| RAOF | Viper550: Yeah, you need to install gnome-tweak-tool to twiddle those knobs. | 00:05 |
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| Viper550 | RAOF, I know ... but gnome-tweak-tool has shell and the like as its dependencies | 00:05 |
| RAOF | Yeah. That doesn't bother me though. We should end up with something better than gnome-tweak-tool, though. | 00:06 |
| thumper | phew... | 03:19 |
| thumper | everything is working again | 03:19 |
| jeffrash | quick question about the notification area in Unity. | 04:05 |
| jeffrash | I've run into several apps that there icons just do not display in Unity | 04:06 |
| jeffrash | is there a plan to address that problem? | 04:06 |
| jeffrash | or are you going to require the individual app developer to add support for unity? | 04:06 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:21 |
| oSoMoN | good morning | 07:00 |
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| andyrock | njpatel, around? | 12:35 |
| njpatel | andyrock, hey | 12:36 |
| njpatel | andyrock, did you have a chance to update your branch? | 12:36 |
| andyrock | njpatel, i solved all conflicts (too many conflicts!) in ldevice branch | 12:36 |
| njpatel | andyrock, nice! | 12:37 |
| * njpatel looks | 12:37 | |
| andyrock | njpatel, My brother graduated a few days ago so i had no too much time, but i did | 12:37 |
| njpatel | andyrock, no worries, dude, family > code ;) | 12:38 |
| njpatel | andyrock, I have one meeting now but I'll merge this right after, thank you! | 12:38 |
| andyrock | njpatel, thank you too :) goog meeting... see you | 12:39 |
| njpatel | andyrock, merged, thank you :D | 12:52 |
| andyrock | njpatel, thx you againg :) | 12:53 |
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| andyrock | JohnLea, ping | 13:33 |
| JohnLea | andyrock, pong | 13:35 |
| andyrock | JohnLea, about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/750311 | 13:36 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 750311 in unity "Launcher - When a item is deleted by dragging to Trash, the trash should pulse once before the Launcher disappears" [Low,In progress] | 13:36 |
| andyrock | could you give me more information? | 13:36 |
| andyrock | for example the color of the background... | 13:36 |
| JohnLea | andyrock; The pulse should be one cycle of the 'loading' pulse, same background colour, same in all respects other than it only pulses once | 13:37 |
| andyrock | JohnLea, ok... it should pulse only if the dragged item belong to launcher? | 13:39 |
| JohnLea | andyrock; it should pulse in response to both normal files being moved into the trash, launcher items being removed, and usb key's ejected. Basically it should always pulse | 13:40 |
| andyrock | JohnLea, ok ok... thx! | 13:41 |
| JohnLea | andyrock; no thank you ;-) | 13:41 |
| andyrock | JohnLea, mmm... i cannot test dnd from destkop to launcher trash icon as it is break in trunk! | 13:53 |
| andyrock | someone could confirm? ^^^ | 13:53 |
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| om26er | DBO, is current ctrl+tab switcher supposed to move to alt+tab ? | 14:22 |
| DBO | om26er, when it is feature complete yes | 14:22 |
| om26er | DBO, thx, its looking good btw :) | 14:23 |
| andyrock | someone could tell me how build unity-window-decorator from sources? | 15:03 |
| andyrock | i get errors... | 15:03 |
| mgedmin | andyrock, if you could paste the build log somewhere like http://paste.ubuntu.com/, we might hazard a guess | 15:15 |
| andyrock | http://paste.ubuntu.com/652472/ | 15:17 |
| andyrock | mgedmin, ??? | 15:17 |
| andyrock | ^^^ | 15:17 |
| mgedmin | okay, I haven't seen that one | 15:17 |
| mgedmin | does it help if you try 'make' without -j2 ? | 15:18 |
| * mgedmin <- not a unity developer, just a bystander | 15:18 | |
| andyrock | i think not... -j2 is for using two core :) | 15:18 |
| mgedmin | yes, but some makefiles are buggy and do not support parallel builds | 15:20 |
| mgedmin | and since I didn't see any errors about missing include files, I've no other ideas why those types would be undefined | 15:20 |
| mgedmin | perhaps one of the knowledgeable people will wake up and be able to help you better | 15:21 |
| andyrock | i've tried without -j2 but i get anyway the error | 15:22 |
| njpatel | andyrock, you did sudo apt-get build-dep compiz? | 15:24 |
| jcastro | andyrock: hi! Looking for me earlier, sorry I've been moving house for the past week, I am back now though | 15:25 |
