[00:00] <Oer> deven_, open terminal,  cd to/the/folder  and : chmod +x <filename>
[00:00] <TrentH> 'When using empathy I click facebook and it's not working?
[00:00] <cypha> is ubuntu british based or something?
[00:00] <rumpe1> cypha, no, african
[00:00] <cypha> what's with "favourites" and "ubuntu software centre"?
[00:00] <cypha> the name is african, that's about it
[00:01] <deven_> ok i m trying that solution now rumpel and oer thanks
[00:01] <cypha> In the first 15 seconds AFTER logging into ubuntu, it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/pGYsK.png ||| and then after 15 seconds, it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/i6CGM.png ||| WHY IS IT CHANGING?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> cypha: its based in the UK. favourites is the correct spelling
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> mint is based from Ireland too
[00:02] <cypha> mint.com?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> cypha: not sure
[00:03] <cypha> what do you mean mint?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> cypha: linux mint
[00:04] <Pin> Guys I Have Ubuntu 11.04 and I installed Gnome 3 on it and it was terrible so many errors, I reverted back to Gnome 2.x.x. Im scared of what ubuntu 11.10 might be like
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> cypha: based on ubuntu
[00:04] <cypha> what's that?
[00:04] <oscar> hi all I need help with rhythmbox and an ipod classic 160GB: i can't edit the tags of the songs in my ipod
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Pin: works fine here
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> cypha: its a spinoff OS based on ubuntu
[00:04] <cypha> what's special about it?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> oscar: there are plenty of MP3 tag editors available
[00:05] <centr0> is there a way i can have 2 different sound outputs at the same time?  ie.  google hangout/youtube?  doesnt seem to work at the moment.
[00:05] <deven_> i want to right click on file and change its permission to open as program but it saying i can not do it bcoz i m not owner, is there graphical way to fix this?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> cypha: different default apps mainly
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> deven_: you will need to chown the file to your user
[00:05] <cypha> oh, that's silly
[00:05] <oscar> ActionParnsnip: but i want to edit trags of songs in my ipod... i also tried with gtkpod and couldn't do it
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> deven_: I know how to do it in terminal, why not use that...
[00:06] <alex--> Can I use webmin and ispconfig at the same time?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> cypha: tell me about it, there areLOADS of crappy spinoff OSes that simply use a different app set, they are not supported here
[00:06] <IsmAvatar> Update manager won't let me update. It says it "Requires installation of untrusted packages"
[00:06] <th0r> alex--: webmin is a no no
[00:07] <alex--> th0r: it can install software very easy
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get update
[00:07] <deven_> i went to folder where my file is, i right click on folder and opened terminal and typed sudo apt-get install <> file name will that do the trick
[00:08] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: lsb_release -a didn't seem to work. No LSB modules are available.
[00:08] <gilrez> I've installed apache2, php5, mysq-sever, and php-mysql from the Synaptic Package Manager. When I check ( http://localhost ) on firefox it says ( It Works )! But when I run index.php from netbeans 7.0 it says Not Found (The requested URL /Phptest1/index.php was not found on this server.) Can anyone help me?
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: ok try:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: use pastebin to give the text
[00:09] <IsmAvatar> yup
[00:09] <th0r> deven_: if you want to change the owner of the file, you need chown. If you want to make it executable, the command is chmod
[00:09] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/dtpCSPQZ
[00:09] <visionviper> Anyone here have any luck with getting Ubuntu 11.04 (64 bit) to install under EFI on a computer? After I select any of the options the screen goes dark and nothing happens :(
[00:09] <IsmAvatar> thanks for taking a look
[00:10] <yoyoned> !efi
[00:10] <deven_> ok so if for example file name is a-desk.installer  how to use chmod command to change it?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> visionviper: not tried personally. I don't buy apple rubbish
[00:10] <visionviper> Action: Neither do I, I buy Lenovo's crap.
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: no mention of untrusted packages there dude, looks smooth
[00:11] <th0r> deven_: if you read the man page for chmod, compose a proposed command line in a text editor I will be glad to explain where you went wrong
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> visionviper: try the boot option:   nomodeset
[00:11] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: tell me about it. Pretty much a fresh install of U11. The error lists this in the details: "apt apt-transport-https apt-utils banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore bind9-host compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc dnsutils evince evince-common firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-gnome-support firefox-locale-en flashplugin-
[00:12] <IsmAvatar> installer initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin libbind9-60 libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libcurl3-gnutls libdecoration0 libdns69 libevdocument3 libevview3 libgpod-common libgpod4 libisc62 libisccc60 libisccfg62 liblwres60 nautilus-dropbox unity unity-common x11-common xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-all"
[00:12] <FloodBot1> IsmAvatar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <IsmAvatar> shoot, sorry, wasn't expecting it to be that long
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: use pastebin
[00:12] <IsmAvatar> yes, sorry, sorry
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> its cool :)
[00:12] <IsmAvatar> http://pastebin.com/UUWm3cRJ
[00:13] <c001> Hi all
[00:13] <alex--> c001: hi
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: there is no mention of untrusted packages there
[00:14] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: so, workaround?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: i can't see an issue
[00:14] <c001> Has anyone here heard of the Cisco Linksys AE2500 dual band wireless-n usb adapter?  I am interested in getting this usb wifi adapter to work in Ubuntu.
[00:14] <alex--> Can I use webmin and ispconfig at the same time?
[00:15] <itaylor57> |webmin | alex--
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> c001: run:  sudo lshw -C network;  lsusb
[00:15] <itaylor57> !webmin | alex--
[00:15] <alex--> itaylor57: !webmin | alex--
[00:16] <deven_> thanks all for helping speciall actionparsnip, thor, oel ..... the problem was file was in ntfs its working fine when i pasted in ext4 linux partition
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> c001: if the lshw output doesn't show the chip, then the 8 character hex ID will help find guides
[00:16] <deven_> now it will work
[00:16] <alex--> itaylor57: i know, but i need something to manage my samba shares
[00:16] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9975312/update.png That's what I'm looking at. I click "Close" and the update never occurs - it just shows me the list of updates again and the "Install Updates" button activates again.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> c001: linksys don't make wireless chips, they buy them from atheros or broadcom and make adapters so the make and model is worthless as it doesn't tell use the chi pin inside, the command I ave WLL help identify the chip
[00:17] <th0r> alex--: why not use swat to manage samba?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: strange, it's not a huge issue but only a warning
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: try:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[00:18] <c001> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help.  I'm powering up my new fully upgraded sony vaio z series notebook to check this out.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> c001: if its a USB device, the make and model of the system is of zero interest
[00:19] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: so far, seems to be working
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: command line will always work where GUI fails
[00:20] <IsmAvatar> lol, guess so
[00:20] <visionviper> Action: just "nomodeset"? I still get a blank screen.
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset
[00:20] <alex--> th0r: i can't really add shares with it
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: over time you will use CLI more :)
[00:22] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: I've been using it a fair bit. I just like to use GUI as much as possible to test out how ready it is for various friends.
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: sometimes its needed. a lot of linuxes power is in cli
[00:24] <IsmAvatar> ah, that was nice of it. It left some kernel headers still needing to be installed so I can test out the update manager to see if it works now.
[00:24] <c001> ActionParsnip:  lsusb = "bus 001 Device 003 ID 13b1:003a Linksys
[00:25] <c001> lshw -c network i think its only showing network info for my network interface other than the usb one
[00:25] <mouse> is their an f? key that copy's screen?
[00:26] <meomic> hey, sorry about nonubuntu question - but im using ubuntu now and i have problem, i have ssh server installed and i want to use it as socks server - it works when i set it up in firefox as below: 127.0.0.1 port 1111 but i want my friend (same network) to be able to use it so it need to works also for 192.168.1.4 port 3218 - how can i make it to work like that? should i forward all incoming
[00:26] <meomic> 192.168.1.4 to 127.0.0.1? or?
[00:26] <ionite> why do i keep receiving this error vesamenu32: not a com32r image?
[00:26] <OldFarter> is there like a easy "package"/"bundle" one can "apt-get"  to get a fully functional "normal" linux build environment to compile stuff?
[00:26] <Halfside> I have a problem, when I apt-get sudo does not let me enter my password
[00:26] <StevenR> OldFarter: I think it's called build-essentials or similar
[00:27] <meomic> also sorry ive wrongly typed 3218 port - its 1111 port in both cases
[00:27] <Halfside> Im just wondering why I have this problem eh?
[00:27] <ionite> why do i keep receiving this error vesamenu32: not a com32r image?
[00:27] <alex--> What in webmin is causing these issues that it isn't being supported anymore?
[00:27] <IsmAvatar> Hmm, I didn't get to thank him.
[00:28] <MustardCU> OldFarter, build-essential and checkinstall you should look into.  I think they are both on help.ubuntu.com
[00:28] <centr0> how can i make sound work from 2 diff sources in 10.04?
[00:28] <kwixson> New to Ubuntu. Stuck in an SD card. How do I mount it from the GUI?
[00:28] <Halfside> Ie, we should be taking numbers to get help lol.
[00:29] <alex--> What in webmin is causing these issues that it isn't being supported anymore?
[00:29] <Halfside> Who is alex talking too.
[00:30] <alex--> anyone who can answer this question
[00:30] <Halfside> I wouldnt know,
[00:30] <th0r> alex--: you've been told....webmin isn't supported. I doubt you will find anyone here who knows why, or much cares
[00:30] <OldFarter> Thank you both
[00:30] <alex--> th0r: Why would nobody care?
[00:30] <Aaron_> lol
[00:30] <OldFarter> You guys save my keyboard from certain death
[00:31] <MustardCU> OldFarter, your welcome.  Address people's nicknames though.
[00:31] <c001> actionParsnip:  This website is what I get from 13b1:003a.  Should I search for an ubuntu broadcom driver?
[00:31] <th0r> alex--: webmin handles configs in a way that causes problems in ubuntu. What configs, what problems, I don't care, it is enough to know it will cause problems
[00:31] <c001> http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Linksys_AE2500
[00:32] <ionite> why do i keep receiving this error vesamenu32: not a com32r image?
[00:32] <OldFarter> Ubuntu  is strange..... at times it leaves me longing for the stability of slackware with windowmaker
[00:32] <th0r> OldFarter: or mandrake with enlightenment 16 <smile>
[00:32] <Halfside> nigh, might as well join the army's of people asking the same question over and over.
[00:33] <OldFarter> I mean.... i dont need that much stuff going on OUTSIDE the windows i have running...
[00:33] <Halfside> Does anyone understand/know why when im in terminal that Sudo does not let me enter my password.
[00:33] <zulax> Halfside, maybe it uses public key authentication and password auth is disabled
[00:34] <OldFarter> I ran windowmaker on slack wor the better part of an eternity
[00:34] <Halfside> I already checked that, it is enabled.
[00:34] <Reikoku> OldFarter: Eww windowmaker :P
[00:35] <mouse> ok how do i send an image to pastebin?
[00:35] <Reikoku> mouse: You don't, you use imageshack.
[00:35] <zulax> Halfside, what does it say when u type su root?
[00:35] <ionite> why do i keep receiving this error vesamenu32: not a com32r image?
[00:36] <Halfside> it asks for a password
[00:36] <MustardCU> inoite, your repeating that.  Explain your problem again
[00:36] <zulax> and you cant enter it? Halfside
[00:36] <noman> how to install graphics card software?
[00:36] <Halfside> No, i cant.
[00:36] <Halfside> when I press a key nothing shows up.
[00:36] <zulax> well that is the way it is
[00:37] <Reikoku> Halfside: password never shows in terminal
[00:37] <w30> OldFarter, I remeber that my Slack usr/local/ was quite large because I had to compile many apps that were not Slack ready,
[00:37] <Reikoku> Try typing it and hitting enter
[00:37] <zulax> Halfside, enter the correct pass and ENTER
[00:37] <MustardCU> noman, depends.  NIVIDA has some software on their site for people to install, for example
[00:37] <Reikoku> noman: whats your GPU?
[00:37] <zulax> I wish they changed that feature to something like random number of random chars, instead of empty spaces
[00:37] <Halfside> Zulax it does not let me enter any characters,
[00:37] <w30> OldFarter, I don't miss that
[00:37] <Reikoku> If you don't know run lspci | grep -i vga, noman
[00:37] <noman> i dont know if mine is nividi but i could find out what model hp my laptop is
[00:37] <zulax> Halfside, you wont see anything, just type and Enter
[00:37] <Halfside> It says wrong password so it making me lulz.
[00:38] <OldFarter> w30, i dont miss the compiling
[00:38] <Reikoku> noman: Run lspci | grep -i vga
[00:38] <MustardCU> noman, do that first.
[00:38] <zulax> so ur passwd is incorrect
[00:38] <noman> dv something ..
[00:38] <Reikoku> That will find your video card
[00:38] <OldFarter> but i do miss the speed and stability
[00:38] <Halfside> No, still not working
[00:38] <Halfside> its my right password.
[00:38] <Halfside> idk if I should say it here
[00:38] <Halfside> but it is.
[00:38] <Reikoku> Halfside: Are you trying to login as root or user?
[00:38] <MustardCU> OldFarter, what is your problem?
[00:38] <Reikoku> Sometimes ssh has root login off by default
[00:38] <Halfside> root, to install a program
[00:38] <Reikoku> Halfside: So youre ssh'd in as user and trying to sudo?
[00:39] <Reikoku> or you're trying to ssh in as root?
[00:39] <OldFarter> MustardCU,  11.4  instability is my problem at the moment
[00:39] <Halfside> Uh got no clue, I know nothing about ubuntu yet.
[00:39] <Reikoku> OldFarter: Slack still exists :P
[00:39] <zulax> Halfside, sudo cat /etc/sudoers and type your own password
[00:39] <zulax> see if you can open the file and see
[00:39] <ionite> why do i keep receiving this error vesamenu32: not a com32r image?
[00:39] <MustardCU> OldFarter, what's the problem with it's instability?  Unity, for example?
[00:39] <Reikoku> Halfside: OK, when you use sudo you type your own password, not the root password
[00:40] <Reikoku> MustardCU: Most of my ubuntu woes came from gdm :P
[00:40] <OldFarter> Well quite frankly it maybe a broken upgrade
[00:40] <Halfside> Zulax something happened, like stuff popped up,
[00:40] <Halfside> yeah im typing my password
[00:40] <Halfside> not root
[00:40] <zulax> Halfside, can you read the file? by typing your password?
[00:40] <OldFarter> cause my laptop will out of the blue take a dump (core dump) and restart
[00:41] <OldFarter> about twice every day
[00:41] <Halfside> yes. I beleave so.
[00:41] <Reikoku> OldFarter: Anything in syslog?
[00:41] <visionviper> I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 11.04 (64 bit) on a T420s but no matter what option I select I just get a blank screen. I have tried nomodeset and it doesn't help :(
[00:41] <zulax> if so you can probably install the program by just sudo apt-get install NAME
[00:41] <w30> OldFarter, Lubuntu gives you a Slackware flavor as far as the GUI simplicity goes. boot up a live cd of Lubuntu for kicks
[00:41] <zulax> Halfside, you do not need to login as root to install stuffs then, just do sudo and use your own passwd
[00:41] <Halfside> worked thank you.
[00:41] <zulax> (hopefully)
[00:42] <OldFarter> w30, or simply "apt-get" any windowmanager thats simple and clean...
[00:42] <claudia> hey guys, my laptop has the following wireless card: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[00:42] <claudia> but even though I've got the driver activated for it, I can't use the wireless capability
[00:42] <Reikoku> claudia: Ouch :( Is it a Macbook Pro by chance?
[00:42] <claudia> no, it's an HP
[00:42] <MustardCU> claudia, keep your questions on one line, please
[00:43] <Reikoku> Ahh, I had that card in my Mac and it was a nightmare claudia
[00:43] <alex--> claudia: new hp ?
[00:43] <claudia> sorry MustardCU
[00:43] <claudia> nope, it's a little old actually
[00:43] <noman> ati radeon hd 3200 graphics
[00:43] <alex--> claudia: i'm having the same problem on my new hp laptop
[00:43] <Reikoku> noman: You need ATI Catalyst driver
[00:43] <w30> OldFarter, Lubuntu has some added benefits of streamlined apps for some to save ram, cpu time etc.
[00:43] <guy_heckman> evening all
[00:43] <claudia> alex--: have you solved it?
[00:44] <c001> Guys, how can I get Ubuntu to see this adapter?  http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Linksys_AE2500
[00:44] <noman> where do i find that?
[00:44] <rhizmoe> how can i unmount / so as to label the partition?
[00:44] <OldFarter> Was there not something called Gentoo?
[00:44] <alex--> claudia: nope, i have windows 7 installed on it. When I have money I will buy a new disk and make 2 partitions on it, and then I will try to fix it
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> rhizmoe: you can't if you're booted into it now, use a livecd
[00:44] <zulax> gentoo is still popular i believe
[00:44] <th0r> claudia: I have a 4312 and I got it working finally. Give me a minute to post the info
[00:44] <rhizmoe> gparted on livecd? makes sense, thanks!
[00:44] <claudia> th0r: thank you :)
[00:45] <alex--> claudia: are you a girl?
[00:45] <rhizmoe> an irc-girl
[00:45] <alex--> rhizmoe: what's the difference?:P
[00:45] <noman> Reikoku?
[00:45] <claudia> alex--: is claudia a male name anywhere else?
[00:45] <rhizmoe> you'll learn
[00:45] <rhizmoe> eventually
[00:46] <guy_heckman> Ubuntu Server question: After enabling Kerberos authentication on a server how do you create a local password for a user? passwd wants to change the Kerb password
[00:46] <MustardCU> c001, there is a program called Windows Wireless Drivers at the Ubuntu Software Center.  If you have Windows on your computer too it may help
[00:46] <Reikoku> noman: I suggest getting the ATI proprietary driver, ask someone here how to do that :P
[00:46] <Reikoku> I don't use Ubuntu any more, I assume it's under proprietary drivers
[00:46] <th0r> claudia: here is how I got it working....https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Mother/dsfjwpqr4invio4u3ueriohfcv3i33
[00:47] <th0r> claudia: download the tar.gz and read the readme I wrote up. It wasn't hard to do, but took some digging to find the info
[00:47] <c001> MustardCU: I'm using ubuntu in vmware as my guest OS.  I'm passing the wifi adapter to my vm image without using it at all on the host OS
[00:47] <c001> at least right now i am
[00:48] <claudia> th0r: are you sure there is no typo in the link? I can't see anything :(
[00:48] <th0r> claudia: give it a few minutes....spideroak needs to transfer the files from my computer to the cloud
[00:49] <th0r> claudia: should be there. Click on Public and you should see a broadcom tar.gz
[00:49] <MustardCU> c001, don't know what to tell you then (of course this is the first time i heard about vmware.  Possibly ask on their forums?)
[00:49] <claudia> th0r: thank you, I'll dig through it :)
[00:49] <Kre10s_> anyone have experience changeing openbox fonts?
[00:51] <[BusDriverTom]> why do 25's appear in my smb.conf during every distribution or samba update?
[00:51] <thexion> hello
[00:52] <MustardCU> Kre10s_, I don't know.  Openbox have their own IRC channel?  You could look here but i don't use Openbox. http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/#OBthemes
[00:54] <[BusDriverTom]> and why after each and every update, after I've been asked by Kpackagekit or synaptic or apt, does samba connectivity between linux and windows machines cease? the web is full of this complaint.
[00:55] <MustardCU> [BusDriverTom], keep questions on one line, please.
[00:56] <[BusDriverTom]> my terminal is 1600x20. it is on one line.
[00:56] <[BusDriverTom]> chatroom protocol is more important than answering the question.
[00:56] <MustardCU> [BusDriverTom], sortof is but fine.
[00:56] <[BusDriverTom]> waste of my time,
[01:01] <alex--> [busdrivertom]: he means "why do 25's appear in my smb.con" and "and why after each and every upda" on 1 line
[01:04] <cypha> how do I know which version of xchat to get?
[01:05] <alex--> cypha: /about
[01:05] <cypha> xchat, xchat-gnome?
[01:05] <claudia> th0r: do I copy the broadcom_installation folder or the broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5 folder to /lib/firmare?
[01:06] <th0r> claudia: just a sec...let me check
[01:06] <claudia> th0r: thank you :)
[01:07] <cortexman> is there a way to run a command such that it thinks a directory in my home directory is the root of the filesystem?
[01:07] <wildbat> cortexman: chroot
[01:07] <th0r> claudia: after you perform those three commands there should be two new folders, b43 and b43legacy. Copy those two folders and what is in them to /lib/firmware. Those two folders are all you need, the rest is just stuff to create them
[01:09] <thefirstdude> hi I have packages being kept back after doing release upgrade
[01:09] <thefirstdude> how do i fix that
[01:09] <claudia> th0r: I don't see those folders, there are only drivers, include, and shared inside the folder  broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5
[01:10] <th0r> claudia: give me a sec to try it out again.
[01:10] <MustardCU> thefirstdude, readd the repositories?  I don't understand your question.
[01:10] <claudia> th0r: thank you :)
[01:10] <cypha> I added my irc account to Emerald, but nothing's happening
[01:10] <cypha> I don't see it connecting or anything
[01:11] <thefirstdude> http://pastebin.com/Zs55Heaq
[01:11] <cypha> how do I join channels, et
[01:11] <cypha> c
[01:12] <usr13> thefirstdude: apt-get -f install
[01:13] <th0r> claudia: I think the folders are automatically going to /lib/firmware...check to see if they aren't there now
[01:13] <thefirstdude> now i get: http://pastebin.com/XHEDERjU
[01:13] <claudia> th0r: you're right, they are there... so now what? do I restart the PC?
[01:13] <usr13> thefirstdude: Are you logged in as root?
[01:14] <thefirstdude> yes
[01:14] <th0r> claudia: that is all I needed to do. The wifi should show up in network manager, or wicd, whichever
[01:14] <usr13> I suggest you log off and back in as a user.  Then come back with your issues.
[01:14] <th0r> claudia: see if ifconfig doesn't show wlan0 now
[01:14] <deven_> i downloaded cursor theme and trying to apply it, it works partially but my original pointer of cursor remain same, how can i change that too?
[01:15] <usr13> thefirstdude: You just have a terminal open as root?  is that it?
[01:15] <thefirstdude> yes
[01:15] <thefirstdude> ssh
[01:15] <thexion> trying to install ubuntu 11.04 alternative from usb stick but installation always tries to find cd-rom drive and fails. what do?
[01:15] <usr13> thefirstdude: Oh ok.
[01:15] <usr13> never mind.
[01:15] <claudia> th0r: wlan0 doesn't show and the enable wireless option is grayed out on the network icon... let me restart the PC I'll be back in a sec
[01:18] <usr13> thefirstdude: apt-get -f install libboost-program-options-dev
[01:18] <cypha> how do I copy in the terminal?
[01:18] <cypha> ctrl C doesn't work
[01:18] <usr13> cypha: Just highlight what you want to copy and hit middle mouse button in terminal.
[01:18] <rumpe1> cypha, ctrl-shift-c/p
[01:19] <cypha> aahha, ctrl+shift+c
[01:19] <cypha> thanks
[01:19] <rumpe1> cypha, erm ... i mean ctrl-shift-v for paste
[01:19] <cypha> yeah
[01:19] <thexion> trying to install ubuntu 11.04 alternative from usb stick but installation always tries to find cd-rom drive and fails. what do?
[01:19] <cypha> what's up with this--> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[01:19] <dr_willis> you dont have it instgalled?
[01:19] <rumpe1> cypha, aptitude isn't installed by default in newer ubuntu versions
[01:19] <cypha> dr_willis, thought it comes packaged with ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <dr_willis> its not included by default on  ubuntu releases i thought...
[01:20] <cypha> oh, ok
[01:20] <cypha> good to know
[01:20] <dr_willis> synaptic is also being removed i think
[01:20] <dr_willis> i never use aptitude anyway :)
[01:20] <cypha> really?
[01:20] <cypha> in favor of what?
[01:20] <deven_> i applied cursor theme from gnome looks, its working partially, the only thing not changed from it is my pointer, how can i change my pointer to the one in theme?
[01:20] <cypha> i mean, synaptic is being removed in favor of what?
[01:20] <dr_willis> you got the software center.
[01:20] <cypha> oh
[01:20] <cypha> from what I recall, aptitude was the preferred method of installing stuff
[01:21] <dr_willis> 700mb on a cd fills up fast.
[01:21] <cypha> because apparently it doesn't screw things up when trying to uninstall?
[01:21] <KM0201> dr_willis: i thinkk thats a dumb move, software center sucks... i installed synaptic on 11.10, and it worked fine
[01:21] <rumpe1> cypha, just use apt-get
[01:21] <dr_willis> cypha:  ive never really heard  it being perfered on ubuntu.  but it dosent really matter.
[01:21] <cypha> how do you uninstall?
[01:21] <dr_willis> KM0201:  i never said it dident work.. its not installed by default..
[01:21] <dr_willis> !apt
[01:21] <dr_willis> :)
[01:21] <KM0201> dr_willis: oh i know, wasn't suggesting you did.
[01:21] <usr13> cypha: apt-get remove <package-name>
[01:22] <cypha> usr13, have you heard of people saying aptitude is better than apt-get?
[01:22] <molossus> which of these two is better for a laptop in terms of power management : ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS  or ubuntu 11.04 ?
[01:22] <usr13> cypha: Yes
[01:22] <dr_willis> i imagine some day they will have to get over the idea of sticking to a cd sized release.
[01:22] <dr_willis> molossus:   i would think the newer kernels would be better for that.
[01:22] <cypha> lol
[01:22] <wildbat> they should have start DVD/USB img as default media ~ cd is anicent ;p
[01:22] <cypha> usr13, do you agree?
[01:22] <usr13> dr_willis: Yea, I think most of us have DVDs and thumb drives and we know how to use them, so...
[01:23] <usr13> cypha: hope
[01:23] <Zorgsen> Hi all, quick question, anyone knows if I can get to all the files I have on my Windows part of the hdd when inside Ubuntu?
[01:23] <cypha> anyone here that can support the fact that aptitude is better than apt-get?
[01:23] <thexion> trying to install ubuntu 11.04 alternative from usb stick but installation always tries to find cd-rom drive and fails. Any ideas?
[01:23] <dr_willis> Zorgsen:  you did a normal install or a wubi install?
[01:24] <Zorgsen> Wubi
[01:24] <rumpe1> Zorge_, mount the windows partitions
[01:24] <Zorgsen> How should I do that?
[01:24] <cypha> thexion, enable it in bios
[01:24] <dr_willis> Zorgsen:  i think in wubi its allready mounted to some / location i never can rember.. check mount command Zorgsen
[01:24] <cypha> thexion, you need to enable boot from USB in some bioses
[01:24] <cypha> additionally, change the boot order
[01:24] <rumpe1> Zorge_, i usually use command-line "mount"-command or fstab
[01:24] <wildbat> Zorgsen: it is in /host i think ~if my RAM in brian is correct ( non-ECC RAM :<)
[01:24] <danilom> how to install flash in ubuntu im using chromium
[01:25] <usr13> Zorgsen: mount  #With no argument, it tells you what is mounted now.
[01:25] <thefirstdude> when i do apt-cache search i get packgs but no vrsion numbers
[01:25] <cntb> ubuntu now too slow what  graphical utility to terminate processes apps
[01:25] <thefirstdude> how do i get vresions
[01:25] <Zorgsen> There we go, /host was the correct place :)
[01:26] <wildbat> cntb: System Monitor can
[01:26] <cntb> wildbat thanks
[01:26] <usr13> danilom: cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[01:27] <ali_> hi
[01:27] <usr13> danilom: Do you have it isntalled for firefox?
[01:27] <thexion> cypha: no that is not it. it is already enabled and booting. in mid in install configuration it wants CD-ROM
[01:27] <ali_> xubuntu newbie here, i just downloaded a .deb file...how can i install it via the terminal?
[01:27] <vectory> ali_: dpkg
[01:27] <cypha> thexion, what're you installing?
[01:27] <danilom> usr13, om gping to install th flashplugin-nonfree
[01:27] <usr13> danilom: Are you 32bit or 64bit?
[01:27] <danilom> 32bit
[01:28] <ali_> @vectory, if i use the man dpkg command
[01:28] <usr13> danilom: Ok, never mind.
[01:28] <ali_> it will display a bunch of info on that command
[01:28] <vectory> yes
[01:28] <ali_> once i'm done reading that info how can i use another man command
[01:28] <danilom> usr13, i dont know if firefox have it
[01:28] <ali_> without having to close the current terminal and opening another
[01:28] <ali_> sorry if my question is a bit "stupid"
[01:28] <ali_> im a newbie
[01:28] <usr13> danilom: I don't either  ^_^
[01:28] <ali_> I've been fiddling around all day with ubuntu 11.04, then linux mint 11, and now xubuntu 11.04
[01:28] <RealOpty> can one do a distrobution upgrade in download only mode????
[01:28] <cntb> chromium is consuming a lot of CPU maybe more than  say 4 5 tabs is too heavy
[01:29] <usr13> ali_: yes
[01:29] <danilom> usr13, whats the differenc with flashplugin and flashplugin extrasound
[01:29] <thexion> cypha: ubuntu 11.04 alternative x86
[01:29] <th0r> ali_: you will be doing yourself a favour if you just pick one and  stick with it until you have it figured out
[01:29] <ali_> @vectory, any idea?
[01:29] <usr13> danilom: I don't know.
[01:29] <ali_> th0r, i like xubuntu
[01:29] <Zorgsen> Thanks guys
[01:29] <usr13> danilom: I just use adobe flashplayer.
[01:29] <Zorgsen> Bye
[01:30] <cypha> thexion, have you already entered in your preferred username and pw at that point?
[01:30] <Zorgsen> exit
[01:30] <muhammad> hi
[01:30] <ali_> i didn't like unity, and linux mint had software I didn't like
[01:30] <ali_> xubuntu is great as of right now :)
[01:30] <vectory> ali_: like, close it (q) and use 'man cmd' to view another one
[01:30] <ali_> oh okay thank you
[01:31] <claudia> th0r: I'm back... still doesn't work though :(
[01:31] <Guest48348> i m new in operating system building and i want to learn it could you please guide me to reach to my goal
[01:31] <cntb> oh my even the alt  tab is freezing for upto 3 - 4 secs
[01:31] <thexion> cypha: negative, configured video, locale, keyboard and then it probes for CD-ROM drive even thoug it is booting from USB stick
[01:31] <usr13> claudia: what's the matter?
[01:31] <th0r> claudia: the wifi card doesn't show up in iwconfig or ifconfig?
[01:32] <claudia> th0r: the driver is there, it's activated, but it does not show any ssid listed
[01:32] <th0r> claudia: you can see the wifi in network-manager?
[01:32] <Guest48348> did hear any one can help me
[01:32] <usr13> claudia: iwconfig wlan0 scanning   #Where wlan0 is actual name of NIC
[01:32] <cypha> thexion, are you going with default options?
[01:32] <usr13> claudia: iwlist wlan0 scanning   #Where wlan0 is actual name of NIC
[01:32] <usr13> Sorry other one was typo
[01:33] <claudia> th0r, usr13: it's listed as eth1
[01:33] <thexion> so far yes
[01:33] <cypha> thexion, also how large is your thumb drive?
[01:33] <usr13> claudia: iwlist eth1 scanning   #Where wlan0 is actual name of NIC
[01:33] <thexion> cypha 4 g
[01:33] <MrUnagi> where can i find a decent tutorial for setting up a mail server?
[01:33] <usr13> claudia: Network Manager is not working for you?
[01:34] <Guest48348> where can i find book for tutorial for learning building operating system
[01:34] <MrWizard> wlan0 is if its wireless, the eth0 designation is for ethernet connected wired internet
[01:34] <usr13> claudia: Are you on a wired connection now?
[01:34] <min|dvir|us> I'd like to 'trick' a program into thinking that /usr/lib is /usr/lib32. Possible?
[01:34] <claudia> th0r and usr13: for some reason there is this eth1 instead of wlan0 and I know my laptop doesn't have 2 rj45 ports
[01:34] <aeon-ltd> Guest48348: from scratch?
[01:34] <claudia> usr13: yes
[01:34] <ali_> hi guys
[01:35] <ali_> trying to install virtual box on xubuntu
[01:35] <usr13> claudia: Ok well one of them is the wifi.  What does iwconfig say?
[01:35] <ali_> im using sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-4.1_4.1.0-73009~Ubuntu~natty_i386.deb
[01:35] <aeon-ltd> !virtualbox | ali_
[01:35] <usr13> claudia: Sorry, what does ifconfig say?
[01:35] <min|dvir|us> ali_: Just install it from the repositories.
[01:35] <th0r> claudia:  is the b43 module loaded? 'lsmod | grep b43'
[01:35] <ali_> min dvir us
[01:35] <ali_> doesn't include it in the repos
[01:35] <thexion> cypha, basically I need to find a way to fool the installer to think my USB-Stick is the CD-ROM or point it to the debs in the iso on the stick
[01:35] <Snarsh> i've noticed that vlc has a/v sync off not on just one of my my movies, but on all of them. i didn't really mess with the preferences on the app until today to try to sync them, so it had the default settings being used. anyone else notice this problem with vlc? is it common? let me know if there is a better room to ask in
[01:36] <usr13> claudia: ifconfig -a | pastebinit
[01:36] <cypha> thexion, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:36] <cypha> make sure you've prepared the USB drive corrently
[01:36] <ali_> atleast not the complete version
[01:36] <sudokill> Snarsh, try vlc --reset-config and see if it works
[01:36] <thexion> done and done but no dice
[01:36] <seanp2k> what will let me convert ogg video (.ogv) to something youtube accepts?
[01:37] <claudia> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/651506/
[01:37] <th0r> claudia: just checked. I had to add b43 to the file /etc/modules. use sudo nano /etc/modules, and just add b43 on a line by itself. For now....just try 'sudo modprobe b43' in a terminal
[01:37] <claudia> th0r: no output
[01:37] <RealOpty> can i do a distribution upgrade, but only download the packages????
[01:37] <cypha> not sure, the installer shouldn'thavfe an issue
[01:37] <seanp2k> I think I want it to be in WebM format or like h.264
[01:37] <cypha> sorry
[01:37] <Guest48348> there is no body
[01:37] <Snarsh> sudo: wouldn't it have used the default config in the first place? i never made sync changes after downloading and the problem was there from the start
[01:37] <th0r> claudia: my bad...have to add that step to my readme file <smile>
[01:37] <usr13> claudia: iwconfig | pastebinit
[01:37] <thexion> the problem seems to be isolated to the alternative version.
[01:38] <MrWizard> ifconfig*?
[01:38] <thexion> the normal version works fine but exceeds my SSD capacity
[01:38] <cypha> what's different about the alt version?
[01:39] <claudia> th0r: I did the command... now what?
[01:39] <claudia> usr13: http://pastebin.com/v4jS7hTg
[01:39] <thexion> ironically it is supposed to be more versatile and customizable ;)
[01:39] <usr13> claudia: what is the essid of your router?
[01:40] <thexion> hence, more fitting for a lightweight install
[01:40] <Snarsh> sudokill: still not sync'd when i tried that
[01:40] <th0r> claudia: if things went well, you should now see wlan0 in ifconfig and iwconfig
[01:40] <uiuiui132> Hi guys. I have corosync configured in Ubuntu 11.04. However, "sudo /etc/init.d/corosync start" does not do anything.
[01:40] <uiuiui132> Instead, if I try "/usr/sbin/corosync", I have corosync up and running and I can configure resources as well. I got a virtual IP up successfully.
[01:40] <zykotick9> cypha, basically, the alternative installer is a text install with more hardware support
[01:40] <uiuiui132> Any ideas on what can be wrong with the init script(s)?
[01:41] <claudia> th0r: no wlan0, there are eth0 and eth1 but I know I only have one rj45 port
[01:41] <claudia> usr13: it's a hidden ssid... gaberivas
[01:41] <cypha> zykotick9, cool
[01:41] <usr13> claudia: iwconfig eth1 essid gaberivas ; iwconfig | pastebinit
[01:42] <usr13> claudia: Is the network manager not working for you?
[01:42] <th0r> claudia: work the iwconfig with usr13. If that doesn't work...we will attack it a different way
[01:42] <MrWizard> are you having a/v sync issues with any other software, or just the VLC?
[01:42] <claudia> usr13: http://pastebin.com/2bMBA3M9
[01:43] <claudia> th0r: sure... thanks a lot :)
[01:43] <claudia> usr13: what's the network manager?
[01:43] <Snarsh> MrWizard:  just vlc
[01:43] <usr13> claudia: Well it is taking the essid command for some reason.
[01:44] <usr13> claudia: what wifi card is it?  lspci |grep ireless
[01:44] <usr13> claudia: And looks like it is in AP mode, not sure why but...
[01:44] <MrWizard> while its only a temp fix till we can figure the issue in of itself out, you can always adjust a/v syncing via VLC itself, by using Tools> Effects and Filters> Synchronization
[01:45] <claudia> usr13: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[01:45] <MrWizard> but you will need to redo it for each played file so its kinda a tedious pain, takes a bit of trial and error to get a good sync that way
[01:45] <usr13> claudia: Oh.  Well h ave you loaded the b43 driver for it?
[01:46] <claudia> usr13: I think so... I followed some steps from th0r
[01:46] <MrFireBit> hi
[01:46] <MrWizard> ello ello ^^
[01:46] <Snarsh> MrWizard: it appears all of the videos are off sync by the same amount of time, that's why i thought it might be something to do with the vlc config. i heard there were problems with pulseaudio
[01:46] <usr13> claudia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[01:46] <th0r> usr13: we were working on that. we got b43-fwcutter done and were in the  process of loading the module
[01:46] <claudia> usr13: system -> admin -> hardware drivers shows it's activated
[01:47] <MrWizard> that would almost certainly be where the problem lies, have had a good deal of wrangling with pulse in the past -.-
[01:47] <usr13> th0r: Oh. Sorry.  Wonder what eth1 is.  (Becuase it should show up as wlan0)
[01:47] <claudia> usr13: that link is exactly what th0r guided me through
[01:47] <min|dvir|us> I'd like to 'trick' a program into thinking that /usr/lib is /usr/lib32. Possible?
[01:47] <dr_willis> ive had wireless cards show up as eth0 befor.
[01:47] <MrFireBit> i installed the last version virtual box, but i can't install ubuntu 64 bits the virtual box, why?
[01:47] <th0r> usr13: agreed. I think it loaded the wrong driver at boot. Make sure b43 is in /etc/modules to force it to load, then have claudia reboot
[01:48] <claudia> usr13: I'm guessing eth1 is what it was wlan0 before I did the steps
[01:48] <usr13> th0r: claudia  Ok. sorry.  Carry on.
[01:48] <th0r> claudia: did you add b43 to /etc/modules?
[01:49] <usr13> th0r: claudia Have you installed  firmware-b43-installer ?
[01:49] <claudia> th0r: that file seems to be empty, there are comments and it says lp at the end without the # sign for comments
[01:49] <claudia> usr13: yes
[01:50] <th0r> claudia: right, use sudo nano /etc/modules and add b43 on a line by itself after lp
[01:50] <MrWizard> would it be possible to use ALSA with ur VLC or r u stuck with using pulse?
[01:50] <dr_willis> MrWizard:  i thought you could set vlc to use alsa via its settings.
[01:50] <sudokill> MrWizard, choose alsa in the sound options
[01:50] <claudia> th0r: done... should I restart the pc now?
[01:50] <Snarsh> ALSA is possible, used it and still out of sync a bit
[01:50] <th0r> claudia: yes, let's see if we can get wlan0 on reboot
[01:51] <claudia> usr13: actually I did sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer and it says package not found
[01:51] <claudia> th0r: ok let's restart the PC, b right back guys and thanks for helping out :)
[01:51] <usr13> th0r: claudia That may be a problem.  But reboot and see.
[01:52] <th0r> usr13: I think it is b43-fwcutter, and we did that
[01:52] <th0r> usr13: it puts the firmware in /lib/firmware
[01:53] <MrWizard> cant speak for the validity of any o those Snarsh as I just found em, but going through the stuff now
[01:53] <usr13> th0r: Is she Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[01:54] <th0r> usr13: I think so. I recently got this (broadcom 4312) running using a ubuntu forum how-to, but my notes apparently missed a step or two <smile>
[01:54] <randomatix> After upgrade to Natty, menu & dialogue fonts are invisible in LibreOffice & OpenOffice.  Any suggestions?
[01:55] <FrozenFire> How can I configure my Ubuntu Server system to automount a LUKS disk on startup?
[01:55] <usr13> th0r: How about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[01:55] <claudia> usr13, th0r: iwconfig now shows a wlan0 but the enable wireless option is grayed out
[01:55] <usr13> claudia: Is this a laptop?
[01:55] <claudia> usr13: yes
[01:55] <usr13> Is there a switch?
[01:56] <usr13> claudia: Or F key?
[01:56] <usr13> function key combination....?
[01:56] <claudia> usr13: do you mean something to turn on and off the wireless card?
[01:56] <usr13> Yes
[01:57] <dr_willis> ive had problem laptops in the past where i HAD to boot to windows to use the switch/fn-key to turn them on, then reboot to linux for them to work. (and i never touch the switch ever again after that) :)
[01:57] <dr_willis> turn on the wireless i mean. :)
[01:57] <claudia> usr13: hold on... it's listing ssid's now. Let me unplug the cable and see if I can connect through the wlan0 interface :)
[01:57] <usr13> cool  ^_^
[01:58] <dr_willis> well off to work. see ya all laters.
[01:58] <usr13> really shouldn't need to unplug but..
[01:58]  * w30 has to go into bios and turn wifi back on even though the fn key says it can turn it back on by toggle 
[01:58] <usr13> You could unplug after connecting.
[01:59] <visionviper> Anyone have experience here installing Ubuntu 11.04 on an EFI system (not a mac)?
[01:59] <usr13> dr_willis: w30  I worked a Dell last week and had to turn it on in 2 places in the BIOS
[01:59] <MrWizard> ah true, if is been turned of in bios, it wont power it, so the Fn (function) shortcuts wont effect it
[01:59] <smw> I am using the ubuntu install disk. I just pressed esc to get to the grub cmd line (or whatever it is). What is the name of the kernel to run? I remember it just being "linux"
[02:00] <usr13> smw: Do you want single user mode?
[02:00] <usr13> smw: If so, it's    linux single
[02:01] <dhrosa> how would I go about viewing all the sound being output from ubuntu? I want to write a program that reacts to sound output
[02:01] <smw> usr13, that does not work. "could not find kernel image: linux"
[02:01] <claudia_> usr13, th0r: whooooooooooo it's working
[02:01] <MrWizard> BTW, any have any experience with atheros wireless sets and aircrack in ubuntu? keep having a handshake issue where wlan0 dumps to 'fixed channel -1" even if i set its channel to the one i need to be on
[02:01] <th0r> claudia_: congrats...glad I could help
[02:01] <usr13> cool!  (Good job th0r!)
[02:02] <raj> what is this chat account thing at the top right?
[02:02] <claudia_> th0r: thank you
[02:02] <claudia_> usr13: thank you
[02:02] <usr13> NP
[02:02] <claudia_> now I can go to bed :)
[02:02] <th0r> claudia_: keep that tar.gz file...in case you ever need to reinstall.
[02:02] <claudia_> byeeeeeeeeeeeee :)
[02:02] <usr13> haha  Have a good sleep
[02:03] <raj> does anyone use the chat account thing built into ubuntu
[02:03] <raj> ?
[02:03] <dhrosa> how would I go about capturing all of the sound being output? I want to write a program that reacts to sounds the computer is outputting
[02:04] <MrWizard> if its the same computer both outputting and capturing, you could write an extension for JACK audio
[02:05] <raj> dr_willis, hey
[02:05] <adriano> a
[02:05] <dhrosa> woops, I thought I was sending that to #alsa
[02:06] <kiichiro> How do I set up a static local IP?
[02:07] <vboxnetfail> trying to figure out why virtualbox vboxnet0 interface has stopped working
[02:07] <MrWizard> edit /etc/ network/interfaces
[02:07] <vboxnetfail> lsmod tells me all the vbox kernel drivers are loaded
[02:08] <MustardCU> kiichiro, since no one is awnsering you. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[02:08] <th0r> vboxnetfail: are you by any chance using vbox 4.1?
[02:08] <vboxnetfail> any pointers for steps to debug this?
[02:08] <vboxnetfail> th0r: yes
[02:08] <smw> what is the resolution of the initial screen of the ubuntu installer? Before you click "install ubuntu"
[02:08] <vboxnetfail> th0r: known issue?
[02:08] <intx> hey sorry to bother you guys, does anyone know how i would find out which package a file belongs to?
[02:08] <vboxnetfail> th0r: should i downgrade?
[02:09] <th0r> vboxnetfail: I just tried to install it today and it caused my system to lock up at shutdown. I had to back up to 4.0.12. Don't know if it will fix your problem, but might be worth a shot
[02:09] <vboxnetfail> th0r: ok, i'll give that a shot
[02:10] <vboxnetfail> does anyone have any pointers for debugging this in general?
[02:10] <vboxnetfail> i couldn't see anything in dmesg
[02:10] <joint> that new wddm driver in vbox 4.1 is no good
[02:10] <th0r> vboxnetfail: if you fall back to 0.12, remember you will need to reinstall the extensions and the guest additions
[02:11] <vboxnetfail> th0r: yep, thanks
[02:11] <joint> vbox has to learn how to properly handle a video card so u can install any game in it
[02:11] <joint> or wine needs to get a lot better
[02:12] <MrWizard> what game u trying to install?
[02:12] <joint> without gamers.. linux will never compete against windows
[02:12] <th0r> joint: not sure it should compete
[02:12] <richie> hello does anybody have any experience with XAMPP running on Ubuntu 11.04 (my questions is probably going to be a lot easier than you imagine)
[02:12] <ministerdude> The internet is stupid. How do I partition Ubuntu to allow a windows instal for a dual boot?
[02:12] <MrWizard> havent ever had a single problem getting any game i wanted to run in wine yet, tho getting LOTRO on took me like 2 days ><
[02:12] <joint> install windows first
[02:13] <ugly_duck> more like, without gamers linux will not become the operating system of choice, as if companies invest money into making games for linux so will hardware manufactures
[02:13] <MrWizard> lol
[02:13] <vboxnetfail> hmm, just found this:
[02:13] <vboxnetfail> NetworkManager[927]:    SCPlugin-Ifupdown: devices removed (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/vboxnet0, iface: vboxnet0)
[02:14] <richie> I'm basically struggling with making the xampp control panel launcher to put in my unity bar
[02:14] <vboxnetfail> on another machine, that directory exists, but its gone from the fail machine
[02:14] <richie> my command in the launcher at the moment is python xampp-control-panel.py but this does nothing
[02:15] <nit-wit> ministerdude, can you take a scrteen shot of the gparted partitoner a post a it in. http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[02:15] <joint> wine cant even install yahoo messenger
[02:15] <vboxnetfail> anyone know how to re-register vboxnet0 with NetworkManager?
[02:16] <MrWizard> would never want to install yahoo messenger in wine, or at all for that matter...im happy with ma pidgin ^^
[02:16] <ministerdude> Yeah. brb
[02:16] <nit-wit> thanks
[02:16] <th0r> joint: why install linux and then spend all your time trying to run windows software? Just run windows from the get to
[02:17] <joint> i just wanted to run windows games.. not windows software
[02:17] <joint> i can do everything else just fine in linux
[02:17] <slgma> anyone play 0ad? im having trouble installing it
[02:18] <richie> nobody? =/
[02:18] <joint> if games worked... which they should (vbox and wine just need to be better) then i can make linux my main os
[02:18] <slgma> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:18] <slgma>  0ad : Depends: binutils (< 2.20.51.20100909) but 2.21.0.20110327-2ubuntu3 is to be installed
[02:18] <joint> and not be a bitch to ms anymore
[02:18] <ministerdude> http://imagebin.org/164733
[02:19] <joint> why cant you people just make vbox and wine better
[02:19] <joint> start demanding it...
[02:19] <joint> have a protest
[02:19] <MrUnagi> can someone please help me set up a mail server
[02:19] <nit-wit> ministerdude, which MS do you want to install?
[02:20] <MrWizard> id protest, but for my needs WinE and VBox work just fine for my games...tho i do feel for ya joint...
[02:20] <ministerdude> xp home
[02:20] <ministerdude> It's just so I can have itunes
[02:20] <joint> i should be able to install any ms software in linux
[02:21] <richie> hmmm
[02:21] <richie> there's not a single person on who knows about launching python scripts from a .desktop file?
[02:21] <alex--> MrUnagi: not recommend if you need help with it
[02:21] <MrUnagi> huh?
[02:23] <nit-wit> ministerdude, okay the sda1 parttion can be shrubk with gparted on a live cd dfrom the left or right, I suggest moving the front to the right. Then build with gparted a ntfs partition in the unallocated space right click the ntfs the manage flags and click boot. When you boot the XP choose the custom install to install to the built partion. You will have to reload grub to the mbr after all the installation is done to have the grub boot menu again
[02:23] <raj> can someone give me some guidance about the builtin chat function in ubuntu?
[02:24] <richie> raj: what guidance do you need?
[02:24] <nit-wit> ministerdude, actually now that I think of it, just shrink the sda1 now to the left.
[02:24] <raj> richie, i setup IRC on it, but i don't see how to use it
[02:24] <djtornhurr> hh
[02:24] <raj> i setup AIM, but i don't see any user list for that either
[02:24] <DeJavou42> So, I have broken X
[02:24] <djtornhurr> h
[02:25] <richie> raj: you should first go into Chat Accounts.. from the speech bubble and ensure they're all connected
[02:25] <DeJavou42> Ubuntu 10.04 shows boot splash, then when it starts X-server, the monitor looses signal
[02:25] <ministerdude> K so how do I get the shrink to work?
[02:25] <raj> richie, they are
[02:25] <richie> raj: then click the mail icon and then click "Chat" to see your contacts
[02:26] <nit-wit> ministerdude, you have to do it from a live cd
[02:26] <vectory> DeJavou42: can u enter the shell with alt+f1?
[02:26] <ministerdude> Damn don't have one :(
[02:26] <frank> has anyone here used virtualbox?
[02:26] <DeJavou42> Previous to this, I put a ATI S9550 graphics card in the box, and I installed fglrx
[02:26] <MrWizard> Dejavou42: lose ur xorg.conf file?
[02:26] <nit-wit> ministerdude, or a gparted cd
[02:26] <ministerdude> downloaded both of them :S
[02:27] <raj> richie, GREAT, thanks!
[02:27] <nit-wit> ministerdude, I notice you have a ext3 partition what is the Linux install
[02:27] <vectory> DeJavou42: log in and look in ~/.xsession-errors
[02:27] <DeJavou42> don't think so, I've booted into recovery console and done a dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[02:27] <richie> raj: no problem, glad to help
[02:27] <ministerdude> OH! Can I make a live cd on my thumbdrive?
[02:27] <raj> richie, as a side note, what app is this?
[02:27] <nit-wit> ministerdude, yeah
[02:27] <DeJavou42> When I try to startx from recovery, I get no screens found
[02:27] <richie> raj: I believe it is empathy
[02:28] <raj> and as a followup question, how can I shuffle around the little icons in my menu and taskbar, or add new ones
[02:28] <raj> ?
[02:28] <MrWizard> ministerdude: try using UNetbootin
[02:28] <ministerdude> k now how to do that :S sorry I'm really new at linux and I'm loving it so far
[02:28] <raj> the clock and all the stuff next to it, seem to move together only, even when unlocked
[02:28] <nit-wit> ministerdude, which linux is installed now?
[02:29] <alex--> Are there any alternatives for webmin?
[02:29] <ministerdude> 10.04
[02:29] <joint> dont try to install any good windows games
[02:29] <nit-wit> ministerdude, cool the is a usb creater in prefernces
[02:29] <DeJavou42> vectory: wouldn't ~/.xsession-errors only post x errors for a particular user?
[02:29] <nit-wit> *there
[02:29] <vectory> hm, true
[02:29] <ministerdude> I dont' see one
[02:29] <DeJavou42> vectory: this problem is with the entire x server
[02:29] <frank> anyone know how to access files in virtualbox???
[02:30] <blade> how do i use a .run file
[02:30] <MrWizard> you could open terminal and "apt-get unetbootin", OR you could use the ubuntu software center and find it there, install it via synaptic package manager, or use the buiilt in one nit-wit speaks of
[02:30] <nit-wit> ministerdude, the usb creator or whtever it is called in 10.04 is a usb thumb loader
[02:30] <richie> raj: unfortunately I can't really help with that, I've never been too bothered with customisation
[02:30] <edbian> blade: ./file
[02:30] <th0r> frank: you share folders between the host and the guest OS
[02:30] <raj> np, thanks for the help richie !
[02:30] <richie> raj: no worries
[02:31] <MrUnagi> @mail
[02:31] <MrUnagi> !mail
[02:31] <blade> edbian, it's an install file ... with .run at the end.... how do i use ./file
[02:31] <MrUnagi> !postfix
[02:31] <richie> Does anybody have experience with XAMPP on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[02:31] <edbian> blade: ./file.run
[02:31] <ministerdude> maybe my versions retarded. can I download it from software center?
[02:31] <nit-wit> ministerdude, MrWizard speaks the truth.;)
[02:31] <frank> th0r: how do i do that
[02:31] <DeJavou42> MrWizard: the xorg.conf file should be fine. StartX gives Fatal Server Error: No Screns found and tells me each module it tried to load and an error for each module: ex. VESA, ATI, FBDEV
[02:32] <th0r> frank: From the Devices menu choose Shared Folders, then define the folder to be shared, and the name for virtualbox to call it
[02:33] <wsbl-uhpd651> Hello.  Does anyone know how to - update first, then run an full system scan - for Avira AntiVir in Terminal?
[02:33] <ministerdude> invalid operation through terminal
[02:33] <wsbl-uhpd651> The Linux version ...
[02:33] <wsbl-uhpd651> ministerdude: OK.  So how do I update and run it, then ... ???
[02:33] <wsbl-uhpd651> Might you know?
[02:33] <blade> edbian, not working... should i do sudo first?
[02:34] <wsbl-uhpd651> ministerdude: Might you know?
[02:34] <edbian> blade: idk then :(
[02:34] <Arm0ur> blade : try running ls -l to see the permissions of the file
[02:34] <ministerdude> I'm downloading from software senter now
[02:34] <joint> dont worry you wont have a virus in linux
[02:34] <richie> does anybody have experience with creating launchers for .py files?
[02:34] <ministerdude> center* wtf!?!
[02:34] <frank> th0r: the devices menu in wondows?
[02:35] <blade> Arm0ur, i did and i do not have permissions... "root"
[02:35] <th0r> frank: the devices menu in virtualbox
[02:35] <frank> th0r: ok ill have a look
[02:35] <Arm0ur> Its -rwxr--r-- ?
[02:35] <wsbl-uhpd651> Does anyone else know how to update virus defs and run Avira AntiVir (Linux version)?  What commands do you I use in Terminal?
[02:35] <Arm0ur> I guess you can elevate your permissions and run as long as the file is from a trusted source.
[02:36] <MrWizard> KA-CHOOO*   oops...hope none of u caught my virus ><
[02:36] <th0r> frank: I have a devices menu when I am running winxp in a vm. Shared folders are defined there.
[02:36] <nit-wit> wsbl-uhpd651, bitdefender and avast have very nice gui's if that matters
[02:36] <richie> must be really paranoid to install an antivirus on linux
[02:37] <th0r> frank: they can also be defined in the virtualbox main screen if you hightlight a vm and choose Settings-Shared Folders
[02:37] <gogeta> nit-wit: maybe hes cli
[02:37] <nit-wit> rich1, some people dualboot,
[02:37] <gogeta> wsbl-uhpd651: would -h give you a help list of commands
[02:37] <wsbl-uhpd651> nit-wit: OK.  I tried avast - and it's a trial version, right?  I did not know BitDefender had an app ...
[02:37] <frank> th0r: setting-shared folder. got it . ill try that now
[02:37] <nit-wit> wsbl-uhpd651, both are free
[02:38] <nit-wit> wsbl-uhpd651, the avast needs a tweak though to always open
[02:38] <wsbl-uhpd651> richie: I understand Linux is not affected.  However - it is still smart to be a responsible user, as you can still be a virus host as a Linux user without even knowing it.  It's a courtesy to others.  That's how I feel ...
[02:38]  * w30 says using ubuntu to screen files for virus virii before handing them off to Window machines makes good sense
[02:39] <richie> makes sense I guess
[02:39] <gogeta> wsbl-uhpd651: avast has a free version as well
[02:39] <ministerdude> This is taking a while
[02:39] <gogeta> wsbl-uhpd651: according to the docs it auto updates if you enabled it
[02:39] <nit-wit> yep
[02:40] <w30> that way your guard dog won't catch a cold
[02:40] <richie> Does anybody know anything about creating launchers for .py files?
[02:40] <wsbl-uhpd651> nit-wit: Avast is free - but you have enter in a license code?  And what is the "tweak"?  How do you "enable" it too - doesn't that require a command to be run?
[02:40] <nit-wit> avst needs to have a file adjusted though to always open
[02:40] <gogeta> wsbl-uhpd651: http://www.ghacks.net/2010/03/09/install-avira-antivir-on-linux/
[02:40] <gogeta> wsbl-uhpd651: how to start the u[dater  etc
[02:40] <wsbl-uhpd651> w30: Thank you for agreeing with me :)  I want to be responsible user.
[02:41] <alex--> Anyone who can help me with ispconfig?
[02:41] <wsbl-uhpd651> gogeta: Thank you!  Very helpful :)
[02:41] <w30> Is clam antivirus any good?
[02:41] <nit-wit> wsbl-uhpd651, I will paste bin the file info, you will just open it with the terminal. the avast key just comes to your email look at the site.
[02:41] <gogeta> wsbl-uhpd651: according to that the trial does not update
[02:42] <gogeta> wsbl-uhpd651: but i knoe avast has a totaly free linxu version nice ui etc unless your running cli?
[02:42] <wsbl-uhpd651> gogeta: Yeah - that's kind of a problem ...  What is "cli" ???
[02:42] <nit-wit> gogeta, can you link to that trial
[02:43] <gogeta> wsbl-uhpd651: command line
[02:43] <gogeta> nit-wit: what trial?
[02:43] <wsbl-uhpd651> gogeta: I looked at that website - and I didn't understand the commands listed underneath the "Usage" section.  Do you just enter in those strings whole in Terminal?
[02:44] <wsbl-uhpd651> gogeta: Ah - got it.  Pretty simple ...
[02:44] <w30> wsbl-uhpd651, cli is command line interface (no pictures)
[02:44] <nit-wit> gogeta, the avast
[02:44] <gogeta> nit-wit: looks like they took out the free linux one
[02:44] <nit-wit> nope http://www.avast.com/download-software
[02:45] <nit-wit> I missed the 30 daty tial.
[02:45] <gogeta> nit-wit: avg still has a free linux
[02:45] <nit-wit> cool
[02:45] <gogeta> nit-wit: so does clame
[02:46] <gogeta> nit-wit: http://free.avg.com/us-en/download.prd-alf
[02:46] <nit-wit> I found this http://www.avast.com/linux-home-edition
[02:46] <gogeta> nit-wit: but when you hit dl it will say does not work without a key
[02:47] <gogeta> nit-wit: so avg and clame seem to still have free linux edtions
[02:47] <nit-wit> gogeta, cool
[02:47] <DeJavou42> ok. so I removed my graphics card, and reverted to on board graphics, and I still get the fatal server error: no screens found when trying to startx from recovery console
[02:48] <gogeta> nit-wit: you dont need to relly abought linux getting infected thow only to scan windows files if sending to a windows box
[02:48] <nit-wit> gogeta, I wasn't asking about this
[02:49] <gogeta> wsbl-uhpd651: well where you watching us heh
[02:49] <nit-wit> lol
[02:51] <joshlegs> i has a question :D
[02:51] <gogeta> !ask
[02:52] <joshlegs> how do i purge a package? do i have to be in the home folder?
[02:52] <gogeta> joshlegs: no
[02:52] <joshlegs> so, what i be doing wrong here?  http://pastebin.com/LeWZu3M1
[02:52] <gogeta> joshlegs: in the sysnaptic ui you just slect mark for compleate removel
[02:53] <DeJavou42> does anyone have any ideas why xserver would not start with the no screens found error?
