[00:14] <rww> ActionParsnip: I am, but iirc the /topic link was about them not working *at all*
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> rww: yeah, its like a milder version. Gonna smash this thing up anyway, gonna get a transfomer tablet thing soon. This thing has done its time
[01:01] <Seven_Six_Two> is alpha2 preferred over the daily build? I have a spare partition, so breakage isn't such a big deal.
[01:02] <jbicha> Seven_Six_Two: no, updating an alpha 2 install and running the daily build are basically the same thing
[01:03] <Seven_Six_Two> alright. thanks jbicha
[01:07] <dr_willis> the daily 'test of faith'  :)
[01:32] <Seven_Six_Two> it sure is downloading slowly...
[01:34] <Seven_Six_Two> 100MB in, and chromium reports "3 hours left". I wasn't planning on staying up that late...
[01:38] <Seven_Six_Two> I just noticed the torrent file. should have scrolled down, but transmission says that the torrent file is not authorized with the tracker. oops??
[01:39] <Seven_Six_Two> fyi, I chose http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-2/oneiric-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[01:40] <rww> doesn't surprise me. Ubuntu's torrent tracker is... silly.
[01:40] <Seven_Six_Two> I'll try adding my list of trackers
[01:42] <Seven_Six_Two> nevermind. even with the error, it's going faster than direct download. it's all good.
[01:42] <rww> hurray for DHT, I guess
[01:53] <dr_willis> gotta run. byees
[03:59] <PythonPup> Howdy.  What is used in oneiric to replace gconf-editor?  I need to fix a couple of things and that is where I have adjusted them in the past.  Googling has not helped.  I know there is a gconf-editor to install, but it has nothing in it.
[04:02] <nit-wit> PythonPup, alt-f2
[04:02] <nit-wit> type in gconf-editor
[04:03] <rww> PythonPup: GNOME 3 doesn't use gconf, hence gconf-editor being empty. What "couple of things" are you looking to change?
[04:03] <PythonPup> That is no different from running it at a terminal prompt.  It still has no keys to edit.
[04:05] <PythonPup> The first one is  apps/nautilus/preferences.  I change it to always show location entry.
[04:06] <PythonPup> Next, I go to apps/metacity/genneral/button_layout    And, then, I go to apps/update-notifier/auto_launch.
[04:07] <PythonPup> So, maybe I should be ggogling for gnome3 and gconf-editor, instead of oneiric and gconf-editor.
[04:21] <PythonPup> rww, do you know where to fix those things in Oneiric?
[04:22] <rww> PythonPup: I'd imagine dconf, but Google isn't turning up anything and I don't have GNOME 3 handy.
[04:25] <PythonPup> I did not see anything useful in dconf.  I did try that.  I'll keep looking.  I just installed and I need to apply updates anyway.  I sure am glad the fix from Natty for global menues seems to work in Oneiric.  Unity seems improved, but I just started with Oneiric.
[05:37] <PythonPup> Is there a way to fix Firefox so it does not start up maximized?  I never want it that way.
[08:04] <frenkel> what am I doing wrong when uploading to a ppa and launchpad sends me emails with "Could not find person or team named ''"
[08:05] <bazhang> frenkel, perhaps try #launchpad ?
[08:05] <frenkel> good idea, thanks
[08:37] <antihero> Argh, whenever I login, I get a "gnome-session" process that just sits there eating 99% CPU
[08:37] <bazhang> antihero, what version of ubuntu
[08:38] <antihero> oneiric
[08:39] <bazhang> antihero, then please keep your questions here, and not in #ubuntu
[08:39] <antihero> Aye, posted wrong channel by accident.
[08:39] <antihero> I also having issue in that linux-image won't upgrade
[08:40] <bazhang> upgrade to what? what's the error?
[08:40] <antihero> dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.0.0-7-generic (--configure):
[08:41] <antihero> subprocess installed post-installed post blah blah exit status 2
[08:43] <antihero> I'll try installing the package directly
[08:43] <antihero> hmm
[08:43] <antihero> "Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.0.0-7-geneirc.postinst line 101
[08:43] <antihero> 0
[08:49] <antihero> hmm, seems to be in postinst.d in nvidia-common
[09:01] <antihero> Okay, kernel installed, now I'm sitting at tty5 looking at HTOP as gdm logs me in
[09:01] <antihero> and wondering why there's a gnome-session process just sitting there at 100% CPU
[10:04] <gil> Hi all - I was wondering if anyone has any insight to some lightdm issues I am experiencing - when the lightdm login box comes up, I click my username and it automatically tries to load a session without prompting me for a password - then I just get a blank screen with no session loaded.... is this a known bug?
