[01:33] <ScottK> gtk3 will be off the CD tomorrow.
[01:50] <negaduck> ScottK: hmm?
[01:50] <ScottK> Doesn't serve much point on a Kubuntu CD and  we need the space.
[01:56] <negaduck> Why was it there?
[02:42] <ScottK> We seed appmenu-gtk3 so that any GTK3 apps someone installs just work with the plasma-widget-menubar.  Since it does nothing if no GTK3 apps are installed, I got the Ubuntu Desktop people to remove the depends.
[02:44] <ScottK> apachelogger: We need to have someone package https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/artwork/oxygen-gtk so GTK3 stuff can look good in Kubuntu.
[06:26] <apachelogger> Quintasan_: pong
[06:26] <apachelogger> ScottK: wondering who though ^^
[07:37] <bambee> morning
[08:55] <yofel> morning
[09:14] <skfin> Morning.
[09:14] <skfin> Woah. I actually said something at this channel
[09:16] <yofel> heh, good morning skfin ^^
[09:21] <skfin> :)
[09:21]  * jussi waves to skfin
[09:22]  * skfin spots jussi and says good morning to him
[09:24] <yofel> btw. can someone with 4.7.0 run 'kcmshell4 kcm_synaptiks' please? crashes here
[09:24] <yofel> http://paste.kde.org/101533
[09:27] <agateau> yofel: crashes here as well (kdelibs 4.6.90, synaptik 0.7.0)
[09:27] <yofel> :S
[09:40] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping
[09:41] <apachelogger> pogo
[09:52] <ScottK> apachelogger: bambee.
[09:53] <bambee> yes?
[09:54] <ScottK> Fancy packaging https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/artwork/oxygen-gtk
[09:54]  * ScottK must go.
[09:57]  * yofel got poked about lp bug 577560 and kde bug 278399
[09:57] <yofel> I'll try to get an SRU for the first one done, but latter isn't really SRU material...
[10:00] <jussi> What sort of state is oneiric in currently? is it half runnable or completely borked? :D
[10:01] <yofel> jussi: half runnable (as long as you don't want to configure your touchpad)
[10:01] <jussi> ok :D
[10:01]  * yofel is on oneiric right now
[10:02] <schmidtm> hey guys i just wanted to inform youi about lp bug 815992
[10:04] <yofel> doesn't use 100% CPU here, but doesn't start either
[10:04] <yofel> krita(18563)/koffice (lib komain): "krita" part.desktop not found.
[10:06] <schmidtm> yofel: what about the solution that worked for the fedora guys?
[10:08] <yofel> maybe, but I first need to find out what they did to openCTL
[10:09]  * yofel doesn't get how to get a diff out of the fedore build system o.O
[10:09] <yofel> *fedora
[10:10] <schmidtm> what i see so far is https://bitbucket.org/opengtl/opengtl/changeset/c6f1381966ff
[10:12] <yofel> reached that too, let's see if I can get krita to actually try to start first
[10:13] <yofel> ok, *hangs*
[10:14] <schmidtm> same here on different machines
[10:16] <Quintasan> apachelogger: According to ScottK, getting kwin-gles is double building kde-workspace, did you have anything else in mind?
[10:25] <yofel> why double-building?
[10:26] <apachelogger> Quintasan: nope
[10:26] <apachelogger> yofel: cause it currently only is a buildtime option
[10:26] <apachelogger> Quintasan: though you perhaps could just double build kwin
[10:27] <yofel> do we want it on anything else than armel?
[10:27] <apachelogger> yes
[10:27] <yofel> ok
[10:27] <apachelogger> martin explicitly asked for it
[10:27] <yofel> double building it is then
[10:28] <yofel> tell me when you've got it figured out, we'll need it in neon too
[10:28] <yofel> or rather Quintasan should just do it there too
[10:30] <yofel> schmidtm: krita fixed, thanks for debugging this!
[10:30] <yofel> I'll get the patch into the archive
[11:31] <yofel> shadeslayer: as emacs user, can you confirm bug 784379 in natty?
[11:35]  * apachelogger blinks
[11:52] <jussi> Hello peoples!