| njpatel | andyrock, jcastro is lying, he's a slacker! | 15:26 |
| jcastro | njpatel: no more vacations for you, when you leave no one merges! | 15:26 |
| njpatel | I had a vacation? I was unwell! | 15:27 |
| njpatel | jcastro, it's weird, right? Like they forget *every* week | 15:27 |
| jcastro | njpatel: right, holiday, sick, whatever. :) | 15:28 |
| jcastro | j/k glad to have you back | 15:28 |
| jcastro | njpatel: anything notable over the last 2 weeks? We're working on the report now | 15:28 |
| didrocks | jcastro: I updated the desktop team meeting report in case it can help | 15:28 |
| njpatel | jcastro, andyrock's device stuff is in, first cut of alt+tab (well, ctrl+tab right now), lots more fixes, | 15:29 |
| njpatel | jcastro, the real fun starts from this and next week ;) | 15:29 |
| jcastro | heh | 15:30 |
| jcastro | http://pad.ubuntu.com/unity-report-26Jul | 15:31 |
| jcastro | I just need to add the desktop team report bits | 15:32 |
| jcastro | njpatel: check it out | 15:32 |
| njpatel | jcastro, perfecto | 15:34 |
| andyrock | njpatel, smspillaz is helping about unity window decorator | 15:35 |
| njpatel | andyrock, sweet | 15:35 |
| jcastro | DBO: does the download bar and emblem stuff all work on new alt-tab? | 15:58 |
| jcastro | if you have a screenshot handy that would be awesome | 15:58 |
| njpatel | jcastro, ping me | 16:06 |
| jcastro | njpatel: ping | 16:07 |
| njpatel | jcastro, at least the emblem works | 16:07 |
| njpatel | jcastro, what uses the progress stuff? | 16:08 |
| njpatel | i can make a screenshot, dbo is at the dentist | 16:08 |
| jcastro | ubuntu one does | 16:08 |
| jcastro | oh | 16:09 |
| jcastro | and update-manager | 16:09 |
| njpatel | okay, ping me again | 16:09 |
| jcastro | njpatel: ping | 16:09 |
| njpatel | jcastro, so no download yet, let me give you the shot, hold up | 16:10 |
| njpatel | jcastro, http://goo.gl/AkGfF | 16:11 |
| jcastro | what's up with that xchat icon? | 16:13 |
| Trevinho | Oh, I'm just arrived at home... Meeting in progress? :P | 16:14 |
| njpatel | jcastro, needs a nicer one | 16:14 |
| njpatel | jcastro, we're going to see a lot of that now with this new switcher...maybe it'll kick some people up the butt to make nice icons :) | 16:14 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, ! | 16:15 |
| njpatel | how are you dude? | 16:15 |
| Trevinho | Fine thanks njpatel | 16:15 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, ted told me about the middle-click stuf on the indicator...very cool idea | 16:15 |
| njpatel | (tying it to a menuitem) | 16:16 |
| Trevinho | ehehe | 16:16 |
| Trevinho | It was a very asked thing | 16:16 |
| njpatel | yep | 16:16 |
| Trevinho | I've implemented it in all the framework... unity and unity-2d included :P | 16:16 |
| njpatel | i saw...nice one! | 16:16 |
| Trevinho | Also if actually just the indicator-sound uses it | 16:16 |
| njpatel | but appindicator supports it too right? | 16:17 |
| Trevinho | I'd like to use also for other stuffs, like the nautilus progress dialog, or other indicators | 16:17 |
| njpatel | so it's available to everyone | 16:17 |
| jcastro | njpatel: the app icons I'm not as worried about as I am of webapp icons, which look horrible even on the launcher, let alone alt-tab | 16:17 |
| Trevinho | to get faster user experience | 16:17 |
| Trevinho | yes njpatel | 16:17 |
| Trevinho | but an appindicator must associate a menuitem to that signal | 16:17 |
| njpatel | yep | 16:17 |
| njpatel | i really like that | 16:17 |
| Trevinho | so we're sure that an option is available also as menu-item | 16:17 |
| Trevinho | and not only as a secnodary-activate "plus" | 16:18 |
| njpatel | right | 16:18 |
| Trevinho | Basically a gtk widget that can be activated, that is enabled, visible and clickable and that is a child of the main menu can be used | 16:19 |
| Trevinho | Unfortunately working on this stuff involves to work on many, many projects, but we must do that | 16:20 |
| Trevinho | jcastro: can you include the indicator secondary-activate support in report too? | 16:21 |
| Trevinho | :P | 16:21 |
| jcastro | is that the middle click thing? | 16:21 |
| jcastro | I've already submitted it, mind if I just put it in next week's? | 16:22 |
| Trevinho | Already submitted? Ah, I didn't read | 16:22 |
| Trevinho | Ah, jcastro this week I also resumed the support for scrolling over the indicators which was broken... | 16:22 |
