[01:15] <Kaleidoscope> I need help partitioning :)
[01:49] <negaduck> Is there a way to logout of a KIO?
[02:01] <chaitu> Greetings All. Am trying to change my desktop theme and when I choose a new theme, I dont get a option to apply it. Can someone help me please?
[03:02] <negaduck> chaitu: Sorry how are you changing the theme?
[03:03] <chaitu> system settings
[03:03] <chaitu> system settings -> advanced tab ->desktop theme details
[03:04] <negaduck> Right ok what did you change?
[03:05] <negaduck> chaitu: Just clicked on one of the options at the top or you went into more detail ?
[03:06] <chaitu> once i click on desktop theme details, it gives me new window which shows the current theme
[03:06] <chaitu> then I click on drop down box and try changing it
[03:06] <chaitu> it doesnt change anything
[03:07] <negaduck> chaitu: Ah what version of KDE are you using?
[03:07] <chaitu> one sec nega
[03:07] <chaitu> negaduck, *
[03:07] <chaitu> 4.3.5
[03:07] <negaduck> oh
[03:07] <negaduck> oh my :)
[03:08] <chaitu> lol i know..pretty old
[03:08] <negaduck> Ok I'm using KDE 4.7 so I wouldn't be able to confirm or deny that
[03:08] <negaduck> are you on LTS?
[03:08] <chaitu> umnn sorry..whats lts?
[03:09] <chaitu> let me look up
[03:09] <chaitu> I know these silly questions might be irritating
[03:10] <chaitu> oh long term support?
[03:12] <chaitu> kde.org does not show any
[03:12] <chaitu> ah wb lol..thought you were around
[03:13] <chaitu> I don't see anything for 4.3.5 lts on kde.org..
[03:13] <negaduck> !LTS
[03:13] <negaduck> DNS died
[03:14] <chaitu> yeah..I dont think its supported.
[03:14] <chaitu> will download latest version of this distro and install it I guess
[03:15] <chaitu> negaduck: one more question please. what do you do for your fonts on linux? I mean, browsing is not the same as on windows...is there any distro which has nice fonts in linux too? does kubuntu have any fix?
[03:15] <negaduck> !fonts
[03:16] <negaduck> chaitu: Might help if you have a /home partition for the jump
[03:16] <chaitu> wow looks like you guys have seen lot of newbies. nice thanks a ton
[03:16] <chaitu> I have home../home
[03:18] <negaduck> chaitu: is it on it's own partition?
[03:18] <chaitu> negaduck: once you implement whats written in that file, will fonts on browsers and websites look like windows?
[03:18] <chaitu> yes negaduck
[03:18] <chaitu> 17 gb of home
[03:19] <negaduck> chaitu: Wonderful :)
[03:19] <negaduck>  not so much a newbie :)
[03:20] <chaitu> lol I played with this for sometime..like installing awn and those desktop effects apps..other than that..not much
[03:21] <negaduck> Neat how have you liked the playground so far?
[03:22] <chaitu> I like it...its just that my browsing experience is not up to the mark..like how it looks on linux..
[03:22] <negaduck> chaitu: try chromium when you upgrade. It pulls in it's own fonts and so on
[03:22] <negaduck> but people like tweaking their own fonts alot
[03:22] <chaitu> after trying all that apps about desktop effects, I dont think I want them once I download the latest version of kbuntu..am good with default
[03:23] <chaitu> i see
[03:25] <chaitu> negaduck: if i can ask you one more question, I was suggested that we dont need /home partition and one large / will do just fine. is that true? I mean..every linux book has /home while installing that I read
[03:26] <rww> chaitu: I don't have a separate /home and have never regretted this, so...
[03:27] <chaitu> I see..but wouldnt your / folder has somany folders and confuse you with folders you create? like /pics, /music and so on?
[03:28] <chaitu> have* heh
[03:28] <negaduck> chaitu: You don't need it but I don't see a downside to having one
[03:29] <negaduck> chaitu: If you have a single / partition you will still have a /home directory
[03:29] <rww> chaitu: It looks the same either way. The difference with a separate /home is that /home goes to a different partition underneath. Pictures still go in /home/username/Pictures if there isn't a separate /home partition...
[03:29] <negaduck> it looks the same. Just if you format you lose all the data in your /home as well
[03:29] <rww> I think negaduck explained that better ;)
[03:29] <chaitu> ooh..I get it. cool
[03:30] <chaitu> and 10 gb for / is good enough, right?
[03:32] <negaduck> Should be
[03:32] <negaduck> I've never had mine that large and I've never run out of space
[03:32] <negaduck> and I install a ridiculous amount of rubbish
[03:32] <chaitu> I have mine as 5 now but it says no space to upgrade to the latest version
[03:33] <chaitu> 78% used..am not sure if all those desktop effect progs I installed did not take much space..
[03:39] <chaitu> aight guys. I will download and install the latest version and come back.
[03:40] <chaitu> Thanks a bunch for your help. You guys really help newbies like me try things out.
[03:40] <chaitu> cheers
[04:02] <negaduck> Cheers!
[04:04] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings, all.
[04:05] <negaduck> Hi
[04:06] <preecher> hi
[04:09] <Linkmaster> Hey
[04:17] <what_if> just did some updates... system is running slooowww... like something is hogging the cpu... but nothing is. any ideas?
