[01:33] gtk3 will be off the CD tomorrow. [01:50] ScottK: hmm? [01:50] Doesn't serve much point on a Kubuntu CD and we need the space. [01:56] Why was it there? [02:42] We seed appmenu-gtk3 so that any GTK3 apps someone installs just work with the plasma-widget-menubar. Since it does nothing if no GTK3 apps are installed, I got the Ubuntu Desktop people to remove the depends. [02:44] apachelogger: We need to have someone package https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/artwork/oxygen-gtk so GTK3 stuff can look good in Kubuntu. [06:26] Quintasan_: pong [06:26] ScottK: wondering who though ^^ [07:37] morning [08:55] morning [09:14] Morning. [09:14] Woah. I actually said something at this channel [09:16] heh, good morning skfin ^^ [09:21] :) [09:21] * jussi waves to skfin [09:22] * skfin spots jussi and says good morning to him [09:24] btw. can someone with 4.7.0 run 'kcmshell4 kcm_synaptiks' please? crashes here [09:24] http://paste.kde.org/101533 [09:27] yofel: crashes here as well (kdelibs 4.6.90, synaptik 0.7.0) [09:27] :S === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [09:40] apachelogger: ping [09:41] pogo [09:52] apachelogger: bambee. [09:53] yes? [09:54] Fancy packaging https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/artwork/oxygen-gtk [09:54] * ScottK must go. [09:57] * yofel got poked about lp bug 577560 and kde bug 278399 [09:57] I'll try to get an SRU for the first one done, but latter isn't really SRU material... [09:57] Launchpad bug 577560 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "can't connect to WPA2 Entreprise using PEAP and MSCHAPv2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/577560 [09:57] KDE bug 278399 in general "Make configshell deactivatable" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278399 [10:00] What sort of state is oneiric in currently? is it half runnable or completely borked? :D [10:01] jussi: half runnable (as long as you don't want to configure your touchpad) [10:01] ok :D [10:01] * yofel is on oneiric right now [10:02] hey guys i just wanted to inform youi about lp bug 815992 [10:02] Launchpad bug 815992 in koffice (Ubuntu) "krita uses 100% cpu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/815992 [10:04] doesn't use 100% CPU here, but doesn't start either [10:04] krita(18563)/koffice (lib komain): "krita" part.desktop not found. [10:06] yofel: what about the solution that worked for the fedora guys? [10:08] maybe, but I first need to find out what they did to openCTL [10:09] * yofel doesn't get how to get a diff out of the fedore build system o.O [10:09] *fedora [10:10] what i see so far is https://bitbucket.org/opengtl/opengtl/changeset/c6f1381966ff [10:12] reached that too, let's see if I can get krita to actually try to start first [10:13] ok, *hangs* [10:14] same here on different machines [10:16] apachelogger: According to ScottK, getting kwin-gles is double building kde-workspace, did you have anything else in mind? [10:25] why double-building? [10:26] Quintasan: nope [10:26] yofel: cause it currently only is a buildtime option [10:26] Quintasan: though you perhaps could just double build kwin [10:27] do we want it on anything else than armel? [10:27] yes [10:27] ok [10:27] martin explicitly asked for it [10:27] double building it is then [10:28] tell me when you've got it figured out, we'll need it in neon too [10:28] or rather Quintasan should just do it there too [10:30] schmidtm: krita fixed, thanks for debugging this! [10:30] I'll get the patch into the archive [11:31] shadeslayer: as emacs user, can you confirm bug 784379 in natty? [11:31] Launchpad bug 784379 in gtk2-engines-oxygen (Ubuntu) "Oxygen-gtk style fails to load with Emacs" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784379 [11:35] * apachelogger blinks [11:52] Hello peoples! [11:52] Ive been following up on the "not much kubuntu stuff in the canonical store" [11:52] Who is our resident designer? [11:52] I believe sheytan is