ScottKgtk3 will be off the CD tomorrow.01:33
negaduckScottK: hmm?01:50
ScottKDoesn't serve much point on a Kubuntu CD and  we need the space.01:50
negaduckWhy was it there?01:56
ScottKWe seed appmenu-gtk3 so that any GTK3 apps someone installs just work with the plasma-widget-menubar.  Since it does nothing if no GTK3 apps are installed, I got the Ubuntu Desktop people to remove the depends.02:42
ScottKapachelogger: We need to have someone package https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/artwork/oxygen-gtk so GTK3 stuff can look good in Kubuntu.02:44
apacheloggerQuintasan_: pong06:26
apacheloggerScottK: wondering who though ^^06:26
skfinWoah. I actually said something at this channel09:14
yofelheh, good morning skfin ^^09:16
* jussi waves to skfin09:21
* skfin spots jussi and says good morning to him09:22
yofelbtw. can someone with 4.7.0 run 'kcmshell4 kcm_synaptiks' please? crashes here09:24
agateauyofel: crashes here as well (kdelibs 4.6.90, synaptik 0.7.0)09:27
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Quintasanapachelogger: ping09:40
ScottKapachelogger: bambee.09:52
ScottKFancy packaging https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/artwork/oxygen-gtk09:54
* ScottK must go.09:54
* yofel got poked about lp bug 577560 and kde bug 27839909:57
yofelI'll try to get an SRU for the first one done, but latter isn't really SRU material...09:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 577560 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "can't connect to WPA2 Entreprise using PEAP and MSCHAPv2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57756009:57
ubottuKDE bug 278399 in general "Make configshell deactivatable" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27839909:57
jussiWhat sort of state is oneiric in currently? is it half runnable or completely borked? :D10:00
yofeljussi: half runnable (as long as you don't want to configure your touchpad)10:01
jussiok :D10:01
* yofel is on oneiric right now10:01
schmidtmhey guys i just wanted to inform youi about lp bug 81599210:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 815992 in koffice (Ubuntu) "krita uses 100% cpu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81599210:02
yofeldoesn't use 100% CPU here, but doesn't start either10:04
yofelkrita(18563)/koffice (lib komain): "krita" part.desktop not found.10:04
schmidtmyofel: what about the solution that worked for the fedora guys?10:06
yofelmaybe, but I first need to find out what they did to openCTL10:08
* yofel doesn't get how to get a diff out of the fedore build system o.O10:09
schmidtmwhat i see so far is https://bitbucket.org/opengtl/opengtl/changeset/c6f1381966ff10:10
yofelreached that too, let's see if I can get krita to actually try to start first10:12
yofelok, *hangs*10:13
schmidtmsame here on different machines10:14
Quintasanapachelogger: According to ScottK, getting kwin-gles is double building kde-workspace, did you have anything else in mind?10:16
yofelwhy double-building?10:25
apacheloggerQuintasan: nope10:26
apacheloggeryofel: cause it currently only is a buildtime option10:26
apacheloggerQuintasan: though you perhaps could just double build kwin10:26
yofeldo we want it on anything else than armel?10:27
apacheloggermartin explicitly asked for it10:27
yofeldouble building it is then10:27
yofeltell me when you've got it figured out, we'll need it in neon too10:28
yofelor rather Quintasan should just do it there too10:28
yofelschmidtm: krita fixed, thanks for debugging this!10:30
yofelI'll get the patch into the archive10:30
yofelshadeslayer: as emacs user, can you confirm bug 784379 in natty?11:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 784379 in gtk2-engines-oxygen (Ubuntu) "Oxygen-gtk style fails to load with Emacs" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78437911:31
* apachelogger blinks11:35
jussiHello peoples!11:52
jussiIve been following up on the "not much kubuntu stuff in the canonical store"11:52
jussiWho is our resident designer? 11:52
yofelI believe sheytan is the only one doing design work right now11:52
