[00:14] ActionParsnip: I am, but iirc the /topic link was about them not working *at all* [00:15] rww: yeah, its like a milder version. Gonna smash this thing up anyway, gonna get a transfomer tablet thing soon. This thing has done its time [01:01] is alpha2 preferred over the daily build? I have a spare partition, so breakage isn't such a big deal. [01:02] Seven_Six_Two: no, updating an alpha 2 install and running the daily build are basically the same thing [01:03] alright. thanks jbicha [01:07] the daily 'test of faith' :) === jmknsd is now known as jakemp-home [01:32] it sure is downloading slowly... [01:34] 100MB in, and chromium reports "3 hours left". I wasn't planning on staying up that late... [01:38] I just noticed the torrent file. should have scrolled down, but transmission says that the torrent file is not authorized with the tracker. oops?? [01:39] fyi, I chose http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-2/oneiric-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [01:40] doesn't surprise me. Ubuntu's torrent tracker is... silly. [01:40] I'll try adding my list of trackers [01:42] nevermind. even with the error, it's going faster than direct download. it's all good. [01:42] hurray for DHT, I guess [01:53] gotta run. byees [03:59] Howdy. What is used in oneiric to replace gconf-editor? I need to fix a couple of things and that is where I have adjusted them in the past. Googling has not helped. I know there is a gconf-editor to install, but it has nothing in it. [04:02] PythonPup, alt-f2 [04:02] type in gconf-editor [04:03] PythonPup: GNOME 3 doesn't use gconf, hence gconf-editor being empty. What "couple of things" are you looking to change? [04:03] That is no different from running it at a terminal prompt. It still has no keys to edit. [04:05] The first one is apps/nautilus/preferences. I change it to always show location entry. [04:06] Next, I go to apps/metacity/genneral/button_layout And, then, I go to apps/update-notifier/auto_launch. [04:07] So, maybe I should be ggogling for gnome3 and gconf-editor, instead of oneiric and gconf-editor. [04:21] rww, do you know where to fix those things in Oneiric? [04:22] PythonPup: I'd imagine dconf, but Google isn't turning up anything and I don't have GNOME 3 handy. [04:25] I did not see anything useful in dconf. I did try that. I'll keep looking. I just installed and I need to apply updates anyway. I sure am glad the fix from Natty for global menues seems to work in Oneiric. Unity seems improved, but I just started with Oneiric. [05:37] Is there a way to fix Firefox so it does not start up maximized? I never want it that way. [08:04] what am I doing wrong when uploading to a ppa and launchpad sends me emails with "Could not find person or team named ''" [08:05] frenkel, perhaps try #launchpad ? [08:05] good idea, thanks [08:37] Argh, whenever I login, I get a "gnome-session" process that just sits there eating 99% CPU [08:37] antihero, what version of ubuntu [08:38] oneiric [08:39] antihero, then please keep your questions here, and not in #ubuntu [08:39] Aye, posted wrong channel by accident. [08:39] I also having issue in that linux-image won't upgrade [08:40] upgrade to what? what's the error? [08:40] dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.0.0-7-generic (--configure): [08:41] subprocess installed post-installed post blah blah exit status 2 [08:43] I'll try installing the package directly [08:43] hmm [08:43] "Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.0.0-7-geneirc.postinst line 101 [08:43] 0 [08:49] hmm, seems to be in postinst.d in nvidia-common [09:01] Okay, kernel installed, now I'm sitting at tty5 looking at HTOP as gdm logs me in [09:01] and wondering why there's a gnome-session process just sitting there at 100% CPU === EyesIsMine is now known as EyeIsMine === EyeIsMine is now known as EyesIsMine [10:04] Hi all - I was wondering if anyone has any insight to some lightdm issues I am experiencing - when the lightdm login box comes up, I click my username and it automatically tries to load a session without prompting me for a password - then I just get a blank screen with no session loaded.... is this a known bug? [10:56] hi [10:56] unity 2d without compiz right ß === SSetoo is now known as SseTuu === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG [11:49] how would I go about disabling the "out of battery" icon on my desktop? [13:17] Hey all [13:24] hello, is it easy to get on an oneiric amd fusion system with hardware acceleration? === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ [14:09] hello [14:09] i have got a question [14:09] !ask [14:09] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [14:19] hi [14:19] i have a problem with xubuntu [14:20] i juste start using it [14:20] Guest19965: On 11.10 ? [14:20] 10.04 [14:20] and i have not a real graphical interface [14:20] just a black screen and a grey bar [14:21] at the botom [14:21] Guest19965: This channel is for 11.10 support only, #xubuntu would be more appropriate for your question. [14:21] i have installed xfce [14:21] they just forard me here [14:22] what did you tell them before that? [14:22] 10:17:00 Guest19965: ah, so this is a testing image for the next version of xubuntu? [14:23] 