| gmb | danilos: I have no idea what to do with this question re: translations. Do you? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/165196 | 10:29 |
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| danilos | gmb, please assign that to me, there's a very similar question from dpm already and I'll have to discuss that with henninge later today | 10:30 |
| gmb | danilos: Will do, thanks. | 10:30 |
| gary_poster | gmb (& benji) I'm taking a look at the accessor_for/mutator_for stuff. I'll toss it to benji if I can't figure it out. :-P | 11:10 |
| gary_poster | gmb, the easiest thing to do that would almost certainly work would be to define a PropertyWithAccessorAndMutator and move on. I'm digging into Passthrough now though. | 11:23 |
| gary_poster | gmb, yeah, Passthrough will try to adapt the context object, thereby bypassing the wrapped property. | 11:28 |
| gary_poster | I recommend what I said before. | 11:29 |
| * gmb returns | 12:01 | |
| gmb | gary_poster: Thanks for the email. I'm going to chose the purple face, since the PropertyWithAccessorAndMutator option is so obvious I should have spotted it a mile off. | 12:01 |
| gary_poster | gmb, cool :-) | 12:01 |
| gmb | Also, I like that you referred to "lazy.delegates" | 12:02 |
| gary_poster | heh | 12:02 |
| gary_poster | actually I saw that typo and thought I had fixed it :-P | 12:02 |
| gmb | :) | 12:02 |
| * gmb ploughs through some more Questions. | 12:03 | |
| gmb | gary_poster: To whom should a person speak if they want a Private PPA? I'm guessing it's lumped in with commercial subscriptions, but that's just a guess. | 12:09 |
| bac | gmb: yes, send them off to young matthew | 12:09 |
| gary_poster | thanks both of you | 12:10 |
| gmb | bac: Young Matthew it is. Ta. | 12:10 |
| gmb | 12:10 | |
| bac | gmb: is lp2devnull running as cron? | 12:21 |
| gmb | bac: Yes. Grr. Let me see if it's doing owt. | 12:22 |
| bac | i have a bug that is simple (only one bugtask and is for lp) that hasn't updated. my understanding is that only cards for bugs with multiple bugtasks were troublesome. | 12:23 |
| bac | s/is/was | 12:23 |
| gmb | Well, it's certainly been running, according to syslog anyway. | 12:23 |
| gmb | I'll run it manually. Hang on | 12:23 |
| bac | gary_poster: in your world, do you use safari to hit launchpad.dev? with lion it is broken for me. firefox continues to work. | 12:24 |
| gary_poster | bac, in my world I use chrome, which is fine. | 12:24 |
| gmb | bac: Just ran it and it seems to have done lots of stuff... Can you check? | 12:25 |
| bac | gary_poster: for some odd reason, safari is not using /etc/hosts for name resolution as it properly did pre-lion. so it tries to do a dns lookup for launchpad.dev | 12:25 |
| gary_poster | bac, yucko | 12:25 |
| bac | gmb: it worked, thanks | 12:26 |
| gary_poster | bac, sounds like a bug report to me | 12:26 |
| gmb | Hmm. | 12:26 |
| bac | yeah, those are fruitful | 12:26 |
| bac | a guy at dinner the other night mentioned apple contacted him to test a fix for a problem he filed four years and three OS versions ago. it was their first acknowledgment of the bug. | 12:27 |
| gary_poster | bac :-P | 12:27 |
| gary_poster | :-( would have been more apt... | 12:27 |
| bac | gmb: my card for bug 788685 got moved to done-done even though it is qa-needstesting | 12:29 |
| _mup_ | Bug #788685: Enable translating selected Ubuntu universe packages in Launchpad <escalated> <oem-services> <qa-needstesting> <Launchpad itself:Fix Committed by bac> <OEM Priority Project:Invalid> <Ubuntu Translations:Triaged> <pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu):Fix Released by pitti> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/788685 > | 12:29 |
| bac | i just moved it back | 12:29 |
| gmb | bac: That'll be because it has a Fix Release bug task. Also, lp2kanban ignores tags (except for syncing them). | 12:30 |
| bac | ah, righto | 12:30 |
| gmb | Two bugs there, huzzah. | 12:30 |
| gary_poster | bac benji danilos gmb, call in about 2 | 12:30 |
| danilos | k | 12:31 |
| danilos | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~marcus-haslam | 12:40 |
