| dodgefan67 | it starts with a core system and you add what you want, xorg, gnome, kde, xfce, whatever | 00:00 |
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| dodgefan67 | everything command line | 00:00 |
| dodgefan67 | its a great way to learn how a linux OS can work | 00:01 |
| philipballew | seemes like you gain knowlege then? | 00:01 |
| dodgefan67 | oh yeah | 00:01 |
| philipballew | ill have to try this sometime | 00:02 |
| dodgefan67 | i mean they do things the Arch way, but i have learned a great deal about fstab, startup scripts, inittab, etc | 00:02 |
| philipballew | whats the arch way? haha | 00:03 |
| tdignan | Doing everything yourself, even if it's a tedious detail that won't matter later. | 00:03 |
| xfcer | I have a problem setting a .jar program I downloaded to executable, I see no option to when I select properties. Can anyone help me? | 00:03 |
| dodgefan67 | well for one they use an rc.conf file for a lot of configuration stuff | 00:04 |
| philipballew | did you install javj runtime engine xfcer ? | 00:04 |
| dodgefan67 | where other distros have that stuff in more than one file, like slackware | 00:04 |
| philipballew | slackware is nice to | 00:04 |
| xfcer | I don't believe I've installed any java apps, I'm honestly just trying to run minecraft on a new xubuntu install | 00:04 |
| tdignan | with both arch and slackware you will spend just as much time maintaining your system as you will using it. | 00:05 |
| xfcer | and if memory serves, the unselected executable bit is a feature in ubuntu isn't it? | 00:05 |
| philipballew | minecraft... | 00:05 |
| philipballew | i can help | 00:05 |
| tdignan | xfcer: you can run it with java -jar | 00:05 |
| tdignan | xfcer: maybe you can tell xfce to "open with" java -jar. | 00:05 |
| philipballew | xfcer, i think you need the sun java runtime engine | 00:06 |
| xfcer | I have a ubuntu install on another machine, and I never needed to install anything extra java related | 00:07 |
| xfcer | when I attempt to start it, I just get a warning about the executable potentially being an unsecure force and stuff | 00:08 |
| tdignan | xfcer: open a terminal, type java. What do you see? | 00:08 |
| xfcer | I have java 1.6.0_22 installed | 00:09 |
| xfcer | after typing java -version | 00:09 |
| philipballew | instructions from the minecraft site. | 00:10 |
| philipballew | Download Minecraft.jar, an executable jar file. It might work as-is. | 00:10 |
| philipballew | If you run into out of memory errors, try launching it with java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame | 00:10 |
| philipballew | Also, please make sure you're running the Sun JVM... | 00:10 |
| tdignan | Yeah, you are using open jdk. | 00:10 |
| tdignan | I know so, because you had the '-version' switch. | 00:10 |
| philipballew | http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp | 00:10 |
| xfcer | yeah, that's what I'm running | 00:10 |
| knome | philipballew, remember that we have !pastebin for multi-line pastes/inpupts :) | 00:10 |
| knome | -p | 00:10 |
| tdignan | http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html | 00:10 |
| tdignan | get that ^ | 00:10 |
| xfcer | ah, thank you | 00:11 |
| philipballew | i didnt know it would be big :) | 00:11 |
| tdignan | uninstall openjdk, and set the JAVA_HOME env | 00:11 |
| tdignan | in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile | 00:11 |
| tdignan | also PATH. | 00:11 |
| knome | philipballew, no problem, just accidentally noticed the short non-one-liner paste :) | 00:11 |
| dodgefan67 | so Oracle's JAVA is not in the multiverse repository? | 00:12 |
| dodgefan67 | i installed libreoffice and i have openjre? | 00:13 |
| tdignan | no, it's not | 00:15 |
| tdignan | yep | 00:15 |
| tdignan | wait, perhaps multiverse, but | 00:15 |
| dodgefan67 | sorry xfcer, didnt mean to hijack your question | 00:16 |
| tdignan | I don't think it is. | 00:16 |
| dodgefan67 | ive searched for jre and dont see it | 00:16 |
| tdignan | i thought so | 00:16 |
| tdignan | I've got it installed because it's officially supported by the android sdk. | 00:17 |