[11:52] <jussi> Ive been following up on the "not much kubuntu stuff in the canonical store"
[11:52] <jussi> Who is our resident designer? 
[11:52] <yofel> I believe sheytan is the only one doing design work right now
[11:53] <jussi> We need to provide designs of what we want in the store
[11:53] <yofel> although DarkwingDuck tried to do some logos I believe
[11:54] <jussi> They say they arent going to order _lots_ because last time the stuff sat around for 3 years, which potentially will make the stuff cost a trifle more than the ubuntu stuff
[11:55] <jussi> We need to come up with a few items that we particularly want, and provide some designs that comply with ubuntu design guidelines
[12:11] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Well, double building it seems easy but I wonder if what I did will be enough
[12:12] <Quintasan> apachelogger: What needs to be added to build-deps to get GLES built?
[12:12] <apachelogger> libgles2-mesa-dev and libegl1-mesa-dev I guess
[12:13] <apachelogger> just try it :P
[12:14]  * Quintasan tries
[12:14] <Quintasan> Should be done today unless I run into some dark magic I do not understand
[12:15] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Am I wrong to think that iMX board is kind of useless for our purpose now?
[12:15] <apachelogger> well
[12:16] <apachelogger> did you contact someone from freescale for drivers yet?
[12:16] <Quintasan> I did not, I thought you did that
[12:16] <apachelogger> nope
[12:16]  * apachelogger is doing pornon
[12:16]  * Quintasan wants to have nothing with Freescale support
[12:17] <Quintasan> jussi: ping
[12:17] <jussi> whaaaaaaaatttttt?
[12:18] <Quintasan> jussi: If you are not busy, could you mail Freescale and ask them if they have any plans to release drivers that would work with new Ubuntu etc.?
[12:18] <jussi> Quintasan: perhaps.
[12:19] <Quintasan> jussi: I think it would be good to point them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/iMX53QuickStartBoard so you don't have to go on about what the hell is wrong
[12:19] <jussi> Quintasan: freescale peoples are on holidays currently
[12:20] <Quintasan> jussi: Emails will reach them anyways so they can PROBABLY take action when they are back
[12:20] <jussi> next month they are back
[12:20] <Quintasan> MONTH?!
[12:20]  * Quintasan curses
[12:20] <jussi> Quintasan: its like 5 days away
[12:20] <Quintasan> oh
[13:00] <Quintasan> apachelogger: -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON <-- is that flag good?
[13:02] <apachelogger> yus
[13:02] <yofel> apachelogger, Quintasan, debfx: comments? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PhilipMuskovac/KubuntuDevApplication
[13:07] <shadeslayer> hahahaha
[13:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: "missing Ubuntu ONE client (couldn't resist :P)"
[13:07] <Quintasan> yofel: looks fine to me
[13:08]  * yofel tries to figure out doodle
[13:08] <shadeslayer> yofel: looks fine to me too
[13:09] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: You can't give him endorsement yet :P
[13:09] <yofel> I guess I'll limit it till a week from now, after that is DS
[13:10] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I might have some info regarding EGL magic on iMX today
[13:11] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yeah i know, just saying it looks good
[13:12] <Quintasan> Y U RUN -j1 PBUILDER?
[13:12] <shadeslayer> wot
[13:12] <shadeslayer> iirc you can overload that
[13:12] <Quintasan> How exactly?
[13:13] <Quintasan> export MAKEFLAGS="-j11" in pbuilderrc doesnt help
[13:15] <shadeslayer> oh ..
[13:17] <apachelogger> silly persons do you need the documentation I write
[13:17] <yofel> mail sent
[13:17]  * yofel gets a feeling of doom...
[13:19] <Quintasan> apachelogger: What?
[13:19] <apachelogger> pbuilder-hooks readme for example
[13:19] <yofel> Quintasan: shadeslayer cannot, but you could ;)
[13:19] <apachelogger> >>> grep "\-j" src/bzr/pbuilder-hooks/README
[13:19] <apachelogger>       DEBBUILDOPTS="-j5"
[13:20] <shadeslayer> wheee .... libindi upstream says they'll fix stuff in a couple of days \o/
[13:21] <apachelogger> on a related note I guess I could also remind you that I wrote some cool mail about speeding up builds like a year ago
[13:21] <shadeslayer> did i mention that synaptiks is broken?
