[00:05] Viper550: Yeah, you need to install gnome-tweak-tool to twiddle those knobs. [00:05] RAOF, I know ... but gnome-tweak-tool has shell and the like as its dependencies [00:06] Yeah. That doesn't bother me though. We should end up with something better than gnome-tweak-tool, though. [03:19] phew... [03:19] everything is working again [04:05] quick question about the notification area in Unity. [04:06] I've run into several apps that there icons just do not display in Unity [04:06] is there a plan to address that problem? [04:06] or are you going to require the individual app developer to add support for unity? [05:21] good morning [07:00] good morning === daker_ is now known as daker === gabon_ is now known as gabon === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:35] njpatel, around? [12:36] andyrock, hey [12:36] andyrock, did you have a chance to update your branch? [12:36] njpatel, i solved all conflicts (too many conflicts!) in ldevice branch [12:37] andyrock, nice! [12:37] * njpatel looks [12:37] njpatel, My brother graduated a few days ago so i had no too much time, but i did [12:38] andyrock, no worries, dude, family > code ;) [12:38] andyrock, I have one meeting now but I'll merge this right after, thank you! [12:39] njpatel, thank you too :) goog meeting... see you [12:52] andyrock, merged, thank you :D [12:53] njpatel, thx you againg :) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:33] JohnLea, ping [13:35] andyrock, pong [13:36] JohnLea, about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/750311 [13:36] Ubuntu bug 750311 in unity "Launcher - When a item is deleted by dragging to Trash, the trash should pulse once before the Launcher disappears" [Low,In progress] [13:36] could you give me more information? [13:36] for example the color of the background... [13:37] andyrock; The pulse should be one cycle of the 'loading' pulse, same background colour, same in all respects other than it only pulses once [13:39] JohnLea, ok... it should pulse only if the dragged item belong to launcher? [13:40] andyrock; it should pulse in response to both normal files being moved into the trash, launcher items being removed, and usb key's ejected. Basically it should always pulse [13:41] JohnLea, ok ok... thx! [13:41] andyrock; no thank you ;-) [13:53] JohnLea, mmm... i cannot test dnd from destkop to launcher trash icon as it is break in trunk! [13:53] someone could confirm? ^^^ === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:22] DBO, is current ctrl+tab switcher supposed to move to alt+tab ? [14:22] om26er, when it is feature complete yes [14:23] DBO, thx, its looking good btw :) [15:03] someone could tell me how build unity-window-decorator from sources? [15:03] i get errors... [15:15] andyrock, if you could paste the build log somewhere like http://paste.ubuntu.com/, we might hazard a guess [15:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/652472/ [15:17] mgedmin, ??? [15:17] ^^^ [15:17] okay, I haven't seen that one [15:18] does it help if you try 'make' without -j2 ? [15:18] * mgedmin <- not a unity developer, just a bystander [15:18] i think not... -j2 is for using two core :) [15:20] yes, but some makefiles are buggy and do not support parallel builds [15:20] and since I didn't see any errors about missing include files, I've no other ideas why those types would be undefined [15:21] perhaps one of the knowledgeable people will wake up and be able to help you better [15:22] i've tried without -j2 but i get anyway the error [15:24] andyrock, you did sudo apt-get build-dep compiz? [15:25] andyrock: hi! Looking for me earlier, sorry I've been moving house for the past week, I am back now though [15:26] andyrock, jcastro is lying, he's a slacker! [15:26] njpatel: no more vacations for you, when you leave no one merges! [15:27] I had a vacation? I was unwell! [15:27] jcastro, it's weird, right? Like they forget *every* week [15:28] njpatel: right, holiday, sick, whatever. :) [15:28] j/k glad to have you back [15:28] njpatel: anything notable over the last 2 weeks? We're working on the report now [15:28] jcastro: I updated the desktop team meeting report in case it can help [15:29] jcastro, andyrock's device stuff is in, first cut of alt+tab (well, ctrl+tab right now), lots more fixes, [15:29] jcastro, the real fun starts from this and next week ;) [15:30] heh [15:31] http://pad.ubuntu.com/unity-report-26Jul [15:32] I just