[04:20] <negaduck> what_if: hoggin the RAM?
[04:21] <what_if> negaduck: 476mb used, 4gb installed 0mb swap usage
[04:28] <negaduck> what_if: turn off desktop effects?
[04:43] <what_if> found the issue... the keyboard disconnected (hub disconnect) about 12 times very rapidly then goat a new address on every reconnection. Xorg no likey. off to restart X brb
[05:10] <Kaleidoscope> Anyone know why KPackageKit is DLing at 10 KBPS?
[05:20] <LINKSWORD2> Kaleidoscope: KPackageKit is most often used for system updates...
[05:21] <LINKSWORD2> Although, it does also manage extra packages, when you request them to be downloaded.
[05:22] <ubuntu____> hello
[05:22] <ubuntu____> can anyone help me??
[05:23] <ubuntu____> grub does not detect my kubuntu partition..
[05:23] <ubuntu____> i now using live cd
[05:23] <LINKSWORD2> Are you using GRUB, or the newer GRUB2?
[05:24] <LINKSWORD2> Also, is your live cd Kubuntu, and if so, please check the version.
[05:24] <ubuntu____> i dont know.. how to know it?
[05:24] <ubuntu____> kubuntu 11.04
[05:25] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not very familiar with any of the GRUB partition selectors.
[05:27] <ubuntu____> my grub version is: (GRUB) 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3
[05:28] <LINKSWORD2> I can do a fair bit in Kubuntu, but with GRUB, I'd be better off not guessing...
[05:29] <LINKSWORD2> Sorry, I have to leave.
[05:29] <ubuntu____> does anyone else can help me?
[05:33] <Kaleidoscope> Both KPackageKit and Apt-get are going extremely slow
[06:43] <ussher__> im getting system freeze when i move the mouse quickly between screens.  I suspect its something to do with the nvidia drivers, how would i locate the exact source?  is there any system logs anywhere that would show the freeze?
[06:43] <ussher__> on kubuntu 10.04
[07:20] <noaXess> where to setup/enable the mouse paste command with both mouse buttons? single click to copy, combined left/right click to paste?
[08:11] <iDanielSan> Hi, can someone help me configure Facebook chat on Kopete?
[08:17] <RbY90> I want to time the events that take place during kde launch sequence, starting from kdeinit application to konquerer (any program), is there any easy way to achieve it ????
[08:20] <iDanielSan> I want to add my Facebook Chat to Kopete. Already tried wit jabber acces -> not working at all
[08:20] <iDanielSan> any ideas?
[08:20] <iDanielSan> @RbY90 How about a shell script?
[08:22] <RbY90> iDanielSan : wouldnt I have to modify each any everyscript to find the difference of time spent ???
[08:26] <S4L> Question: Using Natty, how can I clear the DNS cache? Google just gives me old answers from 3 years ago
[09:12] <pancram> hola a todos !!!
[09:50] <gigenieks> hi guys
[09:51] <gigenieks> if I want to install Windows AFTER Kubuntu
[09:51] <gigenieks> and i know that Kubuntu is on
[09:51] <gigenieks> sdc5
[09:51] <gigenieks> then --->
[09:52] <gigenieks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[09:52] <gigenieks> 5. step:
[09:52] <gigenieks> "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX"
[09:52] <gigenieks> i should put sda OR sdc??
[09:57] <gigenieks> ...
[10:00] <yofel> gigenieks: usually you put grub into the MBR of the device that's used as boot disk in BIOS
[10:00] <yofel> usually sda
[10:00] <yofel> or put it on sdc and mark that as boot disk in BIOS
[10:01] <yofel> I personally am happier with grub and the windows boot manager being on 2 different disks
[10:01] <yofel> less error-prone
[10:01] <gigenieks> Im confused..
[10:01] <gigenieks> ok, so -
[10:02] <gigenieks> I found Kubuntu partion
[10:02] <gigenieks> by
[10:02] <gigenieks> sudo fdisk -l
[10:02] <gigenieks> then I mount it by:
[10:02] <jussi> !enter | gigenieks
[10:02] <gigenieks> sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
[10:03] <gigenieks> sdXY would be sdc5
[10:03] <gigenieks> for me now
[10:03] <gigenieks> and last I do
[10:03] <gigenieks> sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX
[10:03] <gigenieks> sdX = whatever I choose
[10:03] <gigenieks> ?
[10:05] <yofel> well, you can use /dev/sdc - but then make sure you use  that disk as first boot disk in your BIOS boot order
[10:06] <gigenieks> I dont get it I have both Kubuntu and Windows on 1 hdd
[10:06] <gigenieks> so i need to set that hdd
[10:06] <gigenieks> in bios first
[10:06] <gigenieks> anyway!
[10:07] <gigenieks> right?
[10:09] <Shirakawasuna> gigenieks: you'll find out soon enough with guess and check which one is right :).  You can edit grub dynamically by hitting 'e' when grub loads, if you fail and need to change sda to sdc
[10:10] <Shirakawasuna> gigenieks: the basic idea is that you install windows, then boot to a linux live CD, then chroot and grub install.  Follow a good guide for doing the chroot and grub install.  Gentoo and archlinux have excellent docs on this, though they may not apply to grub2.