[13:21] <apachelogger> http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-devel/2010-07/msg00069.html
[13:23] <Quintasan> OH U PBUILDER DIST
[13:24] <yofel> oh, and you'll need oneiric with ninjas enabled to have working ccache and icecc in pbuilder
[13:24] <Quintasan> !@#$%^ wrapper
[13:27] <Quintasan> oh pbuilder-dist u are so dead
[13:28] <Tm_T> muhah, installed libraptor2 from natty to maverick system
[13:37] <Quintasan> yofel: Check the Doodle
[13:37] <Quintasan> :D
[13:38] <Quintasan> holidays++
[13:38] <Quintasan> apachelogger: omg, I think I found the lamest pun even
[13:39] <yofel> lol
[13:39] <Quintasan> "Man makes a mistake in elevator. Wrong on many levels"
[13:39] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:40] <yofel> hm, I made a mistake when setting up the poll :S
[13:40] <yofel> that should be 12AM, not PM -.-
[13:40] <shadeslayer> yofel: that emacs bug is a works for me on oneiric btw
[13:41] <yofel> shadeslayer: oneiric has newer oxygen-gtk, so that would only be broken in natty
[13:41] <yofel> ah right, you're on O now
[13:41] <shadeslayer> yeah, lemme fire me old machine and check
[13:41] <yofel> well, 12PM would work with me too, just not tomorrow
[13:43] <shadeslayer> stupid radeon driver
[13:43] <shadeslayer> can't even change my screen brightness
[13:44]  * Quintasan kills pbuilder-dist with fire
[13:44]  * shadeslayer kills ATi with fire
[13:44] <yofel> Quintasan: want my pbuilderrc? uses env vars
[13:44] <Quintasan> yofel: The one from ubuntu wiki? I got that know
[13:45] <yofel> Quintasan: not quite the one from the wiki http://paste.kde.org/101647
[13:46] <shadeslayer> yofel: it is the broken on natty
[13:46] <Quintasan> I ain't usin icecc yofel :<
[13:46] <shadeslayer> ^^ i have to setup icecc
[13:46] <yofel> then just comment that out ^^
[13:46]  * Quintasan has no other amd64 box
[13:48] <apachelogger> yofel: I think you can fix0r a doodle
[13:48] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I think your pun is horrible
[13:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I think you should do some work
[13:48] <apachelogger> everyone: I think I am not running 4.7 yet, can we plz fix that?
[13:49] <Quintasan> apachelogger: lol, I found it on internets, just sayin
[13:49] <Quintasan> yofel: PBUILDERSATISFYDEPENDSCMD="/usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi"
[13:49] <Quintasan> DIS
[13:49] <yofel> apachelogger: true, thanks for reminding me
[13:49] <Quintasan> IS SUPERIOR
[13:49] <yofel> why are you using that junk...
[13:50] <Quintasan> junk? it's faster
[13:50] <Quintasan> ...
[13:50] <yofel> *shrug*, aptitude works at least
[13:51] <yofel> Quintasan: look at the poll again
[13:53] <apachelogger> Quintasan: thy shalt not use experimental stuff
[13:54] <apachelogger> it can essentially render the testbuild useless
[13:54] <apachelogger> by wrongly resolving the dep or resolving one that should not be resolved
[13:54] <apachelogger> etc.
[13:59] <Quintasan> ...
[13:59] <Quintasan> apachelogger: that DEBBUILTOPTS doesnt work
[13:59] <Quintasan> make[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1.  Add `+' to parent make rule.
[14:00] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/101653
[14:00] <apachelogger> right
[14:01] <apachelogger> you are doing both
[14:01] <apachelogger> WTF
[14:01] <apachelogger> like
[14:01] <apachelogger> dude
[14:01] <apachelogger> what the fish?!?!!?
[14:01] <Quintasan> What now?
[14:01] <yofel> o.O
[14:01] <apachelogger> of course that aint working if you export two shites
[14:02]  * Quintasan comments our export bleh bleh and checks
[14:02] <yofel> as a matter of fact..
