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KaleidoscopeI need help partitioning :)01:15
negaduckIs there a way to logout of a KIO?01:49
chaituGreetings All. Am trying to change my desktop theme and when I choose a new theme, I dont get a option to apply it. Can someone help me please?02:01
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negaduckchaitu: Sorry how are you changing the theme?03:02
chaitusystem settings03:03
chaitusystem settings -> advanced tab ->desktop theme details03:03
negaduckRight ok what did you change?03:04
negaduckchaitu: Just clicked on one of the options at the top or you went into more detail ?03:05
chaituonce i click on desktop theme details, it gives me new window which shows the current theme03:06
chaituthen I click on drop down box and try changing it03:06
chaituit doesnt change anything03:06
negaduckchaitu: Ah what version of KDE are you using?03:07
chaituone sec nega03:07
chaitunegaduck, *03:07
negaduckoh my :)03:07
chaitulol i know..pretty old03:08
negaduckOk I'm using KDE 4.7 so I wouldn't be able to confirm or deny that03:08
negaduckare you on LTS?03:08
chaituumnn sorry..whats lts?03:08
chaitulet me look up03:09
chaituI know these silly questions might be irritating03:09
chaituoh long term support?03:10
chaitukde.org does not show any03:12
chaituah wb lol..thought you were around03:12
chaituI don't see anything for 4.3.5 lts on kde.org..03:13
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)03:13
negaduckDNS died03:13
chaituyeah..I dont think its supported.03:14
chaituwill download latest version of this distro and install it I guess03:14
chaitunegaduck: one more question please. what do you do for your fonts on linux? I mean, browsing is not the same as on windows...is there any distro which has nice fonts in linux too? does kubuntu have any fix?03:15
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer. For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/03:15
negaduckchaitu: Might help if you have a /home partition for the jump03:16
chaituwow looks like you guys have seen lot of newbies. nice thanks a ton03:16
chaituI have home../home03:16
negaduckchaitu: is it on it's own partition?03:18
chaitunegaduck: once you implement whats written in that file, will fonts on browsers and websites look like windows?03:18
chaituyes negaduck03:18
chaitu17 gb of home03:18
negaduckchaitu: Wonderful :)03:19
negaduck not so much a newbie :)03:19
chaitulol I played with this for sometime..like installing awn and those desktop effects apps..other than that..not much03:20
negaduckNeat how have you liked the playground so far?03:21
chaituI like it...its just that my browsing experience is not up to the mark..like how it looks on linux..03:22
negaduckchaitu: try chromium when you upgrade. It pulls in it's own fonts and so on03:22
negaduckbut people like tweaking their own fonts alot03:22
chaituafter trying all that apps about desktop effects, I dont think I want them once I download the latest version of kbuntu..am good with default03:22
chaitui see03:23
chaitunegaduck: if i can ask you one more question, I was suggested that we dont need /home partition and one large / will do just fine. is that true? I mean..every linux book has /home while installing that I read03:25
rwwchaitu: I don't have a separate /home and have never regretted this, so...03:26
chaituI see..but wouldnt your / folder has somany folders and confuse you with folders you create? like /pics, /music and so on?03:27
chaituhave* heh03:28
negaduckchaitu: You don't need it but I don't see a downside to having one03:28
negaduckchaitu: If you have a single / partition you will still have a /home directory03:29
rwwchaitu: It looks the same either way. The difference with a separate /home is that /home goes to a different partition underneath. Pictures still go in /home/username/Pictures if there isn't a separate /home partition...03:29
negaduckit looks the same. Just if you format you lose all the data in your /home as well03:29
rwwI think negaduck explained that better ;)03:29
chaituooh..I get it. cool03:29
chaituand 10 gb for / is good enough, right?03:30
negaduckShould be03:32
negaduckI've never had mine that large and I've never run out of space03:32
negaduckand I install a ridiculous amount of rubbish03:32
chaituI have mine as 5 now but it says no space to upgrade to the latest version03:32
chaitu78% used..am not sure if all those desktop effect progs I installed did not take much space..03:33
chaituaight guys. I will download and install the latest version and come back.03:39
chaituThanks a bunch for your help. You guys really help newbies like me try things out.03:40