the only one doing design work right now [11:53] We need to provide designs of what we want in the store [11:53] although DarkwingDuck tried to do some logos I believe [11:54] They say they arent going to order _lots_ because last time the stuff sat around for 3 years, which potentially will make the stuff cost a trifle more than the ubuntu stuff [11:55] We need to come up with a few items that we particularly want, and provide some designs that comply with ubuntu design guidelines [12:11] apachelogger: Well, double building it seems easy but I wonder if what I did will be enough [12:12] apachelogger: What needs to be added to build-deps to get GLES built? [12:12] libgles2-mesa-dev and libegl1-mesa-dev I guess [12:13] just try it :P [12:14] * Quintasan tries [12:14] Should be done today unless I run into some dark magic I do not understand [12:15] apachelogger: Am I wrong to think that iMX board is kind of useless for our purpose now? [12:15] well [12:16] did you contact someone from freescale for drivers yet? [12:16] I did not, I thought you did that [12:16] nope [12:16] * apachelogger is doing pornon [12:16] * Quintasan wants to have nothing with Freescale support [12:17] jussi: ping [12:17] whaaaaaaaatttttt? [12:18] jussi: If you are not busy, could you mail Freescale and ask them if they have any plans to release drivers that would work with new Ubuntu etc.? [12:18] Quintasan: perhaps. [12:19] jussi: I think it would be good to point them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/iMX53QuickStartBoard so you don't have to go on about what the hell is wrong [12:19] Quintasan: freescale peoples are on holidays currently [12:20] jussi: Emails will reach them anyways so they can PROBABLY take action when they are back [12:20] next month they are back [12:20] MONTH?! [12:20] * Quintasan curses [12:20] Quintasan: its like 5 days away [12:20] oh [13:00] apachelogger: -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON <-- is that flag good? [13:02] yus [13:02] apachelogger, Quintasan, debfx: comments? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PhilipMuskovac/KubuntuDevApplication [13:07] hahahaha [13:07] yofel: "missing Ubuntu ONE client (couldn't resist :P)" [13:07] yofel: looks fine to me [13:08] * yofel tries to figure out doodle [13:08] yofel: looks fine to me too [13:09] shadeslayer: You can't give him endorsement yet :P [13:09] I guess I'll limit it till a week from now, after that is DS [13:10] apachelogger: I might have some info regarding EGL magic on iMX today [13:11] Quintasan: yeah i know, just saying it looks good [13:12] Y U RUN -j1 PBUILDER? [13:12] wot [13:12] iirc you can overload that [13:12] How exactly? [13:13] export MAKEFLAGS="-j11" in pbuilderrc doesnt help [13:15] oh .. [13:17] silly persons do you need the documentation I write [13:17] mail sent [13:17] * yofel gets a feeling of doom... [13:19] apachelogger: What? [13:19] pbuilder-hooks readme for example [13:19] Quintasan: shadeslayer cannot, but you could ;) [13:19] >>> grep "\-j" src/bzr/pbuilder-hooks/README [13:19] DEBBUILDOPTS="-j5" [13:20] wheee .... libindi upstream says they'll fix stuff in a couple of days \o/ [13:21] on a related note I guess I could also remind you that I wrote some cool mail about speeding up builds like a year ago [13:21] did i mention that synaptiks is broken? [13:21] http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-devel/2010-07/msg00069.html [13:23] OH U PBUILDER DIST [13:24] oh, and you'll need oneiric with ninjas enabled to have working ccache and icecc in pbuilder [13:24] !@#$%^ wrapper [13:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about wrapper [13:27] oh pbuilder-dist u are so dead [13:28] muhah, installed libraptor2 from natty to maverick system [13:37] yofel: Check the Doodle [13:37] :D [13:38] holidays++ [13:38] apachelogger: omg, I think I found the lamest pun even [13:39] lol [13:39] "Man makes a mistake in elevator. Wrong on many levels" [13:39] heh [13:40] hm, I made a mistake when setting up the poll :S [13:40] that should be 12AM, not PM -.