[02:53] <th0r> joshlegs: it is --purge I think
[02:53] <joshlegs> oh ok
[02:53] <gogeta> joshlegs: yes apt-get remove --purge packagename
[02:54] <joshlegs> http://pastebin.com/Yk0NeENV
[02:54] <joshlegs> cant find the package name. =\
[02:55] <gogeta> joshlegs: you remove it aruldy once before?
[02:55] <th0r> joshlegs: make sure you have the letter case correct.
[02:55] <joshlegs> ... i autotab completed it
[02:55] <raj> can i put the minimze restore and maximize on the top right instead of top left?
[02:55] <th0r> joshlegs: it might have removed the package earlier, when it failed to find a package named 'purge'
[02:55] <joshlegs> i really mucked it up :( i did some command while trying to get something for pyscrabble. ill give you the command i used ...
[02:55] <gogeta> joshlegs: was this a non deb install?
[02:56] <joshlegs> i think so gogeta
[02:56] <gogeta> joshlegs: then apt cant remove it
[02:56] <DeJavou42> my ubuntu box goes to a blank screen after starting x.
[02:56] <joshlegs> sudo apt-get -f install was a command i entered earlier. i think thats what messed it up ..
[02:56] <gogeta> joshlegs: you should made a deb after you compiled t
[02:57] <joshlegs> gogeta, i uninstalled it using the included uninstaller. then reinstalled it, but when i click the "application" icon in my start menu, it says bla bla bla /application.ini is not a directory
[02:57] <joshlegs> did i break my linux?? :D
[02:58] <gogeta> joshlegs: then you cant purge it with apt it probly left that menu behind just remove it
[02:58] <joshlegs> ah ok. ill try different stuff. thanks
[03:00] <lake> Is there anyone to keep nm-applet in the gnome panel forever
[03:01] <vin_> Is anyone here familiar with electronics and wouldn't mind helping me troubleshoot a npn BJT coupled with a relay??
[03:02] <vectory> vin_: wrong channel?
[03:02] <vin_> i guess so .. nycresistor is sleeping..
[03:03] <richie> Any recommendations on the strongest web development IDE for Linux?
[03:03] <LilleCarl> netbeans
[03:03] <LilleCarl> its good for everything
[03:03] <richie> code completion/code colouring, plenty of language compatability, and a nice GUI if possible
[03:03] <richie> netbeans, i haven't even heard of that one
[03:04] <cyperbg> lake is it gone after restart?
[03:04] <lake> nm-applet drops out of my gnome-panel from time to time and I have to run it by hand to get it back into the bar. I would like it to be in the bar always. Exactly like OS X.
[03:04] <LilleCarl> Netbeans got code completion ALOT of languages and a nice but a bit laggy gui
[03:04] <LilleCarl> Sun/Oracle is developing Netbeans
[03:04] <LilleCarl> check it out
[03:05] <lake> cyperbg: no, it dies when it disconnects sometimes
[03:05] <richie> I will certainly give it a bash, I mean I'm only going to be using it for the more obvious languages for the time being anyway, html/javascript/php
[03:05] <lake> cyperbg: dies meaning drops out of the panel. :p
[03:05] <richie> I haven't got round to learning Perl or JSP or anything more advanced just yet
[03:05] <cyperbg> lake and it asks to reload?
[03:05] <LilleCarl> richie, that will do it ;)
[03:06] <lake> cyperbg: not sure what you mean?
[03:06] <cyperbg> lake I'm using Gnome and the top right area with all the icons and indicators get dropped and asks to be reloaded
[03:07] <cyperbg> I was wondering if you have the same problem
[03:07] <lake> nothing asks me to reload it
[03:07] <lake> it just disappears
[03:09] <cyperbg> lake so you just add it again
[03:10] <lake> cyperbg: no, i just run `nm-applet`
[03:10] <cheryljosie> http://pastebin.com/11TVwhjL can someone please help me get my peripherals working?
[03:10] <lake> they he pops back up in the panel
[03:10] <cyperbg> lake and then when does it dissapear again?
[03:12] <raj> can i put the minimze restore and maximize on the top right instead of top left?
[03:12] <edbian> raj: yes, ubottu knows how
[03:12] <edbian> raj: I don't know how to get him to say it though
[03:12] <edbian> !lies
[03:12] <raj> seriously?
[03:12] <edbian> !windicators
[03:12] <edbian> raj: yes
[03:12] <raj> there's a trigger for that?
[03:12] <xangua> !controls
[03:13] <edbian> raj: For moving those icons in the titlebar yes
[03:13] <edbian> there it is!
[03:13] <edbian> told ya so
[03:13] <raj> cool!
[03:13] <raj> thanks!
[03:13] <edbian> sure, thank xangua
[03:13] <cheryljosie> http://pastebin.com/11TVwhjL please help me get my peripherals working its been months
[03:14] <xangua> bibop, just a bot, int3llig3nt, but a bot :P
[03:15] <cheryljosie> i barely got my graphics going please help my tv tuner and sound and printer are still dead
[03:17] <cheryljosie> is there anyone who can help?
[03:17] <edbian> cheryljosie: Why are all your devices not working?
[03:17] <edbian> cheryljosie: You're getting strange errors about your HDD there in dmesg
[03:18] <raj> edbian, on a similar note, can I make double clicking the dropdown menu (which is now on the top left corner) actually close the window?
[03:18] <cheryljosie> I have no idea what the problems are
[03:18] <cheryljosie> I know one sound card (emu) needs firmware but the intel should work and does not
[03:20] <cheryljosie> edbian the hard drive is working OK
[03:22] <raj> Can I make double clicking the dropdown menu (which is now on the top left corner) actually close the window?
[03:23] <jc> Hi all
[03:23] <devtekbeta> hi
[03:23] <cheryljosie> http://pastebin.com/11TVwhjL intel sound not working hauppage tv not working printer not working wireless not working
[03:24] <jc> hi devtekbeta
[03:24] <cheryljosie> is there anyone who can help get my sound and tv and printer and wireless working?
[03:26] <dlukz> i'm having some weird issues with my video card..and cant seem to figure it out
[03:26] <jc> cheryljosie whats your problem?
[03:26] <dlukz> i have 2 monitors, and i can'get them to be anything other than mirrored
[03:26] <cheryljosie> jc thank you this is a new install multiboot
[03:27] <dlukz> the videocard is a Radeon HD 4200
[03:27] <ejv> evening everyone, i just installed ubuntu server 10.04 LTS on an old dell dimension desktop; I have two PCI ethernet cards, both recognized by Ubuntu, an Accton SMC2-1211TX and a 3Com Corporation 3c905B, i'm not getting an IP address (via DHCP) from my router, is there something that needs enabling?
[03:27] <dlukz> any suggestions?
[03:27] <cheryljosie> jc i do not know how to configure linux and my peripherals require custom fw etc
[03:27] <khronics> does anyone have any useful links for me? I am having issues with my laptop processors running super hot. If I switch to windows 7 it runs at a normal tempurature. if i run Back|Track or Ubuntu the processors get super hot like 85 - 90 degrees cel
[03:27] <cheryljosie> jc I have managed to get a version of firmware for the hauppage installed but it will not scasn or view channels
[03:28] <cheryljosie> jc the two sound cards are stone dead
[03:28] <jc> UMMMMMM! Its good to be back... its like a return to oldies!
[03:28] <cheryljosie> jc intel sound is preferred on bouard emu is for later when system is working properly
[03:28] <jc> mIRC
[03:28] <jc> I missed tha
[03:28] <jc> that
[03:29] <jc> lol
[03:29] <jc> So whats up guys!!
[03:30] <IdleOne> !ot
[03:30] <cheryljosie> khronics it sounds like your fans are not running
[03:30] <nonickmic> if i have enabled file sharing via  shares-admin, and i have selected a folder to be shared on my other pc (ubuntu based), and on my lappy (ubuntu also) i have installed the shared stuff... and when i go to shared folders/network my other pc shared folder is not listed.. how can i troubleshoot this or try to connect. ??
[03:30] <nonickmic> i know if it was a windows machine i could do something like ... smb://ipaddress:port number/sharedfolder   or something
[03:30] <jc> Any vets here? since 1985?
[03:30] <jc> Lol
[03:31] <Noxton> Hi, guys!  In Ubuntu 11.04, is it possible to get XRDP (or VNC) to use the Unity desktop instead of the classic desktop?  I can't seem to find a config to sort this out.
[03:31] <IdleOne> jc: Please take the advice ubottu just gave about #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:32] <KM0201> Noxton: i don't see why not
[03:32] <jc> IdleOne whats that????
[03:33] <IdleOne> jc: if you are in the mood for chit-chat use #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:33] <jc> thats not my point!!
[03:34] <nonickmic> any ideas on my issue
[03:34] <Noxton> KM0201, everything I've tried has left me stuck with the classic desktop.  I'll research more, but we'll see.
[03:34] <jc> IdleOne any prob?
[03:34] <KM0201> hmmm
[03:34] <Noxton> JC:  you're spamming the channel, that's why they're telling you to use #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:35] <jc> Noxton do you think so??
[03:35] <sgo11> hi, my gthumb can not be started today. it worked yesterday. very weird. eog, shotwell work fine. any ideas? I don't see any error output.
[03:35] <dlukz> The selected configuration for displays could not be applied. Requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limitl: position=(1680, 0),size=(1680, 1050), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[03:35] <dlukz> this happened after running an update
[03:36] <sgo11> oh, error output just comes out: (gthumb:4855): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_file_info_set_icon: assertion `G_IS_FILE_INFO (info)' failed
[03:36] <op_amp> how to set different panels for different desktop number ?
[03:37] <alchemyxthunder> i need some help automatically mounting a NAS drive at login. surprisingly, google is failing to provide steps that have actually worked... or i am missing something very basic...
[03:37] <op_amp> I want to show only current active window in the bottom panel which are opened in currently selected desktop, not on all!
[03:37] <cheryljosie> http://pastebin.com/11TVwhjL can anyone figure out why my Intel sound card is dead?
[03:37] <c001> does anyone know how I can get this wireless adapter working in ubuntu?  http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Linksys_AE2500
[03:38] <dlukz> op_amp
[03:38] <dlukz> it's easy
[03:38] <dlukz> on the movable panel that has the list of windows
[03:38] <dlukz> there should be some hash marks(for moving the section around), right click, prefrences
[03:39] <dlukz> then select "show windows from current workspace"
[03:40] <jc> any girls here with linux REAL problems ?
[03:40] <dlukz> lol
[03:40] <dlukz> will troubleshoot for sex?
[03:40] <jc> neps
[03:40] <zaccagnino> ffffffff
[03:40] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[03:40] <jc> Linux REAL probs?
[03:41] <Kreative`> Can someone /mode +q him?
[03:41] <zaccagnino> MY KEYBOARD IS LAGGING ON BUTTONS AND IT WONT STOP
[03:41] <Kreative`> Thanks.
[03:41] <cheryljosie> IdleOne thank you
[03:41] <IdleOne> zaccagnino: no need for the caps
[03:42] <zaccagnino> i cant fix it
[03:42] <dlukz> anyone able to help me with my video card issues,
[03:42] <uabn93> can i get advice for znc bouncer on ubuntu? should i install it under the same account as root?
[03:42] <nonickmic> if i have enabled file sharing via  shares-admin, and i have selected a folder to be shared on my other pc (ubuntu based), and on my lappy (ubuntu also) i have installed the shared stuff... and when i go to shared folders/network my other pc shared folder is not listed.. how can i troubleshoot this or try to connect. ??
[03:42] <op_amp> dlukz, Thanks :-)
[03:42] <dlukz> op_amp, np
[03:42] <zaccagnino> i think i fixed it i got mad and punched my keyboard and it seems fixed
[03:43] <khronics> does anyone have any useful links for me? I am having issues with my laptop processors running super hot. If I switch to windows 7 it runs at a normal tempurature. if i run Back|Track or Ubuntu the processors get super hot like 85 - 90 degrees cel
[03:43] <somsip> zaccagnino: lol - maybe not one for the wiki :)
[03:43] <zaccagnino> but it will sometimes stop after typing a letter then repeat the letter until i push random buttons
[03:43] <zaccagnino> this began when i switched form windows
[03:44] <uabn93> khronics: i use a program called Jupiter. you can look at the webupd8 blog and install their ppa
[03:45] <cheryljosie> no one seems interested in helping just insulting so maybe I need to spend another year learning how to install peripherals the hard way i guess thanks guys later
[03:46] <uabn93> cheryljosie: i guess all the main ppl are out at the moment
[03:47] <khronics> •uabn93• Thanks! going to reboot and dive in :D
[03:48] <Barabanist> hello
[03:48] <sgo11> what?!?! gthumb could NOT be started 3 minutes ago and can be started now. why??! just doesn't make any sense. I tried 10 times before and all failed.
[03:49] <ejo> cheryljosie: you could try http://blog.zloether.com/2009/11/reset-sound-settings-in-ubuntu.html
[03:51] <DeJavou42> I am having a problem with xserver. I put a new graphics card into my ubuntu box, and tried to get the 3d acceleration working. I ended up adding the ppa xorg-edgers. Then I upgraded xserver from synaptic. This broke X, and I would get a blank screen after bootsplash. I then logged into recovery console and removed the ppa xorg-edgers and reinstalled Xserver-xorg. Now when the box boots, it boots to tty1 and I still get the no screens
[03:51] <DeJavou42>  found error when starting x
[03:51] <DeJavou42> Any thoughts?
[03:51] <owen1> how to view subtitles with parole?
[03:52] <owen1> i have movie.avi and movie.srt but i don't see the subs
[03:52] <op_amp> Is there a quick way to switch back to ubuntu from xubuntu?
[03:52] <lion42> owen1, no clue. Can you use another media player?
[03:53] <owen1> op_amp: i think in the login screen you can chose
[03:53] <DeJavou42> op_amp.. The only difference is the desktop environment
[03:53]  * op_amp trying>
[03:54] <owen1> lion42: yeah, i tried mplayer, but from some reason it's wide screen and i tried playing with -monitoraspect and it's still too small
[03:54] <lion42> owen1, vlc handles subs pretty well
[03:54] <owen1> lion42: and parole shows it bigger
[03:54] <lion42> Also, I just downloaded parole to check
[03:54] <DeJavou42> any thoughts on getting X working again?
[03:54] <lion42> and there's no option for manually loading subs
[03:55] <YES> hey i got a question, my bro play team fortress 2 on his pc but it barely runs good, how bad would wine make it?
[03:55] <lion42> so as long as movie.srt and movie.avi are in the same folder
[03:55] <lion42> it should load
[03:55] <owen1> lion42: not on mine
[03:55] <lion42> owen1, do you have "automatically load subtitles" checked?
[03:55] <lion42> (in prefs)
[03:57] <owen1> lion42: let me see
[03:57] <lion42> And are you sure that movie.avi and movie.srt are typed the same exact way?
[03:57] <owen1> lion42: yeah. i have it checked
[03:57] <lion42> This is a new install, I'd test with a video and srt file except I have none. :P
[03:58] <lion42> owen1, yeah, I got nothin' if they're the same filename and should be loading. Except, you know, try VLC.
[03:58] <owen1> lion42: ok. thanks
[03:58] <LtHummus> for some reason i have this phanton directory and i can not remove it...any ideas? http://pastebin.com/Y2LdYaKF (line 6)
[03:59] <wildbat> LtHummus: was it mounted ? try umount it -f if needed
[03:59] <lion42> owen1, if your subs don't load in vlc automatically, you can manually load them. "Video" -> "subtitles track" -> "open file"
[03:59] <owen1> lion42: cool. installing it
[04:00] <LtHummus> wildbat: it was mounted, but i unmounted it and it ended up like that
[04:01] <wildbat> LtHummus: what "mount" give you now?
[04:02] <LtHummus> wildbat: if I mount, it reads just fine and the entry is drwxr-xr-x  1 root root    0 2011-07-24 20:52 BATALI
[04:02] <LtHummus> but when i unmount it reverts to that weridness
[04:04] <wildbat> LtHummus: no i mean what "mount" show you ~ was it still mounted in the table? did you try "sudo umount -f /media/BATALI" to umount  it?
[04:05] <LtHummus> ah yeah i see what you mean....mount still lists it as mounted, sudo umount -f doesn't do anything (no messages to the terminal and no change to that mount point)
[04:06] <LtHummus> wait
[04:06] <LtHummus> just did it again
[04:06] <LtHummus> and it fixed it
[04:06] <LtHummus> thanks!
[04:06] <FloodBot1> LtHummus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:07] <op_amp> owen1, DeJavou42 thanks.
[04:08] <wildbat> LtHummus: this is forcefully umount ~ may be a run a fsck just to be safe.
[04:11] <Leftmost> I'm booting a virtualbox VM running 11.04. It recognizes the virtual ethernet card and loads the e1000 module, but doesn't create the eth0 interface. Any ideas why, or what I can do?
[04:13] <_gambler> can anyone help me with my dvd+RW drive. My computer is not detecting a drive at all, I've shut the computer down, removed the drive, cleaned the ports, reconnected and reboot and nothing.
[04:13] <dr_willis> Leftmost:     saw a similer oddity the other day in vbox. idid nit see the eth0, but when i did s dhclient eth0 it came up. not sure why.
[04:13] <dr_willis> _gambler:  you put in a data disk and tried to mount it by hand?
[04:14] <_gambler> no im just trying to get my laptop to detect the dvd drive
[04:14] <Leftmost> Oh, hmm. I just found something in dmesg saying it's renaming eth0 to eth2. Wonder how I can stop it from doing that.
[04:14] <dr_willis> _gambler:  so you are saying it cant boot from the drive?
[04:15] <dr_willis> Leftmost:  in my case it was going to eth1
[04:15] <dr_willis> Leftmost:  not sure why.
[04:15] <Leftmost> It looks like it's something in the persistent rules for the network.
[04:15] <dr_willis> i used the bridged networking and i thnik it went back to eth0
[04:16] <illogic> hi
[04:16] <_gambler> dr_willis: yes, the disc drive isn't detected by the computer at all
[04:16] <Leftmost> Messed with the udev rules. Shouldn't happen now.
[04:16] <[snake]> what package is the login screen?
[04:16] <dr_willis> _gambler:  so it sounds like a hardware issue then ;(
[04:16] <[snake]> ubuntu gnome 10.04
[04:16] <Leftmost> [snake], most likely gdm
[04:16] <dr_willis> [snake]:  gdm
[04:17] <illogic> what is the command line to show the desktop in ubuntu ? i am trying to make a keyboard shortcut and i don't know the command line :) pls help !
[04:18] <dr_willis> illogic:  im not sure there is one. thats basically the window manager m inimizing everything.
[04:18] <illogic> uhm
[04:18] <dr_willis> compiz prob has it in its plugins somewhere
[04:18] <illogic> i am trying to do the shortcut with Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:18] <illogic> and it asks for a command
[04:19] <VectorX> hi, is there a quick way to create a Multiseat system, i am planning on using ati eyefinity aswell
[04:19] <illogic> i don't know if its a terminal command it asks for
[04:19] <turgon> hello
[04:19] <_gambler> dr_willis: well i'm having an unbelievebly hard time trying to find the driver
[04:19] <dr_willis> VectorX:  theres some multiseat guides out. no idea how easy it is to do.
[04:19] <turgon> anyone uses centerim here?
[04:20] <VectorX> dr_willis just wondering since we have come so far now, id imagine there is some quick new way to do it
[04:21] <coolmariorocks> Will ubuntu allow Screen Resolution 1366 x 768  in Orientation Landscape
[04:21] <dr_willis> VectorX:  thats an old idea that has came , gone, came back.. ;)   i do recall some company that focused on multiseat setups and special hardware. they had a 2 seat version for free at one time
[04:22] <coolmariorocks> anybody?
[04:22] <VectorX> dr_willis yeah i know about them, but if you can do it for free why pay for it, after all they just setup the config files, ive done this manually, its just a bit time consuming
[04:22] <dr_willis> VectorX:  the way x auto configures may in fact make it harder to do. i recall the guides basically being a custom xorg.conf setup and gdm/kdm tweaks
[04:22] <turgon> hey any centerim user here? :)
[04:22] <VectorX> dr_willis correct
[04:23] <coolmariorocks> can anybody answer this question which is Will ubuntu allow Screen Resolution 1366 x 768  in Orientation Landscape
[04:23] <dr_willis> thats about all i rember from reading the guides  a few mo back
[04:23] <illogic> does anybody know ? what command i have to put in Keyboard Shortcuts for a show desktop shortcut ?
[04:23] <Atharva> Hi..I have just installed ubuntu 10.10 on a pc with Asus p861h m  lx motherboard..I am unable to start the desktop cube ,wobbly windows etc...In Additional Drivers No Properietary Drivers are found..please help..
[04:24] <coolmariorocks> cause i have windows 7 right now and it allows that screen Resolution but windows 7 has been giving me a lot of stupid problems like no low battery notification i might switch to ubuntu
[04:24] <illogic> Atharva, you have the cube installed ? compiz installed ?
[04:24] <Atharva> yes
[04:24] <coolmariorocks> if ubuntu allows Screen Resolution 1366 x 768
[04:25] <illogic> Atharva, you can start compiz ?
[04:25] <illogic> there's an option there for the cube
[04:25] <op_amp> i added alias xopen="xdg-open" in bashrc but I am unable to execute xopen . in terminal
[04:26] <wildbat> coolmariorocks: it support any resolutions up to 4096x4096 ~ you may have to config it manually thou if the system don't detect it ~ you can try the liveCD and see ~
[04:26] <dr_willis> op_amp:  you did log out/back in?
[04:26] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: startx results in no screens found. tried with ati card and onboard intel card. any thoughts
[04:26] <ministerdude> UNetBoot.  Distribution- Ubuntu, 10.04 Live, Type- USB Drive, /dev/sbd1?
[04:26] <DeJavou42> ?
[04:26] <op_amp> dr_willis, no. :(. Doing now.
[04:27] <coolmariorocks> ok Thanks :)
[04:27] <Atharva> Illogical : tell me about wobbly windows.It should start from Visual effects...isnt it ?
[04:27] <dr_willis> DeJavou42:  its not one of those new dual-gpu laptops?
[04:28] <DeJavou42> no, its a desktop pc
[04:29] <dr_willis> most intell should just work..
[04:29] <coolmariorocks> i seen ubuntu 11.04 in videos on youtube it looks awesome.  but i seen gnome 3 in some it looks weird.. xD
[04:29] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: it was working and then I added xorg-edgers ppa. and upgraded xserver from their source. then booting resulted in blank screen (no signal) after bootsplash
[04:29] <dr_willis> both are weird.. ;)
[04:29] <dr_willis> but have potential for awsome
[04:30] <dr_willis> DeJavou42:  shall i ask why you did that if it was working?  ;)
[04:30] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: removed xorg-edgers ppa, and got everything back to default. but its booting into tty1, and tty7 isn't running x.
[04:31] <dr_willis> did you do a ppa purge?
[04:31] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: upgraded graphics card from nvidia to ati. found a post that said xorg-edgers ati module was better than flgrx
[04:31] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: yep, ppa-purge
[04:33] <dr_willis> i cant think of anything else to try. i dont use ati.. so i wont even commend on  nvidia to ati being an 'upgrade'  ;)
[04:34] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: wasn't an upgrade as much as I had the ati card laying around, and it would do what i needed it to
[04:34] <DeJavou42> :)
[04:34] <dr_willis> DeJavou42:  you could check the 'dkms' status command and purge and drivers from all kernels. and try reinstalling them
[04:35] <coolmariorocks> will wobbly windows with compiz on ubuntu work with graphics card  ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
[04:35] <dr_willis> i had an odd issue once with drivers for an older kernel breaking a new kernel/driver setup
[04:35] <dr_willis> coolmariorocks:  should. bur woobly windows is sort of lame...
[04:35] <ejv> evening everyone, i just installed ubuntu server 10.04 LTS on an old dell dimension desktop; I have two PCI ethernet cards, both recognized by Ubuntu, an Accton SMC2-1211TX and a 3Com Corporation 3c905B, i'm not getting an IP address (via DHCP) from my router, is there something that needs enabling?
[04:35] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: it pulled up nvidia and virtualbox-ose
[04:36] <DeJavou42> I think I'm going to try putting the nvidia card back in now....
[04:36] <DeJavou42> :)
[04:36] <dr_willis> DeJavou42:  thats a start. id remove those ;)
[04:36] <dr_willis> remove the pacvkages and reinstall the ati. may work
[04:37] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: you mentioned purging the drivers from all kernels and reinstalling them.. what commands would do that?
[04:38] <dr_willis> apt-get remove thatnvidiadriverpackagename
[04:38] <dr_willis> nvidia-current perhaps
[04:38] <dr_willis> is this in a vbox session?
[04:39] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: gotcha, sorry wasn't thinking of drivers as packages..
[04:39] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:39] <LtHummus> I'm having trouble with smbfs.  I'm trying to mount a NAS I have, but when it gets mounted, everything's owned by root and I can't write to it
[04:41] <LtHummus> any ideas?  I'm mounting with sudo mount -t smbfs //batali/data /media/BATALI/ -o username=XXXXX,password=XXXXX
[04:41] <c001> does anyone know how I can get this wireless adapter working in ubuntu?  http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Linksys_AE2500
[04:41] <wildbat> LtHummus: mount with mount options -o uid=1000,gid=1000,............
 : I have started compiz and started the desktop and rotate cube disabling desktop wall.but still its not starting
[04:43] <snkcld> how does one switch from ubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-server? i dont see an ubuntu-server metapackage... coulda sworn id seen it before...
[04:43] <WaltherFI> snkcld: fresh install
[04:43] <snkcld> WaltherFI : thought so.. thank you
[04:43] <WaltherFI> there are so many differences both in the software and config
[04:44] <WaltherFI> it will be easier
[04:44] <Will123456> hey guys. for some reason my mail is coming into ~/mail, which is fine, but reading my mail (using the command mail from mailutils) is looking in /var/mail/[user]. how do i tell it not to?
[04:44] <irrumator_> hi, what is the equivalent of ubuntu lucid lynx/10.04 in debian?
[04:44] <irrumator_> is it debian squeeze?
[04:44] <mintux> how to change place of a window in window list in gnome panel.when I press a window and drag it to left or right nothing happen. I would like to arrange my windows on window list
[04:45] <Kreative`> mintux, you have to right click on the very very very edge
[04:45] <Kreative`> And select move
[04:45] <Kreative`> It's quite tricky
[04:45] <rww> irrumator_: Ubuntu 10.04 pulled from testing and unstable. Testing at that time was squeeze.
[04:46] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: I got it. Xorg.conf didn't exist in /etc/x11 so I copied a xorg.conf.backup to xorg.conf and Bingo! startx works again.
[04:47] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: but now, the box still boots to tty1, and x still isn't automatically starting on tty7
[04:47] <irrumator_> rww: so if i have package that's only available for ubuntu maverick and higher (and i'm on lucid) but which also has debian .deb packages, which one should i download?
[04:47] <WaltherFI> DeJavou42: sounds like a graphics card driver issue
[04:47] <irrumator_> squeeze, wheezy, or sid?
[04:48] <rww> irrumator_: which package?
[04:48] <irrumator_> bluetile
[04:48] <WaltherFI> irrumator_: i'd stick with the 'personalized' ubuntu packages
[04:48] <irrumator_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bluetile
[04:49] <rww> irrumator_: I'd probably pull mavericks, but the correct answer is "none of them, version mixing is unsupported in #ubuntu"
[04:49] <rww> s/ks/k's/
[04:50] <irrumator_> rww: but won't it bring up errors saying it's not maverick i'm running?
[04:50] <rww> irrumator_: unlikely
[04:50] <rww> assuming the dependencies can be fulfilled by lucid, anyway
[04:50] <irrumator_> ok. will give it a try. thanks rww
[04:51] <dr_willis> DeJavou42:  the gdm service starts?
[04:52] <LtHummus> wildbat: once again, you've saved the day...thanks!
[04:52] <wildbat> LtHummus: You're welcome.
[04:54] <LtHummus> wildbat: one more question, is there a way i can add that whole shebang to some config file somewhere to have that volume auto mount on system boot?
[04:55] <wildbat> !fstab > LtHummus
[04:55] <LtHummus> wildbat: thanks :)
[04:57] <lauratika> i'm having problems with deluge (freezes my ubunutu natty badly) so im trying transmission. is there a way i can transfer the torrents to transmission on the amount downloaded, so i dont have to download everything all over again.?
[04:58] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: yup gdm starts
[04:59] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: but i don't get the login screen. Instead I have to log in from tty1 and then startx opens my gnome desktop (because I'm already logged in)
[04:59] <DeJavou42> Dr_willis: I guess now, I need to make x start automatically on boot...
[05:01] <lauratika> sorry for my english...laura dont speak that well  :)
[05:01] <wildbat> lauratika: you should be able to ~ just mv the dl.ed to there(rename if you have to, if you don't know the names, make a quick start and stop in the tranmission,it should create the partitally DLed file )~ it should recheck it, I use utorrent thou ~
[05:01] <dr_willis> DeJavou42:  be sure gdm is set to start at boot time
[05:02] <lauratika> wildbat: oh my
[05:02] <lauratika> what is dl.ed
[05:02] <dr_willis> DeJavou42:  should be a /etc/init/gdm.conf
[05:02] <wildbat> lauratika: downloaded
[05:02] <dr_willis> bbl. gotta do some work
[05:03] <DeJavou42> dr_willis: thanks for the help!
[05:03] <cheryljosie> is there a good resource for learning to install and configure marginally supported peripherals? not having any luck with chat or googling everything ini sight
[05:03] <lauratika> another way to ask this is how to move seedings from one client to another... sounds a bit complicates
[05:05] <wildbat> lauratika: that's not seed ~ just partitally downloaded file. and there is no easywhere ~ as those client don't communicate. if you found one let me know.
[05:05] <mouse> 4mb stick for an arm processor using ubuntu anyone know what i need to do to get the zip file to a tar file and copy that to a Dreamplug using a marvell processor?
[05:05] <mouse> oops that was ugly
[05:05] <i5noc> bah
[05:06] <i5noc> first, unzip to unzip, tar to tar
[05:06] <i5noc> dunno about dreamplug
[05:06] <bindi> hey, I'm using tightvnc server, and it seems that the super key is somehow jammed (or something similiar); if I press D, any applications get minimized and it shows the desktop. It's not my keyboard, and theres no keyboard connected to the machine locally.. also ctrl and alt are not pressed
[05:07] <lauratika> wildbat: you are so rigth
[05:07] <bindi> tightvnc server on ubuntu, and viewer on windows
[05:07] <i5noc> try pulling up the visual keyboard
[05:07] <lauratika> now what you mean with mv
[05:07] <i5noc> should be in the access tech section
[05:07] <i5noc> 2 bindi
[05:08] <bindi> i5noc: uh... access tech section?
[05:08] <i5noc> handicap stuff
[05:08] <i5noc> you havnt said the distro of wincrap so i dont have much more for you
[05:08] <i5noc> try clicking on desktop and pushing f1 if itl let you
[05:08] <i5noc> otherwise try google
[05:08] <bindi> uh, windows and the virtual keyboard?
[05:09] <wsbl-uhpd651> I have quick question.  I was just on here - while I was asking a question about an antivirus - a user named "Mr. Wizard" gave only one message, which stated "KACHOO* hope nobody caught my virus" ... Was this to be trusted?
[05:09] <mouse> yes i'm using the serial on gtkterm to connect and i need a workaround to get a zip file for dreamplug computer using marvell processor worked through ubuntu to unzip but the zip file is partitioned for use on the dreamplug anyone with any ideas
[05:09] <wildbat> lauratika: mv is a command in linux mean move
[05:09] <bindi> i5noc: I'm using windows 7 and ubuntu 10.04 - problem isnt on windows side, since I can open my start menu fine with the windows button
[05:09]  * i5noc shrugs
[05:09] <i5noc> then setup remote desktop
[05:09] <lauratika> wilbat: what will happen if i uninstall deuge where my downloading files are and reinstall? will i loose the downloads?
[05:10] <i5noc> could just be the keyboard type / layout is not being transmitted correctly
[05:11] <wsbl-uhpd651> Did anyone see my first post?  Can a virus be transmitted via this IRC chat?
[05:11] <mouse> ok if i was using a VAT terminal is there a way to unzip those files on a x86 processor?
[05:11] <i5noc> lol
[05:11] <i5noc> wsbl-uhpd651, check your status for ctcp issues
[05:11] <i5noc> your probably fine
[05:11] <i5noc> its not exactly efnet
[05:12] <i5noc> go to #freenode and ask about that person etc
[05:12] <wsbl-uhpd651> i5noc: ???  What do you mean?  How do you that?
[05:12] <i5noc> wsbl-uhpd651, youve not given any information thats relevant
[05:12] <i5noc> if you want an issue troubleshot you need to a. consider the forum your asking, and b. give enough information to replicate
[05:12] <i5noc> so:
[05:12] <wildbat> lauratika: i suggest you move your files to new client be4 uninstalling it.  i don't think the downloading files will be removed thou but better to be safe. it is locate whereever you set your temp download folder is.
[05:13] <i5noc> if i'm in some wild channel and someone says whatever, i'm going to look for the tab labeled 'freenode' on my xchat; in irssi its in the first window (#1) etc
[05:13] <i5noc> there it shows when you connect to the server and such, but we don't even know if your webbased
[05:13] <i5noc> anyway the proper forum for your question is not in this channel, but instead in #freenode
[05:13] <i5noc> so join #freenode and ask and a network operator will be able to walk you through everything ;)
[05:14] <lauratika> wildbat thanx!
[05:14] <wsbl-uhpd651> i5noc: All I am saying is that when "MrWizard" got on here and said "KACHOO* hope nobody caught my virus" - that seemed a little strange to me ...
[05:15] <rww> wsbl-uhpd651: that was a joke :P
[05:15] <wsbl-uhpd651> rww: what do mean?  You are saying don't worry about it, aren't you :)
[05:16] <rww> wsbl-uhpd651: yes
[05:16] <silare> What's the char limit for a deb package's name, version number, and the small description in Synaptic in the list?
[05:17] <wsbl-uhpd651> rww: OK.  I just seemed strange - because he didn't say anything else.  I guess nothing can be transmitted via IRC chat ...  I'm sorry - I'll admit I'm still a newbie at Linux ...
[05:17] <wsbl-uhpd651> rww: thanks for your patience ...
[05:18] <wsbl-uhpd651> I have another quick question.  Certain dialogues on here are posted to IRCAnswers.com ... right?  Is this standard?
[05:19] <wsbl-uhpd651> They are posted to IRCAnswers.com - if they will be particularly useful to someone else ...
[05:19] <wsbl-uhpd651> right?
[05:20] <rww> wsbl-uhpd651: IRCAnswers isn't maintained by us. You'd need to ask them about it.
[05:20] <rww> (and yes, IRCAnswersBot sits in here)
[05:20] <wsbl-uhpd651> rww: OK.  So this is knowledge bank for Linux maintained by someone else?
[05:21] <rww> wsbl-uhpd651: allegedly
[05:21] <wsbl-uhpd651> rww: It's new to me - and you obviously know about it - so that's why I ask.
[05:21] <hmax> hi
[05:21] <hmax> what's the right way to set permissions for volumes mounted with nautilus?
[05:23] <wildbat> hmax: select the files, right click it ,Properties
[05:23] <hmax> well, i'll have to do it every time I mount volume then
[05:23] <hmax> I forgot to mention, it's ntfs
[05:24] <wsbl-uhpd651> Does anyone possibly know the commands to update and run Avira AntiVir in Terminal?
[05:24] <wsbl-uhpd651> I'm trying to find it online - and am having a heck of a time ...
[05:24] <mintux> I have Panasonic KX-MB1900 printer that doesn't have driver for linux. are there any way to use this printer on my linux?
[05:26] <DBordello> I am automatically loging-in as a user using gdm.  How do I prevent gnome-session from starting?  I want something light-weight, like xterm (I just need x running)
[05:27] <wildbat> hmax: nothing you can do ~ it is ntfs ~ ;p
[05:28] <hmax> wildbat, I can mount it manually with desired permissions, actually
[05:28] <jen> can someone teach me how to get java on natty?
[05:29] <wildbat> hmax: ya ~ but there is no solution to nautilus that i know of
[05:29] <hmax> :(
[05:30] <wildbat> hmax: you can make a entry in fstab thou ~
[05:31] <hmax> wildbat,  I got errors with this, about root user being the only user able to mount this partition
[05:31] <Will123456> hey guys. when i ssh into my server, i can't use up or down  to go back through my command history. it just outputs a  bunch of different characters. why is this? how can i fix  it?
[05:31] <hmax> I changed fuse config, set user_allow_other but still
[05:32] <xGrind> the ubuntu use debian 6 ?
[05:32] <_gambler> can anyone help me create a liveusb to install fedora.
[05:32] <dr_willis> _gambler:  use tools from  pendrivelinux site
[05:32] <YankDownUnder> _gambler, On the Fedora site there is a link to a special text based application that will build your USB bootable stick. Dig into it mate.
[05:33] <dr_willis> some distros you ca just dd the iso to a flashdrive.
[05:33] <_gambler> i wanted to do it using terminal
[05:33] <_gambler> i tried but it wasnt working
[05:33] <rww> _gambler: sudo dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/deviceinodehere
[05:33] <YankDownUnder> _gambler, Did you read what I just wrote?
[05:33] <dr_willis> if fedora can work via dd. ;)
[05:34] <rww> dr_willis: it can :P
[05:34] <YankDownUnder> _gambler, Look for a program called : abock-image-usb-stick-f3b1002
[05:35] <_gambler> rww: how do i know where the usb is located? i think mine is showing up in the /media folder
[05:35] <YankDownUnder> _gambler, In the terminal you can type: mount => that will show you where it's mounted. Easy as.
[05:36] <dr_willis> pi
[05:36] <dr_willis> ;
[05:36] <wildbat> hmax: did you put users/user as mount option?
[05:36] <YankDownUnder> _gambler, ...and you're going to write to THE DEVICE (i.e., /dev/sdc or whatever)
[05:36] <dr_willis> bbl
[05:36] <hmax> wildbat, yes
[05:37] <andai> there's some some software that says it automatically creates files in the My Documents folder ( running in wine ). What folder is this in Ubuntu?
[05:37] <jen> can anyone show me how to install java?
[05:37] <andai> i.e. what folder is "My Documents" linked to via wine?
[05:37] <YankDownUnder> andai, "Documents" in your home folder.
[05:37] <_gambler> should it show up on the stick after that
[05:37] <_gambler> because its not
[05:37] <accel_> is there a way to run a program, pretending I am root?
[05:37] <somsip> !sudo ! accel
[05:38] <somsip> !sudo | accel
[05:38] <accel_> pretending
[05:38] <accel_> i.e. not actually using sudo
[05:38] <YankDownUnder> _gambler, Now ya lost me mate. Do you KNOW where your USB is mounted in the first place?
[05:38] <_gambler> no
[05:38] <accel_> i.e. I don't wnat to run the progrm as root
[05:38] <accel_> I want to just give it some fake environment
[05:38] <accel_> perhaps chrooted
[05:38] <accel_> where it thinks its root
[05:38] <_gambler> its showing up in the /media folder
[05:38] <YankDownUnder> _gambler, I'll advise you to use the Disk Utility to learn where it's mounted else you could cause a bit of damage to things if you don't.
[05:39] <YankDownUnder> _gambler, If you type "mount" in a terminal, it will tell you WHAT DEVICE is mounted in the /media folder...that device is going to be your USB (and whatever else you're mounted)
[05:40] <andai> YankDownUnder: I looked in Documents already. I ended up finding it in my home folder. ( for reference :P )
[05:40] <_gambler> so in device utility i need to look at device point
[05:41] <YankDownUnder> _gambler, IT will be something like: /dev/sdc or /dev/sdd or /dev/sdb or whatever....
[05:41] <irrumator_> hey rww, the maverick package for bluetile doesn't work. i get this error:
[05:41] <irrumator_> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.21.6)
[05:41] <_gambler> oh ok, not the actual file name
[05:41] <irrumator_> i searched synaptic for the package, but no dice
[05:42] <irrumator_> does this mean no bluetile for me, or what?
[05:42] <_gambler> 1 moment.
[05:43] <escii> bluetile did install with no issues
[05:43] <Marc-iano> irc.rizon.net
[05:44] <FerchoLP> weird, that package is at http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu natty
[05:45] <FerchoLP> no, sorry,
[05:46] <escii> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/universe bluetile i386 0.5.1-2u
[05:46] <FerchoLP> yes, it's at archive.ubuntu
[05:48] <_gambler> i switched the boot order to the usb and got the return: isolinux.bin missing or corrupt
[05:49] <DBordello> I am automatically loging-in as a user using gdm.  How do I prevent gnome-session from starting?  I want something light-weight, like xterm (I just need x running)
[05:50] <nit-wit> DBordello, have you tried openbox
[05:51] <wildbat> DBordello: log out and change the session in the bottom bar and login
[05:51] <catarrhin> Dboredellow are you just looking for a lightweight window manager?
[05:52] <catarrhin> xfce and wm come to mind (iirc their names correctly)
[05:52] <DBordello> catarrhin, no i am using the GPUs themselves.  X needs to be running for the driver to startup
[05:52] <DBordello> a terminal is sufficient
[05:52] <DBordello> wildbat, i tried that, always gnome
[05:52] <escii> xfce is not rly light... awesome is or fluxbox :>
[05:52] <BitWraith> how can I determine if a specific package is required by any of the other packages I have installed?
[05:54] <wildbat> DBordello: let me try
[05:55] <tham_> How can I find out whether I have a gigabit ethernet port in my computer?
[05:55] <escii> --dry-run  ?
[05:55] <DBordello> wildbat, cool
[05:56] <catarrhin> tham_ try lspci
[05:57] <catarrhin> you might see something like this:
[05:57] <catarrhin> 0d:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 03)
[05:57] <catarrhin> 0e:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[05:57] <FloodBot1> catarrhin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:57] <tham_> catarrhin, thanks I'll try
[05:58] <catarrhin> tham_ what is on the other side of your gig link?
[05:58] <catarrhin> another gig port or 100Mbps port?
[05:59] <FerchoLP> I have a laptop with Intel Wireless 4965AGN. Since I updated from Ubuntu 10 to 11.04, N-connections have turned very slow and unstable. The driver used is "iwlagn". I had to disable N in my router to get a decent connection again. I've read some have the same problem, is it that common?
[06:00] <FerchoLP> I'm not asking for a solution, I think I only have to wait for some newer kernel to solve it
[06:02] <escii> what about drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi ?
[06:03] <escii> supports 4965AGN  since 2.6.24 as it looks
[06:04] <FerchoLP> you're right, I'll give it a try
[06:04] <escii> good luck m8 :)
[06:04] <wildbat> DBordello: ha ~ it didn't work XD~
[06:07] <DBordello> wildbat, hah.
[06:12] <FerchoLP> mm I'm not sure, but maybe iwlagn is part of iwlwifi and they are the same thing
[06:13] <wildbat> DBordello: well may be you have to set it manually;p edit ~/.dmrc
[06:14] <_gambler> having trouble booting fedora via liveusb. any help? I'm getting a "isolinux.bin missing or corrupted"
[06:15] <dr_willis> err.. ask in #fedora ?
[06:15] <kural> linux-image-server does this kernel have dom0 xen support
[06:15] <_gambler> yea im woring in ubuntu right now though so i figured you all could help
[06:15] <dr_willis> its booting fedora. so not really
[06:16] <_gambler> well my copying to my usb is not working.
[06:16] <dr_willis> could be your iso is bad.
[06:17] <ankit_> hi
[06:18] <ankit_> i want to convert a flv file to mp4 file in terminal in ubuntu
[06:18] <ankit_> how can i do that
[06:18] <dr_willis> ffmpeg. mencoder. arista.  winff.
[06:19] <dr_willis> pick one try them all. :)
[06:19] <bindi> this probably isnt the right channel but I have to ask in case anyone knows.. how to stream raw video with vlc to another machine, and then transcode it there and stream it to the internet (using vlc again)
[06:19] <bindi> and  yes I've tried #videolan but it's really not the most active channel :<
[06:19] <dr_willis> you may need the ffmped grom medibuntu repos.
[06:20] <dhruvasagar> Hi, is there a way for me to know if my cdrom is faulty ? (hardware)
[06:22] <wildbat> dhruvasagar: put a good CD in ~ see if it read it ?
[06:22] <dhruvasagar> wildbat: but how do I know if it's a driver / software problem or hardware problem ?
[06:23] <dhruvasagar> wildbat: my cdrom was working sometime back but since recent upgrades it it not working, I put cd into it, after a while it just ejects, nothing happens
[06:24] <dhruvasagar> wildbat: I don't want to install windows just to know if it is the hardware that's faulty and nothing wrong with my ubuntu installation
[06:24] <Xiaclo> the easiest way would probably be to avoid any driver issues.  get a bootable CD, and see if it can boot off it
[06:25] <dhruvasagar> Xiaclo: ok sounds good
[06:27] <FerchoLP> actually I think all Ubuntu desktop installations cds are also live cds
[06:28] <Madpilot> FerchoLP, the Desktop ones are, yes.
[06:28] <dr_willis> well live normally mean you have some sort of desktop.
[06:29] <dr_willis> the alt installer cd. is semi live. :)
[06:31] <bindi> Xiaclo: why dcc chat me?
[06:31] <wildbat> i think. cd-rom don't really need special drivers ~ it use the same driver as normal HDD like ATA ,SATA depends on interface it is on, no ?
[06:31] <Xiaclo> bindi: just didn't want to spam chat with VLC commands and such
[06:31] <bindi> Xiaclo: www.pastebin.com
[06:32] <bindi> Xiaclo: also, I made progress.. kind of :p http://bindi.arkku.net/upload/LtkXlKha6V.png
[06:32] <bindi> it keeps changing colours and jumping like a beast
[06:32] <bindi> so the raw stream plays almost correctly. :D
[06:36] <dexter_e> is it possible to do     export ENV_VAR=whatever  ?
[06:36] <dexter_e> or do I need to edit .bashrc
[06:36] <Xiaclo> you can, but it will only affect things launched from that shell
[06:37] <dexter_e> I see
[06:37] <dexter_e> Thanks!
[06:37] <dexter_e> So if I want to add it to thigns launched with Upstart
[06:37] <dexter_e> I gotta add to .bashrc for that user?
[06:37] <dexter_e> like daemons
[06:38] <dexter_e> webserver ENV_VARS etc
[06:38] <toumbo> Hi!Recenly I purged all of my nvidia system packages which I manually installed...My problem is that I can't install nvidia current from jockey gtk because my pc stops in plymouth!What should I do?
[06:38] <eHAPPY> Any idea why ubuntu download servers are so slow? Im getting 30KB/s
[06:38] <wildbat> dexter_e: .bashrc isn't for upstart, it is bash init script.
[06:38] <wildbat> !upstart > dexter_e
[06:39] <farsight> g;lhg;lh
[06:39] <wildbat> eHAPPY: ubuntu is too popular ;p server is need upgrade.
[06:40] <eHAPPY> wildbat well if thats the case then thats fine with me :)
[06:43] <sabbir2world> hello
[06:43] <sabbir2world> HellooooooooW !! everyone
[06:43] <dexter_e> ubottu: Thanks
[06:44] <lingolatz> Can someone assist me in uninstalling Ubuntu 11.04 that was installed using wubi.exe?
[06:44] <sabbir2world> I'm totally new here!!
[06:45] <sabbir2world> Why do you want to unstall ubuntu 11.04, lingolatz?
[06:45] <Flannel> lingolatz: You should be able to just go into add/remove programs and remove it.
[06:45] <lingolatz> I don't like it the way it is set up currently, I plan on reinstalling it through a zip drive.
[06:45] <sabbir2world> Oh!
[06:45] <lingolatz> Well, I never thought it'd be THAT easy. Thank you so much!
[06:46] <sabbir2world> I'm just installing Ubuntu 11.04 alongside my windows 7 ultimate
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[06:47] <sabbir2world> On Octobor Ubutnu 11.10 will release
[06:47] <sabbir2world> I want to know ...Can update my Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 then?
[06:48] <lingolatz> You should be able to update through the update manager shouldn't you?
[06:48] <sabbir2world> I also think so
[06:48] <faLUCE> hi. I can't execute a script inside an usb flash drive. I tried to chmod +x myscript, even as root, but it still says: Permission denied
[06:48] <sabbir2world> But installing alongside win7
[06:49] <DBordello> what package contains java?
[06:49] <sabbir2world> worring whether I'd face any trouble
[06:49] <llutz_> faLUCE: vfat/ntfs? mounted "noexec"?
[06:49] <lingolatz> I didn't that's what I did before. Then I tried the wubi.exe, and didn't like it.
[06:49] <sabbir2world> yes wubi.exe has some problems
[06:50] <rww> understatement
[06:50] <sabbir2world> Will update manager update 11.04 to 11.10 automatically?
[06:50] <lingo2> I uninstalled wubi, but there is still an "Ubuntu" option when I boot. How can I delete this?
[06:51] <rww> sabbir2world: no, it'll ask if you want to do so first
[06:51] <sabbir2world> or I'll have to write any command?
[06:52] <nit-wit> sabbir2world, there wil be a notification ion the update manager for you to click.
[06:52] <sabbir2world> Oh! thanks rww for replying
[06:52] <sabbir2world> thanks nit-wit
[06:52] <nit-wit> sabbir2world, no problem I missed rww help. ;)
[06:53] <sabbir2world> Doesn't matter!! nit-wit...so did you!!
[06:53] <sabbir2world> I appreciate your help too
[06:54] <sabbir2world> One more thing, I need help from u guys that....
[06:55] <sabbir2world> Few months back I tried to install google chrome...But I couldn't make that perfectly@
[06:55] <sabbir2world> And vlc player samr
[06:55] <sabbir2world> same
[06:56] <Yaffa> what is the command that is issued before an executable is run to see what files it uses when it runs?
[06:56] <sam_> hello
[06:56] <sabbir2world> That was showing some packages conflicting
[06:56] <sam_> i am new user
[06:56] <sam_> i dont know how this thing works
[06:56] <llutz_> Yaffa: libraries you mean? ldd <file>
[06:56] <sabbir2world> Whay did that happen?
[06:56] <sam_> but its cool
[06:57] <sabbir2world> Can u help me nit-wit?
[06:57] <Yaffa> llutz_, thanks
[06:57] <llutz_> Yaffa: or "strace -e open -f <appfile>" to see every file it calls
[06:57] <lingolatz> I don't remember who answered my question about uninstalling Ubuntu through wubi.exe, but there is still one more "Ubuntu" option under the "Windows" option.
[06:58] <nit-wit> sabbir2world, probably not, in this case any errors shown would help, both chrome and vlc should have no pronlems, it is hard to say.
[06:58] <nit-wit> *problems
[06:58] <faLUCE> I rebooted and I still can't execute scripts inside an usb flash drive. Now, I suspect there are errors on this drive. How can i check?
[06:59] <kjeldor> is there itunes for ubuntu?
[06:59] <dexter_e> Anyone using Upstart for daemons ?
[06:59] <llutz_> faLUCE: vfat/ntfs? mounted "noexec"?
[06:59] <sabbir2world> While I tried to install vlc player from ubuntu software center...that was showing my liberary(something like that) was conflicting!
[06:59] <faLUCE> llutz_:   no
[07:00] <wildbat> faLUCE: ifyou drive is FAT/ NTFS, ~ then you can't change permssion/ownership with chown/chmod.
[07:00] <sam_> how do i swith rooms
[07:00] <dr_willis> faLUCE:  what fs is it then?
[07:00] <sam_> anyone
[07:00] <sabbir2world> At the same time I downloaded chrome from googe and tried to install that I failed
[07:00] <sabbir2world> same issue
[07:00] <sam_> hellooooooooooo
[07:00] <sam_> all slept
[07:01] <kjeldor> sam_: /join #channelname
[07:01] <sam_> such a boring room
[07:01] <sam_> k
[07:01] <dr_willis> sabbir2world:  the google ppa/debs worked for  me. odd you had issues
[07:01] <sam_> thanks
[07:01] <faLUCE> all worked since yesterday!
[07:01] <dr_willis> os support is supposed to be exciteing?
[07:02] <sabbir2world> Is there any chance ? I mean my hardware problem in this regard, dr_willis?
[07:02] <sabbir2world> I downloaded ubuntu 11.04 again from Ubuntu server this time
[07:03] <lingolatz> If I installed Ubuntu through wubi.exe (twice), and uninstalled wubi.exe, but only one "Ubuntu" boot option disappeared, how may I get rid of the second?
[07:03] <sabbir2world> Before I downloaded from our local host of ubuntu officially!!
[07:03] <dr_willis> sabbir2world:  what was the problem?
[07:04] <rww> sabbir2world: ##windows is more likely to know how to edit Windows' bootloader than us. That said, msconfig and/or EasyBCD may be useful.
[07:04] <sabbir2world> Normally I couldn't play mp3 on ubuntu!
[07:04] <Yaffa> what is the command to be able to show one page at a time, like ls | <some command here> (forget it) to show one page at a time?
[07:04] <rww> Yaffa: less
[07:04] <Yaffa> rww, thanks
[07:04] <sabbir2world> Thanks rww!
[07:05] <sabbir2world> I tried to configure my audio settings to talk on skype
[07:05] <sabbir2world> I couldn't do that!
[07:06] <sabbir2world> audio settings got vanishged after I download mpeg codec from bunshe to play mp3
[07:07] <sabbir2world> MY motherboad: Gigabyte
[07:07] <sabbir2world> ha
[07:07] <sabbir2world> HD Samsung 320GB
[07:08] <sabbir2world> I hope this time everything gonna be all right
[07:08] <lingolatz> If I installed Ubuntu through wubi.exe (twice), and uninstalled wubi, but only one "Ubuntu" boot option disappeared, how may I get rid of the second?
[07:10] <dr_willis> dowloaded from   bushe? whats bunshe?
[07:10] <sabbir2world> lingolatz...um Did you try to install using live CD alongside with your current OS?
[07:11] <silare> What's the char limit for a deb package's name, version number, and the small description in Synaptic in the list?
[07:11] <sabbir2world> I mean Ubuntu music player, dr_willis
[07:11] <sabbir2world> My be I've mistaken the spelling
[07:11] <sabbir2world> Sorry for that
[07:13] <lingolatz> sabbir2world: I plan on installing using a zip drive, but I want to get rid of the false option, it goes no where. I have wubi uninstalled, so it shouldn't work
[07:13] <sabbir2world> oh!
[07:13] <sabbir2world> Do I need any anti-virus programe on my Ubuntu 11.04?
[07:14] <dr_willis> sabbir2world:  not really
[07:14] <dr_willis> no defragging either
[07:14] <sabbir2world> eset assholes got anti-virus programe for Linux OS
[07:15] <sabbir2world> THanks dr_willis for reply
[07:15] <dr_willis> the av apps for linux scan for windows viruses/malware
[07:15] <dr_willis> if you want to sca your windows box go use them.
[07:16] <dr_willis> but that was not what you asked ;)
[07:16] <sabbir2world> On my windows 7 I'm currently using Kaspersky internet security 2012!
[07:17] <sabbir2world> even then thanks....dr_willis
[07:17] <lingolatz> I think I'm just going to deal with the extra option and just install...
[07:17] <kjeldor> On my Ubuntu One Control Panel, I always get an auth failed (Auth_FAILED) even if my UBUNTU ONE password is correct.. what is causing this?
[07:17] <dr_willis> i dont even kow how you properly bechmark/compare av apps for win. i just use clamav.
[07:18] <sabbir2world> clamav for Ubuntu?
[07:18] <dr_willis> kjeldor:  login to ubutu one via the browser pwehaps?
[07:18] <dr_willis> !info clamav
[07:18] <kjeldor> dr_willis: how can I do that?
[07:18] <kjeldor> dr_willis: please give a link?
[07:18] <dr_willis> kjeldor:  open browser.. go to ubuntu one site.. login
[07:19] <sabbir2world> Will it make trouble if I use clam av on my Ubuntu OS?
[07:19] <sabbir2world> Because I'm installing alongside of my windows
[07:19] <dr_willis> sabbir2world:  it scas for windows viruses for the most part.
[07:19] <sabbir2world> and that has already av app!
[07:19] <dr_willis> av apps in linux dot cause the same issues they do i widows
[07:20] <Rouse> c++ channels ?
[07:20] <dr_willis> they only scan when you tell them to. ;)
[07:20] <sabbir2world> Should I unstall kaspersky from windows if I want to use av app on ubuntu?
[07:21] <dr_willis> sabbir2world:  dosnt hurt to scan with more then 1 av app
[07:21] <dr_willis> just takes time
[07:22] <sabbir2world> oh! thanks dr_willis
[07:23] <sabbir2world> I've backed up windows files...before I was thinking to install Ubuntu (Dual boot)
[07:26] <Rouse> c++ channels ? ? ?
[07:27] <llutz_> !alis | Rouse
[07:27] <dr_willis> try #c++
[07:29] <bedahr> hi! I am having trouble with sound on a Ubuntu 10.10 install _without_ pulseaudio (I need it to work without using pulseaudio)
[07:29] <bedahr> I know it's not officially supported any longer but upgrading is not an option
[07:30] <bedahr> the problem: alsa claims that there are no sound cards available. When running sudo alsactl init 0 the card shows up correctly, though
[07:30] <bedahr> it even works sometimes after running sudo alsactl init - but only sometimes
[07:30] <th0r> bedahr: sounds like the card might be failing
[07:31] <bedahr> no, I have two sound cards
[07:31] <bedahr> one internal and one usb card
[07:31] <bedahr> it happens with both of them
[07:33] <bedahr> okay, I just tried it _with_ pulseaudio installed and still the same problem
[07:33] <bedahr> aplay -l doesn't even list the "pulse" device
[07:34] <apporc> Hi , by now is there some way to improve the performance of flash in linux ?
[07:34] <llutz_> apporc: ask adobe  :(
[07:34] <bedahr> apporc: there is hardware acceleration for certain hardware (like an nvidia graphics card)
[07:35] <bedahr> you can also embed a different viewer for videos (the mplayer plugin should be able to handle flv too, but I never tried it)
[07:35] <apporc> bedahr: my card is ati
[07:36] <bedahr> apporc: I guess the problem is with youtube, right?
[07:36] <apporc> bedahr: yeah.
[07:37] <bedahr> for videos you might get lucky by simply not using flash
[07:37] <bedahr> try this: http://www.youtube.com/html5
[07:37] <apporc> bedahr: ok, thanks . but what  for high-difinition video.
[07:38] <apporc> bedahr: for example , use totem to play high definition video
[07:39] <dr_willis> or download/connvert
[07:39] <gogeta> apporc: totem heh
[07:39] <bedahr> the html5 version should still have hd content
[07:39] <gogeta> apporc: i sware ubuntu should  just include vlc
[07:40] <dr_willis> legal issues i belive gogeta
[07:40] <apporc> bedahr: when i use totem to play a 1080p "Lord of the Rings " , it can't do it fluency
[07:40] <kjeldor> how can I install themes? it doesnt work when I click install inside the themes tab on the Appearance Preferences
[07:40] <bedahr> oh well then your pc is probably simply too slow...
[07:40] <gogeta> dr_willis: as far as i knoe vlc did it all internaly to the player not any outside codecs
[07:40] <kjeldor> I click Install and the downloaded theme file wont install
[07:40] <bedahr> if it's just a little bit, you can try the skip loop filters, etc. to degrade quality (and improve performance) but ultimately there is little you can do
[07:41] <dr_willis> kjeldor: drag/drop themt to the appearance widow. is one way
[07:41] <bedahr> but there were some efforts to get coreavc running on linux through wine so if you are desparate...
[07:41] <kjeldor> dr_willis: I tried that, there is an error
[07:41] <bedahr> it's comercial, though
[07:41] <apporc> bedahr: yeah ,my computer is a little slow .but when i play it on windows , it is all ok!
[07:42] <gogeta> behanw: cpreavc?
[07:42] <gogeta> core
[07:42] <wiserd> i need some help
[07:42] <apporc> bedahr: so  i hope .
[07:42] <bedahr> apporc: the windows driver supports hardware acceleration for it - the ati linux driver doesn't
[07:42] <apporc> bedahr: and the open source ati driver ?
[07:43] <kjeldor> dr_willis: ubuntu-black.tar.gz doesnt appear to be a valid theme
[07:43] <wiserd> dose anyone know why when i log into ubuntu i cant see anything on my desktop and i cant load my files?