LINKSWORD2Greetings, all.04:04
what_ifjust did some updates... system is running slooowww... like something is hogging the cpu... but nothing is. any ideas?04:17
negaduckwhat_if: hoggin the RAM?04:20
what_ifnegaduck: 476mb used, 4gb installed 0mb swap usage04:21
negaduckwhat_if: turn off desktop effects?04:28
what_iffound the issue... the keyboard disconnected (hub disconnect) about 12 times very rapidly then goat a new address on every reconnection. Xorg no likey. off to restart X brb04:43
KaleidoscopeAnyone know why KPackageKit is DLing at 10 KBPS?05:10
LINKSWORD2Kaleidoscope: KPackageKit is most often used for system updates...05:20
LINKSWORD2Although, it does also manage extra packages, when you request them to be downloaded.05:21
ubuntu____can anyone help me??05:22
ubuntu____grub does not detect my kubuntu partition..05:23
ubuntu____i now using live cd05:23
LINKSWORD2Are you using GRUB, or the newer GRUB2?05:23
LINKSWORD2Also, is your live cd Kubuntu, and if so, please check the version.05:24
ubuntu____i dont know.. how to know it?05:24
ubuntu____kubuntu 11.0405:24
LINKSWORD2I'm not very familiar with any of the GRUB partition selectors.05:25
ubuntu____my grub version is: (GRUB) 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu305:27
LINKSWORD2I can do a fair bit in Kubuntu, but with GRUB, I'd be better off not guessing...05:28
LINKSWORD2Sorry, I have to leave.05:29
ubuntu____does anyone else can help me?05:29
KaleidoscopeBoth KPackageKit and Apt-get are going extremely slow05:33
ussher__im getting system freeze when i move the mouse quickly between screens.  I suspect its something to do with the nvidia drivers, how would i locate the exact source?  is there any system logs anywhere that would show the freeze?06:43
ussher__on kubuntu 10.0406:43
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noaXesswhere to setup/enable the mouse paste command with both mouse buttons? single click to copy, combined left/right click to paste?07:20
iDanielSanHi, can someone help me configure Facebook chat on Kopete?08:11
RbY90I want to time the events that take place during kde launch sequence, starting from kdeinit application to konquerer (any program), is there any easy way to achieve it ????08:17
iDanielSanI want to add my Facebook Chat to Kopete. Already tried wit jabber acces -> not working at all08:20
iDanielSanany ideas?08:20
iDanielSan@RbY90 How about a shell script?08:20
RbY90iDanielSan : wouldnt I have to modify each any everyscript to find the difference of time spent ???08:22
S4LQuestion: Using Natty, how can I clear the DNS cache? Google just gives me old answers from 3 years ago08:26
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pancramhola a todos !!!09:12
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gigeniekshi guys09:50
gigenieksif I want to install Windows AFTER Kubuntu09:51
gigenieksand i know that Kubuntu is on09:51
gigenieksthen --->09:51
gigenieks5. step:09:52
gigenieks"sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX"09:52
gigenieksi should put sda OR sdc??09:52
yofelgigenieks: usually you put grub into the MBR of the device that's used as boot disk in BIOS10:00
yofelusually sda10:00
yofelor put it on sdc and mark that as boot disk in BIOS10:00
yofelI personally am happier with grub and the windows boot manager being on 2 different disks10:01
yofelless error-prone10:01
gigenieksIm confused..10:01
gigenieksok, so -10:01
gigenieksI found Kubuntu partion10:02
gigeniekssudo fdisk -l10:02
gigenieksthen I mount it by:10:02
jussi!enter | gigenieks10:02
ubottugigenieks: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:02
gigeniekssudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt10:02
gigeniekssdXY would be sdc510:03
gigenieksfor me now10:03
gigenieksand last I do10:03
gigeniekssudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX10:03
gigeniekssdX = whatever I choose10:03
yofelwell, you can use /dev/sdc - but then make sure you use  that disk as first boot disk in your BIOS boot order10:05
gigenieksI dont get it I have both Kubuntu and Windows on 1 hdd10:06
gigenieksso i need to set that hdd10:06
gigenieksin bios first10:06
Shirakawasunagigenieks: you'll find out soon enough with guess and check which one is right :).  You can edit grub dynamically by hitting 'e' when grub loads, if you fail and need to change sda to sdc10:09
Shirakawasunagigenieks: the basic idea is that you install windows, then boot to a linux live CD, then chroot and grub install.  Follow a good guide for doing the chroot and grub install.  Gentoo and archlinux have excellent docs on this, though they may not apply to grub2.10:10