| danilos | apparently, IS and plenty other people have noticed auto-responder emails too, I've seen some grudging comments in bugs as well, hopefully it doesn't end up being too bad for us :/ | 13:19 |
| gary_poster | :-/ | 13:19 |
| benji | heh, I just read the @accessor_for email; I like the Julia Child option | 13:37 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 13:37 |
| gary_poster | that's the one he said he chose | 13:37 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Can you take a look at - and approve, if possible - my SQL request on https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/OSA/RequestLogging/LP/SQL? It's to resolve a problem with the owner of the bzr packageset for Oneiric. | 13:55 |
| gary_poster | gmb, ok. | 13:55 |
| gary_poster | gmb, I would feel better if you first asked them to run "SELECT * FROM packageset WHERE name = ..." and verified that you got what you expected before asking for the update. Failing that, we can maybe go with these following questions. | 14:01 |
| gary_poster | what/who is the current owner of those four packages, or more generally, can I assume that you have doublechecked those four names are definitely what you want? | 14:01 |
| gary_poster | Have you verified that there are no distroseries with a name of 'natty' other than the one you want? (SELECT id FROM distroseries WHERE name='natty') | 14:02 |
| gary_poster | Would it help for me to run the SELECT version of this on staging? | 14:02 |
| gary_poster | Done. | 14:02 |
| gary_poster | there is only one naty on staging... | 14:03 |
| gary_poster | natty | 14:03 |
| gary_poster | gmb, oh duh | 14:04 |
| gary_poster | scratch question about "current owner" | 14:04 |
| gary_poster | I see in sql | 14:04 |
| gary_poster | oh no | 14:04 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Wait a sec, seems the SQL's wrong. | 14:04 |
| gary_poster | my question was right to begin with | 14:04 |
| gmb | wiki stomping has happened. | 14:04 |
| gary_poster | just getting confused | 14:05 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Please refresh the page; the SQL is correct now. | 14:06 |
| gmb | Julian and I had edits that collided. | 14:06 |
| gary_poster | ah | 14:06 |
| gary_poster | ok | 14:06 |
| gary_poster | yeah was noticing that all of those four seemed to already be what you wanted, at least on staging | 14:07 |
| gary_poster | gmb, | 14:08 |
| gary_poster | lpmain_staging=> SELECT id FROM distroseries WHERE name='oneiric'; | 14:08 |
| gary_poster | id | 14:08 |
| gary_poster | ----- | 14:08 |
| gary_poster | 112 | 14:08 |
| gary_poster | 107 | 14:08 |
| gmb | Uh? | 14:09 |
| gmb | That's... Hmm. | 14:09 |
| gary_poster | gmb, | 14:09 |
| gary_poster | lpmain_staging=> SELECT id, summary FROM distroseries WHERE name='oneiric'; | 14:09 |
| gary_poster | id | summary | 14:09 |
| gary_poster | -----+-------------------------------------------------- | 14:09 |
| gary_poster | 112 | Series for formula supporting Natty and Oneiric. | 14:09 |
| gary_poster | 107 | See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot | 14:09 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Oaky. We should continue this in #launchpad so that cjwatson can clear up the confusion for us. I suspect 107 is the one we want. | 14:09 |
| gmb | But best to be sure. | 14:10 |
| gary_poster | gmb, I am sure that is what we want | 14:10 |
| gmb | Ah, fair enough. | 14:10 |
| gmb | I'll amend the query. | 14:10 |
| gary_poster | gmb, but we should probably make the sql clearer | 14:10 |
| gary_poster | I'd specify the distribution | 14:10 |
| gary_poster | gmb, while you are editing, humo(u)r me and change IN ('bzr') to = 'bzr' :-) | 14:11 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Done. | 14:13 |
| gary_poster | gmb, I just approved it | 14:17 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Thanks. | 14:17 |
| gary_poster | yw | 14:17 |
| gary_poster | gmb, if anyone asks, we can't run it on staging | 14:18 |
| gary_poster | the bzr record is not there | 14:18 |
| gmb | gary_poster: Understood. | 14:18 |
| * gmb -> post office; back in 30 | 14:34 | |
| bac | hi danilos | 14:40 |