| jcastro | ok, from now on idle here and I'll ping you before hand. :) | 16:23 |
| jcastro | I always miss something you're working on, heh | 16:23 |
| Trevinho | No problem... | 16:24 |
| Trevinho | Ah, and for unity-2d there's also a fix for supporting scrolling over the indicators (that has never worked before) | 16:24 |
| jcastro | Trevinho: oh I know, when it comes up on OMG just leave a comment with all the goodies | 16:25 |
| jcastro | njpatel: man dude, the overflow collapsing on the alt-tab is so nice | 16:26 |
| jcastro | it's like a sideways launcher | 16:26 |
| Trevinho | Ah, ok... No problem... I just want you to know them, since you don't have to think I'm sleeping :D | 16:26 |
| jcastro | Trevinho: it's ok, we all know you're working harder than tedg | 16:27 |
| Trevinho | lol... No, tedg is my mentor and improves all my things! :) | 16:28 |
| njpatel | jcastro, exactly :) | 16:29 |
| Trevinho | njpatel: I've also started working on something about panelview and indicators | 16:30 |
| API | didrocks, njpatel after an update I was not able to start the system using unity, I'm not talking about the repositories, it also happens with the deb packages | 16:30 |
| API | is this normal, or something specific to my environment? | 16:30 |
| Trevinho | The entries need to move, and not to be shown "per indicator".... | 16:30 |
| didrocks | API: how long ago was it? | 16:31 |
| didrocks | API: there is a light-themes package which shoul workaround the issue | 16:31 |
| API | didrocks, you mean when I updated the packages? | 16:31 |
| didrocks | yeah :) | 16:31 |
| Trevinho | So that unity-panel-serivice defines the order to show them, while the panel shows them correctly... | 16:31 |
| API | some hours ago | 16:31 |
| didrocks | API: hum, unity didn't change from last Thursday and compiz for a week, you didn't update before? | 16:32 |
| didrocks | API: I guess you are in the case of people who are still impacted even with the workaround | 16:32 |
| didrocks | njpatel: ^^ | 16:32 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, what?! :) | 16:34 |
| njpatel | API, does unity print anything out? | 16:34 |
| API | didrocks, I have the more recent light-themes package | 16:35 |
| didrocks | ok, so you are part of those where it doesn't workaround | 16:36 |
| njpatel | API, do this: | 16:36 |
| njpatel | API, killlall -9 unity-window-decorator; gtk-window-decorator --replace& | 16:36 |
| njpatel | API, killall -9 compiz; compiz --replace&; | 16:36 |
| njpatel | and see what happens | 16:36 |
| API | njpatel, | 16:36 |
| API | http://pastebin.com/85PeAzpm | 16:36 |
| API | output of unity > log.txt | 16:36 |
| API | http://pastebin.com/TEYxAgsf | 16:36 |
| API | output of unity --replace 2> log.txt | 16:36 |
| API | and now I will test your suggestion | 16:37 |
| tedg | njpatel, Using the name_hints to do ordering instead of the just library names. So that things like network manager can be in the proper location. | 16:37 |
| Trevinho | njpatel: As discussed at the UDS session about indicators, there's should be a way to show some "system" appindicators (i.e. nm-applet) in the correct order. As they are app-indicators, and so entries of the indicator appindicator they would be shown in order as the indicator orders them. But there's no way to put some of them between indicator-messages and indicator-datetime (for example). So I'm | 16:38 |
| Trevinho | doing this, as tedg told me that this is something that is just up to unity | 16:38 |
| njpatel | tedg, Trevinho sounds like fun | 16:38 |
| njpatel | tremolux, sweet | 16:39 |
| API | njpatel, about the first: | 16:39 |
| API | unity-window-decorator: no process found | 16:39 |
| Trevinho | njpatel: Basically I actually done something where the panel service tells to unity the order of each entry (if known) | 16:39 |
| Trevinho | so the panel should respect that given order too | 16:39 |
| njpatel | API, no problem, just start gtk-window-decorator --replace& then | 16:39 |
| njpatel | tremolux, hmm, the order is inferred by the order in which the data is sent | 16:40 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, ^ | 16:40 |
| njpatel | tremolux, sorry :) | 16:40 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, the other issue is that panel expects all entries to stay inside their object | 16:41 |