[14:02] <Quintasan> it used to work
[14:02] <yofel>   9 DEBBUILDOPTS="-j12"
[14:02] <yofel>   8 export MAKEFLAGS="-j12"
[14:02] <yofel> works fine here
[14:03] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^
[14:03] <Quintasan> :/
[14:04] <Quintasan> make[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1.  Add `+' to parent make rule.
[14:04] <Quintasan> SUP apachelogger
[14:04] <apachelogger> you are doing it wrong(tm)
[14:04] <apachelogger> yofel: why would you export both anyway?
[14:05] <yofel> not sure, had a reason for it once and I don't fix things that aren't broken
[14:07] <Quintasan> no idea but according to apachelogger I am doing it wrong and it doesnt work with both lines or one of them commented out
[14:08] <yofel> what I would be more curious about would be why the jobserver is unavailable in the first place
[14:08] <yofel> try with another package?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ja ja, i'm working on fixing that as well
[14:15] <Quintasan> yofel: I ain't getting missing jobserver error in maliit but it still uses j1
[14:15] <yofel> :/
[14:17] <shadeslayer> whats up that needs a test build?
[14:18] <shadeslayer> just need to figure out how to setup icecc
[14:18] <yofel> you could try to figure out soprano for natty ;P
[14:19] <shadeslayer> sure :)
[14:25] <bambee> yofel: -j12 ?
[14:25] <bambee> wow
[14:26] <yofel> bambee: icecc, the scheduler takes care of limiting the jobs on the machines
[14:27] <bambee> oh icecc
[14:36] <shadeslayer> weird, no machines on my network
[14:40] <shadeslayer> \o/ http://wstaw.org/m/2011/07/26/plasma-desktopXV1457.jpg
[14:41] <yofel> :D
[14:43] <shadeslayer> lets try compiling kdelibs :P
[14:51] <Quintasan> apachelogger: -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON but I see not GLES when doing make :<
[14:53] <apachelogger> KWIN_HAVE_OPENGLES_COMPOSITING
[14:53] <apachelogger> kaboom
[14:53] <Quintasan> ehh
[14:53] <shadeslayer> yofel: huh, i have no incoming jobs
[14:53] <apachelogger> unless my insanely old master is different
[14:54] <yofel> shadeslayer: are you on oneiric with fixed pbuilder and fixed icecc?
[14:54] <Quintasan> [~]% cat Sauce/pbuilder/ninjas-amd64/result/kde-workspace_4.7.0-0ubuntu2_amd64.build | grep KWIN_HAVE_OPENGLES_COMPOSITING
[14:54] <Quintasan> nothing
[14:54] <Quintasan> :S
[14:54] <yofel> note: you'll need fixed icecc INSIDE pbuilder
[14:54] <shadeslayer> yofel: i'm just trying to do a normal compile of kdelibs
[14:54] <Quintasan> apachelogger: cmake ../.. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debian -DCMAKE_USE_RELATIVE_PATHS=ON -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON <= that's the cmake that gets called
[14:54] <shadeslayer> using make CC=icecc -j20
[14:55] <yofel> shadeslayer: right, and archive pbuilder has a bug re passing of env vars, so icecc isn't in the PATH - check what compiler is found by cmake
[14:55] <yofel> Check for working C compiler: /usr/lib/ccache/gcc
[14:55] <yofel> is what I get
[14:56] <yofel> and I have 'export CCACHE_PATH=/usr/lib/icecc/bin' in my pbuilderrc which makes ccache run icecc
[14:57] <Quintasan> Dirty hacks everywhere
[14:57] <yofel> pbuilder is a dirty hack by design ^^
[14:57] <shadeslayer> export CCACHE_PATH=/usr/lib/icecc/bin'
[14:57] <shadeslayer> erm
[14:58] <shadeslayer> Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc
[14:58] <Quintasan> Y U NO BUILD WITH GLES KWIN?
[14:58] <yofel> shadeslayer: take pbuilder from ninjas
[14:58] <shadeslayer> dude
[14:59] <shadeslayer> its not a pbuilder
[14:59] <shadeslayer> i'm compiling a regular build via git
[14:59] <yofel> ah, local build?
[14:59] <shadeslayer> yes
[14:59] <yofel> is icecc in your PATH?