gigenieksI read this:10:10
gigenieksCopy LiveCD Files10:10
gigenieksis instructions10:10
FloodBotK2gigenieks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:11
gigenieksI just dont get that last line10:11
gigenieksI have 3 HDD10:11
gigeniekssda, sdb sdc (sdc has Windows (who doesnt work now) and Kubuntu)10:11
gigenieksin bios 1st hdd is sdc10:12
gigeniekshere is my setup:10:13
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briandw1969anyone here?12:11
lolcatI am here12:11
briandw1969im having probs with Java12:11
[dlp]Can KDE handle multiple logins as the same user?12:11
lolcatAnyways, I am scrolling 35ish active channels so I migth not see what you write12:11
[dlp]e.g. via XDMCP, VNC, etc.12:12
lolcat[dlp]: Can moose shit in the forrest?12:12
lolcatbriandw1969: Marvelous. Try to ask a quesition maybe?12:12
[dlp]Or will it cause issues?12:12
bazhanglolcat, watch the language12:12
briandw1969my browsers are not showing Java enabled12:13
[dlp]There were a few problems doing this under KDE 3.12:13
* yofel can confirm that loggin in with 2 users from kdm at the same time will work, but has no idea about XDMCP or VNC12:13
lolcat[dlp]: sorry, can moose defececate in the forrest?12:13
lolcatbazhang: Writing the correct terms are complicated12:13
yofel!java | briandw196912:13
ubottubriandw1969: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.12:13
[dlp]"Single instance" programs don't like it, obviously.12:13
lolcat[dlp]: chroot it!12:14
[dlp]Could do that.12:15
lolcatI learn chroot yesterday12:16
lolcatnow I have chrooted fifteen terminals12:16
[dlp]That would split up configurations tho. I might as well just log in as a different user.12:16
lolcat3 of wich with x12:16
[dlp]XDMCP would be KDM bas3ed.12:16
[dlp]It's actually VNC I'm interested in.12:16
altinhello there, I wanted to ask: do you suggest that I install a 64bit kubuntu on my pc ? I mean is it stable enough..12:27
altinand whats the compatibility of its programs12:27
altinare there Nvidia drivers and other stuff for 64bit ?12:28
yofelthere are, I'm running 64bit here and it works perfectly fine for me12:29
altinyofel: any problems of any kind with any software ?12:30
yofelYou might see issues with flash, as that's the 32bit plugin wrapped in nspluginwrapper to run on 64bit. But usually even that works fine12:30
altinaha, but mostly Im afraid I dont have drivers for Nvidia GeForce 9500 GT ?12:31
altinhow can i look for that ?12:31
briandw1969still cant get Java12:31
yofelThe drivers in the repository will work for that card12:31
yofelbriandw1969: what did you try to install? IIRC you could try to install kubuntu-restricted-extras, not sure12:32
briandw1969i tried the command lines from  http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc12:33
briandw1969but none of the commands did anything12:35
yofelbriandw1969: hm, if you don't need sun, you can try to install icedtea-plugin, which should give you the java web plugin12:36
briandw1969in package installer?12:36
briandw1969installed icedtea but still no java on my browsers12:39
yofelbriandw1969: which browser?12:41
briandw1969rekonq,ff so far12:41
yofelhm, if you open konsole and run 'ls -lha /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so' (without the quotes) what do you get?12:42
briandw1969lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 57 2011-07-26 07:37 /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so12:43
yofeldid you restart your browser?12:43
briandw1969there it is12:45
BluesKajHey all13:16
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^zenhobb-itCan you help me unistalling kubuntu 8.04 please?13:41
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tsimpson^zenhobb-it: you just install something else over it13:41
fede93g_I need help: How can I install SecondLife? I have downloaded the tar.bz2 from the official site, then i exctracted it, then I ran the install.sh file... But I cannot find the program in the "Start" menu...13:43
fede93g_I found it, but it does not work13:43
fede93g_Parlate italiano?13:50
^zenhobb-itHow can I disable kubuntu to be set as default Os at the boot, and restoring ubuntu instead?13:50
^zenhobb-itio sì13:50
fede93g_Ma il canale è inglese?13:51
BluesKaj!it |fede93g_13:51
ubottufede93g_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:51
fede93g_To set the default OS I used startupmanager13:52
BluesKajzegenie, if they are on separate partitions then you have to edit default grub , if not , choose ubuntu/gnome in the menu at login13:54
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^zenhobb-itHow can I disable kubuntu as default Os at the boot, and restore ubuntu instead?14:21