| njpatel | indicator-object* | 16:41 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, its going to be a bit harder to make that work right :/ | 16:41 |
| Trevinho | I know | 16:41 |
| Trevinho | In fact I was thinking, at the beginning, of crating some "fake" indicator-objects | 16:42 |
| Trevinho | but tedg told me that we should just use the name... | 16:42 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, that would work, you could keep a space for the nm menu | 16:42 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, no, I mean create a "fake" object in the panel-service | 16:43 |
| Trevinho | Yes, but it would be a workaround however... And not only that menu has to be moved | 16:43 |
| njpatel | Trevinho, yep | 16:43 |
| Trevinho | Mh, I'd redesign that completely... | 16:43 |
| njpatel | hmm | 16:43 |
| Trevinho | Mh, I'll try to continue what I've in my mind | 16:43 |
| Trevinho | then if it works I'll show you my code... | 16:43 |
| njpatel | coolio | 16:44 |
| joey | alejandra: ping | 16:45 |
| joey | or dbarth ping | 16:47 |
| joey | nhandler: these are two good contacts for you re: your question ^^ | 16:48 |
| nhandler | alejandra, dbarth: Since I'm going to be running out and I want to minimize the back-and-forth, I'm essentially trying to find a good channel to forward #ubuntu-app-devel too. I was originally thinking to forward it here, but joey didn't feel it would be a good fit. What do you guys think? | 16:54 |
| czajkowski | alejandra: hey you about ?? | 16:55 |
| alejandra | czajkowski, hey laura! | 16:56 |
| czajkowski | alejandra: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/816041 not sure who to assign that to | 16:57 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 816041 in Ubuntu Website "Reason to become a partner is missing " [Undecided,New] | 16:57 |
| alejandra | czajkowski, hey laura, should be in ubuntu-website-content | 16:59 |
| czajkowski | alejandra: for assigning ? | 17:00 |
| alejandra | czajkowski, ellen arnold please | 17:00 |
| alejandra | czajkowski, (new web project manager) | 17:01 |
| czajkowski | won't let me :/ | 17:02 |
| API | njpatel, well, I think that I have waited enough ;), sorry no luck, it gets also frozen, on the terminal the last step that I see is "Initializating session options: done" | 17:03 |
| njpatel | API, hmm, that doesn't make sense :/ | 17:04 |
| njpatel | didrocks, switching gtk-window-decorator didn't work either :/ | 17:04 |
| didrocks | njpatel: hum, weird. API: does using another session, like ubuntu 2d works? | 17:04 |
| API | didrocks, well, I'm right now writing on the IRC, so yes | 17:05 |
| API | I didn't test ubuntu 2D | 17:05 |
| API | GNOME (so gnome-shell) and gnome classic (without effects) | 17:05 |
| API | worked | 17:05 |
| API | AFAIR, gnome classic | 17:05 |
| API | with effects also failed | 17:05 |
| API | I will test it | 17:05 |
| didrocks | API: and starting unity from there? with gtk-w-d from the start? | 17:05 |
| API | didrocks, ok, I will try gnome classic without effects | 17:06 |
| didrocks | (you can change that in ccsm to force this decorator) | 17:06 |
| API | execute gtk-window-decorator by hand | 17:06 |
| API | and then run unity --replace | 17:06 |
| didrocks | yeah, that should work | 17:06 |
| API | ok, I will try | 17:06 |
| * API trying | 17:06 | |
| API | didrocks, well, I have just run unity --replace | 17:08 |
| API | but it seems frozen again | 17:08 |
| didrocks | API: did you run the gtk-w-d before? | 17:08 |
| API | that should work fine or it is normal waiting for some time | 17:09 |
| API | didrocks, yes I executed gtk-window-decorator before | 17:09 |
| API | that should work fine or it is normal waiting for some time ? | 17:09 |
| * API I forget that question mark | 17:09 | |
| didrocks | yeah, it should work | 17:09 |
| API | :/ | 17:09 |
| didrocks | njpatel: seems there is another issue then ^^ | 17:09 |
| API | fwiw using top | 17:10 |
| API | compiz consumes 95-100% CPU | 17:10 |
| njpatel | wtf | 17:10 |
| didrocks | yeah, seems related to the latest compiz then | 17:10 |
| API | and btw, I also had some problems with gnome-settings-daemon | 17:10 |
| API | well, in order to add more info now, recently I moved to 64 bits | 17:11 |
| API | althouth some weeks ago when I bought | 17:11 |
| API | it | 17:11 |
| API | I was able to get unity running here | 17:11 |
| API | njpatel, didrocks gdb backtrace of the frozen compiz | 17:19 |
| API | http://pastebin.com/JeGVMkcF | 17:19 |
