| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, IDK, is ubuntu.media.mit.edu broke? | 00:46 |
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| Shadow__X | tried another one and had the same issues | 00:47 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, did you try the official mirrors? | 00:49 |
| Shadow__X | no but i will now | 00:49 |
| tgm4883 | I'll check my 10.04 machine | 00:49 |
| tgm4883 | yep seems to work for me | 00:49 |
| tgm4883 | i'm using ubuntu.osuosl.org | 00:50 |
| Shadow__X | main server works fine | 00:50 |
| Shadow__X | is that fast? | 00:50 |
| Shadow__X | my biggest issue are the slow servers that do not max out my connection | 00:51 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, could be something wrong with those other servers right now | 00:52 |
| tgm4883 | I'd bet they get fixed in the next 24 hours | 00:52 |
| tgm4883 | ubuntu.osuosl.org works fast for me, but might be because it's in the same state as me (oregon) | 00:52 |
| Shadow__X | how fast is your mirror for you | 00:52 |
| Shadow__X | why are the list of updates when i use update manager different than when i run apt-get upgrade? | 00:55 |
| Shadow__X | apt-get upgrade is holding back kernel linux image and mythplugins | 00:56 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, they shouldn't be different, although depending on which update list it is working with I can see it being different for a short time (if the repo isn't in sync) | 00:56 |
| Shadow__X | i shouldnt have to run dist-upgrade to get those packages do i? I also dont want to upgrade past 10.04 yet | 00:56 |
| Shadow__X | i did apt-get update then upgrade | 00:56 |
| tgm4883 | yes you would need to run dist-upgrade, it's important to know what dist-upgrade does versus just upgrade | 00:56 |
| tgm4883 | dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to the next distribution | 00:57 |
| Shadow__X | it doesnt? thats how i have upgraded before | 00:57 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, no it doesn't, are you sure that is how you upgraded before? And if so, how exactly did you get that to upgrade you? | 00:57 |
| tgm4883 | The only way that could upgrade you to the next distro release is if you changed your sources.list file | 00:58 |
| Shadow__X | hmm maybe i did that then | 00:58 |
| tgm4883 | the difference between upgrade vs dist-upgrade is that upgrade doesn't have permission to add or remove packages (ie. new dependencies or conflicts) where dist-upgrade does have that permission | 00:59 |
| tgm4883 | that is why you will see packages being "held-back" | 00:59 |
| Shadow__X | not bad apt said i pulled around 6.6MB/sec for your mirror | 00:59 |
| Shadow__X | right i gotcha | 00:59 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, another way to get quicker installs/updates is to use multiple mirrors | 00:59 |
| Shadow__X | i found this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/apt-get-question-dist-upgrade-vs-upgrade-219920/ | 00:59 |
| Shadow__X | so it can do parallel downloads? | 00:59 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, yes | 00:59 |
| Shadow__X | oh ok how would i go about doing that | 01:00 |
| tgm4883 | oh wow, that thread is interesting | 01:00 |
| tgm4883 | It might have worked that way in 2004, when the thread was started. But not now. I see someone brought that back from the dead 7 years later | 01:01 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, you would need to edit sources.list and duplicate the list, then manually change the duplicates to another mirror | 01:01 |
| Shadow__X | ah could that introduce other issues? | 01:01 |
| tgm4883 | I don't usually recommend doing it though, as once you are setup there isn't much necessary for super fast downloads of packages | 01:01 |
| tgm4883 | hmm | 01:02 |
| Shadow__X | also how much space do you think it would take to create a local mirror? | 01:02 |
| tgm4883 | Depending if the mirrors weren't in sync, since they would be hosting the same packages it could cause dependency issues | 01:02 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, a complete local mirror? | 01:02 |
| Shadow__X | according to this just under 400gb | 01:03 |
| tgm4883 | A complete local mirror takes about 425 GB | 01:03 |
| Shadow__X | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors | 01:03 |
| Zinn | [wiki.ubuntu.com] Mirrors - Ubuntu Wiki | 01:03 |
| Shadow__X | thats honestly less than i would of though | 01:03 |
| Shadow__X | thought* | 01:03 |
| tgm4883 | yea thats about what it took when I did mine | 01:03 |
| tgm4883 | do you have a lot of systems you need to update? | 01:03 |
| Shadow__X | you have a local mirror? | 01:03 |
| tgm4883 | I use too, but I didn't like having one | 01:03 |
| Shadow__X | lol well as of right now i have 2 ubuntu servers | 01:03 |
| Shadow__X | and 2 OI servers | 01:04 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, might be better to use squid-deb-proxy | 01:04 |
| tgm4883 | it's what I use now | 01:04 |
| Shadow__X | hmm yeah i have a dual p3 1ghz box but the issue is it uses more power than getting a i3 machine would | 01:04 |
| Shadow__X | do you have any recommendations on what would be useful for a dual 1ghz p3 machine with 2gb of ecc ram? | 01:05 |
| tgm4883 | IMHO, The only benefit of having a local mirror is if you are installing new packages all the time | 01:05 |
| Shadow__X | hmm yeah which i am not | 01:14 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, so I say set up squid-deb-proxy and then it will cache the packages locally that you need | 01:16 |
| Shadow__X | yeah that may not be a bad idea | 01:16 |
| Shadow__X | tgm4883: any suggestions on what to do with the dual p3? | 01:17 |
| tgm4883 | Shadow__X, minecraft server? | 01:18 |
| tgm4883 | you could have it transcode stuff | 01:18 |
| tgm4883 | or make it a ripping station, IDK | 01:18 |
| * tgm4883 dinner | 01:18 | |
| Shadow__X | hmm yeah and ok enjoy | 01:18 |
| Shadow__X | thanks for the help | 01:18 |
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