[10:56] <SSetoo> hi
[10:56] <SSetoo> unity 2d without compiz right ß
[11:49] <antihero> how would I go about disabling the "out of battery" icon on my desktop?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:24] <belu> hello, is it easy to get on an oneiric amd fusion system with hardware acceleration?
[14:09] <DASSADD> hello
[14:09] <DASSADD> i have got a question
[14:09] <yofel> !ask
[14:19] <Guest19965> hi
[14:19] <Guest19965> i have a problem with xubuntu
[14:20] <Guest19965> i juste start using it
[14:20] <Pici> Guest19965: On 11.10 ?
[14:20] <Guest19965> 10.04
[14:20] <Guest19965> and i have not a real graphical interface
[14:20] <Guest19965> just a black screen and a grey bar
[14:21] <Guest19965> at the botom
[14:21] <Pici> Guest19965: This channel is for 11.10 support only, #xubuntu would be more appropriate for your question.
[14:21] <Guest19965> i have installed xfce
[14:21] <Guest19965> they just forard me here
[14:22] <yofel> what did you tell them before that?
[14:22] <Pici> 10:17:00 <TheSheep> Guest19965: ah, so this is a testing image for the next version of xubuntu?
[14:23] <Pici> 10:17:14 <?Guest19965> yes
 Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
 Guest19965: please go to that channel, ther are people who can help you with testing in there
[14:23] <Pici> Because you told them that you were testing the next version of Ubuntu.
[14:24] <Guest19965> no
[14:24] <yofel> Guest19965: 10.04 is not the next testing version, that's 11.10
[14:24] <yofel> Guest19965: you said yes to TheSheep's question
[14:24] <Pici> Guest19965: You might not have intended that, but as an outsider looking at the conversation, thats what I would infer.
[14:24] <Pici> Guest19965: anyway, they're the best people to answer your question anyway. :)
[14:24]  * yofel agress with Pici
[14:25] <charlie-tca> Guest19965: please do come back over to #xubuntu.
[14:25] <Guest19965> dose not matter....
[14:25] <Guest19965> ok
[14:25] <Guest19965> thanks
[14:25] <Guest19965> ++
[14:25] <DASSADD> hello
[14:25] <DASSADD> i have got a question
[14:27] <coz_> DASSADD,  cool... what is it ?
[14:31] <DASSADD> well is ubuntu 11.10 usuable for productive use
[14:31] <jml> hello
[14:31] <jml> I just upgraded to oneiric, and I'm getting a kernel panic on boot
[14:32] <rww> DASSADD: no
[14:32] <DASSADD> i mean not productive
[14:32] <DASSADD> but usuable
[14:32] <jml> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[14:32] <DASSADD> it is not bad if sometimes it did not work quite right
[14:32] <DASSADD> because it is private pc
[14:33] <rww> DASSADD: It's an alpha version of Ubuntu with alpha-level stability. If you're asking these questions, you care about stability at all, and thus should not be using it.
[14:33] <jml> Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 3.0.0-7-generic #8-Ubuntu
[14:33] <DASSADD> well i have got not a problem if it is not so stable
[14:33] <yofel> jml: there should be some error above that usually
[14:33] <DASSADD> but i do not want to reinstall per day because it did not work anymore
[14:33] <DASSADD> anymore
[14:34] <jml> DASSADD: "Starting up ..."
[14:34] <jml> DASSADD: that's it
[14:34] <jml> sorry
[14:34] <jml> yofel: ^^
[14:34] <DASSADD> what ?
[14:35] <jml> DASSADD: my bad. please disregard.
[14:35] <DASSADD> ok
[14:35] <yofel> ... no idea, edit the kernel settings in grub and remove "quiet splash" from the kernel command line
[14:35] <yofel> maybe that'll print more
[14:36] <jml> yofel: how do I interrupt the boot process in order to do that?
[14:37] <yofel> holding shift before grub usually comes up should give you the boot selection
[14:39] <jml> yofel: no joy.
[14:39] <yofel> hm, holding left shift pressed at boot is usually the way to get grub up. Try holding it while you're still at the bios screen
[14:42] <jml> yofel: 0210: Stuck Key 2A
[14:43] <yofel> :(
[14:43] <jml> I guess I can try to recover from an external CD drive + natty CD.
[14:46] <DASSADD> i have got a question
[14:52] <ikonia> best to ask it then DASSADD
[14:55] <DASSADD> i already asked it 10 times
[14:56] <DASSADD> is ubuntu 11.10 usuable ß
[14:56] <DASSADD> or is it to buggy ß
[14:56] <jml> DASSADD: many people use it.