| tdignan | I just keep it in ~/Tools, with all my other non-standard stuff. | 00:17 |
| tdignan | ls ~/Tools | 00:17 |
| tdignan | oops. | 00:17 |
| xfcer | oh, it's alright | 00:17 |
| dodgefan67 | thanks everyone, i'll be seeing you around! | 00:24 |
| dodgefan67 | hey, just wanted to pop back in and say that you need the icedtea-plugin for java to work in the browser, at least i did | 00:32 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| hrw | hi | 08:06 |
| hrw | does someone uses 11.10 'oneiric' with xfce? | 08:06 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| Sysi | gnome-mplayer plays this one music-cd fine, but sound-juicer says "can't get track listing, not mounted" | 13:22 |
| Sysi | is this some DRM fault or what could be wrong? | 13:22 |
| Sysi | both work well for other music cd | 13:23 |
| knome | Sysi, i've had similar problems with many cd's lately | 13:23 |
| Sysi | also dd from /dev/sr0 gave I/O error | 13:23 |
| knome | that i don't know, did you try asunder? | 13:23 |
| knome | (or any other ripping software) | 13:23 |
| Sysi | not yet, but I will after re-ripping this other | 13:24 |
| knome | it's not a few cd's, it's maybe 90% of the cd's i rip, and i tend to rip quite a lot | 13:25 |
| Sysi | I have few more to try.. | 13:26 |
| knome | it might also be those public library scratched cd's ;) | 13:26 |
| Sysi | that should affect plauback too, these were in quite nice condition | 13:27 |
| Sysi | I'll try reboot for the sake of HAL | 13:27 |
| Sysi | only the CD first inserted after boot works | 13:27 |
| knome | hah | 13:28 |
| knome | just try any other ripping software... | 13:28 |
| nsuff | I've just lost my title bars and footers from all application windows. Anyone got a clue why, or how to get them back? | 13:32 |
| Sysi | what, asunder looks exatly the same but it's faster and betterly translated | 13:33 |
| knome | Sysi, it forces a year from the release it thinks must be the correct one | 13:35 |
| knome | Sysi, eg. if imdb says there must be only one release to match your cd, the tracks get that year, and you can't change it | 13:35 |
| Sysi | I never care about the year :P | 13:36 |
| Sysi | I have badly-tagged music anyway | 13:36 |
| knome | it also forces a genre, if you delete the genre, it will fill the genre field with some nonsense, not leave it empty | 13:36 |
| Sysi | I never look that either, but I can set it | 13:37 |
| Sysi | this can only do 245Kbps mp3 | 13:38 |
| Sysi | ah, VBR limits it, wonder what that actually means | 13:38 |
| Sysi | (variable bitrate but what does it *do*) | 13:39 |
| knome | Sysi, when the encoding needs to use a higher bitrate, it does, and when it doesn't, it doesn't. vbr 245kpbs means that 245kbps is the average bitrate per frame. | 13:41 |
| Sysi | smaller files with high quality, I'll keep my 320 | 13:42 |
| knome | vbr is usually files. | 13:42 |
| knome | errr | 13:42 |
| knome | s/files/wise/ | 13:42 |
| knome | but however you like | 13:42 |
| Sysi | also this apparently rips to wav and then converts that to mp3, is that normal? | 13:43 |
| knome | no idea | 13:43 |
| Sysi | or thunar fails | 13:43 |
| fpihl | hi guys, boot-time is fast on my crappy laptop, but it takes close to a minute when login in till I see my desktop. Then I'm met with 10 instances of this message "No running instance of xfce4-panel was found" What | 14:02 |
| fpihl | any advice on which files to check to find problem? | 14:03 |
| madnick | plantoschka: perhaps add xfce4-panel to startup | 14:04 |
| fpihl | already there... | 14:04 |
| madnick | hm | 14:04 |
| madnick | is xfwm running? | 14:05 |
| plantoschka | ? | 14:05 |
| fpihl | not sure, don't see a pid | 14:06 |
| fpihl | in.config/autostart I have xfce-panel.desktop. other places to check? | 14:07 |
| madnick | I had a similar problem recently, i just loaded a new configuration by renaming the old, not optimal i guess | 14:08 |
| fpihl | you mean rename .config/ and the reboot? | 14:09 |
| madnick | not .config | 14:09 |
| madnick | but | 14:09 |
| madnick | i renamed xfce4 | 14:10 |
| madnick | in .config | 14:10 |