[07:43] <gogeta> apporc: the oss ati driver is pretty nice these days
[07:43] <dr_willis> kjeldor: could be its not. extract it and look i it.
[07:43] <bedahr> could someone please paste the output of ls -lhd  ~ of their ubuntu install? I am wondering what the standard permission / ownership of the home folder is in Ubuntu 10.10...
[07:44] <apporc> gogeta: how can i choose to use oss ati driver ? recompile my kernel?
[07:44] <gogeta> behanw: thats root aka sudo in ubuntu
[07:44] <bedahr> I think that could be the source of my sound issues...
[07:44] <gogeta> apporc: no its defult
[07:44] <ragesh> can anyone help regarding fedora
[07:44] <bedahr> apporc: sorry, not afaik
[07:44] <wiserd> dose anyone know why when i log into ubuntu i cant see anything on my desktop and i cant load my files?
[07:45] <llutz_> bedahr: its either "755 you:you" (default) or "700 you:you"
[07:45] <ragesh> can anyone help regarding fedora15???
[07:45] <gogeta> apporc: but if its a newer card the oss one might only do 2d
[07:45] <gogeta> apporc: so you need amds closed driver for 3d
[07:45] <apporc> gogeta: oh ,i understand
[07:45] <kjeldor> dr_willis: looks like a theme to me, but it wont work, I downloaded it from the "get more themes online" clicked that.. and choose a category: login window, then downloaded one.. and tried to drag it to the themes tab on Appearances Preferences. It wont allow it
[07:45] <wiserd> dose anyone know why when i log into ubuntu i cant see anything on my desktop and i cant load my files?
[07:46] <dr_willis> kjeldor:  gdm themes are likely for the old gdm. ot gdm2
[07:46] <dr_willis> not gdm2
[07:46] <dr_willis> i woulent even mess with gdm themes at this time.
[07:47] <wiserd> dose anyone know why when i log into ubuntu i cant see anything on my desktop and i cant load my files?
[07:47] <bedahr> llutz_: yeah, I thought so
[07:47] <apporc> gogeta: but does the ati closed driver support hardware acceleration?
[07:47] <bedahr> but I tried both and I still get "Home directory /home/<user> is not ours"
[07:47] <gogeta> apporc: yes
[07:47] <bedahr> when running alsactl init 0
[07:47] <kjeldor> dr_willis: can you suggest a site where I can download themes that are compatible?
[07:47] <YankDownUnder> kjeldor, Have you tried http://gnome-look.org ?
[07:47] <gogeta> apporc: ubuntu will ask to install it if your card uses it old cards only use oss
[07:47] <dr_willis> kjeldor:  for the login screen... none. theres a few in the repos..
[07:48] <gogeta> apporc: older cards and the oss driver support 3d
[07:48] <apporc> gogeta: i remembered that someone said the ati closed driver is not good . what's that ?
[07:48] <kjeldor> YankDownUnder not yet, trying now...
[07:48] <wiserd> dose anyone know why when i log into ubuntu i cant see anything on my desktop and i cant load my files?
[07:48] <gogeta> apporc: a nivida fan
[07:48] <kjeldor> dr_willis where can I get it from the repo?
[07:48] <darrenfoster1976> any good guides for installing canon printers out there on the internet that you can recommend?
[07:48] <dr_willis> kjeldor: logi screen is not worth worring about. its to be totally redone in the next release
[07:48] <wiserd> dose anyone know why when i log into ubuntu i cant see anything on my desktop and i cant load my files?
[07:49] <dr_willis> kjeldor:  use pakage manager tools search for gdm themes
[07:49] <dr_willis> wiserd:  you could give more details and clairfy things a bit.
[07:49] <dr_willis> 'load   my files' means what exactly.....
[07:50] <dr_willis> and version# of the os..
[07:50] <gogeta> apporc: my very old 9200 desktop runs like a new card under linux using the oss driver
[07:50] <dc5ala> wiserd: is login screen working?
[07:50] <wiserd> dr-willis: i log into my profile, i have nothing on my desktop and when i try to acces my files the window crashes and closses
[07:50] <apporc> gogeta: my card may be a little old . how to check the card module number?
[07:50] <dr_willis> how are you accessing files with nothing on the desktop?
[07:51] <wiserd> dr-willis: through the places menu
[07:51] <apporc> gogeta: sorry ,model
[07:51] <gogeta> apporc: well if its not that old you can get the closed driver ubuntu should have aruldy asked to install it
[07:51] <dr_willis> then you do have somthing on the desktop... a top panel..
[07:51] <bedahr> seriously, what's going on - no matter what I do, I get the strange error that "Home directory /home/<user> is not ours." - but it definietely is!
[07:52] <wiserd> dr-willis: i meen my icons from my desktop are not there
[07:52] <dc5ala> wiserd: only icons but rest like menu bar is there and working?
[07:53] <apporc> gogeta: maybe it is too old . ubuntu doesn't say that
[07:53] <wiserd> dc5ala: i can get the dropdown menu's but when i try to open something the window goes grey and closses
[07:53] <apporc> gogeta: i use radeon driver by now.
[07:54] <TessSticklez> Hello
[07:55] <TessSticklez> I need help
[07:55] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:55] <Barnabas> TessSticklez, ask your question then :-)
[07:55] <dc5ala> wiserd: i would try to login in a console (e.g. ctrl+alt+1) and update the system: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:55] <gogeta> apporc: you can do lspci and look for the ati card
[07:55] <llutz_> bedahr: find ~/ -uid 1000 -print                          set uid=  to your UID if not 1000
[07:55] <gogeta> apporc: will give you the model
[07:56] <TessSticklez> My butt has worms and I'm stuck in my chair that I have fused with in the last 5 years
[07:56] <dc5ala> wiserd: sry f1 not 1
[07:56] <apporc> gogeta: my card is X1400
[07:56] <bedahr> llutz: I already ran a chown -R username:username /home/username
[07:56] <bedahr> llutz_: ^
[07:56] <TessSticklez> I can't reach a phone so I'm wondering if anyone in the Phoenix Arizona area can call the emergeny 911
[07:56] <llutz_> bedahr: find ~/ ! -uid 1000 -print               i meant, sry.   chown needs sudo in this case
[07:56] <apporc> gogeta: it is like that .01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[07:57] <bedahr> yes, I ran it with sudo
[07:57] <gogeta> apporc: uses oss driver with 3d suppoer
[07:57] <gogeta> support
[07:57] <bedahr> also, this error only happens when pulseaudio is installed
[07:57] <wiserd> dc5ala: i cant do anything im just getting error messages
[07:57] <bedahr> when I remove it, the error disappears but the problem stays
[07:57] <apporc> gogeta: how to install it . Is there some document
[07:57] <jarra> hi, is there any way for me to remove the gnome-dictionary package?  thank you.
[07:58] <gogeta> apporc: it aruldy is it also can used the closed driver still supported
[07:58] <bedahr> the cards are in /proc/asound/card* but aplay -l tells me that "no soundcards are found" (translation)
[07:58] <dc5ala> wiserd: can you paste more details about this error messages?
[07:59] <wiserd> im useing my windows computer as i cant get any windows open on linux
[07:59] <gogeta> apporc: so go to your hardware tab it should list the drive avable to download
[08:00] <apporc> gogeta: system-administration-hardware drivers?
[08:00] <gogeta> apporc: yea but looks like it was dropped after lucid
[08:00] <apporc> gogeta: it said no proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[08:00] <apporc> gogeta: my os is just lucid....
[08:01] <gogeta> apporc: strange but the oss driver work are you not getting 3d acell?
[08:01] <YankDownUnder> Lucid is just fine and dandy mate - it's supported until 2013. I love it heaps - along with Maverick. S'all good.
[08:01] <apporc> gogeta: yes , i don't get that .
[08:01] <gogeta> apporc: type glxinfo if direct says yes you are
[08:02] <dc5ala> wiserd: that's why i said should try on a console and ignore the desktop, consoles usually work
[08:02] <wiserd> dc5ala: is there anyway to get my documents of the computer?
[08:02] <apporc> gogeta: The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.
[08:02] <wiserd> dc5ala: should i log onto the recovery console then?
[08:02] <gogeta> apporc: hua
[08:02] <YankDownUnder> apporc, sudo apt-get install glxinfo
[08:03] <dc5ala> wiserd: can you press ctrl+alt+f1? does that work and brings you to a console?
[08:03] <gogeta> apporc: yea seems they dont include it anymore
[08:03] <apporc> gogeta: it is mesa-utils
[08:03] <gogeta> apporc: yea
[08:03] <Acidphase> yeo
[08:03] <wiserd> dc5ala: it brings me to a console but just brings up lots of erroe messages
[08:04] <dc5ala> wiserd: and can you login there?
[08:04] <wiserd> dc5ala: exeption emask 0x0 sact 0x3 serr 0x0
[08:05] <apporc> gogeta: the glxinfo output many things.
[08:05] <wiserd> dc5ala: irq-start 0x4000008
[08:05] <gogeta> apporc: yea tords the top you will see driect rendering = yes or no
[08:05] <apporc> gogeta: direct rendering: Yes
[08:05] <wiserd> dc5ala: failed command : read fpdma qued
[08:05] <llutz_> wiserd: sounds like sata-errors, check disk/cables
[08:05] <gogeta> apporc: then you have hardware acell :0
[08:06] <gogeta> :)
[08:06] <apporc> gogeta: then i am not using radeon driver?
[08:06] <gogeta> apporc: you are the oss one
[08:06] <wiserd> llutz_: how?
[08:07] <apporc> gogeta: if i lsmod , the driver would be ?
[08:07] <wiserd> ah, iv loged on in the console
[08:07] <gogeta> apporc: readion or readionhd
[08:07] <llutz_> wiserd: cable: open case, check connections. drive: try to find a service-tool of the drive-builder
[08:08] <apporc> gogeta: radeon?
[08:08] <gogeta> apporc: yea
[08:08] <wiserd> llutz_: is there anyway to get my files of the laptop? if so i will just re install unvuntu
[08:08] <wiserd> ubuntu*
[08:08] <apporc> gogeta: isn't it open source driver?
[08:08] <gogeta> apporc: it is it uses the same name
[08:08] <Acidphase> radeon is driver from Xorg
[08:09] <gogeta> apporc: for relly old cards its just called ati
[08:09] <nit-wit> wiserd, use a live cd to save it to off the computer.
[08:09] <llutz_> wiserd: if it's a hardware-error, no. you'd try to make an image of the disk using dd-rescue and to recover files from that image
[08:09] <Acidphase> there is a open-source driver as well
[08:09] <gogeta> Acidphase: the ones hes using is the oss one :)
[08:10] <gogeta> Acidphase: old card so he only gets that one
[08:10] <wiserd> llutz_: how do i use dd-rescue?
[08:10] <gogeta> apporc: so was there a issue or just whanted to knoe what driver you where running lol
[08:11] <apporc> gogeta: there is a issue that i can't play 1080p video from totem ,but i can do it with xp
[08:11] <Acidphase> well radeon believe or not has more features than radeonhd
[08:11] <dontaltf4mebro> Hello
[08:11] <Acidphase> they pretty much stopped most of the production on radeonhd
[08:12] <gogeta> apporc: try playing it with vlc
[08:12] <gogeta> apporc: i think totem does not do hardware acell
[08:12] <llutz_> wiserd: boot a live-cd containing it, connect a 2nd harddrive (usb) bigger than the failing one, mount it to /mnt, "ddrescue /dev/sda /mnt/hdd.img"
[08:12] <gogeta> apporc: mplayer certenly does
[08:13] <wiserd> llutz_: and if i dont have a usb to connect the computers, im stuffed right
[08:13] <apporc> gogeta: is that fglrx driver the same with that called " closed driver of amd driver"?
[08:14] <dc5ala> wiserd: you can still try a live-cd and see if you can access your files from there
[08:15] <llutz_> wiserd: i asume, you don't backup your data?
[08:15] <duping> hello
[08:15] <wiserd> llutz_: no
[08:15] <gogeta> apporc: yea but i think its a player thing not a driver one
[08:16] <nit-wit> duping, what's up.
[08:16] <gogeta> apporc: vlc does hardware acell
[08:16] <apporc> gogeta: the fglrc driver has the same name with open source drive from "lsmod" . oh god.
[08:16] <bedahr> oh wow. for the record: the user was not in the audio group
[08:16] <duping> i want to know how to use ubuntu
[08:17] <apporc> gogeta: vlc media player ?
[08:17] <DumbIedore> Hi, I have a problem with a lucid server. Sometimes /var/log is not writable any more (even by root). /var remains writable. No info in /var/log/messages or with dmesg. Any suggestions, how I can debug the problem?
[08:17] <gogeta> apporc: yes
[08:17] <nit-wit> duping, kind of a broad request, do you have any partitcular question?
[08:17] <gogeta> apporc: i always rip out any other player in favor of that simply couse it does everything faster
[08:18] <duping> yes
[08:18] <dontaltf4mebro> I come from a windows background, I have invested a lot of time in learning asp.net 4 and other related technologies so I decided to try out mono. I installed monodevelop and figured ubuntu is running an older version which doesn't support mvc 3
[08:18] <duping>  I come from a windows background.
[08:18] <apporc> gogeta: how to rip them out?
[08:19] <gogeta> apporc: lol give vlc a try first heh
[08:19] <apporc> gogeta: heh ,ok .
[08:19] <dontaltf4mebro> ubuntu's repository doesn't have the latest packages for mono 2.10
[08:19] <duping> how to make nvidia
[08:20] <wiserd> llutz_: i get a DConf error message, it says its a dbus error
[08:21] <llutz_> wiserd: as dc5ala mentioned, boot a live-cd and check if the errors will stay
[08:21] <wiserd> ok
[08:21] <llutz_> wiserd: if not, its a good idea to make a backup of your data
[08:22] <dontaltf4mebro> if I separately install mono 2.10 from source, will it mess up the existing 2.6 version?
[08:22] <apporc> gogeta: i have installed VLc .now i am at work, i will try VLC later at home.
[08:22] <gogeta> apporc: lol
[08:23] <apporc> gogeta: i still have a problem about flash player .
[08:23] <gogeta> apporc: flash is a problem
[08:23] <apporc> gogeta: is that because of flash of the driver .
[08:23] <apporc> gogeta: there is nothing we can do about it ?
[08:23] <gogeta> apporc: flash tends to be a reasouce eating monster
[08:24] <apporc> gogeta: yeah . just play a flash video from chrome ,the computer have top load.
[08:24] <gogeta> apporc: yyou can have a new machine and flash is like tieing a ancure on it
[08:25] <gogeta> apporc: chrome uses its own style of playback i found it slower then firefoxes
[08:25] <gogeta> apporc: when it comes to flash
[08:25] <apporc> gogeta: how to say "can't play fluency" with english . I mean , it playes and just stop and then playes again.
[08:26] <gogeta> apporc: slow internet maybe
[08:26] <apporc> gogeta: no ,no .
[08:26] <wiserd> dc5ala: i have my ubuntu live cd loaded now
[08:26] <apporc> gogeta: we call that "ka" in chinese. i don't know how to describe it with english.
[08:27] <kjeldor> I just download utorrent for linux, its a tar.gz file. my question is, how do I install this?
[08:27] <apporc> gogeta: yes sometimes it is because of the slow internet.
[08:28] <apporc> gogeta: it just play , stop ,play ,stop .... because of the big load.
[08:28] <dc5ala> wiserd: then open a nautilus window (file browser) and try to find your harddrive there
[08:28] <wiserd> dc5ala: how?
[08:28] <wiserd> dc5ala: sorry, im new to this
[08:29] <sunit> how can we determine size of different layers of a photoshop (psd) file in ubuntu ?
[08:31] <dc5ala> wiserd: no menu on top?
[08:31] <wiserd> dc5ala: its the ubuntu install cd
[08:33] <gogeta> apporc: i see have you turned off desktop effects
[08:33] <gogeta> apporc: flash can be weard sometimes it works better with them off sometimes on
[08:34] <apporc> gogeta: i use normal effects.
[08:34] <apporc> gogeta: not extra.
[08:34] <dc5ala> wiserd: haven't used the cd for a while but try alt+f2, then enter nautilus there
[08:34] <gogeta> apporc: i also notced youtube new player drage my playback down same thing you said but other sites work fine
[08:34] <gogeta> apporc: turn it to no effect try
[08:34] <apporc> gogeta: ok.
[08:35] <wiserd> dc5ala: i got my files!
[08:35] <eHAPPY> This might seem like a dumb question but where is the best place to put program folders? I want to be able to just type in term "firefox" and it runs
[08:35] <gogeta> apporc: what your doing is playing the video using gl acell
[08:35] <wiserd> dc5ala: i went to try ubuntu and i could get on my HDE from there
[08:35] <wiserd> HDD*
[08:35] <gogeta> apporc: and flash is trying to as well it might be overloading the little card
[08:36] <apporc> gogeta: so there are nothing we can do . just wait the adobe's developer.
[08:36] <llutz_> eHAPPY: ~/bin for personal stuff, /usr/local/bin for dist-wide things
[08:36] <gogeta> apporc: well if it works with effects off salved :)
[08:36] <llutz_> eHAPPY: but you don't put folders there, just the executables
[08:36] <gogeta> apporc: i always turn them off with my ati 9200 or youtube lags
[08:37] <diverdude> hello, i have installed natty on my lenovo T410 laptop. I dont have a taskbar in the bottom. How do i get that?
[08:37] <eHAPPY> llutz_ what if the whole folder is required for it to run?
[08:37] <gogeta> apporc: gotta rember windows xp does not have 3d overlays linux does by defult but can be turned off
[08:37] <dc5ala> wiserd: ah okay, you can find your files in /home/<username>
[08:38] <llutz_> eHAPPY: make short start-script calling the bin, put that script into one of those bin-folders
[08:38] <gogeta> apporc: probly fix your 1080p lag to
[08:38] <gogeta> apporc: give the system more of the card to use
[08:38] <kjeldor> Can anybody guide me to install tar.gz file?
[08:38] <DJones> !classic | diverdude Natty uses the Unity interface by default which doesn't have the same taskbars, they're included in the bar on the left, but if you want the old style interface, this should help
[08:38] <eHAPPY> llutz_ ok thanks :)
[08:38] <llutz_> eHAPPY: btw "folders" are directories :)
[08:38] <eHAPPY> right right
[08:38] <apporc> gogeta: it is called "lag" , that play-stop-play action
[08:38] <wiserd> dc5ala: yup i got it, im just going to take the files i need, thanks for all the help
[08:39] <apporc> ?
[08:39] <ZaHH> question: How can I turn on proxy from commandline
[08:39] <ZaHH> instead of gnome-network-properties
[08:39] <gogeta> apporc: yea hardware isnt keeping up to mutch load
[08:39] <ZaHH> socks proxy
[08:39] <gogeta> apporc: ubuntu effects add to it on old cards
[08:39] <dc5ala> wiserd: good luck but it really looks like a hardware problem, i doubt reinstalling the system will fix that
[08:39] <diverdude> DJones, i like the unity interface, so i dont want classic interface. But i want unity interface with a taskbar
[08:39] <gogeta> apporc: something i never agreed with i care less abought effects just make it work
[08:40] <sweat> eHAPPY: not that i entirely understand what you are after but look into editing your bash profile to add the path to what you want to run
[08:40] <kjeldor> Can anybody guide me to install tar.gz file?
[08:40] <apporc> gogeta: do you have a google+ ,i want to add you to my circle.
[08:40] <gogeta> apporc: see when effects are on when it plays a video its overlaying it over gl compiz has nevefr been good at this
[08:40] <ZaHH> kjeldor: tar -xvf [file]
[08:40] <staar2> kjeldor: unpack and the ./configure ./make
[08:40] <gogeta> apporc: no i do not
[08:40] <DJones> diverdude: I'm not sure in that case, hopefully somebody else will be able to answer that though
[08:41] <staar2> or best is read the README
[08:41] <gogeta> apporc: i have facebook
[08:41] <gogeta> apporc: google+ like to ban you if you use fake info
[08:41] <chipmonk> has anyone ever tried gadmin-samba to manage samba servers etc?
[08:41] <apporc> gogeta: what's your facebook. oh ,in china we all respect google , so ...
[08:42] <Barnabas> chipmonk, yes, I prefer the web GUI personally
[08:42] <Barnabas> or vi :-)
[08:42] <chipmonk> you can get it to work?
[08:42] <gogeta> apporc: imed it to you
[08:42] <jeremy> hello !
[08:42] <kjeldor> ZaHH and staar2, I have already done this: sudo tar xvzf utorrent-server-3.0-25053.tar.gz
[08:42] <kjeldor>  Then I did cd utorrent-server-v3_0
[08:42] <Guest91107> hello !
[08:42] <kjeldor> what is next?
[08:43] <Barnabas> chipmonk, the webgui or gadin-samba?
[08:43] <chipmonk> gadmin-samba
[08:43] <Guest91107> can somebody help me ?
[08:43] <ZaHH> kjeldor: find the README
[08:43] <Barnabas> chipmonk, It did when I tried it last
[08:43] <ThinkT510> !find utorrent
[08:43] <Barnabas> 1+ years ago
[08:43] <gogeta> apporc: turning off effects should give you a preformance boost in video playback both flash and totem
[08:43] <chipmonk> ahh ok
[08:43] <kjeldor> ZaHH: kjeldor@kjeldor-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:~/utorrent-server-v3_0$ ls
[08:43] <kjeldor> docs  utserver  webui.zip
[08:43] <Guest91107> youuuuuuuuuhouuuuuuu
[08:44] <kjeldor> that's whats inside, what to do next?
[08:44] <Guest91107> am i buging ?
[08:44] <ZaHH> docs dude
[08:44] <chipmonk> giving me fits
[08:44] <ZaHH> check docs
[08:44] <Guest91107> it's not funny =(
[08:44] <chipmonk> i installed it it adds server samba24
[08:44] <Guest91107> coocu
[08:44] <Guest91107> o"fzda
[08:44] <Guest91107> frze
[08:44] <Guest91107> rze
[08:44] <Guest91107> rz
[08:44] <FloodBot1> Guest91107: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:44] <Barnabas> chipmonk, but I do not really see the praticality in it
[08:44] <Myrtti> !ask | Guest91107
[08:44] <kjeldor> ZaHH: what is the command?
[08:44] <Barnabas> the web gui is excellent
[08:44] <chipmonk> i uninstall it and cannot delete that servername
[08:44] <ZaHH> go to the docs folder
[08:44] <ZaHH> cd docs
[08:45] <Guest91107> helklo
[08:45] <ZaHH> find the instructions
[08:45] <Guest91107> e
[08:45] <Guest91107> ed
[08:45] <Guest91107> do you hear me ?!
[08:45] <Myrtti> Guest91107: what is your question? we can't help you if you don't tell us what your problem is
[08:45] <kjeldor> no instructions
[08:45] <kjeldor> Changes.txt            Server_Changes.pdf  uTorrent_Server.html
[08:45] <kjeldor> footer_ut_address.gif  Server_Changes.txt  uTorrent_Server.pdf
[08:45] <kjeldor> license.txt            style.css           uTorrent_Server.txt
[08:45] <kjeldor> Server_Changes.html    ut-logo.gif
[08:45] <FloodBot1> kjeldor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <ThinkT510> Guest91107: stop it or ask your question
[08:45] <Guest91107> sorry i thought nobody hear me
[08:45] <Guest91107> so,
[08:46] <Guest91107> how can i change my wifi-card channel ?
[08:46] <diverdude> i cannot see this video since some plugin is missing: http://blip.tv/jorge-castro/how-i-multitask-in-unity-5015448    But it says that no suitable plugin could be found. How can i get the missing plugin?
[08:46] <ZaHH> Im not sure kjeldor, either find a README, some sort of installation executable script in some folder, or check the website you downloaded it from
[08:46] <ZaHH> for instructions
[08:47] <Baph> Guest91107: wifi channels are set on the Access Point, not on the card. The card simply uses the same channel that the AP is broadcasting on
[08:47] <Barnabas> Guest91107, change the channel in your router and reconnect
[08:47] <Guest91107> i explain me
[08:47] <chipmonk> does gadmin-samba store config info where?
[08:47] <Guest91107> i'm trying to hack MY wifi and aircrack-ng (in ubuntu)
[08:47] <Guest91107> says
[08:47] <Barnabas> smb.conf i belive
[08:47] <Guest91107> aireplay
[08:47] <dc5ala> diverdude: install flash player?
[08:47] <Guest91107> nel that the AP is broadcasting on
 Guest91107, change the channel in your router and reconnect
[08:48] <diverdude> dc5ala, using packet manager?
[08:48] <dc5ala> diverdude: yes
[08:48] <Guest91107> but it's MY wifi, how can i be in another whannel than my wifi
[08:48] <Guest91107> it's illogical
[08:48] <diverdude> dc5ala, what is package name?
[08:48] <dc5ala> diverdude: flashplugin-installer i think
[08:49] <Baph> Guest91107: it sounds like you need to read up on airodump-ng options, tried the manpage?
[08:49] <llutz_> Guest91107: man iwconfig
[08:50] <Guest91107> ok
[08:50] <diverdude> dc5ala, do i need to restart firefox before it works?
[08:50] <dc5ala> diverdude: don't forget to restart your browser after that
[08:50] <Guest91107>  parti (Client Quit)
 nel that the AP is broadcasting on
 <Barnabas> Guest91107, change the channel in your router and reconnect
[08:50] <Guest91107> mon0      IEEE 802.11abgn  Mode:Monitor  Tx-Power=19 dBm
[08:50] <Guest91107>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[08:50] <Guest91107>           Power Management:off
[08:50] <FloodBot1> Guest91107: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:51] <Guest91107> http://paste.ubuntu.com/651650/
[08:51] <Guest91107> sorry
[08:51] <Guest91107> my iwconfig
[08:51] <Guest91107> but call me jeremy, it's my xchat who is bugging
[08:52] <Baph> Guest91107: personally, I'm not going to walk you through hacking your own Wifi connection - from experience, that's something people do because they want to learn Wifi hacking before attacking another network
[08:52] <chipmonk> what terminal command will search for a file from root all the way down the tree?
[08:52] <llutz_> Guest91107: /nick newnick
[08:52] <Guest91107> guest91107 don't please me ='(
[08:52] <diverdude> how do i restart firefox without losing my open tabs?
[08:52] <Baph> Guest91107: at the end of the day, you don't need to change channels to achieve your goal
[08:52] <Guest91107> iv'e tried to do it it dont work
[08:53] <Barnabas> Baph, Unless it is because the neighbor use the same channel
[08:53] <llutz_> chipmonk: find / -iname foo
[08:53] <Guest91107> i wan't hack it, why i've lost mywep key
[08:53] <Guest91107> i'm on a freewifi
[08:53] <Baph> Barnabas: then the question wouldn't be about hacking, it'd be about increasing stability, and in either case, the channel is changed on the AP, not the card
[08:54] <Barnabas> Baph, exactly
[08:54] <jeremy__> okay
[08:54] <jeremy__> but what can i do?
[08:54] <dc5ala> diverdude: there's an options somewhere in the settings to restore your last windows on start
[08:55] <Baph> jeremy__: if you read the airodump-ng manpage, it's all explained there
[08:55] <jeremy__> i'm on ubuntu =)
[08:55] <jeremy__> i've a good tutoorial
[08:55] <llutz_> then read it
[08:55] <ThinkT510> jeremy__: can't you use wpa instead of wep?
[08:55] <jeremy__> i've read it
[08:55] <Free-man> mornin
[08:55] <godfather> i need help
[08:55] <Free-man> we all do
[08:55] <jeremy__> i've not my key, i've lost ot
[08:56] <Free-man> godfather post problem
[08:56] <ThinkT510> jeremy__: if it is your router that doesn't matter
[08:56] <llutz_> jeremy__: /j #aircrack-ng
[08:56] <jeremy__> thanks lluts_
[08:56] <ThinkT510> jeremy__: just set a new one
[08:57] <dr_willis> and write it on the router...
[08:57] <Free-man> (i reject agreement by inference or implication)
[08:57] <Baph> jeremy__: if you're doing this in order to obtain your WEP/WPA key, walk over to your router & hard reset it... then go find the manual for the default settings
[08:57] <jeremy__> okay i'll do it !
[08:57] <jeremy__> bye thank you so much :
[08:57] <Barnabas> jeremy_ or use a regular cable for accessing the thing ..
[08:57] <dr_willis> it prob. is the default. ;)
[08:58] <llutz_> use the wep-key as essid, makes it easier to remember. security is the same
[08:59] <Baph> llutz: that's the first thing I try whenever doing an intrusion test...
[08:59] <Barnabas> a hard reset could wipe out PPPoE/A logins as well on the wan side of the router
[09:00] <llutz_> Baph: successfull in too much cases :(
[09:00] <DasNiche> hey guys
[09:00] <Free-man> hi
[09:01] <Baph> Barnabas: this is true, I'm in the UK, and my PPP login is basically the fact that the connection comes from my line, I forget the rest of the world actually applies security to those sessions :)
[09:05] <beratalp> g
[09:05] <Free-man> h
[09:06] <phper_> Hello. I have ubuntu 8.04, what is the command to input to upgrade it?
[09:06] <tomgeorge> u can't
[09:06] <phper_> tomgeorge: why?
[09:06] <dr_willis> !eol
[09:07] <YankDownUnder> phper_, You'd have to do 8.04 to 9.04 to 10.04
[09:07] <tomgeorge> well you can't now
[09:07] <phper_> YankDownUnder: yes I want to upgrade to 9.04, what is the command I need to input? Sorry, I can't surf the internet much
[09:07] <tomgeorge> phper_, better to format and reinstall
[09:07] <tomgeorge> Install the 10.04
[09:08] <YankDownUnder> phper_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[09:09] <herkupus> an ubuntu release can only be upgraded as long as it is supported. 8.04 support ended in april this year. so backup your data and install 10.04.
[09:09] <YankDownUnder> 8.04 can be upgraded to 10.04. Doesn't anyone read the documentation anymore?
[09:09] <phper_> I can't, I have portable ubuntu that comes with ubuntu 8.04
[09:10] <tomgeorge> YankDownUnder, it can?
[09:10] <tomgeorge> how come?
[09:10] <YankDownUnder> tomgeorge, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[09:10] <phper_> I want to keep portable ubuntu, that's why I want to upgrade, not to reinstall
[09:10] <phper_> but I can't surf the internet
[09:10] <dr_willis> portable?
[09:10] <phper_> yes, I runs from usbs even
[09:10] <phper_> *it
[09:10] <ThinkT510> !usb | phper_
[09:11] <Barnabas> phper_, if you can't surf the internet, how are you in this forum? Dark Magic :-)
[09:11] <tomgeorge> phper_, u r running it from a USB?
[09:11] <dr_willis> a    full istall to a flash drive you mean?
[09:11] <phper_> We are not supposed to surf the internet much at work, unless it is for work
[09:12] <Barnabas> phper_, ok
[09:12] <woutervddn> hey guys, I'm on a laptop with an ATI card, but Xorg isn't loading, after the bootscreen it just flickers a couple of times and then stays blank..
[09:12] <drweedbot> hey?
[09:12] <drweedbot> i need help
[09:13] <ThinkT510> drweedbot: to get help you need to tell us the problem
[09:13] <drweedbot> can any one help me install the injection drivers for my wifi card
[09:13] <ThinkT510> drweedbot: injection?
[09:14] <drweedbot> aircrack-ng
[09:14] <Barnabas> woutervddn, during boot can you access the grub menu and try safe mode
[09:15] <Barnabas> woutervddn, then try
[09:15] <Barnabas> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:15] <phper_> tomgeorge: no, from a folder in the hard drive, but I could run it from USB, no problem
[09:15] <woutervddn> Barnabas, I can access it but only with 2.6.35-28-generic
[09:15] <woutervddn> I'll try it..
[09:15] <phper_> but isn't there a command to upgrade my 8.04 ubuntu to 9.04?
[09:16] <herkupus> YankDownUnder: the webpage is wrong (outdated) about upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04. it is no longer possible since lifecycle for 8.04 is over. we are talking about 8.04 desktop, aren't we?
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> phper_, Did you read the page link I sent you?
[09:16] <phper_> no, I couldn't
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> Never mind - never mind.
[09:17] <ThinkT510> phper_: looks like portable ubuntu is like a wubi install
[09:17] <phper_> herkupus: yes, ununtu 8.04 desktop
[09:17] <dr_willis> phper_:  you are runnit in some sort of virtual box/qemu? or  did you do an ormal install to a flash drive
[09:17] <YankDownUnder> If your "portable" install is the same as a desktop install, what's the issue? Jeesh...
[09:17] <phper_> dr_willis: it uses colinux for virtualisation
[09:18] <ThinkT510> phper_: we can't support that here
[09:18] <toumbo> Hi!!I followed the instuctions to repair my nvidia installation http://goo.gl/CXzLf but when I install the current drivers boot stops on plymouth here http://db.tt/65CD81l What should I do
[09:18] <woutervddn> Barnabas, strange though.. my mouse doesn't work in safe mode..
[09:19] <ThinkT510> phper_: why do you use proper ubuntu in a vm like virtualbox?
[09:19] <ThinkT510> don't?
[09:19] <phper_> ThinkT510: I have that, but portable ubuntu lacks a desktop, it only has a taskbar and that integrates it very well with windows
[09:20] <phper_> so, no way to upgrade 8.04? No support anymore?
[09:20] <ThinkT510> phper_: virtualbox has seamless mode that would work in a similar way
[09:20] <dr_willis> so run the update toool and upgrade?
[09:20] <dr_willis> youhave to setup the eol repos.
[09:20] <toumbo> Please help me with my question above... please
[09:21] <osmosis_paul> morning
[09:21] <woutervddn> Barnabas, it gives me perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[09:21] <kapowaz> hi there. I'm trying to mount a directory on an ubuntu box using NFS on a Mac OS X machine.
[09:21] <osmosis_paul> i have several mysql instances, somebody know how can i autorun that's instances when i reboot the system??
[09:21] <Tigerboy> phper_: I like to keep /home in a separate partition so I can install without formatting home.
[09:22] <kapowaz> I get a permissions error when I try to do so, despite having the IP address of the client in /etc/exports. What gives?
[09:22] <Barnabas> woutervddn, yes, but it probably did a reconfigure of the X server anyways
[09:22] <Barnabas> woutervddn, try to reboot
[09:22] <woutervddn> ow..
[09:22] <woutervddn> ok
[09:23] <woutervddn> Barnabas, still the same :s
[09:24] <diverdude> where is the binary for the terminal located
[09:24] <diverdude> ?
[09:25] <Barnabas> woutervddn, radeon or nvidia or something completely different
[09:25] <Barnabas> ?
[09:25] <woutervddn> radeon
[09:25] <llutz_> $ which gnome-terminal diverdude
[09:26] <woutervddn> mobility radeon HD 4570
[09:26] <Barnabas> woutervddn, I use nvidia, but it seems a lot of ppl have had problems with fglrx and radeon lately
[09:27] <woutervddn> Barnabas, not only with radeon.. nvidia as well.. it's something in the kernel..
[09:27] <YankDownUnder> NVidia is and always will be tops for linux/Ubuntu...AMD/ATI are busy playing "catch up" in this game...not that they're spending alot of resource on it...
[09:27] <Barnabas> YankDownUnder, Intel isn't bad either
[09:27] <woutervddn> before my reinstall I was able to boot in 2 of my 4 kernel versions..
[09:28] <woutervddn> but now non of them work..
[09:28] <llutz_> Barnabas: intel would be nice if they offer passive-cooled  pci-e cards
[09:28]  * woutervddn thinks he should start a company producing decent linux laptops with decent support -_-'
[09:29] <Barnabas> woutervddn, how can you retain the old kernel versions if you have done a reinstall ?
[09:30] <Barnabas> woutervddn, in any case you should use the kernel version tested with your current distro release - if not all kinds of things might stop working
[09:30] <woutervddn> barnabas, I can't..
[09:30] <woutervddn> Barnabas, yes.. but it has to work then :p
[09:31] <woutervddn> ooh hell, I'll just back all data up an do a total swipe of my drive.. maybe it works :)
[09:31] <Barnabas> woutervddn, ok its an upgrade you ran :-)
[09:31] <weecol> who's where?
[09:32] <woutervddn> Barnabas, no.. euhm.. I had 10.10 but updated in april to 11.04. yesterday my theme went haywire and nautilus kept crashing, after reboot I still had the ugly theme in the login window but I couldn't log in..
[09:32] <woutervddn> so I updated from 11.04 to 11.04 with the live cd :)
[09:33] <woutervddn> now the theming works and I have everything (expect mouse) in safe mode, but I still don't manage to boot into a decent X session
[09:33] <Barnabas> woutervddn, from 11.04 to 11.04 is that even possible?
[09:34] <Barnabas> woutervddn, try to update all your packages then
[09:34] <Barnabas> sudo apt-get update
[09:34] <woutervddn> Barnabas, yeah, I didn't know it either, but it listed it :p
[09:35] <Barnabas> sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[09:35] <woutervddn> Barnabas, tried the update.. will  try full-upgrade
[09:35] <Tigerboy> woutervddn: i tried a few drivers on one machine at got the slightly older ati  driver to work... the latest kernels are borked for ati... should be fixed at some point
[09:35] <Barnabas> woutervddn, note that was using aptitude
[09:35] <woutervddn> ok
[09:36] <woutervddn> Tigerboy, yeah, I hope it's fixed fast :)
[09:36] <mediawork> hi
[09:36] <silare> What's the char limit for a deb package's name, version number, and the small description in Synaptic in the list?
[09:37] <Tigerboy> can't recall the number but i it ended in 4 and the newest driver ended in 6 so it was almost the exact same thing and it worked great.
[09:37] <woutervddn> anyhow worst case scenario ubuntu doesn't work anymore on my laptop and I'd either have to buy a new one or sweat it out a couple of months :)
[09:37] <Barnabas> woutervddn, I am pretty sure the oss version works, the closed source - that is another matter
[09:38] <Barnabas> especially from ati
[09:38] <wandoor> hai
[09:38] <Tigerboy> the ati 3d open source drivers are getting better all the time
[09:38] <woutervddn> ^indeed
[09:38] <wandoor> pls help
[09:38] <Amoz> silare, I don't think there's a hard limit, but 60 chars for the short description is what it says when you start packaging it
[09:38] <Amoz> silare, dunno about the others
[09:38] <woutervddn> the open driver was lagging on me sometimes
[09:39] <wandoor> how to download odin setup
[09:39] <Boothk> Hey, anybody here know mnuch about configuring Unity - without CCSM?
[09:39] <dybb> hi I keep getting error 105 101 & 109 when browsing the web can some one help me out please?
[09:39] <Slart> Boothk: ccsm is for configuring compiz, not unity
[09:39] <silare> Amoz: Ahh. Where'd you find this? I've been Googling for a few hours and I've had no helpful results. ._.;
[09:39] <Amoz> dybb, have you tried google it?
[09:39] <Amoz> dybb, ;)
[09:39] <dybb> yes
[09:39] <dybb> i did
[09:39] <Boothk> Slart: Are they not the same?
[09:40] <dybb> but i only get tat it was a DNS error
[09:40] <Amoz> silare, it's in the example package files, i.e if you run dh_make
[09:40] <dybb> i think
[09:40] <Slart> Boothk: I would say no... let me see if I can find a good explanation of what it is unity actually does
[09:41] <dybb> not sure right now
[09:41] <Boothk> Slart: hm... basically, I need to modify a script I wrote for Ubuntu Netbook Remix, that stopped users from modifying the available applications in the launcher
[09:42] <Slart> Boothk: ah.. there is a unity configuration plugin for ccsm that lets you change some unity stuff
[09:43] <Slart> Boothk: unity is the panel and application launcher.. compiz does the rendering and effects on the desktop
[09:44] <Slart> Boothk: not sure if this is helpful but it might be a start http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[09:44] <mediawork> Hi
[09:44] <mediawork> I have a usb stick that appears to have a damaged/erase mbr
[09:45] <mediawork> so the partitioning information is perhaps corrupt... abd/or the filesystem header.
[09:45] <mediawork> and/or
[09:45] <mediawork> is there any point in using ddrescue?
[09:45] <Boothk> slart: I'm afraid I saw that already.. my issue is that I'm trying to restrict editing of the launchers, via a shell script. Ideally, i'd like to know where the settings for unity/compiz are stored and lock the permissions on them
[09:45] <mediawork> ddrescue seems to be a glorified dd
[09:46] <dr_willis> if you wat to try to save the data..yes
[09:46] <mediawork> and only copies byte for byte everything from my drive
[09:46] <Slart> Boothk: mm, it seems all the stuff I've found so far is very.. user-oriented.. how to change background colors and such
[09:46] <prix> why can i print document in libreoffice with color?? the settings are corrects but it print black and white ? what can i do ?
[09:46] <silare> Amoz: Where are the example package files though? I just ran dk_make and it says "I cannot understand the directory name or you have an invalid directory name!"
[09:46] <mediawork> dr_willis: I seem to end up with the same thing as when I do dd.
[09:46] <diverdude> where do i find the system menu in unity?
[09:46] <Boothk> slart: Certainly is a bit difficult to script for..
[09:46] <zeloran> small question, where in /dev can i find the device for a hardware raid?
[09:47] <dr_willis> mediawork:  if you have hardware failures and other issues.. that would mean ddrescue is doig a good job
[09:47] <mediawork> I think I need some tool that might repair or rebuild the mbr  and/or filesystem headers
[09:47] <dr_willis> dd can fail badly at times
[09:47] <mediawork> dr_willis: no, I dont think the usb stick has errors.
[09:47] <Amoz> silare, it's for packaging new debian packages, you need to have a source directory and stuff. But if you wan't to know more about the limits, I guess you could read in the debian packaging manual
[09:48] <dr_willis> mediawork:  then fsck the filesystem perhaps
[09:48] <mediawork> dr_willis: ok, but basically this is nice... 	 I now have an exact byte for copy of my usb drive
[09:48] <silare> Amoz: So something like www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide ? (Sorry if I sound a bit stupid; I seriously didn't know what to Google this whole time...)
[09:48] <dr_willis> you normally image, the try to fix the image, for safest recovery
[09:48] <mediawork> dr_willis:  currently I only have /dev/sdb   and no  /dev/sdb1 2 3 ...
[09:49] <diverdude> where do i find the system menu in unity?
[09:49] <shomon> my ubuntu laptop has overheated, and when I turn it on now, (unless I boot from a disk) I get a mouse pointer in a blank screen which doesn't move. How can I diagnose that? Or can I even run a "diff" of some kind from the install cd?
[09:49] <llutz_> mediawork: try testdisk
[09:49] <mediawork> dr_willis:   isnt dd of the drive some sort of image?  ...
[09:49] <llutz_> !testdisk
[09:49] <dr_willis> its an image yes..
[09:49] <mediawork> dr_willis:  is it an image that I can inspect as a loop device?
[09:50] <dr_willis> image it to a file, use testdisk, and fsck on the file
[09:50] <mediawork> llutz_:  thanks
[09:50] <dr_willis> mediawork:  you got it
[09:50] <llutz_> !info testdisk
[09:50] <dr_willis> i rescued 1.5tb of data via ddrescue once
[09:51] <diverdude> where do i find the system menu in unity?
[09:51] <zilch_> hello, I want to put up a reverse proxy/load balancer for my https traffic at the same time don't want loose my original client's ip address, what would best serve the purpose ?
[09:51] <dr_willis> took over a week.....
[09:51] <shomon> is there a package that will compare your ubuntu install to an online image or to a disk - maybe to check for rootkits even
[09:51] <Algorith> when someone has locked the screen and you want to log in with your own account (but the switch user option in the gui has seemingly been deactivated), how do you do it without rebooting?
[09:51] <Amoz> silare, myabe you can find something useful here http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/04/msg01118.html
[09:51] <mediawork> dr_willis:  ok I c... by repeated tries on the faulty disk
[09:51] <dr_willis> mediawork:  yep.
[09:52] <mediawork> dr_willis:  ddrecovery is useful 4 sure
[09:52] <mediawork> ddrescue
[09:52] <dr_willis> mediawork:  ddrescue good for dvd backup rescues also
[09:52] <mediawork> dr_willis: good point... I'll remember that
[09:53] <jify> hi guys, i have a question, some of the icons on my panels mysteriously go missing everytime i restart my machine for no reason i can see, these are the trash and shutdown icons so far.
[09:53] <Slart> Boothk:  meh.. I give up.. this page was probably the best I found http://askubuntu.com/questions/36274/tips-and-tricks-for-unity   but it's still mostly about the regular user stuff.. not much info on the backend
[09:54] <Slart> Boothk: perhaps a mail to the unity developer mailing list might be worth it
[09:54] <silare> Amoz: Ooh, nice. That helps with the name/version a lot. And you mentioned the short description being 60 chars?
[09:55] <Amoz> silare, yeah the short description I'm quite sure about. It's recommended to be kept at maximum 60 chars
[09:55] <silare> Amoz: And then the long desc is just kinda' unbounded, right? o.o
[09:56] <Boothk> slart: Alright, thanks anyway
[09:56] <Free-man> Algorith has 3key salute been deactivated?
[09:57] <Amoz> silare, I guess it is. well, within reasonable limits
[09:57] <Amoz> just as the short one
[09:57] <Free-man> Algorith skip last; has ctrl-alt bkpc been deactivated?
[09:57] <zilch> I want to setup a reverse proxy/ load balancer for my https traffic, but would like to have/retain access to original client's IP address, is it possible ?
[09:58] <Free-man> zilch do not use anony proxy then; read proxy docs
[09:58] <shomon> you could ask on #httpd zilch - they might direct you to some other place.. I've heard of squid but there may be much better ones now...
[10:02] <zilch> shomon, is it on freenode ?
[10:02] <shomon> yes
[10:03] <Raenzenman> hi
[10:03]  * Raenzenman schreit ahhh
[10:03] <zilch> shomon, Free-man , oki, thanks !!
[10:06] <mediawork> im inspecting my usb-disk image using hexdump
[10:07] <mediawork> I can see soemthing like a line of ff ff ff ff ...
[10:07] <mediawork> followed by a *
[10:07] <mediawork> a line with only a *
[10:07] <mediawork> then followed by loads of data
[10:07] <Algorith> @Free-man: thanks, it works
[10:07] <mediawork> Im wondering what hexdump is saying with this line of only *
[10:08] <mediawork> actually... Im hoping I can figure out the start offset of my lost partition on this disk
[10:08] <Slart> mediawork: one or more lines that looks exactly like the last one
[10:09] <mediawork> Slart:  ok Ic.
[10:09] <Slart> mediawork: or better.. looks like the line above
[10:09] <mediawork> Slart: ok cool
[10:09] <mediawork> Slart:  so basically hexdump is telling me there are 2 or more ff ff ff ff lines
[10:09] <Slart> mediawork: yes
[10:09] <mediawork> Slart:  why would my partition start with ff ff ff ff lines?
[10:09] <mediawork> Slart:  is that normal... Im expecting to see the mbr there
[10:10] <mediawork> Slart:  but off course my mbr is damaged... I know that
[10:10] <Slart> mediawork: if you do a hexdump of an entire drive which you've zero'd out you'd get two lines.. one with zeros and then the *
[10:10] <mediawork> Slart:  cool... very nice to know
[10:10] <Slart> mediawork: I have no idea what a mbr looks like in hex.. never really looked at it
[10:10] <mediawork> Slart:  ok :) thanks..
[10:11] <mediawork> the first line that follows the ff lines is this one ...    0f34000 4ec4 92c5 9743 3f7e adfd b13e cbca c848
[10:12] <ragesh> can anyone help regarding fedora15???
[10:12] <mediawork> so I suppose I have a sh**tload of ff ff ff ff lines
[10:12] <Slart> mediawork: indeed.. lots and lots
[10:12] <mediawork> 0f340000 is my offset
[10:12] <mediawork> Slart: ehm... how many is that ?
[10:12] <Slart> ragesh: Fedora? as in the os?
[10:12] <dr_willis> ragesh:  some reason you are not asking i #fedora?
[10:12] <mediawork> Slart: ehm how many Bytes for example
[10:13] <Free-man> mediawork which fstype was it?
[10:13] <mediawork> Free-man:  Im not sure... but I would think it was NTFS... this is a 32GB us dongle
[10:14] <Free-man> bummer
[10:14] <Slart> mediawork: 255 066 112 bytes
[10:14] <mediawork> bought and set up within a year
[10:14] <ragesh> dr_willis : lots of online users her So my chances to get a right ans is more here
[10:14] <mediawork> Free-man:  well... maybe it was vfat...
[10:14] <Free-man> bummer still
[10:14] <mediawork> Free-man:  can I find out which one it was?
[10:14] <Slart> mediawork: so approx 243 MB
[10:14] <dr_willis> ragesh:  not really. since its offtopic for here
[10:14] <Free-man> mediawork fdisk -l device
[10:14] <Free-man> sda hda etc
[10:15] <mediawork> Free-man:  my mbr is all wiped out with ff ff s it seems.
[10:15] <blink> I accidentally pasted file replacing an existing one, how can I bring the old one? It got valuable information..
[10:15] <Free-man> mediawork try fdisk -l anyway
[10:15] <mediawork> Free-man: ok
[10:15] <Free-man> mediawork be root
[10:16] <ragesh> dr_willis: Ok. Thank you. I'm new to IRC so dont know much. Can u suggest a good channel where I can get help regarding fedora??
[10:16] <dr_willis> ragesh:  the fedora channel, and forums
[10:17] <mediawork> Free-man:   here is my output of fdisk -l  http://pastebin.com/duDTnF8U
[10:17] <ppurka> is there a way to make "udisks --mount <device>" work properly? I am consistently getting "Mount failed: Not authorized" messages. ck-list-sessions shows my user as active and the display
[10:17] <dr_willis> you havet even mentioed the actual fedora issue...
[10:17] <mediawork> Free-man:  can you see any useful info in there?
[10:17] <Kingsy> can someone help me install a few packages on ubuntu? I need various pear,php and mysql packages / extensions installed.. for example JpGraph the php graph library
[10:17] <Kingsy> can I use apt-get for these things?
[10:17] <Free-man> mediawork plenty; did the partition use the whole disk?
[10:18] <mediawork> Slart:  I suppose 243 MB at the beginning of a usb drive all ff ff ff.... is unusual...
[10:18] <mediawork> Free-man: yes
[10:18] <Free-man> mediawork better
[10:18] <mediawork> Free-man:  I partitioned and formatted it on linux
[10:18] <phper_> Hello. I am now using virtualbox + ubuntu 11.01
[10:18] <mediawork> Free-man:  I just dont remember if I used NTFS of VFAT
[10:18] <Free-man> dr_willis what's the name of the hd explorer recovery tool?
[10:18] <Slart> mediawork: yes, are you trying to recover what was on that drive? or you're just trying to get it to work again?
[10:18] <ThinkT510> phper_: you mean 11.04
[10:19] <silare> Amoz: Ah, makes sense then. Thanks a lot though; this ended like... 10 hours of Google failure.
[10:19] <dr_willis> parted/fixpast/gparted?
[10:19] <Anon753> hi guys
[10:19] <Free-man> ty
[10:19] <phper_> I input apt-get remove wine at virtuavox ubuntu 11.04 but I get error message:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:19] <dr_willis> fixpart
[10:19] <Slart> phper_: are you running synaptic or something else in the background?
[10:19] <Free-man> mediawork find & read about parted, fixpast, gparted and similar tools
[10:19] <mediawork> Slart: I want to recover what was on there, as much as is possible... acutally...  mostly PDF ,  word DOC.
[10:19] <phper_> Slart: I don't think so, how do I find out?
[10:19] <dr_willis> !fixapt | phper_
[10:19] <Free-man> mediawork this is gonna take time to do right; dont rush
[10:20] <mediawork> Free-man:  its an adventure... I have already made dd and ddrescue backups of the disk
[10:20] <mediawork> Free-man: I will work on those
[10:20] <Free-man> ok gl
[10:20] <Slart> mediawork: ah.. there are some tools around for that.. testdisk is one.. but there are a couple of others that are easier to use.. can't remember the names of those at the moment.. something like "image restore" , I think
[10:21] <ragesh> dr_willis: Thank you man!!
[10:21] <Slart> phper_: that's the kind of error message you get when there is something else installing in the background.. or even just a window running synaptic or some other apt process
[10:22] <phper_> Slart: thanks, now it is working (apt-get remove wine)
[10:22] <mediawork> Slart: Free-man: dr_willis:  I found this page... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecover
[10:22] <Free-man> ok
[10:22] <phper_> y
[10:22] <mediawork> Slart: Free-man: dr_willis: seems to list a lot of different tools
[10:22] <ppurka> mediawork: i wasnt around to listen to your problem. but from above messages, it looks like you deleted some files. if the partition was ext3/4 then try extundelete
[10:22] <Free-man> mediawork k
[10:22] <Free-man> ppurka msos fs
[10:22] <ppurka> ah ok
[10:22] <Slart> mediawork: foremost is another on I recognize.. from that page
[10:22] <Kingsy> can someone help me with my issue?
[10:23] <Free-man> what prob
[10:23] <mediawork> ppurka:   well... what happened is that some problem pc of my dads friend seems to have damaged the partition table of my dads usb
[10:23] <mediawork> ppurka:  the usb seems to have 245 MB of simmple ff ff ff ff ....  at the beginning.
[10:23] <Free-man> mediawork idear:
[10:23] <Slart> mediawork: ah.. magic rescue is the one I was talking about.. it was called image rescue in the beginning (since it was written to restore images from memory cards.. then they expanded it to restore all kinds of files)
[10:23] <naomi> hi i vae a problem with x settings
[10:23] <mediawork> ppurka:  fdisk doesnt give any partition info
[10:23] <ppurka> mediawork: then it is probably testdisk which can restore it
[10:24] <Free-man> mediawork 1. dd image is only a few gig large?
[10:24] <Guest35740> i messed up with ppa repositories and synaptic upgrades
[10:24] <Guest35740> and then
[10:24] <Slart> mediawork: or.. wait.. Photorec was the one... shesh.. I need more coffee
[10:24] <mediawork> Free-man:   the dd image is 32GB large. just like the disk
[10:24] <Kingsy> Free-man - I need to install a few extensions etc on ubuntu, and I am not sure how to do it, for example the php extension jpgraph
[10:24] <Guest35740> the display is set up to low resolution and only the part of screen is visible ad desktop rest of
[10:24] <Kingsy> also some pear and mysql extensions
[10:24] <mediawork> Free-man: its a large usb drive 32Gigs.
[10:24] <ppurka> mediawork: TestDisk can   Fix partition table, recover deleted partition (on its homepage: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk )
[10:24] <Free-man> mediawork 2. copy image to new file;  fdisk -l  on that;...
[10:25] <naomi__> ok how to restore previous xserver/screen config?
[10:25] <mediawork> Free-man:  exactly same result as dd on the sdb device
[10:25] <Free-man> mediawork 3. then do a real fdisk call on that new file for a test run, then try to mount it to /mnt
[10:25] <naomi__> p-l-e-a-s-e?
[10:25] <mediawork> Free-man:   mount -o loop kinda thing?
[10:25] <Free-man> yes
[10:26] <mediawork> Free-man:  I need to specify an offset right... maybe the offset all the way to the end of the ff ff ff junk?
[10:26] <Slart> naomi__: I don't think you can.. unless you used some kind of editor that makes backups for you
[10:26] <mediawork> Free-man: let me show you my hexdump of the beginning of this disk.
[10:26] <naomi__> there are no way to fix ubuntu ?
[10:27] <ppurka> anyone has any idea about the udisks --mount thing? how can I make it "authorized" :)
[10:27] <naomi__> the system is working i am using it now
[10:27] <Kartagis> has anyone used linkchecker? I need to http://www.example.com/dir, not http://www.example.com
[10:27] <Free-man> mediawork on the new file, you'll be writing a new part record, at 0, then W, then test mount;  the table is part of the bootloader, so dont worry about it. that's a different problem
[10:27] <Free-man> mediawork no dont show.
[10:27] <Slart> naomi__: I have no idea what kind of problem you're experiencing.. you only asked if you could restore a previous configuration
[10:28] <Milp_main> im looking for a super lightweight graphical browser, any recommendations?
[10:28] <shomon> dillo
[10:28] <shomon> or w3m with the graphics turned on... not sure how you do that these days
[10:28] <Firmin> hey
[10:28] <Milp_main> ok thank you shomon
[10:29] <Firmin> Im on 11.04 with no panels nothing just terminal. Any ideas
[10:29] <Milp_main> now i also need a textbased browser, which is best?
[10:29] <Free-man> elinks
[10:29] <Free-man> any really
[10:29] <Milp_main> ok thanks, what about lynx?
[10:29] <Free-man> sure
[10:29] <Free-man> links too
[10:29] <siegen> ey guys some real time irc channel?
[10:29] <Milp_main> dunno, i found those weird
[10:29] <Free-man> tuff )
[10:29] <siegen> i mean kernel real time o so
[10:30] <nothingspecial> naomi, you can completely reset it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, reset it that is as if you'd just installed. Not previous settings you understand
[10:30] <Firmin> on 11.04  unity with no panels are there any direct commands to switch to ubuntu classic ?
[10:30] <Milp_main> oh dillo doesnt support javascript and all that stuff?
[10:30] <mediawork> Free-man:   ehm.. sorry I dont understand what I'll be doing..  should I be trying to mount the image of the disk as it is?
[10:30] <Free-man> duno
[10:30] <Free-man> mediawork to test that it's a good image
[10:31] <mediawork> Free-man:  ok so I'll do mount -o loop -t auto myimage /mnt/disk
[10:31] <Free-man> ok
[10:31] <Milp_main> ok uuh correction: im looking for a super lightweight graphical browser, that supports all the stuff like javascript and so on
[10:31] <Firmin> on 11.04  unity with no panels are there any direct commands to switch to ubuntu classic ?
[10:32] <dr_willis> !ifo midori
[10:32] <ThinkT510> Milp_main: that is a bit of a contradiction, but i suppose midori is more of what you're looking for
[10:32] <dr_willis> !info midori
[10:32] <Milp_main> thank you
[10:33] <shomon> does anyone know how to start diagnosing an ubuntu installation of 10.10, which won't start up?
[10:33] <Milp_main> the thing is that im looking for a really lightweight browser that is actually useful on common modern sites, like facebook. Because the normal smartphone browsers are really useless and things like chrome or firefox are way too heavy
[10:33] <shomon> it only displays a prompt in a blank screen.
[10:33] <Free-man> Milp_main opera?
[10:33] <dr_willis> shomon:  you mea a bash prompt?
[10:33] <Kingsy> Free-man: can you help ? by any chance?
[10:34] <shomon> dr_willis, no, a mouse prompt which doesn't move
[10:34] <Free-man> Kingsy if i knew i would have responded
[10:34] <Milp_main> Free-man uh i don't think opera will be that much faster if firefox or even chrome already takes 5 minutes to start
[10:34] <Free-man> try it
[10:34] <dr_willis> shomon:  you mean a mouse pointer? on a blank x desktop?
[10:34] <Milp_main> will do
[10:34] <Kingsy> np
[10:35] <mediawork> Free-man: http://pastebin.com/jC68FSLN
[10:35] <mediawork> Free-man:  I tried to mount with auto... vfat and ntfs..
[10:35] <Kingsy> Free-man: I just cant find any of the packages I want to install.. for example --> pdo_sqlite ?
[10:35] <Firmin> Guys my unity compltely failed no panels or anything. Any ideas ?
[10:35] <Free-man> Kingsy i'm not unbuntu user; i just hep with general linux prob, not dist-specific
[10:35] <alaing> can someone tell me which users is used to access my files from my web server /var/www
[10:36] <Kingsy> ah ok np
[10:36] <alaing> what/who is www-data?
[10:36] <Free-man> mediawork ok, now copy to new file, fdisk it, define wholedisk partition for it, write, mount.
[10:36] <Firmin> Guys my unity compltely failed no panels or anything. Any ideas ?
[10:36] <dori922> hey bros! :D
[10:36] <Kingsy> can someone tell me how to go about installing php / sql extensions on ubuntu ?
[10:37] <Free-man> Firmin switch to console and type?