jussiWe need to provide designs of what we want in the store11:53
yofelalthough DarkwingDuck tried to do some logos I believe11:53
jussiThey say they arent going to order _lots_ because last time the stuff sat around for 3 years, which potentially will make the stuff cost a trifle more than the ubuntu stuff11:54
jussiWe need to come up with a few items that we particularly want, and provide some designs that comply with ubuntu design guidelines11:55
Quintasanapachelogger: Well, double building it seems easy but I wonder if what I did will be enough12:11
Quintasanapachelogger: What needs to be added to build-deps to get GLES built?12:12
apacheloggerlibgles2-mesa-dev and libegl1-mesa-dev I guess12:12
apacheloggerjust try it :P12:13
* Quintasan tries12:14
QuintasanShould be done today unless I run into some dark magic I do not understand12:14
Quintasanapachelogger: Am I wrong to think that iMX board is kind of useless for our purpose now?12:15
apacheloggerdid you contact someone from freescale for drivers yet?12:16
QuintasanI did not, I thought you did that12:16
* apachelogger is doing pornon12:16
* Quintasan wants to have nothing with Freescale support12:16
Quintasanjussi: ping12:17
Quintasanjussi: If you are not busy, could you mail Freescale and ask them if they have any plans to release drivers that would work with new Ubuntu etc.?12:18
jussiQuintasan: perhaps.12:18
Quintasanjussi: I think it would be good to point them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/iMX53QuickStartBoard so you don't have to go on about what the hell is wrong12:19
jussiQuintasan: freescale peoples are on holidays currently12:19
Quintasanjussi: Emails will reach them anyways so they can PROBABLY take action when they are back12:20
jussinext month they are back12:20
* Quintasan curses12:20
jussiQuintasan: its like 5 days away12:20
Quintasanapachelogger: -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON <-- is that flag good?13:00
yofelapachelogger, Quintasan, debfx: comments? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PhilipMuskovac/KubuntuDevApplication13:02
shadeslayeryofel: "missing Ubuntu ONE client (couldn't resist :P)"13:07
Quintasanyofel: looks fine to me13:07
* yofel tries to figure out doodle13:08
shadeslayeryofel: looks fine to me too13:08
Quintasanshadeslayer: You can't give him endorsement yet :P13:09
yofelI guess I'll limit it till a week from now, after that is DS13:09
Quintasanapachelogger: I might have some info regarding EGL magic on iMX today13:10
shadeslayerQuintasan: yeah i know, just saying it looks good13:11
QuintasanY U RUN -j1 PBUILDER?13:12
shadeslayeriirc you can overload that13:12
QuintasanHow exactly?13:12
Quintasanexport MAKEFLAGS="-j11" in pbuilderrc doesnt help13:13
shadeslayeroh ..13:15
apacheloggersilly persons do you need the documentation I write13:17
yofelmail sent13:17
* yofel gets a feeling of doom...13:17
Quintasanapachelogger: What?13:19
apacheloggerpbuilder-hooks readme for example13:19
yofelQuintasan: shadeslayer cannot, but you could ;)13:19
apachelogger>>> grep "\-j" src/bzr/pbuilder-hooks/README13:19
apachelogger      DEBBUILDOPTS="-j5"13:19
shadeslayerwheee .... libindi upstream says they'll fix stuff in a couple of days \o/13:20
apacheloggeron a related note I guess I could also remind you that I wrote some cool mail about speeding up builds like a year ago13:21
shadeslayerdid i mention that synaptiks is broken?13:21
QuintasanOH U PBUILDER DIST13:23
yofeloh, and you'll need oneiric with ninjas enabled to have working ccache and icecc in pbuilder13:24
Quintasan!@#$%^ wrapper13:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wrapper13:24
Quintasanoh pbuilder-dist u are so dead13:27
Tm_Tmuhah, installed libraptor2 from natty to maverick system13:28
Quintasanyofel: Check the Doodle13:37
Quintasanapachelogger: omg, I think I found the lamest pun even13:38
Quintasan"Man makes a mistake in elevator. Wrong on many levels"13:39
yofelhm, I made a mistake when setting up the poll :S13:40
yofelthat should be 12AM, not PM -.-13:40
shadeslayeryofel: that emacs bug is a works for me on oneiric btw13:40