[14:56] <jml> DASSADD: it's a subjective question
[14:56] <DASSADD> ok
[14:56] <ior3k> DASSADD: yes, based on my experience
[14:56] <DASSADD> should i download daily or alpha
[14:56] <DASSADD> hehe
[14:56] <jml> OK, I've booted via CD and have the hard drive mounted
[14:56] <DASSADD> alpha
[14:56] <DASSADD> hehe
[14:57] <yofel> daily would be a good mearsure whether it works or not
[14:57] <jml> is there something I can do to debug?
[14:57] <yofel> expect it to not work at all (although I'm fine)
[14:58] <DASSADD> what
[14:58] <DASSADD> daily or not
[14:58] <DASSADD> do not understand your answer
[14:59] <ior3k> DASSADD: install the alpha, then if you feel courageous do an aptitude dist-upgrade
[14:59] <ior3k> if not, stay on the alpha until the next alpha is out
[15:00] <DASSADD> okay
[15:00] <yofel> jml: chroot to the system, edit /etc/default/grub, comment the HIDDEN lines out, remove quiet splash, save, run update-grub and restart
[15:00] <DASSADD> and what is if ubuntu 11.10 is out
[15:01] <DASSADD> can i get it via upgrade or have i to reinstall
[15:01] <yofel> no need to reinstall
[15:01] <DASSADD> ok
[15:01] <DASSADD> yofel: do you use ubuntu 11.10 too
[15:01] <yofel> I'm on kubuntu 11.10
[15:01] <yofel> well, oneiric
[15:02] <DASSADD> ok
[15:02] <jml> yofel: thanks.
[15:02] <DASSADD> i have a problem with unity, it works good but the workspaces i do not like
[15:02] <DASSADD> e
[15:03] <DASSADD> can you solve it
[15:03] <DASSADD> or have i to change to kde
[15:04] <yofel> feel free to try KDE, I only tried unity a few times so no idea about your issue
[15:04] <yofel> someone else might have an idea if you stick around
[15:04] <DASSADD> yofel why did you change from unity to kde
[15:04] <DASSADD> do not you like unity
[15:05] <jml> *sigh* 32 bit boot cd, 64 bit install
[15:05] <yofel> I'm on KDE since karmic. As for unity I neither like nor hate it, but it's not that much better than KDE to make me switch
[15:05] <DASSADD> ok
[15:05] <DASSADD> and what do you like on kde what gnome not having
[15:07] <yofel> more config options :P - but generally the workspace just fits me better, I do prefer unity over gnome2 and gnome-shell to be honest
[15:08] <DASSADD> so you like:
[15:08] <DASSADD> 1. gnome 3, 2. unity, 3. gnome 2
[15:08] <yofel> nope, 1) KDE > 2) unity > 3) gnome2 > 4) gnome3
[15:08] <DASSADD> ok
[15:09] <yofel> actually place XFCE between gnome2 and 3
[15:10] <yofel> bbl
[15:50] <jml> ... and after disabling the hidden grub menu and the quiet splash options, it works.
[15:50] <jml> hmm.
[15:51] <jml> I bet it was some other change.
[15:51] <Pici> Curious.
[15:51] <jml> when I ran update-grub I was asked to merge in some other changes...
[15:52] <jml> easy enough to remove my debug-related changes & try again.
[17:36] <dupondje> Somebody with azerty keyboard around ?
[17:37] <Ian_Corne> yes
[17:37] <Ian_Corne> what do you need?
[17:37] <dupondje> Is shift-lock also not giving numbers ?
[17:38] <dupondje> but &É"' etc ?
[17:38] <Ian_Corne> under linux, it never does by default
[17:38] <Ian_Corne> and it's caps lock,not shift lock
[17:38] <dupondje> keyboard tells me Shift lock :D
[17:38] <dsathe> in oneric why is the top window bar messed up under gnome shell ?
[17:39] <dsathe> any fix ?
[17:39] <Ian_Corne> well it acts like caps lock dupondje
[17:39] <dupondje> Ian_Corne: But I changed it to 'Caps Lock werkt als Shift met blokkering'
[17:39] <dupondje> but still same issue
[17:39] <Ian_Corne> ah
[17:39] <Ian_Corne> leme try
[17:40] <Ian_Corne> try
[17:40] <Ian_Corne> caps lock toggles shift
[17:40] <Ian_Corne> so all keys are affected
[17:41] <dupondje> But if you set 'Caps lock to be a Locking Shift'
[17:41] <Ian_Corne> don't have a dutch ubuntu tho
[17:41] <dupondje> with caps-locks enabled it should give 123 etc no ?