[10:37] <Free-man> mediawork make sure of dismount
[10:37] <shomon> dr_willis, sorry had a phone call! Yes I see a mouse pointer on a blank black x desktop, yes, and none of the reset or 3 finger salutes work
[10:37] <mediawork> Free-man:  thanks... ok working on it
[10:37] <Free-man> mediawork ok
[10:38] <dr_willis> shomon:  try alt-ctrl-f1
[10:38] <shomon> dr_willis, basically anything i do to it will have to be via a boot disk
[10:38] <shomon> doesn't work
[10:38] <dori922> im trying to install XEN on UEC natty 32bit and im hitting a snag when it comes to "sudo make tools" seems a common problem going off google but i cant find a solution :( im going off the Ubuntu wiki lucid guide right now!
[10:38] <shomon> as in, it does nothing. Basically, it's frozen
[10:38] <Firmin> Guys my unity compltely failed no panels or anything. Any ideas ?
[10:38] <Free-man> dr_willis sysrq for shomon
[10:39] <shomon> turn on magic sysreq?
[10:39] <GwarTheTrolle> anyone here know how to imagemagic? I need help with compositing. :( I can make it do one file easily, but I litteraly have over 9000 (9636 to be exact) images to do this to, and I don't think * is working. For example, "composite Overlay.png Background.jpg Background.jpg" works, but  "composite Overlay.png *.jpg *.jpg" doesn't
[10:39] <Free-man> Firmin how about booting to a console instead of into gui?
[10:39] <dr_willis> shomon:  at the grub menu try adding the 'text' option after quiet splash, to get to the console, or the recovery mode
[10:39] <shomon> okay.
[10:39] <remoteCTRL> do you know of a sophtware that i can read and write sms with under ubuntu?
[10:40] <shomon> is there a help page on using the recovery or console?
[10:40] <Milp_main> what was that command to kill all processes with vnc in their name?
[10:40] <shomon> remoteCTRL, I once had a gnome thing that did that to my nokia phone
[10:40] <shomon> but maybe it depends on your phone...
[10:41] <ThinkT510> !find sms | remoteCTRL
[10:41] <Firmin> Free-man   Unity is dead. when I try to reset it says it's not installed aparently and I have no panels
[10:41] <dr_willis> vcserver has a -kill option
[10:41] <Free-man> Firmin stop booting into gui then.
[10:41] <Milp_main> yes but i mean in general
[10:41] <Free-man> Firmin boot into text mode
[10:41] <nothingspecial> GwarTheTrolle: for j in *.jpg, do commands "$j" "$j"; done
[10:41] <dr_willis> killall
[10:41] <Firmin> Free-man how /
[10:41] <remoteCTRL> shomon: ThinkT510: nice, thanks guys!
[10:41] <ThinkT510> np
[10:42] <naomi_> nick naomi___
[10:42] <mediawork> Free-man:  when I tell fdisk to add new partition... it tells me I need to set the cylinder size in expert mode.
[10:42] <Milp_main> no, there was a command where you could kill all processes that had * in it
[10:42] <mediawork> Free-man: not sure what this number should be
[10:42] <Milp_main> for example vnc
[10:42] <mediawork> Free-man: is it ok I use cfdisk?*
[10:42] <Free-man> mediawork sure
[10:42] <naomi_> is there a way to restore defaults when repairing existing installation with ubuntu-install-DVD?
[10:43] <mediawork> Free-man:  am I doing this wrong... is it ok I run fdisk on the dd copy of my disk...
[10:43] <mediawork> Free-man:   I dont know how to set it up as a loop device
[10:44] <mediawork> Free-man: if that is necessary
[10:44] <Free-man> mediawork yes; they usuall accept a file to work on
[10:44] <Free-man> mediawork not while with fdisking
[10:44] <mediawork> Free-man:  cfdisk doesnt like it
[10:44] <wildbat> naomi_: reinstall = default ;p
[10:44] <Free-man> mediawork ok; see if sfdisk will do
[10:44] <Kingsy> has anyone installed JPGraph before?
[10:44] <naomi_> i have important data locked on that machine,
[10:44] <mediawork> Free-man: ok so Ill just run fdisk on the file.
[10:44] <Free-man> mediawork sfdisk
[10:44] <naomi_> if ubuntu has to be reliable system
[10:44] <mediawork> Free-man:  just fdisk asks me to set the cylinders
[10:44] <mediawork> sfdisk
[10:44] <mediawork>  ok
[10:45] <naomi_> it should allow for fixing things broken by synaptic
[10:45] <Free-man> mediawork sfdisk read manpage
[10:45] <naomi_> ...sigh
[10:45] <sauljatta> friends
[10:46] <mediawork> Free-man:  is there a chance that sfdisk or fdisk might do something bad to my computers filesystem... I mean if I give it a cylinder number larger than the file itself.
[10:46] <nothingspecial> naomi_: use the dvd to copy your data
[10:46] <Free-man> mediawork since you're only naming a "plain" file, no.
[10:46] <ThinkT510> naomi_: can't you mount your partition and copy what you need from the livecd?
[10:47] <Kartagis> has anyone used linkchecker? I need to check http://www.example.com/dir, not http://www.example.com
[10:47] <naomi_> i can extract my data without problems, but this will take me long hours to restore all configs:P
[10:47] <Free-man> mediawork plain as in NOT a device
[10:47] <naomi_> anyway, it seems that i need it
[10:48] <adddii> f|shy: how to execute c prog in vi
[10:48] <mediawork> Free-man: ok in that case... fdisk... gave me a range of cylinder numbers from 1 - something big
[10:48] <ThinkT510> naomi_: wasn't your original problem with your screen settings?
[10:48] <mediawork> Free-man:  I should be safe to just set it to that big number
[10:48] <Milp_main> there is a vncserver running on :0 and i cant kill it with vncserver -kill :0, it just doesn't find it
[10:48] <Free-man> mediawork ok, so on the copy, try it; if it fails to mount, make new copy and retry
[10:49] <Free-man> Milp_main get PID of server, kill $PID
[10:49] <aquaboy11> error: unknown filesystem  grub rescue
[10:49] <Milp_main> Free-man how do i get the PID?
[10:49] <aquaboy11> what do i need to do
[10:49] <Free-man> pidof vncserver
[10:49] <Milp_main> it doesnt show one
[10:49] <Free-man> Milp_main be root
[10:49] <ThinkT510> aquaboy11: read some grub documentation
[10:49] <ThinkT510> !grub | aquaboy11
[10:49] <Milp_main> Free-man i am
[10:49] <Free-man> k
[10:50] <Free-man> Milp_main ps fax | less; scan by eye
[10:50] <Milp_main> nothing
[10:50] <Free-man> then not running
[10:50] <Milp_main> it was started by a script, if that matters
[10:50] <Free-man> nop
[10:50] <Milp_main> but im connected and it responds
[10:51] <Free-man> Milp_main not local then
[10:51] <arudil> hello there. http://www.pic-upload.de/view-10811804/strange.png.html any ideas why my font in the menubar looks that ugly?
[10:51] <arudil> some way to reset it?
[10:51] <dr_willis> vncserver on :0 may be the gnome vino server
[10:51] <Free-man> Milp_main ^
[10:51] <coz_> arudil,  looks like a bold font
[10:52] <dr_willis> 0 normmallt means the visible display
[10:52] <Milp_main> dr_willis oh ok, will look for that
[10:52] <Milp_main> it doesnt have a visible display, just vnc and ssh
[10:52] <dr_willis> :1+ are hidden ines
[10:52] <arudil> i just updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and kept my ~home;
[10:52] <Free-man> yay
[10:52] <Milp_main> ooh i found it going through another time
[10:52] <Milp_main> its xtightvnc
[10:52] <Free-man> k
[10:53] <coz_> arudil,  you might to open gnome-appearance-properties   ,, the Fonts  tab and see if any are set to bold
[10:53] <dr_willis> could be its resparning also
[10:53] <arudil> new users don't have this glitch
[10:53] <Milp_main> how do i close that list though?
[10:53] <Free-man> q
[10:53] <mediawork> Free-man: ehm... fdisk says the disk is 1048576 cylinders
[10:53] <coz_> arudil,  here I have Ubuntu bold for title font
[10:53] <Milp_main> ah thanks
[10:53] <Free-man> mediawork before or after adjustment?
[10:53] <Free-man> yw
[10:53] <mediawork> Free-man: however, it doesnt let me set the last cylinder to 1048576
[10:53] <Bluetegu> Hi, I just got my new Lenovo T420. I plan to install Ubuntu. I can't figure out why the Ubuntu certification page suggest installing 11.04 32 bit and not 64 bit. Is there some 64 bit compatibility issue?
[10:53] <mediawork> Free-man: only 267349
[10:53] <arudil> indeed. there's a bold font
[10:54] <Free-man> mediawork what's that?
[10:54] <mediawork> Free-man:  maybe i should just go with it
[10:54] <Free-man> ok
[10:54] <Free-man> mediawork you're working on copy file?
[10:54] <dr_willis> certificcation page?
[10:54] <ThinkT510> Bluetegu: install the 64 bit version
[10:54] <arudil> coz_, but my new profile, which does not have this glitch, does also have a bold font there
[10:54] <mediawork> Free-man: yes
[10:55] <Free-man> k
[10:55] <mediawork> Free-man: copy
[10:55] <Free-man> mediawork brb 3m
[10:55] <dr_willis> 32 bit suggestion is so totalbeginners dont get confused
[10:55] <Bluetegu> ThinkT510, thanks. I'll do that. I saw several posts on 64 bit installs.
[10:55] <coz_> arudil,  hmm.. so you created a new user and it is fine...yes?
[10:56] <ThinkT510> Bluetegu: works great for me, good choice on your laptop btw
[10:56] <arudil> yes. the new user works fine. but of course I don't want to use a new user *grin*
[10:56] <Bluetegu> ThinkT510, I got the i7 one. Looks great.
[10:56] <coz_> arudil,  well I believe it is possible to reset gnome to defaults...this will of course reset everything
[10:57] <coz_> arudil,    sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity   ...then restart X
[10:57] <arudil> are the unity settings stored in the gnome-settings?
[10:57] <arudil> folders?
[10:57] <alaing> how can i check what character set my server is using?
[10:57] <dr_willis> unity --reset   for just unity
[10:58] <aquaboy11>   since i reinstalled ubuntu windows wont start anymore, when i start windows i get a blinking -
[10:58] <arudil> oh; i didn't mention i'm using unity.
[10:58] <z0d> hello
[10:58] <dr_willis> compiz has some command to use
[10:59] <dr_willis> webupd8 blog site has a post on resetting ut
[10:59] <aquaboy11> i aust used startuprepair from windows now i get grub rescue
[11:00] <Bluetegu> ThinkT510, Did you have to tweak anything or was the installation smooth?
[11:00] <ThinkT510> Bluetegu: smooth as silk
[11:00] <Free-man> mediawork
[11:00] <ThinkT510> Bluetegu: just needed to install the nvidia driver, which it offered to do first boot
[11:01] <aquaboy11> and my windows partitionletter changed from c to e
[11:01] <Bluetegu> ThinkT510, Great. How much did you set for swap partition?
[11:02] <ThinkT510> Bluetegu: i don't use a swap partition, cos i don't use suspend/hibernate, the installer does warn you if you don't set swap
[11:02] <aquaboy11> could someone help me with it?
[11:02] <Free-man> mediawork
[11:02] <coz_> arudil,   not sure a unity --reset is going to fix this neither a compiz --replace & disown,,, you might have to reset gnome for that user  ,, something got messed up
[11:02] <mediawork> Free-man: yes
[11:02] <Free-man> mediawork back
[11:02] <mediawork> Free-man:  I have found something out
[11:03] <anli__>  I upgraded the dist with do-dist-upgrade, now, the login screen is just black
[11:03] <mediawork> Free-man:   fdisk and sfdisk dont like my dd backup file
[11:03] <Kre10s_> some applications are killing X xfview and friends ... were would i find the logs for them?
[11:03] <Legacy> i need a screenshot utilitie for ubuntu can anyone help?
[11:03] <anli__> Is this some kind of joke? :)
[11:03] <ThinkT510> Bluetegu: i think you need to use about 1.5 times the size of ram for swap
[11:03] <mediawork> Free-man:  they complain of not getting disk geometry
[11:03] <Free-man> mediawork ok; pondering...
[11:03] <mediawork> Free-man:  that includes correct cylinder numbers head and stuff
[11:03] <mediawork> Free-man:  I do get them correctly when running fdisk on my /dev/sdb
[11:03] <aquaboy11> how do i change my drive letter without windows?
[11:03] <Free-man> mediawork ok; so you have two copies of stick, right?
[11:03] <Bluetegu> ThinkT510, Ok. Many thanks. I hope to start and finish installation today.
[11:03] <Olotila> How do I check if this Ubuntuinstallation is using swap_
[11:04] <Olotila> How do I check if this Ubuntuinstallation is using swap_?
[11:04] <mediawork> Free-man: right
[11:04] <Olotila> I have 6GB RAM
[11:04] <dr_willis> Olotila:  free   command
[11:04] <Olotila> and 2GB swap partition, which is now empty
[11:04] <aquaboy11> how do i change my drive letter without windows?
[11:04] <Legacy> i need a screenshot utilitie for ubuntu can anyone help?
[11:04] <anli__> aquaboy11: you already asked
[11:05] <Free-man> mediawork ok; how about starting from scratch: fdisk on device; mkfs; mount -o loop; copy files out to ~/x; cp ~/x to new device-part?
[11:05] <mediawork> Free-man:  I can invoce fdisk with the correct cylinder head and sector numbers
[11:05] <Free-man> mediawork if you can mount -o loop ?
[11:05] <dr_willis> aquaboy11:  what letter to what?
[11:05] <ThinkT510> !find screenshot | Legacy
[11:05] <aquaboy11> e to c
[11:05] <Milp_main> wtf now i can't start anything in fluxbox, whatever i try to launch, it always prints a "fluxbox: double free or corruption (fasttop)" to the logfile and does nothing else
[11:05] <mediawork> Free-man:   mount -o loop fails at the moment... but there is no partition table
[11:06] <dr_willis> aquaboy11:  why are you doing this
[11:06] <aquaboy11> because ubuntu changed my win driveletter
[11:06] <ultrixx> Legacy: there should be a screenshot utility already installed in the applications menu
[11:06] <Free-man> mediawork ok; dd can skip leading blocks, od.1 can help you determine blocksize to skip
[11:06] <aquaboy11> and windows doesnt start anymore
[11:06] <dr_willis> aquaboy11:  i doubt it. those letters are based on partition location
[11:06] <dori922> im trying to install XEN on UEC natty 32bit and im hitting a snag when it comes to "sudo make tools" seems a common problem going off google but i cant find a solution :( im going off the Ubuntu wiki lucid guide right now!
[11:07] <dr_willis> first primary is c. second is d.
[11:07] <aquaboy11>   since i reinstalled ubuntu windows wont start anymore, when i start windows i get a blinking -
[11:07] <mediawork> Free-man:  all those ff ff ff lines ,  240 MB of them are leading blocks?
[11:07] <aquaboy11> i aust used startuprepair from windows now i get grub rescue
[11:07] <aquaboy11> just*
[11:07] <Free-man> mediawork those are bytes.  were there more than 1 part on the device?
[11:07] <anli__> Is it common for upgraders to 11.04 to get a black login screen?
[11:08] <mediawork> Free-man: as far as I know, no... but I guess you never know with usb sticks... Ive heard they have write only parts
[11:08] <Acidphase> maybe , his hard disk devices are out of order in BIOS now after Ubuntu marked it's drive as the active boot (mbr)
[11:08] <mediawork> read only parts
[11:08] <Free-man> mediawork they have to be compat at the fs level
[11:08] <Free-man> mediawork they have to be compat at the fstype level
[11:08] <Acidphase> and being windows does some screwy stuff like that (I've seen myself)
[11:09] <BluesKaj> hey all
[11:09] <aquaboy11> wait now windows doesnt have a letter at all
[11:09] <Acidphase> ...
[11:09] <mediawork> Free-man:  mount has an offset option
[11:09] <Free-man> mediawork ok try that
[11:09] <mediawork> Free-man:  ok
[11:10] <Acidphase> aquaboy11:: are you looking at your windows media thru dolphin or something?
[11:10] <Acidphase> media = Hard disk
[11:10] <aquaboy11> no with partition wizard
[11:11] <Acidphase> so your in windows now
[11:11] <aquaboy11> no
[11:11] <alch3mist> hello
[11:11] <alch3mist> i was wondering if someone could whisper some help to a linux n00b
[11:11] <aquaboy11> on a startupdisc with partition wizard
[11:12] <Acidphase> aquaboy11:: you didn't erase your windows install did you?
[11:12] <yoyoned> alch3mist: ask your question,
[11:12] <ThinkT510> alch3mist: you need to tell us your problem before we can help
[11:12] <aquaboy11> no of course not
[11:12] <aquaboy11> i need windows
[11:12] <Acidphase> aquaboy11:: don't take offense see it all the time had to ask =P
[11:13] <aquaboy11> i only wanted to delete ubuntu
[11:13] <aquaboy11> then i got grub rescue
[11:13] <Acidphase> what were using wubi or something ?
[11:13] <aquaboy11> installed ubuntu again
[11:13] <anli__> If I only could know which package that is broken, because I can ssh to the computer, although I only get darkness from the screen (upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04)
[11:13] <aquaboy11> now windows doesnt load
[11:14] <aquaboy11> no i used a cd to instatt
[11:14] <alch3mist> in my attempts to install linux on my desktop, my computer, after installation goes straight to windows
[11:14] <aquaboy11> install*
[11:14] <alch3mist> i installed it the same way i did on my laptop
[11:14] <alch3mist> but it skips the grub loader
[11:14] <Acidphase> and you can see your windows partition from Linux yet you can't boot into it
[11:14] <aquaboy11> yes
[11:15] <rb_> hi all, anyone here able to answer a question about live usb for me?
[11:15] <aquaboy11> i can start it in grub but then i get a flashing -
[11:15] <Acidphase> I'd try update-grub
[11:15] <Acidphase> have you?
[11:15] <aquaboy11> yep
[11:16] <aquaboy11> dint work
[11:16] <anli__> Maybe I should start crying, would make me feel better...
[11:16] <Acidphase> guessing os-probe isn't finding the os
[11:16] <yoyoned> alch3mist: did you select windows as the default whn you installed ubuntu
[11:16] <aquaboy11> i spend 7 hours yesterday to start my windows again
[11:17] <BluesKaj> !who
[11:17] <Acidphase> 7 hours?
[11:17] <aquaboy11> yes
[11:17] <Acidphase> what the hell happened
[11:17] <Acidphase> I can install like 4 Gentoo's in that time
[11:17] <Acidphase> lol
[11:17] <anli_> hm, my network is flaky
[11:18] <Acidphase> anli_:: have you tried head and shoulders =P
[11:18] <aquaboy11> i deleted the ubuntu partitions becausb i didnt need it anymore
[11:18] <anli_> haha
[11:18] <anli_> finally someone that replies on me :)
[11:19] <Acidphase> aquaboy11::  what version of windows is it btw ?
[11:19] <aquaboy11> windows7
[11:19] <Acidphase> thats really odd Grub2 should have no problems there
[11:20] <aquaboy11> after i reinstalledeubuntu i get a flashing bar when i try windows
[11:20] <Acidphase> are you 100% sure OS is there =P
[11:20] <aquaboy11> yes
[11:20] <aquaboy11> brb
[11:20] <Acidphase> okay
[11:21] <Acidphase> me too actually
[11:21] <ThinkT510> aquaboy11: is the windows partition set with a boot flag?
[11:21]  * anli_ is a boot flag
[11:21] <robin0800> aquaboy11, have you a windows cd/dvd
[11:22] <rb_> I have 11.04 server on a USB (using FAT for the FS so i can get access from Windows), when i boot into the live usb i need rw access to the USB stick (mounted on /cdrom/), it's a customized live usb, so in the chroot what do i need to change to make it mount the usb as rw not ro?
[11:22] <Free-man> rb_ are you comfortable editing etc/fstab?
[11:22] <ThinkT510> anli_: i don't do upgrades otherwise i might be able to help you, i prefer fresh installs
[11:22] <rb_> Free-man: yup
[11:22] <anli_> I also do that unless I have to do a lot of installing afterwards
[11:23] <Free-man> rb_ add two-char rw to end of line for the particular device in fstab
[11:23] <Free-man> rb_ oops wrong
[11:23] <anli_> I cant understand why there is an option to upgrade if I dont get an upgraded system ;)
[11:23] <rb_> Free-mam would that be in the chroot env or actually in the live
[11:23] <Free-man> rb_ change "defaults" to "defaults,rw" for the particular device in fstab
[11:23] <anli_> ThinkT510: thanks for replying however :)
[11:23] <Free-man> rb_ be safe, do both :)
[11:24] <Free-man> rb_ but mounting a dev rw is not really the right thing to do
[11:24] <rb_> Free-man: whats the right way to do it?
[11:24] <anli_> Is it gdm thats broken if I cannot even get a login screen?
[11:24] <Free-man> rb_ i hate complicated...
[11:24] <magikid> anli_, it would be nice if Ubuntu had a rolling release branch
[11:25] <rb_> lol :)
[11:25] <anli_> yeah, easy is better
[11:25] <Free-man> rb_ is dev a boot-root thingy?
[11:25] <Free-man> rb_ when is dev mounted on /cdrom? in boot sequence
[11:26] <rb_> Free-man: not sure, the usb has squashfs on it which has the main os files on it etc
[11:26] <derek> im having problems with 11.04 since having compiz can anyone help?
[11:26] <rb_> Free-man: I haven't set it up with persistance yet, if i did that would that allow changes to /etc/fstab to persist
[11:26] <Olotila> How do I change keyboard layout to scandinavic?
[11:26] <anli_> derek: you also have a black screen? :)
[11:27] <derek> i seem to have lost my launcher bar, and menu toolbar on the top of the screen
[11:27] <Free-man> rb_ sorry, im not smart enough to properly answer.
[11:28] <derek> no black screen tho
[11:28] <anli_> ah
[11:28] <rb_> Free-man: no worries, thanks for the pointers i'll see how i get on tinkering with etc fstab, i suspect it gets mounted as part of the boot sequence before that
[11:28] <mediawork> Free-man:  I calculated those ff ff ff -s at the beginning of the disk are 255065968
[11:28] <mediawork> Free-man: bytes
[11:29] <Free-man> rb_ in that case, if with grub, edit commandline and add two-char `rw' to end of line
[11:29] <DrVOTProductions> Hello.
[11:29] <derek> i tried to uninstall it thru software center but that seemed to make things worse
[11:29] <Free-man> mediawork ok
[11:29] <mediawork> Free-man: moutning with this offset doesnt give anything
[11:29] <Acidphase> derek should be able to just right click and add a new panel worst case
[11:29] <aquaboy11> im back
[11:29] <Free-man> ok
[11:29] <mediawork> Free-man: just wrong fs type
[11:29] <rb_> Free-man: yes that makes sense, it's not using grub, its a syslinux thing, but same logic should work!
[11:29] <Free-man> rb_ ok
[11:29] <YankDownUnder> How to lose a linux client: try to install a Huawei K3771 (new, no driver, no updated usb-modeswitch.conf) on Ubuntu. Lovely that.
[11:29] <Acidphase> derek:: are you in KDE or gnome ?
[11:29] <Free-man> mediawork learn about partition recovery.
[11:30] <mediawork> Free-man:   Im wondering if it should work anyway to mount an fs,  with an offset probably some way into the filesystem??
[11:30] <aquaboy11> i have a windows recovery disc
[11:30] <derek> gnome i think
[11:30] <Free-man> mediawork perhaps
[11:30] <mediawork> I could try it on my root linux partition
[11:30] <aquaboy11> and where do i see if it has a bootflag?
[11:30] <Free-man> mediawork be careful with live data!!!
[11:31] <ThinkT510> aquaboy11: open gparted
[11:31] <Acidphase> derek:: go head and try to install compiz again, or even compiz-fusion , there is another app called compiz-icon which a system tray icon for compiz allows you change the windows manager and decorators on the fly
[11:31] <aquaboy11> ok
[11:31] <derek> im quite new to linux, so this may not be as hard to fix as it seems to me
[11:31] <anli_> hm, when I did apt-get upgrade in my blackened ubuntu, it started to fetch a lot of packages
[11:31] <anli_> I cross my hands
[11:31] <mediawork> Free-man:   can I set my disk image file as an actual device under /dev ?
[11:31] <derek> i tried to get them, but once they are installed i cant open them
[11:31] <mediawork> Free-man:  this would make things easier I think
[11:32] <dori922> im trying to install XEN on UEC natty 32bit and im hitting a snag when it comes to "sudo make tools" seems a common problem going off google but i cant find a solution :( im going off the Ubuntu wiki lucid guide right now!#
[11:32] <Acidphase> derek:: that's fine I didn't wake upone day and said to myself wow I know linux now
[11:32] <Acidphase> it's a constant learning curve
[11:32] <Free-man> mediawork nop; device nodes are not files per se
[11:32] <dori922> getting an Error 2
[11:32] <anli__> Sorry for discon
[11:32] <mediawork> Free-man:  I mean something like /dev/loop
[11:32] <Free-man> mediawork losetup
[11:33] <Acidphase> derek what are you trying to install specifically ?
[11:33] <aquaboy11> im installing grub again
[11:33] <Acidphase> aquaboy11:: not a bad idea
[11:33] <derek> acidphase: i used software center to install them, then found a shortcut key to get into my apps, but i couldnt open them from there, is there another way?
[11:34] <aquaboy11> i have grub rescue so i need to
[11:34] <Acidphase> you can use the terminal
[11:34] <derek> i was just playing with some of the functions of the program, and lost my toolbars and launchers and cant get them back
[11:34] <Acidphase> derek see if ctrl_alt+t loads your console
[11:35] <Acidphase> oops type ctrl+alt+t =P
[11:36] <Acidphase> derek once you get into the console you can use: sudo apt-get install <package name>
[11:36] <aquaboy11> how do i delete grub completely?
[11:36] <perlsyntax> autostick_split_windows
[11:36] <perlsyntax> sorry
[11:36] <karlw> How do you resume Gnome when jumping out to TTY? (using ctrl+alt+F2)
[11:36] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:37] <SunTzu> mediawork back from the netdead
[11:37] <rb_> Free-man: no luck with that, as passing rw to the kernel means the squashfs is mount rw, need to find out where in the startup it is mounting the usb to /cdrom
[11:37] <derek> acidphase: that didnt work, i dont even have headers to minimize my windows anymore  so this might take some time for me to find
[11:37] <SunTzu> rb_ i unponged; might have missed prior lines; start over
[11:37] <karlw> Anyone?
[11:37] <mediawork> SunTzu: ehm what is netdead
[11:37] <karlw> im stuck in textmode.. =(
[11:38] <mediawork> I am getting... loop: can't get info on device daddsk1: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[11:38] <mediawork> from losetup
[11:38] <SunTzu> mediawork oops; other nick; ok. splitsville
[11:38] <YankDownUnder> karlw, Meaning?
[11:38] <rb_> SunTzu: I have 11.04 server on a USB (using FAT for the FS so i can get access from Windows), when i boot into the live usb i need rw access to the USB stick (mounted on /cdrom/), it's a customized live usb, so in the chroot what do i need to change to make it mount the usb as rw not ro?
[11:38] <aquaboy11> i want to delete grub
[11:38] <DistroJockey> karlw: usually Alt+F7
[11:38] <karlw> How do you resume Gnome when jumping out to TTY? (using ctrl+alt+F2)
[11:38] <Acidphase> derek change to different tty, ctrl+alt+F1 to get back to X (where you are now) ctrl+alt+F7
[11:38] <SunTzu> rb_ too far bck :)
[11:38] <karlw> Yank: I wannt get back to gnome from TTY
[11:38] <BluesKaj> karlw, ctrl,alt,f7 or 8 or 9
[11:38] <YankDownUnder> karlw, CTRL+ALT+F7
[11:38] <SunTzu> rb_ i mean from split
[11:38] <karlw> --> DistroJockey
[11:39] <rb_> SunTzu: sorry, :) we've tried passing rw to the kernel from the bootloader (syslinux)
[11:39] <SunTzu> rb_ right, tht didnt go?
[11:39] <rb_> SunTzu: nah, because the root fs is the squashfs on the USB, not the usb drive itself
[11:39] <SunTzu> ok
[11:39] <gordboy> rb_: use another usb for storage is the quick and easy answer
[11:40] <SunTzu> rb_ i havent played with this stuff yet myself
[11:40] <karlw> could someone please google for "resume gnome from tty"
[11:40] <rb_> gordboy: can't do that in this instance i'm afraid
[11:40] <karlw> ...for the key-command
[11:40] <SunTzu> karlw right or left arrow to switch tty
[11:40] <rb_> SunTzu: no worries, i'll keep hacking about until i get something that works
[11:40] <gordboy> karlw: you've had several answers already
[11:40] <SunTzu> rb_ ok; write a blog on results
[11:40] <rb_> SunTzu: :)
[11:41] <Acidphase> karlw: just /etc/init.d/xdm stop then /etc/init.d/xdm start (sometimes restart works but I find that way is less buggy)
[11:41] <gordboy> xdm ?
[11:41] <magikid> karlw: you could always just reboot
[11:41] <SunTzu> dm == disply manager
[11:41] <SunTzu> for x11, kdm, xdm, gdm
[11:42] <SunTzu> Acidphase restart == stop, start
[11:42] <BluesKaj> karlw, sudo service gdm stop or start
[11:42] <gordboy> SunTzu: i know what xdm is. and regular ubuntu doesn't use it
[11:42] <SunTzu> k
[11:42] <Acidphase> like I said found it to be less buggy that way don't ask me why
[11:42] <Acidphase> lol
[11:43] <gordboy> trying to run stuff that isn't even on the system is never going to work
[11:43] <gordboy> bye guys
[11:43] <magikid> Anyone know of some program to tile windows?
[11:43] <coz_> magikid,   compiz
[11:43] <SunTzu> magikid there are tiling wm
[11:44] <magikid> coz_: thanks
[11:44] <coz_> magikid,  make sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed  ,, opend that   as ccsm  and enable either or both the grid and tile plugins
[11:44] <yoyoned> magikid: KDE has tiling
[11:45] <SunTzu> mediawork brb
[11:45] <Acidphase> gordboy:: I was thinking his /etc/conf.d/xdm might be set to DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> howto clear recent documents in terminal?
[11:45] <magikid> SunTzu: This is my production machine so I don't want to play around with its innards that much.
[11:45] <magikid> SunTzu: thanks though
[11:45] <magikid> yoyoned: thanks
[11:45] <aquaboy11> there is a bootflag at system reserved (sda2)
[11:46] <coz_> magikid,   here is a video    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVkY6zMxCg
[11:46] <magikid> coz_: sweet, I didn't realize that compiz had tiling
[11:47] <ThinkT510> aquaboy11: sounds like a factory restore partition, can you take a screenshot of gparted for me?
[11:47] <coz_> magikid,  you tube is your friend :) also  gotbletu  <, search for his videos
[11:47] <aquaboy11> yes
[11:48] <aquaboy11> my recovery is in sda1
[11:49] <SunTzu> magikid k
[11:49] <SunTzu> mediawork bak
[11:49] <aquaboy11_> im uploading a screenshot
[11:50] <tian_> jj
[11:50] <aquaboy11_> file:///home/ubuntu/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[11:51] <derek> Acidphase: i tried to install thru terminal, worked, but i still cant open it to use it, just want to get back to defualt if theres another way?
[11:51] <ThinkT510> !screenshot | aquaboy11
[11:51] <alex--> aquaboy11: use alt + printscreen
[11:52] <alex--> aquaboy11 when I go to that link, it's pointing to my desktop, because that's my home dir
[11:52] <aquaboy11_> brb
[11:53] <Acidphase> derek you mean where you were
[11:54] <Acidphase> derek: CTRL+ALT+F7
[11:54] <Lala_Chersi> which audio driver ubuntu 10.04 uses "ALSA" or pulse audio
[11:55] <derek> acidphase: after terminal finished i tried to run under applications, can i run it thru terminal?
[11:55] <Acidphase> derek you need a X system (windows manager)
[11:55] <DistroJockey> derek: Did you press Alt+F7 like I suggested?
[11:55] <Cedara> I have a problem installing a new nvidia graphics card.
[11:56] <derek> acidpase: ctrl+alt+f7 brings me from terminal mack to here, but it wouldnt do anything else
[11:56] <pindropper> I am trying to install php 5.2 on natty. by default apt installs 5.3. how do i install an older version?
[11:56] <Acidphase> you might have to reload the windows manager
[11:56] <Acidphase> if you don't feel like doing it by command reboot :)
[11:57] <derek> acidphase: the same way as compiz in terminal?
[11:57] <aquaboy11_> im back
[11:57] <derek> distrojockey: alt+f7 didnt work for me
[11:58] <Acidphase> derek sort of just a few different commands to restart your windows manager
[11:58] <Kartagis> pindropper: http://www.nickveenhof.be/blog/reverting-or-downgrade-php-53-52-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-1004
[11:58] <SunTzu> derek alt f1?
[11:58] <Kartagis> pindropper: replace as needed
[11:58] <SunTzu> derek from gui or text?
[11:58] <aetas> alex--, hey, sorry, was away
[11:58] <aquaboy11_> http://imagebin.org/164766
[11:58] <pindropper> Kartagis: thanks!
[11:58] <aquaboy11_> http://imagebin.org/164766
[11:58] <aquaboy11_> sda1 is my recovery
[11:58] <Acidphase> he just reinstalled compiZ and stuff he just needs to restart X
[11:59] <DistroJockey> derek: ctrl+alt+F* is only needed to get out of X11, Alt+F7 should get you back
[11:59] <aquaboy11_> sda2 is system reserverd
[11:59] <Acidphase> he is back
[11:59] <Acidphase> thats how he's chatting to us
[11:59] <aquaboy11_> sda3 is the one with the windows directory
[11:59] <aquaboy11_> sda4 is for my steamgames
[11:59] <DistroJockey> Acidphase: I know this :)
[11:59] <SunTzu> Acidphase alt-arrow too
[11:59] <aquaboy11_> i mean sda 5
[11:59] <Acidphase> =P
[11:59] <ThinkT510> aquaboy11: looks like you should set sda3 with the boot flag
[12:00] <derek> acidphase: ok, how do i restart windows manager? ill give it a shot
[12:00] <aquaboy11_> in system reserved are differewnt boot files
[12:00] <Lala_Chersi> which audio driver ubuntu 10.04 uses "ALSA" or pulse audio
[12:00] <Kartagis> pindropper: np
[12:00] <Acidphase> I got yelled at for my last suggestion how to (but I'm in Gentoo things are somewhat different)
[12:00] <Kartagis> !scim
[12:01] <aquaboy11_> what are those bootfiles in systemreserved?
[12:01] <tew_> is ther any ody familar with greenstone in linux?
[12:01] <Acidphase> I have Ubuntu on my other box but it's currently being used be someone =P
[12:01] <Acidphase> by*
[12:01] <ThinkT510> aquaboy11: no idea, i only have 1 windows partition which i manually setup myself
[12:01] <SunTzu> mediawork afk
[12:01] <derek> i just dont want to have to install ubuntu again just for this
[12:02] <Cedara> Problem with installing new graphic card: GeForce GT 520 in Ubuntu 10.04 - failed to load the kernel module and running nvidia-xconfig as root doesn't help. Ideas?
[12:02] <Acidphase> derek that's unlikely
[12:02] <derek> besides its good command line practice which i havent really used until now
[12:03] <Acidphase> Linux is very unsimiliar to windows in that sense at worst case you can re-install gnome/kide what ever your using before the whole OS
[12:04] <derek> well thats some good news
[12:04] <pindropper> Kartagis: follow up question: The link assumes I have already installed php5 . I have a fresh machine with nothing installed. Would the process be the same? I mean is there something like apt-get install php5.2 ? I am sorry to ask again, but this is all very new to me.
[12:04] <aquaboy11_> how do i install grub from a ubuntu cd
[12:04] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11: You were removing Ubuntu right?
[12:05] <aquaboy11_> yes but it is installed again
[12:05] <DistroJockey> sorry aquaboy11_ ^
[12:05] <Kartagis> pindropper: then skip the steps which assume you have php 5.3
[12:05] <aquaboy11_> after i used windows startuprepair i got grub rescue
[12:05] <aquaboy11_> so i cant load anything
[12:05] <pindropper> Kartagis: ok. thanks.
[12:05] <aquaboy11_> except the cds
[12:05] <derek> acidphase: what commands do i need to install windows manager if they arent like compiz?
[12:05] <Kartagis> np again
[12:05] <linuxR> hi all, I have a very strange problem: I upgraded my computer with an additional gigabyte of ram. when booting the ubuntu install cd, everything works as expected. After the installation is finished and when booting from hard disk, everything is painfully slow (loading grub boot menu takes aber 15 seconds..). this however is only the case when I have both memory modules inserted, when I remove one, it runs normal again. ideas, anyone?
[12:06] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11_: You just wanted Windows 7 back with no Ubuntu?
[12:06] <aquaboy11_> yes
[12:06] <Bio-Nic> test
[12:06] <aquaboy11_> i just want windows 7
[12:06] <Acidphase> derek I would just reboot for now to simplify thins and see if re-installing compiz did the trick
[12:06] <Acidphase> we're not going anywhere =P
[12:06] <aquaboy11_> its still on my hard drive
[12:06] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11_: You can boot from the Windows 7 DVD and fix the MBR
[12:06] <aquaboy11_> the recovery cd?
[12:07] <xushuf> yes
[12:07] <Acidphase> said that a while ago =P
[12:07] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11_: depends on the recovery CD you have
[12:07] <Acidphase> true
[12:07] <aquaboy11_> a recovery cd that my pc made
[12:07] <aquaboy11_> i didnt get a installation disc from win7
[12:07] <aquaboy11_> with my laptop
[12:07] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11_: That may wipe the whole drive
[12:08] <Acidphase> ya was worried about that earlier
[12:08] <Cedara> where do I find the system's kernel log for the additional error messages except the one I got on booting?
[12:08] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11_: which is probably not what you want
[12:08] <xushuf> maybe you can do that with the help of some partition tools
[12:08] <Acidphase> Cedara you meen like dmesg ?
[12:08] <aquaboy11_> i have startuprepair and cmd o nthat recovery disk
[12:08] <aquaboy11_> and some other stuff that deletes everything
[12:08] <Cedara> Acidphase what I got was ""nvidia: Failed to load the nvidia kernel module. Please check your system's kernel log for additional error messages. Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specific error, 0). No drivers available."
[12:09] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11_: Here is something similar, but not exactly waht you are looking at doing:  http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ee851681.aspx
[12:09] <Cedara> Acidphase running nvidia-xconfig as root didn't help - got error message
[12:09] <coz_> Cedara,  did you reboot after installing the driver?
[12:09] <Cedara> yes
[12:09] <Acidphase> hmm sounds like you don't have it installed
[12:09] <Cedara> yeah
[12:09] <Cedara> I think so
[12:09] <coz_> Cedara,  ok and you installed the driver  via  jockey-gtk  ...yes?
[12:10] <Cedara> no, just put the new card in and hoped the old one would work too
[12:10] <coz_> Cedara,  no
[12:10] <Cedara> but now I'm running in a low graphics mode
[12:10] <Acidphase> thats why
[12:10] <Cedara> okay
[12:10] <Cedara> what do I do
[12:10] <Cedara> Ubuntu 10.04 here
[12:10] <coz_> Cedara,   open a terminal    jockey-gtk
[12:10] <aquaboy11_> ok im gonna try it now tith my recovery disc
[12:10] <coz_> Cedara,   check to see which driver is currently installed
[12:10] <Cedara> jas, coz_
[12:10] <coz_> Cedara,   you want the   nvidia_current
[12:11] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11_: Best of luck. I hope you have a backup just incase.
[12:11] <coz_> Cedara,  however,, what I would do is uninstall what is listed there,, reboot,,, then go back into jockey-gtk  and reinstall the nvidia_current driver,,, reboot and test
[12:11] <Cedara> it's searching, coz_
[12:11] <Cedara> okay, my result is in German
[12:11] <Acidphase> derek:: how did you make out?
[12:11] <Cedara> coz_ it says version current
[12:11] <Cedara> active and in use
[12:12] <coz_> Cedara,  ok uninstall that   and reboot
[12:12] <coz_> Cedara,  then reinstall it and reboot
[12:12] <derek> acidphase: i rebooted, nothing changed
[12:12] <Acidphase> sigh
[12:12] <Cedara> how do I uninstall that manually, coz_?
[12:12] <Cedara> never did that before
[12:12] <Cedara> there's a remove button at the result
[12:12] <coz_> Cedara,  there should be a button on the bottom right for that
[12:12] <Cedara> okay will do
[12:12] <Cedara> after reboot?
[12:12] <Acidphase> derek:: let me see if I have things straight with your issue, bsaically you have a blank desktop ?
[12:12] <derek> acidphase: would having more than one username make this not work right?
[12:12] <Cedara> coz_ what will happen after reboot?
[12:13] <coz_> Cedara,  then reinstall the driver and reboot again
[12:13] <Cedara> okay
[12:13] <Cedara> see you in a few coz_
[12:13] <coz_> Cedara,   after the first reboot you should still be in low graphics mode
[12:13] <coz_> Cedara,  then reinstall driver  and reboot again
[12:13] <Cedara> okay
[12:13] <coz_> Cedara,  which card did you replace it with?
[12:13] <coz_> Cedara,  version
[12:13] <Acidphase> derek:: not unless the user you're using isn't part of some group for something specific now allowing you to run something
[12:13] <Cedara> I replaced a Geforce 8600 with a GT 520
[12:14] <derek> well my background is there and 3 icons, the launcher bar is gone, and the nav bar at the top of the screen
[12:14] <coz_> Cedara, and you also plugged in the power plug to it ....yes?
[12:14] <bindi> coz_: it doesnt need pci-e power
[12:14] <coz_> ah
[12:14] <Cedara> huh?
[12:14] <coz_> Cedara,  never mind
[12:14] <Cedara> lol
[12:15] <Acidphase> derek:: if you right click on the desktop you see any option to add a panel ?
[12:15] <Cedara> coz_ how do install it afterwards?
[12:15] <Faris> Hi. I'm experiencing high CPU usage with no process causing that and no heating (my CPU usually heats up like crazy when it hits the top) . That happens both on Windows and Linux, even after a fresh install :(
[12:15] <coz_> Cedara,  same way  open jockey-gtk   click the nvidia current driver and click install
[12:15] <Cedara> coz_ will the system offer it to me, like when I first installed it?
[12:15] <coz_> Cedara,  or "activate"
[12:15] <coz_> Cedara,  just open jockey-gtk and do it from there
[12:15] <derek> acidphase: i get a create launcher, folder and document option
[12:16] <DistroJockey> derek, Acidphase: How about trying-  metacity --replace
[12:16] <ElCapitanMarklar> hey guys on my ubunutu vm i have forgotten my passphrase for my keyring. anyway to reset it?
[12:16] <aquaboy11> hm weird now my cd asks for install or memory diagnostic
[12:16] <Cedara> ok
[12:16] <Cedara> see you soon,hopefully
[12:16] <derek> distrojockey: metacity?
[12:16] <Acidphase> didn't know Ubuntu had that option good to know :)
[12:17] <DistroJockey> derek: It's the Window Manager of Gnome
[12:17] <coz_> Cedara, I think it will be fine
[12:17]  * Cedara knocks on wood
[12:17] <rly> How can I see whether the Gnome keyring has been unlocked or not?
[12:17] <coz_> if using metacity --replace  that's fine from alt+F2  ,,however if doing it from terminal    metacity --replace & disown
[12:17] <rly> Or whether the password I have entered is correct?
[12:18] <DistroJockey> coz_:  Good point :)
[12:18] <derek> acidphase, distrojockey: the compiz and windows manager icons never changed into actual icons, they stayed in the autorun icon if that helps any?
[12:18] <Faris> Hi. I'm experiencing high CPU usage with no process causing that and no heating (my CPU usually heats up like crazy when it hits the top) . That happens both on Windows and Linux, even after a fresh install :(
[12:19] <aquaboy11> wtf now my windows drive letter changed to f
[12:19] <Acidphase> well I agree with DJ if you have poor gui might as well set it back to gnomes until you find the cause
[12:19] <Acidphase> go back to your console and type:  metacity --replace
[12:19] <linuxR> hi all, I have a very strange problem: I upgraded my computer with an additional gigabyte of ram. when booting the ubuntu install cd, everything works as expected. After the installation is finished and when booting from hard disk, everything is painfully slow (loading grub boot menu takes aber 15 seconds..). this however is only the case when I have both memory modules inserted, when I remove one, it runs normal again. ideas, anyone?
[12:19] <z0d> hi acicula
[12:20] <acicula> hey z0d
[12:20] <z0d> acicula: I have the Xorg.log from yesterday (fglrx issue with 11.04, if you remember)
[12:20] <DistroJockey> derek: Maybe this will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Metacity
[12:20] <YankDownUnder> linuxR, Um...are both modules the exact same?
[12:20] <coz_> linuxR,  ^^
[12:20] <z0d> acicula: http://paste.lisp.org/display/123502
[12:20] <Acidphase> DistroJockey:: is there a hot key for console in gnome by default in Ubuntu ?
[12:21] <Cedara> okay, reboot worked
[12:21] <Acidphase> :)
[12:21] <coz_> linuxR,  also if one is larger than the other I would put the larger module in the slot closer to the cpu ,, most motherboards that is slot 1
[12:21] <coz_> Cedara,  excellent
[12:21] <z0d> acicula: 2 things I noticed 1. the fglrx kernel module isn't loaded.  modprobe doesn't find it. 2. /proc/ati is non-existentn
[12:21] <z0d> I guess the fglrx kernel module would create it
[12:21] <linuxR> YankDownUnder, as far as I can see yes...When booting from cdrom, it works flawlessly
[12:21] <Cedara> now: jockey-gtk as you said, coz_
[12:21] <DistroJockey> Acidphase: to get to the TTY's it's Ctrl+Alt+F1 - F6
[12:21] <Acidphase> yes I know that
[12:21] <YankDownUnder> linuxR, Put the new one closer to the CPU, try again...eh?
[12:21] <coz_> Cedara,  yep  then click to highlight the nvidia_current driver and click th e Activate or install button
[12:21] <linuxR> only booting from hard disk seems to be a problem in combination with the memory, which makes not much sense to me
[12:22] <Acidphase> I ment just to load console
[12:22] <Acidphase> in gnsome
[12:22] <aetas> linuxR, is this a dual boot or straight ubuntu?
[12:22] <linuxR> YankDownUnder, yep will try that...hold on
[12:22] <Cedara> coz_ it now says no proprietary drivers are used
[12:22] <coz_> Cedara,  out of curiosity  open a terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[12:22] <YankDownUnder> Acidphase, ctrl-alt-f1
[12:22] <coz_> Cedara,  right
[12:22] <Acidphase> so he wouldn't have to switch from X to tty1
[12:22] <linuxR> aetas, just ubuntu
[12:22] <DistroJockey> Acidphase: not that I know of. But Compiz has shortcut keys too
[12:22] <acicula> z0d, yeah that is what i see too
[12:22] <coz_> Cedara,   this is where you click to highlight the nvidia_current driver
[12:22] <Cedara> there is no activate button, it's greyed
[12:22] <Cedara> nothing in there
[12:22] <aetas> linuxR, ah ok...would be interested to know if it was just hardware or not, that would save time
[12:22] <coz_> Cedara,  there are no drivers in the list?
[12:22] <aquaboy11> can someone copy everything to pastebin from http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ee851681.aspx
[12:22] <Cedara> no, coz_
[12:23] <Acidphase> DistroJockey:: KDE does , ctrl+alt+t
[12:23] <coz_> Cedara,  yikes
[12:23] <coz_> Cedara,  hold on
[12:23] <Acidphase> which is why I asked =P
[12:23] <aquaboy11> plz
[12:23] <Cedara> well, it didn't yell on booting
[12:23] <acicula> z0d, can you insmod the driver by hand?
[12:23] <ThinkT510> aquaboy11: why?
[12:23] <DistroJockey> Acidphase: Alt+F2 = a Run application box
[12:23] <Acidphase> got ya
[12:23] <z0d> acicula: have you check my Xorg.0.log?
[12:24] <coz_> Cedara,  try sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  nvidia-common
[12:24] <aquaboy11> cant load the site on my psp and now im in recoverymenu
[12:24] <coz_> Cedara,   then reboot again
[12:24] <magikid> aquaboy11: http://pastebin.com/iT2vfFwv
[12:24] <acicula> z0d, yes
[12:24] <Acidphase> DistroJockey:: been a while since I've been in gnome and on Ubuntu , currently in Gentoo and on KDE
[12:24] <aquaboy11> ty
[12:24] <acicula> wh00ps, z0d yes i have
[12:24]  * Acidphase works over to his other box loads Ubuntu =P
[12:24] <dhruvasagar> Hi, can someone recommend some good reminder application ?
[12:24] <linuxR> YankDownUnder, I switched the modules, same result
[12:24] <Cedara> coz_ there is a space between current and nvidia-common?
[12:25] <coz_> Cedara,  yes
[12:25] <coz_> Cedara,   so the command is
[12:25] <YankDownUnder> linuxR, Ok...here's a question for ya - how large is your swap partition?
[12:25] <coz_> Cedara,   sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  nvidia-common
[12:25] <z0d> acicula: insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.38-10-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[12:25] <magikid> dhruvasagar: Evolution has nice integration in gnome for reminders
[12:25] <Cedara> ok, coz_ just checking for safety
[12:25] <linuxR> YankDownUnder, 2gb iirc
[12:25] <YankDownUnder> linuxR, Ok...and how much RAM do you have?
[12:25] <dhruvasagar> magikid: using evolution just for reminders has to be an overkill
[12:25] <DistroJockey> Acidphase: I hear ya :) Mostly Debian and Gnome myself but as my name suggests, I dabble ;)
[12:25] <coz_> Cedara,  if installing from terminal apt-get  a space between packages does the trick for multiple package install
[12:26] <linuxR> but that should hardly be a problem...at grub stage, there is no kernel yet and no swap partition either
[12:26] <Acidphase> DistroJockey:: lol
[12:26] <linuxR> YankDownUnder, 2gb (added 1)
[12:26] <YankDownUnder> linuxR, Have you tried doing a "memory test" from the grub boot?
[12:26] <coz_> Cedara,  if it wants to install extra dependencies  or packages  say  "Y"
[12:26] <magikid> dhruvasagar: undoubtedly but it comes installed by default.
[12:26] <Lala_Chersi> hey cant get my sound working with tvtime
[12:26] <Cedara> yep, got asked
[12:26] <Cedara> doing so, cuz_
[12:26] <Cedara> doing so, coz_
[12:26] <coz_> Cedara,  ok and remember to reboot ,,,again
[12:26] <Acidphase> there loaded the other box up in Ubuntu this will make my life eaiser now
[12:27] <Acidphase> lol
[12:27] <Cedara> will do, coz_
[12:27] <dhruvasagar> magikid: but can I easily create reminders / events without launching evolution ?
[12:27] <z0d> acicula: I have no idea why it says Invalid module format though
[12:27] <Cedara> okay, it's done, I shall reboot, coz_
[12:27] <linuxR> YankDownUnder, yes, no errors reported
[12:27] <solars> is it somehow possible to install a newer version of a package (git) than in the repos?
[12:27] <acicula> z0d, what does file /path/to/flgrx.ko say
[12:27] <YankDownUnder> linuxR, Right oh - well, then this is rather strange. Are you using the PAE kernel?
[12:27] <iceroot> solars: sure but its not a good idea
[12:28] <linuxR> YankDownUnder, what is a PAE kernel?
[12:28] <z0d> /lib/modules/2.6.38-10-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
[12:28] <iceroot> !pae | linuxR
[12:28] <magikid> dhruvasagar: might check out http://reminder-ng.sourceforge.net/
[12:29] <Cedara> back
[12:29] <dhruvasagar> magikid: I just did :)
[12:29] <coz_> linuxR,  it is a  Phisical Address Extension     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[12:29] <YankDownUnder> linuxR, It's meant: physical address extention => extends the addressings for memory => I use those kernels cuz they're faster for me - and I'm only using 2gb of RAM...so it could also be a vice-versa situation - find out what kernel you're using firstly...
[12:29] <linuxR> oh...no I don't think so...but again...the problem also exists at grub stage...when no kernel is loaded yet
[12:29] <Cedara> coz_ no yelling on reboot ;)
[12:29] <linuxR> my grub also runs painfully slow
[12:29] <coz_> Cedara,  ok  now check in jockey-gtk if that driver is listed now
[12:29] <DistroJockey> magikid: Nice one with the site conversion to pastebin :)
[12:29] <linuxR> when booting from harddisk
[12:30] <z0d> acicula: seems fine
[12:30] <Cedara> checking, coz_
[12:30] <magikid> DistroJockey: np
[12:30] <dhruvasagar> magikid: amazingly, Tomboy has a reminder plugin, I think that should be a simpler alternative
[12:30] <coz_> Cedara,  either way you are probably good to go,,, are you using ubuntu 11.04  and Unity or classic gnome?
[12:30] <Cedara> coz_ it's listed now, but not activated
[12:30] <acicula> z0d, yup
[12:30] <YankDownUnder> linuxR, ...and it's safe to assume you've dug through yer BIOS to make sure all the settings are correct and optimised and all that jazz, eh?
[12:30] <coz_> Cedara,   ok activate it
[12:30] <sdwef> Hello, $ sudo /etc/init.d/dansguardian start gives me following error - DansGuardian has not been configured! Please edit /etc/dansguardian/dansguardian.conf manually then rerun this script. What edition in required in the file? I've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DansGuardian
[12:31] <Cedara> coz_ using ubuntu 10.04
[12:31] <coz_> Cedara,  ah ok
[12:31] <nudb2> hi - could you tell me what "kill -HUP" does?
[12:31] <Cedara> activating
[12:31] <coz_> Cedara,  I have to break for a short period to time here  be back,, after activating it you Must  reboot,,yet  again
[12:31] <linuxR> YankDownUnder, I have reset everything to bios default values
[12:31] <Cedara> yes, it tells me to, coz_
[12:31] <Cedara> okay, coz_
[12:31] <allu2> Hello, how do i move launchers in unity?
[12:32] <linuxR> there is a bios upgrade available though...which requires me to install windows in order to apply it :(
[12:32] <magikid> dhruvasagar: awesome, one less thing to install
[12:32] <dhruvasagar> magikid: indeed
[12:32] <acicula> z0d, im thinking something went wrong with dkms prepping the driver but cant really find a solution yet
[12:33] <linuxR> could it be that ubuntu has some specially compiled grub and stuff that accesses system memory in a way other than usual?
[12:33] <linuxR> (not that I would have ever heard about something like that)
[12:33] <Cedara> okay, this sucks
[12:33] <Cedara> apparently this didn't fly
[12:33] <dyd> i've installed mdadm and set up 2 80gb hds to be in raid 1, then my OS hd broke, and now i would like to recover previous raid situation restoring data i had in the raid disk, is it possible?
[12:34] <allu2> or do i really have to remove every launcher and add them as i want them to be organized?
[12:34] <Cedara> coz_ that didn't fly, same problem as before
[12:34] <z0d> acicula: anyway I don't think Xorg should segfault
[12:34] <dli> dyd, yes, by the nature of raid1
[12:34]  * Cedara sighs
[12:35] <z0d> acicula: I'll look into post-inst and pre-inst scripts
[12:35] <acicula> z0d, it be nicer if it realizes the kernel driver is not ther
[12:35] <linuxR> I'm really going nuts..how hard can it be to put additional gb of mem into my box :(
[12:35] <tblambda> After installed ubuntu natty, my Lenovo G475 netbook hangs when LAN cable unplugged. Same problem as https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154523. Any solutions? Thanks!
[12:35] <acicula> !find flgrx
[12:35] <dli> linuxR, it's up to the mobo
[12:36] <acicula> !find fglrx
[12:36] <Cedara> Same problem as before, did what coz_ told me to: deinstalled the nvidia driver, reinstalled the proprietary one and it doesn't work when I activate it, I run in a low graphic mode
[12:36] <dli> linuxR, my old thinkpad only takes 3GB, while I can put a total of 4GB in
[12:36] <linuxR> dli, I find it hard to find an explanation for why it runs when booting from cd, does not run when booting from disk
[12:36] <dhruvasagar> magikid: I like this - http://alarm-clock.pseudoberries.com/, if you're interested
[12:36] <acicula> Z00la, try installing via apt-get install, then you can easily see if the dkms process finishes building the driver properly
[12:36] <dli> linuxR, did you do a memtest?
[12:36] <Cedara> is this one of the few cards that just doesn't work right under ubuntu 10.04?
[12:36] <linuxR> dli, yes, no errors
[12:37] <dli> linuxR, like no error for hours?
[12:37] <aquaboy11> i still get grub unknown filesystem error
[12:37] <sdwef> Hello, <sudo /etc/init.d/dansguardian start> gives me following error - DansGuardian has not been configured! Please edit /etc/dansguardian/dansguardian.conf manually then rerun this script. What edition is required to be made in the file? I've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DansGuardian
[12:38] <linuxR> dli, runs for a fair amount of time now, I think there would be an error if something was really wrong with the mem
[12:38] <Pici> sdwef: Did you comment the line that says UNCONFIGURED - Please remove this line after configuration ?
[12:38] <dli> linuxR, let it run a couple of hours to be sure. still explain what went wrong?
[12:39] <DistroJockey> sdwef: Did you remove the following?:   #UNCONFIGURED - Please remove this line after configuration
[12:39] <dli> linuxR, 'doesn't work' is a vague statement, please explain in detail about how, error messages, etc.
[12:40] <DistroJockey> Pici: beat me :)
[12:40] <sdwef> Pici: DistroJockey : My bad, I missed that line. Thanks a lot :-)
[12:40] <nudb2> I'm a sudoer on two servers and would like to compare the contents of every file in a direcotry /thisdirectory and subdirectories -- like an intensitve "diff".  I want to know if there is any difference in any of the files, or if there is a file that exists in one server but not the other.  Actually, one is an earlier snapshot made into a server, whereas the other continued... so, there should be absolutely no difference, I just want to make sure
[12:40] <nudb2> .  How would I do this?
[12:40] <linuxR> dli, when booting from the hard drive (freshly installed ubuntu 11.04), it runs extremely slow (about 20secs to load grub bootloader)
[12:40] <Rafal_0> hey
[12:40] <DistroJockey> sdwef: np as long as it helped :)
[12:40] <sdwef> Now, I've to find it failed starting DansGaurdian though
[12:40] <sdwef> why*
[12:41] <dli> linuxR, booting sequence problem?
[12:41] <Slart> nudb2: you could do a recursive md5sum, or crc32
[12:41] <dli> linuxR, set hard drive as the first device to boot
[12:41] <linuxR> dli, I did
[12:42] <dli> linuxR, does it run smoothly after grub loaded?
[12:42] <Pici> nudb2: dirdiff might be applicable too
[12:42] <linuxR> but its grub itself that runs so slow...when I press "e" to edit a grub line, this takes additional 20 seconds to open the edit screen
[12:42] <aquaboy11> fuuuuuuuuuuu
[12:42] <linuxR> dli, no, operating system runs equally slow
[12:42] <Cedara> me too, aquaboy11
[12:42] <aquaboy11> error: unknown filesystem
[12:43] <Rafal_0> bye
[12:43] <aquaboy11> grub rescue
[12:43] <aquaboy11> >
[12:43] <aquaboy11>  
[12:43] <Slart> nudb2: there's also a utility that's called cfv.. its in the repos
[12:43] <aquaboy11> >
[12:43] <Slart> !info cfv | nudb2
[12:43] <aquaboy11>  
[12:43] <FloodBot1> aquaboy11: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <dli> linuxR, how slow? elaborate
[12:43] <pharos> /part
[12:44] <linuxR> dli, so slow you can't work with it...some minutes to boot (insteal of 20 seconds), 20 seconds to start a terminal, 10 more seconds to get a prompt..
[12:44] <linuxR> when I remove one memory module (doesnt matter which one) it runs perfectly fast
[12:45] <sdwef> Pici: After commenting the line you suggested, it gave no previous errors but  - * Starting DansGuardian dansguardian    [fail] . Any thought?
[12:45] <aquaboy11> how do i change a drive letter in ubuntu
[12:45] <dli> linuxR, but the speed seems to be normal when running memtest?
[12:45] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11: I think this page is what you are needing to do:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
[12:45] <Pici> sdwef: Does dansguardian have a logfile that you can look at, it would be in /var/log/ somewhere.