[10:10] <gigenieks> I read this:
[10:10] <gigenieks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[10:10] <gigenieks> under
[10:10] <gigenieks> Copy LiveCD Files
[10:10] <gigenieks> is instructions
[10:11] <FloodBotK2> gigenieks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:11] <gigenieks> I just dont get that last line
[10:11] <gigenieks> I have 3 HDD
[10:11] <gigenieks> sda, sdb sdc (sdc has Windows (who doesnt work now) and Kubuntu)
[10:12] <gigenieks> in bios 1st hdd is sdc
[10:13] <gigenieks> here is my setup:
[10:13] <gigenieks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/652319/
[10:23] <tortue> bonjour
[12:10] <briandw1969> hello
[12:11] <briandw1969> anyone here?
[12:11] <lolcat> I am here
[12:11] <briandw1969> im having probs with Java
[12:11] <[dlp]> Can KDE handle multiple logins as the same user?
[12:11] <lolcat> Anyways, I am scrolling 35ish active channels so I migth not see what you write
[12:12] <[dlp]> e.g. via XDMCP, VNC, etc.
[12:12] <lolcat> [dlp]: Can moose shit in the forrest?
[12:12] <lolcat> briandw1969: Marvelous. Try to ask a quesition maybe?
[12:12] <[dlp]> Or will it cause issues?
[12:12] <bazhang> lolcat, watch the language
[12:13] <briandw1969> my browsers are not showing Java enabled
[12:13] <[dlp]> There were a few problems doing this under KDE 3.
[12:13]  * yofel can confirm that loggin in with 2 users from kdm at the same time will work, but has no idea about XDMCP or VNC
[12:13] <lolcat> [dlp]: sorry, can moose defececate in the forrest?
[12:13] <[dlp]> lol
[12:13] <lolcat> bazhang: Writing the correct terms are complicated
[12:13] <yofel> !java | briandw1969
[12:13] <[dlp]> "Single instance" programs don't like it, obviously.
[12:14] <lolcat> [dlp]: chroot it!
[12:15] <[dlp]> Could do that.
[12:16] <lolcat> I learn chroot yesterday
[12:16] <lolcat> now I have chrooted fifteen terminals
[12:16] <[dlp]> That would split up configurations tho. I might as well just log in as a different user.
[12:16] <lolcat> 3 of wich with x
[12:16] <[dlp]> XDMCP would be KDM bas3ed.
[12:16] <[dlp]> It's actually VNC I'm interested in.
[12:27] <altin> hello there, I wanted to ask: do you suggest that I install a 64bit kubuntu on my pc ? I mean is it stable enough..
[12:27] <altin> and whats the compatibility of its programs
[12:28] <altin> are there Nvidia drivers and other stuff for 64bit ?
[12:29] <yofel> there are, I'm running 64bit here and it works perfectly fine for me
[12:30] <altin> yofel: any problems of any kind with any software ?
[12:30] <yofel> You might see issues with flash, as that's the 32bit plugin wrapped in nspluginwrapper to run on 64bit. But usually even that works fine
[12:31] <altin> aha, but mostly Im afraid I dont have drivers for Nvidia GeForce 9500 GT ?
[12:31] <altin> how can i look for that ?
[12:31] <altin> yofel:
[12:31] <briandw1969> still cant get Java
[12:31] <yofel> The drivers in the repository will work for that card
[12:32] <yofel> briandw1969: what did you try to install? IIRC you could try to install kubuntu-restricted-extras, not sure
[12:33] <briandw1969> i tried the command lines from  http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc
[12:35] <briandw1969> but none of the commands did anything
[12:36] <yofel> briandw1969: hm, if you don't need sun, you can try to install icedtea-plugin, which should give you the java web plugin
[12:36] <briandw1969> in package installer?
[12:36] <yofel> yes
[12:39] <briandw1969> installed icedtea but still no java on my browsers
[12:41] <yofel> briandw1969: which browser?
[12:41] <briandw1969> rekonq,ff so far
[12:42] <yofel> hm, if you open konsole and run 'ls -lha /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so' (without the quotes) what do you get?
[12:43] <briandw1969> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 57 2011-07-26 07:37 /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so
[12:43] <yofel> did you restart your browser?
[12:44] <briandw1969> ahhhhhhhhhh
[12:45] <briandw1969> there it is
[12:45] <yofel> ^^
[12:46] <briandw1969> thanx
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:40] <^zenhobb-it> hi
[13:41] <^zenhobb-it> Can you help me unistalling kubuntu 8.04 please?
[13:41] <fede93g_> Ciao!
[13:41] <tsimpson> ^zenhobb-it: you just install something else over it
[13:43] <fede93g_> I need help: How can I install SecondLife? I have downloaded the tar.bz2 from the official site, then i exctracted it, then I ran the install.sh file... But I cannot find the program in the "Start" menu...
[13:43] <fede93g_> I found it, but it does not work
[13:48] <fede93g_> ?
[13:50] <fede93g_> Parlate italiano?
[13:50] <^zenhobb-it> How can I disable kubuntu to be set as default Os at the boot, and restoring ubuntu instead?
