bjsnider | RAOF, do you get into a situation where the screen will go black for an instant with nouveau? | 00:35 |
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RAOF | bjsnider: More info required. That could be VGA polling, but I don't use any VGA outputs. | 00:36 |
afiestas | RAOF: well, I want to start by writting the daemon taht will hadle such things | 00:36 |
afiestas | ut I guess that I can start elsewhere | 00:36 |
afiestas | or, if we agree on the format I can parse it myself like we do in Bluetooth with the pin-database.xml | 00:37 |
afiestas | going to sleep now, send me an email with the status/plans/etc to afiestas@kde.org | 00:38 |
afiestas | good night/morning! | 00:38 |
bjsnider | RAOF, i am using dvi | 00:42 |
RAOF | How frequent are these? Any triggers? Do they only occur with 3D? How long do they last? etc :) | 00:43 |
bjsnider | i think it may be power related, because i have to stop using it for a little while | 00:45 |
bjsnider | the nouse pointer has a tendency to stutter unde nouveau | 00:48 |
bjsnider | and i lost sound when i upgraded to edgers | 00:48 |
RAOF | Lost *sound*? | 00:49 |
RAOF | That's plenty weird. | 00:49 |
RAOF | I'd guess at kernel fun! | 00:49 |
bjsnider | i needed the 3.0 kernel for nouveau though | 00:50 |
bjsnider | ok, sound works again | 00:57 |
bjsnider | RAOF, how can i have desktop tearing when there's no tearing in mutter? | 00:57 |
bjsnider | i should be tear-free. this is an outrage. | 00:58 |
RAOF | What compositor are you using? Compiz? | 00:59 |
bjsnider | mutter | 01:00 |
RAOF | But there's no tearing in mutter? I'm confused as to what the problem is. | 01:00 |
bjsnider | i am using mutter and getting tearing anyway | 01:01 |
RAOF | Ah. Well, you'd need to turn on vsync if you want that to work :) | 01:03 |
RAOF | That still needs an xorg.conf option IIRC. | 01:04 |
bjsnider | in nouveau? | 01:05 |
bjsnider | why would anyone want to not have vsync? | 01:05 |
RAOF | Because it's as-yet lightly tested. | 01:26 |
bjsnider | well, it was almost stable. i might switch to it in oneiric | 01:33 |
bjsnider | or when wayland is eventually used | 01:33 |
bjsnider | guess i'll have no choice then though | 01:34 |
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bjsnider | ricotz, you're using gnome 3 with nvidia right? | 13:22 |
ricotz | bjsnider, yes | 13:52 |
bjsnider | have you noticed the new flash plugin taking down the desktop? | 13:52 |
ricotz | bjsnider, no, i am using 11.0 64bit version | 14:18 |
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bjsnider | ricotz, with what browser? | 14:26 |
ricotz | firefox 6.0b2 | 14:26 |
bjsnider | do you have chromium installed? | 14:26 |
ricotz | no | 14:27 |
bjsnider | well, anyway, can you go to youtube and play a few videos over the course of a couple of minutes please? | 14:27 |
ricotz | is the xserver crashing or only gnome-shell? | 14:28 |
bjsnider | everything stops except the mouse | 14:28 |
bjsnider | keyboard doesn't work | 14:28 |
ricotz | so it is locked, perhaps in a loop | 14:29 |
ricotz | did you look for running processes while in this state? | 14:29 |
bjsnider | yes but other than flash initiating it i can't tell what the problem is | 14:29 |
bjsnider | could be an nvidia problem, could be gnome-shell, who knows | 14:30 |
ricotz | so you cant switch to tty1? | 14:30 |
bjsnider | it's impossible to do anything except move the mouse | 14:30 |
ricotz | ssh? | 14:30 |
bjsnider | tty1 would require the keyboard to work | 14:30 |
bjsnider | don't have another system to use ssh | 14:31 |
ricotz | mhh, ok | 14:31 |
ricotz | currently i dont want to trigger this here | 14:31 |
ricotz | if it would happen too | 14:31 |
bjsnider | the 64-bit plugin is using vdpau now, so i assume it's somehow interfering with mutter or something | 14:31 |
ricotz | so you are using flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311? | 14:32 |
bjsnider | yep | 14:33 |
ricotz | ok | 14:33 |
ricotz | and 280.11? | 14:33 |
ricotz | with mutter git and gnome-shell git? | 14:33 |
bjsnider | no, 275.19 | 14:34 |
bjsnider | with the packages from the gnome 3 ppa | 14:34 |
ricotz | ok, so on natty? | 14:34 |
bjsnider | yes | 14:34 |
ricotz | i am running oneiric with edgers ppa | 14:34 |
ricotz | bjsnider, there are a lot of fixes since 3.0.2 | 14:35 |
ricotz | perhaps you could try 3.1.3+? | 14:35 |
bjsnider | i had a catastrophic sound issue with edgers so i had to purge it | 14:35 |
bjsnider | how, build the packages myself? | 14:36 |
ricotz | sound? are you using hdmi audio? | 14:36 |
bjsnider | no | 14:36 |
ricotz | ppa:ricotz/testing | 14:36 |
bjsnider | the 3.0 kernel was responsible | 14:36 |
ricotz | ok | 14:36 |
ricotz | try to only update mutter and gnome-shell | 14:37 |
ricotz | telepathy and json | 14:37 |
bjsnider | too risky for my taste. i need this thing to work most of the time | 14:38 |
ricotz | bjsnider, does this happen before the gnome3 updates update on the weekend? | 14:38 |
ricotz | ok, np | 14:38 |
bjsnider | happened before that update | 14:39 |
ricotz | ok, good ;) | 14:39 |
ricotz | mhh, so i cant reproduce it here with your configuration, i will test it anyway later | 14:40 |
bjsnider | if it's a flash problem it will happen anyway | 14:41 |
bjsnider | but i can't find a lot of complaints about it in the cloud, so i'm assuming it's somehow unique to my system (lucky me) | 14:41 |
ricotz | bjsnider, btw, the 3.0 kernel is not mandatory using edgers ppa | 14:44 |
bjsnider | i was considering intentionally breaking vdpau by temporarily moving the vdpau driver shared lib somewhere else and then testing it | 14:44 |
bjsnider | ricotz, ah, but it is if you really want to test nouveau | 14:44 |
ricotz | bjsnider, right, but 3.0 is still far behind the nouveau kernel tree ;) | 14:45 |
bjsnider | well, that's the newest kernel i had available to me | 14:45 |
ricotz | ok | 14:46 |
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ricotz | bjsnider, i cant confirm any problems here with flash | 17:14 |
highvoltage | hi, anyone know how I can get the amd catalyst control center on natty? old documentation says I need the amdcccle package but that doesn't install any binaries | 19:00 |
bjsnider | ricotz, using firefox only? | 20:53 |
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ricotz | bjsnider, yes | 21:11 |
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