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bjsniderRAOF, do you get into a situation where the screen will go black for an instant with nouveau?00:35
RAOFbjsnider: More info required.  That could be VGA polling, but I don't use any VGA outputs.00:36
afiestasRAOF: well, I want to start by writting the daemon taht will hadle such things00:36
afiestasut I guess that I can start elsewhere00:36
afiestasor, if we agree on the format I can parse it myself like we do in Bluetooth with the pin-database.xml00:37
afiestasgoing to sleep now, send me an email with the status/plans/etc to afiestas@kde.org00:38
afiestasgood night/morning!00:38
bjsniderRAOF, i am using dvi00:42
RAOFHow frequent are these?  Any triggers?  Do they only occur with 3D?  How long do they last?  etc :)00:43
bjsnideri think it may be power related, because i have to stop using it for a little while00:45
bjsniderthe nouse pointer has a tendency to stutter unde nouveau00:48
bjsniderand i lost sound when i upgraded to edgers00:48
RAOFLost *sound*?00:49
RAOFThat's plenty weird.00:49
RAOFI'd guess at kernel fun!00:49
bjsnideri needed the 3.0 kernel for nouveau though00:50
bjsniderok, sound works again00:57
bjsniderRAOF, how can i have desktop tearing when there's no tearing in mutter?00:57
bjsnideri should be tear-free. this is an outrage.00:58
RAOFWhat compositor are you using?  Compiz?00:59
bjsnidermutter01:00
RAOFBut there's no tearing in mutter?  I'm confused as to what the problem is.01:00
bjsnideri am using mutter and getting tearing anyway01:01
RAOFAh.  Well, you'd need to turn on vsync if you want that to work :)01:03
RAOFThat still needs an xorg.conf option IIRC.01:04
bjsniderin nouveau?01:05
bjsniderwhy would anyone want to not have vsync?01:05
RAOFBecause it's as-yet lightly tested.01:26
bjsniderwell, it was almost stable. i might switch to it in oneiric01:33
bjsnideror when wayland is eventually used01:33
bjsniderguess i'll have no choice then though01:34
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bjsniderricotz, you're using gnome 3 with nvidia right?13:22
ricotzbjsnider, yes13:52
bjsniderhave you noticed the new flash plugin taking down the desktop?13:52
ricotzbjsnider, no, i am using 11.0  64bit version14:18
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bjsniderricotz, with what browser?14:26
ricotzfirefox 6.0b214:26
bjsniderdo you have chromium installed?14:26
ricotzno14:27
bjsniderwell, anyway, can you go to youtube and play a few videos over the course of a couple of minutes please?14:27
ricotzis the xserver crashing or only gnome-shell?14:28
bjsnidereverything stops except the mouse14:28
bjsniderkeyboard doesn't work14:28
ricotzso it is locked, perhaps in a loop14:29
ricotzdid you look for running processes while in this state?14:29
bjsnideryes but other than flash initiating it i can't tell what the problem is14:29
bjsnidercould be an nvidia problem, could be gnome-shell, who knows14:30
ricotzso you cant switch to tty1?14:30
bjsniderit's impossible to do anything except move the mouse14:30
ricotzssh?14:30
bjsnidertty1 would require the keyboard to work14:30
bjsniderdon't have another system to use ssh14:31
ricotzmhh, ok14:31
ricotzcurrently i dont want to trigger this here14:31
ricotzif it would happen too14:31
bjsniderthe 64-bit plugin is using vdpau now, so i assume it's somehow interfering with mutter or something14:31
ricotzso you are using flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311?14:32
bjsnideryep14:33
ricotzok14:33
ricotzand 280.11?14:33
ricotzwith mutter git and gnome-shell git?14:33
bjsniderno, 275.1914:34
bjsniderwith the packages from the gnome 3 ppa14:34
ricotzok, so on natty?14:34
bjsnideryes14:34
ricotzi am running oneiric with edgers ppa14:34
ricotzbjsnider, there are a lot of fixes since 3.0.214:35
ricotzperhaps you could try 3.1.3+?14:35
bjsnideri had a catastrophic sound issue with edgers so i had to purge it14:35
bjsniderhow, build the packages myself?14:36
ricotzsound? are you using hdmi audio?14:36
bjsniderno14:36
ricotzppa:ricotz/testing14:36
bjsniderthe 3.0 kernel was responsible14:36
ricotzok14:36
ricotztry to only update mutter and gnome-shell14:37
ricotztelepathy and json14:37
bjsnidertoo risky for my taste. i need this thing to work most of the time14:38
ricotzbjsnider, does this happen before the gnome3 updates update on the weekend?14:38
ricotzok, np14:38
bjsniderhappened before that update14:39
ricotzok, good ;)14:39
ricotzmhh, so i cant reproduce it here with your configuration, i will test it anyway later14:40
bjsniderif it's a flash problem it will happen anyway14:41
bjsniderbut i can't find a lot of complaints about it in the cloud, so i'm assuming it's somehow unique to my system (lucky me)14:41
ricotzbjsnider, btw, the 3.0 kernel is not mandatory using edgers ppa14:44
bjsnideri was considering intentionally breaking vdpau by temporarily moving the vdpau driver shared lib somewhere else and then testing it14:44
bjsniderricotz, ah, but it is if you really want to test nouveau14:44
ricotzbjsnider, right, but 3.0 is still far behind the nouveau kernel tree ;)14:45
bjsniderwell, that's the newest kernel i had available to me14:45
ricotzok14:46
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ricotzbjsnider, i cant confirm any problems here with flash17:14
highvoltagehi, anyone know how I can get the amd catalyst control center on natty? old documentation says I need the amdcccle package but that doesn't install any binaries19:00
bjsniderricotz, using firefox only?20:53
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ricotzbjsnider, yes21:11

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