[13:50] <^zenhobb-it> io sì
[13:51] <fede93g_> Ma il canale è inglese?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> !it |fede93g_
[13:52] <fede93g_> To set the default OS I used startupmanager
[13:54] <BluesKaj> zegenie, if they are on separate partitions then you have to edit default grub , if not , choose ubuntu/gnome in the menu at login
[14:21] <^zenhobb-it> How can I disable kubuntu as default Os at the boot, and restore ubuntu instead?
[14:22] <ubuntu4shane> ok, this is very frustrating, I rebooted, after 5 or 6 or 7 days running, and my keyboard isn't loaded?? or something, I can't type, and mouse isn't activated either.  IT isn't hardware because keyboard works in grub menu, I tried booting older kernel, recovery nothing works
[14:23] <ubuntu4shane> I can't ctrl-alt-f2,3,4 or nothing, because keyboard seems to have no power
[14:24] <ubuntu4shane> I have no alternate OS installed, oddly enough, or at least not in my grup  config, how can I edit the grub boot loader to only load to init3?
[14:25] <yofel> ubuntu4shane: not really, as RL3 does nothing special, but recovery mode might work
[14:25] <yofel> though I'm not sure how that would happen, except a oneiric bug that was already fixed
[14:26] <ubuntu4shane> yofel: recovery didn't work for me
[14:26] <ubuntu4shane> if I could get to a cli I could at least troubleshoot, recover, but without that, I'm sunk
[14:27] <yofel> not sure then, maybe try to kill X with alt+printscr+k and try to switch to tty then
[14:27] <ubuntu4shane> make matters worse, I don't think I have an Ubuntu disk laying around, not recent one anyway
[14:27] <yofel> or use init=/bin/bash on the kernel command line skipping the whole system iniit
[14:27] <ubuntu4shane> ooh, that sounds like a better solution, let me try the first, one second, computer is in the other room
[14:29] <ubuntu4shane> yofel: alt-printscr+k did the trick, blinked the screen; keyboard, and mouse are working, odd
[14:30]  * yofel blames X then
[14:30] <yofel> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[14:33] <shane2peru1> yofel: over here. :)  want me to pastebin that?
[14:33] <yofel> sure, I can take a look
[14:34] <shane2peru1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/652447/
[14:35] <shane2peru1> I'm up-to-date, I updated this AM and there were two small updates, but nothing great
[14:36] <shane2peru1> [    24.295] (II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/server-B20D7FC79C7F597315E3E501AEF10E0D866E8E92.xkm
[14:36] <shane2peru1> that seems odd
[14:37] <shane2peru1> oh, I misread that as refuse, no reuse
[14:37] <yofel> hm
[14:37] <yofel> [    84.600] (EE) HID 0566:3107: failed to initialize for relative axes.
[14:38] <yofel> is the only error I see
[14:38] <shane2peru1> let me reboot and see if it does it again, brb
[14:42] <shane2peru1> yofel, same problem
[14:43] <shane2peru1> except pressing ctrl-pnt-screen-k was slow to work this time, I pressed it a few times before it worked, was it ctrl? or alt?
[14:43] <yofel> any useless settings in xorg.conf?
[14:43] <yofel> alt
[14:43] <shane2peru1> yofel: problem
[14:43] <shane2peru1> probly
[14:43] <shane2peru1> probably
[14:43] <shane2peru1> I will get it right
[14:43] <FloodBotK2> shane2peru1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:44] <shane2peru1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/652459/
[14:44] <shane2peru1> that is my xorg
[14:45] <shane2peru1> yofel: I have hated xorg.conf since the begining of time, it is always a hassel for me.  I think I let nvidia set that up
[14:45] <yofel> shane2peru1: try mine http://paste.kde.org/101677/ (remove that brightness option)
[14:47] <shane2peru1> yofel: with that I lose my dual screen setup? correct?
[14:47] <yofel> probably, *that* I now 0 about
[14:47] <yofel> so save yours first
[14:48] <shane2peru1> brb
[14:56] <shane2peru1> ok, could be a bad combination of bad recharable batteries in my wireless logitech trackball???
[14:56] <shane2peru1> now it works
[14:56] <shane2peru1> there is definitely something very strange going on
[14:56] <shane2peru1> that xorg.conf didn't help
[14:57] <shane2peru1> and I figured out that, I have to wait about 30 seconds before pressing alt-pntscreen-k works
[14:57] <shane2peru1> like it is lagging in loading?
[14:57] <shane2peru1> yofel: ^^^   any other ideas??
[14:58] <yofel> I've seen lags from X before, no idea
[14:59] <shane2peru1> how do I reset X without rebooting?  sudo service kdm restart?
[14:59] <shane2peru1> would that reload xorg.conf
[15:01] <yofel> S3Indiana: restarting kdm should be fine
[15:01] <yofel> er, shane2peru1 ^^
[15:01] <shane2peru1> reloading X was instant login, and got my dual screen back. :)  perhaps X isn't loading as fast as kubuntu is??
[15:01] <shane2peru1> got it. :)
[15:02] <shane2peru1> guess I just won't reboot for another 7-10 days. :)
[15:02] <shane2peru1> yofel: thanks for the help, greatly appreciated!!!
[15:03] <yofel> sure, you're welcome
[15:33] <Guest96156> hi
[15:33] <Guest96156> can somebody help me with a nvidia related problem?
[15:34] <Guest96156> i unistalled nvidia current and lost libgl.so and mplayer wont work
[15:34] <Guest96156> how can i get back libgl.so
[15:34] <Guest96156> anybody?
