867 can be triaged as medium as well.  I'm a new bug triager..so I could be wrong
[21:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 813153 in linux (Ubuntu) "frozen screen after suspension (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813153
[21:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 815867 in linux (Ubuntu) "second suspend crash the computer on ubuntu 11.04 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/815867
[21:55] <charlie-tca> You didn't answer my question?
[21:56] <jmburgess1> charlie-tca: sorry, yeah you are right it's updated in Oneric
[21:57] <charlie-tca> It is in oneiric, and they are requesting a backport to natty. It can confirmed
[21:57] <micahg> huh?
[21:58] <jmburgess1> charlie-tca: ok I marked it as confirmed and I'll put a comment in that says it's updated in oneiric, anything else I should do?
[21:59] <micahg> if the bugs is fixed in oneiric, it's fix released, if it's a full backport, a task against the appropriate -backports project should be added or a new bug filed against that project, if a cherry pick fix is planned for the previous release, a bug control member can nominate it for a previous release
[22:00] <charlie-tca> micahg: the bug itself requests the backport specifically
[22:00]  * micahg looks
[22:00] <charlie-tca> jmburgess1: bug 813153 stays in confirmed status. Brad Figg is a kernel team developer
[22:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 813153 in linux (Ubuntu) "frozen screen after suspension (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813153
[22:01] <micahg> charlie-tca: are we talking about the gtk engine bug?
[22:01] <charlie-tca> jmburgess1: same with the other one. If the bug report is against linux, and brad confirmed it, we leave it alone
[22:02] <jmburgess1> charlie-tca: Ok didn't know that
[22:02] <micahg> charlie-tca: that "backport" is actually asking for an SRU
[22:02] <charlie-tca> bug 813153 ?
[22:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 813153 in linux (Ubuntu) "frozen screen after suspension (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813153
[22:02] <charlie-tca> no, I got the wrong one, didn't I?
[22:02] <micahg> bug 784379
[22:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 784379 in gtk2-engines-oxygen (Ubuntu) "Oxygen-gtk style fails to load with Emacs (affects: 5) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784379
[22:03] <charlie-tca> yeah, that one
[22:03] <jmburgess1> yeah that one sorry for the confusion
[22:03] <charlie-tca> Why is it fixed released if it is requessting the backport or sru?
[22:03] <micahg> so, we can nominate for natty if it's worth an SRU
[22:03] <charlie-tca> oh
[22:03] <charlie-tca> I get it, now
[22:03] <micahg> charlie-tca: alternative is invalid, a task needs to be opened for natty or natty-backports :)
[22:04] <charlie-tca> yeah, my brain is foggy
[22:04] <xteejx> Hey guys
[22:04] <micahg> charlie-tca: yeah, I heard you had a long meeting this afternoon :)
[22:05] <charlie-tca> hm, looks "ugly"? that doesn't seem worth a sru
[22:05] <xteejx> bug 816145, Canonical are quick today, it's a friends bug report (my old laptop), had the problem for bloody ages, think its NetworkManager, any suggestions other that going through DebuggingNetworkManager on the wiki?
[22:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 816145 in linux (Ubuntu) "Atheros AR5001 wireless card "wireless is disabled by hardware switch" (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/816145
[22:08] <micahg> charlie-tca: it's mostly indentation changes, it's really a few line fix
[22:08] <charlie-tca> so, nominate it for natty?
[22:08] <micahg> charlie-tca: yeah, I think so
[22:08] <micahg> needs someone to do it though :)
[22:08]  * xteejx hides
[22:09] <micahg> hi xteejx :)
[22:09] <xteejx> micahg: Hey hey :)
[22:09] <charlie-tca> done, micahg
[22:09] <xteejx> Hey charlie-tca
[22:09] <charlie-tca> I can nominate them
[22:09] <charlie-tca> looking at it, xteejx
[22:09] <xteejx> no prob
[22:10] <xteejx> I've been gone for too long methinks, should be getting back into bug stuff full-time soon :)
[22:10] <charlie-tca> xteejx: any chance of having the latest kernel tested?