yofelshadeslayer: oneiric has newer oxygen-gtk, so that would only be broken in natty13:41
yofelah right, you're on O now13:41
shadeslayeryeah, lemme fire me old machine and check13:41
yofelwell, 12PM would work with me too, just not tomorrow13:41
shadeslayerstupid radeon driver13:43
shadeslayercan't even change my screen brightness13:43
* Quintasan kills pbuilder-dist with fire13:44
* shadeslayer kills ATi with fire13:44
yofelQuintasan: want my pbuilderrc? uses env vars13:44
Quintasanyofel: The one from ubuntu wiki? I got that know13:44
yofelQuintasan: not quite the one from the wiki http://paste.kde.org/10164713:45
shadeslayeryofel: it is the broken on natty13:46
QuintasanI ain't usin icecc yofel :<13:46
shadeslayer^^ i have to setup icecc13:46
yofelthen just comment that out ^^13:46
* Quintasan has no other amd64 box13:46
apacheloggeryofel: I think you can fix0r a doodle13:48
apacheloggerQuintasan: I think your pun is horrible13:48
apacheloggershadeslayer: I think you should do some work13:48
apacheloggereveryone: I think I am not running 4.7 yet, can we plz fix that?13:48
Quintasanapachelogger: lol, I found it on internets, just sayin13:49
Quintasanyofel: PBUILDERSATISFYDEPENDSCMD="/usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi"13:49
yofelapachelogger: true, thanks for reminding me13:49
QuintasanIS SUPERIOR13:49
yofelwhy are you using that junk...13:49
Quintasanjunk? it's faster13:50
yofel*shrug*, aptitude works at least13:50
yofelQuintasan: look at the poll again13:51
apacheloggerQuintasan: thy shalt not use experimental stuff13:53
apacheloggerit can essentially render the testbuild useless13:54
apacheloggerby wrongly resolving the dep or resolving one that should not be resolved13:54
Quintasanapachelogger: that DEBBUILTOPTS doesnt work13:59
Quintasanmake[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1.  Add `+' to parent make rule.13:59
apacheloggeryou are doing both14:01
apacheloggerwhat the fish?!?!!?14:01
QuintasanWhat now?14:01
apacheloggerof course that aint working if you export two shites14:01
* Quintasan comments our export bleh bleh and checks14:02
yofelas a matter of fact..14:02
Quintasanit used to work14:02
yofel  9 DEBBUILDOPTS="-j12"14:02
yofel  8 export MAKEFLAGS="-j12"14:02
yofelworks fine here14:02
Quintasanapachelogger: ^14:03
Quintasanmake[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1.  Add `+' to parent make rule.14:04
QuintasanSUP apachelogger14:04
apacheloggeryou are doing it wrong(tm)14:04
apacheloggeryofel: why would you export both anyway?14:04
yofelnot sure, had a reason for it once and I don't fix things that aren't broken14:05
Quintasanno idea but according to apachelogger I am doing it wrong and it doesnt work with both lines or one of them commented out14:07
yofelwhat I would be more curious about would be why the jobserver is unavailable in the first place14:08
yofeltry with another package?14:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: ja ja, i'm working on fixing that as well14:11
Quintasanyofel: I ain't getting missing jobserver error in maliit but it still uses j114:15
shadeslayerwhats up that needs a test build?14:17
shadeslayerjust need to figure out how to setup icecc14:18
yofelyou could try to figure out soprano for natty ;P14:18
shadeslayersure :)14:19
bambeeyofel: -j12 ?14:25
yofelbambee: icecc, the scheduler takes care of limiting the jobs on the machines14:26
bambeeoh icecc14:27
shadeslayerweird, no machines on my network14:36
shadeslayer\o/ http://wstaw.org/m/2011/07/26/plasma-desktopXV1457.jpg14:40
shadeslayerlets try compiling kdelibs :P14:43
Quintasanapachelogger: -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON but I see not GLES when doing make :<14:51
shadeslayeryofel: huh, i have no incoming jobs14:53
apacheloggerunless my insanely old master is different14:53
yofelshadeslayer: are you on oneiric with fixed pbuilder and fixed icecc?14:54
Quintasan[~]% cat Sauce/pbuilder/ninjas-amd64/result/kde-workspace_4.7.0-0ubuntu2_amd64.build | grep KWIN_HAVE_OPENGLES_COMPOSITING14:54
yofelnote: you'll need fixed icecc INSIDE pbuilder14:54