[15:36] <yellowgto> Hey guys
[15:36] <yellowgto> Having troub;e
[15:36] <yellowgto> :-(
[15:37] <yellowgto> I have no sound in KDE when switching from gnome
[15:56] <yellowgto> Hey guys
[16:19] <krise> hi me again
[16:20] <krise> can anybody help me to get right klick working on my laptop HP probook 4520s
[16:22] <krise> i bet here is some good people
[16:22] <krise> im bit slow do
[16:40] <krise>  can anybody help me to get right klick working on my laptop HP probook 4520s
[16:58] <jan_> hi
[16:59] <jan_> whats up?
[16:59] <Linkmaster> jan_: if you have a question, go ahead and ask. Otherwise, join #kubuntu-offtopic so that it doesn't clog up the main support channel
[17:00] <jan_> ok
[17:00] <jan_> thanks
[17:04] <Linkmaster> I've been trying to monkey around with GRUB to make it show a booting option for my newly created Gentoo installation[made in a chroot environment], though I didn't install GRUB using the gentoo. I run 'update-grub' and it 'sees' the gentoo installation, but when I reboot, I don't have an option to boot into it.
[17:06] <yofel> Linkmaster: are you sure you updated the grub.cfg of the grub installation that you boot with?
[17:07] <Linkmaster> yofel:  I believe so..I don't really play with grub too much, so I'm not exactly sure
[17:08] <ib-mobile_> something is wrong with configuring printers on my system.  When I try to add a printer, I'm only given they type other and it doesn't seem to do anything.  I've had printing working on this machine before so I'm not sure what happened.  I'm trying to setup a remote cups printer
[17:09] <yofel> Linkmaster: check if it's listed in grub.cfg, if it is then you should see it on boot
[17:09] <genii-around> Linkmaster: I suppose it also might matter where you chrooted to and did the install... like, a subdir in some partition, or the root of a partition, etc
[17:09] <ib-mobile_> I'm thinking reinstalling the print configuration tool may be the answer, but I'm not sure what package that would be
[17:10] <Linkmaster> genii-around: I know I was chrooted in the correct place, I had an empty partition, and mounted it via  /mnt/gentoo  and I did all my work from  /mnt/gentoo
[17:10] <Linkmaster> yofel: this is my partition setup: http://pastebin.com/zmBUs97f
[17:11] <yofel> ok, but your grub installation with have it's prefix set to /boot from ubuntu, so you need to update the grub.cfg *there*
[17:11] <Linkmaster> I have an unfinished windows on sda1, sda5 is gentoo, sda6 is  /  for kubuntu, sda7 is  /home  for kubuntu, and sda8 is my swap
[17:12] <yofel> the grub setup in gentoo will probably be ignored unless you run grub-install from there
[17:12] <dlp> I am having some seriously funky issues with KDE and XDMCP.
[17:12] <Linkmaster> alright...let me mount gentoo, chroot in there, and install grub from there. Hopefully it won't bork kubuntu, since I doubt I'll have internet in gentoo until I set it up
[17:13] <yofel> Linkmaster: wait, can you run update-grub in KUBUNTU first?
[17:13] <yofel> and then pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[17:13] <[dlp]> Anyone know of a pastebin that will take images?
[17:13] <Linkmaster> sure
[17:13] <yofel> !paste | [dlp]
[17:16] <Linkmaster> yofel: http://pastebin.com/QbNrGKRS
[17:17] <Linkmaster> "Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sda1
[17:17] <Linkmaster> Found Gentoo Base System release 2.0.2 on /dev/sda5"
[17:17] <Linkmaster> ^Thats why I know its there, and thats also why I'm so confused, since on restart, grub will show the stupid windows, but not gentoo
[17:18] <yofel> hm, the os-prober section only has XP though in grub.cfg
[17:19] <[dlp]> http://imagebin.org/164983
[17:20] <Linkmaster> I see that..how do I go about adding gentoo into it?
[17:20] <[dlp]> Interesting thing is... it flips at some point while KDE is loading.
[17:20] <yofel> no idea how os-prober manager other linux systems, or /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober manages it
[17:20] <[dlp]> During splash screen.
[17:20] <[dlp]> All images go wierd.
[17:21] <yofel> Linkmaster: I would try to copy an ubuntu entry from grub.cfg to /etc/grub.d/40_custom and modify the partitions and UUID
[17:21] <[dlp]> i.e. invert
[17:21] <[dlp]> along with something else
[17:21] <[dlp]> Anyone ever seen anything like it?
[17:21] <Linkmaster> yofel: oh wonderful, I'll get to it...
[17:25] <[dlp]> Mouse input is fine (i.e. responds to where things "should" be).
[17:25] <Linkmaster> how do I find the UUID of a partition?
[17:26] <[dlp]> All plasmoid contents appear inverted.
[17:27] <[dlp]> Linkmaster: sudo blkid -o list
[17:29] <yofel> Linkmaster: 'sudo blkid' will tell you
[17:29] <Linkmaster> Yeah, I found it
[17:31] <Linkmaster> yofel: http://pastebin.com/GcYX0Q6E
[17:32] <yofel> the kernel an initrd images are wrong, the search line probably too
[17:36] <Linkmaster> yofel: I don't know how to properly edit those..