- [13:40] yofel: that emacs bug is a works for me on oneiric btw [13:41] shadeslayer: oneiric has newer oxygen-gtk, so that would only be broken in natty [13:41] ah right, you're on O now [13:41] yeah, lemme fire me old machine and check [13:41] well, 12PM would work with me too, just not tomorrow [13:43] stupid radeon driver [13:43] can't even change my screen brightness [13:44] * Quintasan kills pbuilder-dist with fire [13:44] * shadeslayer kills ATi with fire [13:44] Quintasan: want my pbuilderrc? uses env vars [13:44] yofel: The one from ubuntu wiki? I got that know [13:45] Quintasan: not quite the one from the wiki http://paste.kde.org/101647 [13:46] yofel: it is the broken on natty [13:46] I ain't usin icecc yofel :< [13:46] ^^ i have to setup icecc [13:46] then just comment that out ^^ [13:46] * Quintasan has no other amd64 box [13:48] yofel: I think you can fix0r a doodle [13:48] Quintasan: I think your pun is horrible [13:48] shadeslayer: I think you should do some work [13:48] everyone: I think I am not running 4.7 yet, can we plz fix that? [13:49] apachelogger: lol, I found it on internets, just sayin [13:49] yofel: PBUILDERSATISFYDEPENDSCMD="/usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi" [13:49] DIS [13:49] apachelogger: true, thanks for reminding me [13:49] IS SUPERIOR [13:49] why are you using that junk... [13:50] junk? it's faster [13:50] ... [13:50] *shrug*, aptitude works at least [13:51] Quintasan: look at the poll again [13:53] Quintasan: thy shalt not use experimental stuff [13:54] it can essentially render the testbuild useless [13:54] by wrongly resolving the dep or resolving one that should not be resolved [13:54] etc. [13:59] ... [13:59] apachelogger: that DEBBUILTOPTS doesnt work [13:59] make[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1. Add `+' to parent make rule. [14:00] http://paste.kde.org/101653 [14:00] right [14:01] you are doing both [14:01] WTF [14:01] like [14:01] dude [14:01] what the fish?!?!!? [14:01] What now? [14:01] o.O [14:01] of course that aint working if you export two shites [14:02] * Quintasan comments our export bleh bleh and checks [14:02] as a matter of fact.. [14:02] it used to work [14:02] 9 DEBBUILDOPTS="-j12" [14:02] 8 export MAKEFLAGS="-j12" [14:02] works fine here [14:03] apachelogger: ^ [14:03] :/ [14:04] make[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1. Add `+' to parent make rule. [14:04] SUP apachelogger [14:04] you are doing it wrong(tm) [14:04] yofel: why would you export both anyway? [14:05] not sure, had a reason for it once and I don't fix things that aren't broken [14:07] no idea but according to apachelogger I am doing it wrong and it doesnt work with both lines or one of them commented out [14:08] what I would be more curious about would be why the jobserver is unavailable in the first place [14:08] try with another package? [14:11] apachelogger: ja ja, i'm working on fixing that as well [14:15] yofel: I ain't getting missing jobserver error in maliit but it still uses j1 [14:15] :/ [14:17] whats up that needs a test build? [14:18] just need to figure out how to setup icecc [14:18] you could try to figure out soprano for natty ;P [14:19] sure :) [14:25] yofel: -j12 ? [14:25] wow [14:26] bambee: icecc, the scheduler takes care of limiting the jobs on the machines [14:27] oh icecc [14:36] weird, no machines on my network [14:40] \o/ http://wstaw.org/m/2011/07/26/plasma-desktopXV1457.jpg [14:41] :D [14:43] lets try compiling kdelibs :P [14:51] apachelogger: -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON but I see not GLES when doing make :< [14:53] KWIN_HAVE_OPENGLES_COMPOSITING [14:53] kaboom [14:53] ehh [14:53] yofel: huh, i have no incoming jobs [14:53] unless my insanely old master is different [14:54] shadeslayer: are you on oneiric with fixed pbuilder and fixed icecc? [14:54] [~]% cat Sauce/pbuilder/ninjas-amd64/result/kde-workspace_4.7.0-0ubuntu2_amd64.build | grep KWIN_HAVE_OPENGLES_COMPOSITING [14:54] nothing [14:54] :S [14:54] note: you'll need fixed icecc INSIDE pbuilder [14:54] yofel: i'm just trying to do a normal compile of kdelibs [14:54] apachelogger: cmake ../.. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debian -DCMAKE_USE_RELATIVE_PATHS=ON -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON <= that's the cmake that gets called [14:54] using make CC=icecc -j20 [14:55] shadeslayer: right, and archive pbuilder has a bug re passing of env vars, so icecc isn't in the PATH - check what compiler is found by cmake [14:55] Check for working C compiler: /usr/lib/ccache/gcc [14:55] is what I get [14:56] and I have 'export CCACHE_PATH=/usr/lib/icecc/bin' in my pbuilderrc which makes ccache run icecc [14:57] Dirty hacks everywhere [14:57] pbuilder is a dirty hack by design ^^ [14:57] export CCACHE_PATH=/usr/lib/icecc/bin' [14:57] erm [14:58] Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc [14:58] Y U NO BUILD WITH GLES KWIN? [14:58] shadeslayer: take pbuilder from ninjas [14:58] dude [14:59] its not a pbuilder [14:59] i'm compiling a regular build via git [14:59] ah, local build? [14:59] yes [14:59] is icecc in your PATH? [14:59] just export PATH="/usr/lib/icecc/bin:$PATH" [15:02] isn't it /usr/bin/icecc ? [15:02] and btw it is [15:02] read man icecc, you don't invoke icecc directly [15:04] oic [15:07] will set it up laterz [15:08] have to work right now [15:10] * yofel needs to go too, bbl [15:23] jussi: We need to come up with some logos for things in teh store? [16:01] btw does anyone have a ATi card and when you install the fglrx driver you get a "AMD Unsupported Hardware" watermark at the bottom left? [16:12] yofel: you meant soprano on natty right? === bambee_ is now known as bambee [17:06] shadeslayer: yes [17:07] yofel: i compiled raptor2 from oneirc on natty, builds just fine, want me to upload that to ninjas? [17:08] sure [17:14] networking manager in neon is broken btw [17:14] I mentioned that in my blog post [17:14] ah ok [17:14] upload a nm09 snapshot if you need it [17:15] no use, i don't have a wireless driver so won't make much of a difference [17:48] DarkwingDuck: yeah, we need to come up with designs of what things should look like. [17:51] DarkwingDuck: Can you review my merge request on kubuntu-docs? It just fixed a typo :) [18:07] you need newer librasqal2 for raptor as well [18:07] uh [18:07] s/raptor/redland/ [18:07] shadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [18:09] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [18:10] lol, now you also need libgmp-dev for librasqal3 === tuos is now known as tuomasjjrasanen [18:50] Quintasan: Yes, I can do that. [18:51] I'm getting new internet today with another company... (cheaper) so, I'll approve it tonight. [18:52] Quintasan: When did you submit it? [20:12] off-topic, but -I've noticed that KDE in Oneiric just tends to stay out of my way and lets me fix bugs. That rocks. [20:31] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 221 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream tar [20:38] remember to update BlueDevil's package to 1.1.1 [20:40] does that fix my n900 not paring properly but asking me for a key every time I connect in oneiric? [20:40] *pairing [20:41] esp. annoying if I use DUN [20:44] yofel: Are you going to upgrade BlueDevil or want me to do so? [20:45] I'll do it - didn't you work on maliit? [20:45] yofel: I don't know, myt N900 is pairing perfect so maybe we can do some tests with yours and see what's happening [20:45] have you open a bug for that? [20:45] not yet, only noticed it recently, and don't know where to look [20:45] yofel: I'm trying, what I got so far is installable package but it doesnt do tests [20:45] Hence it's no suitable for main [20:45] yofel: kdebugdialog, enable all the output [20:45] s/no/sot [20:45] ffs [20:45] not* [20:46] execute bluedevil-wizard into a