ubuntu4shaneok, this is very frustrating, I rebooted, after 5 or 6 or 7 days running, and my keyboard isn't loaded?? or something, I can't type, and mouse isn't activated either.  IT isn't hardware because keyboard works in grub menu, I tried booting older kernel, recovery nothing works14:22
ubuntu4shaneI can't ctrl-alt-f2,3,4 or nothing, because keyboard seems to have no power14:23
ubuntu4shaneI have no alternate OS installed, oddly enough, or at least not in my grup  config, how can I edit the grub boot loader to only load to init3?14:24
yofelubuntu4shane: not really, as RL3 does nothing special, but recovery mode might work14:25
yofelthough I'm not sure how that would happen, except a oneiric bug that was already fixed14:25
ubuntu4shaneyofel: recovery didn't work for me14:26
ubuntu4shaneif I could get to a cli I could at least troubleshoot, recover, but without that, I'm sunk14:26
yofelnot sure then, maybe try to kill X with alt+printscr+k and try to switch to tty then14:27
ubuntu4shanemake matters worse, I don't think I have an Ubuntu disk laying around, not recent one anyway14:27
yofelor use init=/bin/bash on the kernel command line skipping the whole system iniit14:27
ubuntu4shaneooh, that sounds like a better solution, let me try the first, one second, computer is in the other room14:27
ubuntu4shaneyofel: alt-printscr+k did the trick, blinked the screen; keyboard, and mouse are working, odd14:29
* yofel blames X then14:30
yofelcheck /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old14:30
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shane2peru1yofel: over here. :)  want me to pastebin that?14:33
yofelsure, I can take a look14:33
shane2peru1I'm up-to-date, I updated this AM and there were two small updates, but nothing great14:35
shane2peru1[    24.295] (II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/server-B20D7FC79C7F597315E3E501AEF10E0D866E8E92.xkm14:36
shane2peru1that seems odd14:36
shane2peru1oh, I misread that as refuse, no reuse14:37
yofel[    84.600] (EE) HID 0566:3107: failed to initialize for relative axes.14:37
yofelis the only error I see14:38
shane2peru1let me reboot and see if it does it again, brb14:38
shane2peru1yofel, same problem14:42
shane2peru1except pressing ctrl-pnt-screen-k was slow to work this time, I pressed it a few times before it worked, was it ctrl? or alt?14:43
yofelany useless settings in xorg.conf?14:43
shane2peru1yofel: problem14:43
shane2peru1I will get it right14:43
FloodBotK2shane2peru1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:43
shane2peru1that is my xorg14:44
shane2peru1yofel: I have hated xorg.conf since the begining of time, it is always a hassel for me.  I think I let nvidia set that up14:45
yofelshane2peru1: try mine http://paste.kde.org/101677/ (remove that brightness option)14:45
shane2peru1yofel: with that I lose my dual screen setup? correct?14:47
yofelprobably, *that* I now 0 about14:47
yofelso save yours first14:47
shane2peru1ok, could be a bad combination of bad recharable batteries in my wireless logitech trackball???14:56
shane2peru1now it works14:56
shane2peru1there is definitely something very strange going on14:56
shane2peru1that xorg.conf didn't help14:56
shane2peru1and I figured out that, I have to wait about 30 seconds before pressing alt-pntscreen-k works14:57
shane2peru1like it is lagging in loading?14:57
shane2peru1yofel: ^^^   any other ideas??14:57
yofelI've seen lags from X before, no idea14:58
shane2peru1how do I reset X without rebooting?  sudo service kdm restart?14:59
shane2peru1would that reload xorg.conf14:59
yofelS3Indiana: restarting kdm should be fine15:01
yofeler, shane2peru1 ^^15:01
shane2peru1reloading X was instant login, and got my dual screen back. :)  perhaps X isn't loading as fast as kubuntu is??15:01
shane2peru1got it. :)15:01
shane2peru1guess I just won't reboot for another 7-10 days. :)15:02
shane2peru1yofel: thanks for the help, greatly appreciated!!!15:02
yofelsure, you're welcome15:03
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Guest96156can somebody help me with a nvidia related problem?15:33
Guest96156i unistalled nvidia current and lost libgl.so and mplayer wont work15:34
Guest96156how can i get back libgl.so15:34
yellowgtoHey guys15:36
yellowgtoHaving troub;e15:36
yellowgtoI have no sound in KDE when switching from gnome15:37
yellowgtoHey guys15:56
krisehi me again16:19
krisecan anybody help me to get right klick working on my laptop HP probook 4520s16:20
krisei bet here is some good people16:22
kriseim bit slow do16:22