[17:39] <yofel> me neither, though the UUID on the search line should probably match the root one, and the kernel and initrd images are the ones from gentoo
[17:39] <yofel> if you did something wrong with the gentoo kernel setup it might explain why os-prober fails to add it
[18:00] <draik> Hello everyone
[18:00] <draik> I had an issue with my 10.10 upgrade to 11.04 and lost my configs.
[18:00] <draik> I can't recall how I got HDMI audio to work.
[18:02] <draik> I have HDMI through nVidia driver and would like audio from the same output. Would someone be able to tell me where I could look? My Google-fu appears to be lacking since I can't find the article that helped me last time (in 10.10)
[18:04] <draik> !hdmi
[18:05] <BluesKaj> draik, open alsamixer and make sure the digital ctrl is turned up
[18:08] <draik> BluesKaj: When I get into alsamixer, HDMI isn't the default card. When I choose my HDMI card, S/PDIF (all 4 of them) are set to "00"
[18:09] <BluesKaj> 00 means they are turned on ,
[18:09] <BluesKaj> which player are you using ?
[18:09] <draik> When looking at PCM, I notice that I have 01-03, 01-07, 01-08, and 01-09. I recall that 01-07 was the one that I need.
[18:10] <draik> I'm trying Pandora and VLC
[18:13] <BluesKaj> VLC works for me but I use coax digital out for my audio out , no hdmi inputs on my receiver, and I use dvi to hdmi adapter cable to my tv . VLC/tools/preferences/ audio output settings have to be matched to the dev=X settings in phonon
[18:15] <draik> BluesKaj: Perfect. Now I have VLC playing audio. Now I have to look into Pandora.
[18:16] <tdn> Sometimes, after a while audio just stops working. Both in vlc, smplayer, audacious, Flash, etc. A reboot fixes this, but how can I solve the issue? Is there any way to get sound back without rebooting?
[18:16] <tdn> I use Kubuntu 11.04
[18:17] <draik> tdn: I recall having that issue back in 10.04. IIRC, there is a file you can alter to save your config after rebooting.
[18:18] <tdn> draik, the alsamixer state, maybe?
[18:18] <draik> Ah, yeah. That's what my search just came up with right now.
[18:18] <tdn> draik, I was hoping to have sound back without rebooting.
[18:19] <tdn> draik, I havent changed anything in alsamixer though.
[18:19] <BluesKaj> tdn, setup alsmixer sothat your audio works to your satisfaction , then  open another terminal and do,  sudo alsactl store
[18:21] <tdn> BluesKaj, but why does the sound suddenly stop working?
[18:22] <tdn> BluesKaj, also, I am not sure this is a mixer problem. For example, if I try to play a video with sound in it with mplayer, mplayer stops video playback, because it cannot find audio dev.
[18:22] <BluesKaj> tdn, that command should store your alsamixer settings , and if you have pulseaudio installed that could be the culprit
[18:22] <tdn> [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[18:22] <tdn> BluesKaj, I have pulseaudio. That is the default, right?
[18:23] <tdn> http://paste.adora.dk/P2111.txt <- list of installed '*pulse*' packages
[18:23] <BluesKaj> yes, but unless you have a fancy pci soundcard , ot use pavucontrol with PA , it's mostly redundant
[18:23] <BluesKaj> ot=or
[18:24] <draik> BluesKaj: I think you solved my Pandora issue with that one.
[18:24] <tdn> I do not know what pavucontrol is. Appearently not installed.
[18:24] <tdn> You think PA is redundant?
[18:24] <draik> WHen I got into KMix, I see that my Playback Streams is set to "ALSA plug-in [Pandora]: ALSA Playback"
[18:24] <BluesKaj> draik ,I haven't used pandorsa ...dunno anything about it
[18:24] <BluesKaj> pandora
[18:26] <BluesKaj> tdn, PA=pulseaudio ..it's just asoundserver that depends on other backends to run
[18:26] <BluesKaj> it runs as a layer on top of alsa... I don't need it
[18:27] <tdn> BluesKaj, ok. Can you play sound in flash while listening to music in audacious and viewing video in mplayer, etc?
[18:29] <BluesKaj> tdn, don't think so...never tried that because my setup doesn't require that
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !pavucontrol | tdn
[18:31] <tdn> BluesKaj, ok
[18:31] <tdn> BluesKaj, that does not give me any info
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !info pavucontrol | tdn
[18:31] <tdn> Nothing
[18:32] <tdn> Oh. There it was.
[18:33] <tdn> BluesKaj, ok. Thanks.
[18:33] <BluesKaj> tdn, if you're streaming audio with one app , listening and watching something esle , then I guess you're using it as a network media server
[18:33] <tdn> BluesKaj, I still do not understand why my dsp device disappears: [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[18:33] <tdn> How does this happen?
[18:34] <tdn> BluesKaj, I would really like to be able to play music on one computer and have sound come out of speakers from another computer.
[18:34] <BluesKaj> dunno ,,,updates changing config files? ..good question
[18:34] <tdn> Bu tright now I would like to just have sound back :)
[18:34] <tdn> BluesKaj, no changes to config nor updates installed.
[18:35] <tdn> BluesKaj, it just happens once in a while. Sometimes while watching a movie.