[12:45] <linuxR> dli, that is a good question..don't know how fast memtest usually is..but it appeared normal to me
[12:46] <dli> linuxR, memtest prints out memory speed, cache speed, etc.
[12:46] <linuxR> oh okay..then maybe I should do a little comparison
[12:47] <linuxR> I wonder if there are different methods that linux/grub can access system memory
[12:47] <linuxR> will also try to install a different OS and see if that one runs okay
[12:47] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11: If you are not in the actual Windows that you have installed the drive letter you see is irrelevant.
[12:47] <dli> linuxR, also, try to rearrange order of memory modules, mismatching speed, or gap in address space?
[12:47] <sdwef> Pici: Yes, /var/log/dansguardian/access.log. But this log file is empty (0B)
[12:48] <linuxR> dli, I already physically switched memory modules, with no change in result
[12:48] <aquaboy11> my recovery disc says windows7 found on f:/
[12:48] <linuxR> also tried two entirely other modules, same behaviour
[12:49] <Autodidactite> ITM
[12:49] <nudb2>  so... I'm in server1 in /thedirectory .... what would I do to get rsync to get into server2 with my credentials, and to recursively copmare /thedirectory on that server with what's in the files in the subdirectory's of where I am with server1?  Sorry, I"m just a beginner at this stuff....  please note that Id on't want to update or change or copy any files!  I just want like a recursive "diff"....
[12:49] <aquaboy11> how do i use that .exe without windows
[12:49] <aetas> wine
[12:49] <aetas> and if that doesnt run it, then nothing
[12:49] <aquaboy11> ok
[12:50] <aetas> or install a windows VM
[12:50] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11, aetas: I would not run those tools with wine
[12:51] <aetas> he just asked what could run it
[12:51] <DistroJockey> aetas: true, but you've missed a bit of the convo I think :)
[12:52] <aetas> I grabbed the last 2 lines ;)
[12:52] <DistroJockey> lol ;p
[12:52] <aquaboy11> i cant use windows to run them because windows doesnt start
[12:52] <aetas> what are the tools for?
[12:52] <aetas> could be another way to get what you want without it
[12:52] <Pici> aquaboy11: Maybe you should be asking in a Windows support channel to help you get Windows running then.
[12:53] <DistroJockey> aquaboy11: You need a Windows installation disk. And yes, this is getting OT for here as Pici says
[12:53] <aquaboy11> they said i need to look here to fix it
[12:53] <derek> acidphase, distrojockey: metacity sorta worked, i can minimize and maximize my windows now, i just dont have a docking station for them
[12:54] <aetas> aquaboy11, just explain
[12:54] <DistroJockey> derek: Do you have a Panel?
[12:55] <derek> distrojockey: no
[12:55] <aquaboy11> i now removed grub in softwarecenter
[12:56] <DistroJockey> derek: Does running  gnome-panel  help?
[12:56] <Cedara> damn, coz_ hasn't returned
[12:57] <Autodidactite> Hello all, I recently install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and was not paying enough attention and click next with out agreeing to a License Agreement and so now I have reinstalled the package, uninstalled it and then reinstalled it and just now I tried to uninstall it with --purge and then reinstall it and still no prompt for a EULA for java
[12:58] <derek> distrojockey: i used to have panels, and a top menu bar, they helped me, still getting used to linux, but gnome-panel? is that a different program?
[12:58] <aquaboy11> im already 3 hours trying to fix it today
[13:00] <DistroJockey> derek: It's the non-Unity Gnome panels. Can you log out, click on your username and then choose Ubuntu Classic from the menu at the bottom of the screen?
[13:00] <ppetraki> Autodidactite, try dpkg-reconfigure <java package>
[13:00] <derek> distrojockey: not sure ill try it
[13:03] <kim_> high can some 1 please tell how to or where to solve no pubkey please
[13:03] <Pici> kim_: What is the exact error that you are getting?
[13:04] <DistroJockey> derek: How'd it go?
[13:04] <Autodidactite> Thanks ppetraki I was looking around for such a thing I vaguely remember such a command for when I was locked out of mysql after install because of a bug
[13:04] <derek> distrojockey: thank you so much, i have menu bars back
[13:04] <ppetraki> Autodidactite, worked?
[13:05] <Autodidactite> One moment
[13:05] <ionite> Can anyone help me?
[13:05] <derek> never really liked the unity launcher much anyways, much prefer this way
[13:05] <DistroJockey> derek: You're welcome :) You still have an issue with Compiz/Unity settings probably though
[13:05] <andrewsit> hi everyone i have a problem with tor under ubuntu 10.04 lts any ideas
[13:05] <Pici> ionite: you'll need to ask a question first
[13:05] <DistroJockey> derek: Same :)
[13:06] <Pici> !details | andrewsit
[13:06] <ionite> Why does the boot up screen freeze whenever I choose Install Ubuntu?  (I am booting from USB stick.  I tried Ubootnet, LiLi and md5sum.  All works fine)
[13:06] <kim_> hangs indefinatly and does not install updates and will not install new programs
[13:06] <andrewsit> not installed it's the problem my friend
[13:06] <derek> Distrojockey: well now that this works, i dont care to much about compiz/unity
[13:06] <Cedara> Geforce GT 520 doesn't work on ubuntu 10.04 it seems
[13:06] <derek> Distrojockey: Thanks Again
[13:07] <andrewsit> take alternatives please
[13:07] <shibin> hello
[13:07] <Cedara> anyone got an idea how to solve my problem?
[13:07] <Cedara> did what coz_ told me to, deinstalled the proprietary drivers and reinstalled them
[13:07] <derek> Acidphase: Thank you for all your help too
[13:07] <Cedara> after reboot they fail to load
[13:07] <Pici> !tor | andrewsit take a look at the info here
[13:07] <pindropper> i installed phpmyadmin by doing apt-get install phpmyadmin. it installed and everything. but when i point to mydomain/phpmyadmin it gives a 404. Do I have to do some additional configuration to access phpmyadmin?
[13:08] <iceroot> pindropper: there should be /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf where you enable the alias
[13:08] <Autodidactite> ppetraki, I don't know how to find out the name of the java package I am wanting to reconfigure
[13:09] <pindropper> iceroot: ok. thanks. looking now.
[13:09] <Autodidactite> I tied typing "java" and then hitting the tab key but nothing
[13:10] <ionite> Can anyone help me?
[13:10] <ionite> Why does the boot up screen freeze whenever I choose Install Ubuntu?  (I am booting from USB stick.  I tried Ubootnet, LiLi and md5sum.  All works fine)
[13:10] <Autodidactite> ionite, no anyone can't help you
[13:10] <pindropper> iceroot: i am looking at the file in question. it has an alias directive /phpmyadmin pointing to /usr/share/phpyadmin. What should i change this to? or...?
[13:11] <andrewsit> bad information  my friend this website suck i was look this lasted
[13:11] <ppetraki> Cedara, I take it you're running the latest set of nvidia drivers? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-270.41.06-driver.html
[13:11] <Autodidactite> But it you ask your question some might be able to
[13:11] <AFD> can someone help me troubleshoot my LTSP setup?
[13:11] <aetas> ionite, can you give any more info?  what else does it do?
[13:11] <iceroot> pindropper: is it comment out?
[13:11] <andrewsit> thanks for you help
[13:11] <iceroot> pindropper: starting with #
[13:11] <andrewsit> any knows
[13:11] <pindropper> iceroot: no . its not.
[13:11] <AFD> I get the error on clients at boot "failed to connect to NBD server"
[13:11] <Cedara> ppetraki : I think so but i'm not sure
[13:11] <iceroot> pindropper: restarted apache so that apache is reading the new config?
[13:11] <ionite> aetas: It just freezed at the screen after i hit enter: Install Ubuntu
[13:11] <Cedara> Installed current
[13:12] <pindropper> iceroot: i did. i restarted.
[13:12] <DistroJockey> ionite: What sort of system are you running on?
[13:12] <aetas> ionite, immediately?  does it try loading first?
[13:12] <AFD> I've rebuilt the ltsp, update sshkeys and build client...
[13:12] <ionite> Windows XP Pro
[13:12] <DistroJockey> ionite: 32bit or 64bit?
[13:12] <ionite> 32 bit
[13:12] <ppetraki> Autodidactite, there's a log of all your dpkg activity in /var/log, you can use that to narrow it down. Or if you're feeling drastic, pass -a to dpkg-reconfigure, which will prompt for a system wide reconfigure
[13:12] <iceroot> pindropper: where want apache to lookup for http://host/phpmyadmin?
[13:12] <Cedara> ppetraki : I did as was told installed the proprietary drivers and started them but they failed to load when rebooting
[13:12] <pindropper> iceroot: yes.
[13:12] <DistroJockey> ionite: Hardware wise. And what Ubuntu image are you trying to boot?
[13:12] <ionite> previously i got a problem with vesamenu 32 and now it just freezed @ the installation boot menu screen.
[13:13] <ionite> com32rimage
[13:13] <pindropper> iceroot: it should look at mydomain/phpmyadmin
[13:13] <Cedara> ppektraki : "nvidia: Failed to load the nvidia kernel module. Please check your system's kernel log for additional error messages. Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specific error, 0). No drivers available."
[13:13] <Pici> pindropper, iceroot; You'll need to make sure that theres a symlink in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ that points to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[13:13] <iceroot> pindropper: that was not a "yes/no question
[13:13] <Autodidactite> ppetraki, Wow that -a option could be interesting to run
[13:13] <pindropper> iceroot: sorry. i dont understand what you are asking.
[13:13] <iceroot> Pici: i thought the installer is creating that automaticly
[13:13] <Autodidactite> I get the feeling that I could be here a while though
[13:14] <Pici> iceroot: I've seen it not do that in the past for me :/
[13:14] <iceroot> Pici: ah ok
[13:14] <gaurav_natty> i have .bin file of eclipse while running in terminal its shows me error there is no application installed for this
[13:14] <andrewsit> i wanna have cpu frecuence performace ever ,how have it?
[13:14] <andrewsit> help me
[13:15] <aetas> andrewjames, can you rephrase that a bit so that it makes sense?
[13:15] <ionite> anyone know why my screen freezed @ boot menu screen?
[13:15] <pindropper> iceroot: ... sorry can you rephrase.
[13:15] <aetas> oops
[13:15] <aetas> andrewsit, that was for you rather
[13:15] <ppetraki> Cedara, sounds like it failed to compile, what does dpkg -l | grep nvidia show? you should see something like "nvidia-185"
[13:15] <Cedara> I uninstalled it for now, lemme reinstall and see what I get
[13:15] <gaurav_natty> i have .bin file of eclipse while running in terminal its shows me error there is no application installed for this .how i change the permission for that eclipse .bin file its always shows me permission denied
[13:15] <Autodidactite> I get the feeling that I could be here a while though
[13:17] <andrewsit> i wanna have cpu frecuence performace ever ,how have it?
[13:17] <andrewsit> help me plese
[13:17] <ionite> anyone know why my screen freezed @ boot menu screen?
[13:17] <Cedara> ppektraki: I fail to remember the command I was told
[13:17] <kim_> i have the failed to download the repostory info in the paste bin
[13:17] <Pici> andrewsit: Its hard to understand your question, maybe #ubuntu-es (español) could be more helpful.
[13:18] <Pici> kim_: You need to give us the pastebin url.
[13:18] <andrewsit> i am  new in ubuntu (a day) please
[13:18] <ppetraki> Cedara, history | grep apt-get
[13:18] <Kuwanger> I'm seeing an odd issue with a few SDL programs.  So long as they're not visible, Xorg usage is reasonable.  The second they're visible, Xorg usage shoots up dramatically and they tend to have sound skipping.
[13:18] <andrewsit> i am not espaniol
[13:18] <magikid> gaurav_natty: if I understand correctly, in a terminal run the command (without quotes) "chmod +x eclipse.bin"
[13:18] <andrewsit> i live in barcelona ,but i am english
[13:19] <andrewsit> wtf
[13:19] <kim_> sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/651751/
[13:19] <andrewsit> fuck stupid look ip privacy
[13:19] <Pici> andrewsit: Please no cursing here.
[13:19] <andrewsit> retard
[13:19] <andrewsit> bye
[13:20] <Autodidactite> Say is there any good scripts out there for servicing and repairing Ubuntu?
[13:20] <ionite> anyone know why my screen freezed @ boot menu screen?
[13:21] <dumbo88> sounds like a device error ... maybe usb
[13:21] <zex> salve
[13:21] <ppetraki> ionite, could be anything, from buggy bios to unsupported video card
[13:21] <zex> hi
[13:21] <Cedara> ppetraki ok, installed
[13:22] <Cedara> what did you want to know?
[13:22] <ppetraki> ionite, more details would be helpful, make, model, ubuntu version
[13:22] <ppetraki> Cedara, what version is it?
[13:22] <Cedara> how do I check that?
[13:22] <Xotix> hi
[13:22] <ionite> ubuntu 11.04. previously i had a problem of vesamenu 32. now it's fine. just that it freezes at initial start up.
[13:23] <Cedara> via jockey-gtk?
[13:24] <Xotix> i have a cronjob like 0 0  * * * so, everyday at 0:0, right? it worked okaythe first one/two days, but know it doesnt work anymore. the script runs without a bug and error log doesnt show anything. what can i check? the cronjob itself is correct, isnt it?
[13:24] <GeekMan122> hey im trying to change the group read write premissions for a samba directory how should i do this so all the folders and files within the folder are set to the same group permissons to read and write?
[13:24] <Cedara> ppetraki how do I check that?
[13:24] <piciretard> hello
[13:24] <kim_> did i do some thing wrong
[13:24] <alex--> WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! - DON'T PANIC! Read http://www.clamav.net/support/faq
[13:24] <alex--> I read the faq, but I dont know how to make it in-datet
[13:24] <alex--> dated *
[13:25] <Autodidactite> Say how do you quickly clear your desktop in Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity?
[13:25] <ppetraki> Cedara, dpkg -l |  grep nvidia
[13:25] <iceroot> alex--: why you need that?
[13:25] <alex--> idk
[13:25] <alex--> why not?
[13:25] <lion42> ...av? what?
[13:25] <iceroot> alex--: reread the faq
[13:25] <alex--> antivirus
[13:25] <piciretard> hello :)
[13:25] <lion42> ...??
[13:25] <iceroot> alex--: antivirus for what?
[13:25] <GeekMan122> alex i too would like to know this
[13:25] <alex--> for my server
[13:25] <shibin> try the special key + d to clear the desktop
[13:25] <iceroot> alex--: samba/mailserver?
[13:26] <engineerone> :)
[13:26] <alex--> yes
[13:26] <Autodidactite> Thanks shibin, perfect!
[13:26] <alex--> but why iceroot ?
[13:26] <Autodidactite> I am used o compiz
[13:26] <iceroot> alex--: you dont need the newest version of the virus-scanner. important is the newest version of the virus-database
[13:26] <aquaboy11_> http://pastebin.com/hZDdckdc
[13:26] <alex--> how can I update it?
[13:26] <aquaboy11_> what can i do with http://pastebin.com/hZDdckdc
[13:26] <Cedara> ppetraki that gave me a lot of stuff  - I see nvidia-173
[13:27] <GeekMan122> freshclam
[13:27] <iceroot> alex--: for linux-hosts there is no reason for a virus-scanner only when interacting with windows-clients
[13:27] <rly> Also: virus scanners are completely worthless.
[13:27] <rly> Even on Windows.
[13:27] <iceroot> rly: no
[13:27] <iceroot> rly: e.g. on a mail-server
[13:27] <Cedara> ppetraki : ii  nvidia-current                                           195.36.24-0ubuntu1~10.04
[13:27] <rly> It is completely trivial to defeat a virus scanner.
[13:27] <alex--> iceroot: when someone puts a virus on it
[13:27] <GeekMan122> alex sudo freshclam
[13:27] <alex--> or sends me through email
[13:27] <alex--> I want to keep the server to take care of
[13:27] <alex--> not my home pc
[13:28] <ionite> Ubuntu 11.04 natty seems so unstable when it freezes at dos boot installtion menu.
[13:28] <iceroot> alex--: that is the correct way when there are windows-clients
[13:28] <rly> ionite: that is your hardware.
[13:28] <alex--> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/yYNgXige
[13:28] <rly> ionite: with a 99.9% probability.
[13:28] <ionite> so what should i do? my HW is not gd enough?
[13:28] <ionite> or?
[13:29] <Cedara> ppektraki : I don't want to paste it all here, since that doesn't seem to be proper
[13:29] <iceroot> alex--: everything is fine
[13:29] <alex--> why does it says then?
[13:29] <rly> ionite: first try to boot some other system (Windows/other Linux/other media).
[13:29] <iceroot> alex--: DON'T PANIC! Read http://www.clamav.net/support/faq
[13:29] <GeekMan122> alex i run my clam on a cron
[13:29] <ionite> booting windows XP pro is perfectly fine.
[13:29] <ppetraki> Cedara, use pastebin http://pastebin.com/
[13:29] <alex--> iceroot: i already read
[13:30] <rly> ionite: so, then what does it say?
[13:30] <rly> ionite: there is no dos boot installation menu.
[13:30] <rly> ionite: unless you mean GRUB.
[13:30] <ionite> i booted from USB
[13:30] <iceroot> alex--: http://www.clamav.net/lang/de/support/faq/faq-upgrade/
[13:30] <GeekMan122> anyways..... hey im trying to change the group read write premissions for a samba directory how should i do this so all the folders and files within the folder are set to the same group permissons to read and write?
[13:30] <rly> ionite: and what does it say?
[13:31] <ionite> install menu appears and i selects Install Ubuntu and it just freezed there after i hit enter
[13:31] <Cedara> ppetraki : here - > http://pastebin.com/D0BWpuAJ
[13:31] <lion42> ionite: try 'run ubuntu from this disc' or whatever
[13:32] <pindropper> Kartagis: hi again. Ok so I did as was described on the page and it worked. i now have php 5.2 installed and it works perfectly. But I am trying to install phpmyadmin and it says it depends on php5-mycrypt which when i try to install says it depends on some php-cgi... which when i try to install it says its an abstract package that is provided by some php 5.3 packages. what to do?
[13:32] <Cedara> ppetraki : I haven't rebooted yet after install though
[13:32] <ionite> i checked on Google, many others seems to have this problem as mine.  They got freezed after hitting enter @ the installation screen while booting from USB.
[13:33] <kora-chan> Hi, I'm running 11.04 and noticed two strange behaviours,... maybe someone know how to fix this. both seem to be related to my intel hd 3000 graphics chip. when using an external monitor i noticed significant devrease in performance also compiz goes up to fully occupying one of my cores when i move around windows. i disabled wait for vsync in compiz settings manager, this seemed to have no big effect, its still sort o
[13:33] <Kartagis> pindropper: get the tarball of phpmyadmin
[13:33] <rly> kora-chan: compiz is made by losers.
[13:33] <Kartagis> pindropper: www.phpmyadmin.net
[13:33] <rly> kora-chan: so, get rid of that first.
[13:33] <ppetraki> ionite, nvidia-current seems to be pointing to 195.36.15-0ubuntu2 from 10.04
[13:33] <ppetraki> ionite, this webpage http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-270.41.06-driver.html, says  support for the GeForce GT 520 was just added as of r270
[13:33] <ppetraki> ionite, whoops, wrong user
[13:33] <ppetraki> Cedara, ^^^
[13:33] <ppetraki> Cedara, so your driver simply isn't new enough.
[13:33] <Cedara> huh
[13:33] <kora-chan> rly: isnt unity using this by default?
[13:33] <GeekMan122> what should i use i think one time before i used chmod but yesterday i used chgrp -r "group" /srv/samba/dir/dir and it crashed lost all my authentification files all of them it was wierd
[13:33] <Cedara> ppetraki that easy?
[13:34] <pindropper> Kartagis: ok. then install manually? never done it. ok lemme try.
[13:34] <ionite> i checked on Google, many others seems to have this problem as mine.  They got freezed after hitting enter @ the installation screen while booting from USB.
[13:34] <okbin> te
[13:34] <Cedara> ppetraki : what should I do?
[13:34] <alex--> I found that my mailserver wants to send an email to someone I dont know, how can I find out who send it?
[13:34] <ppetraki> Cedara, yup :)
[13:34] <kora-chan> rly: any way to get around using compiz?
[13:34] <okbin> hi
[13:34] <Kartagis> pindropper: all you have to is (I've done it) extract it under /var/www
[13:34] <okbin> hi
[13:34] <ppetraki> Cedara, so uninstall the one you just did, and take it from the website instead
[13:34] <pindropper> Kartagis: thats it?
[13:35] <ppetraki> Cedara, we don't appear to have packaged 270 yet
[13:35] <Kartagis> pindropper: I've done that
[13:35] <ppetraki> Cedara, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/
[13:35] <pindropper> Kartagis: ok. lemme try.
[13:35] <Cedara> wait, ppetraki how do I do that?
[13:35] <ppetraki> Cedara, only goes up to 180
[13:35] <Cedara> No used to manually installing
[13:35] <Kartagis> pindropper: then log on with your mysql root
[13:35] <rly> kora-chan: just disable the pretty effects to 'normal settings'.
[13:35] <pindropper> Kartagis: ok.
[13:35] <xangua> rly: unity depends on compiz
[13:35] <ppetraki> Cedara, it has directions, should just be chmod +x <file> ; ./file
[13:36] <engineerone> chmod +x all :)
[13:36] <Cedara> the run file, ppetraki?
[13:36] <xangua> rly: kora-chan not really useful coments
[13:36] <pindropper> Kartagis: /var/www would be where my public_html is right? because i have my site configured to run from /srv/www/mysite/ should i put it there?
[13:36] <xangua> !clasic | butyou could try the classic desktop
[13:36] <engineerone> remote chmod +x :9
[13:36] <Squarism> Is a final IETF specification called a RFC.. i get confused about a RFC as beeing final as it stands for Request For Comments?
[13:36] <ppetraki> Cedara, yup
[13:36] <engineerone> :)
[13:37] <xangua> !classic | kora-chan
[13:37] <Cedara> how do I run that run file and where do I put it, ppetraki ?
[13:37] <diverdude> hello, what is the package called which i need to use java applications in firefox?
[13:37] <Kartagis> pindropper: put it under /srv/www/mysite then, /var/www/ is default
[13:37] <ppetraki> Cedara, put a "./" infront of the file name and press enter
[13:37] <xangua> !java | diverdude
[13:37] <pindropper> Kartagis: ok. just being sure. thanks.
[13:38] <Kartagis> np pindropper
[13:38] <Cedara> okay, ppetraki
[13:38] <Cedara> will uninstall the old one first
[13:38] <ppetraki> Cedara, so chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run && ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run
[13:38] <kora-chan> xangua: thx i know how i can switch back to regular gnome, i'm using xfce right now, but it seemed to be a deeper driver related problem with the performance thought maybe someone knew a way to grab the problem on its roots
[13:38] <ppetraki> Cedara, good
[13:39] <GeekMan122> chmod g+w file         (Give write permission to the group)  where do i insert the group name on this
[13:39] <xangua> kora-chan: well i don't have any problems with y intel drivers so i am not much helpful :S
[13:39] <Cedara> okay, quick help needed, how do I deinstall it if I hadn't activated it - (Not used to command line stuff)
[13:40] <diverdude> why did they remove the sun-java6 packages from the multiverse???
[13:40] <kora-chan> xangua: no worries thanks anyway ;)
[13:40] <ppetraki> Cedara, apt-get remove nvidia-current
[13:40] <Cedara> thanks
[13:41] <GeekMan122> nvm
[13:41] <Cedara> only current, ppetraki?
[13:41] <ppetraki> Cedara, it should uninstall the rest, if not, just follow up
[13:42] <Cedara> says no proprietary drivers as I checked with jockey-gtk
[13:42] <Cedara> that ok?
[13:42] <Cedara> could you pastebin that command for me, ppetraki?
[13:43] <ppetraki> Cedara, http://pastebin.com/AazkjRrG
[13:44] <Cedara> ppetraki : no the other one
[13:44] <Cedara> the one with chmod
[13:44] <Cedara> thank you kindly
[13:44] <ppetraki> Cedara, "chmod +x"
[13:44] <ppetraki> Cedara, with the thing you downloaded from nvidia.com as the target
[13:44] <GOMI> just found out that gmail ask you phonenumber for activation ?!?!  o_O)  no privacy these days !!!
[13:46] <Cedara> ppetraki  just chmod +x filename ?
[13:46] <diverdude> i followed this tutorial : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Sun%20Java%20moved%20to%20the%20Partner%20repository and installed the "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner" java jre on my 11.04 but it still does not work. am i missing something?
[13:46] <ppetraki> Cedara, yup, don't worry, its not destructive
[13:46] <Cedara> lol
[13:46] <Cedara> ppetraki : not the firmest on command lines me, so I wanna make sure I do the right thing
[13:47] <pentarex> hey guys can anyone tell me how I can configure my network properly, if I try to set it iface eth0 inet static with address and netmask is not working, if I try with iface eth0 inet dhcp it says ¨NO DHCPOFFERS¨
[13:47] <Evanescence> I installed flashplugin-nonfree, still can not watch flash videos.
[13:47] <Evanescence> my ubuntu is 11.10
[13:47] <zykotick9> diverdude, "sudo apt-get update"?
[13:47] <zykotick9> Evanescence, did you restart your browser (all of them?)
[13:48] <xangua> Evanescence: 11.10 is not supported here
[13:48] <Evanescence> zykotick9: yes, all
[13:48] <ppetraki> Cedara, ... we appear to have packaged 270 for Natty, you're not seeing it because you're running lucid
[13:48] <Evanescence> xangua: oh...
[13:48] <Cedara> ppetraki I was wondering why nothing happened
[13:48] <acicula> z0d, did you get anything from the dkms log?
[13:48] <Cedara> lol
[13:48] <zykotick9> xangua, oh good catch, 11.10 right in front of me and I didn't see it
[13:48] <xangua> !ubuntu+1 | Evanescence zykotick9
[13:48] <diverdude> zykotick9, i did that
[13:48] <xangua> Evanescence: or use a stable versio of ubuntu, ubuntu.com
[13:49] <tzhuang> hello
[13:49] <zykotick9> diverdude, "apt-cache search sun-java" does it show anything?
[13:49] <Evanescence> xangua: go to ubuntu+1
[13:49] <tzhuang> is sudo shutdown safe to use a replacement for the gui shudown method
[13:49] <diverdude> zykotick9, its working now...had to restart browser
[13:49] <edbian> tzhuang: yep
[13:50] <tzhuang> edbian: it's just that the shutdown had some problems the last few times and i've been using the command from term
[13:50] <tzhuang> edbian: so i was just wondering if it was because of that, or something else
[13:51] <edbian> tzhuang: The shutdown command is the proper way to shutdown from the term.  What problems have you been having?
[13:51] <zykotick9> tzhuang, i'm sure the GUI is just a frontend to that shutdown command
[13:53] <norpan111> Would someone help me install ubuntu 11.04? I was downlading it into my USB with usb creaton tool. When i boot i get some errors about my CPU, and hardware error (reboot in 30seconds) And when i try to run wubi for installing like "a windows application" it does exactly the same. Im running an i7. If someone does know about this issue. Please PM me as im cooking dinner and wont see that you have responded to this =) . thanks
[13:54] <tzhuang> zykotick9: thx for the help guys =) cheers
[13:54] <linux> a
[14:01] <Zorgsen> Hi all
[14:01] <alex--> hi Zorg
[14:01] <alex--> Zorgsen *
[14:01] <Zorgsen> How do I go about getting flashplayer to work in Ubuntu
[14:01] <Zorgsen> ?
[14:02] <alex--> Zorgsen: install ubuntu restricted extra's
[14:02] <Zorgsen> From where?
[14:02] <alex--> software center?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:03] <Infernet> Zorgsen: just type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:03] <CraHan> since the latest updates I've seen perl  locale erorrs
[14:03] <ionite> Natty - why does my installation screen freezes whenever I choose Install Ubuntu?
[14:03] <xangua> alex--: sudo apt-get installl ubuntu-rectricted-extras
[14:03] <xangua> or to just install adobe flash plugin: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:04] <Zorgsen> Found it, it's installing will flash work directly or do I have to download from adobe later on?
[14:04] <CraHan> LC_CTYPE = "UTF-8" does not seem correct
[14:04] <CraHan> that should most likely be en_us.UTF-8
[14:04] <alex--> Zorgsen: install ubuntu restricted extra's, flash will work after that, no further install required
[14:04] <Zorgsen> Gooodie, thanks
[14:04] <CraHan> but even with a freshubuntu 10.04 install it's set that way and it makes perl error
[14:04] <j3roth> ionite - have you tried the alternate install disk?
[14:05] <ionite> j3roth: what is alternate install?
[14:05] <ionite> !j3roth: what is alternate install?
[14:05] <j3roth> ionite - on older systems you need to use the alternate install .iso It is a non-graphical ubuntu install wizard
[14:05] <iceroot> !alternate | ionite
[14:05] <j3roth> Thanks ubottu
[14:06] <iceroot> ionite: alternate also providing lvm, disc encrypting and software-raid at installation
[14:06] <ionite> iceroot: what do u mean?
[14:06] <iceroot> ionite: you asked what alternate is, i told you
[14:06] <j3roth> ionite: it supports more advanced features on install.
[14:06] <RhinoTMT> help needed please - trying to update grub. Have an error saying - cannot stat 'aufs' - any ideas?
[14:07] <ionite> which means the original ISO i d/l is useless and I need to d/l another ISO again?
[14:07] <iceroot> ionite: depending what you want to do
[14:08] <ionite> I'll try the alternate install
[14:09] <aetas> ack....whose msg did I miss
[14:10] <ionite> so do i need to boot a USB using alternate install?
[14:10] <aetas> think it was in here
[14:10] <aetas> ionite, what are you trying to do?
[14:10] <ionite> since the normal natty ISO can't work
[14:11] <ionite> i'm trying to install using alternate installation.
[14:11] <aetas> cant work for what?
[14:11] <jurassicor> join #ubuntu-cn
[14:11] <jurassicor> JOIN ubuntu-cn
[14:11] <ionite> aetas: what's alternate install? any difference from the origianl ISO?
[14:12] <edbian> jurassicor:  it's /join #whatever
[14:12] <aetas> ionite, I need to know what reason the original doesn't work if I can tell if that one is a better option
[14:12] <ionite> the original frozed @ the boot up screen when i hite enter to install ubuntu
[14:13] <zykotick9> ionite, alt is text based install, with more hardware support
[14:13] <iceroot> zykotick9: its the same hardware-support
[14:13] <ionite> so basicall both is the same just that installation method is different?
[14:14] <iceroot> ionite: both will get the same software-result at the end but with the alternate you have more options
[14:14] <zykotick9> iceroot, not according to the !alternate factoid
[14:14] <zykotick9> !alternate
[14:14] <alex--> !minimal
[14:14] <iceroot> zykotick9: its using the same kernel
[14:14] <zykotick9> iceroot, still different hardware support - RAID and such
[14:14] <iceroot> zykotick9: the "more hardware" is fakeraid
[14:15] <iceroot> zykotick9: which is software-raid
[14:15] <iceroot> zykotick9: so the factoid is not very good
[14:15] <CraHan> I've never seen a locale called UTF-8 on all my other ubuntu installs
[14:15] <CraHan> mostly is should be language.UTF-8
[14:15] <CraHan> annoying
[14:15] <ionite> so the reason why it frozed @ boot menu is because my hardware cannot support?
[14:16] <norpan111> Would someone help me install ubuntu 11.04? I was downlading it into my USB with usb creaton tool. When i boot i get some errors about my CPU, and hardware error (reboot in 30seconds) And when i try to run wubi for installing like "a windows application" it does exactly the same. Im running an i7. If someone does know about this issue? Alternative USB? is there more compability with alternative versions?
[14:16] <ionite> Text based installation is it the same like booting from USB? Do I need to boot from USB or I can do it from DOS mode?
[14:17] <iceroot> ionite: you are mixing stuff
[14:17] <Almindor> hell
[14:17] <Almindor> hello even :)
[14:17] <ionite> Ice Root: Text based installation still boots from USB or?
[14:18] <norpan111> I really should not have TO new hardware, im running i7 920
[14:18] <Almindor> is there a way to tell unity/gnome WM I want to switch workspaces from within an application?
[14:18] <norpan111> but its saying hardware error
[14:18] <iceroot> ionite: usb boot has nothing to do with text install or other things. its just like your usb-stick is your cd. you can put everything on the stick. ubuntu desktop, ubuntu alternate, ubuntu minimal, debian stable and so on
[14:18] <Almindor> via dbus or somesuch
[14:18] <ionite> alright
[14:19] <edbian> Almindor: From within an application?  There are keybindings (like ctrl + alt + left arrow) that work regardless of what app has focus.
[14:19] <Almindor> edbian, not with fullscreen X apps like SDL/fullscreen
[14:19] <norpan111> Ubuntu 11.04 throws me a hardware error when trying to boot LiveUSB, i thinks it says something about CPU also. im running  a i7 920
[14:20] <edbian> Almindor: SDL ?
[14:20] <norpan111> Also same thing when installing ubuntu as application. wont boot
[14:20] <z0d> acicula: I'll investigate it a bit later
[14:20] <Almindor> edbian, Simple Directmedia Layer (sort of DirectX/without 3d of Linux) used by most games etc.
[14:20] <ionite> iceroot: how do i use minimal install? Unetbootin?
[14:20] <scottie> JSS
[14:20] <edbian> Almindor: a-ha  I don't think so then :(
[14:20] <iceroot> ionite: as every other image
[14:21] <iceroot> ionite: there is no difference what image you choose
[14:21] <edbian> Almindor: Perhaps it's changing and you can't see the change.
[14:21] <Almindor> the problem is that SDL "fullscreen" is true fullscreen via X request, not just a "fake maximize" and so the WM is completely "off the hook"
[14:21] <edbian> Almindor: :(
[14:21] <ionite> iceroot: what's the difference between minimal and alternate installation?
[14:21] <Almindor> I wanted to at least fake default keybindings (perhaps find out current ones) and tell the WM manually
[14:21] <norpan111> Im running Gigabyte p55A-ud4 with i7 920  8gb ram, one ssd disk with my windows 7 installation and one other hdd .
[14:21] <edbian> Almindor: Sounds like you know more than I do
[14:22] <iceroot> !alternate | ionite
[14:22] <iceroot> !minimal | ionite
[14:22] <edbian> Almindor: I think wmctrl will let you change workspaces via term commands
[14:22] <lenshark> hi guys
[14:22] <debd> hi
[14:23] <lenshark> if you accidentally deleted some files in the / ... is there a way to find out who did it ? on the logs perhaps ?
[14:24] <sje46> hey my friend is trying to install ubuntu 10.04, but there is no option to install ubuntu alongside windows, even thugh she has windows installed
[14:24] <damno_> lenshark: to dlt something from / u'll need root permisions
[14:24] <edbian> lenshark: You can see who sudo'd recently.  in /var/log/auth.log
[14:24] <edbian> lenshark: There is not a log of every file read / write / delete
[14:24] <damno_> lenshark: so those should be logged in the Auth.0 log
[14:24] <Hachya> member:sje46: is there space available on the HDD?
[14:24] <edbian> sje46: Manually partition it :)
[14:25] <Hachya> specifically "free space"
[14:25] <norpan111> Hello guys, im running into some issues while installing ubuntu 11.04 from USB. im getting at the grub menu and tries to launch live-mode but fails with hardware error. Same if i install Wubi as a windows application. Im running windows 7 with i7 870 and motherboard gigabyte p55a-ud4 and two GTX 460. Shouldnt my CPU be supported? I never had this issue before
[14:25] <CraHan> so does anyone have any ideas why ubuntu 10.04 set LC_CTYPE to UTF-8?
[14:25] <CraHan> a locale which doesn't exist and can't be generated?
[14:25] <sje46> edbian: but there should be an option to install ubuntu alongside windows
[14:25] <Infernet> sje46: the Natty/11.04 is out
[14:25] <sje46> why isnt there that option?
[14:26] <edbian> sje46: yes
[14:26] <edbian> sje46: IDK
[14:26] <sje46> She has the 10.04 disk, not natty
[14:26] <Hachya> member:sje46: well, if there isn't space, then they need to resize their windows partition
[14:26] <sje46> i wouldnt wish nattty on my worst enemy
[14:26] <aetas> norpan111, giving the error would help
[14:26] <sje46> Hachya: is it that there isnt space?
[14:26] <Hachya> member:sje46: I don't know, I am asking YOU
[14:26] <Hachya> sje46: they need to check first
[14:26] <sje46> Hachya: and I'm asking you if that's a valid reason why that option wouldn't appear
[14:26] <norpan111> aetas, dont know the exact numbers since there is alot of them. but its saying something about CPU and just "hardware error " and a bunch of numbers
[14:27] <sipior> CraHan: you mean the string literal "UTF-8", not en_US.utf8?
[14:27] <Hachya> sje46: yes it could be
[14:27] <CraHan> sipior: yes
[14:27] <norpan111> aetas, and then it ends with "reboots in 30 sec"
[14:27] <CraHan> it should be en_US.UTF-8
[14:27] <sje46> Hachya: would shrinking the hard disk solve that problem? =/
[14:27] <lenshark> hmm. i logged in to the server via winscp, i was in a windows machine. then i did "rm -rf /*" accidentally ... somehow i was able to stop the operation. but then afterwards, i can no longer do any commands line "ls, reboot, etc...."
[14:27] <Hachya> shje46: in the install process, it should ask about erasing the WHOLE disk, or just using a portion
[14:27] <norpan111> Its U11.04 64bit im trying to install
[14:27] <CraHan> sipior: but when installing a fresh server install of 10.04 LTS it gets set to UTF-8 and not en_US.UTF-8
[14:27] <CraHan> which strikes me as weird
[14:27] <sipior> CraHan: it's possible it is an alias.
[14:28] <Hachya> sje46: well, shrinking the Windows partition
[14:28] <CraHan> sipior: but shouldn't localegen UTF-8 work then?
[14:28] <damno_> lenshark: wow ! you do "rm -rf /" "accidentally" ?!
[14:28] <sje46> Hachya: yeah, shrinking the windows partition
[14:28] <CraHan> or at least LC_CTYPE=UTF-8 be recognized by the system?
[14:28] <sje46> is that even possible?
[14:28] <Hachya> sje46: that will allow free space to install in the free open, unused space
[14:28] <iceroot> lenshark: insert your backup
[14:28] <lenshark> damno_, .... yeah :( it was meant to be rm *
[14:29] <Hachya> sje46: which will be an option when the installer asks about where to install, and what disk, etc
[14:29] <Hachya> sje46: so try that
[14:29] <Aethelred> Greetings.  I need to get a USB wireless ethernet adapter for a new 11.04 install. I'd like either recommendations for specific hardware, or a link to a list of hardware for which drivers exist.
[14:29] <CraHan> sipior: /var/lib/locales/supported.d/en does set it as an alias for a number of locales
[14:29] <sje46> Hachya: that isn't an option either
[14:29] <iceroot> !hardware | Aethelred
[14:29] <sje46> theres only two options...erase windows, or install manually
[14:29] <CraHan> sipior: but I can only get the error to go away when I set LC_CTYPE to en_US.UTF-8 for example
[14:29] <Hachya> sje46: has to be, there isn't a cscreen during install that asks about partitioning?
[14:29] <damno_> lenshark: you have some sort of backup of ur /  ?
[14:30] <sipior> CraHan: which error?
[14:30] <Aethelred> iceroot: thanks. I'll hit that link.  Everyone else: I'm still open to specific suggestions.
[14:30] <CraHan> sipior: "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." which happens with apt-get updates
[14:30] <prix> what can i do if the touchpad'scroll its over on my notebook ??
[14:30] <lenshark> yeah.. but how ? i can no longer do anything.. and i can't logged back in via winscp...
[14:30] <norpan111> Im not even getting to the bootlogo, all i see is text. and then bunch of hardware error messages and then reboot
[14:31] <sipior> CraHan: i think someone would have noticed if that happened out of the box :-)
[14:31] <CraHan> sipior: http://pastebin.com/ULW3Rw7g
[14:31] <norpan111> I tought my system really good handle ubuntu with an ease
[14:31] <damno_> lenshark: that maybe bcoz of vital files are deleted
[14:31] <lenshark> my last option would be just to reinstall the os
[14:31] <CraHan> fresh ubuntu install, started during my first run of apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:31] <keldtin> .
[14:31] <lenshark> yeah. :X now i just want my boss to not find out it was me
[14:32] <BajK> is there a noticeable speed difference between sftp and http? I downloaded my file from my pc to the other via acpache and got 11,2MB/s transfer rate, now I copy something over using sftp and I get 5,2 max
[14:32] <lenshark> else i'm dead
[14:32] <sje46> Hachya: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WnyhpK6VYuU/TH7b3H9xvZI/AAAAAAAAAX0/KF4q3NHoxEg/s1600/ubuntu-install4.png  it only has erase and use teh full disk, and specify partitions manually
[14:32] <damno_> lenshark: i'll tell u to backup ur home and reinstall :/  if you cant get anything out of backup
[14:32] <sipior> BajK: i think you just answered your question :-)
[14:32] <damno_> lenshark: or maybe you can restore the back up login into a live session
[14:32] <BajK> sipior: dunno, the http copy was windows 7, this is linux now.
[14:32] <damno_> lenshark: that'll atleast let you use the commands
[14:32] <BajK> so, sftp is really that slow ?
[14:32] <BajK> hm
[14:33] <strata> BajK: try the hpn patch.
[14:33] <BajK> hpn patch?
[14:33] <BajK> (but dont think I can upload 12 GB using http post :D)
[14:33] <keldtin> ls
[14:33] <strata> BajK: yes. it is a high performance patch for ssh.
[14:33] <BajK> strata: ah, got it, thanks :)
[14:33] <vega-> BajK: ssh has encryption overhead ..
[14:34] <lenshark> okay i will look that up... so.. is my ip going to be registered in the logs doing the "rm -rf" ?
[14:34] <dontaltf4mebro> Hello, i am trying to build a parallel mono runtime from source into /opt/mono . if I want to uninstall the said runtime for some reason, do I need to do more than simply deleting /opt/mono folder?
[14:34] <strata> vega-: not as bad as you would think. it depends on the hardware it's running on.
[14:34] <Hachya> sje46: yeah, you need to first resize windows partition, then use the option "use the largest continuous free space"
[14:34] <Dulak> BajK: it has to encrypt and decrypt the data, vs apache just sending raw data
[14:34] <sje46> Hachya: but why isnt there an option to install ubuntu alonside windows?
[14:34] <BajK> hm right, didnt think of that
[14:35] <damno_> lenshark: should be.. the xternal ip  or atleast the hostname
[14:35] <Hachya> sje46: that IS what use the largst continuous free space" means
[14:35] <BajK> is there any good video capture program, like fraps? that just works and doesnt stutter and stuff? recordmydesktop is really nice but sometimes it stutters and makes the sound asynchron
[14:35] <Hachya> sje46: they just don't say "alongside" it's expected that you understand what that option means
[14:36] <damno_> lenshark: btw, is it a within a company's subnet?
[14:36] <Hachya> sje46: then, after installed, GRUB will be the bootloader, with options for linux, and windows
[14:36] <lenshark> yeah
[14:37] <dean> Hey all I am torn between mint and Ubuntu could someone tell me if Ubuntu has any advantages over mint?
[14:37] <damno_> lenshark: u r in problem mate
[14:37] <sipior> dean: try both, see what you like.
[14:38] <lenshark> damn.. but if they reinstall the os, the logs will be deleted as well, right ?
[14:38] <CraHan> sipior: looks like I'm only seeing the issue on Ubuntu 10.04 server
[14:38] <CraHan> desktop sets LC_CTYPE to en_US.UTF-8
[14:38] <damno_> lenshark: try to login into the a computer using a live sesion and see if u can restore the backups
[14:38] <sipior> CraHan: 10.04.2?
[14:38] <dean> sipior: I have tried both but can't make my mind up I have tried kubuntu liked it but had issues when I installed synaptic
[14:39] <xangua> dean: use what you want and stick to the topic: Ubuntu Support Channel
[14:39] <binjemandanderes> hello everyone. it seems my "time" command doesnt work properly: http://nopaste.info/25b4aed69d.html --- it simply doesnt accept any command line arguments. Any idea why this could be?
[14:39] <CraHan> sipior: 10.04.3
[14:39] <CraHan> sipior: downloaded 4 hours ago
[14:39] <Dulak> dean: mint is ubuntu + other stuff, so the question you should ask google is what features does mint have
[14:39] <CraHan> sipior: 64-bit version
[14:39] <RA_drc> !64-bit
[14:40] <RA_drc> !amd
[14:40] <sipior> CraHan: hmm. that's fairly recent. probably worth having a look to see if a bug has been filed.
[14:40] <dean> xangua: I was just looking for maybe someones experienced opinon thats all no need to be rude
[14:40] <CraHan> sipior: I'll go see
[14:40] <dean> Dulak: Ok cool I have googled but not found any differences apart from codecs?
[14:40] <xangua> dean: you are the one being offtopic
[14:41] <sipior> CraHan: in fact, just a few days old!
[14:41] <dean> xangua: I was asking for help whats wrong with that?
[14:42] <quem> i urgently need a francophone.
[14:42] <quem> anyone?
[14:42] <sipior> dean: speaking frankly, this a channel for people looking to solve problems with their computers, not "oh, i can't seem to make up my mind, bother."
[14:42] <Pici> quem: #ubuntu-fr or ##french
[14:42] <quem> ahh.
[14:42] <quem> thanks
[14:44] <dean> sipior: Ok thanks I have made my mind up now anyway, I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be about freedom and if any noobs needed any help it was offered. But I will stick with mint its alot more friendlier in there
[14:44] <sipior> dean: do what you like.
[14:45] <prix> how can i activate the scroll on the touchpad ????
[14:45] <jkeats> is this the correct channel to ask for ufw help?
[14:45] <sipior> jkeats: yep
[14:46] <jkeats> i'll nopaste what i added to my ufw config, do you think you could check to see what i'm doing wrong
[14:46] <Pici> jkeats: If you're running it on Ubuntu, yes.
[14:47] <jkeats> http://pastebin.com/bL5QyQA4
[14:47] <jkeats> this is on natty with current updates
[14:48] <jkeats> and i did the ufw disable && enable bit, but no dice
[14:49] <lucidguy> Do people still use KeyboardVideoMouse toggle systems anymore?  Especially in VMware ESX environments?
[14:49] <Slasher`> i have a KVM switch if thats what you mean#
[14:50] <dr_willis> toggle systems? you mean kvm switches?
[14:50] <Slasher`> and a friend of mine has an kvm over ip in his server rack
[14:50] <Slasher`> a*
[14:50] <Slasher`> even though he uses ESX
[14:50] <SoGOOdToME> anyone knows how to make a customized ubuntuISO ?
[14:50] <dr_willis> i trnd to just use synergy :)
[14:50] <blackhawk> hi,can anyone help me installing a wireless card drive?
[14:50] <jkeats> sipior / Pici ?
[14:51] <sje46> how do you shrink this partition?  https://imo.im/fd/D/soqxL9pXDQ/2011-07-25%2022.46.39.jpg
[14:51] <new2net> I am trying to backup my entire install (not just the files, but all of the MBR stuff that I don't understand too I think) to a single file (like a zip or ?? maybe an iso?)  so if the operation I'm about to perform breaks everything I have a backup plan.
[14:51] <dr_willis> !remaster | SoGOOdToME
[14:51] <sipior> jkeats: i don't use ufw myself. you might have better luck if you provide some context for the folks here.
[14:51] <jkeats> what sort of context? that's about all there is. i'm trying to route traffic from one interface (eth1) to another interface (eth0)
[14:51] <SoGOOdToME> how is that remaster doc?
[14:51] <ThinkT510> sje46: use gparted
[14:52] <jkeats> masquerade it
[14:52] <Slasher`> sje46; i would use a gparted live cd
[14:52] <dr_willis> SoGOOdToME:  i never bother. ;)
[14:52] <sje46> not an option
[14:52] <Slasher`> why not?
[14:52] <sje46> what does it matter?
[14:52] <j3roth> new2net: Check out the open source project clonezilla.
[14:52] <ThinkT510> sje46: gparted is on the ubuntu livecd/usb
[14:52] <sje46> not an option
[14:52] <Slasher`> well yeah or that ^
[14:52] <Slasher`> i forgot about that
[14:53] <sje46> yes, how do you do it on the livecd
[14:53] <Slasher`> run the cd as a live cd, not as an installer, then go to system>administration>gparted (or it may be called partition editor)
[14:53] <dr_willis> boot cd run gparted.. or did i miss somthing.
[14:54] <Aethelred> iceroot: the link provided (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport) when searched for "usb wireless" returns no results. It seems to be a compatability list for pre-built hardware - desktops, servers, laptops, etc.  I need a USB wireless ethernet adapter for which linux drivers exist.
[14:54] <blackhawk> anyone here good with installing wireless pci drivers?
[14:54] <j3roth> new2net: Clonezilla will work make an exact image of your install which you can reimage with.
[14:54] <SoGOOdToME> ouch,! :D i need a customized ISO because my SSD is dead and i'm planning to install iinto a flash drive
[14:54] <Slasher`> if it's the newest ubuntu with unity then press alt+f2 and type gksudo gparted
[14:54] <sje46> Slasher`: there isnt an option to do that as part of the install process?
[14:54] <Slasher`> not that i'm aware of
[14:54] <Aethelred> I need to get a USB wireless ethernet adapter for a new 11.04 install. I'd like either recommendations for specific hardware, or a link to a list of hardware for which drivers exist.
[14:54] <Slasher`> there used to be
[14:54] <Slasher`> i don't see why it was removed, but eh
[14:55] <new2net> j3roth: awesome
[14:55] <SoGOOdToME> dr_willis ; how can i install a tar.gz package?
[14:56] <sje46> Slasher`: well this is 10.04
[14:56] <ThinkT510> SoGOOdToME: have you searched for the package in the repo first?
[14:56] <Slasher`> sje46; i'm talking years ago, they used to use gparted for the partition part of the install, but that's not the case any more, you have to boot it as a live cd then use gparted from there, then install
[14:56] <new2net> For nice/renice (bash) which is a higher priority?  -10 or +10
[14:56] <faint545> SoGOODToME, i believe you have to uncompress the tar.gz file
[14:57] <sipior> new2net: -10
[14:57] <Pici> new2net: negative numbers are 'higher'
[14:57] <new2net> Thank you both
[14:57] <Pici> new2net: Think about it as "how nice is this process going to be to other processes"
[14:58] <sje46> Slasher`: would years ago be 9.04?
[14:58] <sje46> because I swear I had that option when I started ubuntu
[14:58] <Slasher`> sje46; i honestly couldn't tell you, it could be
[14:58] <Slasher`> i started on 6.06 and it was back then lol
[14:58] <CraHan> sipior: looks like on an older release of 10.04 server that I didn't update /etc/envorinment contains a PATH variable and all the LC_* locale vars
[14:58] <dr_willis> sogoo
[14:58] <sje46> alright.   wel thanks for your help
[14:58] <new2net> Pici: haha, I was just thinking that
[14:58] <DennisBenzinger> /quit
[14:58] <Slasher`> no worries, sorry i can't help any more than that
[14:58] <CraHan> sipior: since the latest update, those LC_* entries are gone
[14:59] <CraHan> sipior: and LC_CTYPE ends up being set to UTF-8 which isn't working
[14:59] <staar2> where i could more advanced articles about ubuntu or debian ?
[14:59] <sipior> CraHan: yeah, i see the problem :-) glad it's solved for you.
[14:59] <staar2> read i mean :D
[14:59] <CraHan> sipior: ignore my last comment, that's 8.04 vs 10.04, anyway I know how to fix
[15:00] <dr_willis> staar2:  lunux magazine sites often have detailed articles
[15:00] <faint545> has gnome 3 improved on it's stability and speed since it was released? last time i used it, it was a nightmare.
[15:01] <staar2> dr_willis: could you suggest please links also ?
[15:01] <dr_willis> faint545:  thats how software normally progresses.
[15:01] <xangua> faint545: it's unsupported on latest stabe ubuntu
[15:01] <dr_willis> staar2:  linux journal and linux gazette perhaps
[15:04] <dr_willis> theres some linux wem magazine. comes out in pdf.. what was its name..
[15:05] <dr_willis> http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-50/
[15:07] <antii> hello
[15:07] <antii> anyone familiar with .desktop files?
[15:07] <aetas> dont do that
[15:07] <aetas> just ask your question :)
[15:08] <antii> trying to exec a file using ~/ but that doesent seem to be recognized, only works if I use the full path, like /home/antii
[15:08] <coz_> antii,  which file?
[15:08] <dr_willis> exec how antii
[15:08] <coz_> antii,   if it is an application simply type its name into the termnal   no ./ needed
[15:09] <dr_willis> ~ is a bash feature. not all metods support its use.
[15:09] <coz_> ^^
[15:09] <dr_willis> cron jobs should use the full path
[15:09] <antii> exec a java file with jar
[15:10] <antii> well this is a script extractnig and playing a .desktop file on the desktop ;p
[15:10] <coz_> antii,    java jar nameof.jar
[15:10] <antii> coz_: yes, it works if I use "java -jar /home/antii/file.jar" but I want to be able to use this on multiple users without setting each username in the script
[15:11] <coz_> antii, ,, hmm... if you right click the file does it give you th e option of opening with  sun java
[15:11] <antii> coz_: the file is just a link to the java file
[15:11] <antii> =s
[15:11] <coz_> antii,   not up on executing java apps in general
[15:11] <new2net> yes... javac *.java will compile, then java (main class) .class will start it,  a jar is easy too just use java -jar
[15:12] <antii> still :p it works
[15:12] <aetas> any of you guys actually run ubuntu server before?  if you guys refer me over there I will smack you
[15:12] <jrib> aetas: please ask an actual question
[15:12] <compdoc> Ive installed ubuntu server, but I like a gui
[15:12] <aetas> that is my actual question
[15:12] <Pici> aetas: Any of the 1,500 of us?
[15:12] <jrib> aetas: this channel is for ubuntu support then, not polls
[15:13] <aetas> Pici, have you liked it?
[15:13] <aetas> then dont answer
[15:13] <Pici> aetas: Feel free to ask my opinion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:13] <coz_> antii,    https://manoharbhattarai.wordpress.com/tag/how-to-create-executable-jar-file/   see if that has anything useful
[15:13] <aetas> thats alright, Im sure theres someone else around here
[15:13] <faint545_> compdoc, install ubuntu-desktop
[15:14] <antii> coz_: well.. i already have the jarfile and it works good..
[15:14] <antii> thats not my question..
[15:14] <new2net> compdoc, install kubuntu-desktop
[15:14] <compdoc> faint545_, I did, but it was a waste of time - I just installed Ubuntu instead. theres little difference
[15:14] <eparent> Hello. I tried to install 10.04 LTS over a 9.xx. On the disk partition step, I could not manually select the actual partitions (/swap, /boot, /) from the actual partitions on my HD. Is it because Ubuntu is nowadays typically installed using the "single disk" partitionning scheme?
[15:15] <jrib> eparent: no, you should be able to do that afaik
[15:16] <coz_> antii,   I am not apparenlty the one to help with this one ,, but I am searching
[15:16] <bakarat> if i press "force quit" (the gnome panel thing), sometimes the force quit itself "loses focus" or whatever and just stays on the screen. It isn't crashed, there is simply no way to focus input on it and close it and i don't know which process it is so i can't kill it easily. anyone know the process to kill or another way to exit it?
[15:16] <bakarat> (it also remains atop all other windows at all times which makes it doubly annoying)
[15:17] <coz_> bakarat,  sometimes it is better to simply run xkill from a terminal and then click the troublesome window
[15:17] <eparent> jrib: That's what I tought. I tried with Debian 6.0.2 and could do it without any problem. Guess I'll just stay with Debian for the time being.
[15:17] <coz_> bakarat,  you may have to restart x
[15:17] <aetas> bakarat, what is this thing doing that keeps you from closing it?
[15:17] <eparent> Anyone heard about issues installing Ambiance to Debian 6? I know it is not a debian channel but still...
[15:17] <bakarat> aetas, coz_  the original thing that was crashing is already solved, so my system is stable, just the popup used to "force the application to quit. To cancel press <ESC>." thing remains
[15:17] <coz_> eparent,  I have not
[15:18] <bakarat> coz_, may have to in the future, but i really liked the panel thingy :)
[15:18] <aetas> bakarat, Im asking merely because I'd be more interested in getting that working if it were my system
[15:18] <coz_> bakarat,  I know I set xkill on cairo dock for that very reason
[15:18] <eparent> thnx coz_.
[15:18] <bakarat> aetas, the original application was firefox using up 2.1 gb of memory, classic stuff :)
[15:19] <aetas> bakarat, no I mean why your kill program stops functioning for some unknown reason :)
[15:19] <miind2> hi
[15:19] <miind2> bye
[15:20] <coz_> bakarat,  do you htop installed?  open that and it may tell you what is keeping it running  then highlight it and hit F9 and enter to kill it
[15:20] <idlemind324> so brain fart ... where is xorg.conf?
[15:20] <bakarat> aetas, ah ow hehe. not sure but it may very well be my fault that due to the original hang, the system doesn't respond and i click again
[15:21] <cypha> I'm trying to figure out which postgres package I need
[15:21] <cypha> why are there like 100 of them?
[15:21] <aetas> bakarat, well, long as it doesn't disrupt anything I suppose :)
[15:21] <aetas> 100 different types of people needing them
[15:21] <aetas> which do you need?
[15:21] <bakarat> aetas, well it just annoys the hell out of me cause it always remains at the top, so i'm missing a chunk of my screen :)
[15:22] <aetas> bakarat, how are you starting this program?  maybe I can find the process name for ya atleast
[15:22] <idlemind324> anyone know where xorg.conf is on ubuntu 11.04?
[15:22] <aetas> idlemind324, same place as everywhere else /etc/X11/
[15:22] <dr_willis> idlemind324:  if it exists...
[15:22] <idlemind324> it doesn't
[15:22] <Myrtti> idlemind324: there isn't one by default
[15:22] <aetas> true
[15:22] <idlemind324> =(
[15:22] <bakarat> aetas, there is a gnome panel item called "Force Quit" that, when pressed, opens up a box in the center of the screen. whatever application you click next is killed
[15:22] <Pici> idlemind324: if you create it, xorg will honor the settings.
[15:23] <aetas> idlemind324, what video card?
[15:23] <idlemind324> lol why doesn't a config exist by default
[15:23] <bakarat> aetas, i've scrolled through the running processes, nothing jumps out name-wise
[15:23] <coz_> idlemind324,  out of curiosity  , w hich video card do you have?
[15:23] <dr_willis> x auto confugures for the most part these days
[15:23] <sipior> idlemind324: because it's no longer needed by default.
[15:23] <idlemind324> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11074772
[15:23] <dr_willis> idlemind324:  thats why
[15:23] <idlemind324> ^^ that's why i'm looking
[15:23] <cypha> excellent, dr_willis
[15:23] <cypha> :)
[15:23] <cypha> I was wondering which postgres package to get
[15:23] <idlemind324> i'm using my laptop in "ubuntu safe mode" so i can chat here while i looked
[15:23] <cypha> if you've had any experience with that
[15:23] <aetas> bakarat, not really sure how you're getting to it
[15:24] <Pici> cypha: What do you need?
[15:24] <cypha> I need to setup a psql db
[15:24] <Pici> cypha: Are you looking for the regular old postgres server package?
[15:24] <cypha> yeah
[15:24] <cypha> a pgadmin3 type gui would be nice too
[15:24] <aetas> blah, you couldnt say that when I asked? :)
[15:24] <idlemind324> so how do i tell if i'm using the open source radeon driver if no config exists?
[15:24] <GOMI> why isnt FLASH dead -_-!) piece of crap
[15:24] <zeka> ïðèâåò
[15:24] <cypha> but, I'd like to be able to do CL administration too, in case I ssh in
[15:25] <bakarat> aetas, in the classic gnome (not unity i mean) on a panel you can do right click > add to panel. in that list is a "force quit" shortcut
[15:25] <zeka> hello bakarat
[15:25] <Pici> cypha: install the postgresql-8.4 package and pgadmin3
[15:25] <coz_> idlemind324,  I use  inxi    once installed  try    inxi -b  to a reaout
[15:25] <cypha> pici, what's psql-8.4 client?