| njpatel | jay! | 17:30 |
| njpatel | jaytaoko, dude ^ | 17:30 |
| njpatel | please help API with that | 17:30 |
| API | njpatel, well, the weird thing is that it is happening only to me, as far as I see | 17:31 |
| API | as I said this is using unity & nux from the repositories | 17:31 |
| API | ... | 17:31 |
| API | I will try then with the sources | 17:31 |
| njpatel | API, maybe something is missing or it could just be a memory error, jaytaoko would know for sure | 17:34 |
| Casper8 | Hello | 17:35 |
| Casper8 | I'd like to make developers of unity with access to the code aware of a very easy to fix and confirmed memory leak bug - if this a good place to do so. I'm afraid otherwise this fix won't be included in the 11.10 release, seeing that it such a trivial fix. | 17:39 |
| API | njpatel, ok, anyway I will need to go home soon | 17:42 |
| API | should I send a mail to jay, or just create a bug? | 17:42 |
| njpatel | API, create a bug and assign to jay :) | 17:46 |
| API | njpatel, ok | 17:48 |
| API | and thanks | 17:48 |
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| Casper8 | Any unity coders in here? I've got a one liner fix for a confirmed memory leak bug in unity. | 17:52 |
| andyrock | Casper8, do you have a merging proposal? | 17:53 |
| Casper8 | yes, thanks for your time, here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/812975 | 17:53 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 812975 in unity (Ubuntu) "found memory leak in code" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:53 |
| andyrock | Casper8, this a bug report... you should open a branch | 17:55 |
| Casper8 | oh im sorry, im only responding to a suggestion in the report which pointed me to IRC | 17:56 |
| Casper8 | not sure what to do then, thanks anyway :) | 17:57 |
| andyrock | Casper8, maybe you could ping a unity developer (i'm just a unity community contributor) | 17:58 |
| andyrock | and suggets him your patch... | 17:58 |
| andyrock | but using bzr is better according to me :) | 17:59 |
| Casper8 | andyrock, how do I ping a unity developer? no idea really | 17:59 |
| andyrock | ping + name of the developer :) | 17:59 |
| andyrock | but i can help you with bzr | 17:59 |
| Casper8 | andyrock, I don't want to 'annoy' the developer or be spammy, so if it's not a good idea to this, I'm ok with it being simply in launchpad | 17:59 |
| andyrock | Casper8, indeed | 18:00 |
| andyrock | if you want i can help you in putting your patch in launchpad ;) | 18:00 |
| Casper8 | andyrock, thanks I'll do that | 18:01 |
| andyrock | Casper8, ping me when you need support | 18:01 |
| Casper8 | oh sorry, I misread - can you make a patch for me? I mean it's just one line | 18:01 |
| Casper8 | ok ill make a patch later this week and I can ping you? | 18:02 |
| andyrock | i can make a patch for you if you want but it is not correct and fair :) | 18:04 |
| andyrock | it is better if you make the patch and put it on launchpad | 18:05 |
| andyrock | :) | 18:05 |
| jaytaoko | njpatel: hello | 18:07 |
| Casper8 | andyrock, ok I'll make a patch later this week | 18:08 |
| andyrock | Casper8, ok ok | 18:08 |
| jaytaoko | API: hi! | 18:09 |
| API | jaytaoko, hi | 18:13 |
| API | im planning to create a bug with all the info | 18:14 |
| API | just in case | 18:14 |
| API | before of that I will compile again from the sources | 18:14 |
| jaytaoko | API: What is the problem that you are having? is this a crash? | 18:15 |
| API | jaytaoko, | 18:15 |
| API | no | 18:15 |
| API | compiz get frozen | 18:15 |
| API | I already waited for some minutes | 18:15 |
| API | I included a backtrace | 18:15 |
| API | but it was a backtrace of the compiz running | 18:15 |
| ephan | hey | 18:37 |
| API | jaytaoko, I have just created the bug | 18:42 |
| API | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nux/+bug/816589 | 18:42 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 816589 in Nux "Unity gets frozen on startup" [Undecided,New] | 18:42 |
| API | sorry, I need to go home | 18:42 |
| API | thanks, and by | 18:42 |
| API | e | 18:42 |
| jaytaoko | API: thanks! | 18:42 |
| API | jaytaoko, you are welcome | 18:43 |
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| Trevinho | jaytaoko: did you see my PM :P | 19:39 |
| ephan | I'm just wondering, is there anybody portuguese on this channel? | 19:58 |
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