[18:35] <tdn> BluesKaj, it is extremely annoying.
[18:37] <BluesKaj> tdn, intermittent problems are difficult to diagnose ...check /var/log to see what errors might be associated with the crash
[18:42] <tdn> BluesKaj, what to look for in logs?
[18:43] <tdn> 2011-07-26T20:32:23.741950+02:00 malbec.vineyard.sikkerhed.org pulseaudio[8595]: alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy
[18:48] <tdn> Not sure what that means.
[18:51] <BluesKaj> usually means the device is being used by another application
[19:20] <draik> I've tried a few things, but I'm not getting audio in Firefox or Pandora.
[19:38] <altin> hello, can anyone tell me why there is only xchat-gnome in the software center ?
[19:39] <altin> I wanted to install xchat but there is no package for it
[19:43] <yofel> altin: shouldn't be, xchat is in the archive
[19:44] <yofel> alternatively open konsole and run 'sudo apt-get install xchat'
[19:44] <altin> yofel: its only xchat-gnome
[19:44] <altin> and thats crap :/
[19:44] <yofel> agreed
[19:46] <altin> yofel: what about qt-creator I cant find it too ?
[19:47] <soee> yofel, hey  are yuo working on kde 4.7 for natty already ? :D
[19:47] <yofel> that would be the qtcreator package
[19:47] <Pici> !info xchat
[19:47] <stevethepirate_> just to point something out - the people in #Bash are dicks
[19:47] <stevethepirate_> hello everyone :)
[19:47] <yofel> soee: again, track https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging - scroll down for natty
[19:47] <Pici> stevethepirate_: We don't care.
[19:48] <yofel> !ot | stevethepirate_
[19:48] <stevethepirate_> here is my question (btw, ya'll are the same) - I am looking in  /etc/init.d/plymouth   and I have a question about upstart-job.sh and its use of plymouth
[19:49] <stevethepirate_> INITSCRIPT="$(basename "$0")"
[19:50] <stevethepirate_> does this line store the value of the name of the script that called plymouth in INITSCRIPT?
[19:51] <yofel> since you run initscript themselves, that would return 'basename /etc/init.d/plymouth' i.e. 'plymouth'
[19:51] <yofel> since that's what you want to run
[19:51] <Pici> stevethepirate_: yes
[19:51] <yofel> upstart-job.sh then takes care of starting the plymouth service as defined in plymouth.conf
[19:51] <Pici> stevethepirate_: as you can see there are a number of scripts in /etc/init.d that are all symlinked to /lib/init/upstart-job
[19:51] <yofel> er, /etc/init/plymouth.conf
[19:53] <stevethepirate_> Is this for all files in init.d?
[19:53] <stevethepirate_> they are all symlinked?
[19:53] <yofel> for all files that are symlinked, not all are
[19:53] <Pici> stevethepirate_: Take a look yourself.
[19:53] <yofel> ls -la /etc/init.d/  will tell you
[19:55] <stevethepirate_> o i finally understand that
[19:55] <stevethepirate_> thank you so much
[19:56] <CoJaBo> Can the sleep option be removed from the menu (or disabled entirely)? (Ideally, it should work, but I doubt it'd be easy... hibernate does work, which is a good enough workaround)
[20:42] <DrDocHappy> Still wet behind the ears... Wow! This is amazing!
[20:48] <pawleeq> hello
[20:54] <pawleeq> whenever I play video file it stucks after few seconds and loops last few milliseconds of audio track. The computer gets completely stuck si I have to restart it. What the hell is wrong?
[20:56] <OerHeks> pawleeq, what player are you using, and did you try a different one ?
[20:58] <pawleeq> OerHeks: I have tried sofar kplayer, mplayer, smplayer, dragon and vlc
[21:01] <OerHeks> pawleeq, and does this occur with all your video ?
[21:02] <pawleeq> OerHeks: well, i haven't tried all of them, but all the files i tried did this
[21:04] <draik> Does anyone here have HDMI audio working on Kubuntu 11.04? I've tried various things and I can't get audio to work from firefox or flash/Pandora.
[21:11] <CoJaBo> Can the sleep option be removed from the menu (or disabled entirely)? (Ideally, it should work, but I doubt it'd be easy... hibernate does work, which is a good enough workaround)
[21:12] <CoJaBo> draik:  does it work in everything else?
[21:15] <genii-around> CoJaBo: in /etc/acpi the scripts which do stuff like sleep, hibernate, and so on are. A dirty but fast thing would be to rename sleep.sh to something like sleep.sh.old and symlink a new sleep.sh to hibernate.sh
[21:16] <CoJaBo> genii-around:  ah, thanks- should be good enough, I'm used to clicking sleep, but that crashes this pc lol
[21:19] <draik> CoJaBo: VLC
[21:22] <CoJaBo> draik:  it works or doesn't in vlc?
[21:26] <draik> CoJaBo: It does work in VLC
[21:26] <Night-Hacks> i installed kubuntu-desktop on my 10.04
[21:26] <draik> CoJaBo: It is not working with Firefox or Pandora
[21:26] <Night-Hacks> how can i delete it completely
[21:26] <draik> Night-Hacks: What do you want instead of kubuntu-desktop?