[22:10] <charlie-tca> no need to go through all the debugging stuff, just needs to test the kernel
[22:11] <xteejx> charlie-tca: I very much doubt it's the kernel, I'm guessing its not as low level as that, and that its net-man or wpa_supplicant, something like that
[22:11] <xteejx> I'll grab the latest mainline anyway, it might work
[22:12] <charlie-tca> It's filed against linux, though. The kernel should be able to manipulate the switch, I think
[22:12] <charlie-tca> okay, and then mark the bug that it was done. Then we can move to triaged
[22:13] <xteejx> No prob, I will work through net-man stuff after the mainline test just to rule it out
[22:13] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[22:14] <xteejx> Hopefully it's something simple, although I suspect it really isn't...it's my old lappy and it was a bugger before (part of the reason I gave it away but don't tell anyone :P )
[22:14] <xteejx> charlie-tca: btw thanks :)
[22:14] <charlie-tca> np
[22:18] <xteejx> quick question...how do I find if its a 32 or 64 bit install?
[22:19] <yofel> uname -m
[22:19]  * micahg should've told him to comment when changing bug statuses
[22:19] <xteejx> yofel: Brilliant thanks :)
[22:21] <xteejx> Is mainline v3.0-rc7-oneiric ok to test with a kernel bug in natty?
[22:23] <xteejx> *BUMP* :)
[22:28] <charlie-tca> xteejx: looks right according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[23:29] <xteejx> Hmmm, I may have narrowed it down. NetworkManager may not be the problem, but rather the kernel itself. It's not receiving keypress events through udev or acpi for the hardware button for the wifi on/off switch
[23:29] <xteejx> Would that be the kernel itself if it was the button not sending any events (the button does work)
[23:29] <xteejx> ?
[23:30] <xteejx> charlie-tca: You around?
[23:31] <charlie-tca> yup
[23:32] <charlie-tca> sounds like the kernel
[23:32] <xteejx> Hey
[23:32] <charlie-tca> Hello
[23:32] <xteejx> Though as much after messing around with it :(
[23:33] <xteejx> would it be a real problem if they don't have the laptop itself? It sounds like quite a mission getting one button working if they don't have the machine :S
[23:34] <charlie-tca> Not always. Sometimes they can make things happen with enough logs and information
[23:34] <charlie-tca> I think the button is proprietary, but I am not sure
[23:34] <xteejx> Hmm I hope so,am getting it in the ear lol
[23:34] <charlie-tca> Sorry
[23:34] <xteejx> yeah it's an HP jobby
[23:35] <xteejx> charlie-tca: Don't be sorry, I'm a triager and the local PC "expert" I'm used to it hehe
[23:35] <charlie-tca> It can still be depressing at times
[23:36] <xteejx> Nahhh, I find the words "shut the hell up, I'll get round to it" helpful ;)
[23:36] <charlie-tca> heh
[23:36] <charlie-tca> that too
[23:36] <xteejx> Damn kernel bugzilla "Error: Host 'demeter1.sql.kernel.bak' is blocked because of many connection errors" grrr!
[23:36] <xteejx> Would this bug be a good candidate to upstream as it is?
[23:38] <charlie-tca> That I do not know. I usually just triage them, and let the kernel decide what goes upstream
[23:38] <xteejx> Hmmm...
[23:38] <xteejx> Are there any kernel triagers in?
[23:39] <charlie-tca> nope, not here
[23:39] <charlie-tca> try #ubuntu-kernel, maybe
[23:39] <charlie-tca> give them the bug number and ask if it should go upstream?
[23:40] <xteejx> Cool thanks charlie :)
[23:40] <charlie-tca> you are welcome
[23:40]  * xteejx missed the community spirit :)