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krise can anybody help me to get right klick working on my laptop HP probook 4520s16:40
jan_whats up?16:59
Linkmasterjan_: if you have a question, go ahead and ask. Otherwise, join #kubuntu-offtopic so that it doesn't clog up the main support channel16:59
LinkmasterI've been trying to monkey around with GRUB to make it show a booting option for my newly created Gentoo installation[made in a chroot environment], though I didn't install GRUB using the gentoo. I run 'update-grub' and it 'sees' the gentoo installation, but when I reboot, I don't have an option to boot into it.17:04
yofelLinkmaster: are you sure you updated the grub.cfg of the grub installation that you boot with?17:06
Linkmasteryofel:  I believe so..I don't really play with grub too much, so I'm not exactly sure17:07
ib-mobile_something is wrong with configuring printers on my system.  When I try to add a printer, I'm only given they type other and it doesn't seem to do anything.  I've had printing working on this machine before so I'm not sure what happened.  I'm trying to setup a remote cups printer17:08
yofelLinkmaster: check if it's listed in grub.cfg, if it is then you should see it on boot17:09
genii-aroundLinkmaster: I suppose it also might matter where you chrooted to and did the install... like, a subdir in some partition, or the root of a partition, etc17:09
ib-mobile_I'm thinking reinstalling the print configuration tool may be the answer, but I'm not sure what package that would be17:09
Linkmastergenii-around: I know I was chrooted in the correct place, I had an empty partition, and mounted it via  /mnt/gentoo  and I did all my work from  /mnt/gentoo17:10
Linkmasteryofel: this is my partition setup: http://pastebin.com/zmBUs97f17:10
yofelok, but your grub installation with have it's prefix set to /boot from ubuntu, so you need to update the grub.cfg *there*17:11
LinkmasterI have an unfinished windows on sda1, sda5 is gentoo, sda6 is  /  for kubuntu, sda7 is  /home  for kubuntu, and sda8 is my swap17:11
yofelthe grub setup in gentoo will probably be ignored unless you run grub-install from there17:12
dlpI am having some seriously funky issues with KDE and XDMCP.17:12
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Linkmasteralright...let me mount gentoo, chroot in there, and install grub from there. Hopefully it won't bork kubuntu, since I doubt I'll have internet in gentoo until I set it up17:12
yofelLinkmaster: wait, can you run update-grub in KUBUNTU first?17:13
yofeland then pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg?17:13
[dlp]Anyone know of a pastebin that will take images?17:13
yofel!paste | [dlp]17:13
ubottu[dlp]: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:13
Linkmasteryofel: http://pastebin.com/QbNrGKRS17:16
Linkmaster"Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sda117:17
LinkmasterFound Gentoo Base System release 2.0.2 on /dev/sda5"17:17
Linkmaster^Thats why I know its there, and thats also why I'm so confused, since on restart, grub will show the stupid windows, but not gentoo17:17
yofelhm, the os-prober section only has XP though in grub.cfg17:18
LinkmasterI see that..how do I go about adding gentoo into it?17:20
[dlp]Interesting thing is... it flips at some point while KDE is loading.17:20
yofelno idea how os-prober manager other linux systems, or /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober manages it17:20
[dlp]During splash screen.17:20
[dlp]All images go wierd.17:20
yofelLinkmaster: I would try to copy an ubuntu entry from grub.cfg to /etc/grub.d/40_custom and modify the partitions and UUID17:21
[dlp]i.e. invert17:21
[dlp]along with something else17:21
[dlp]Anyone ever seen anything like it?17:21
Linkmasteryofel: oh wonderful, I'll get to it...17:21
[dlp]Mouse input is fine (i.e. responds to where things "should" be).17:25
Linkmasterhow do I find the UUID of a partition?17:25
[dlp]All plasmoid contents appear inverted.17:26
[dlp]Linkmaster: sudo blkid -o list17:27
yofelLinkmaster: 'sudo blkid' will tell you17:29
LinkmasterYeah, I found it17:29
Linkmasteryofel: http://pastebin.com/GcYX0Q6E17:31
yofelthe kernel an initrd images are wrong, the search line probably too17:32
Linkmasteryofel: I don't know how to properly edit those..17:36
yofelme neither, though the UUID on the search line should probably match the root one, and the kernel and initrd images are the ones from gentoo17:39
yofelif you did something wrong with the gentoo kernel setup it might explain why os-prober fails to add it17:39
draikHello everyone18:00
draikI had an issue with my 10.10 upgrade to 11.04 and lost my configs.18:00
