[00:46] Shadow__X, IDK, is ubuntu.media.mit.edu broke? [00:47] tried another one and had the same issues [00:49] Shadow__X, did you try the official mirrors? [00:49] no but i will now [00:49] I'll check my 10.04 machine [00:49] yep seems to work for me [00:50] i'm using ubuntu.osuosl.org [00:50] main server works fine [00:50] is that fast? [00:51] my biggest issue are the slow servers that do not max out my connection [00:52] Shadow__X, could be something wrong with those other servers right now [00:52] I'd bet they get fixed in the next 24 hours [00:52] ubuntu.osuosl.org works fast for me, but might be because it's in the same state as me (oregon) [00:52] how fast is your mirror for you [00:55] why are the list of updates when i use update manager different than when i run apt-get upgrade? [00:56] apt-get upgrade is holding back kernel linux image and mythplugins [00:56] Shadow__X, they shouldn't be different, although depending on which update list it is working with I can see it being different for a short time (if the repo isn't in sync) [00:56] i shouldnt have to run dist-upgrade to get those packages do i? I also dont want to upgrade past 10.04 yet [00:56] i did apt-get update then upgrade [00:56] yes you would need to run dist-upgrade, it's important to know what dist-upgrade does versus just upgrade [00:57] dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to the next distribution [00:57] it doesnt? thats how i have upgraded before [00:57] Shadow__X, no it doesn't, are you sure that is how you upgraded before? And if so, how exactly did you get that to upgrade you? [00:58] The only way that could upgrade you to the next distro release is if you changed your sources.list file [00:58] hmm maybe i did that then [00:59] the difference between upgrade vs dist-upgrade is that upgrade doesn't have permission to add or remove packages (ie. new dependencies or conflicts) where dist-upgrade does have that permission [00:59] that is why you will see packages being "held-back" [00:59] not bad apt said i pulled around 6.6MB/sec for your mirror [00:59] right i gotcha [00:59] Shadow__X, another way to get quicker installs/updates is to use multiple mirrors [00:59] i found this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/apt-get-question-dist-upgrade-vs-upgrade-219920/ [00:59] so it can do parallel downloads? [00:59] Shadow__X, yes [01:00] oh ok how would i go about doing that [01:00] oh wow, that thread is interesting [01:01] It might have worked that way in 2004, when the thread was started. But not now. I see someone brought that back from the dead 7 years later [01:01] Shadow__X, you would need to edit sources.list and duplicate the list, then manually change the duplicates to another mirror [01:01] ah could that introduce other issues? [01:01] I don't usually recommend doing it though, as once you are setup there isn't much necessary for super fast downloads of packages [01:02] hmm [01:02] also how much space do you think it would take to create a local mirror? [01:02] Depending if the mirrors weren't in sync, since they would be hosting the same packages it could cause dependency issues [01:02] Shadow__X, a complete local mirror? [01:03] according to this just under 400gb [01:03] A complete local mirror takes about 425 GB [01:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors [01:03] [wiki.ubuntu.com] Mirrors - Ubuntu Wiki [01:03] thats honestly less than i would of though [01:03] thought* [01:03] yea thats about what it took when I did mine [01:03] do you have a lot of systems you need to update? [01:03] you have a local mirror? [01:03] I use too, but I didn't like having one [01:03] lol well as of right now i have 2 ubuntu servers [01:04] and 2 OI servers [01:04] Shadow__X, might be better to use squid-deb-proxy [01:04] it's what I use now [01:04] hmm yeah i have a dual p3 1ghz box but the issue is it uses more power than getting a i3 machine would [01:05] do you have any recommendations on what would be useful for a dual 1ghz p3 machine with 2gb of ecc ram? [01:05] IMHO, The only benefit of having a local mirror is if you are installing new packages all the time [01:14] hmm yeah which i am not [01:16] Shadow__X, so I say set up squid-deb-proxy and then it will cache the packages locally that you need [01:16] yeah that may not be a bad idea [01:17] tgm4883: any suggestions on what to do with the dual p3? [01:18] Shadow__X, minecraft server? [01:18] you could have it transcode stuff [01:18] or make it a ripping station, IDK [01:18] * tgm4883 dinner [01:18] hmm yeah and ok enjoy [01:18] thanks for the help