| gary_poster | dun-dum-daah! it's CHR time! | 15:00 |
| gary_poster | (that was supposed to evoke old TV superhero cartoon noises, FTR) | 15:00 |
| benji | I heard it. | 15:01 |
| gary_poster | :-) thanks | 15:01 |
| gary_poster | gmb, is https://support.one.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=3622 the one you asked mrevell about, or was that another one (and so I can ask him)? | 15:37 |
| gary_poster | (I assign these things to Matthew so they are reasonably clearly "in progress and supposed to be handled" in that case) | 15:37 |
| gmb | gary_poster: I pinged Matthew about it but didn't assign the ticket to him. | 15:37 |
| gary_poster | gmb, cool thx I will assign | 15:38 |
| bac | danilos: you still around? | 16:16 |
| gmb | gary_poster: FYI, WRT the out of office notification problem discussed earlier; sladen had collated a list of bug and comment IDs. I've written a short script and have hidden all the offending comments. We can re-run this as necessary with different data sets. | 16:21 |
| gary_poster | gmb, rock! | 16:24 |
| gmb | :) | 16:24 |
| gary_poster | than you | 16:24 |
| gmb | np | 16:24 |
| gary_poster | thank, even | 16:24 |
| gary_poster | lunch is calling, in a not-too-subtle voice. biab. | 16:29 |
| gary_poster | thank you for helping awolfson benji | 17:44 |
| benji | yep, np | 17:44 |
| benji | I wonder if this new toy is the thing replying to bug mail: https://outofoffice.canonical.com/ | 17:58 |
| benji | I wonder if it sends out-of-office replies to "Precedence: bulk" messages; it shouldn't. | 17:59 |
| gary_poster | gmb was talking with is about that I think; the answer was "no" in his conversations, AIUI | 18:00 |
| gary_poster | benji, worth asking him tomorrow though | 18:00 |
| benji | k | 18:00 |
| gary_poster | ("talking with IS," I should say) | 18:01 |
| benji | I wonder if capital letters will fall out of usage over the next few hundred years. | 18:03 |
| gary_poster | the revenge of e.e. cumming, they will call it | 18:03 |
| gary_poster | or cummings, even | 18:04 |
| benji | heh; I like him. I wonder if he was a time travelor from some future IRC/SMS wasteland. | 18:05 |
| gary_poster | heh | 18:05 |
| benji | I'm down to one last query (per row) to remove. This one may be tricky. | 18:27 |
| benji | gary_poster: Do you know how to rename a table in a JOIN? I don't know the term for it and I don't see that Storm supports it. (I need to join the same table twice, the second time with a new name so I can distinguish it in the join condition) | 18:33 |
| gary_poster | benji, dunno if it helps, but I imagine you've seen the "it can be faster to get a big chunk out of the database in a kind of raw format and then significantly process it in Python" approach. rename a table in a join with storm. not sure; looking | 18:34 |
| benji | yeah, I used that approach in my last task, but this one actually makes sense as a SQL query, unfortunately I'm not using SQL so... | 18:35 |
| gary_poster | right | 18:35 |
| benji | I could always switch to SQL. It might be the sanest thing. Maybe in review someone will show me the Storm-tastic way of doing it. | 18:36 |
| gary_poster | benji, I was just going to look at the storm code, because I can't remember | 18:36 |
| gary_poster | storm code is pretty clean | 18:36 |
| gary_poster | give yourself 15 minutes to dig into it for what you want | 18:36 |
| benji | yeah, I don't see any way to spell it with just Storm | 18:37 |
| gary_poster | I was going to start with whatever the join code is | 18:37 |
| gary_poster | oh ok | 18:37 |
| gary_poster | lemme try one other source then... | 18:37 |
| benji | I've already spent 15 on it, so I'll call it and switch to SQL | 18:37 |
| gary_poster | benji, look up Storm's "Alias" | 18:38 |
| benji | gary_poster: I saw that, but it's intended for ORDER BY, and my reading of the code suggests that it won't work for JOINs because the JOINs don't have a place to specify the alias (the actual string that the column should be aliased to) | 18:40 |
| gary_poster | benji, here's the example I have (in print :-/ ) | 18:40 |
| gary_poster | columns = (PillarName, Project, Product, SQL('rank')) | 18:40 |