draikI can't recall how I got HDMI audio to work.18:00
draikI have HDMI through nVidia driver and would like audio from the same output. Would someone be able to tell me where I could look? My Google-fu appears to be lacking since I can't find the article that helped me last time (in 10.10)18:02
BluesKajdraik, open alsamixer and make sure the digital ctrl is turned up18:05
draikBluesKaj: When I get into alsamixer, HDMI isn't the default card. When I choose my HDMI card, S/PDIF (all 4 of them) are set to "00"18:08
BluesKaj00 means they are turned on ,18:09
BluesKajwhich player are you using ?18:09
draikWhen looking at PCM, I notice that I have 01-03, 01-07, 01-08, and 01-09. I recall that 01-07 was the one that I need.18:09
draikI'm trying Pandora and VLC18:10
BluesKajVLC works for me but I use coax digital out for my audio out , no hdmi inputs on my receiver, and I use dvi to hdmi adapter cable to my tv . VLC/tools/preferences/ audio output settings have to be matched to the dev=X settings in phonon18:13
draikBluesKaj: Perfect. Now I have VLC playing audio. Now I have to look into Pandora.18:15
tdnSometimes, after a while audio just stops working. Both in vlc, smplayer, audacious, Flash, etc. A reboot fixes this, but how can I solve the issue? Is there any way to get sound back without rebooting?18:16
tdnI use Kubuntu 11.0418:16
draiktdn: I recall having that issue back in 10.04. IIRC, there is a file you can alter to save your config after rebooting.18:17
tdndraik, the alsamixer state, maybe?18:18
draikAh, yeah. That's what my search just came up with right now.18:18
tdndraik, I was hoping to have sound back without rebooting.18:18
tdndraik, I havent changed anything in alsamixer though.18:19
BluesKajtdn, setup alsmixer sothat your audio works to your satisfaction , then  open another terminal and do,  sudo alsactl store18:19
tdnBluesKaj, but why does the sound suddenly stop working?18:21
tdnBluesKaj, also, I am not sure this is a mixer problem. For example, if I try to play a video with sound in it with mplayer, mplayer stops video playback, because it cannot find audio dev.18:22
BluesKajtdn, that command should store your alsamixer settings , and if you have pulseaudio installed that could be the culprit18:22
tdn[AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory18:22
tdnBluesKaj, I have pulseaudio. That is the default, right?18:22
tdnhttp://paste.adora.dk/P2111.txt <- list of installed '*pulse*' packages18:23
BluesKajyes, but unless you have a fancy pci soundcard , ot use pavucontrol with PA , it's mostly redundant18:23
draikBluesKaj: I think you solved my Pandora issue with that one.18:24
tdnI do not know what pavucontrol is. Appearently not installed.18:24
tdnYou think PA is redundant?18:24
draikWHen I got into KMix, I see that my Playback Streams is set to "ALSA plug-in [Pandora]: ALSA Playback"18:24
BluesKajdraik ,I haven't used pandorsa ...dunno anything about it18:24
BluesKajtdn, PA=pulseaudio ..it's just asoundserver that depends on other backends to run18:26
BluesKajit runs as a layer on top of alsa... I don't need it18:26
tdnBluesKaj, ok. Can you play sound in flash while listening to music in audacious and viewing video in mplayer, etc?18:27
BluesKajtdn, don't think so...never tried that because my setup doesn't require that18:29
BluesKaj!pavucontrol | tdn18:31
tdnBluesKaj, ok18:31
tdnBluesKaj, that does not give me any info18:31
BluesKaj!info pavucontrol | tdn18:31
ubottutdn: pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-1 (natty), package size 118 kB, installed size 948 kB18:31
tdnOh. There it was.18:32
tdnBluesKaj, ok. Thanks.18:33
BluesKajtdn, if you're streaming audio with one app , listening and watching something esle , then I guess you're using it as a network media server18:33
tdnBluesKaj, I still do not understand why my dsp device disappears: [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory18:33
tdnHow does this happen?18:33
tdnBluesKaj, I would really like to be able to play music on one computer and have sound come out of speakers from another computer.18:34
BluesKajdunno ,,,updates changing config files? ..good question18:34
tdnBu tright now I would like to just have sound back :)18:34
tdnBluesKaj, no changes to config nor updates installed.18:34
tdnBluesKaj, it just happens once in a while. Sometimes while watching a movie.18:35
tdnBluesKaj, it is extremely annoying.18:35
BluesKajtdn, intermittent problems are difficult to diagnose ...check /var/log to see what errors might be associated with the crash18:37
tdnBluesKaj, what to look for in logs?18:42