need to add the desktop team report bits [15:32] njpatel: check it out [15:34] jcastro, perfecto [15:35] njpatel, smspillaz is helping about unity window decorator [15:35] andyrock, sweet [15:58] DBO: does the download bar and emblem stuff all work on new alt-tab? [15:58] if you have a screenshot handy that would be awesome [16:06] jcastro, ping me [16:07] njpatel: ping [16:07] jcastro, at least the emblem works [16:08] jcastro, what uses the progress stuff? [16:08] i can make a screenshot, dbo is at the dentist [16:08] ubuntu one does [16:09] oh [16:09] and update-manager [16:09] okay, ping me again [16:09] njpatel: ping [16:10] jcastro, so no download yet, let me give you the shot, hold up [16:11] jcastro, http://goo.gl/AkGfF [16:13] what's up with that xchat icon? [16:14] Oh, I'm just arrived at home... Meeting in progress? :P [16:14] jcastro, needs a nicer one [16:14] jcastro, we're going to see a lot of that now with this new switcher...maybe it'll kick some people up the butt to make nice icons :) [16:15] Trevinho, ! [16:15] how are you dude? [16:15] Fine thanks njpatel [16:15] Trevinho, ted told me about the middle-click stuf on the indicator...very cool idea [16:16] (tying it to a menuitem) [16:16] ehehe [16:16] It was a very asked thing [16:16] yep [16:16] I've implemented it in all the framework... unity and unity-2d included :P [16:16] i saw...nice one! [16:16] Also if actually just the indicator-sound uses it [16:17] but appindicator supports it too right? [16:17] I'd like to use also for other stuffs, like the nautilus progress dialog, or other indicators [16:17] so it's available to everyone [16:17] njpatel: the app icons I'm not as worried about as I am of webapp icons, which look horrible even on the launcher, let alone alt-tab [16:17] to get faster user experience [16:17] yes njpatel [16:17] but an appindicator must associate a menuitem to that signal [16:17] yep [16:17] i really like that [16:17] so we're sure that an option is available also as menu-item [16:18] and not only as a secnodary-activate "plus" [16:18] right [16:19] Basically a gtk widget that can be activated, that is enabled, visible and clickable and that is a child of the main menu can be used [16:20] Unfortunately working on this stuff involves to work on many, many projects, but we must do that [16:21] jcastro: can you include the indicator secondary-activate support in report too? [16:21] :P [16:21] is that the middle click thing? [16:22] I've already submitted it, mind if I just put it in next week's? [16:22] Already submitted? Ah, I didn't read [16:22] Ah, jcastro this week I also resumed the support for scrolling over the indicators which was broken... [16:23] ok, from now on idle here and I'll ping you before hand. :) [16:23] I always miss something you're working on, heh [16:24] No problem... [16:24] Ah, and for unity-2d there's also a fix for supporting scrolling over the indicators (that has never worked before) [16:25] Trevinho: oh I know, when it comes up on OMG just leave a comment with all the goodies [16:26] njpatel: man dude, the overflow collapsing on the alt-tab is so nice [16:26] it's like a sideways launcher [16:26] Ah, ok... No problem... I just want you to know them, since you don't have to think I'm sleeping :D [16:27] Trevinho: it's ok, we all know you're working harder than tedg [16:28] lol... No, tedg is my mentor and improves all my things! :) [16:29] jcastro, exactly :) [16:30] njpatel: I've also started working on something about panelview and indicators [16:30] didrocks, njpatel after an update I was not able to start the system using unity, I'm not talking about the repositories, it also happens with the deb packages [16:30] is this normal, or something specific to my environment? [16:30] The entries need to move, and not to be shown "per indicator".... [16:31] API: how long ago was it? [16:31] API: there is a light-themes package which shoul workaround the issue [16:31] didrocks, you mean when I updated the packages? [16:31] yeah :) [16:31] So that unity-panel-serivice defines the order to show them, while the panel shows them correctly... [16:31] some hours ago [16:32] API: hum, unity didn't change from last Thursday and compiz for a week, you didn't update before? [16:32] API: I guess you are in the case of people who are still impacted even with the workaround [16:32] njpatel: ^^ [16:34] Trevinho, what?! :) [16:34] API, does unity print