[15:25] <coz_> readout I meant
[15:26] <aetas> idlemind324, one sec
[15:26] <zeka> hello  brothers
[15:26] <GOMI> anyone usen lightspark as flash alternative ??
[15:26] <GOMI> usen = using
[15:26] <Pici> cypha: postgresql-client-8.4
[15:26] <cypha> yeah, what's that used for?
[15:26] <coz_> GOMI,   I tried once ,, didnt work
[15:26] <dr_willis> !info lightspark
[15:26] <idlemind324> coz_ inxi? where do you get it?
[15:26] <Pici> cypha: its a command line client for postgres.
[15:26] <cypha> and there's postgresql-8.4 and postgresql-server-dev-8.4
[15:26] <GOMI> coz_,  hmm oke thnx for info
[15:27] <Pici> cypha: apt-cache show packagename
[15:27] <dr_willis> swf and flash are nit the same is it
[15:27] <cypha> Pici, and psycopg2?
[15:27] <aetas> idlemind324, whats "glxinfo | grep vendor" say?
[15:28] <Pici> cypha: python-psycopg2
[15:28] <idlemind324> server glx vendor string: SGI
[15:28] <idlemind324> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
[15:28] <idlemind324> OpenGL vendor string: X.org R300 Project
[15:29] <bakarat> aetas, i give up, i'm gonna log out & in again and just use xkill from now on
[15:29] <sasquatch7> Hello, how do I identify which group has write access to /var/lock?
[15:29] <idlemind324> grr gotta take a support call ... yay for troubleshooting my own problems while @ work
[15:30] <zeka> pici how are Younder
[15:30] <cypha> Pici, yes, so do I need that for python
[15:30] <cypha> ?
[15:30] <cypha> sqlalchemy or something
[15:30] <zeka> yes cypha
[15:31] <cypha> zeka, so should I just get that package, and I'll be fine?
[15:31] <zeka> yes
[15:31] <cypha> like, it'll include postgresql with it?
[15:31] <Pici> cypha: thats for connecting to postgresql from within python.
[15:32] <aetas> Pici, the reason I asked that opinion question here is because I am looking for more detailed info on the comparison between workstation and server in relation to say debian and the question is just as relevant here as it was in the server channel.
[15:32] <aetas> many times the guys tend to jump too quickly without fully understanding what someone is looking for
[15:32] <cypha> Pici, will it install postgres too, or I need to select that separately (i'm in synaptic, btw)
[15:32] <Pici> aetas: Thats question is different than asking what people's opinions are on ubuntu-server.
[15:33] <Pici> cypha: No, that will not install postgres with it.
[15:33] <sukima> I'm looking into a backup solution and wanted to hash out some ideas: I have a file server connected to my ubuntu server via NFS. There is another server off in corporate accessable via samba. I was thinking of using rsnapshot to backup the NFS drive to the SMB server. is this sane?
[15:33] <aetas> Pici, thats because you guys jumped on me before I got there
[15:34] <cypha> Pici, I still don't know 'exactly' which postgres package to get though
[15:34] <Pici> cypha: I told you. postgresql-8.4
[15:34] <cypha> Pici, will that include pgadmin3?
[15:34] <Pici> cypha: no
[15:34] <Ubuntoo> hi
[15:34] <Pici> cypha: You will need to install the pgadmin3 package as well if you want that.
[15:34] <Ubuntoo> is 10.04 better than 11.04?
[15:34] <mafia88> hello
[15:35] <usuario> samu97
[15:35] <Ubuntoo> or better stay with LTS?
[15:35] <cypha> thanks Pici! :)
[15:35] <pentarex> guys what should mean network -unclaimed ? when I type lshw |grep network
[15:36] <Pici> aetas: Server does not include any desktop environment or xorg by default. Both releases use the same respositories. server packages from LTS releases are supported for 5 years, versus 3 years for desktop packages.
[15:36] <mafia88> pentarex you looser
[15:36] <pentarex> ?
[15:36] <Pici> mafia88: Stop that.
[15:36] <mafia88> Okazaki-san,
[15:36] <usuario> olaa
[15:36] <mafia88> ok
[15:36] <Tux_matt> hey someone stold my name lol
[15:37] <usuario> tontos
[15:37] <mafia88> pici can you help me??
[15:37] <usuario> yes
[15:37] <Pici> mafia88: I don't know. You haven't asked a question yet.
[15:37] <cypha> lol
[15:38] <h00k> !register | Tux_matt
[15:39] <cypha> can I make a window close by double clicking the dropdown menu in the top corner of a window
[15:39] <cypha> ?
[15:39] <mafia88> why when i download a game ?my komp whas hending
[15:39] <cypha> hending?
[15:40] <mafia88> henging
[15:40] <Kuwanger> Is there a way to trace a program while it's running to see what functions are being called, how often, and how much CPU time they're using?
[15:40] <IdleOne> hanging*
[15:40] <cypha> IdleOne wins
[15:41] <Tux_matt> why to regester for it
[15:41] <rb_> Kuwanger: strace
[15:41] <Tux_matt> i never had to
[15:41] <markamber> Kuwanger, look up profiling for whatever language that program is in, it is not that simple, but it works well to find what is wrong
[15:41] <sipior> Kuwanger: sure, gdb can attach to a process. also check out valgrind.
[15:41] <mafia88> thanks cypha and Pici
[15:41] <Tux_matt> and i am not running ubuntu right now i am running debian
[15:41] <aetas> Pici, I have a laptop coming to me that I need server type stuff on and was concerned because I need it to function as a workstation but still also function as a server with tight security mainly.  That info helps
[15:41] <cypha> mafia88, what's your native language?
[15:41] <aetas> oops Pic*
[15:41] <aetas> i
[15:41] <Kuwanger> markamber: The program in question is Xorg.  I know of gprof and gcc's -prof, but that's not useful for real-time information.
[15:42] <k1rk> I am trying to use gnome-session-properties to run a startup script.  I need to pass the username to wget.  In a script, I can do this by doing like wget http://stuff/(whoami) but in the startup script, it passes the "whoami" instead of running the command and passing the output.  How can I resolve this without running an external .sh in the startup script?
[15:42] <mafia88> i'm tajik
[15:42] <ThinkT510> Tux_matt: if you register a nick it means nobody else can use that nick
[15:42] <Kuwanger> sipior: How do you trace with gdb?
[15:42] <Tux_matt> ok thanks
[15:42] <rb_> k1rk: enclose the call to whoami in back ticks `whoami`
[15:42] <Tux_matt> for the info
[15:43] <xibalba> hey guys
[15:43] <sipior> Kuwanger: the documentation is pretty thorough. if you need a great deal of timing or syscall information, consider SystemTap also.
[15:43] <xibalba> anyone here famliar with nic-bonding multiple bonds?
[15:43] <mafia88> may i a private dialog with you cypha
[15:43] <mafia88> ??
[15:44] <aetas> ooo private
[15:44] <cypha> about what?
[15:44] <xibalba> i'm going to post a long post to paste.ubunut, then link it here hopefully someone can help me out
[15:44] <Guest8239> does anyone have experience setting up Exim?
[15:44] <sipior> Kuwanger: SystemTap attempts to provide some of the functionality of DTrace (sadly missing from linux)
[15:44] <mafia88> i have a private question
[15:44] <k1rk> rb_: I attempted to do that but it passed the whole thing. "(`whoami`)" to the wget call.
[15:44] <ollie314> join #jquery
[15:44] <cypha> then no
[15:45] <xibalba> hey guys, can you check this out and help me figure out whats going on with nic-boinding?
[15:45] <xibalba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/651826/
[15:45] <xibalba> my bonds dont seem to work
[15:45] <bsmith093> does anyonw here use gpodder? ive just had to reinstall ubuntu completely, both / and home partitions, just to get rid of a REALLY annoying slowdown bug, where the files are dl'ed at a max speed of 10kbps, anyway its been working for a few days, and the bug is back!?!?! im NOT reinstalling AGAIN just to fix this, and last time it was across all podcatchers that i tried, but not browsers, so i could manually dl at normal speed. i have
[15:46] <mafia88> and what is your native language
[15:46] <rb_> k1rk: try maybe this then before the command run ME=`whoami`
[15:46] <mafia88> cyphe?
[15:46] <rb_> then pass $ME into wget
[15:46] <k1rk> rb_: Worth a shot, hold on.
[15:46] <sipior> mafia88: this isn't a general chat channel. have a look at #ubuntu-offtopic for that.
[15:47] <theadmin> rb_: I think you should use $() instead of `` by now, cause `` is hard to nest etc
[15:47] <mafia88> ok
[15:47] <mafia88> sipior, ok
[15:48] <rb_> theadmin: true, i guess i'm stuck in my old ways
[15:48] <k1rk> rb_: It doesn't look like it ran at all that time.
[15:48] <Sary_> Hi guys, I need some help! I tried to log into the netbook edition of ubuntu (I have a netbook but normally run classic mode) and my computer crashed; I can't access any of my programs or files at all, only the GNOME desktop background shows up. Can anyone help?
[15:48] <xibalba> if anyone knows how to setup nic-bonding, could you please check out this paste-bin ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/651826/
[15:48] <xibalba> ikonia , you around ?
[15:48]  * xibalba slaps ikonia with a large trout
[15:48] <abcdefg> I installed kde-full and now Unity doesn't show it's sidebar or panel, I can only right click on the desktop
[15:48] <abcdefg> unity --reset brings it back of course.. but how do i fix it?
[15:49] <xibalba> there needs to be like an ubunut admins channels, and ubuntu desktop channel
[15:49] <xibalba> so we can sift through all this stuff
[15:49] <theadmin> rb_: Well I use that too cause I'm a Perl/Ruby programmer and they haz that
[15:49]  * xibalba doesn't use the desktop at all
[15:49] <rb_> :)
[15:49]  * xibalba unity ?
[15:49] <sipior> xibalba: there's already #ubuntu-server
[15:49] <k1rk> rb_: Actually something was leftover in the command from my last troubleshooting attempt. Hang.
[15:49] <xibalba> sipior , i shall try there too
[15:49] <xibalba> ugh bitchx makes it hard to sift between channels
[15:49] <xibalba> w/all these add/leave messages
[15:50] <abcdefg> i use irssi
[15:50] <k1rk> rb_: New command works in a terminal. Now we'll see if it works as a startup script...
[15:50] <coz_> xibalba,  bitchx is kinds old ...yes?
[15:50] <rb_> k1rk: good luck :D
[15:50] <k1rk> rb_: Nope... didn't pass anything to my script again. :|
[15:51] <bsmith093> anyone have any suggestions ?
[15:51] <xibalba> yeah but i like it, i just dont know how to get rid of these add/join/part messages
[15:51] <k1rk> What's different about how those startup\login scripts run compared to a normal shell script?
[15:51] <xibalba> so it floods my screen
[15:51] <rb_> k1rk: what's interpretting the script?
[15:51] <Kuwanger> sipior: Well, gdb doesn't seem to have what I'm after, which isn't surprising since it's focused on program correctness not timing measurements.  SystemTap may have what I'm after, though.
[15:51] <bsmith093> gpodder suddenly really slow downloader?
[15:51] <xibalba> i should just install mirc on my windows box, jeez
[15:51] <pindropper> how do i change the permissions for all the sub folders in any give sub folder
[15:51] <MrKeuner> Hello, Lucid here... I have evolution-data-... using 200% of the cpu. (quadcore here) how can I prevent this?
[15:51] <cypha> can I make a window close by double clicking the dropdown menu in the top corner of a window?
[15:51] <linuxR> hi all, can someone help: I upgraded from 1gb to 2gb memory and re-installed ubuntu from scratch, installation went fine but as soon as booting from harddisk it becomes unusable slow. This only happens when I have both memory modules inserted and boot from hard drive. Windows runs fine. help, anyone?
[15:51] <k1rk> rb_: I don't know, whatever gnome-session-properties does to run the script at login?
[15:51] <sipior> Kuwanger: valgrind is also an option, potentially.
[15:51] <BitWraith> Why does openssh start and stop as the X server and/or GDM do?
[15:51] <rb_> k1rk: just googling that now...
[15:52] <BitWraith> (and how do I change this behavior?)
[15:52] <Kuwanger> sipior: Valgrind can be setup to print real-time what's happening?
[15:52] <bsmith093> pindropper: sudo chown -R user:user
[15:52] <k1rk> rb_ it's weird because it's like it's not a normal shell run. lol
[15:52] <pindropper> bsmith093: thanks!
[15:52] <mafia88> cypha,(looser
[15:52] <abcdefg> xibalba, what about /ignore #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS
[15:52] <sipior> Kuwanger: real-time? probably not, no.
[15:52] <bsmith093> pin i think, ive had to do that too at times
[15:52] <sipior> mafia88: behave.
[15:52] <ThinkT510> MrKeuner: you can't use 200% cpu
[15:52] <k1rk> rb_ for security reasons, we don't want to have a bash script with this command sitting in the user's home.  So we'd really prefer to do it this way.
[15:52] <Kuwanger> sipior: Well, the point is I need to monitor while the problem is happening. :/
[15:52] <mafia88> ok good i go to sleeep
[15:53] <xibalba> abcdefg , awesome man
[15:53] <xibalba> thank you
[15:53] <abcdefg> ^_~
[15:53] <xibalba> now if i could find someone who has setup dual nic-bonding
[15:53] <xibalba> :)
[15:53] <sipior> Kuwanger: the timing information is retained, and bottlenecks will be very clear at that point.
[15:53] <rb_> k1rk: have you got the shebang line as the first line of the script (#!/bin/sh) ?
[15:54] <sipior> Kuwanger: SystemTap is probably your best bet, though.
[15:54] <mafia88> thanks for allu2
[15:54] <k1rk> rb_: It's not a script exactly. I'm putting it in the startup commands.
[15:54] <k1rk> rb_: But no, I could try putting that in there I suppose.
[15:55] <rb_> k1rk: or in  gnome-session-properties editor thing make the app to call "/bin/bash /path/to/script.sh"
[15:55] <Sary_> Anybody out there who can help me figure out how to get to my computer again? I'm actually ON it right now, having clicked on the 'Get Help Online' from the ctrl alt del box...
[15:55] <linuxR> hi all, can someone help: I upgraded from 1gb to 2gb memory and re-installed ubuntu from scratch, installation went fine but as soon as booting from harddisk it becomes unusable slow. This only happens when I have both memory modules inserted and boot from hard drive. Windows runs fine. help, anyone?
[15:55] <k1rk> rb_: I don't want the script in the user's folder. I don't want them to have access to it. I am chmodding gnome-session-properties so they can't run it and see the command.
[15:56] <k1rk> rb_: I think if I did it that way I'd have no problems. I just don't want to do it that way. I want only gnome-session-properties to have the commands to run the wget thing...
[15:56] <k1rk> It's a bit of a logon agent, and I don't want students to be able to spoof it.
[15:56] <RA_drc> !log
[15:56] <rb_> k1rk: ah i see
[15:56] <k1rk> It's only a temp solution for a year... so we're comfortable with the amount of security that would provide.
[15:56] <k1rk> It's wgetting a php script with get parameters, so we know what students have logged into the pc.
[15:57] <k1rk> But the more we can hide it from them, the better...
[15:57] <rb_> k1rk: so even ro only access is no good then?
[15:57] <k1rk> I realize it can never be totally hidden from the user that has to run the command.....
[15:57] <k1rk> No, I was hoping I could hide it in the gnome-session-properties, then chmod it so they can't run that program.
[15:57] <k1rk> Even though it's probably stored somewhere, I think that would prevent them from finding it.
[15:58] <theadmin> k1rk: You can use a menu editor such as alacarte or lxmed to get them out of menus, and indeed chmod -x it
[15:58] <Sary_> How about this: is there somewhere better I can go to get help with a possible system crash or something equivalently disabling?
[15:58] <k1rk> I understand that... theadmin, but I don't want them to have access to the command I am running at all.
[15:58] <k1rk> If they see it they'll be able to spoof logons.
[15:59] <Sary_> I am about to send my computer in under warranty and have the whole thing replaced and go back to windows if I can't figure out something to do, i've been working on this for a week
[15:59] <k1rk> If I put a bash script in their folder, they'll be able to see it.
[15:59] <k1rk> Then they can see what commands I'm using, and duplicate them to make it look like other people had logged into the machine.
[15:59] <k1rk> I would like to take any measures I can to prevent that from happening.
[15:59] <sipior> Sary_: if you'd like some help, provide some information that we can use to diagnose the problem.
[15:59] <Pici> !enter | k1rk
[15:59] <k1rk> Thanks.
[16:00] <theadmin> Sary_: What exactly is the problem?
[16:01] <Sary_> A response! Sipior, I don't know how to properly PM respond to you, BUT what has happened is that I tried to log in to netbook edition of ubuntu, and when it loaded my side panels were gone and just the standard GNOME background image was left; I can't access programs or files at all
[16:01] <Sary_> I did try to log out and log into Ubuntu classic again, but same problem -- it either won't log back in to classic, or classic is just as messed up somehow
[16:01] <sipior> Sary_: this is a new install?
[16:01] <carbon357> Does anyone know a good method for comparing two harddrives.  Ie like the command diff even.  I've seen a few programs but am looking for any recommendations.  Like diff.  lol
[16:01] <k1rk> No other ideas?
[16:02] <WaltherFI> Sary_: did you install with wubi or from live cd?
[16:02] <theadmin> Sary_: Try reinstalling gnome-panel and probably other things that are gnome-related
[16:02] <Sary_> Sipior No, I have been running ubuntu for about 8 months
[16:02] <theadmin> Sary_: Or, just delete ~/.gnome2
[16:02] <theadmin> Sary_: Try that first actually
[16:02] <Sary_> okay okay, theadmin, how do I do that?
[16:02] <sipior> Sary_: does "ctrl-alt-F1" get you to a virtual console?
[16:02] <theadmin> Sary_: From a terminal, do "rm -r ~/.gnome2"
[16:03] <theadmin> Sary_: If you can't access a terminal, boot the system with "init=/bin/bash" appended to the kernel line and work from there
[16:03] <WaltherFI> Sary_: that'll remove all the gnome2 configuration files
[16:03] <leejohn> good day guys, i'm fairly new to this channel, can i ask a question please
[16:03] <theadmin> Sary_: Or infact, do hit Ctrl+Alt+F2
[16:03] <theadmin> leejohn: Of course
[16:04] <WaltherFI> !ask
[16:04] <leejohn> theadmin:  i setup an ldap server with ubuntu it works great now my question is how can i prevent a multiple login for the same account
[16:05] <rb_> k1rk: sorry i'm not sure what to suggest, maybe (if you fancy it) create a special app that does the wget call in c or c++, you could probably even just do what you had inside a system call
[16:05] <leejohn> is there any pam mechanism to achieve this?
[16:07] <Sary__> @theadmin/sipior, hi, sorry, I stupidly tried to do the ctrl alt f1 thing
[16:07] <sipior> Sary__: and couldn't get back...
[16:07] <Sary__> and went to the virtual console, thus keeping me from this silly chat lol
[16:07] <sipior> Sary__: i thought of that right after i sent the message. sorry :-)
[16:07] <leejohn> sipior:  try alt + left arrow
[16:07] <Sary__> sipior, yes, I had to restart
[16:08] <sipior> leejohn: i think you meant that for someone else.
[16:08] <leejohn> yep sorry
[16:08] <WaltherFI> Sary__: ctrl alt 7 or 8 gets you back
[16:08] <Sary__> I forgot to mention that this is my only computer, so I am talking to you on the same computer that is messed up on --- I did ctrl alt del, help, get help online
[16:08] <Sary__> Ah good information to have :) Thanks WaltherFI
[16:08] <k1rk> rb_: A system call?  Not sure what you mean by that.  It has to be every time a user logs in.
[16:08] <sipior> Sary__: ctrl-alt-F7, to be clear.
[16:08] <Sary__> so uhm, in the virtual console it wouldn't let me log in, said my information was incorrect
[16:08] <theadmin> WaltherFI: Just when would X run on TTY8? Don't confuse people
[16:08] <k1rk> rb_: We are authenticating them with Likewise. Their profile is created AT LOGIN.  And deleted at machine reboot each day.  So we are putting the startup stuff in /etc/skel/ and having it copied over each login. Then it needs to run.
[16:09] <WaltherFI> theadmin: i've run in to that case occasionally on X crashes, speaking from experience
[16:09] <theadmin> Sary__: That's odd
[16:09] <theadmin> Sary__: Well, can you open any form of a terminal at all?
[16:10] <rb_> k1rk: what i mean was (i don't know if you have any programming xp, so this might be a bit much to ask) but write a c++ application that you can put in /bin that will just use the system api to get the url and make the wget call
[16:10] <WaltherFI> Sary__: also, try killall gnome-panel, that should kill the panels and bring them back
[16:10] <Sary__> sipior and theadmin, is there anyway we can get to some sort of private chat? If I am allowed to be a bit more wordy I can perhaps make this make more sense
[16:10] <Sary__> WaltherFI I don't know how to do that,
[16:10] <theadmin> Sary__: I wouldn't mind, sure, you can PM me
[16:10] <WaltherFI> Sary__: in the same terminal at ctrl-alt-f2
[16:10] <sipior> Sary__: you can be wordy here, within reason :-)
[16:10] <Sary__> theadmin, I don't know how to get to the terminal without clicking on it, so I have not succeeded yet no
[16:10] <rb_> k1rk: but it might be a bit overkill for you, but being a compiled binary it wouldn't be readable to your students unless they reverse engineer it
[16:11] <Sary__> er how do you PM someone on IRC?
[16:11] <WaltherFI> Sary__: /query nickname
[16:11] <theadmin> Sary__: You should have just received a PM from me
[16:11] <k1rk> rb_: I do have programming experience. I wrote the php stuff the logon agent is calling up. But I do not know much desktop stuff.  I am more of a PHP kind of guy who knows his way around bash. lol I don't really do compiled languages.
[16:11] <dr_willis>    /msg whoever
[16:11] <k1rk> rb_: But that's not to say I couldn't get someone to write it for me.
[16:12] <Mrokii> Hi. How can I search subfolders from a Nautilus-Window? I wanted to search something, but it doesn't look as if it actually searches the subfolders in one specific folder
[16:12] <saintemalbiche> salut !
[16:13] <theadmin> Mrokii: I dunno about Nautilus, but find $folder -iname 'lolfile' -print
[16:13] <rb_> k1rk: i sent you a pm with a couple of urls to show the sorta thin i mean
[16:14] <Mrokii> theadmin: I'll try that, thanks
[16:14] <theadmin> Mrokii: Without the $
[16:15] <MrKeuner> Hello, Lucid here... I have evolution-data-... using 200% of the cpu. (quadcore here) how can I prevent this?
[16:16] <abcdefg> I did into sudo apt-get install  kde-full now unity is broken with no sidebar or panel. i'm on it via unity --reset
[16:16] <theadmin> MrKeuner: Get rid of evolution-data-server, I doubt you really need it?
[16:16] <dr_willis> abcdefg:  odd.. kde shouldent affect unity at all
[16:17] <MrKeuner> theadmin, I uninstalled almost all evolution except evol-data-common... which would remove gnome-desktop as well
[16:17] <dr_willis> abcdefg:  i will also add.. that unity is so fragile here.. i look at it wrong and it breaks.. :)
[16:17] <theadmin> MrKeuner: Oh, wow
[16:17] <abcdefg> i look at kde and my eyes break
[16:17] <dr_willis> then why did you install it....
[16:17] <abcdefg> i was just trying it out :(
[16:17] <abcdefg> could i just reinstall unity and will it work
[16:18] <dr_willis> abcdefg:  guess you can try. but with unity theres no guarentees. :)
[16:20] <dr_willis> reinstalling rarely fix's things in linux except in specific cases i find.. its just 'windows mindset' .
[16:20] <theadmin> dr_willis: Same about rebooting huh?
[16:20] <dr_willis> theadmin:  depends on the issue. :)
[16:20] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well it helps with kernel panics, yeah...
[16:21] <dr_willis> seen people try to 'fix' things and make them so worse.. rebooting at leasts get them back to square 1 hopefully :)
[16:21]  * theadmin knows a fun way to cause a kernel panic via cli and has no idea what is that for
[16:22] <dr_willis> wine wubi.exe   :)
[16:22] <theadmin> dr_willis: Nah, not that...
[16:23] <edbian> theadmin: rm ...
[16:23] <theadmin> dr_willis: it's "kill -s SEGV 1"
[16:23] <edbian> theadmin: ha
[16:23] <h00k> !danger
[16:24] <dr_willis> im guessing that sends the segv signal to process #1 which is 'init'
[16:24] <h00k> theadmin: please don't do that in her.
[16:24] <dr_willis> segv = segment fault signal  (guessing again) :)
[16:24] <h00k> *here
[16:24] <theadmin> dr_willis: Correct.
[16:24] <theadmin> h00k: Sorry.
[16:25] <wols_> linuxR: in what way does it run slow? have you done some benchmarks? and how is your memory configuration now: how  many modules with what capacity?
[16:25] <dr_willis> i imagine if a program is acting oddly you could force it to segfalt   to examine its coredump. or as a way to test how the app recovers from a crash condition.
[16:25] <cypha> Two question: 1) can I make a window close by double clicking the dropdown menu in the top corner of a window?  2) can I allow for adjustments in the terminal window size to have the text redraw (to fill the full width of the terminal and wrap properly)
[16:25] <h00k> theadmin: we don't take kindly to things like that, and other commands that can be dangerous to other users systems.
[16:25] <h00k> theadmin: Don't do it again.
[16:25] <Tommy_nmw> hello everyone
[16:26] <dr_willis> cypha:  i thought they did double close when you double clicked on them.. or at least it used to for the window 'icon' that used to be at the top left..
[16:26] <cypha> dr_willis, nope, apparently not anymore
[16:26] <Tommy_nmw> my DVD drive is broken. I want to upgrade my 9.04 to 11.04 that is on .iso on my portable HDD. How can I do ?
[16:26] <maco> Tommy_nmw: do you have a flash drive?
[16:27] <theadmin> h00k: I got it, I got it, geez
[16:27] <theadmin> Tommy_nmw: You can't upgrade from Karmic to whatever 11.04 is
[16:27] <dr_willis> cypha:  unity here has that icon gone by default it seems.  never even notice it vanished...
[16:27] <wols_> Tommy_nmw: you cannot do that. you can however upgrade to 9.10 then 10.04 then to 10.10, then to 11.04 and you don't need a disk but only a internet connection, but upgrading this many versions, a new install is probably faster
[16:27] <Tommy_nmw> i don't know how to
[16:27] <dori922> setting up a UEC front end server can i run Debian on a node?
[16:28] <Tommy_nmw> i have no internet connection
[16:28] <dori922> or do the nodes have to be UEC too?
[16:28] <wols_> Tommy_nmw: then I suggest you run 10.04 LTS instead
[16:28] <cypha> dr_willis, it's got a dot that changes color on mouseover
[16:28] <Tommy_nmw> wols_: i have no internet connection
[16:28] <linuxR> wols_, its a strange way of running slow: I have the impression that whenever a disk I/O operation happens, I gets somehow stalled
[16:28] <dr_willis> cypha:  i dont see one here. but i have tweaked my theme.,
[16:28] <theadmin> Tommy_nmw: You can download a 10.10 alternative ISO, upgrade, and again
[16:28] <wols_> linuxR: thought so. doesn't sound like RAM is the culprit then
[16:28] <cypha> oh
[16:28] <aquaboy11_> how can i change a drive letter in ubuntu
[16:28] <aquaboy11_> my windows drive doesnt have a letter anymore
[16:28] <jrib> aquaboy11_: drive letters are a windowism
[16:29] <aquaboy11_> because of ubuntu
[16:29] <wols_> linuxR: which kernel?
[16:29] <linuxR> wols_, but why does everything work then when I remove one memory module?
[16:29] <wols_> aquaboy11_: not possible
[16:29] <theadmin> Troll danger.
[16:29] <Tommy_nmw> theadmin: if i have 10.10 alternate iso , can I accomplish that without internet and DVD drive for upgrade ?
[16:29] <dr_willis> ubuntu dosent change windows drive letters aquaboy11_ . IF you make/remove partitions windows will shift  the 'letters' around.
[16:29] <linuxR> wols_, the one shipped with ubuntu 11.04 desktop
[16:29] <theadmin> Tommy_nmw: Yes, just mount the ISO
[16:29] <Tommy_nmw> theadmin: how to mount and how to run?
[16:30] <viseztrance> Hi, I'm working on a server and I noticed that upon logging in (via ssh) I'm always stuck with a basic terminal ($), which lacks autocompletion, history. How do I start with bash by default?
[16:30] <Tommy_nmw> theadmin: i m not so good at them
[16:30] <wols_> aquaboy11_: run diskmgmt.msc (in windows) and assign the drive letters like you want to there. for specifics, ask a windows channel
[16:30] <theadmin> Tommy_nmw: Right-click the ISO, "Open with Archive Mounter", or "mount -o loop something.iso /somewhere"
[16:30] <linuxR> wols_, with windows it also works with blazing performance :(
[16:30] <theadmin> viseztrance: chsh
[16:30] <aquaboy11_> when i installed ubuntu my windows partition  changed his drive letter and now he doesnt have one anymore
[16:30] <Tommy_nmw> theadmin: and then now to upgrade ?
[16:30] <aquaboy11_> when i start windows
[16:30] <wols_> Tommy_nmw: can accomplish what?
[16:30] <aquaboy11_> i just get a flashing -
[16:30] <theadmin> Tommy_nmw: A window will pop up
[16:30] <dr_willis> viseztrance:  check your users default shell setting.
[16:30] <wols_> linuxR: again: which kernel do you have?
[16:30] <Tommy_nmw> wols_: accomplish upgrade
[16:31] <dr_willis> viseztrance:  via 'chsh' command.
[16:31] <wols_> Tommy_nmw: you cannot upgrade to 10.10 directly. not possible. you MUST upgrade to the next version of ubuntu only, in this case 9.10.
[16:31] <wols_> Tommy_nmw: skipping versions can't be done
[16:31] <Tommy_nmw> theadmin: yes. I can see many files under iso like opeing a dvd disc. which file should I choose to start upgrade process
[16:31] <Tommy_nmw> ?
[16:31] <viseztrance> ah yes, thanks!
[16:31] <theadmin> Tommy_nmw: Well, you got the wrong ISO
[16:31] <viseztrance> it worked
[16:31] <theadmin> Tommy_nmw: I said alternative, not desktop
[16:31] <Tommy_nmw> ok
[16:32] <Tommy_nmw> theadmin: TANGO YANKEE
[16:32] <wols_> linuxR: run hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[16:32] <theadmin> viseztrance: Set your shell to /bin/zsh for maximum awesomeness (make sure it's installed though), heh
[16:32] <Tommy_nmw> Tommy_nmw: out!!
[16:33] <aar> Hi, is there any equivalent for an "except" function in bash syntax? E.g. rm *.txt [except] foo.txt
[16:33] <DBordello> I am automatically loging-in as a user using gdm.  How do I prevent gnome-session from starting?  I want something light-weight, like xterm (I just need x running)
[16:33] <Tommy_nmw> nothing furthere from my side. Tommy_nmw out !!
[16:33] <dr_willis> viseztrance:  you on sort of vpn/hosted virtual thing?  bash is the default shell in ubuntu for users..
[16:33] <dr_willis> DBordello: log out. select the X session you want. make a custome one if you want.. let it auto login then..
[16:33] <viseztrance> dedicated server, latest ubuntu server I believe.
[16:34] <dr_willis> viseztrance:  I think the hosters may have done some tweaks. :)
[16:34] <Tommy_nmw> btw, for those who are living in East of USA , how would you protect heat with the help of ubuntu ?
[16:34] <theadmin> DBordello: You can just "service gdm stop"
[16:34] <coz_> Tommy_nmw,  you mean how to pretect system from overheating?
[16:34] <Tommy_nmw> Do not set Ubuntu ON FIRE!  :D
[16:34] <coz_> oy
[16:34]  * viseztrance anyway it worked, thanks again
[16:35] <h00k> DBordello: don't do that, as it will kill your x from running
[16:35] <JasFasolka> Hello. Got 64 bit Ubuntu + recommended Nvidia drivers + beta 64 bit flash ... and youtube ain't really working that well (sometimes it's just sound & no video). Usually refreshing page helps, but is it normal? I know it's beta flash but it's betta if I ask
[16:35] <DBordello> dr_willis, I tried that.  I even selected auto login custom session.  it still fires up gnome
[16:36] <dr_willis> DBordello:  necause you dont have a custome .xinitrc or was it .xsession  in your home dir...
[16:36] <dr_willis> I forget which one the custom session uses...
[16:36] <Tommy_nmw> I love everyone in this channel than #ubuntu-server . so supportive and interactive this time. also it is really hard to read lines as scholling up is too fast.
[16:36] <dr_willis> i just link the 2 together. :)
[16:36] <linuxR> wols_, thanks, will try to run the benchmark asap
[16:36] <DBordello> dr_willis, hmmm, I tried .xsession.  I'll try .xinit
[16:36] <dr_willis> example .xinitrc (or .xsession) -->  xterm    then exec somelightwindowmanager
[16:36] <dr_willis> 2 lines..
[16:36] <DBordello> i just have xterm
[16:37] <dr_willis> oh wait.. 'xterm &' then 'exec windowmanager'
[16:37] <dr_willis> and yes. you most likely DO want some light window manager.
[16:37] <dr_willis> wmx, icewm, or some other tiny ones...
[16:37] <theadmin> openbox anyone?
[16:37] <dr_willis> too boxy :)
[16:37] <DBordello> dr_willis, nah, I don't actually need X running.  I just need the graphics card drivers started.  I don't do anything physically at the machine
[16:38] <DBordello> so I need X, but I don't need anything displayed
[16:38] <dr_willis> DBordello:  and why do you need the gfx card drivers started?
[16:38] <dori922> setting up a UEC front end server can i run another cloud server type for the nodes? (ie Xen or debian or the like?)
[16:38] <dr_willis> just letting GDM fireup would do that...
[16:38] <xeuz> yo :)=
[16:38] <DBordello> dr_willis, I am using the GPUs for calculations.  Letting gdm fireup lets root access them, I want user level access
[16:39] <Tommy_nmw> that is weird
[16:39]  * dr_willis thinks that seems very weird
[16:39] <cypha> dr_willis, can I make the terminal window redraw the text when I resize the window?
[16:40] <dr_willis> cypha:  what terminal window....
[16:40] <cypha> dr_willis, the terminal window in X
[16:40] <cypha> console?
[16:40] <dr_willis> cypha:  most apps take a 'ctrl-l' to refersh the display
[16:40] <bitterblackale> DBordello: do you have a way to see if the GPU is doing the calcs, and if so, see if they work w/o GDM??
[16:41] <azina_gomuyum> hello!
[16:41] <dr_willis> You dont do a 'ls' then resize and have it rewordwrap stuff that ive ever ween...
[16:41] <cypha> dr_willis, ctrl+l just makes everything disappear
[16:41] <dr_willis> ctrl-l redraws vi and mc windows  i belive...
[16:41] <cypha> dr_willis, I meant terminal window, at the CL
[16:41] <cypha> nothing running
[16:42] <dr_willis> cypha:   You mean the Console?
[16:42] <cypha> I want the output to redraw
[16:42] <dr_willis> depends on the app running..
[16:42] <cypha> ok, I should probably ask, what's the dif btwn console and terminal?
[16:42] <cypha> I'm saying, no app running
[16:42] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 = the console..
[16:42] <theadmin> cypha: console = tty
[16:42] <dr_willis> cypha:   You dont then...
[16:42] <dr_willis> terminal prints.. thats it...
[16:43] <dr_willis> its not a word processor. :)
[16:43] <bitterblackale> DBordello: could also try compiling kernel with GPU modules built-in... maynot need gdm or even X then
[16:43] <cypha> dr_willis, like screen allows it to redraw when the terminal window is resized
[16:43] <Veri0S> hey please my desktop is empty and nothing appear no my computer no icones please help
[16:43] <cypha> but screen doesn't allow for scrolling up with the scrollbar
[16:43] <theadmin> Veri0S: lolwut.
[16:43] <dr_willis> use screen then.. thats an app thats handling it. not the default terminal display method.
[16:43] <theadmin> Veri0S: What "My computer"?
[16:43] <theadmin> dr_willis: tmux > screen
[16:44] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i liked 'twin' better.. but i dont even think its in the repos any more. :)
[16:44] <siegen> hi, My ubuntu doesn't detect my card reader
[16:45] <siegen> I read something about CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_REALTEK
[16:45] <dr_willis> bbl...
[16:45] <h00k> Veri0S: Do you see any menu bars?
[16:45] <cata> hi!
[16:45] <siegen> but it doesn't come in kernel config for 2.6.38 which is on natty
[16:45] <cypha> theadmin, what's tmux?
[16:45] <siegen> anyone else with this issue
[16:45] <theadmin> cypha: A screen manager
[16:45] <cata> problems with compositing, anyone?
[16:45] <llutz> cypha: "screen for emacs users"  :)
[16:45] <cypha> theadmin, better than screen?
[16:45] <cypha> oh
[16:46] <cypha> i use Vim
[16:46] <theadmin> cypha: Me too, I never used emacs
[16:46] <cata> how do i enable compositing?
[16:46] <theadmin> cata: Just run compiz again?
[16:46] <cata> i need it for docky
[16:46] <cata> thanks
[16:47] <frank123> hallo, habe hier einen linux treiber für den fritz wlan stick gefunden kann mir bitte einer bei der installation helfen? http://www.avm.de/de/frame/frame.php?destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwebgw.avm.de%2Fdownload%2Ft_download.jsp%3Flang%3Dde%26os%3Dlinux%26product%3DFRITZ!WLAN+USB+Stick%26category%3D
[16:47] <llutz> !de | frank123
[16:47] <Veri0S> yes Guy i see my bars but the icons on the desktop NO
[16:48] <jvgeli> anyone having issues with Power Management in laptops with Natty? may battery seems to drain faster
[16:49] <admiralvorian> hey ubuntu, my compiz keeps flashing the screen and removing my window decorator when I'm running chromium browser
[16:50] <dori922> setting up a UEC front end server can i run another cloud OS type  the nodes? (ie Xen or debian or the like?)
[16:53] <admiralvorian> OK guys compiz keeps relaunching and it's starting to make me very sad :(
[16:54] <Pici> dori922: #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-cloud would be a better place to ask that :)
[16:54] <dori922> Pici: check #ubuntu-cloud :P they NEVER speak :( ill give server a shot though
[16:55] <milen8204> Any one can help whit "the file is possibly corrupt. The file header checksum does not match the computer checksum"
[16:55] <milen8204> that error masage
[16:55] <Pici> dori922: Theres also a bunch of cloud sessions going on this week in #ubuntu-classroom (ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat if you're interested)
[16:56] <Veri0S> hook: answer me i see my bars but the icons and the right click on the desktop NO
[16:56] <Algorith> what kind of help are you looking for? The message kind of says it all,no?
[16:57] <floodplain> Pici: never heard of the classroom, does it vary in topics from beginners to adv?
[16:58] <dori922> Pici:  i love you
[16:58] <Guest15581> hola
[16:58] <dori922> <3
[16:58] <Guest15581> Esto cómo va??
[16:58] <Guest15581> es la pimera vez que ento
[16:59] <dr_willis> !es | Guest15581
[16:59] <Guest15581> ok
[16:59] <theadmin> PUTTY Y U NO DEFAULT TO UTF-8 :/
[16:59] <theadmin> Sorry
[16:59] <dsam> hi
[16:59] <Pici> floodplain: They usually have scheduled sessions. This week is for Cloud stuff.  I'm not sure if there is a more official page, but I seem to have this url in my history: http://ubuntuclassroom.wordpress.com/
[17:00] <floodplain> Pici: ty
[17:01] <Hero> can someone help me download this file: http://en.pudn.com/downloads245/doc/comm/detail1141645_en.html
[17:01] <Guest15581> Do i can speak spanish o if i do will be banned??
[17:02] <Infernet> Guest15581: come on #ubuntu-es
[17:02] <Guest15581> ok, thanks
[17:03] <astroshima> "I will vim open the drupal formula in the screen session" - Where is a "screen session" for ubuntu-classroom channel please?
[17:04] <Algorith> perhaps it means he opens vim in GNU screen?
[17:06] <dr_willis> theadmin:  you can set it to  use utf-8 by default i think., i always just set my sessions to use  utf-8
[17:09] <maxJadi> Hi, I have debian server and I want to install freeradius 2.1.8 but in debain repository 2.0.4 is available , Is there any way to download 2.1.8 form ubuntu repository instead of getting source code and compile it?
[17:09] <tdignan> from what I understand an i386 binary should run on a 64-bit OS?
[17:09] <tdignan> why won't dpkg let me install an i386 package?
[17:09] <keldtin__>  needs help with ntop, channel suggestions, anybody?
[17:10] <theadmin> tdignan: It won't work
[17:10] <theadmin> tdignan: If your OS is a 64-bit one, you need an amd64 package
[17:10] <tdignan> theadmin: why won't it work?
[17:10] <tdignan> :/
[17:10] <tdignan> I am fairly certain the 64 bit one is buggy
[17:10] <tdignan> (mysql-workbench-gpl)
[17:11] <tdignan> guess I'll deal with the segfaults for now, thanks for the info
[17:11] <theadmin> tdignan: You also should probably use gdebi rather than dpkg, to handle dependencies
[17:12] <RoniW> Hi!  I have a Dell Latitude C640 that I just upgraded to Ubuntu 10.04 on.  My sound driver isn't showing up and I'm at a complete loss.  Any suggestions for a newbie?  :)
[17:13] <qin> rsync, how to avoid getting sticky bit from server?
[17:14] <RoniW> is anyone familiar with Dell Latitude C640 who can help with sound driver issues??
[17:16] <qin> qin: -p, you silly boy.
[17:17] <RoniW> can ANYONE help with sound driver issues?  I have a Dell Latitude C640 & just updated to Ubuntu 10.04.
[17:17] <RoniW> now I have no sound
[17:20] <RoniW> is anyone able to offer assistance with sound issues on Dell Latitude C640?
[17:21] <ThinkT510> RoniW: have you checked to see if the sound is muted?
[17:22] <yago> buenas
[17:22] <RoniW> yes, thanks.  My driver isn't showing up in my hardware now.
[17:22] <yago> he instalado el cliente de irc smuxi pero me conecto x net y yo kiero conectar x el hispano
[17:23] <RoniW> it was working in 9.04, but not in 10.04
[17:23] <ThinkT510> !es | yago
[17:25] <ThinkT510> RoniW: i'm not that experienced with sound issues; do you know the name of the driver?
[17:25] <RoniW> Think:  I don't.
[17:26] <bitcycle> Hey all.  Could someone tell me how to generate a default bashrc file for a new user?
[17:26] <ThinkT510> RoniW: can you pastebin lspci?
[17:27] <theadmin> bitcycle: Create /etc/skel/.bashrc
[17:27] <theadmin> bitcycle: And go from there
[17:27] <RoniW> ThinkT510:  Type that in terminal, yes?
[17:27] <yago> osea q dsd aki no voy a poder conectar a ningun canal del hispano?
[17:27] <ThinkT510> RoniW: yeah, lspci
[17:28] <RoniW> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
[17:28] <RoniW> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
[17:28] <RoniW> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB Controller #1 (rev 02)
[17:28] <RoniW> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 42)
[17:28] <RoniW> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
[17:28] <FloodBot1> RoniW: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <RoniW> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801CAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 02)
[17:28] <ThinkT510> RoniW: then pastebin the output and put the pastebin link here
[17:28] <ThinkT510> !paste | RoniW
[17:28] <RoniW> I'm sorry, everyone.  I'm new at this.
[17:29] <ThinkT510> !paste | RoniW
[17:29] <WhyHelloThere> hi guys, how do I use apt-get to just check if a package exists (and the version) instead of automatically installing it?
[17:30] <ThinkT510> !paste | RoniW
[17:30] <ThinkT510> RoniW: know how to pastebin?
[17:31] <trism> WhyHelloThere: apt-cache policy package_name
[17:31] <RoniW> Think, I sent a private message to you.
[17:31] <ThinkT510> RoniW: keep it in the channel please
[17:31] <WhyHelloThere> trism: says "W: Unable to locate package ___"
[17:32] <ThinkT510> RoniW: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and copy and paste the output from lspci there
[17:32] <RoniW> okay, but I don't know how to do the paste thing.  I clicked on the link, nothing happened.
[17:32] <kora-chan> hi, i'm using 11.04 and a classic gnome session (not the unity one). the problem is when i boot up, my window decorations are missing. i have to manually "sudo compiz --replace" in a terminal to get them back... any idea whats wrong or how to troubleshoot it?
[17:33] <oneliner> hello, i ve downloaded chrome in .deb format and was wondering, what is the best way to install it?
[17:33] <trism> WhyHelloThere: then the package probably isn't there, try: apt-cache search package_prefix; to try and find it
[17:33] <ThinkT510> RoniW: then give us the link
[17:33] <theadmin> oneliner: dpkg -i google-chrome.deb
[17:33] <edbian> oneliner: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb
[17:33] <WhyHelloThere> okay, thanks!
[17:33] <theadmin> Oh sudo.
[17:33] <edbian> oneliner: Or double click it, it should open in gdebi which has an install button
[17:33] <theadmin> I keep forgetting Ubuntu uses sudo so much
[17:33] <idlemind324> ahh back
[17:34] <oneliner> excelent! this method will allow me to pin it to the unity sidebar right?
[17:34] <idlemind324> nothing like driving all the way to a clients office because her camera doesn't work only to find out the cord was un-plugged ... the exact cord i asked her about when i talked to her on the phone
[17:34] <RoniW> oh, I was sharing what came up after I typed in lspci
[17:34] <hotmedal> kora-chan: Unity broke my classic gnome too :(
[17:34] <edbian> oneliner: I believe so yes.
[17:34] <idlemind324> hotmedal, kora-chan: unity broke my face
[17:35] <RoniW> http://paste.ubuntu.com/651878/
[17:35] <oneliner> cool, double clicking fires up the software center
[17:35] <ThinkT510> RoniW: is that the whole output?
[17:36] <RoniW> ThinkT510:  that's all that came up when I typed that in
[17:36] <idlemind324> so kms is what automatically configures X now-adays?
[17:37] <ThinkT510> !xrandr | idlemind324
[17:37] <Northernen> What to do I can only boot normally into black screen, and recovery mode won't work?
[17:37] <ThinkT510> oops wrong factoid
[17:38] <ThinkT510> RoniW: not sure what to suggest, your sound device isn't on the list
[17:38] <edbian> Northernen: have you tried nomodeset ?
[17:38] <RoniW> ThinkT510:  do you think it could've gone bad?  Should I try resintalling driver?
[17:39] <Northernen> edbian, won't work.
[17:39] <edbian> Northernen: You've tried it?
[17:39] <Northernen> edbian, yep.
[17:39] <ThinkT510> RoniW: where do you get the driver from?
[17:39] <edbian> Northernen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[17:39] <idlemind324> ok bb in a bit restarting x
[17:39] <edbian> Northernen: This details the bug.
[17:39] <RoniW> ThinkT510:  good question.  I only see drivers for windows
[17:39] <WhyHelloThere> how can I find a file in ubuntu through the terminal?
[17:40] <ThinkT510> RoniW: it should already be installed
[17:40] <ThinkT510> RoniW: it seems to me your sound is not a pci device
[17:40] <RoniW> ThinkT510:  I don't understand why it was working in 9.10, but not 10.04
[17:40] <ThinkT510> RoniW: nor do i
[17:40] <Northernen> WhyHelloThere, use 'find'.
[17:40] <edbian> WhyHelloThere: Where is the file?
[17:41] <WhyHelloThere> not sure - actually it's not there
[17:41] <ThinkT510> RoniW: is it a normal 10.04 install?
[17:41] <Northernen> edbian, cheers, will take a look. I know it is definitely caused by fglrx.
[17:41] <RoniW> ThinkT510:  It was an upgrade via Update Manager.
[17:41] <edbian> Northernen: :(
[17:41] <jhernandez> is there another ubuntu irc channel focused on ubiquity?
[17:41] <Northernen> WhyHelloThere, find /path/to/startlooking -name nameOfFile
[17:42] <CraHan> Found the reason for the LC_CTYPE error on my server: looks like OS X Lion's terminal app set LC_CTYPE too (and sets it to UTF-8) which seems to overrule the value on the server when I SSH into the machine. Instead of the expected LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8, it's then set to LC_CTYPE=UTF-8 which isn't a valid locale on my Ubuntu server
[17:42] <ThinkT510> RoniW: oh, i've never really done upgrades, i always fresh install, less to go wrong that way
[17:42] <Hot> hello.I'm looking for a cosole text mode browser for ubuntu
[17:42] <RoniW> ThinkT510, should I attempt it that way to see what happens?
[17:42] <Hot> can you suggest one please ?
[17:43] <aeon-ltd> Hot: elinks, links2
[17:43] <Northernen> edbian, forced to use Windows 7 while I'm troubleshooting it :(
[17:43] <Hot> thanks aeon-ltd
[17:43] <aeon-ltd> Hot: w3m is installed by default though
[17:43] <Hot> thanks again aeon-ltd
[17:43] <ThinkT510> RoniW: if you backup what you need first then yes, unless somebody else can help you
[17:43] <mang0> Hm, in terminal, once I've cd'd to a DIR, how do I then open that DIR with a GUI?
[17:43] <sipior> CraHan: interesting. what happens if you uncheck "Set locale environment variables on startup" in Terminal.app?
[17:44] <mang0> like, if I goto a folder in terminal how do I open that folder so I can see all the stuff? In the explorer I suppose...
[17:44] <RoniW> ThinkT510:  well, no one else has offered to help, so they may not know how.  Thanks for your help; I'll do a fresh install.  :)
[17:44] <sipior> mang0: try "gnome-open ."
[17:44] <mang0> k
[17:45] <Hot> youuuuu sayy yesssss
[17:45] <Hot> I sayy no
[17:45] <mang0> yess!
[17:45] <mang0> sipior: thankyou, perfect :)
[17:45] <ThinkT510> RoniW: glad to help, i always keep my personal files on a seperate partition so i don't lose anything, makes fresh installs very easy
[17:45] <Hot> you say why ? and I say I don't knowwwwwwwwww
[17:45] <Hot> oooooooh
[17:45] <oCean> Hot: stop that
[17:45] <Hot> wouoooooooo
[17:45] <sipior> mang0: sure thing.
[17:45] <mang0> :)
[17:45] <qin> mang0: ls -la, or nautilus `pwd`
[17:45] <Hot> you say goodbye,and I say helloooo
[17:45] <RoniW> ThinkT510:  Have a wonderful day and thanks for all your advice!
[17:46] <oCean> Hot: stop that now
[17:46] <theadmin> qin: Better: nautilus $PWD
[17:46] <mang0> qin: gnome-open dir-url-here works
[17:46] <ThinkT510> RoniW: np
[17:46] <astroshima> RoniW: I would try LiveCD version first!
[17:46] <Northernen> edbian, I'm reading the article now, but do you know if the issue is only connected to the boot, or to actual faulty drivers?
[17:46] <chilversc> what's wrong with just; nautillus .
[17:46] <RoniW> astroshima:  thanks!  I'll try that!
[17:46] <qin> theadmin: Yes, `pwd` is likely to fall
[17:46] <chilversc> *nautilus
[17:46] <usr13> RoniW: Wireless quit working?
[17:46] <ministerdude> How do I work this Unetbootin. My thumbdrive is plenty big enough to handle making a "live cd" so I can partition but what do I do with it
[17:46] <edbian> Northernen: I have no idea.  The article explains that you can tell depending on symptoms iirc
[17:47] <RoniW> usr13:  I haven't a clue.  Wireless internet works; is that what you mean?
[17:47] <astroshima> RoniW: If LiveCD of 10.4 do not work then fresh install will not work too
[17:47] <jhernandez> hi all! is there another ubuntu irc channel more focused on ubiquity issues?
[17:47] <usr13> RoniW: What is your issue?
[17:47] <RoniW> astroshima:  great!
[17:47] <ThinkT510> !unetbootin | ministerdude
[17:48] <RoniW> usr13:  my sound was working with Ubuntu 9.04, but I upgraded to 10.04 and now, my it doesn't even show up on my hardware list
[17:48] <usr13> RoniW: Oh, it's sound?
[17:48] <RoniW> usr13:  Yep.
[17:49] <usr13> RoniW: Is it a laptop?
[17:49] <qin> theadmin: hm, $PWD fails too, on whites..
[17:49] <RoniW> usr13:  Yes, Dell Latitude C640
[17:50] <oneliner> thanks for advice, chrome running smoothly and pinned to the sidebar, see you all later
[17:50] <sipior> qin: "$PWD"
[17:50] <usr13> RoniW: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  #Ctrl-c to stop, see if you hear anything.
[17:50] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[17:50] <usr13> RoniW: Or if you get error...
[17:50] <RoniW> usr13:  Will try that now
[17:50] <Guest20552> can someone help me with IRC / Xchat ?  I need to connect to a help service and dnt know how
[17:50] <qin> sipior: Good, as is "nautilus ."
[17:50] <dli> RoniW, or, aplay /dev/urandom
[17:51] <usr13> dli: RoniW Yea, that works too.
[17:51] <Guest20552> can someone tell me how to connect to this in Xchat ? IRC: irc.esper.net #dynmap
[17:52] <ubuntu5555252> Kaboom! Everyone went home.
[17:52] <qin> And finally: nautilus "`pwd`" works too.
[17:52] <astraljava> Guest20552: Find the server setting, put
[17:52] <oCean> ubuntu5555252: do you have a support question?
[17:52] <aeon-ltd> Guest20552: they'll know in #xchat
[17:52] <astraljava> Guest20552: sorry, 'irc.esper.net' on that, and once it has connected, type /join #dynmap
[17:52] <ubuntu5555252> Yeah
[17:53] <RoniW> dli:  it worked with aplay /dev/urandom, but I heard nothing.  I checked the output and it said:  Output Dummy.  Whaaaaat?
[17:53] <usr13> RoniW: What?
[17:53] <dli> RoniW, cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:53] <usr13> RoniW: Did you hear anything?
[17:53] <ubuntu5555252> On my pavillion dv6-6135dx, graphics, wireless, and sound dont work
[17:53] <Hot> quit
[17:53] <RoniW> dli: usr13: I heard nothing
[17:53] <ThinkT510> RoniW: can you run alsamixer in a terminal?
[17:53] <usr13> RoniW: Or, did you get any sort of error?
[17:53] <Guest20552> where is server setting ?
[17:54] <Guest20552> is that a network list ?
[17:55] <jfcaron_h> When I find Ubuntuforums.org results on Google, some of them I can read, but some of them ask for a username/password.  The only difference visible is the thread number.  Is there a reason for this?  I'd rather not make yet-another-forum-account for passively reading posts.
[17:55] <RoniW> ThinkT510, when I typed alsamixer in terminal, it said:  cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[17:55] <antihero> Is there a way to skip triggers on apt-get
[17:55] <antihero> mine's having a problem with man-db since I removed ruby
[17:55] <usr13> RoniW:  which alsamixer
[17:55] <Guest20552> thanks its connected
[17:56] <RoniW> dli:  No such file or directory with cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:56] <astraljava> Guest20552: First you have to select the network. Do you know in which network it belongs to?
[17:56] <usr13> RoniW: As ThinkT510  suggests, run alsamixer  and see if anything is turned down or muted.
[17:56] <ThinkT510> usr13: he just  tried
[17:56] <RoniW> usr:  I don't know.  ThinkT510 suggested alsamixer in terminal.  I typed it, but got the message:  No such file or directory.
[17:57] <usr13> ThinkT510: Sounds like he has software that needs to be installed.
[17:57] <usr13> RoniW: sudo apt-get install sox
[17:57] <tuxtin> How do I kill a module without rebooting?
[17:57] <RoniW> usr13:  okay
[17:57] <dli> RoniW, do you have /proc/asound?
[17:57] <ThinkT510> usr13: seems to me something went wrong during his upgrade to 10.04
[17:58] <Gracenotes> hey. I think I've forget. how can I integrate a calendar into the indicator applet time/date widget?
[17:58] <Gracenotes> tuxtin: modprobe -r
[17:58] <tuxtin> thanks Gracenotes!
[17:58] <astraljava> Guest20552: So it's in IRCnet. But guess you made it there fine.
[17:58] <usr13> ThinkT510: Yea, more than likely. Maybe the upgrade process got interrupted somehow.
[17:58] <theadmin> tuxtin: Or rmmod
[17:58] <Gracenotes> yup
[17:58] <RoniW> dli:  I don't think so.  I'm running sudi apt-get install sox now, so I'll check when it's finished
[17:59] <RoniW> dli:  No such file or directory
[17:59] <usr13> ThinkT510:  RoniW  dli Let's see if apt-get works.
[17:59] <RoniW> usr13:  what do I do when it's finished?
[17:59] <usr13> RoniW: Check to see if sound works.
[18:00] <HelloWorld321> I'm re-installing Ubuntu from CD (because my WUbI install is apparently for losers), and it gives me two options for CD-Boot type: 1 & 2 .... but both 1 & 2 are blank.   Which CDRom boot type is "normal" ?
[18:00] <Gracenotes> really, I saw the events thing in some screenshot, but have no idea how to enable it
[18:00] <UnnamedUzer> hi all
[18:00] <dli> RoniW, sound will not work without /proc/asound/, what's your sound card? lspci|grep -i audio
[18:01] <Gracenotes> if it means having to set up evolution with an email address, that effing sucks
[18:01] <usr13> dli: He is installing software right now.
[18:01] <RoniW> sur13: ThinkT510: dli:  Still no sound.  I'll check to see what my sound card is
[18:01] <antihero> Is there a way to skip triggers on apt-get
[18:01] <edbian> HelloWorld321: I'm not sure what you're talking about.  Can you describe the screen you're seeing in more detail?  Is it black and white?
[18:01] <edbian> HelloWorld321: Wanna PM me?
[18:01] <UnnamedUzer> does any body has connected iPhone to Ubuntu???
[18:01] <Gracenotes> :|
[18:01] <tuxtin> With modprobe -r I get a fatal error because the module it's currently running. Is there a way to kill the module without blacklisting and rebooting?
[18:02] <UnnamedUzer> somebody...anybody...
[18:02] <ThinkT510> !iphone | UnnamedUzer
[18:02] <usr13> RoniW: alsamixer   #See if sound card is detected.  Look in upper left corner.
[18:02] <th0r> tuxtin: rmmod
[18:02] <RoniW> dli: I typed in lspci|grep -i audio and nothing happened.
[18:02] <hotmedal> Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-10. My compaq mini notebook does not boot ubuntu if the wifi button is off. Also, if while running, i turn the wifi button off, everything freezes.
[18:02] <tuxtin> Ok I'll try that th0r!
[18:03] <UnnamedUzer> let's look at it
[18:03] <dli> RoniW, lspci
[18:03] <ThinkT510> RoniW: you showed me lspci earlier, i saw no audio device remember? i really think you need to install afresh
[18:03] <RoniW> usr13:  do you mean Applications >Sound and Video?
[18:03] <schmichael> i have an encrypted homedir using ecryptfs but i would like to turn off filename encryption because it breaks scalac (scalac generates long filenames which ecryptfs cannot handle)... is that possible?
[18:03] <dli> RoniW, if lspci doesn't show your sound card, you may have disabled audio in BIOS
[18:04] <UnnamedUzer> !iphone
[18:04] <maddagaska> Hi, is this the right place to be asking advice on correct file placement in packages? (lintian is complaining about file placement in a package I have created myself)
[18:04] <usr13> RoniW: alsamixer  #Run it from terminal
[18:04] <ThinkT510> usr13: he already did, it didn't work
[18:04] <usr13> RoniW: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[18:04] <usr13> ThinkT510: What do you mean "it didn't work"?
[18:04] <tuxtin> asfdjkhadjfajdhfexit
[18:05] <tuxtin> exit
[18:05] <tuxtin> exit
[18:05] <tuxtin> exit
[18:05] <FloodBot1> tuxtin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <deception_> schmichael: found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1371262
[18:05] <maddagaska> tuxtin: /quit
[18:05] <ThinkT510> user13: <RoniW> usr:  I don't know.  ThinkT510 suggested alsamixer in terminal.  I typed it, but got the message:  No such file or directory.
[18:05] <astraljava> maddagaska: Might I suggest #ubuntu-motu?