tdn2011-07-26T20:32:23.741950+02:00 malbec.vineyard.sikkerhed.org pulseaudio[8595]: alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy18:43
tdnNot sure what that means.18:48
BluesKajusually means the device is being used by another application18:51
draikI've tried a few things, but I'm not getting audio in Firefox or Pandora.19:20
altinhello, can anyone tell me why there is only xchat-gnome in the software center ?19:38
altinI wanted to install xchat but there is no package for it19:39
yofelaltin: shouldn't be, xchat is in the archive19:43
yofelalternatively open konsole and run 'sudo apt-get install xchat'19:44
altinyofel: its only xchat-gnome19:44
altinand thats crap :/19:44
altinyofel: what about qt-creator I cant find it too ?19:46
soeeyofel, hey  are yuo working on kde 4.7 for natty already ? :D19:47
yofelthat would be the qtcreator package19:47
Pici!info xchat19:47
ubottuxchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.8-3ubuntu4 (natty), package size 312 kB, installed size 840 kB19:47
stevethepirate_just to point something out - the people in #Bash are dicks19:47
stevethepirate_hello everyone :)19:47
yofelsoee: again, track https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging - scroll down for natty19:47
Picistevethepirate_: We don't care.19:47
yofel!ot | stevethepirate_19:48
ubottustevethepirate_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!19:48
stevethepirate_here is my question (btw, ya'll are the same) - I am looking in  /etc/init.d/plymouth   and I have a question about upstart-job.sh and its use of plymouth19:48
stevethepirate_INITSCRIPT="$(basename "$0")"19:49
stevethepirate_does this line store the value of the name of the script that called plymouth in INITSCRIPT?19:50
yofelsince you run initscript themselves, that would return 'basename /etc/init.d/plymouth' i.e. 'plymouth'19:51
yofelsince that's what you want to run19:51
Picistevethepirate_: yes19:51
yofelupstart-job.sh then takes care of starting the plymouth service as defined in plymouth.conf19:51
Picistevethepirate_: as you can see there are a number of scripts in /etc/init.d that are all symlinked to /lib/init/upstart-job19:51
yofeler, /etc/init/plymouth.conf19:51
stevethepirate_Is this for all files in init.d?19:53
stevethepirate_they are all symlinked?19:53
yofelfor all files that are symlinked, not all are19:53
Picistevethepirate_: Take a look yourself.19:53
yofells -la /etc/init.d/  will tell you19:53
stevethepirate_o i finally understand that19:55
stevethepirate_thank you so much19:55
CoJaBoCan the sleep option be removed from the menu (or disabled entirely)? (Ideally, it should work, but I doubt it'd be easy... hibernate does work, which is a good enough workaround)19:56
DrDocHappyStill wet behind the ears... Wow! This is amazing!20:42
pawleeqwhenever I play video file it stucks after few seconds and loops last few milliseconds of audio track. The computer gets completely stuck si I have to restart it. What the hell is wrong?20:54
OerHekspawleeq, what player are you using, and did you try a different one ?20:56
pawleeqOerHeks: I have tried sofar kplayer, mplayer, smplayer, dragon and vlc20:58
OerHekspawleeq, and does this occur with all your video ?21:01
pawleeqOerHeks: well, i haven't tried all of them, but all the files i tried did this21:02
draikDoes anyone here have HDMI audio working on Kubuntu 11.04? I've tried various things and I can't get audio to work from firefox or flash/Pandora.21:04
CoJaBoCan the sleep option be removed from the menu (or disabled entirely)? (Ideally, it should work, but I doubt it'd be easy... hibernate does work, which is a good enough workaround)21:11
CoJaBodraik:  does it work in everything else?21:12
genii-aroundCoJaBo: in /etc/acpi the scripts which do stuff like sleep, hibernate, and so on are. A dirty but fast thing would be to rename sleep.sh to something like sleep.sh.old and symlink a new sleep.sh to hibernate.sh21:15
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CoJaBogenii-around:  ah, thanks- should be good enough, I'm used to clicking sleep, but that crashes this pc lol21:16
draikCoJaBo: VLC21:19
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CoJaBodraik:  it works or doesn't in vlc?21:22
draikCoJaBo: It does work in VLC21:26
Night-Hacksi installed kubuntu-desktop on my 10.0421:26
draikCoJaBo: It is not working with Firefox or Pandora21:26
Night-Hackshow can i delete it completely21:26
draikNight-Hacks: What do you want instead of kubuntu-desktop?21:26
Night-Hacksdraik: im in Gnome21:27
Night-Hacksjust tested Kubuntu21:27
Night-Hacksi really hated it !21:27
CoJaBodraik: is the cable inserted and input selected when the first Flash control is loaded? Flash, once loaded, won't change audio outputs until the browser is exited.21:27