| gary_poster | fake_table = Alias(SQL(query), 'subselect') # I can give you value of query later | 18:41 |
| benji | oh, that's using a subselect; I guess that could work... but I'm hesitant to work so hard to avoid SQL; what do you think? | 18:42 |
| benji | (and why did you give me the value for columns?) | 18:43 |
| gary_poster | origin = [PillarName, Join(fake_table, PillarName.name == SQL('subselect.name')), LeftJoin(Project, PillarName.project==Project.id), LeftJoin(Product, PillarName.product==Product.id),] | 18:43 |
| gary_poster | result = store.using(*origin).find(columns) | 18:43 |
| gary_poster | "query" is a bug raw sql string that I doubt you care about | 18:44 |
| benji | wait, I just realized that since I'm using this TemplatesCollection thing, I don't think even that would work (or how to transition sanely to SQL) | 18:44 |
| benji | grrr | 18:44 |
| gary_poster | benji, is it useful to return full objects? Is it useful to be able to use other Storm query bits | 18:45 |
| gary_poster | ok, benji, that's all I've got :-) | 18:45 |
| benji | right now they are full objects; I don't understand the second quesiton | 18:45 |
| gary_poster | the "useful" questions were intended to let you decide whether storm would be a value add | 18:45 |
| benji | k | 18:45 |
| gary_poster | "other storm query bits" : like, let people pass in storm constraints and have them fit in | 18:46 |
| benji | I'm going to have to ponder this for a bit. | 18:46 |
| benji | ah | 18:46 |
| gary_poster | I do that with some internal code | 18:46 |
| gary_poster | probably not good as a public API, but within a module it was handy | 18:46 |
| benji | not here, but I could see why that would be a reason to use Storm (keeping you from having to munge strings six ways from Sunday) | 18:46 |
| gary_poster | right | 18:46 |
| gary_poster | ok cool, I'm happy to try and be a sounding board if you want to talk through whatever problem you've identified, but otherwise, that's all I know benji :-) | 18:47 |
| gary_poster | and all I know how to look up :-) | 18:48 |
| benji | :) | 18:48 |
| bac | hi gary, fyi i worked with julian until he left for EOD trying to do QA for bug 788685 . it is a pretty involved process and once we finally got a new package built, uploaded, and processed the build failed for unrelated reasons. by then julian was gone. | 19:06 |
| _mup_ | Bug #788685: Enable translating selected Ubuntu universe packages in Launchpad <escalated> <oem-services> <qa-needstesting> <Launchpad itself:Fix Committed by bac> <OEM Priority Project:Invalid> <Ubuntu Translations:Triaged> <pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu):Fix Released by pitti> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/788685 > | 19:06 |
| gary_poster | on call with flacoste | 19:06 |
| bac | gary_poster: np, i'm done. just giving you an update | 19:06 |
| bac | gary_poster: you could come present your ec2 work: http://www.cloudcamp.org/rtp/2011-08-06 | 19:16 |
| benji | bac: you're not CHRing at the moment are you? | 19:46 |
| bac | benji: no, but i will be in 14 mihtues | 19:46 |
| bac | which is like a minute on 59.8 seconds | 19:46 |
| bac | er, only | 19:47 |
| benji | k; I silenced my CHR alarm and then promptly forgot to do it; I'll see how much I can do in 15 minutes. | 19:47 |
| bac | we introduce the new concept of Speed CHR | 19:47 |
| bac | like normal CHR but more dangerous | 19:47 |
| benji | Faster and CHRier | 20:04 |
| bac | benji: ok, i'm taking the helm | 20:05 |
| benji | k | 20:05 |
| bac | benji: so it looks like we're mostly caught up on CHR. i was expecting to see a big mess. | 20:13 |
| benji | bac: the only backlog is open questions, as far as I can tell | 20:14 |
| gary_poster | just sent email update from Francis call | 20:37 |
| gary_poster | bac, thanks for update | 20:38 |
| gary_poster | i'll consider the cloud thing, but I may be more interested in that sort of thing when Julia is a bit older. That's lazy I know...we'll see :-) | 20:38 |
| * gary_poster past EoD | 20:39 | |
| gary_poster | bye | 20:39 |
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