[18:05] <RoniW> usr13: dli: ThinkT510   How would I enable in BIOS?  I typed in sudo apt-get install alsa-utils, but nothing was added.
[18:05] <maddagaska> Thanks astraljava, I'll hop in there.
[18:06] <usr13> ThinkT510: He must have been telling us the output of something else.
[18:06]  * maddagaska unhops and regoogles
[18:06] <schmichael> deception_: wow... that sucks :(
[18:06] <usr13> RoniW: Did it say "alsa-utils is already the newest version"?
[18:06] <dli> RoniW, it's probably nothing to do with software, if lspci doesn't show audio card
[18:06] <deception_> schmichael: yeah I'm still looking for ya tho
[18:06] <schmichael> deception_: any other ideas about getting around the filename limit?
[18:06] <widdlyscudz> what is this madness!
[18:06] <schmichael> deception_: thanks. i've always loved ecryptfs and hope to keep using it, but this has been really frustrating
[18:07] <astraljava> widdlyscudz: Do you have a support question?
[18:07] <wamicho> my box hangs a lot ever since i upgraded to 10.04.3 any one aware of this problem ..?
[18:07] <widdlyscudz> no
[18:07] <widdlyscudz> im just testing my epic4
[18:07] <RoniW> user13: ThinkT510: dli:  yes, got the message - alsa-utils is already the newest version
[18:07] <usr13> RoniW: You are correct in thinking that there is a possibility that it may be turned off in BIOS settings.
[18:07] <astraljava> widdlyscudz: Then please, #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:07] <schmichael> deception_: can i make unencrypted mounts/dirs inside my home partition? i don't need this scala code encrypted (at least atm)
[18:07] <widdlyscudz> kkk sorry
[18:07] <astraljava> widdlyscudz: No prob. :)
[18:07] <RoniW> usr13:  How do I turn it back on?
[18:08] <dli> RoniW, first, you would like to reboot, and enter BIOS setting at during power on self test, then, audio would just work
[18:08] <usr13> RoniW: What happens when you type   alsamixer   and hit enter?
[18:08] <deception_> schmichael: I'm not positive but if you could do that it, it would definitely solve your problem.
[18:08] <RoniW> usr13:  cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[18:09] <RoniW> dli:  I am SO new at this.  How do I enter BIOS setting?
[18:09] <ThinkT510> RoniW: i doubt you would need to enable sound from the bios
[18:09] <wamicho> my box hangs a lot ever since i upgraded to 10.04.3 any one aware of this problem ..?
[18:09] <dli> RoniW, it depends on your mainboard. :( usually, it's Del, F2, F10, etc.
[18:10] <usr13> RoniW: Telling you how to enable sound in the BIOS is not something I can tell you off the top of my head.  I don't know.  There are lots of diferent BIOS configurations and lots of options.  You just have to look for it.
[18:10] <deception_>  schmichael: yes you can do that!
[18:10] <schmichael> deception_: looks like there's a ecryptfs_passthrough option ... not sure how to use it or if it's safe to do now...
[18:10] <schmichael> ooh, do tell! :)
[18:10] <valentinex> When I try to run Ubuntu from Live usb it asks for username password at login screen, isn't it stupid?
[18:10] <deception_>  schmichael: I just mounted another partition I have into a empty folder in my home folder
[18:11] <RoniW> ThinkT510: dli: usr13:  Thanks so much for all your help!  I'll try enabling sound; if that doesn't work, I'll have a beer or two.  :)  jk
[18:11] <deception_> mount /dev/sda5 ~/test/
[18:11] <hotmedal> Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-10. My compaq mini notebook does not boot ubuntu if the wifi button is off. Also, if while running, i turn the wifi button off, everything freezes.
[18:11] <usr13> RoniW: Entering the BIOS configuration screens requires a key press at just the right time during boot up. YOu should see something flash up on the screen during early boot process that tells you.
[18:11] <dli> RoniW, without lspci showing audio card, there's nothing you can do with software, after that, you need the kernel driver to get /proc/asound/ , after that, it may be just alsamixer
[18:11] <th0r> valentinex: do you have a question or are you just here to whine?
[18:11] <usr13> RoniW: And it is different for various different CMOS chips.
[18:11] <ThinkT510> RoniW: glad you can keep positive, hope it works for you. :)
[18:12] <valentinex> th0r: what is that default username password? I want to suggest to remove that as we are not told default username password even at ubuntu.com
[18:12] <deception_>  schmichael: You'll just have to move all your long named files to another partition or you can just make big empty file and mount it as a loop
[18:12] <usr13> RoniW: There may also be some sort of switch on the laptop itself that toggels sound on / off.
[18:12] <RoniW> dli:  usr13:  ThinkT510:  Y'all have a great day and thanks again!
[18:12] <cypha> how can I run gedit without losing the command prompt?
[18:12] <usr13> NP
[18:13] <usr13> cypha: gedit &
[18:13] <theadmin> cypha: gedit &disown
[18:13] <cypha> usr13, thanks
[18:13] <schmichael> deception_: hm, thanks.
[18:13] <cypha> disown?
[18:13] <valentinex> And Ubuntu also have removed that option from installation "Use continuous free space" which was a lot helpful for me.
[18:13] <cypha> what's that?
[18:13] <theadmin> cypha: That'd make gedit stay open if you close the terminal
[18:13] <valentinex> How to create manual partitions?
[18:13] <Pici> valentinex: You shouldn't be asked for a username or password, I suspect that your iso was either corrupt or it was not burned properly.
[18:13] <DrSlony> Hey, I just had two "reports" from family that on two separate laptops with the last 2 weeks the top ubuntu panel automagically disappeared. I don't know about the first laptop but on the second one the user closed the lid, then when he opened the lid and entered his password the top panel was missing, even after reboot. Is this a known issue? Is there a fix?
[18:13] <usr13> valentinex: fdisk
[18:13] <soundtrack> How can I review a desktop notification once the bubble has faded away?
[18:13] <DrSlony> *within the last 2 weeks
[18:14] <Slart> valentinex: you can try ubuntu/ubuntu .. although I'm not sure why it even asks.. it usually doesn't
[18:14] <cypha> theadmin, should I make a bash shortcut for that?
[18:14] <cypha> theadmin, or can I make gedit open like that by default?
[18:14] <valentinex> usr13: fdisk?
[18:14] <usr13> valentinex: Yes
[18:14] <MARMELADE> hello
[18:14] <theadmin> cypha: You can't. It's not normal for a shell not to wait for the process to end
[18:15] <theadmin> cypha: So, make a shortcut.
[18:15] <MARMELADE> i have got a problem with unity
[18:15] <MARMELADE>  
[18:15] <usr13> valentinex:  sudo  fdisk /dev/sdc  #Where /dev/sdc is the disk you want to partition.
[18:15] <hotmedal> MARMELADE: join the club
[18:15] <cypha> k
[18:15] <MARMELADE> how to fix it ?
[18:15] <usr13> valentinex: (m for help)
[18:16] <valentinex> usr13: oh that is not easy method. I have left free partition space from windows, as I am trying to install ubuntu and windows with dual boot
[18:16] <aerial> !list
[18:16] <hotmedal> MARMELADE: xfce
[18:16] <MARMELADE> no i meant
[18:16] <MARMELADE> i have another problem
[18:16] <MARMELADE> if i maximize windows, they mazimies on the other desktop
[18:16] <MARMELADE> t
[18:16] <hotmedal> the other desktop?
[18:16] <usr13> valentinex:  If you have free space, just start the Ubuntu install and the installer will create the partitions as needed.
[18:16] <idlemind324> so this is becoming way to difficult ... what is the equivalent to runlevel 3 in 11.04 and how do i boot to it by default?
[18:17] <MARMELADE> workspace, hotmedal, workspace
[18:17] <hotmedal> oh
[18:17] <iceroot> idlemind324: there are no runlevels in ubuntu
[18:17] <iceroot> !runlevel | idlemind324
[18:17] <usr13> valentinex: but I beg to differ, fidsk is an easy method.
[18:17] <idlemind324> iceroot ya that is why i asked for the equivalent to old school runlevel 3
[18:17] <rvdaele> is there a way to automagically save attachments from mails ?
[18:17] <MARMELADE> if i maximize windows, they mazimies on the other desktop
[18:18] <usr13> valentinex: What have you found that is hard about it?
[18:18] <nwillems> Hello there. Does anybody know what parts are needed to have a Mail Server where mails are delivered to MySQL?
[18:18] <idlemind324> iceroot, ok how do i start my  system and have just a console login ... no graphical interface (aka old runlevel 3)
[18:18] <MARMELADE> nwillems: this here is not a mysql channel #mysql
[18:18] <valentinex> usr13: commands :D
[18:19] <usr13> idlemind324: safemode or single user mode.  linux single
[18:19] <idlemind324> a multi-user option?
[18:19] <nwillems> MARMELADE: well, my question more concerns e-mailing, which I happen to know ubuntu could be good at
[18:19] <idlemind324> server does it by default
[18:19] <usr13> valentinex: Oh yea.  That's right, you'd have to use the keyboard.  That might be a difficulty ;)
[18:19] <iceroot> !nox | idlemind324
[18:19] <valentinex> :P
[18:20] <maddagaska> nwillems: Maybe #postfix ? They should be able to tell you how to configure a mail server (Postfix, specifically) to do that
[18:21] <iceroot> nwillems: zarafa is doing that by default. maybe have a look at zarafa
[18:21] <idlemind324> iceroot, i've done that and did update-grup and rebooted but i'm still getting shoved to tty7 and it starts gdm
[18:21] <hotmedal> Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-10. My compaq mini notebook does not boot ubuntu if the wifi button is off. Also, if while running, i turn the wifi button off, everything freezes.
[18:21] <iceroot> idlemind324: and grub is holding that line after a reboot?
[18:21] <vivanov> adding a line to ldconf doesnt make a program work but setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH does -> pls explain why
[18:22] <idlemind324> as far as i can tell i re-open /etc/default/grub and it still set like i had it
[18:22] <nwillems> maddagaska: sounds cool. iceroot: uhh, yeah. I'm more thinking along the lines of developing a frontend my self, so zarafa might not be it, but thanks.
[18:23] <pindropper> i installed apache and everything works great. but i am trying to figure out if mod_rewrite is enabled. how do i do this? and if it isn't how do i enable it?
[18:24] <mauro78> !list
[18:24] <UnnamedUzer> ohh...i've already studied this articles about libimobile but desktop icon doesn't appear. and i can't explore iphopne
[18:25] <idlemind324> iceroot ok last reboot the boot menu changed in appearance (no longer purple background, but now black and white) but when i loaded i was put on tty7 and just a blinking cursor ... i hit ctrl+alt+f1 and i get put on a text login like normal
[18:25] <idlemind324> i get the feeling something is still starting
[18:26] <usr13> idlemind324: put  single at end of kernel line  (in /boot/grub/grub.cfg )
[18:26] <usr13> idlemind324: ro single
[18:27] <idlemind324> do i really want to go into single user mode though?
[18:28] <idlemind324> can't i start my system with a handful of console's all text and then if i want kick off an x session?
[18:28] <theadmin> idlemind324: You could try "ro 3" for that one
[18:28] <theadmin> err..
[18:28] <theadmin> idlemind324: Sorry, forgot ubuntu abandoned runlevels
[18:28] <idlemind324> ya
[18:29] <Untitled`> hello
[18:29] <theadmin> So much for not being an ubuntu user whilst hanging out in #ubuntu huh
[18:30] <usr13> idlemind324: you want to perminately turn off the GUI?  Or just turn it off temporaraily?
[18:31] <idlemind324> usr13 turn it off permanently aka old school runlevel 3
[18:31] <Pyraine> Does anybody know anything about sound cards? specifically Realtek ALC1200 and why it would be routing all my sound to the built in sub woofer and ignoring the stereo speakers completely
[18:31] <idlemind324> ok i got somewhere
[18:32] <theadmin> idlemind324: You could remove /etc/init/gdm.conf or rename it so it doesn't end in .conf
[18:32] <idlemind324> i took quiet and splash out of grub command line in /etc/default/grub
[18:32] <usr13> idlemind324: Did you try what I said?
[18:32] <UnnamedUzer> exit
[18:32] <idlemind324> it still kicks me to tty7 by default though
[18:33] <usr13> idlemind324: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[18:33] <idlemind324> ubuntu 11.04 desktop
[18:33] <idlemind324> the ro3 command admin?
[18:34] <usr13> idlemind324: You remove all switched from the end of the kernel line and then add ro single  (in /boot/grub/grub.cfg )
[18:34] <theadmin> idlemind324: That'd work only if Ubuntu didn't abandon runlevels
[18:34] <usr13> idlemind324: ro single
[18:34] <idlemind324> right but i don't think i'm after single user mode
[18:35] <usr13> idlemind324: oh. ok then.
[18:35] <usr13> idlemind324: jsut a sec
[18:35] <danub> what is the program that i can rdp to a linux box with from a linux box?
[18:35] <idlemind324> danub: vnc
[18:35] <danub> i need to learn the new unity layout before i update my laptop so i wanna experiment with it on a VM
[18:36] <danub> idlemind324: it doesn't have vnc server installed on it
[18:36] <usr13> chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[18:36] <rvdaele> is there a keyboard shortcut to save an attachment in evolution ?
[18:36] <usr13> idlemind324: chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm  #If gdm is what youre using.
[18:36] <theadmin> usr13: That'd be "mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.DISABLED" on recent versions
[18:36] <dli> idlemind324, or ssvnc (need ssh-server and x11vnc on the remote end)
[18:37] <usr13> theadmin: Really?  Ok... Try that idlemind324
[18:37] <danub> there isn't a default remote desktop viewer in ubuntu?
[18:37] <usr13> theadmin: Probably either one will work.
[18:37] <danub> thats somewhat disappointing
[18:39] <maddagaska> Thanks for the advice, astraljava, that turned up gold.
[18:39] <idlemind324> right but is moving a startup file really the correct way to do it?
[18:39] <cypha> how do I check what package owns (/usr/bin/vi)??
[18:39] <idlemind324> what's calling that gdm conf?
[18:39] <Pyraine> 3 days in a row nobody has been able to help me :(, does noone at all know about sound cards?
[18:40] <linxeh> Pyraine: what soundcard, and what problem?
[18:40] <trism> cypha: dpkg -S $(readlink -f /usr/bin/vi)
[18:40] <cypha> thanks trism
[18:40] <usr13> Pyraine: Sure, what is your question.
[18:40] <linxeh> oh I read up. I'm guessing also configuration is wrong, or you just need to set up alsamixer incorrectly. it is possible the outputs are just muted or something
[18:41] <theadmin> cypha: you can use dpkg-query -S $(which vi)
[18:41] <Pyraine> linxeh: I'm not sure, I've tweaked around in pulseaudio and alsamixer and nothing seems to be muted.
[18:41] <theadmin> cypha: Or in your case, dpkg-query -S /usr/bin/vi
[18:42] <Pyraine> usr13: I am only getting sound through my inbuilt subwoofer on my laptop, the stereo speakers do not output audio
[18:42] <AlexDevilLX> Why i have creapy quility in ubuntu via hdmi?
[18:43] <Pyraine> linxeh: but in Windows, the sound preferences seems to detect the sub woofer and stereo speakers as two separate devices and I can only run one at a time, I don't mind losing the sub woofer, but I can't even do that on Ubuntu
[18:43] <usr13> Pyraine: alsamixer
[18:45] <Pyraine> usr13: ALSA mixer, GNOME ALSA Mixer or Alsamixergui, because I've played around with the GNOME one and never seemed to get any results
[18:46] <usr13> pareidol1a: Did you try alsamixer ?
[18:46] <usr13> Pyraine: Did you try alsamixer ?
[18:47] <Pyraine> usr13: is that in the software center? I can't find one that's called alsamixer
[18:47] <maco> Pyraine: its part of a default install and is not a separate package
[18:47] <maco> Pyraine: just type "alsamixer" in the command line
[18:47] <usr13> Pyraine: Open a terminal and type   alsamixer   and hit enter.
[18:47] <Pyraine> maco, usr13: Ah! thank you
[18:47] <markskilbeck> Yo, all! Is it possible to open windows in the workspace they were started from? For example, I have firefox open in WS1, and in WS2 I click a URL, the URL should open in FF in WS2, however, currently, it opens in WS1.
[18:47] <Pyraine> usr13: I will check it now
[18:48] <JasFasolka> When using VLC media player, video isn't really synchronized with the audio ... it looks kinda slowed or something. In Totem it works ok ... what could be wrong?
[18:48] <usr13> Pyraine: First, see that the correct sound card is listed at top left.  Then see what channels may be muted or turned down.
[18:49] <cypha> anyone here have Vim installed?
[18:49] <trism> cypha: many people I imagine, what is your question?
[18:49] <Pyraine> usr13: the listed card is HDA Intel, the chip is Realtek ALC1200, there is only one channel for speakers and only the Mic and Mic Boost channels are turned down
[18:50] <edbian> markskilbeck: That's firefox doing that.
[18:50] <cypha> trism, did you uninstall Vi when you installed Vim?
[18:50] <usr13> JasFasolka: mplayer and totem have keys that will advance or retard video independently, I think it is 9 and 0 or + and -  don't rememeber for sure.  I think vlc has something similar
[18:50] <edbian> markskilbeck: I don't think there is a way to fix it.  Maybe firefox --no-remote URL  has a workaround?
[18:50] <mystiqueba> how do I extract file.tar.gz to another_folder/
[18:50] <usr13> mystiqueba: man tar
[18:50] <trism> cypha: the vi available in ubuntu is vim, just a symbolic link to it
[18:51] <JasFasolka> Well, but it's not a problem with a video but with VLC. I'd like to know why it screws up my video.
[18:51] <cypha> trism, someone told me not to use vim-tiny: /usr/bin/vim.tiny
[18:51] <mystiqueba> usr13, man tar file.tar.gz another_file/ ??
[18:52] <theadmin> mystiqueba: tar xf file.tar.gz -C /path/to/folder
[18:52] <trism> cypha: yes, if you plan on using vim, you should probably install the full package, vim-tiny is a small stripped down version that is installed by default
[18:52] <cypha> oh ok
[18:52] <cypha> that makes sense
[18:52] <TBotNik> All: Trying to debug a little bash script.  Have PB at: http://pastebin.com/Pn5Mw4gA.  Would appreciate the help.  Thanks
[18:52] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: in update manager there are some updates from voria.org ppa is it safe to install them?
[18:52] <cypha> trism, the reason being that everything is weird with it
[18:52] <cypha> not even the arrow keys work
[18:52] <cypha> they add letters
[18:53] <mystiqueba> theadmin, it worked like magic!  thanks a lot
[18:54] <trism> cypha: yes, vim-tiny doesn't have all the nice features of vim, just: sudo apt-get install vim; and you should be good
[18:54] <theadmin> mystiqueba: To see help on almost any command, you can use "man COMMAND" or "info command", e.g. "man tar"
[18:54] <cypha> trism, do you think vim-gtk is better?
[18:54] <theadmin> cypha: Only if you need the GUI version
[18:54] <nothingspecial> TBotNik: where does it fail? You knoe you should quote your variables? Pitfall no 1
[18:54] <nothingspecial> know
[18:54] <oCean> TBotNik: I have not scanned the entire script, but start with this: http://pastebin.com/w3nfHmyi
[18:55] <Pyraine> usr13: so yeah alsamixer doesn't seem to give a solution you don't think it could be a driver issue? have you heard of anything like this before?
[18:55] <mystiqueba> theadmin, thanks.  I just didn't know which command to use then
[18:55] <cypha> will installing vim replace vim-tiny?
[18:55] <cypha> or do I have to uninstall that?
[18:55] <TBotNik> All: Put my error in the PB as well so you can follow along, Thanks!
[18:55] <trism> cypha: you don't have to uninstall vim-tiny, it will just update the links when you install vim
[18:55] <oCean> TBotNik: wait, not quite there yet
[18:55] <hotmedal> Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-10. My compaq mini notebook does not boot ubuntu if the wifi button is off. Also, if while running, i turn the wifi button off, everything freezes.
[18:56] <doug_f> Gents how would you guys troubleshoot a could not allocate memory error that randomly shows up when the system is locked/not in use?
[18:56] <jrib> Pyraine: you can choose your device in pavucontrol or paman
[18:56] <Pyraine> jrib: are they packages I need to download?
[18:56] <oCean> TBotNik: see this: http://pastebin.com/6p0fjPcd
[18:57] <cypha> trism, do you use vim-gtk as well or just vim?
[18:57] <jrib> Pyraine: if you don't already have them installed, yeah...
[18:57] <cypha> cuz I've been using gedit for a gui editor
[18:57] <trism> cypha: yes I use both
[18:57] <mark__> IsshoNI
[18:57] <TBotNik> oCean: Thanks!
[18:57] <trism> cypha: but I use gedit too
[18:57] <oCean> TBotNik: welcome
[18:58] <TBotNik> BRB  checking things out and re-running
[18:58] <cypha> trism, how do you choose?
[18:58] <cypha> whether to use vim-gtk or gedit, that is
[18:58] <trism> cypha: depends on what I'm editing, just personal preference, you need to figure that out yourself
[18:58] <StrangeyD> hi can i get some help regarding post installation of ubuntu
[18:58] <cypha> trism, if I get vim-gtk, that includes the normal CL vim too, right?
[18:58] <trism> cypha: yes
[18:58] <nothingspecial> TBotNik: should still quote your variables
[18:59] <jrib> StrangeyD: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[18:59] <StrangeyD> ok thx
[18:59] <cypha> wow, 37.3 MB
[18:59] <cypha> so much for lightweight
[18:59] <cypha> like microsoft word
[19:00] <trism> cypha: that's why only vim-tiny is installed by default
[19:00] <theadmin> cypha: I think Word weighs much more
[19:00] <cypha> yeah, but it's still heavy for a mostly CL editor
[19:00] <Galindar> Hello all. Im having a problem with Ubuntu 11.04. I recently upgraded and kept getting "Out Of Range" error on reboots but the OS would still load after 10seconds or so. Now,, I just get the "Out Of Range" error and the OS will NOT load no matter how long i wait. I have read on the net that using CTRL+ALT+Numpad+ or Numpad- can change the screen resolution allowing the OS to boot. This Does NOT work for me. I have also tried
[19:00] <Galindar> Holding SHIFT to reach the Grub. I get "Grub Loading..." message and then i get the "Out Of Range" error. any other suggestions? please help..
[19:01] <cypha> how do I choose to run a file with vim-gtk?
[19:01] <StrangeyD> I have installed ubuntu on a Dell Inpiron Mini 910 notbook, after i installed using usb the computer wont boot from the SD card which it uses for storage, it just stated that no operating system is found
[19:01] <trism> cypha: gvim /path/to/file
[19:01] <trism> cypha: or from nautilus, Open with Gvim text editor
[19:02] <theadmin> cypha: To "run" the current file in Vim, you can probably use :!% if that's what you mean
[19:02] <Pyraine> jrib: no dice, i didn't realise pavucontrol was pulse, i'd used that before and it only gives me another option which is the HDMI audio which I'm assuming is the HDMI out port on the back
[19:02] <theadmin> cypha: i.e. execute.
[19:02] <jrib> Pyraine: what does « aplay -l » return?
[19:03] <cypha> trism, cool, gvim
[19:03] <berto-> i'm looking to get 11.04 on the new macbook air; the biggest issue right now is a graphics driver for the intel HD 3000; any clues on where to get it?
[19:04] <Pyraine> jrib: http://pastebin.com/pWF2T3mx
[19:06] <jrib> Pyraine: I see some other people having a similar issue.  What laptop is this?
[19:06] <Pyraine> Advent 8555gx
[19:06] <TBotNik> All: Added all the suggestion and reran the script.  PB with errors at: http://pastebin.com/index/6p0fjPcd
[19:07] <Pyraine> the only thing I can find on google are my own threads on ubuntuforums and linuxquestions which both went unanswered
[19:07] <mina2> i install jdk by setting chmod +x on the .bin file and it completed, however when i type java and javac ubuntu asks me to use apt-get. how can i make it understand the java and javac programs that i just installed
[19:07] <Pyraine> jrib: Advent 8555gx
[19:07] <Pyraine> jrib: the
[19:07] <theadmin> mina2: Add the folder you installed java to to your $PATH.
[19:07] <Pyraine> jrib: e only thing I can find on google are my own threads on ubuntuforums and linuxquestions which both went unanswered
[19:07] <theadmin> mina2: It's best to use apt though, indeedly
[19:07] <Galindar> be back, trying something
[19:08] <mina2> i am installing it to several pcs that are not on a network
[19:08] <doug_f> Gents how would you guys troubleshoot a "could not allocate memory error"?
[19:08] <theadmin> doug_f: Get more RAM or swap space
[19:09] <iceroot> doug_f: 1. see if there is enough free space, if so use memtest
[19:09] <mina2> theadmin: how can i set the path persistently across reboots
[19:09] <jrib> Pyraine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1255723 are trying some things.  If you're willing to research their suggestions and understand what they do, might give you some things to try
[19:09] <theadmin> mina2: Your ~/.profile I *think*
[19:09] <jrib> Pyraine: I would not recommend blindly copying what is suggested there however
[19:09] <doug_f> iceroot, memtest ran over the weekend and no problems were found in the 8Gig of ram.
[19:10] <mina2> let me see
[19:10] <theadmin> mina2: Or you could always use your .bashrc, after all bash is the only place where $PATH matters
[19:10]  * theadmin uses zsh tho
[19:10]  * theadmin has to use .zshrc, but we're talking about a typical setup right
[19:10] <oCean> TBotNik: I think you just pasted the wrong PB link. But I think that your script this way is easier: http://pastebin.com/PwM0Zpjq
[19:10] <iceroot> doug_f: and there is enough free space?
[19:11] <Pyraine> jrib: thanks, I mean that's the closest I've seen to someone having a similar problem as me. I don't know anything about soundcards so I'll be extra cautious
[19:11] <doug_f> theadmin, the problem happens when there is little activity on the system. IE locked while I go to the rest room.
[19:11] <theadmin> doug_f: IE? I think it's best to use Firefox or Opera or Chrome... don't use IE on Linux
[19:11] <jrib> Pyraine: note pavucontrol's last tab has some configuration options you might try too.  I don't really know much about sound to help you much.  (I saw alsamixer was not very fruitful)
[19:11] <oCean> TBotNik: in this case you only have to redirect the output once
[19:12] <doug_f> iceroot, The system is locked up and I was unable to login from the VTY console.
[19:12] <iceroot> doug_f: ssh
[19:12] <doug_f> theadmin, not IE Just for example.
[19:12] <iceroot> doug_f: open a ssh session and have a look at "top"
[19:13] <iceroot> doug_f: also see /var/log/syslog
[19:13] <dli> Pyraine, what problem?
[19:13] <theadmin> doug_f: Ah.
[19:13] <doug_f> iceroot, I will try that. Is syslog rewritten when the system reboots? Is there a way to make it more verbose?
[19:13] <Pyraine> jrib: thanks a lot, I tried the last tab with pavu, that also didn't seem to help unfortunately
[19:13] <theadmin> doug_f: Hmm, well, I dunno, maybe your power management tool does some weirdness
[19:13] <Pyraine> dli: I have a laptop with a subwoofer and stereo speakers
[19:13] <iceroot> doug_f: /var/log/syslog is perm
[19:14] <Pyraine> dli: but only the subwoofer is producing audio
[19:14] <doug_f> iceroot, thanks.
[19:14] <flecha> Hello! Is there a "testing" repository in Ubuntu?
[19:14] <jpds> flecha: No.
[19:15] <flecha> so the standard repo is already de most bleeding edge?
[19:15] <theadmin> flecha: No, Ubuntu is crazy about stability
[19:15] <jpds> flecha: No, the unstable, development release is that.
[19:15] <theadmin> flecha: Switch to Arch like I did and get the bleeding edge :D
[19:15] <flecha> haha
[19:15] <flecha> I use Arch too =)
[19:16] <flecha> but I could not compile a software there, so I switched to Ubuntu for development
[19:16] <theadmin> flecha: Huh. I never could compile anything on Ubuntu, on Arch though just pacman -S base-devel
[19:16] <Aegir> Aegir verlaat u (HasQuit)
[19:17] <flecha> theadmin, yes, I prefer Arch too =P
[19:18] <jnsl_> is there a gui to convert permissions to octal ? or a script maybe
[19:18] <th0r> jnsl_: it is only counting to seven
[19:18] <flecha> jpds, How do I activate unstable?
[19:18] <jnsl_> drwxr-sr-x ...makes no sense to me :p
[19:19] <TBotNik> All: I set in the line echo "$pathname$filename";  and it is coming back blank, which is why the file is not writing.  Any ideas why it is blank?
[19:19] <iceroot> jnsl_: but 744?
[19:19] <oCean> TBotNik: you're not trying my script?
[19:19] <th0r> jnsl_: User, Group, and All. Read, Write and Execute 4, 2 and 1
[19:20] <jpds> flecha: update-manager -d and #ubuntu+1 .
[19:20] <iridium> jnsl_, that seems to be 2744
[19:20] <leo_> HOLA ALGUIEN DE MEXICO
[19:21] <flecha> jpds, ty! =)
[19:23] <jnsl_> ok then tell me why is the "S" big on some of the files? eg. drwxr-Sr drwxr-sr
[19:24] <iceroot> jnsl_: never saw a big S
[19:24] <jnsl_> jnsl_ ok so i might have found my issue :-P
[19:25] <aetas> jnsl_, suid
[19:26] <KimK> I loaded a bad ppa and now Synaptic only starts long enough to report the error. How can I edit the repo list with Synaptic closed?
[19:27] <genii-around> S=setuid/setgid but not executable   s=setuid/setgid and also executable
[19:27] <djskidd> freenode
[19:27] <jnsl_> ahh i see thanks guys
[19:27] <th0r> KimK: /etc/apt/sources.list?
[19:27] <djskidd> xChat
[19:27] <iceroot> KimK: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:27] <iceroot> KimK: there should be a files called like the ppa. remove that file
[19:28] <KimK> th0r, iceroot: Thanks, I'll try it and let you know shortly.
[19:29] <TBotNik> All: Updated PB at: ttp://pastebin.com/0Gstr5m3
[19:30] <iceroot> TBotNik: dont do crosspostings in #bash and #ubuntu please
[19:31] <klevison> after run virtual box, I cant open my bluray drive, why?
[19:31] <oCean> TBotNik: also, the script I showed you works. Just compare them, and correct yours
[19:31] <iceroot> klevison: vbox still running then?
[19:32] <klevison> iceroot, I dont know
[19:32] <klevison> I'm newbie
[19:32] <iceroot> klevison: if you close virtualbox can you access the drive again?
[19:32] <klevison> iceroot, no
[19:33] <iceroot> klevison: without starting vbox you can access the drive?
[19:34] <klevison> iceroot, yeah
[19:35] <klevison> iceroot, is there a special config to install w7 64b into virtualbox?
[19:35] <iceroot> klevison: are you using the drive inside vbox for something? the problem is vbox is locking the drive and only one app can use it
[19:35] <TBotNik> Thanks all, got it, was the spaces aroung the equal "=" signs, Thanks again!!
[19:35] <iceroot> klevison: you just have to enable vt-x and if i am correct your ubuntu-installation has to be amd64 too
[19:36] <iceroot> klevison: but vt-x should be enabled by default in vbox
[19:37] <iter> hi all, trying to upgrade a dapper box to edgy, getting 404's... I've edited sources.list to point to old-releases but do-release-upgrade still fails with the 'getting prerequisites failed' error. /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log has 404's in it for archive.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <iter> I tried just putting old-releases IP as archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/hosts but no joy
[19:38] <ThinkT510> iter: both of those are no longer supported
[19:38] <KimK> th0r, iceroot: That worked, Synaptic is back, thanks!
[19:38] <iter> hardy is still LTS supported
[19:38] <iceroot> !eol | iter
[19:38] <iceroot> iter: last link
[19:38] <iter> yes I have read that
[19:39] <iter> it appears do-release-upgrade still points to archive.ubuntu.com and not old-releases so it blows up
[19:39] <iter> I can do it the debian way and just change it to hardy in sources.list but I would rather do it the 'right' way with do-release-upgrade
[19:40] <iter> sorry I just realise I said edgy and not hardy in my initial question
[19:40] <iceroot> iter: yes because do-release-upgrade is executing post and preup scripts
[19:40] <iter> the upshot of my question is "what is the right way to go dapper to hardy" now that dapper is EOL
[19:41] <iter> I can do it the debian way but I just wonder if there is a ubuntu way to handle it
[19:41] <tyrone> Hi people, noob question, how do I reset unity to all the default settings?
[19:41] <inimesekene> Hello
[19:42] <Wavesonics> huh, i just installed sendmail, and now I'm getting 403s on all my virtual hosts, any idea why that would be?
[19:42] <inimesekene> where's the mouse acceleration info stored in Gnome/Unity?
[19:42] <iceroot> Wavesonics: sounds like .htaccess
[19:42] <iceroot> Wavesonics: or the owner changed
[19:42] <iter> no answers?
[19:43] <inimesekene> need to delete that, beacause I don't like my custom settings anymore
[19:43] <iceroot> Wavesonics: /var/log/apache2/error.log should show what went wrong
[19:43] <iter> I can't be the only person with this problem, there are a ton of old dapper machines out there still
[19:43] <FunnyLookinHat> I'm using the Monitor Preferences screen to setup my external monitor on my laptop - but I don't see any options to get my gnome panels and whatnot to be on the external monitor instead of the internal...   any suggestions?
[19:43] <vlt> Hello. Can anyone help me with compiling linux, please?
[19:43] <iceroot> iter: so the problem is that the update manager is not reading your changes in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[19:43] <vlt> I just cloned a xen/stable-2.6.32.x repo. What do I need to do next to get an x86_64 xen dom0 kernel?
[19:43] <iceroot> vlt: ##linux
[19:43] <iceroot> vlt: and #xen
[19:43] <iter> do-release-upgrade has a logfile
[19:44] <vlt> iceroot: Thanks.
[19:44] <iter> I will pastebin it one sec
[19:44] <cypha> how can I make the scrollbar less annoying?
[19:44] <cypha> I want it to become visible sooner
[19:44] <cypha> and when approaching a window from the left side of the right border, and on the right side of the right border (it currently only shows up when approaching from the left side of the right border)
[19:44] <iter> http://pastebin.com/1kGeNNcL
[19:44] <FunnyLookinHat> I found that I can set it with "xrandr --output HDMI1 --primary" - but I'd like to automate it :)
[19:45] <redfox> has someone be able to use ubuntu in a windows domain so that passwords get synchronized?
[19:45] <Chaser> Any work arounds to have evolution connect to exchange server ? I am hitting bug #25106 it was marked as expired.
[19:45] <Wavesonics> iceroot, owner hasnt changed. hmm... i did change something from / to /home, cant remember where it was though :(
[19:46] <ThinkT510> iter: why didn't you update when dapper was supported?
[19:46] <iceroot> Chaser: if it still affects you reopen the bug with details
[19:46] <iter> ThinkT510: not my machine, thanks for asking
[19:47] <Chaser> iceroot, cool will do it thanks.
[19:47] <ThinkT510> iter: its my guess that the url it is pointing to no longer exists
[19:48] <iter> ThinkT510: thanks, I got that from the 404 error
[19:48] <iter> the question is how to do this upgrade the ubuntu way
[19:48] <wildbat> ThinkT510: may be DL the CD and update from there
[19:48] <iter> I tried just forcing archive to the old-releases ip via /etc/hosts but that did not work
[19:49] <iridium> any good iptables manual out there?
[19:49] <ThinkT510> wildbat: what cd? dapper?
[19:50] <FunnyLookinHat> iridium, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo  ??  :D
[19:50] <iceroot> iridium: man iptables
[19:50] <FunnyLookinHat> iridium, truth be told, I use Firestarter on a desktop - otherwise I just copy other configs that I've done in the past.  :)
[19:50] <sounddontwork> i installed ubuntu10.10, it doesnt seem to make MIDI of my soundcard work
[19:50] <Wavesonics> oh boy i messed something up good...
[19:51] <mynameisdeleted> atrix 4g webtop adaptor for android is appearantly an ubuntu-based linux distro for arm.. anyone tried it and compared its performance to ubuntu on an x86 laptop?
[19:51] <sounddontwork> i can play mp3 though
[19:51] <wildbat> ThinkT510: no, the next LTS
[19:51] <sounddontwork> how can i make the MIDI sequencer of my sound card available?
[19:51] <iridium> just what I was looking for, thank you both :)
[19:51] <ThinkT510> wildbat: did you look at his log?
[19:51] <mynameisdeleted> anyone know how ubuntu performance might compare between dual-core arm processor and powerpc processor and laptop intel procesor?
[19:51] <sounddontwork> i have realtek HDA audio*
[19:52] <sounddontwork> hello can anyone help please
[19:53] <iceroot> mynameisdeleted: ##hardware  because the cpu speed is more a hardware-question then an ubuntu question
[19:54] <hwilde> why did my audio stop working today!%!%
[19:54] <xelister> hi, what to install to provide more debug information to like:
[19:54] <xelister> 0x00007f25924f918b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0
[19:54] <xelister> hwilde: trolololo
[19:55] <hwilde> did some update today break audio support ?
[19:55] <sounddontwork> hello can anyone help MIDI work on my realtek HDA audio chip using ubuntu10.10
[19:56] <biami> what is the channel for gcc?
[19:57] <cypha> how do you switch back to X from ctrl+alt+f1?
[19:57] <hwilde> ctrl+alt+f7
[19:57] <FunnyLookinHat> cypha, f7
[19:57] <hwilde> did some update today break audio support ?
[19:57] <biami> how do i set up openGL in gcc?
[19:57] <cypha> thanks!
[19:58] <sounddontwork> my midi doesnt work
[19:58] <FunnyLookinHat> hwilde, Try this in a console: "ubuntu-bug audio"
[19:58] <sounddontwork> helpppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[19:58] <FunnyLookinHat> hwilde, should help troubleshoot :D
[19:58] <ThinkT510> !help | sounddontwork
[19:59] <sounddontwork> well i installed ubuntu10.10. audio plays but the MIDI sequencer of my audio chip realtek hda audio doesnt function
[19:59] <hwilde> wtf it worked yesterday and this morning
[20:00] <FunnyLookinHat> ThinkT510, hey - You don't have nVidia Optimus graphics by any chance, do you ?
[20:00] <hwilde> now it says   "You don't seem to have configured PulseAudio to use the card you want output from (Internal Audio - HDA Intel).  You can fix that using pavucontrol or the GNOME volume control"
[20:00] <sounddontwork> ThinkT510 and ubottu did you read my question
[20:00] <FunnyLookinHat> ThinkT510, Trying to get bumblebee to work - it disabled my nVidia fine, but optirun doesn't seem to like my current config...  :D
[20:00] <th0r> hwilde: did you try that?
[20:00] <ThinkT510> FunnyLookinHat: not that i'm aware of: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [NVS 3100M] (rev a2)
[20:00] <FunnyLookinHat> hwilde, Click the sound icon at the top, then click Preferenecs
[20:01] <FunnyLookinHat> hwilde, Choose the correct output device - it got switched somehow it seems.
[20:01] <FunnyLookinHat> hwilde, Happens every once in a while
[20:01] <FunnyLookinHat> ThinkT510, Ah ok  :D
[20:01] <hwilde> why the F did that change during an update
[20:01] <th0r> another whiner
[20:02] <noman> I have a fresh install of 11.04 on my DM3 HP Notebook. Unfortunately, the graphics don't work and neither does the mic in Skype. I tried installing the ATi driver from ATI's site using sh installer.run but the graphics are still choppy and laggy and it is evident the driver isn't working. I would really appreciate any help regarding this. Thank you.
[20:03] <FunnyLookinHat> !ati | noman
[20:04] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, Try following the instructions there?  Your best bet would be to install drivers from the repositories rather than trying to configure them yourself...  Also - make sure you restart X for the changes to go into effect.
[20:06] <noman> FunnyLookinHat, iM using the properitary driver under ADDITIONAL DRIVERS and its currently active
[20:06] <noman> FunnyLookinHat, I have rebooted several times, do I still have to restart X?
[20:06] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, Ah strange - and you're still getting very bad performance?   Have you restarted X since activating?  Sometimes that can display screwy statuses (i.e. active when it's not)
[20:07] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, Oh no
[20:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Rebooting restarts X.
[20:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Hmm
[20:07] <noman> It's really choppy and laggy
[20:07] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, Give me a sec...
[20:07] <noman> FunnyLookinHat, Thank you.
[20:08] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, Can you visit this page and select your specific graphics card to verify that fglrx supports it ?  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[20:08] <noman> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[20:08] <noman> let me check
[20:09] <noman> FunnyLookinHat, Yup, that's the driver that I have.
[20:10] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, And you're on 64bit or 32 ?
[20:10] <noman> 32
[20:10] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, Hmm ok
[20:11] <nicofs> I try to install libc6 but all i get is "dpkg: error processing libc6" - can anyone help?
[20:11] <VolodymyrB> hi, is there /etc/init.d log?
[20:12] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, Well - you could try de-activating through the "Additional Drivers" tool and then installing this tool: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[20:12] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, wait
[20:13] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, Can you run this in a terminal and tell me what it says ?   fglrxinfo
[20:13] <FunnyLookinHat> via pastebin please
[20:13] <noman> FunnyLookinHat, I tried that first because I had no properitary drivers appearing before. When I installed that, X wouldnt start so I uninstalled that and rebooted and voila I could see properitary drivers which I activated but it was no use
[20:13] <noman> ATI something something
[20:13] <noman> with all details
[20:13] <FunnyLookinHat> noman, ah ok.
[20:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Well...
[20:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Then it's "working"
[20:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Sadly.
[20:14] <FunnyLookinHat> You might be better off disabling and running w/ the open source driver instead.
[20:14] <noman> how do I do that?
[20:15] <edbian> noman: what card do you have?
[20:15] <chilversc> does chromium not support webm out of the box?
[20:15] <edbian> noman: What driver are you currently using?
[20:16] <noman> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[20:16] <noman> ATI catalyst properitary driver from ADDITIONAL DRIVERS
[20:16] <noman> which I just removed, by the way
[20:16] <edbian> noman: Alright, for the record I think the additional drivers tool is buggy and confusing.
[20:16] <edbian> noman: You removed the driver?
[20:16] <noman> From the Additional Drivers tool, yes
[20:17] <edbian> noman: let's try using the open source driver?
[20:17] <edbian> noman: sudo apt-get install xorg-xserver-video-radeon
[20:17] <noman> okay, how do I do that?
[20:17] <noman> just a second
[20:17] <chilversc> yeah, the additional drivers thing kept breaking ubuntu for me when ever I activated the nvidia driver
[20:17] <edbian> noman: sure
[20:17] <edbian> chilversc: It is buggy at best
[20:17] <noman> edbian, Unable to locate that package
[20:18] <edbian> noman: Yeah, I guessed at the name and guessed wrong.
[20:18] <FunnyLookinHat> edbian, Ah thanks for helping noman - went AFK for a bit - gonna have to be AFK a while longer...  good luck noman
[20:18] <FunnyLookinHat> :D
[20:18] <chilversc> edbian: sure, but then it really shouldn't have "[recommended]" by it :)
[20:18] <edbian> noman: It's xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[20:18] <noman> FunnyLookinHat, Thanks :D
[20:18] <edbian> FunnyLookinHat: sure
[20:18] <edbian> chilversc: I don't think the driver is at fault.  Just the tool :P
[20:18] <edbian> noman: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=radeon&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[20:18] <noman> edbian, it says it's already the newest version
[20:18] <edbian> noman: That's how I found the name.
[20:18] <krise> hi
[20:18] <krise> how to fix subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[20:18] <chilversc> ah, still, it doesn't make for a great first introduction to ubuntu to have it promptly destroy itself :)
[20:18] <edbian> noman: great, sudo apt-get purge fglrx  (that removes the proprietary driver)
[20:19] <edbian> noman: Is this machine online right now?
[20:19] <noman> edbian, yes, this is the one
[20:19] <edbian> noman: can you pastebin the output of lsmod and sudo lspci -k for me?
[20:19] <noman> edbian, just a second please
[20:20] <wols_> krise: check the actual error and fix that
[20:20] <edbian> noman: After I have the pastebin and you've purged fglrx then reboot.  What are the symptoms we're experiencing that are making us switch drivers anyway?
[20:20] <edbian> noman: waiting...
[20:20] <DrGrov> Evening
[20:20] <noman> edbian, Its laggy and choppy like there is no display driver :(
[20:20] <noman> http://pastebin.com/UHzacGK4
[20:20] <DrGrov> Is it possible to get LibreOffice on 10.04?
[20:21] <DrGrov> Or am I stuck with OpenOffice?
[20:21] <edbian> noman: ok, I think we'll notice an immediate change then.
[20:21] <edbian> noman: reading...
[20:21] <iceroot> DrGrov: a ppa should provide libreoffice or the backports
[20:21] <noman> edbian, and http://pastebin.com/hrUCnVn5
[20:21] <noman> thank you :)
[20:21] <edbian> noman: reading...
[20:21] <DrGrov> iceroot: Can I have both OpenOffice and LibreOffice installed at the same time?
[20:22] <iceroot> DrGrov: why?
[20:22] <edbian> noman: You are indeed using fglrx (additional drivers didn't lie :) )
[20:22] <iceroot> DrGrov: thats like installing iceweasel and firefox
[20:22] <DrGrov> iceroot: I would like to test LibreOffice out first to see whether it is better than OpenOffice
[20:22] <DrGrov> iceroot: I like to have both installed. Is that possible or not?
[20:22] <iceroot> DrGrov: libreoffice is better because its real free software instead of openoffice
[20:23] <noman> edbian, I clicked REMOVE in Additional Drivers and now it says its not active. PURGING says 0 removed etc. etc. and said do an 'autoremove' and so I did.
[20:23] <wols_> DrGrov: on linux, it hasn't been openoffice for a long time, it always was openoffice+GoOO patches. and now that is called libreoffice
[20:23] <DrGrov> iceroot: But my question still remains. Can I have them installed both at the same time or not?
[20:23] <edbian> noman: ok.
[20:23] <edbian> noman: restart
[20:23] <iceroot> DrGrov: i dont know
[20:23] <DrGrov> wols_: Ah ok, I mainly thinking since I might recommend it for my better half on her Macbook as well.
[20:23] <wols_> DrGrov: you can. if you can have them both installed from .deb packages is another matter
[20:23] <iceroot> DrGrov: normally it should work but maybe the packages have a "conflict" set to each other
[20:24] <Polah> DrGrov: Yes, most likely. I can't think of why they would conflict.
[20:24] <noman> edbian, okay, brb
[20:24] <edbian> noman: waiting...
[20:24] <DrGrov> wols_: Ok, thanks. I might test it. Can always just remove one of them if there is a conflict.
[20:24] <wols_> DrGrov: mac users hate openoffice. a lot. I don't even think there is a proper version of it for OSX. openoffice or libreoffice both
[20:24] <DrGrov> iceroot: Great, that is what I was thinking about. A conflict I have no time for right now :)
[20:24] <wols_> DrGrov: for OSX there is NeoOffice
[20:24] <DrGrov> Polah: Ok, I will give it a go.
[20:25] <DrGrov> wols_: My better half does like OpenOffice but definitely I will change it for her since it is acting up and not really optimal in any aspect. It is ok but nothing more.
[20:25] <iceroot> DrGrov: "conflicts" in a debian package doesnt mean destroying anything or crashing
[20:26] <DrGrov> iceroot: Ah, I see. I always had an issue with "conflicts" meaning that it just breaks down and refuses to work :(
[20:26] <iceroot> DrGrov: no
[20:26] <wols_> if it conflicts, it usually doesn't even install unless you force it very hard
[20:26] <DrGrov> wols_: What does NeoOffice provide? Can it provide enough for university studies and what that requires in terms of usability? Spreadsheets, word editor and presentation maker?
[20:27] <iceroot> DrGrov: e.g. conflicts : libreoffice   means that openoffice cant be installed together with libreoffice, so openoffice will remove libreoffice first. its a debhelper-method
[20:27] <DrGrov> wols_: I like to force things :)
[20:27] <DrGrov> iceroot: Ah, I am enlightened now :) So one removes the other if there is issues?
[20:27] <DrGrov> iceroot: Roger that :)
[20:27] <iceroot> DrGrov: if the field "conflicts" is set, yes
[20:28] <noman> edbian, Appears to be slightly better than before but nothing too much :.
[20:28] <DrGrov> iceroot: That should be set automatically yes even if I use a PPA for LibreOffice?
[20:28] <edbian> noman: run glxgears
[20:28] <edbian> noman: Does it run?
[20:28] <iceroot> DrGrov: depending on the package
[20:28] <edbian> noman: Can you see new pastebins of lspci -k and lsmod ?
[20:28] <edbian> noman: You can put them in onepastebin together if it's easier
[20:28] <jason_> So, I've got an EC2 instance that refuses to boot due to the kernel not being shared publicly anymore.  Any attempt to use a different kernel results in an unreachable instance, any one run into this in the past?
[20:28] <DrGrov> iceroot: Ok, so an official LibreOffice PPA set from Ubuntu Tweak can be regarded as a "safe" PPA?
[20:29] <jaybee_> Is scsiadd available in 11.04? Or is there a different program that does the same?
[20:29] <milen8204> I have tried to install Ubuntu 11.04 and an error occurs
[20:29] <iceroot> !info scsiadd
[20:29] <noman> edbian, Yup, glxgears is running. Let me post pastebins
[20:29] <edbian> noman: sure...
[20:29] <tfdev> Hey all, installed ubuntu about a week ago (first time linux user) and it seems that on occasion my audio device will be "dropped". From system settings, I noticed that im using "dummy output" wat do?
[20:29] <iceroot> DrGrov: sorry dont know if it is a safe ressource
[20:30] <iceroot> DrGrov: save == official supported
[20:30] <tfdev> I would think I need to get drivers, but have noooo idea how to do it
[20:30] <milen8204> uncompression  error
[20:30] <noman> edbian, http://pastebin.com/gHxSnBEi
[20:30] <rhino> Hi. When I try to update grub, it says - error: cannot stat 'aufs'. Help!
[20:30] <edbian> tfdev: come in, see this, wat do?
[20:30] <yoyoned> tfdev: what kind of sound device
[20:31] <noman> edbian, http://pastebin.com/hriPkyJT
[20:31] <tfdev> yoyoned: its an integrated sound card. My notebook was the Asus k60ij. I was running win7 for the longest time
[20:31] <tfdev> yoyoned: everything i looked for online gives no details about the card itself
[20:31] <edbian> noman: we are definitely now using the radeon driver, before we were definitely using fgrlx (proprietary driver)
[20:31] <DrGrov> iceroot: No worries, I will test to see whether it works or not. Trial by error is a proven method :)
[20:31] <tfdev> edbian: how do you do?
[20:33] <rhino> Hi. When I try to update grub, it says - error: cannot stat 'aufs'. Help!
[20:33] <noman> edbian, Great. Is there anything else I can do to make it better?
[20:33] <DrGrov> iceroot: It says with Ubuntu Tweak when I go into Source Center that the LibreOffice PPA is "LibreOffice test builds and backports".
[20:33] <DrGrov> iceroot: Should that be a good one to try?
[20:33] <rhino> Something about sector 32 and 33 being used by flexnet, whatever that is.
[20:34] <edbian> noman: I don't think so :(
[20:34] <edbian> noman: ask for more detail in #radeon
[20:34] <jaybee_> iceroot, any ideas?
[20:40] <tfdev> edbian: hey I dont suppose you have any tips to get my audio hardware device recognized by ubuntu?
[20:42] <Rockstar88> hi
[20:42] <Rockstar88> evening people
[20:43] <coz_> hey
[20:43] <Rockstar88> i was wondering whether they give courses for ubuntu
[20:43] <smad> What isc polish canal ubuntu ?
[20:43] <coz_> Rockstar88,  ah I believe there are certification courses
[20:43] <coz_> smad,  that's a new one on me
[20:43] <Rockstar88> thanks coz_`, do u know where i can find it
[20:43] <coz_> Rockstar88,  hold on let me check
[20:44] <mina2> let me repeat. i installed ubuntu 10.10. the MIDI synthesizer of my soundcard doesnt work. my soundcard chip is Realtek HDA Audio as shown under Windows. How can I make the MIDI system work?
[20:44] <smad> coza_ what?
[20:44] <coz_> Rockstar88,    http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training
[20:44] <Rockstar88> thanks coz_, let me have a look
[20:45] <rpay424> is there any way to recreate a private from a public key for SSH?
[20:45] <p01son> yep
[20:45] <mina2> hello
[20:45] <j3roth> mina2: Have you tried using 11.04?
[20:46] <smad> Jest tu jakiś polak ??
[20:46] <Pici> !pl | smad
[20:46] <j3roth> rpay424:No, that would make private keys useless.
[20:46] <smad> thenks
[20:46] <p01son> mina2 , use synaptic pacage manager
[20:46] <rpay424> j3roth: k, thanks
[20:46] <lonix> good night folks
[20:46] <j3roth> rpay424:Np
[20:47] <Rockstar88> coz_, am a begginer but wanna know more, not sure which e learning is better for me ?
[20:47] <coz_> Rockstar88,  you mean from that link?
[20:48] <Rockstar88> yes coz_
[20:48] <coz_> Rockstar88,  I would read through the course descriptions first,, then decide if e learning is bettfor you or not
[20:49] <p01son> rock.. , if you wanna learn anything about open source  take one of gnu/linux distros :D
[20:49] <sgrier> Rockstar88: Try the LPI courses http://lpi.org/eng/training__1
[20:49] <coz_> Rockstar88,  the only problem I see is that most of the courses are held in europe most particularly Great britain
[20:49] <coz_> unfortunate
[20:49] <Rockstar88> i am in uk
[20:49] <Rockstar88> so its ok
[20:49] <Monotoko> hmmm...amsn vid chat isn't working...does anyone how I can do video chat in MSN on Linux? :)
[20:49] <Rockstar88> cant seem to find anytthing in uk
[20:49] <coz_> Rockstar88,  ah ok then you are a big step ahead
[20:50] <sgrier> Rockstar88: The LPI courses are distro neutral
[20:50] <p01son> monotoko have you tried wine
[20:51] <Monotoko> p01son, Windows Live Messenger doesn't work in wine...I checked the appDB
[20:51] <Rockstar88> sgrier - thats good
[20:51] <Rockstar88> is it in uk, sgrier
[20:51] <p01son> what distro you are using
[20:51] <DrGrov> Well, I shall be strangely amused about this
[20:52] <sgrier> Rockstar88: yep, pretty sure you can find LPI courses in the UK. Refer to the LPI site
[20:52] <DrGrov> I removed OpenOffice and added the LibreOffice PPA and tried installing but it says "E: Package libreoffice has no installation candidate"
[20:52] <coz_> DrGrov,  was the ppa for your version of ubuntu?
[20:52] <Rockstar88> sgrier- ok mate
[20:52] <DrGrov> coz_: Yes it does seem like that. I use this website to do it. I got 10.04
[20:52] <p01son> hmm Monotoko , theres a distor of linux which run all the programs of windows including msn messenger
[20:53] <DrGrov> coz_: http://ulyssesonline.com/2011/07/19/remove-openoffice-install-libreoffice/
[20:53] <Monotoko> p01son, how long ago was that?
[20:53] <coz_> DrGrov,  open a terminal   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:53] <coz_> DrGrov,  then after that is fin ished  try  sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[20:53] <p01son> Monotoko , I don't know
[20:54] <DrGrov> coz_: You sure about that dist-upgrade? I heard it is bad news everytime to do a dist-upgrade
[20:54] <coz_> DrGrov,  I do it all the time,,, there should be no issues
[20:54] <DrGrov> coz_: Ok, I try to do it
[20:54] <p01son> Monotoko, http://linuxtracker.org/ try this
[20:54] <coz_> DrGrov,  you can do sudo apt-get safe-upgrade  I believe
[20:54] <p01son> Monotoko , hey you can better run skype !
[20:55] <DrGrov> coz_: No safe-upgrade option. Invalid operation safe-upgrade.
[20:55] <V3NG3NC3> Hola
[20:55] <coz_> DrGrov,  ok
[20:55] <Yuukon> HI there, can anybody help me out? Got a friend without a networkmanager tray icon and he wants it back.
[20:55] <DrGrov> coz_: Ok, it is done. Nothing changed, no upgrades
[20:55] <V3NG3NC3> anyone cans help with open-wrt?
[20:55] <Yuukon> On the netbook version.
[20:56] <coz_> DrGrov,  mmm ok try the sudo apt-get install libreoffice now
[20:56] <DrGrov> coz_: Does not work.
[20:56] <DrGrov> coz_: Something must be wrong somewhere
[20:56] <coz_> DrGrov,  ok hold on
[20:56] <nit-wit> DrGrov, not to interupt, did you remove the OO file in home?
[20:56] <DrGrov> nit-wit: Ah, the .openoffice dir you mean?
[20:56] <j3roth> Yuukon, have you tried right clicking your top panel, Add to panel -> Indicator Applet?
[20:56] <nit-wit> DrGrov, when you remove OO you run a purge removal then the file in home.
[20:56] <DrGrov> nit-wit: I just removed with "rm -rf .openoffice.org"
[20:57] <V3NG3NC3> bular?
[20:57] <Yuukon> Not yet, j3roth , will try now
[20:57] <coz_> DrGrov,  in terminal   try  sudo apt-get purge openoffice*.*
[20:57] <p01son> Monotoko , are you there
[20:57] <Monotoko> p01son, I usually use Skype but my friend only uses MSN >.>
[20:57] <nit-wit> coz_, sorry to interject OO can be a pain to remove. ;)
[20:57] <DrGrov> coz_: Could not find package openoffice*.*
[20:58] <DrGrov> nit-wit: Nothing yet on libreoffice when I do sudo apt-get install libreoffice even though I removed .openoffice.org
[20:58] <DrGrov> Argh!
[20:58] <coz_> DrGrov,  ok  mm... see if  sudo apt-get install libreoffice-gnome is available
[20:58] <j3roth> Monotoko, enlighten your friend on the joys of skype.
[20:59] <nit-wit> DrGrov, I would try using synaptic you will get errors shown there probably.
[20:59] <p01son> Monotoko , well ..........
[20:59] <DrGrov> coz_: Not available
[20:59] <nit-wit> DrGrov, you have run a update since adding the ppa?
[20:59] <Yuukon> j3roth, its not working, what do we do now?
[20:59] <Rockstar88> still cant figure which course to take for the e learning
[20:59] <coz_> DrGrov,  for some reason the packages in that repository are not there   in terminal  gksudo  /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:59] <coz_> DrGrov,  see if the libreoffice ppa is listed there
[21:00] <DrGrov> nit-wit: Yes, I did a sudo apt-get update
[21:00] <nit-wit> DrGrov, I think coz_ has you covered
[21:00] <coz_> DrGrov,  let me know if that ppa is actually in the sources list
[21:01] <V3NG3NC3> anyone know the support room for W-wrt?
[21:01] <j3roth> Yuukon you are using the netbook version you said?
[21:01] <V3NG3NC3> X-wrt*
[21:01] <Yuukon> Yes j3roth, netbook version, we just switched from unity to gnome
[21:01] <DrGrov> coz_: Not there it seems
[21:01] <coz_> DrGrov,  ok hold on
[21:01] <Pyraine> I seem to have broke my alsa by following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1073090
[21:02] <Mandrew> Yuukon, netbook version of which distro? just entered the channel
[21:02] <DrGrov> coz_: Looks a bit funny I must say
[21:02] <Pyraine> does anyone know how I can fix it?
[21:02] <j3roth> Yuukon, any reason you use the netbook version over standard ubuntu? I had issues with the netbook version on my wifes netbook, and then installed standard ubuntu with no issue.
[21:02] <Yuukon> Of Ubuntu, Mandrew
[21:02] <coz_> DrGrov,  the sources list looks funny?
[21:02] <Mandrew> Yuukon, do you have a link for that version?
[21:02] <DrGrov> coz_: No, it looks ok. But there is a few uncomment options there which I could uncomment to add more repositories.
[21:02] <Pyraine> I don't even have alsamixer anymore
[21:02] <Yuukon> j3roth, this is a friends laptop, so no, I dont know
[21:03] <DrGrov> coz_: Let us take PM, I can not follow very well with all the text coming along all the time
[21:03] <coz_> DrGrov,  paste then entire sources list here   http://paste.ubuntu.com/   Paste it and give me link
[21:03] <Yuukon> j3roth, all we need is the indicator back, which has disappeared all of a sudden. Any idea how we can get it back? <-- Also, Mandrew , if youcan help, please do so.
