[00:35] RAOF, do you get into a situation where the screen will go black for an instant with nouveau? [00:36] bjsnider: More info required. That could be VGA polling, but I don't use any VGA outputs. [00:36] RAOF: well, I want to start by writting the daemon taht will hadle such things [00:36] ut I guess that I can start elsewhere [00:37] or, if we agree on the format I can parse it myself like we do in Bluetooth with the pin-database.xml [00:38] going to sleep now, send me an email with the status/plans/etc to afiestas@kde.org [00:38] good night/morning! [00:42] RAOF, i am using dvi [00:43] How frequent are these? Any triggers? Do they only occur with 3D? How long do they last? etc :) [00:45] i think it may be power related, because i have to stop using it for a little while [00:48] the nouse pointer has a tendency to stutter unde nouveau [00:48] and i lost sound when i upgraded to edgers [00:49] Lost *sound*? [00:49] That's plenty weird. [00:49] I'd guess at kernel fun! [00:50] i needed the 3.0 kernel for nouveau though [00:57] ok, sound works again [00:57] RAOF, how can i have desktop tearing when there's no tearing in mutter? [00:58] i should be tear-free. this is an outrage. [00:59] What compositor are you using? Compiz? [01:00] mutter [01:00] But there's no tearing in mutter? I'm confused as to what the problem is. [01:01] i am using mutter and getting tearing anyway [01:03] Ah. Well, you'd need to turn on vsync if you want that to work :) [01:04] That still needs an xorg.conf option IIRC. [01:05] in nouveau? [01:05] why would anyone want to not have vsync? [01:26] Because it's as-yet lightly tested. [01:33] well, it was almost stable. i might switch to it in oneiric [01:33] or when wayland is eventually used [01:34] guess i'll have no choice then though === ara_ is now known as ara [13:22] ricotz, you're using gnome 3 with nvidia right? [13:52] bjsnider, yes [13:52] have you noticed the new flash plugin taking down the desktop? [14:18] bjsnider, no, i am using 11.0 64bit version === bdmurray_ is now known as bdmurray [14:26] ricotz, with what browser? [14:26] firefox 6.0b2 [14:26] do you have chromium installed? [14:27] no [14:27] well, anyway, can you go to youtube and play a few videos over the course of a couple of minutes please? [14:28] is the xserver crashing or only gnome-shell? [14:28] everything stops except the mouse [14:28] keyboard doesn't work [14:29] so it is locked, perhaps in a loop [14:29] did you look for running processes while in this state? [14:29] yes but other than flash initiating it i can't tell what the problem is [14:30] could be an nvidia problem, could be gnome-shell, who knows [14:30] so you cant switch to tty1? [14:30] it's impossible to do anything except move the mouse [14:30] ssh? [14:30] tty1 would require the keyboard to work [14:31] don't have another system to use ssh [14:31] mhh, ok [14:31] currently i dont want to trigger this here [14:31] if it would happen too [14:31] the 64-bit plugin is using vdpau now, so i assume it's somehow interfering with mutter or something [14:32] so you are using flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311? [14:33] yep [14:33] ok [14:33] and 280.11? [14:33] with mutter git and gnome-shell git? [14:34] no, 275.19 [14:34] with the packages from the gnome 3 ppa [14:34] ok, so on natty? [14:34] yes [14:34] i am running oneiric with edgers ppa [14:35] bjsnider, there are a lot of fixes since 3.0.2 [14:35] perhaps you could try 3.1.3+? [14:35] i had a catastrophic sound issue with edgers so i had to purge it [14:36] how, build the packages myself? [14:36] sound? are you using hdmi audio? [14:36] no [14:36] ppa:ricotz/testing [14:36] the 3.0 kernel was responsible [14:36] ok [14:37] try to only update mutter and gnome-shell [14:37] telepathy and json [14:38] too risky for my taste. i need this thing to work most of the time [14:38] bjsnider, does this happen before the gnome3 updates update on the weekend? [14:38] ok, np [14:39] happened before that update [14:39] ok, good ;) [14:40] mhh, so i cant reproduce it here with your configuration, i will test it anyway later [14:41] if it's a flash problem it will happen anyway [14:41] but i can't find a lot of complaints about it in the cloud, so i'm assuming it's somehow unique to my system (lucky me) [14:44] bjsnider, btw, the 3.0 kernel is not mandatory using edgers ppa [14:44] i was considering intentionally breaking vdpau by temporarily moving the vdpau driver shared lib somewhere else and then testing it [14:44] ricotz, ah, but it is if you really want to test nouveau [14:45] bjsnider, right, but 3.0 is still far behind the nouveau kernel tree ;) [14:45] well, that's the newest kernel i had available to me [14:46] ok === ach1m__ is now known as ach1m [17:14] bjsnider, i cant confirm any problems here with flash [19:00] hi, anyone know how I can get the amd catalyst control center on natty? old documentation says I need the amdcccle package but that doesn't install any binaries [20:53] ricotz, using firefox only? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:11] bjsnider, yes