[14:59] <yofel> just export PATH="/usr/lib/icecc/bin:$PATH"
[15:02] <shadeslayer> isn't it /usr/bin/icecc ?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> and btw it is
[15:02] <yofel> read man icecc, you don't invoke icecc directly
[15:04] <shadeslayer> oic
[15:07] <shadeslayer> will set it up laterz
[15:08] <shadeslayer> have to work right now
[15:10]  * yofel needs to go too, bbl
[15:23] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: We need to come up with some logos for things in teh store?
[16:01] <shadeslayer> btw does anyone have a ATi card and when you install the fglrx driver you get a "AMD Unsupported Hardware" watermark at the bottom left?
[16:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: you meant soprano on natty right?
[17:06] <yofel> shadeslayer: yes
[17:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: i compiled raptor2 from oneirc on natty, builds just fine, want me to upload that to ninjas?
[17:08] <yofel> sure
[17:14] <shadeslayer> networking manager in neon is broken btw
[17:14] <yofel> I mentioned that in my blog post
[17:14] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[17:14] <yofel> upload a nm09 snapshot if you need it
[17:15] <shadeslayer> no use, i don't have a wireless driver so won't make much of a difference
[17:48] <jussi> DarkwingDuck: yeah, we need to come up with designs of what things should look like.
[17:51] <Quintasan> DarkwingDuck: Can you review my merge request on kubuntu-docs? It just fixed a typo :)
[18:07] <shadeslayer> you need newer librasqal2 for raptor as well
[18:07] <shadeslayer> uh
[18:07] <shadeslayer> s/raptor/redland/
[18:07] <kubotu> shadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[18:09] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:10] <shadeslayer> lol, now you also need libgmp-dev for librasqal3
[18:50] <DarkwingDuck> Quintasan: Yes, I can do that.
[18:51] <DarkwingDuck> I'm getting new internet today with another company... (cheaper) so, I'll approve it tonight.
[18:52] <DarkwingDuck> Quintasan: When did you submit it?
[20:12] <dtchen> off-topic, but -I've noticed that KDE in Oneiric just tends to stay out of my way and lets me fix bugs. That rocks.
[20:31] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 221 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream tar
[20:38] <afiestas> remember to update BlueDevil's package to 1.1.1
[20:40] <yofel> does that fix my n900 not paring properly but asking me for a key every time I connect in oneiric?
[20:40] <yofel> *pairing
[20:41] <yofel> esp. annoying if I use DUN
[20:44] <Quintasan> yofel: Are you going to upgrade BlueDevil or want me to do so?
[20:45] <yofel> I'll do it - didn't you work on maliit?
[20:45] <afiestas> yofel: I don't know, myt N900 is pairing perfect so maybe we can do some tests with yours and see what's happening
[20:45] <afiestas> have you open a bug for that?
[20:45] <yofel> not yet, only noticed it recently, and don't know where to look
[20:45] <Quintasan> yofel: I'm trying, what I got so far is installable package but it doesnt do tests
[20:45] <Quintasan> Hence it's no suitable for main
[20:45] <afiestas> yofel: kdebugdialog, enable all the output
[20:45] <Quintasan> s/no/sot
[20:45] <Quintasan> ffs
[20:45] <Quintasan> not*
[20:46] <afiestas> execute bluedevil-wizard into a shell, try to pair the N900 and give me the output
[20:46] <yofel> give me a few mins
[20:46] <afiestas> also, be sore to remove the device from the list of "configured devices" if it is there
[20:46] <Quintasan> yofel: There is something wrong in LD_LIBRARY_PATH and the test won't run but I have no idea how to fix it in the first place
[20:48] <Quintasan> mgraesslin_: ping
[20:51] <Quintasan> mgraesslin: For what buildflag should I look to find out whether KWin was built with GLES?
[20:51] <Quintasan> parsing buildlog for GLES yields: -lGLESv2
[20:52] <mgraesslin> Quintasan: look for message "Compiling KWin for mobile."
[20:53] <Quintasan> Oh yeah!