shadeslayeryofel: i'm just trying to do a normal compile of kdelibs14:54
Quintasanapachelogger: cmake ../.. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debian -DCMAKE_USE_RELATIVE_PATHS=ON -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON <= that's the cmake that gets called14:54
shadeslayerusing make CC=icecc -j2014:54
yofelshadeslayer: right, and archive pbuilder has a bug re passing of env vars, so icecc isn't in the PATH - check what compiler is found by cmake14:55
yofelCheck for working C compiler: /usr/lib/ccache/gcc14:55
yofelis what I get14:55
yofeland I have 'export CCACHE_PATH=/usr/lib/icecc/bin' in my pbuilderrc which makes ccache run icecc14:56
QuintasanDirty hacks everywhere14:57
yofelpbuilder is a dirty hack by design ^^14:57
shadeslayerexport CCACHE_PATH=/usr/lib/icecc/bin'14:57
shadeslayerCheck for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc14:58
yofelshadeslayer: take pbuilder from ninjas14:58
shadeslayerits not a pbuilder14:59
shadeslayeri'm compiling a regular build via git14:59
yofelah, local build?14:59
yofelis icecc in your PATH?14:59
yofeljust export PATH="/usr/lib/icecc/bin:$PATH"14:59
shadeslayerisn't it /usr/bin/icecc ?15:02
shadeslayerand btw it is15:02
yofelread man icecc, you don't invoke icecc directly15:02
shadeslayerwill set it up laterz15:07
shadeslayerhave to work right now15:08
* yofel needs to go too, bbl15:10
DarkwingDuckjussi: We need to come up with some logos for things in teh store?15:23
shadeslayerbtw does anyone have a ATi card and when you install the fglrx driver you get a "AMD Unsupported Hardware" watermark at the bottom left?16:01
shadeslayeryofel: you meant soprano on natty right?16:12
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yofelshadeslayer: yes17:06
shadeslayeryofel: i compiled raptor2 from oneirc on natty, builds just fine, want me to upload that to ninjas?17:07
shadeslayernetworking manager in neon is broken btw17:14
yofelI mentioned that in my blog post17:14
shadeslayerah ok17:14
yofelupload a nm09 snapshot if you need it17:14
shadeslayerno use, i don't have a wireless driver so won't make much of a difference17:15
jussiDarkwingDuck: yeah, we need to come up with designs of what things should look like.17:48
QuintasanDarkwingDuck: Can you review my merge request on kubuntu-docs? It just fixed a typo :)17:51
shadeslayeryou need newer librasqal2 for raptor as well18:07
kubotushadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"18:07
_Groo_hi/2 all18:09
shadeslayerlol, now you also need libgmp-dev for librasqal318:10
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DarkwingDuckQuintasan: Yes, I can do that.18:50
DarkwingDuckI'm getting new internet today with another company... (cheaper) so, I'll approve it tonight.18:51
DarkwingDuckQuintasan: When did you submit it?18:52
dtchenoff-topic, but -I've noticed that KDE in Oneiric just tends to stay out of my way and lets me fix bugs. That rocks.20:12
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 221 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream tar20:31
afiestasremember to update BlueDevil's package to 1.1.120:38
yofeldoes that fix my n900 not paring properly but asking me for a key every time I connect in oneiric?20:40
yofelesp. annoying if I use DUN20:41
Quintasanyofel: Are you going to upgrade BlueDevil or want me to do so?20:44
yofelI'll do it - didn't you work on maliit?20:45
afiestasyofel: I don't know, myt N900 is pairing perfect so maybe we can do some tests with yours and see what's happening20:45
afiestashave you open a bug for that?20:45
yofelnot yet, only noticed it recently, and don't know where to look20:45
Quintasanyofel: I'm trying, what I got so far is installable package but it doesnt do tests20:45
QuintasanHence it's no suitable for main20:45
afiestasyofel: kdebugdialog, enable all the output20:45
afiestasexecute bluedevil-wizard into a shell, try to pair the N900 and give me the output20:46
yofelgive me a few mins20:46
afiestasalso, be sore to remove the device from the list of "configured devices" if it is there20:46