anything out? [16:35] didrocks, I have the more recent light-themes package [16:36] ok, so you are part of those where it doesn't workaround [16:36] API, do this: [16:36] API, killlall -9 unity-window-decorator; gtk-window-decorator --replace& [16:36] API, killall -9 compiz; compiz --replace&; [16:36] and see what happens [16:36] njpatel, [16:36] http://pastebin.com/85PeAzpm [16:36] output of unity > log.txt [16:36] http://pastebin.com/TEYxAgsf [16:36] output of unity --replace 2> log.txt [16:37] and now I will test your suggestion [16:37] njpatel, Using the name_hints to do ordering instead of the just library names. So that things like network manager can be in the proper location. [16:38] njpatel: As discussed at the UDS session about indicators, there's should be a way to show some "system" appindicators (i.e. nm-applet) in the correct order. As they are app-indicators, and so entries of the indicator appindicator they would be shown in order as the indicator orders them. But there's no way to put some of them between indicator-messages and indicator-datetime (for example). So I'm [16:38] doing this, as tedg told me that this is something that is just up to unity [16:38] tedg, Trevinho sounds like fun [16:39] tremolux, sweet [16:39] njpatel, about the first: [16:39] unity-window-decorator: no process found [16:39] njpatel: Basically I actually done something where the panel service tells to unity the order of each entry (if known) [16:39] so the panel should respect that given order too [16:39] API, no problem, just start gtk-window-decorator --replace& then [16:40] tremolux, hmm, the order is inferred by the order in which the data is sent [16:40] Trevinho, ^ [16:40] tremolux, sorry :) [16:41] Trevinho, the other issue is that panel expects all entries to stay inside their object [16:41] indicator-object* [16:41] Trevinho, its going to be a bit harder to make that work right :/ [16:41] I know [16:42] In fact I was thinking, at the beginning, of crating some "fake" indicator-objects [16:42] but tedg told me that we should just use the name... [16:42] Trevinho, that would work, you could keep a space for the nm menu [16:43] Trevinho, no, I mean create a "fake" object in the panel-service [16:43] Yes, but it would be a workaround however... And not only that menu has to be moved [16:43] Trevinho, yep [16:43] Mh, I'd redesign that completely... [16:43] hmm [16:43] Mh, I'll try to continue what I've in my mind [16:43] then if it works I'll show you my code... [16:44] coolio [16:45] alejandra: ping [16:47] or dbarth ping [16:48] nhandler: these are two good contacts for you re: your question ^^ [16:54] alejandra, dbarth: Since I'm going to be running out and I want to minimize the back-and-forth, I'm essentially trying to find a good channel to forward #ubuntu-app-devel too. I was originally thinking to forward it here, but joey didn't feel it would be a good fit. What do you guys think? [16:55] alejandra: hey you about ?? [16:56] czajkowski, hey laura! [16:57] alejandra: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/816041 not sure who to assign that to [16:57] Ubuntu bug 816041 in Ubuntu Website "Reason to become a partner is missing " [Undecided,New] [16:59] czajkowski, hey laura, should be in ubuntu-website-content [17:00] alejandra: for assigning ? [17:00] czajkowski, ellen arnold please [17:01] czajkowski, (new web project manager) [17:02] won't let me :/ [17:03] njpatel, well, I think that I have waited enough ;), sorry no luck, it gets also frozen, on the terminal the last step that I see is "Initializating session options: done" [17:04] API, hmm, that doesn't make sense :/ [17:04] didrocks, switching gtk-window-decorator didn't work either :/ [17:04] njpatel: hum, weird. API: does using another session, like ubuntu 2d works? [17:05] didrocks, well, I'm right now writing on the IRC, so yes [17:05] I didn't test ubuntu 2D [17:05] GNOME (so gnome-shell) and gnome classic (without effects) [17:05] worked [17:05] AFAIR, gnome classic [17:05] with effects also failed [17:05] I will test it [17:05] API: and starting unity from there? with gtk-w-d from the start? [17:06] didrocks, ok, I will try gnome classic without effects [17:06] (you can change that in ccsm to force this decorator) [17:06] execute gtk-window-decorator by hand [17:06] and then run unity --replace [17:06] yeah, that should work [17:06] ok, I will try [17:06] * API trying [17:08] didrocks, well, I have just run unity --replace [17:08] but it seems frozen again [17:08] API: did you run the gtk-w-d before? [17:09] that should work fine or it is normal waiting for some time [17:09] didrocks, yes I executed gtk-window-decorator before [17:09] that should work fine or it is normal waiting for some time ? [17:09] * API I forget that question mark [17:09] yeah, it should work [17:09] :/ [17:09] njpatel: seems there is another issue then ^^ [17:10] fwiw using top [17:10] compiz consumes 95-100% CPU [17:10] wtf [17:10] yeah, seems related to the latest compiz then [17:10] and btw, I also had some problems with gnome-settings-daemon [17:11] well, in order to add more info now, recently I moved to 64 bits [17:11] althouth some weeks ago when I bought [17:11] it [17:11] I was able to get unity running here [17:19] njpatel, didrocks gdb backtrace of the frozen compiz [17:19] http://pastebin.com/JeGVMkcF [17:30] jay! [17:30] jaytaoko, dude ^ [17:30] please help API with that [17:31] njpatel, well, the weird thing is that it is happening only to me, as far as I see [17:31] as I said this is using unity & nux from the repositories [17:31] ... [17:31] I will try then with the sources [17:34] API, maybe something is missing or it could just be a memory error, jaytaoko would know for sure [17:35] Hello [17:39] I'd like to make developers of unity with access to the code aware of a very easy to fix and confirmed memory leak bug - if this a good place to do so. I'm afraid otherwise this fix won't be included in the 11.10 release, seeing that it such a trivial fix. [17:42] njpatel, ok, anyway I will need to go home soon [17:42] should I send a mail to jay, or just create a bug? [17:46] API, create a bug and assign to jay :) [17:48] njpatel, ok [17:48] and thanks === mterry_ is now known as mterry [17:52] Any unity coders in here? I've got a one liner fix for a confirmed memory leak bug in unity. [17:53] Casper8, do you have a merging proposal? [17:53] yes, thanks for your time, here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/812975 [17:53] Ubuntu bug 812975 in unity (Ubuntu) "found memory leak in code" [Undecided,Confirmed] [17:55] Casper8, this a bug report... you should open a branch [17:56] oh im sorry, im only responding to a suggestion in the report which pointed me to IRC [17:57] not sure what to do then, thanks anyway :) [17:58] Casper8, maybe you could ping a unity developer (i'm just a unity community contributor) [17:58] and suggets him your patch... [17:59] but using bzr is better according to me :) [17:59] andyrock, how do I ping a unity developer? no idea really [17:59] ping + name of the developer :) [17:59] but i can help you with bzr [17:59] andyrock, I don't want to 'annoy' the developer or be spammy, so if it's not a good idea to this, I'm ok with it being simply in launchpad [18:00] Casper8, indeed [18:00] if you want i can help you in putting your patch in launchpad ;) [18:01] andyrock, thanks I'll do that [18:01] Casper8, ping me when you need support [18:01] oh sorry, I misread - can you make a patch for me? I mean it's just one line [18:02] ok ill make a patch later this week and I can ping you? [18:04] i can make a patch for you if you want but it is not correct and fair :) [18:05] it is better if you make the patch and put it on launchpad [18:05] :) [18:07] njpatel: hello [18:08] andyrock, ok I'll make a patch later this week [18:08] Casper8, ok ok [18:09] API: hi! [18:13] jaytaoko, hi [18:14] im planning to create a bug with all the info [18:14] just in case [18:14] before of that I will compile again from the sources [18:15] API: What is the problem that you are having? is this a crash? [18:15] jaytaoko, [18:15] no [18:15] compiz get frozen [18:15] I already waited for some minutes [18:15] I included a backtrace [18:15] but it was a backtrace of the compiz running [18:37] hey [18:42] jaytaoko, I have just created the bug [18:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/nux/+bug/816589 [18:42] Ubuntu bug 816589 in Nux "Unity gets frozen on startup" [Undecided,New] [18:42] sorry, I need to go home [18:42] thanks, and by [18:42] e [18:42] API: thanks! [18:43] jaytaoko, you are welcome === daker is now known as daker_ [19:39] jaytaoko: did you see my PM :P [19:58] I'm just wondering, is there anybody portuguese on this channel? === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === yofel_ is now known as yofel