shell, try to pair the N900 and give me the output [20:46] give me a few mins [20:46] also, be sore to remove the device from the list of "configured devices" if it is there [20:46] yofel: There is something wrong in LD_LIBRARY_PATH and the test won't run but I have no idea how to fix it in the first place [20:48] mgraesslin_: ping [20:51] mgraesslin: For what buildflag should I look to find out whether KWin was built with GLES? [20:51] parsing buildlog for GLES yields: -lGLESv2 [20:52] Quintasan: look for message "Compiling KWin for mobile." [20:53] Oh yeah! [20:53] Now just to install it :) [20:54] mgraesslin: kwin-gles should land in oneiric soon [20:55] cool [20:55] and hopefully we won't need it in oneiric+1 any more :-) [20:55] as always, when you want to debug something it works perfectly fine *-.- [20:56] afiestas: I'll poke you if I can reproduce it again [20:56] mgraesslin: Fortunately enough it's an easy to revert change [20:57] :-) [20:57] just out of interest: are you able to compile everything in one go or do you process kde-workspace twice? [20:59] mgraesslin: it goes through build process twice [21:00] mgraesslin: I start the build process, make a tea and it's done here :) [21:00] apachelogger or ScottK: Should I rename the gles kwin binary? [21:06] Quintasan_: nah, why? [21:06] replace/conflicts stuff [21:13] and it's not only the binary - also the effects and effectslib needs to conflict === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:20] apachelogger: Stuff that mgraesslin mentioned is in the same package, right? [21:20] yeah [21:20] you'll likely need to restructure some packages for that [21:20] as we probably do have kwin stuff in shared packages [21:20] like the desktop files === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [21:21] Let's make sure it builds and installs as expected [21:22] bluedevil in ninjas [21:22] apachelogger: Wouldn't just making kde-window-manager-gles conflics/replace kde-window-manager cut it? [21:22] not if there is libraries and stuff in other packages [21:22] you'll need to check [21:23] if all is in kde-window-manager then we are good [21:23] but I find this unlikely [21:23] apachelogger: I copypaste'd kde-window-manager.install into kde-window-manager-gles.install, added debian/tmp-kwin-gles prefix and it installs everything [21:41] yofel: Any idea if the missing copyrights stuff is fixed or I need to check the tarballs? [21:42] I'm talking about 4.7,0 [21:42] apachelogger: procedure question: how many people need to mark their times on the doodle poll for it to take effect? (I'm currently thinking of >= 5 people) [21:42] Quintasan: should be fine right now, and it's not like we can fix anything there upstream due to the release freeze [21:43] yofel: I think you need KC quorum [21:43] Or the voting will be moved to ML [21:43] that's... 6? As this is a dev not council meeting [21:44] I know I need at least 3 +1 votes [21:44] no hurry anyway, seem like monday - wednesday next week are the best times for jr [21:45] No idea if it counts but you get +1 from me [21:45] * yofel hugs Quintasan [21:45] ksaneplugin in ppa and bzr [21:46] although, if we do this on friday I could help with uploading 4.7 :P [21:47] * Quintasan runs his oneiric VM [21:48] server install <3 [21:51] yofel kubuntu dev <3 [21:53] good night all [22:16] ScottK: managed to reproduce the s-c-p error? [22:23] Upgrade to 4.7.0 successful [22:23] Stuff works but jockey crashes here [22:24] can you open the touchpad settings? [22:24] I don't quite get what goes wrong there [22:25] Let me try, I just closed the VMs [22:26] yofel, I can open it, but no touchpad is found [22:27] Since I'm on a pc [22:27] :Do [22:27] great, then I guess you need a touchpad to crash it http://paste.kde.org/101935 [22:28] ~KAboutData crashing is odd though... [22:28] well, I am going to bed, see you tomorrow [22:28] gn [22:28] * yofel can't reproduce that printer crash either and shuts the natty vm down again