[20:53] <Quintasan> Now just to install it :)
[20:54] <Quintasan> mgraesslin: kwin-gles should land in oneiric soon
[20:55] <mgraesslin> cool
[20:55] <mgraesslin> and hopefully we won't need it in oneiric+1 any more :-)
[20:55] <yofel> as always, when you want to debug something it works perfectly fine *-.-
[20:56] <yofel> afiestas: I'll poke you if I can reproduce it again
[20:56] <Quintasan> mgraesslin: Fortunately enough it's an easy to revert change
[20:57] <mgraesslin> :-)
[20:57] <mgraesslin> just out of interest: are you able to compile everything in one go or do you process kde-workspace twice?
[20:59] <Quintasan> mgraesslin: it goes through build process twice
[21:00] <Quintasan> mgraesslin: I start the build process, make a tea and it's done here :)
[21:00] <Quintasan> apachelogger or ScottK: Should I rename the gles kwin binary?
[21:06] <apachelogger> Quintasan_: nah, why?
[21:06] <apachelogger> replace/conflicts stuff 
[21:13] <mgraesslin> and it's not only the binary - also the effects and effectslib needs to conflict
[21:20] <Quintasan_> apachelogger: Stuff that mgraesslin mentioned is in the same package, right?
[21:20] <apachelogger> yeah
[21:20] <apachelogger> you'll likely need to restructure some packages for that
[21:20] <apachelogger> as we probably do have kwin stuff in shared packages
[21:20] <apachelogger> like the desktop files
[21:21] <Quintasan> Let's make sure it builds and installs as expected
[21:22] <yofel> bluedevil in ninjas
[21:22] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Wouldn't just making kde-window-manager-gles conflics/replace kde-window-manager cut it?
[21:22] <apachelogger> not if there is libraries and stuff in other packages
[21:22] <apachelogger> you'll need to check
[21:23] <apachelogger> if all is in kde-window-manager then we are good
[21:23] <apachelogger> but I find this unlikely
[21:23] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I copypaste'd kde-window-manager.install into kde-window-manager-gles.install, added debian/tmp-kwin-gles prefix and it installs everything
[21:41] <Quintasan> yofel: Any idea if the missing copyrights stuff is fixed or I need to check the tarballs?
[21:42] <Quintasan> I'm talking about 4.7,0
[21:42] <yofel> apachelogger: procedure question: how many people need to mark their times on the doodle poll for it to take effect? (I'm currently thinking of >= 5 people)
[21:42] <yofel> Quintasan: should be fine right now, and it's not like we can fix anything there upstream due to the release freeze
[21:43] <Quintasan> yofel: I think you need KC quorum
[21:43] <Quintasan> Or the voting will be moved to ML
[21:43] <yofel> that's... 6? As this is a dev not council meeting
[21:44] <yofel> I know I need at least 3 +1 votes
[21:44] <yofel> no hurry anyway, seem like monday - wednesday next week are the best times for jr
[21:45] <Quintasan> No idea if it counts but you get +1 from me
[21:45]  * yofel hugs Quintasan
[21:45] <Quintasan> ksaneplugin in ppa and bzr
[21:46] <yofel> although, if we do this on friday I could help with uploading 4.7 :P
[21:47]  * Quintasan runs his oneiric VM
[21:48] <Quintasan> server install <3
[21:51] <bambee> yofel kubuntu dev <3
[21:53] <bambee> good night all
[22:16] <yofel> ScottK: managed to reproduce the s-c-p error?
[22:23] <Quintasan> Upgrade to 4.7.0 successful
[22:23] <Quintasan> Stuff works but jockey crashes here
[22:24] <yofel> can you open the touchpad settings?
[22:24] <yofel> I don't quite get what goes wrong there
[22:25] <Quintasan> Let me try, I just closed the VMs
[22:26] <Quintasan> yofel, I can open it, but no touchpad is found
[22:27] <Quintasan> Since I'm on a pc
[22:27] <Quintasan> :Do
[22:27] <yofel> great, then I guess you need a touchpad to crash it http://paste.kde.org/101935
[22:28] <yofel> ~KAboutData crashing is odd though...
[22:28] <Quintasan> well, I am going to bed, see you tomorrow
[22:28] <yofel> gn
[22:28]  * yofel can't reproduce that printer crash either and shuts the natty vm down again