Quintasanyofel: There is something wrong in LD_LIBRARY_PATH and the test won't run but I have no idea how to fix it in the first place20:46
Quintasanmgraesslin_: ping20:48
Quintasanmgraesslin: For what buildflag should I look to find out whether KWin was built with GLES?20:51
Quintasanparsing buildlog for GLES yields: -lGLESv220:51
mgraesslinQuintasan: look for message "Compiling KWin for mobile."20:52
QuintasanOh yeah!20:53
QuintasanNow just to install it :)20:53
Quintasanmgraesslin: kwin-gles should land in oneiric soon20:54
mgraesslinand hopefully we won't need it in oneiric+1 any more :-)20:55
yofelas always, when you want to debug something it works perfectly fine *-.-20:55
yofelafiestas: I'll poke you if I can reproduce it again20:56
Quintasanmgraesslin: Fortunately enough it's an easy to revert change20:56
mgraesslinjust out of interest: are you able to compile everything in one go or do you process kde-workspace twice?20:57
Quintasanmgraesslin: it goes through build process twice20:59
Quintasanmgraesslin: I start the build process, make a tea and it's done here :)21:00
Quintasanapachelogger or ScottK: Should I rename the gles kwin binary?21:00
apacheloggerQuintasan_: nah, why?21:06
apacheloggerreplace/conflicts stuff 21:06
mgraesslinand it's not only the binary - also the effects and effectslib needs to conflict21:13
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Quintasan_apachelogger: Stuff that mgraesslin mentioned is in the same package, right?21:20
apacheloggeryou'll likely need to restructure some packages for that21:20
apacheloggeras we probably do have kwin stuff in shared packages21:20
apacheloggerlike the desktop files21:20
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QuintasanLet's make sure it builds and installs as expected21:21
yofelbluedevil in ninjas21:22
Quintasanapachelogger: Wouldn't just making kde-window-manager-gles conflics/replace kde-window-manager cut it?21:22
apacheloggernot if there is libraries and stuff in other packages21:22
apacheloggeryou'll need to check21:22
apacheloggerif all is in kde-window-manager then we are good21:23
apacheloggerbut I find this unlikely21:23
Quintasanapachelogger: I copypaste'd kde-window-manager.install into kde-window-manager-gles.install, added debian/tmp-kwin-gles prefix and it installs everything21:23
Quintasanyofel: Any idea if the missing copyrights stuff is fixed or I need to check the tarballs?21:41
QuintasanI'm talking about 4.7,021:42
yofelapachelogger: procedure question: how many people need to mark their times on the doodle poll for it to take effect? (I'm currently thinking of >= 5 people)21:42
yofelQuintasan: should be fine right now, and it's not like we can fix anything there upstream due to the release freeze21:42
Quintasanyofel: I think you need KC quorum21:43
QuintasanOr the voting will be moved to ML21:43
yofelthat's... 6? As this is a dev not council meeting21:43
yofelI know I need at least 3 +1 votes21:44
yofelno hurry anyway, seem like monday - wednesday next week are the best times for jr21:44
QuintasanNo idea if it counts but you get +1 from me21:45
* yofel hugs Quintasan21:45
Quintasanksaneplugin in ppa and bzr21:45
yofelalthough, if we do this on friday I could help with uploading 4.7 :P21:46
* Quintasan runs his oneiric VM21:47
Quintasanserver install <321:48
bambeeyofel kubuntu dev <321:51
bambeegood night all21:53
yofelScottK: managed to reproduce the s-c-p error?22:16
QuintasanUpgrade to 4.7.0 successful22:23
QuintasanStuff works but jockey crashes here22:23
yofelcan you open the touchpad settings?22:24
yofelI don't quite get what goes wrong there22:24
QuintasanLet me try, I just closed the VMs22:25
Quintasanyofel, I can open it, but no touchpad is found22:26
QuintasanSince I'm on a pc22:27
yofelgreat, then I guess you need a touchpad to crash it http://paste.kde.org/10193522:27
yofel~KAboutData crashing is odd though...22:28
Quintasanwell, I am going to bed, see you tomorrow22:28
* yofel can't reproduce that printer crash either and shuts the natty vm down again22:28

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