[21:27] <Night-Hacks> draik: im in Gnome
[21:27] <Night-Hacks> just tested Kubuntu
[21:27] <Night-Hacks> i really hated it !
[21:27] <CoJaBo> draik: is the cable inserted and input selected when the first Flash control is loaded? Flash, once loaded, won't change audio outputs until the browser is exited.
[21:28] <draik> Ah. sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop   that will remove the meta package, but not what was installed.
[21:28] <draik> CoJaBo: Not sure I follow. The HDMI cable works as I'm using IRC on it.
[21:29] <Night-Hacks> draik: what about lot's of software that package installed like K* !!!
[21:29] <CoJaBo> draik:  is it always plugged in?
[21:30] <draik> CoJaBo: Yes. I use dual-monitor and it is my 2nd display.
[21:30] <draik> Night-Hacks: Sure, but what about libraries and such? Best to see if you still have what was previously installed and go from there.
[21:31] <Night-Hacks>  draik: yeah im deleting everything starts with K in Synaptic !!!
[21:32] <rww> o.O
[21:32] <rww> !puregnome
[21:36] <draik> !purekde
[21:37] <draik> Interesting. I remember when I tried to get PureKDE, I did the removal of ubuntu-desktop, but it only removed the meta package, not everything that came with it.
[21:42] <DrDocHappy_> I just tried removing ubuntu and got aptitude not found
[21:43] <DrDocHappy_> I think I have bigger issues, several files missing
[21:43] <DrDocHappy_> Doesnt want to properly uipdate, rebooting now
[21:45] <yofel> DrDocHappy_: aptitude isn't installed by default, use apt-get
[21:49] <draik> CoJaBo: Have you had the issue with HDMI audio not working on FF or Pandora?
[21:50] <m_tadeu> hi...is there an app that we can write notes on a timeline?
[21:50] <draik> evernote?
[21:50] <draik> Sorry, read your question wrong. Disregard.
[21:53] <CoJaBo> draik: unfortunately, flash tends not to play well with "non-default" configurations. I couldn't get it working with a VPN, compulsory proxy, or USB headphones. in all cases, it'd use the default NIC or audio device.
[21:54] <draik> m_tadeu: EtherPad, maybe? http://code.google.com/p/etherpad/
[21:55] <draik> CoJaBo: I may have other issues, too. Highlighting text won't copy, either.
[22:02] <CoJaBo> draik:  in flash?
[22:02] <draik> CoJaBo: Such as YouTube videos, etc.
[22:03] <CoJaBo> draik:  of course. its Flash. it doesn't obey os native features or settings, which is why it sucks :P
[22:04] <CoJaBo> you have to copy the Windows way, right click and copy
[22:04] <CoJaBo> or ctrl c if the flesh control hasn't disabled that
[22:05] <m_tadeu> draik: thanx
[22:06] <draik> m_tadeu: Did that help you?
[22:06] <draik> CoJaBo: I liked the copy/paste method with just the mouse.
[22:06] <draik> Well, copying via highlight
[22:06] <m_tadeu> draik: it didn't...but then I figured out how to do it in kontact...looks ugly for what I want, but will do the job
[22:08] <CoJaBo> draik:  yeh, you can't configure flash the way you like. strange then that Apple didn't get along with them, song the same thing xD
[22:08] <CoJaBo> song = doing
[22:14] <waspy> can anyone help me with rebuilding hardware raid? i have a box given to me that has raid5 and 1 disk failed
[22:22] <CoJaBo> fail
[23:00] <KELVORG> . . .
[23:05] <Linkmaster> ?
[23:21] <bobweaver> hi there where in  the world is the default color scheme located in kubuntu ?
[23:23] <bobweaver> not under /usr/share/kde4/apps/color-scheme
[23:30] <claydoh> bobweaver: mine are there, /usr/share/kde4/apps/color-schemes/ the default is Oxygen
[23:31] <bobweaver> hmm.
[23:32] <bobweaver> I deleted all but one (obsiden coast)  and want to now make that defult
[23:33] <bobweaver> but when i go to system settings default is still set to oxygen
[23:34] <bobweaver> if I alter will it save under ~/.config ?
[23:34] <bobweaver> or usr/share/where/ever
[23:34] <bobweaver> there is one way that I can find out :>)
[23:34] <claydoh> why not leave it set to obsidian and not worry about a default?
[23:35] <bobweaver> when making a back up using remastersys I want the defult to be obsiden coast
[23:36] <claydoh> look in parts of kubuntu-default-settings
[23:36] <bobweaver> so when I give to family for gift it will be my font and color scheme and window and so on
[23:37] <bobweaver> Thanks
[23:37]  * bobweaver runs of to konsol 
[23:38] <bobweaver> there she is captian
[23:38] <bobweaver> a hoy mateie
[23:38]  * bobweaver is real happy 
[23:42] <bobweaver> scalpel doctor I am going in. Wait I did not delete any files . maybe just use stethoscope :>)
[23:47] <Snooffy> hi guys, how to check filesystem when the system is mounted?
[23:48] <draik> mount
[23:49] <tsimpson> you generally don't check it while it's mounted
[23:49] <draik> Sorry, thought that was in regards to the fs type, not fsck.
[23:53] <draik> CoJaBo: So... I seem to have the copy/paste function on my mouse if I use the mousewheel clicker (aka 3rd button)