| fpihl | ah, I'll give that a shot... | 14:11 |
| fpihl | I'm back, reneming ./config/xfce4 did not solve the issue. See http://askubuntu.com/questions/50984/xubuntu-slow-login-and-multiple-instances-of-xfce4-panel for some screenshots | 14:20 |
| madnick | what does it say in Settings->Session and startup | 14:24 |
| fpihl | xfce-panel is checked. Should I look for anything else? | 14:26 |
| madnick | Dont acctually know, what I thought was happening was | 14:26 |
| madnick | The session was saved, running several xfce4-panels, that failed when you logged in again since always running or similar | 14:27 |
| madnick | But that is clearly not the case | 14:27 |
| fpihl | Is that even possible, since only 1 instance of xfce-panel is allowed to be running? | 14:28 |
| madnick | thus the problem | 14:29 |
| fpihl | :-) | 14:29 |
| fpihl | thanks for your help though, I'll continue to see if I can solve this... | 14:30 |
| madnick | good luck | 14:30 |
| fpihl | madnick: (if you're still here) solved the problem by clearing the session cache ( ~/.cache/sessions/...) | 14:50 |
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| gNewPower | Hi! How can I make XFCE show me a short message to tell me which desktop I am on when I switch desktops? Thanks | 15:15 |
| gNewPower | Hi! How can I make XFCE show me a short message to tell me which desktop I am on when I switch desktops? Thanks | 16:09 |
| Sysi | no need to repeat, xfce window manager doesn't offer that but you could try openbox for example | 16:10 |
| gNewPower | Sysi, thanks | 16:10 |
| Sysi | install it and run openbox --replace | 16:10 |
| gNewPower | k, thanks. | 16:11 |
| nullm0dem | ralink = trash :-/ | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 45 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 18:14 |
| charlie-tca | Meeting time in #xubuntu-devel | 18:59 |
| jnsl_ | ristretto next button is grayed out always | 21:28 |
| Sysi | set it up to open entire folder when you open image, or use space key (for first switch) | 21:30 |
| knome | Sysi, afaik there is NO WAY to make ristretto open a folder, except from it's file menu (OMG!) | 21:30 |
| Sysi | knome: iirc by default it opens just a single image | 21:31 |
| Sysi | though I'm not sure if it was like than on xubuntu | 21:31 |
| knome | Sysi, yes, but there is no CLI parameter either. i just checked that a few days ago | 21:31 |
| Sysi | knome: well I have it opening all pics from folder, it's one tap in settings | 21:32 |
| knome | Sysi, where? | 21:33 |
| knome | oh right | 21:33 |
| Sysi | I don't have new xubuntu in hand but it wasn't really hidden | 21:33 |
| knome | BOO for me.. | 21:33 |
| knome | yeah | 21:33 |
| knome | it was hidden enough | 21:33 |
| knome | and it's weird that there is no CLI option for that... | 21:33 |
| knome | to override the default | 21:33 |
| IrrationlArtist | Hello, then? | 23:53 |
| IrrationlArtist | Anyone there? | 23:53 |
| GridCube | yep | 23:54 |
| GridCube | !ask | 23:54 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 23:54 |
| GridCube | !anyone | 23:54 |
| ubottu | A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 23:54 |
| GridCube | :D hello IrrationlArtist | 23:54 |
| GridCube | whats your problem :) | 23:54 |
| IrrationlArtist | Okay, I've tried several times to compile the Gwibber 3.2.1 beta on Xubuntu natty, and cannot do it. Too much of a command line n00b to know the exact problem, but I know it's something with dependencies. Can't fix it. Any ideas? | 23:55 |
| IrrationlArtist | Everywhere else has been dead silent on advice, so I'd thought I'd try here :) | 23:55 |
| knome | IrrationlArtist, can you paste the output to pastebin? | 23:56 |
| knome | !pastebin | 23:56 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 23:56 |
| IrrationlArtist | Hmmm... Okay. | 23:56 |
| knome | then we'll be able to help out more | 23:56 |
| IrrationlArtist | Sorry, gotta re-dl the source, I seem to have deleted it. | 23:58 |
| * GridCube gotta go home now | 23:59 | |
| charlie-tca | Why not use gwibber from the repositories or ppa? | 23:59 |
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