draikAh. sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop   that will remove the meta package, but not what was installed.21:28
draikCoJaBo: Not sure I follow. The HDMI cable works as I'm using IRC on it.21:28
Night-Hacksdraik: what about lot's of software that package installed like K* !!!21:29
CoJaBodraik:  is it always plugged in?21:29
draikCoJaBo: Yes. I use dual-monitor and it is my 2nd display.21:30
draikNight-Hacks: Sure, but what about libraries and such? Best to see if you still have what was previously installed and go from there.21:30
Night-Hacks draik: yeah im deleting everything starts with K in Synaptic !!!21:31
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome21:32
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »21:36
draikInteresting. I remember when I tried to get PureKDE, I did the removal of ubuntu-desktop, but it only removed the meta package, not everything that came with it.21:37
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DrDocHappy_I just tried removing ubuntu and got aptitude not found21:42
DrDocHappy_I think I have bigger issues, several files missing21:43
DrDocHappy_Doesnt want to properly uipdate, rebooting now21:43
yofelDrDocHappy_: aptitude isn't installed by default, use apt-get21:45
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draikCoJaBo: Have you had the issue with HDMI audio not working on FF or Pandora?21:49
m_tadeuhi...is there an app that we can write notes on a timeline?21:50
draikSorry, read your question wrong. Disregard.21:50
CoJaBodraik: unfortunately, flash tends not to play well with "non-default" configurations. I couldn't get it working with a VPN, compulsory proxy, or USB headphones. in all cases, it'd use the default NIC or audio device.21:53
draikm_tadeu: EtherPad, maybe? http://code.google.com/p/etherpad/21:54
draikCoJaBo: I may have other issues, too. Highlighting text won't copy, either.21:55
CoJaBodraik:  in flash?22:02
draikCoJaBo: Such as YouTube videos, etc.22:02
CoJaBodraik:  of course. its Flash. it doesn't obey os native features or settings, which is why it sucks :P22:03
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CoJaBoyou have to copy the Windows way, right click and copy22:04
CoJaBoor ctrl c if the flesh control hasn't disabled that22:04
m_tadeudraik: thanx22:05
draikm_tadeu: Did that help you?22:06
draikCoJaBo: I liked the copy/paste method with just the mouse.22:06
draikWell, copying via highlight22:06
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m_tadeudraik: it didn't...but then I figured out how to do it in kontact...looks ugly for what I want, but will do the job22:06
CoJaBodraik:  yeh, you can't configure flash the way you like. strange then that Apple didn't get along with them, song the same thing xD22:08
CoJaBosong = doing22:08
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waspycan anyone help me with rebuilding hardware raid? i have a box given to me that has raid5 and 1 disk failed22:14
KELVORG. . .23:00
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bobweaverhi there where in  the world is the default color scheme located in kubuntu ?23:21
bobweavernot under /usr/share/kde4/apps/color-scheme23:23
claydohbobweaver: mine are there, /usr/share/kde4/apps/color-schemes/ the default is Oxygen23:30
bobweaverI deleted all but one (obsiden coast)  and want to now make that defult23:32
bobweaverbut when i go to system settings default is still set to oxygen23:33
bobweaverif I alter will it save under ~/.config ?23:34
bobweaveror usr/share/where/ever23:34
bobweaverthere is one way that I can find out :>)23:34
claydohwhy not leave it set to obsidian and not worry about a default?23:34
bobweaverwhen making a back up using remastersys I want the defult to be obsiden coast23:35
claydohlook in parts of kubuntu-default-settings23:36
bobweaverso when I give to family for gift it will be my font and color scheme and window and so on23:36
* bobweaver runs of to konsol 23:37
bobweaverthere she is captian23:38
bobweavera hoy mateie23:38
* bobweaver is real happy 23:38
bobweaverscalpel doctor I am going in. Wait I did not delete any files . maybe just use stethoscope :>)23:42
Snooffyhi guys, how to check filesystem when the system is mounted?23:47
tsimpsonyou generally don't check it while it's mounted23:49
draikSorry, thought that was in regards to the fs type, not fsck.23:49
draikCoJaBo: So... I seem to have the copy/paste function on my mouse if I use the mousewheel clicker (aka 3rd button)23:53

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