[21:03] <j3roth> Yuukon, so when you hit add applet, it does nothing or do you get an error?
[21:03] <DrGrov> coz_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/651984/
[21:04] <Yuukon> It gives a blue questionmark icon j3roth, but except for that email etc
[21:04] <Mandrew> Yuukon, im looking myself for a good netbook OS so thats the reason for me asking ;)
[21:04] <Yuukon> We've got that twice now j3roth
[21:04] <j3roth> okay one second
[21:04] <Yuukon> I see Mandrew, its downloadable on the ubuntu site
[21:04] <Yuukon> Thank you j3roth
[21:05] <BenjamiX> Evenin'
[21:05] <coz_> DrGrov,  yes you can un-comment the ubuntu lucid partner repos
[21:05] <DrGrov> coz_: Ok, hold on. I need to find the darn thing :)
[21:05] <coz_> DrGrov,  you just had it opened :)
[21:05] <Mandrew> Yuukon, is it ubuntu 11.04 your thinking of? or is it a special version just for netbooks?
[21:05] <DrGrov> coz_: Yes but to find exactly that is a tidy bit difficult. PM coming through
[21:06] <Yuukon> Mandrew, if you go to the ubuntu site you should be able to find it there
[21:06] <danub> hey, stupid question. if i dont like unity, i can still install gnome/kde/flux on top of it right?
[21:06] <j3roth> Yuukon, try reloading the gnome-panel program. open terminal and run "killall gnome-panel"
[21:06] <Yuukon> danub, at loggin in you click your name and in the down panel you can select "Ubuntu Classic" which is the gnome
[21:06] <coz_> DrGrov,  you can open synaptic package manager,,, Settings/ repositories and in the third party tab  disable   or enable them t here
[21:06] <edbian> danub: yes, gnome is already installed all you have to do is log into it
[21:06] <danub> Yuukon: ok
[21:06] <j3roth> Yuukon, that should reload the panel automatically, if not just run gnome-panel
[21:06] <Yuukon> Will do j3roth
[21:06] <DrGrov> coz_: Ok, that is way easier.
[21:07] <madsj> why is there no standard package in ubuntu 10.10 for the Go programming language? it seems stupid that it's so hard to setup the environment compared to haskell or other programming languages
[21:07] <madsj> (which usually just require a single aptitude command, and bing, you're able to use it)
[21:07] <edbian> madsj: It's very new and not very common I think
[21:07] <BenjamiX> danub: when you log in to your account ubuntu, on the lower bar choose Ubuntu Classic
[21:07] <jhobbs> I have a DNS server i'd like to be used prior to the DNS servers I get back from DHCP.  I can edit /etc/resolv.conf but it doesn't last for long - is there a way to make that change permanent?
[21:08] <madsj> edbian: the language seems quite nice, though; mainly it was for toying around with it
[21:08] <edbian> madsj: I agree :)
[21:08] <Yuukon> j3roth, it reloaded but still no network indicator
[21:08] <danub> yuukon, did you add it to the panel?
[21:09] <Yuukon> Its not in de addable list danub
[21:09] <qin> jhobbs: change atribute of file, lsattr
[21:09] <j3roth> Danub, when he adds the applet to the panel, nothing happens.
[21:09] <Yuukon> j3roth, I'm a she, and no, its not working.
[21:09] <jhobbs> qin that works until i take my laptop to another network
[21:09] <j3roth> Yuukon, my apologies.
[21:10] <qin> jhobbs: hm...
[21:10] <Yuukon> Lol its fine j3roth
[21:10] <Yuukon> Any idea on what else we can do j3roth ?
[21:11] <j3roth> Yuukon, you could always rename your /home/USER/.gnome2 folder. It should regenerate a fresh configuration on reboot.
[21:11] <Guest59162> hello everyone. could someone help me with combining NAT and SOCKS proxy?
[21:11] <Yuukon> Okay j3roth
[21:11] <sudokill> is there any way to get thunar to delete directly by pressing delete, rather than go to trash?
[21:11] <danub> lol i cant even run unity anyway. says i dont have the hardware for it and kicks me to gnome
[21:12] <edbian> danub: :P
[21:13] <danub> screw it, since i know i can get back into gnome if i dont like unity (i have heard i wont since i wasn't a fan of the netbook version), i can just upgrade and select classic instead
[21:13] <j3roth> Yuukon, if all else fails, you should be able to run a: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[21:13] <edbian> danub: That's right
[21:13] <Yuukon> You can, danub,even without upgrading
[21:14] <j3roth> Yuukon, run that from the users home directory.
[21:14] <Yuukon> Okeydokey, j3roth
[21:14] <j3roth> Yuukon, that would be a last resort.
[21:14] <Yuukon> Thanks for your help/time, j3roth , much appreciated.
[21:14] <j3roth> Yuukon, no problem, if it doesnt work theres a few other things you can try. Just let me know.
[21:15] <Yuukon> Will do, j3roth, thank you.
[21:15] <tfdev> Hey all, i installed linux for the first time about a week ago on my asus k60ij. Occasionally my audio device seems to be "dropped" by the machine. System settings tells me i dont have a device installed, and is outputting audio through the dummy interface. How can i install my audio device for better support?
[21:15] <j3roth> tfdev, what version of ubuntu and what audio card is it?
[21:16] <tfdev> Natty and im not sure. No support online, only saying "integrated audio card"
[21:17] <tfdev> When running windows7 i think i remember seeing realtek
[21:17] <danub> anyone notice how "ubuntu classic" looks like crap verus the old gnome?
[21:17] <edbian> danub: It looks identical to 10.10
[21:17] <edbian> danub: I have noticed a bug that it sometimes looks ugly.  Try logging out and back in.
[21:17] <Yuukon> j3roth, its still not working. Any other idea's?
[21:18] <edbian> danub: Like the themeing turned all gray and square
[21:18] <danub> i disagree. the screen reminds me of the old CDE desktop on an SGI server
[21:18] <j3roth> Yuukon, yes try creating a new user, log in as that user and see if the panel shows up.
[21:18] <j3roth> Yuukon, that will help us narrow the problem down.
[21:18] <danub> edbian: exactly. grey, boxes are bevelled, it looks like a gui i would have written
[21:18] <Yuukon> Will do j3roth
[21:19] <edbian> danub: ha, try logging out and back in
[21:19] <Yuukon> Just got a message that didnt work before, j3roth
[21:19] <danub> did that. I'm going to restart the vm
[21:19] <edbian> danub: I'm not sure, try manually changing the theme
[21:19] <j3roth> Yuukon, so it doesnt work if you create a new user?
[21:19] <Yuukon> No it doesnt j3roth
[21:20] <chmj> who is at oscon?
[21:20] <chmj>  /join #ubuntu-za
[21:20] <chmj> oops
[21:20] <j3roth> Yuukon, imho and experience this type of problem is solved the easiest by installing Standard Ubuntu. I know its  a pain, but ive had problems with that distro.
[21:20] <silare> Is there a 'base' editable file for if I wanted to make my own Faenza-style icon?
[21:21] <Yuukon> We're gonna get a reinstall instead, thank you anyway, j3roth :)
[21:22] <j3roth> Yuukon, my sincerest apologies I could not answer your question. Good luck!
[21:22] <Yuukon> Thanks a lot you too, j3roth , much appreciated.
[21:23] <backbox> hello
[21:24] <HelloWorld321> My Ubuntu Software Center appears to be stuck at 50% of "Eclipse, Applying changes".  Just wait longer?
[21:25] <edbian> HelloWorld321: You can cancel it if you want.  I can help you recover from any breakage.
[21:25] <AndChat-> J3roth: have any idea as too my earlier problem
[21:25] <dimas_> could someone tell me how you make a living when the programs you make are free?
[21:26] <vlt> dimas_: By using them ;-)
[21:26] <AndChat-> J3roth: < tfdev
[21:26] <idlemind324> dimas_ it's all in the support contracts =)
[21:26] <HelloWorld321> It's like a college professor.  He gets famous by publishing his theories (for free), and then he gets prestigious jobs based on what a genius he is.
[21:27] <edbian> dimas_: Many open source developers make money from donations.  People who work on the linux kernel are often working for companies like intel
[21:27] <edbian> dimas_: firefox for example makes money (mostly) from the google search bar.
[21:27] <edbian> dimas_: Many other open source projects are done for fun (not for a full time job)
[21:27] <idlemind324> or @ least that's how canonical and red hat work ... here is our operating system but if you think you need a hand working on it pay us x dollars to be your fallback support
[21:27] <edbian> dimas_: It is not a simple answer
[21:27] <dimas_> edbian i can see
[21:28] <edbian> dimas_: A lot of it is support contracts as idlemind324 says
[21:28] <dimas_> edbian so you get pay for talking here?
[21:29] <YankDownUnder> dimas_, Yes - we get paid for this! Not in money... ;)
[21:29] <edbian> dimas_: I do not.  I am here for fun :)
[21:29] <edbian> dimas_: I don't think anybody in here is paid to be in here.
[21:29] <YankDownUnder> Paid in fun, paid in satisfaction of a job well done
[21:29] <idlemind324> open source also serves as a place for developers to breakout like the professor reference. you work on a project and if it's successful a large company want to hire your because you have experience and your quality of work is very visible
[21:30] <dimas_> oke because i am been thinking in killing myself
[21:30] <shantorn> it is interesting that some of you say that you get satisfaction helping, that is so nice to hear
[21:30] <edbian> dimas_: ?
[21:30] <idlemind324> yup that's the flip side of it ... sometimes ppl just do linux / open source stuff for the fun of it =)
[21:31] <nik0lai> I'm here for fun
[21:31] <YankDownUnder> shantorn, Well, ain't like we get anything else, ya know...we always get more ideas - always find new solutions to old problems...so it's a great fun puzzle...that just never gets completed (I've been puzzling over it since 1992)
[21:31] <dimas_> just a tought that comes to my head
[21:31] <shantorn> i have since 96, but try asking questions ins slack channel, but you better have an extinguisher
[21:32] <shantorn> are any of you going to oscon?
[21:32] <dimas_> i need help but i think i am already too old
[21:32] <shantorn> i am 42 and still help new people
[21:32] <YankDownUnder> shantorn, Hehehehehe...yeah...there was a time when it was a fun place...then it was RH then it was Fedora then it was Mandrake/Mandriva, then it was Gentoo, then it was Ubuntu...
[21:33] <nik0lai> I've only been messing with Linux for two years. I feel like such a n00b around you guys.
[21:33] <shantorn> i use to get willow grove? linux from the library
[21:33] <j3roth> nik0lai, we all start somewhere.
[21:33] <shantorn> i started on redhat 5.1 in 96
[21:33] <YankDownUnder> nik0lai, Regardless of experience, and regardless of whether or not anyone wants to admit it, we're always n00bs.
[21:34] <nik0lai> That's what Google's for, right?
[21:34] <shantorn> i am learning so much getting this happy with my newish laptop
[21:34] <berto-> anyone know if there's a linux driver for the intel HD 3000 graphics baked in i7 processors?
[21:34] <YankDownUnder> Well, I"m going to learn something new today and go and rip down a 10m LED screen and then set it up again at a different footy ground. ;)
[21:35] <shantorn> i know by default whats built into my i5 works rather wel
[21:35] <shantorn> 10 meter?
[21:35] <dimas_> i need a friend
[21:35] <YankDownUnder> shantorn, Yes. And that's small for what we do.
[21:35] <shantorn> yikes, thats like 33 feet
[21:35] <nik0lai> Has anyone here played Conway's Game of Life?
[21:35] <shantorn> how tall?
[21:36] <YankDownUnder> shantorn, 8m
[21:36] <berto-> shantorn: are you talking about the graphics in your i5?  what driver are you using?
[21:36] <shantorn> crane work?
[21:36] <vlt> !ot
[21:36] <RealOpty> is kernel 3,0 stable now?
[21:36] <shantorn> berto-, the 2.5 driver
[21:36] <YankDownUnder> shantorn, And that's not all - we also do an 80m by 1.5m => stretches the entire footy field.
[21:36] <shantorn> sorry vlt
[21:37] <YankDownUnder> Right oh - cheerio!
[21:37] <berto-> shantorn: sorry, i'm dense. what is the 2.5 driver, where do i get it from, the intel site?
[21:37] <love4linux> hello..I am trying to setup an ad-hoc network with ubuntu and bt5. I use static IP addresses and in a tutotial that I found it specifies the gateway as 1.1.1.1 , does anyone know the reason for this gateway?
[21:37] <Akiros> anyone here have tmobile and want to make $10 paypal? :D
[21:37] <shantorn> i added the proposed upgrades in synaptic and then chose that driver
[21:38] <idlemind324> akiros, you mean at&t .. (insert remainder of my corny merger jokes here)
[21:38] <j3roth> love4linux, no idea. Completely depends on the way you want to setup the network.
[21:38] <shantorn> i run my lappy screen and an hdmi 23" and its flawless
[21:38] <berto-> shantorn: i just installed ubuntu 11.04 fresh and it doesn't recommend any drivers.  what should i add to synaptic to get the needed packages?
[21:39] <berto-> i'm stuck at 1024 resolution right now.  :\
[21:39] <shantorn> let me finish this install and ill get you an answer
[21:39] <love4linux> i am confused since this 1.1.1.1 for gateway does not exist, right? in a wired or traditional wireless net you have the gateway pointing to the router which is the "bridge" for communication
[21:39] <berto-> shantorn: awesome, thanks!  when you shout, please add my nick so my computer yells at me.
[21:40] <edbian> love4linux: the gateway is the address of the router or 'bridge' yes.  Let's not call it a 'bridge' that term is loaded in networking
[21:40] <shantorn> will do
[21:40] <edbian> love4linux: 1.1.1.1 is unlikely to be your gateway.
[21:41] <love4linux> j3roth i know thats why I used the "".. so, whatever the number as the gateway will not affect my communication between the two laptops
[21:41] <love4linux> oops wrong name : )
[21:41] <j3roth> love4linux, it shouldnt
[21:42] <love4linux> okays... does anyone know an easy to use program to use to send data from one laptop to another so i can test my connection
[21:42] <love4linux> ?
[21:42] <edbian> love4linux: ping of course
[21:42] <edbian> :)
[21:43] <love4linux> edbian : ) okays... i guess that also confirms communication
[21:43] <edbian> love4linux: if you get a response from ping it means your computer sent data across to network to another computer and that second computer sent data back to the first one.
[21:44] <shantorn> berto-, look here mate https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/intel-driver
[21:44] <love4linux> edbian yeap... communication in its lowest level
[21:45] <edbian> love4linux: yes
[21:45] <TheEmpath> howdy
[21:46] <love4linux> edbian do you have any experience with nrlOLSR?
[21:46] <TheEmpath> so i have one computer running ubuntu 10.10, and an old hard drive that used to run 10.10.  on the old hard drive is an encrpyted home directory that i have no idea on how to open or read
[21:46] <edbian> love4linux: no
[21:46] <edbian> love4linux: never heard of it
[21:46] <love4linux> edbian its a routing protocol for mobile ad hoc nets
[21:46] <edbian> love4linux: neat
[21:47] <TheEmpath> not one set of instructions across the internet can even answer the basic question on how to open the damn thing, and apparently, there is this encryptfs-recover-private guy but only available for 11.04... either way, its a clusterf*ck
[21:47] <love4linux> edbian yeah I am trying to do a testbed with 3 nodes that run the Optimized Link State Routing (OLSR) protocol
[21:48] <love4linux> anyways... have to disconnect to test the adhoc connection
[21:48] <love4linux> thanks for the help people
[21:48] <TBotNik> All: Hey guys almost got my ICS working from wlan0 to eth0.  Have my lastest post at FORUM: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1804424&page=2 PB: http://pastebin.com/ZaahMihm  Can use the help, close but not there yet.  Confused by the pahntom IP addresses from nowhere.  Hve been concentrating on simply getting the DHCP server working, which has not happened yet.  All help appreciated.  Thanks!
[21:48] <shantorn> back to school work
[21:49] <TheEmpath> Basically, Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop does nothing.
[21:49] <spankbot> high all, anyone have a laptop with an NVidia card and are using the NVidia drivers?
[21:50] <spankbot> I keep getting logged out if my laptop is not connected to a power source
[21:50] <spankbot> I had some success in the NVidia config "Power Mizer" and changed it to Adaptive to Max Power
[21:51] <spankbot> but when I try to stream a video.. youtube, then the system logs me off and my NVidia setting is lost and reverts back to Adaptive
[21:54] <bencc> I've managed to create local static ipv4 behind a router, can I do it with ipv6?
[21:54] <spankbot>  anyone have a laptop with an NVidia card and are using the NVidia drivers?
[21:57] <TBotNik> Repeating: All: Hey guys almost got my ICS working from wlan0 to eth0.  Have my lastest post at FORUM: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1804424&page=2 PB: http://pastebin.com/ZaahMihm  Can use the help, close but not there yet.  Confused by the pahntom IP addresses from nowhere.  Hve been concentrating on simply getting the DHCP server working, which has not happened yet.  All help appreciated.  Thanks!
[21:57] <mina2> can anyone tell me what their aconnect -o displays
[21:58] <mina2> i get only a midi through port and i cant play midi
[21:58] <mina2> :(
[21:59] <j3roth> mina2, have you followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736
[22:00] <love4linux> just for the record... the adhoc test was successful...
[22:00] <j3roth> love4linux, awesome
[22:00] <amigrave> can someone please tell me where I can get debs of kernel 2.6.39 ? ppa is empty and trying to build it with make-kpkg fails because of version mismatch.
[22:00] <amigrave> for 11.04
[22:00] <love4linux> j3roth was easier than i thought... all ICMP data was nicely observed through wireshark
[22:01] <leif> I'm using a laptop with an external monitor.  When I change the configuration from mirror (the default) to having the laptop screen off with the external monitor on, both screens just go black.  Is there anything I can do about this?
[22:01] <leif> thank you.
[22:01] <love4linux> but why does ubuntu starts wireshark without sudo priviledges and then does not ask for sudo in order to control the network cards?
[22:01] <TBotNik> spankbot: Look like you are out of luck right now.  Post it on a forum and re-ask in a couple hours when japan, china and austrailia come online, since no one here seems to have faced your problem.  I had an Nvidia machine, but don't have access to it right now, so also can not help you.
[22:01] <love4linux> and I have to start it via the console
[22:02] <clausen> is there a way to control apt-get update, so that it only updates from some sources?
[22:02] <clausen> e.g.:   apt-get update *.ubuntu.com
[22:02] <leif> clausen, Disable the sources?
[22:02] <clausen> leif, that's a lot of editing of /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:03] <wildbat> TBotNik: you are putting both wlan0 and eth0 on auto, so eth0 get ip from some dhcp server on your network. dhcp server should static ip
[22:03] <j3roth> love4linux, you could always edit the application menu item and add gksudo to the beginning of the wireshark command.
[22:03] <TBotNik> wildbat: Which line in which file please!
[22:03] <leif> clausen, True.  Although that's the only way I know how to do it.  ;)
[22:03] <wildbat> TBotNik:  /etc/network/interfaces
[22:04] <love4linux> j3roth hmmm I ll try and fix it
[22:04] <spankbot> TBotNik  >> thanks, I've got the same thing going on with Fedora 15, this is not an Ubuntu issue.. something with NVidia.
[22:05] <wildbat> TBotNik: you will have problem thou ~if there is two different dhcp server running on the same network ~
[22:06] <TBotNik> wildbat: We talking /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf ??
[22:06] <TBotNik> or both?
[22:06] <berto-> shantorn: beautiful, will try to install this in a bit.
[22:07] <the-ubuntu-user> hi, has anyone tried bbc iplayer on ubuntu natty, and does it work properly?
[22:07] <wildbat> TBotNik: /etc/network/interfaces ~ auto mean try to get ip from dhcp
[22:07] <zombiex> how do i install 'untrusted packages' ?
[22:08] <zombiex> my update manager is giving me error message
[22:08] <zombiex> error: require installation of untrusted packages
[22:09] <gr33n7007h> Yo Guys does anybody know how to run vlc player as root except via recompiling??
[22:09] <berto-> zombiex: if the repository you are adding from has a key, it's easiest to add it to the trusted list, check out: https://launchpad.net/+help/soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html and search for "apt-key"
[22:10] <gr33n7007h> Yo Guys does anybody know how to run vlc player as root except via recompiling??
[22:10] <ciss> hi, how can one monitor or log drive spin ups (standby -> idle/active)? i can only think of constantly checking hdparm -C
[22:10] <love4linux> j3roth i changed the command as gksudo wireshark, requests the sudo pass as expected but there is one warning and an error. the warning says  "Running as user root and group root is dangerous", but there is no other way to get priviledges over the network cards. The error message is "Lua: Error during loading:
[22:10] <love4linux>  [string "/usr/share/wireshark/init.lua"]:45: dofile has been disabled", any idea what is?
[22:11] <zombiex> berto-, but the update manager is giving the error message for so many packages
[22:11] <cds-> love4linux: i always get that error when using gksudo, not sure what it means but never had any issues with wireshark
[22:11] <cds-> more annoying than anything else
[22:11] <zombiex> adobe-flashplugin apparmor apparmor-utils apt apt-transport-https apt-utils aptdaemon apturl apturl-common avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon avahi-utils bash-completion bind9-host brasero brasero-common bsdutils compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins computer-janitor computer-janitor-gtk dbus dbus-x11 dhcp3-client dhcp3-common dnsutils emacs emacs23 emacs23-bin-common emacs23-common empathy empathy-common evolution evolution-common evolution-plugins fi
[22:11] <zombiex> refox firefox-4.0-core firefox-branding firefox-locale-en firefox-trunk firefox-trunk-globalmenu fuse-utils gdm gimp gimp-data gnome-nettool gnome-power-manager gnome-screensaver gnome-terminal gnome-terminal-data gnome-user-guide grub-common grub-pc icedtea-6-jre-cacao icedtea6-plugin indicator-application indicator-sound initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin initscripts language-pack-en language-pack-en-base language-selector language-selector-common li
[22:11] <FloodBot1> zombiex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <love4linux> cds- yeah i guess ignoring it is the best option
[22:12] <LmAt> What is the command that shows all the processes and how much resources they use, etc.?
[22:12] <th0r> LmAt: top
[22:12] <LmAt> th0r, danke
[22:12] <ciss> gr33n7007h: doesn't vlc run under the current user?
[22:12] <love4linux> cds- htop is better
[22:12] <ciss> -under +as
[22:13] <love4linux> LmAt try htop
[22:13] <LmAt> love4linux, no good.
[22:13] <LmAt> "cds-htop" is no good, too.
[22:13] <LmAt> he suggests installing it.
[22:13] <love4linux> LmAt no good in what way?
[22:13] <alex--> Hello
[22:14] <LmAt> alex--, Hello.
[22:14] <LmAt> love4linux, It doesn't exist.
[22:14] <LmAt> love4linux, Oap! It works now.
[22:14] <LmAt> How pretty.
[22:14] <LmAt> hey, it's not swapping.  Broken Linux...
[22:15] <love4linux> LmAt oh i get it... i wrote a nickname before the 'htop' tool : )
[22:15] <LmAt> love4linux, :)
[22:15] <love4linux> my mistake
[22:15] <LmAt> love4linux, I had to apt-get install htop
[22:15] <love4linux> yeap
[22:15] <subsume> how do I find where a package installed to?
[22:15] <gr33n7007h> Yo Guys does anybody know how to run vlc player as root except via recompiling??
[22:15] <love4linux> a lot easier that top
[22:15] <LmAt> love4linux, easier?  how?
[22:15] <LmAt> It's pretty.
[22:15] <alex-->  gr33n7007h gksudo vlc
[22:15] <th0r> subsume: right click on the package in synaptic and choose properties
[22:15] <love4linux> sorry, user-friendly is the right word
[22:15] <LmAt> htop takes 8% cpu time :(
[22:15] <alex--> gr33n7007h: alt + f2: gksudo vlc
[22:16] <gr33n7007h> ill try that now thanks
[22:16] <LmAt> love4linux, Oh my, it has menus and stuff...
[22:16] <qin> subsume: dpkg -L package_name, locate name, which binary_name
[22:16] <th0r> gr33n7007h: did you read the error vlc throws? it tells you how to do a wrapper script
[22:16] <love4linux> and colours
[22:16] <LmAt> oh, down arrow works... neato.
[22:16] <love4linux> : )
[22:16] <alex--> gr33n7007h: you can run every application with it, just do, alt + f2: gksudo nano
[22:16] <LmAt> love4linux, top only uses .7 % processor :)
[22:17] <berto-> zombiex: what is the output of "sudo apt-key list"
[22:17] <qin> alex--: nano?
[22:17] <alex--> qin: just telling him another applicatio
[22:17] <alex--> n
[22:17] <th0r> LmAt: 'pretty' costs <smile>
[22:17] <alex--> qin: i also could have said: firefox
[22:17] <qin> alex--: nano need terminal to run
[22:17] <alex--> oh
[22:17] <alex--> :P
[22:18] <zazzy> ciao
[22:18] <alex--> gr33n7007h: does it works?
[22:18] <gr33n7007h> how do you use vlc-wrapper anyone plz?
[22:19] <gr33n7007h> alex no
[22:19] <gr33n7007h> alex no
[22:19] <gr33n7007h> how do you use vlc-wrapper anyone plz?
[22:20] <alex--> vlc-wrapper?
[22:20] <alex--> you said vlc
[22:20] <alex--> then do alt + f2: gksudo vlc-wrapper
[22:20] <gr33n7007h> vlc-wrapper is a program to su into vlc but dont know how to use it
[22:21] <gr33n7007h> it doesn't work alex
[22:21] <gr33n7007h> VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry.
[22:21] <gr33n7007h> If you need to use real-time priorities and/or privileged TCP ports
[22:21] <gr33n7007h> you can use vlc-wrapper (make sure it is Set-UID root and
[22:21] <gr33n7007h> cannot be run by non-trusted users first).
[22:21] <FloodBot1> gr33n7007h: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:21] <gr33n7007h> sorry
[22:22] <j3roth> gr33n7007h, its a bot. Im sure it will forgive you. ;)
[22:22] <alex--> lol
[22:22] <gr33n7007h> lol
[22:22] <love4linux> : )
[22:22] <alex--> gr33n7007h: I'm not sure about this, wait for someone else to answer
[22:22] <gr33n7007h> kk
[22:23] <love4linux> gr33n7007h why not try vlc's forum?
[22:23] <love4linux> or google it
[22:23] <ciss> +1 :]
[22:23] <gr33n7007h> i've tried everything with no avail
[22:24] <gr33n7007h> i'll have a go at recompiling with the run-as-root flag thanks anyway
[22:24] <j3roth> gr33n7007h, have you tried #videolan their official irc?
[22:24] <ciss> gr33n7007h: out of curiosity, why do you need to run it as root?
[22:25] <gr33n7007h> because everything is root on this ubuntu
[22:25] <j3roth> ...
[22:25] <j3roth> thats safe ;)
[22:25] <exutux> cool
[22:25] <jrib> j3roth: yes, sounds brilliant
[22:25] <love4linux> gr33n7007h why you need to open a known port for vlc? why dont you use its default port
[22:26] <love4linux> isn't that what vlc-wrapper does?
[22:26] <gr33n7007h> do you know how to use vlc-wrapper plz?
[22:26] <j3roth> gr33n7007h, heres a better question. What are you trying to do?
[22:27] <gr33n7007h> play videos and sounds from root
[22:27] <specialmoose> just installed 11.04... what were they thinking on the theme?
[22:27] <TBotNik> wildbat: Hey tweaked the /etc/network/interfaces file and restarted the network, but no change in the IP addresses on eth0, even with it declared static.  I'm wondering if there is a setting in the iptables file so looking.
[22:28] <love4linux> okay guys, how can I find my command history for multiple command windows?
[22:28] <ciss> gr33n7007h: why not set "media" as group for your media files and add your vlc user to it?
[22:28] <j3roth> gr33n7007h, try running: totem
[22:29] <zazzy> 1
[22:29] <edbian> specialmoose: ? It looks great: http://www.google.com/search?s%3Fhl=en&cp=12&gs_id=1b&xhr=t&q=ubuntu%2011.04&qe=dWJ1bnR1IDExLjA0&qesig=CNdsZENqNoNPI-kog_vNVg&pkc=AFgZ2tlEUyzt1obBIWhg9pFF5LaqU5XFI8VlncNqgJgqcDfAmoJyHuXFtcOAFyg7hx_emb-wfuw090MYAsPdEX8IIkGmcEw-CQ&pq=ubuntu+11.04&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1110&bih=692&noj=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
[22:29] <TBotNik> wildbat: Do not have an /etc/iptables file closest are /etc/completion.d/iptables and /sbin/iptables
[22:30] <exutux> TBotNik: tweaked interface how?
[22:30] <ciss> edbian: do you happen to use remote desktop (vino) with 11.04 ?
[22:30] <edbian> ciss: I do!
[22:30] <edbian> ciss: why?
[22:30] <TBotNik> exutux: Will send to PB
[22:30] <ciss> edbian: do you have compiz running?
[22:30] <edbian> ciss: yes
[22:31] <ciss> edbian: it's slow as hell for me. even if there are almost no changes, it's constantly transmitting over 1mb/s
[22:31] <edbian> ciss: The server is ubuntu 11.04 running unity with compiz
[22:31] <specialmoose> edbian, dunno but it took me 10 minutes to figure out where system stuff was
[22:31] <edbian> ciss: How are you measuring the network use?
[22:31] <ciss> i'm using the classic desktop
[22:31] <edbian> specialmoose: ha :)  That's the interface not the theme
[22:32] <ciss> edbian: bwm-ng
[22:32] <edbian> specialmoose: the theme is what color the interface is
[22:32] <edbian> ciss: Lemme install that and take a look at mine
[22:32] <j3roth> Did I just really read a sentence with the words server and unity in it?
[22:32] <edbian> j3roth: It's a VNC server :P
[22:33] <j3roth> edbian: *GIANT sigh of relief*
[22:33] <edbian> 'everything went better than expected!'
[22:33] <TBotNik> exutux, wildbat:  PB at: http://pastebin.com/ShRN05bT
[22:34] <ciunix> who can help me in configuring a virtualhost in the apache server?
[22:34] <TBotNik> exutux, wildbat: interfaces file starts on line 24
[22:34] <exutux> TBotNik: why you have commented out auto eth0? if you're using eth0?
[22:34] <exutux> TBotNik: and why auto wlan0?
[22:34] <urbanlime> ciunix, have you tried a control panel to auto configure it, for example kloxo?
[22:35] <ciunix> no
[22:35] <ciunix> I don't know kloxo
[22:35] <edbian> ciss: Now my client is a Debian 6 system.  But I ran bwm-ng on the client and was seeing around 6 - 7 kbs background noise.  Once vnc was running and connected to the server I saw the same.  MOving the mouse around I can get it to spike to maybe 512.  Top ran smoothly at about 100kbs
[22:35] <edbian> ciss: This is lan to wifi
[22:35] <ciss> i've heard legends of an "advanced settings" for vino tab in 8.04. seems there's not trace left of it. the settings schema file doesn't contain any other options than the ones available via vino-preferences, and assuming that a vino config file would have "vino" somewhere in its path, there are no other configuration files
[22:35] <ciunix> I'm configuring a virtualhost with vi
[22:36] <ciss> edbian: and you're seriously running compiz at the default settings? what resolution do you have?
[22:36] <edbian> ciss: It's a netbook.  some strange not large resolution 1024 x 700 or something like that
[22:36] <edbian> ciss: I am seriously running compiz (unity requires compiz)
[22:37] <edbian> ciss: My client is the Debian client.  the server is the 11.04 server
[22:37] <TBotNik> exutux: Since Inet come via wlan0 and trying to run dhcp server on eth0 wildbat said I needed to comment it out and go static with eth0, which is what I did, but as you see it still has the 10.x.x.x setting, not what I'm sending it.  wondering if I need to restart Network mgr as well?
[22:37] <edbian> ciss: What difference does it make if I'm running compiz.  The refresh rate isn't even fast enough to catch the effect
[22:37] <ciss> edbian: 1920x1080. osx 10.6.8 client
[22:37] <edbian> ciss: osx ?  What part of the equation is a mac?
[22:38] <ciss> edbian: none, i hope. just mentioned it because you did :)
[22:38] <edbian> ciss: ?
[22:39] <ciss> edbian: i'm just guessing that the compiz layer *might* have some effect on how well vino can detect changes
[22:39] <edbian> ciss: I didn't mention osx
[22:39] <alex--> where can i download 11.10?
[22:39] <edbian> ciss: I don't see any difference running compiz and without running compiz
[22:39] <ciss> edbian: sorry, misunderstood "my client is the debian client"
[22:39] <TBotNik> exutux, wildbat: You guys still there?
[22:39] <edbian> ciss: yeah, I'm running Debian client side
[22:40] <alex--> nvm, got it
[22:40] <exutux> TBotNik: you don't need comented out "auto eth0"
[22:40] <TBotNik> exutux: K what would you do to fix this?  Do you understand my problem?
[22:40] <exutux> TBotNik: and wlan0 need some options out, like iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[22:42] <ciss> edbian: i guess i'll just save myself some time and nerves and return to using nomachine. if only they would finally allow to share/ take over sessions ...
[22:42] <edbian> ciss: never used nomachine. :)
[22:43] <ciss> edbian: it's amazingly fast. feels almost like controlling the host directly
[22:43] <edbian> ciss: I admit my vnc is barely usable :)
[22:44] <TBotNik> exutux: Not sending via wlan0 only recieving, if I'm understanding you correctly.
[22:44] <exutux> TBotNik: hotspot mode?
[22:44] <ciss> edbian: if you don't mind having a separate session for your remote user, you should give nomachine nx a try
[22:45] <TBotNik> exutux: ??
[22:45] <edbian> ciss: I'll look at it.  It's not in my repos which worries me
[22:45] <ciss> it even allows you to resize the screen/desktop :D
[22:45] <exutux> TBotNik: wlan0 run like hotspot? like an AP?
[22:46] <love4linux> goodnight linux lovers
[22:46] <exutux> TBotNik: other clients connects thru wlan0?
[22:46] <ciss> edbian: they provide downloadable deb packages
[22:46] <edbian> ciss: thanks!
[22:47] <ciss> yw
[22:48] <astraljava> ciss: I thought FreeNX had an option to detach/reattach to/from a session? Or is that not what you're talking about?
[22:49] <ciss> astraljava: that the abandoned one written by google?
[22:50] <astraljava> ciss: Hmm... don't recall that... wait a moment.
[22:50] <alex--> When I tr to boot 11.10: FATAL: Error inserting ramzswap: invalid module format
[22:50] <alex--> why is this and how to fix it?
[22:50] <astraljava> ciss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[22:50] <ciss> astraljava: as far as i know the nx server doesn't support hijacking running sessions. you can save and resume sessions (and kill them), but there's no sharing
[22:51] <astraljava> ciss: Ahh... okay, maybe you're right.
[22:51] <TBotNik> exutux: I have remote warehouse 2 miles from main warehouse, connects via wlan0 to main server.  3 other servers need to talk to this server, via eth0, but with no router, this server must supply them with IPs, so they can talk.  Do you understand now?
[22:52] <ciss> seems as if freenx hasn't been updated for almost three years
[22:52] <ciss> ah, "neatx" was the google one
[22:53] <ciss> hasn't been updated since feb 2010
[22:53] <ciss> such a shame
[22:53] <jvgeli> question, how come my download speed is only up to 92 kbps? running natty
[22:54] <ciss> jvgeli: download speed when doing what?
[22:54] <urbanlime> jvgeli: that is probably due to your internet connection, what is your normal download speed?
[22:54] <jvgeli> evrything
[22:54] <exutux> TBotNik: yes I understand
[22:54] <sudokill> jvgeli, could be anything
[22:54] <sudokill> wireless?
[22:55] <jvgeli> urbanlime: i have a 768kbps connection. Should register as high as 400 kbps, but 92kbps is too low
[22:55] <jvgeli> DSL line, PPPoE
[22:55] <sudokill> jvgeli, id disable ipv6 for a start
[22:55] <TBotNik> exutux: I also have to add a wifi router, so visitors to the remote warehouse can connect to internet.  The router I have for that is LinkSys WRTU54G, but can not find a way to make it use the high gain antenna and be the interconnect so using the DLink card to the high gain antenna and "trying" to serve IPs to this network to get it running.
[22:55] <urbanlime> jvgeli: if you are on a wireless connection, I'd restart it
[22:56] <jvgeli> urbanlime: im on DSL. IPv6 already disabled on network interfaces
[22:57] <ciss> jvgeli: do you have another client or os to check your speed with?
[22:57] <TBotNik> exutux: The WRTU54G is not supported by dd-wrt, not sure why, but I think if I could load that, I could make it work, but can not since it is not supported.
[22:57] <sudokill> TBotNik, you sure?
[22:57] <sudokill> i thought all wrts worked
[22:58] <sudokill> oh ok it doesnt..
[22:58] <jvgeli> whats more interesting is that speedtest.net puts my download speed at 0.79 MBPS but conky only registers 92 kbps.
[22:59] <sudokill> jvgeli, download a well seeded torrent and see
[22:59] <M4d3L> hi. someone can tell me what is the source that content the php5-mysqli package?
[22:59] <sudokill> real dl speed
[22:59] <sudokill> speedtest is normally right though id trust that over conky...
[22:59] <TBotNik> sudokill: No the "U" in the model is because it is the experimental one that had the 2 SIP trunk phone connects for Vonage and that experimental T-Mobile service they had for a while.  The extra cktry is why the model is not supported, I think, as dd-wrt does not know what to do with it.
[22:59] <gogeta> sudokill: ? a torrent real dl speed?
[23:00] <sudokill> yes
[23:00] <gogeta> sudokill: thats wjat speed test is for
[23:00] <gogeta> what
[23:01] <TBotNik> exutux: Where are we at?
[23:01] <sudokill> i know, but to be sure
[23:01] <alex--> gogeta: not really
[23:01] <alex--> gogeta: speedtest is in megabit
[23:01] <alex--> gogeta: real download speed is in megabyte
[23:02] <sudokill> i mean real as in normal situation
[23:02] <sudokill> but whatever
[23:02] <TBotNik> exutux: My wlan0 link, because of distance, only registers 58-85% varying on time of day, weather, etc. but always at least 58%
[23:02] <gogeta> alex--: 3.5 ,megabit is 350kb download
[23:03] <alex--> gogeta: 0,4375 megabyte/s download = 437,5 kb/s
[23:03] <astraljava> M4d3L: Seems to be php5, which you can get with `apt-get source php5`
[23:03] <alex--> 8 megabit = 1 megabyte
[23:03] <alex--> 8 bit = 1 byte
[23:03] <alex--> :)
[23:03] <gogeta> alex--: anyways you can do the conversio n in your head quit easly
[23:04] <alex--> i'm just correcting you
[23:04] <exutux> TBotNik: I'm thinking but I don't have idea why your eth0 pool that ip's, your dhcp.conf is completly in your PB?
[23:05] <M4d3L> astraljava: not found after run your command
[23:06] <M4d3L> here is my source.list : http://paste2.org/p/1542004
[23:06] <exutux> TBotNik: do you have tried to set eth0 ip out of dhcp range?
[23:06] <TBotNik> exutux: At least it is a connection.  Have an 8 port hub here for network distro, and got my win laptop on it to monitor if it starts sending IPs.  Have the WRTU54G, plugged in, but have it set to receive via dhcp, having config'd it with the win laptop.  Only part is missing is actual dhcp server.  Yeah the 10.X.X.X IPs have me completely stumped, have no idea where they can be coming from.
[23:07] <ministerdude> Now That I've partitioned my drive. How do I instal windows to that partition?
[23:07] <ministerdude> and make sure it makes it on that new partition
[23:07] <TBotNik> exutux: "Out of dhcp range" explain what you are thinking!
[23:07] <sudokill> ministerdude, you can choose where to install windows on the install
[23:08] <DropSQL> hi all
[23:08] <TBotNik> exutux: You think I should try something like 66.x.x.x or something else?
[23:08] <ministerdude> K. I shrunk my ubuntu partition down to 12gb. that's all I need for it :)
[23:09] <sudokill> yea you dont need much
[23:09] <robin0800> ministerdude, make sure its the first partition and windows installer will call it the c drive
[23:09] <exutux> TBotNik: your dhcp range starts from 192.168.0.2 to 200 ... so try to reduce range to start from .5 to 200 and set static ip for eth0 like 192.168.0.4 for example... out of range dhcp server
[23:09] <astraljava> M4d3L: Hmm... it's there, though. Can you pastebin the command outputs `sudo apt-get update` and `apt-cache policy php5-mysql`, please?
[23:09] <sudokill> ministerdude, dont forget about the windows bootloader overwrtigin grub
[23:09] <DropSQL> i want setup git+redmine, but: error: Cannot access URL http://git.neval.co.ua/git/turbosms-programming/, return code 22
[23:09] <ministerdude> sda3 is what gparted says
[23:10] <DropSQL> and if http://monah@git.neval.co.ua/git/turbosms-programming/ error: "error: cannot lock existing info/refs"
[23:10] <DropSQL> halp me plz
[23:10] <exutux> TBotNik: my bad your range was range 192.168.3.10 192.168.3.200  mine was an example
[23:10] <robin0800> ministerdude, you need sta1 for windows the first partition
[23:11] <exutux> edbian:
[23:11] <exutux> -.-
[23:11] <ministerdude> Anyway to switch them around?
[23:11] <edbian> exutux: yes
[23:11] <DropSQL> sorry, but i bad speak english
[23:11] <exutux> TBotNik: sorry your config is just setted there...
[23:12] <M4d3L> astraljava: first command : http://paste2.org/p/1542013
[23:12] <adubz> on ubuntu how can i install the python module amun_logging
[23:12] <exutux> edbian: sorry tab mistake
[23:12] <skegeek> Are there any "common practices" of [Ubuntu] hosting server admins?
[23:12] <TBotNik> exutux: You pointed something out by happen stance.  The IPs were picking up all those items commented out, so deleted them and rerunning the restart.
[23:12] <edbian> exutux: ooohhh :(
[23:12] <robin0800> ministerdude, useing  gparted live cd is easiest
[23:12] <adubz> how about how do i install python modules on ubuntu??
[23:12] <exutux> ok my eyes run like a slot machine....!! so tired :p
[23:13] <ministerdude> ok I'll get it
[23:13] <ministerdude> thank you
[23:13] <M4d3L> astraljava: http://paste2.org/p/1542015 for other command
[23:13] <faint545> adubz, have you tried using synaptic to install Python modules?
[23:13] <astraljava> M4d3L: Lose the 'i' at the end.
[23:14] <M4d3L> astraljava: php-mysql is not the same as php-mysqli
[23:14] <TreyM_> any linux gods in the house?
[23:14] <adubz> faint545 no i wouldnt think synaptic would control python modules
[23:14] <M4d3L> I need the one with the i
[23:14] <astraljava> M4d3L: Ohh... sorry!
[23:14] <TBotNik> exutux: No change after restart, Bummer!!
[23:14] <DropSQL> I can help someone?
[23:14] <faint545> adubz, try synaptic. Synaptic has some python modules
[23:14] <exutux> no any clue now... :(
[23:14] <adubz> faint545 the program that needs this module isnt even on a repository
[23:15] <TreyM> DropSQL, hi
[23:15] <adubz> this one is a rare find i guess
[23:15] <DropSQL> TreyM: hi
[23:15] <TBotNik> exutux: Going to try machine reboot, so BRB in 5-10.
[23:15] <faint545> adubz, what is the module called?
[23:15] <TreyM> I'm a learning android dev, I need to symlink some files with the prefix system@. I assume linux commands will work
[23:15] <DropSQL> someone help me?
[23:15] <TreyM> it's shell script
[23:16] <adubz> the module is called amun_logging
[23:17] <astraljava> M4d3L: Seems that package hasn't been around since dapper, but have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=821575
[23:18] <M4d3L> lol I found it already installed
[23:18] <M4d3L> by an other package
[23:18] <astraljava> !anyone > DropSQL
[23:19] <skegeek> There is no Ubuntu specific knowledge, tools, tricks for server admins?
[23:19] <tobiassjosten> Does anyone know how to enable ACL for my eCryptFS home directory?
[23:19] <skegeek> Other than tasksel anyway
[23:20] <faint545> adubz, is this the module? http://amunhoney.sourceforge.net
[23:20] <adubz> faint545 that is the application
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> skegeek: in what way?
[23:20] <ciss> nomachine nx: still as awesome as i remembered it *sigh-of-relief*
[23:20] <faint545> adubz, have your read the INSTALL file? there are directions there on how to install
[23:20] <DropSQL> astraljava: i setup git server+redmine, but I can not do push :(
[23:21] <entombed> I have never used Ubuntu, but I am about to use the installer to try to run hdparm on my drive and do a secure erase....
[23:21] <edbian> entombed: k
[23:21] <entombed> Is there a way to get ot a bash prompt while using the installer?
[23:21] <edbian> entombed: Did you boot a liveCD?
[23:21] <entombed> No.
[23:21] <faint545> adubz, here are the install directions: http://pastebin.com/z9SAbMdB
[23:21] <entombed> I am told the Ubuntu installer will support sleep mode and I need sleep mode to unfreeze my hard drive.
[23:21] <edbian> entombed: Did you make a liveCD / liveUSB ?
[23:22] <entombed> Is there an Ubuntu live cd?
[23:22] <adubz> ya i see them
[23:22] <adubz> my server is running
[23:22] <ciss> and the transferred data is a joke compared to the constant floods of kilo- and megabytes by vino
[23:22] <adubz> but not logging bc i need a module
[23:22] <entombed> I just downloaded the Ubuntu installer lol
[23:22] <DropSQL> astraljava: it's 2 errors: http://paste2.org/p/1542027
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> entombed: if you used the try option then ran the installer, you can
[23:23] <Pin> Hi guys, where can i get more software for Ubuntu other than the Ubuntu Software Center?
[23:23] <entombed> k
[23:23] <urbanlime> Pin: try searching for some debian packages
[23:23] <entombed> my stupid drive doesn't support TRIM and its running slower than PATA
[23:23] <entombed> :(
[23:23] <TBotNik> exutux: Reboot knocked out the eth0 entirely. nothing there in ifconfig now.  Is that good?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Pin: you can add a ppa, or compile source etc. there is the playdeb repo for agmes for example
[23:23] <Pin> @urbanlime  , how ? where?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> entombed: pata is fast enough here
[23:24] <Pin> @ action if i add playdeb ppas I can see the games to install in the ubuntu software center?
[23:24] <TBotNik> exutux: Reposting to PB give me a minute.
[23:24] <entombed> I had no better nerd comparisons off the top of my head.
[23:24] <Pin> @actionparsnip *
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Pin: yes it uses the repos/ppas you add and enable
[23:24] <DropSQL> astraljava: help me plz
[23:24] <Pin> thanks
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Pin: if you drop the @ it will actually highlight as normal, useing the @ makes it NOT work
[23:25] <haruair> hello~
[23:25] <Kuwanger> Is there a way to profile the kernel, through systemtap, oprofile, or something else, without having to d/l the ~500MB of debugging symbols?
[23:26] <willystylee> hello, i just installed ubuntu server 10.04 on a spare machine and for some reason when i turn the machine on it shows the hp splash screen then when grub starts it eventually turns off the monitor after a few seconds.. how can i fix this?
[23:27] <astraljava> DropSQL: I'm afraid there are few git experts here, have you tried #git?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> willystylee: add the boot option: nomodeset   may help
[23:27] <willystylee> @action how do i do that?
[23:27] <ciss> willystylee: try holding shift as soon as the hp splash screen disappears. you should see the grub boot menu after a few seconds
[23:27] <willystylee> ok
[23:28] <willystylee> :) ty ill try that
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | willystylee you should try researching instead of immediately asking
[23:28] <DropSQL> astraljava: #git is empty
[23:28] <astraljava> DropSQL: Huh? 783 users.
[23:28] <willystylee> thank you
[23:29] <TBotNik> All: PB at: http://pastebin.com/AeQ8JdPV
[23:29] <that> i lost a hotmail account to a virus .  what is the best way to scan hotmail for virus
[23:30] <TBotNik> exutux: Need to ask some specific Q's
[23:30] <sudokill> that, use gmail hotmail sucks
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> that: hotmail scans emails for viruses for you
[23:30] <ciss> willystylee: if that doesn't work, boot from the ubuntu server cd, select the rescue system and follow the steps (don't worry, they will not overwrite any of your server settings). you'll finally get a shell with your root system mounted and be able to take a look at the logs
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: why does hotail suck?
[23:31] <that> i agree with u but i have 2 other accounts i need to get the stuff off of
[23:31] <exutux> TBotNik: eth0 is down why is commented "auto eth0" and at boot it isn't ready...
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> that: have you emailed the admins?
[23:31] <sudokill> ActionParsnip, all me and everyone i know got was forwarded spam to all ocntacts with hotmail, i know you can disable it but still. its fugly and slow too
[23:31] <sudokill> and gmail has better spam filter
[23:32] <that> oh yeah  take 24 days of mail back and forth no  fone support
[23:32] <exutux> TBotNik: so if you type dhclient eth0 you can get an ip? and looks which is the server that get ip to eth0
[23:32] <exutux> TBotNik: or look in /var/log/syslog
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: maybe you gave your address out too much, never had an issues with it. Only reason I switched was It didn't support using an email client without paying (which isn't an issue now)
[23:32] <Psydoll> im trying to install compiz but is it available from the repositories if anyone knows?
[23:32] <tobiassjosten> Does anyone know how to enable ACL for my eCryptFS home directory?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> that: worth it if you want your stuff....
[23:33] <TBotNik> exutux: You said I should uncomment the line shown as # 22 in the PB.  You said I needed to add "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" after line 23 in PB.  What about line #25?  I'm thinking the value "inet" is the wrong value.  What should it be?
[23:33] <that> no  had a trojan in an email that hotmail didnt catch
[23:33] <voidspace> I would like to install a package from a specific ppa from launchpad
[23:33] <sudokill> that, try gmail if you can. its better in every way
[23:33] <voidspace> the package shadows a system package name
[23:34] <that> can i download the mail to my puter an scan it ?
[23:34] <voidspace> so I've added the ppa using add-apt-repository
[23:34] <sudokill> that, a virus in an email wont mess up your email account itself
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> that: sure, you can use one of the many email clients and scan it once its pulled down
[23:34] <exutux> TBotNik: line 25 is right but you need uncommented auto eth0 if you need eth0 ready at boot
[23:34] <voidspace> how do I tell if the apt-get install will use the system package or the one from the new ppa?
[23:35] <that> no  i lhad an account closed cause the virus was spamming
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> voidspace: it will use the one with the latest version number by default
[23:35] <voidspace> ActionParsnip: ah well, that solves that
[23:35] <voidspace> ActionParsnip: thank you
[23:35] <that> whats the best virus an spam client for lucid ?
[23:35] <exutux> TBotNik: yeah and wlan0 need iface wlan0 inet dhcp ( or static with ip, subnet and gw) down auto wlan0
[23:36] <carl_> hi folks, with any luck you can help me with two issues I have today. 1: Got compiz on my system, after finding out it's the thing that gave me the zoom in and out function. Now, I distinctly remember in previous releases, I could zoom in and out by holding down super button and using the scrll wheel. I tried to configure it but it wouldn't let me. So I have to use left and right mouse buttons. I'd like to use the scroll wheel. After all
[23:36] <carl_> , how long have we had scroll wheels on mice?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> that: there is no single best app for anything in any OS
[23:36] <voidspace> awesome, it worked
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> carl_: look in ccsm
[23:37] <that> ok 'snip  any suggestions /
[23:37] <that> ?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> that: evolution uses a spam filter
[23:37] <carl_> actionparsnip: Yeah, I'm in there. I spin the wheel, nothing happens.
[23:38] <sudokill> that, i think theres clamav
[23:38] <carl_> can I say, type in "scroolwheelup and it'll understand?"
[23:38] <that> so how can i make sure i dont send any bugs to anyone using win
[23:38] <sudokill> that, you sure no one tried to bruteforce your account? mine got closed because of that
[23:38] <OwenLA7QZ> Hi. Anyone know how to migrate e-mails from Sylpheed to Evolution?
[23:39] <that> well sudo  i dont know for sure microsoft not saying
[23:39] <sudokill> that, why cant you switch to gmail?
[23:39] <that> they just sayin the account sendin unauthorized mail
[23:40] <that> i can
[23:40]  * carl_ can think the whole google adsense, spying on your emails, is a big reason not to use gmail.
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> OwenLA7QZ: may help http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/evolution/2004-October/040115.html
[23:40] <that>  but i have a couple other hotmails i need to get
[23:41] <sudokode> wasn't hotmail deprecated by snail mail?
[23:41] <that> pleny of tools to keep google from spyin
[23:41] <that> yeah snailmail better
[23:42] <carl_> oh, don't get me wrong, I use googlesharing, but I'm trying to shift away from gmail. I did have this plan to use it to store things online but I never bothered, and well, I'm opposed to anything cloudy
[23:42] <sudokill> carl_, dont be so paranoid
[23:42] <that> not like dropbox?
[23:42] <OwenLA7QZ> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll read that. :) A friend of mine needs to migrate Outlook to Evolution... And he doesn't have a windows box...
[23:42] <sudokill> the google paranoia thing is old
[23:43] <Odaym> can I remove Unity?
[23:43] <OwenLA7QZ> ActionParsnip: I guess his problem is bigger than mine.
[23:43] <alex--> Odaym: you can't just remove it
[23:43] <sudokill> Odaym, use the classic interface
[23:43] <Odaym> because it is not just a layer that sits upon Gnome, is it?
[23:43] <OwenLA7QZ> Odaym: Don't need to remove it. Just log out and then in again with classic.
[23:43] <carl_> hey, I happen to like the cartoons they do on scroogle. But I didn't come here to talk about the finer points of online surveillance. What I want to know is, how can I get compiz to zoom in and out with the scroll wheel?
[23:44] <OwenLA7QZ> Odaym: On the wife's desktop we got really weird distortion of fonts in Unity. No problem in classic
[23:44] <ciss> carl_: seen this? :) http://consumerist.com/2011/07/google-deletes-last-7-years-of-users-digital-life-shrugs.html
[23:44] <that> i use trackball no help here
[23:44] <ciss> carl_: did you install compiz-settings-manager ?
[23:45] <Odaym> what's that expression again? "hear it from the mouth of the ...goat" ?
[23:45] <Odaym> or something
[23:45] <ciss> sorry, "compizconfig-settings-manager"
[23:46] <Odaym> or "straight from the <blank>'s mouth"
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> OwenLA7QZ: you may be able to use PST files, I don't use any email client personally
[23:47] <carl_> ciss: I got CCSM, yes. I have it open right now
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Odaym: horses
[23:47] <OwenLA7QZ> ActionParsnip: OK. He's in Ireland so he went to be. I'll see if I can help him tomorrow.
[23:47] <OwenLA7QZ> Thanks.
[23:47] <that> this for carl  "anonymiser"  deb http://debian.anonymous-proxy-servers.net DISTRI main
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> OwenLA7QZ: I'm in England :)
[23:48]  * OwenLA7QZ thinks ActionParsnip is burning the midnight oil...
[23:48] <ciss> carl_: which zoom plugin are you using?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> OwenLA7QZ: i'll be up a while, i'm on noghts soon so need to spin my body clock round
[23:50] <carl_> ciss: I'm using CCSM, compiz, comthing, settings manager
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> carl_: config ;)
[23:50] <OwenLA7QZ> ActionParsnip: OK. I'm about to log out here. Watch a movie, get some rest. Wife is in Italy for a week so I'm bored stiff.
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> OwenLA7QZ: porn sorts out stiffness
[23:51] <carl_> I dunno what I had in the previous version, 9.10 maybe, but that came with the install right off, and I could zoom in and out just using the scroll wheel. I've been in the config, and it won't recognise the scroll wheel!
[23:51] <ciss> carl_: scroll wheel should be buttons 4 and 5 (if i remember right)
[23:51] <Windows_> hi
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> hi Windows_
[23:52] <OwenLA7QZ> ActionParsnip: I'll take that under advicement. GOt to go now. Thanks for your help.
[23:52] <ciss> carl_: try it with a simple click first (e.g. button 2)
[23:52] <conor_> i'm experiencing an issue where 'key repeat' is being disabled at seemingly random intervals in 10.04, but when I go to System->Preferences->Keyboard, the option is enabled despite the actual behavior. found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/272293, but this seems to be related to older releases. any one else seen this issue?
[23:52] <Terabyte> hi, i have a key which is used to login to a server, i'm trying to load it into pageant and i'm getting Couldn't load this key (OpenSSH SSH-2 private key)  any ideas?
[23:53] <carl_> Ciss: Yep! It is buttons 4 and 5. Much better
[23:53] <ciss> happy to help :)
[23:54] <that> well tha tha thats all folks
[23:54] <willystylee> @ciss ok i read the op of that thread about "How to permanently set kernel boot options". But that thread is with a gui in mind, i have no gui. is there a way to do this ALL over terminal?
[23:54] <carl_> Ok, second issue, not sure if you guys can help as some others haven't got experience of it. I have an Asus AT3ION-T motherboard, has a VGA and HDMI out. VGA works fine. Can't get HDMI to work. Nvidia X settings will not identify my telly, which is plugged in via HDMI
[23:55] <ciss> willystylee: in your boot menu, you can press "e" to edit an entry and add the option temporarily (it might read "linux", not "kernel")
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> carl_: is the hdmi enabled in BIOS?
[23:55] <Mariorockspants> Does ubuntu show the low battery notification? cause my windows 7 pc doesn't i'm on the pc right now...  but does ubuntu show the notification?
[23:55] <willystylee> yes, i did that, i am in my single boot with the nomodeset added, i want to set it permanent
[23:55] <Mariorockspants> and my pc is a laptop..
[23:55] <ciss> willystylee: after that you'll have to edit the grub config and run update-grub
[23:56] <willystylee> but over terminal, how do i do this
[23:56] <Mariorockspants> does ubuntu show the low battery notification on a laptop
[23:56] <carl_> yes, HDMI is enabled, and tested working. I had windows 7 on this system before I put linux on, as I got fed up with how windows 7 worked
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Mariorockspants: never seen a desktop PC with a battery like a laptop...
[23:56] <Odaym> is classic mode on Ubuntu Gnome 3 with Unity disabled?
[23:56] <ciss> willystylee: there are several guides on the net for configuring grub
[23:56] <Mariorockspants> ActionParsnip I'm on a laptop..
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> carl_: if you boot with just the HDMI attached, do you get any display?
[23:57] <Mariorockspants> ActionParsnip: I am on a laptop.
[23:57] <ciss> Odaym: you should be able to select classic mode on the login screen (look at the bottom)
[23:58] <Odaym> that wasn't my question
[23:58] <Odaym> I was asking if that mode which you select at GDM consists of Gnome 3 with Unity disabled
[23:58] <Mariorockspants> I'm getting tired of windows 7's look :(
[23:58] <willystylee> @ciss can you direct me to one? my google searches arent bringing a proper page up
[23:58] <carl_> I haven't tried that yet. I will tomorrow, I'm chatting with a friend right now and I don't want to say "Sorry, hold that thought, going to reboot."
[23:58] <spankbot> I've factory reset an iPod Nano.. then mounted it.  Using Nautilus I deleted all the files/folders in the iPod.  I started Rythmbox and was prompted to "Initialize" the device.  Did it and synced successfully.  When I diconnect the iPod there are no songs, but connected it back to Rythmbox and the playlist that I synced displays.
[23:58] <ray24> Hey man, i was wondering if anyone know how to make ubuntu work on linux
[23:59] <gueriLLaPunK> I have 9.10 and was wondering why copy and paste doesn't work? I can't copy and paste text from the viewer to the server and vise versa.
[23:59] <exutux> willystylee: nano /etc/default/grub  edit it, save and run update-grub then rebbot
[23:59] <gueriLLaPunK> running windows 7 on the viewer
[23:59] <gueriLLaPunK> RealVNC viewer
[23:59] <Mariorockspants> Does ubuntu have viruses? :P
[23:59] <exutux> reboot*
[23:59] <ray24> Yes, it's called natty