[17:42] <Ian_Corne> yes
[17:42] <Ian_Corne> it does for me
[17:42] <Ian_Corne> it's the sixth option
[17:42] <dupondje> Yep
[17:43] <dupondje> but doesn't work here
[17:53] <dupondje> Ian_Corne: No other ideas ?
[18:06] <Ian_Corne> nope
[18:39] <jamesbond2> Hi, There is service loop after install the last services
[18:39] <jamesbond2> Hi, There is service loop after install the last packages
[18:45] <TheBuntu> im in 11.04 trying to go to the latest release of 11.10 sudo do-release-upgrade –d is saying No new release found
[18:48] <cjohnston> Can anyone help me with setting up my wireless? I have a b43 card, I've tried whats on the b43 troubleshooting page to no avail. I currently have no internet access on the computer.. This is the output from /var/log/jockey.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/652600/
[18:55] <BluesKaj> !bcm | cjohnston
[19:01] <cjohnston> anyone able to provide me with more assistance than just a link? I have already been through the b43 docs, so I'm not sure what they are wanting to point me at with that generic page
[19:25] <TheBuntu> trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and geting...Could not calculate the upgrade An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: The package 'update-manager-kde' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist
[19:26] <genii-around> TheBuntu: You can remove it, do the upgrade, then reinstall it... that's what I did.
[19:27] <TheBuntu> genii-around: it wont let me do the upgrade
[19:28] <genii-around> TheBuntu: Yes, I understood your problem. If you manually remove the package called update-manager-kde  and then do the 11.04 to 11.10 upgrade, you can re-add update-managedr-kde again after it completes.
[19:28] <TheBuntu> ok
[19:36] <TheBuntu> genii-around: thanks that worked
[19:36] <genii-around> TheBuntu: You're welcome
[19:37] <TheBuntu> now that its downloading 11.10.... im done hiting buttons for awhile right
[19:37] <genii-around> TheBuntu: The upgrade will take a while
[19:40] <TheBuntu> genii-around: thats one of the things i like about arch linux and chakra.... pacman installs faster...... but im geting tired of loosing my sound..... never have that issie with ubuntu
[19:41] <diverse_izzue> hi all. i have oneiric not booting since just now. no error message, it just stops in the boot process. the last message on screen is that timidity was started OK. anyone else?
[19:46] <TheBuntu> diverse_izzue: i'll know in about 5 min win my upgrade done
[19:46] <diverse_izzue> TheBuntu, keep me updated!
[19:48] <TheBuntu> ok
[19:57] <TheBuntu> y
[19:58] <TheBuntu> wrong  screen
[20:12] <TheBuntu> y
[21:31] <h00k> And the alt-tab dealio made it's debut on omgubuntu
[21:53] <jakemp> My desktops keep shifting around.
[21:53] <coz_> jakemp,  shifting as in video issue or viewports?
[21:54] <jakemp> when I switch virtual desktops
[21:54] <jakemp> or workspaces, rather
[21:58] <coz_> jakemp,  are you using a keybinding for this in compiz..or edge binding?
[21:58] <jakemp> key binding, ctrl alt arrow key
[22:49] <h00k> new update broke lightdm for me
[22:49] <h00k> beware.
[22:50] <h00k> bug 816695
[22:50] <h00k> and maybe bug 816646, apparently
[22:50] <h00k> my bug may be a duplicate of that
[22:51] <h00k> I'm trying to figure out what else would be useful to attach to that bug
[22:52] <h00k> I have it broken here, some text-based browser, not sure if it's elinks or what
[22:52] <h00k> but I can add attachments
[22:56] <trism> h00k: the logs in /var/log/lightdm would probably be useful
[22:56] <h00k> trism: I grabbed /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log. It's on my duplicate, do I need to reupload to original?
[22:58] <trism> h00k: probably not, I see a issue anyway, lightdm renamed some of the example greeters in 0.9, make sure you have the gtk greeter installed, they are only recommends so it may have missed it
[22:58] <h00k> trism: which would those be?
[22:59] <trism> h00k: I can't check the package name at the moment since I'm not in oneiric, it will be lightdm-gtk-greeter or something
[22:59] <micahg> a new upload ubuntu3 of lightdm was done ~20 minutes ago, that should fix the issues
[22:59] <h00k> oh, there we go.
[22:59] <h00k> I am manually installing lightdm-gtk-greeter
[23:00] <micahg> basically, the new greeter needs to be installed and that didn't work on the first 2 uploads
[23:00] <h00k> That was it, yes.
[23:01] <h00k> micahg: thanks, updated a comment on the bug as well.
[23:05] <h00k> also, turns out it was w3m
[23:11] <alex_mayorga> so do I fetch more updates before shutting down or rebooting?