10:17:14 yes [14:23] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [14:23] Guest19965: please go to that channel, ther are people who can help you with testing in there [14:23] Because you told them that you were testing the next version of Ubuntu. [14:24] no [14:24] Guest19965: 10.04 is not the next testing version, that's 11.10 [14:24] Guest19965: you said yes to TheSheep's question [14:24] Guest19965: You might not have intended that, but as an outsider looking at the conversation, thats what I would infer. [14:24] Guest19965: anyway, they're the best people to answer your question anyway. :) [14:24] * yofel agress with Pici [14:25] Guest19965: please do come back over to #xubuntu. [14:25] dose not matter.... [14:25] ok [14:25] thanks [14:25] ++ [14:25] hello [14:25] i have got a question [14:27] DASSADD, cool... what is it ? [14:31] well is ubuntu 11.10 usuable for productive use [14:31] hello [14:31] I just upgraded to oneiric, and I'm getting a kernel panic on boot [14:32] DASSADD: no [14:32] i mean not productive [14:32] but usuable [14:32] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) [14:32] it is not bad if sometimes it did not work quite right [14:32] because it is private pc [14:33] DASSADD: It's an alpha version of Ubuntu with alpha-level stability. If you're asking these questions, you care about stability at all, and thus should not be using it. [14:33] Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 3.0.0-7-generic #8-Ubuntu [14:33] well i have got not a problem if it is not so stable [14:33] jml: there should be some error above that usually [14:33] but i do not want to reinstall per day because it did not work anymore [14:33] anymore [14:34] DASSADD: "Starting up ..." [14:34] DASSADD: that's it [14:34] sorry [14:34] yofel: ^^ [14:34] what ? [14:35] DASSADD: my bad. please disregard. [14:35] ok [14:35] ... no idea, edit the kernel settings in grub and remove "quiet splash" from the kernel command line [14:35] maybe that'll print more [14:36] yofel: how do I interrupt the boot process in order to do that? [14:37] holding shift before grub usually comes up should give you the boot selection === dominikzogg is now known as dominikzogg_afk [14:39] yofel: no joy. === rcmaehl_fallback is now known as rcmaehl [14:39] hm, holding left shift pressed at boot is usually the way to get grub up. Try holding it while you're still at the bios screen [14:42] yofel: 0210: Stuck Key 2A [14:43] :( [14:43] I guess I can try to recover from an external CD drive + natty CD. [14:46] i have got a question [14:52] best to ask it then DASSADD [14:55] i already asked it 10 times [14:56] is ubuntu 11.10 usuable ß [14:56] or is it to buggy ß [14:56] DASSADD: many people use it. [14:56] DASSADD: it's a subjective question [14:56] ok [14:56] DASSADD: yes, based on my experience [14:56] should i download daily or alpha [14:56] hehe [14:56] OK, I've booted via CD and have the hard drive mounted [14:56] alpha [14:56] hehe [14:57] daily would be a good mearsure whether it works or not [14:57] is there something I can do to debug? [14:57] expect it to not work at all (although I'm fine) [14:58] what [14:58] daily or not [14:58] do not understand your answer [14:59] DASSADD: install the alpha, then if you feel courageous do an aptitude dist-upgrade [14:59] if not, stay on the alpha until the next alpha is out [15:00] okay [15:00] jml: chroot to the system, edit /etc/default/grub, comment the HIDDEN lines out, remove quiet splash, save, run update-grub and restart [15:00] and what is if ubuntu 11.10 is out [15:01] can i get it via upgrade or have i to reinstall [15:01] no need to reinstall [15:01] ok [15:01] yofel: do you use ubuntu 11.10 too [15:01] I'm on kubuntu 11.10 [15:01] well, oneiric [15:02] ok [15:02] yofel: thanks. [15:02] i have a problem with unity, it works good but the workspaces i do not like [15:02] e [15:03] can you solve it [15:03] or have i to change to kde [15:04] feel free to try KDE, I only tried unity a few times so no idea about your issue [15:04] someone else might have an idea if you stick around [15:04] yofel why did you change from unity to kde [15:04] do not you like unity [15:05] *sigh* 32 bit boot cd, 64 bit install [15:05] I'm on KDE since karmic. As for unity I neither like nor hate it, but it's not that much better than KDE to make me switch [15:05] ok [15:05] and what do you like on kde what gnome not having [15:07] more config options :P - but generally the workspace just fits me better, I do prefer unity over gnome2 and gnome-shell to be honest [15:08] so you like: [15:08] 1. gnome 3, 2. unity, 3. gnome 2 [15:08] nope, 1) KDE > 2) unity > 3) gnome2 > 4) gnome3 [15:08] ok [15:09] actually place XFCE between gnome2 and 3 [15:10] bbl === rcmaehl_fallback is now known as rcmaehl [15:50] ... and after disabling the hidden grub menu and the quiet splash options, it works. [15:50] hmm. [15:51] I bet it was some other change. [15:51] Curious. [15:51] when I ran update-grub I was asked to merge in some other changes... [15:52] easy enough to remove my debug-related changes & try again. === bambee_ is now known as bambee === EyeWare is now known as EyesIsMine [17:36] Somebody with azerty keyboard around ? [17:37] yes [17:37] what do you need? [17:37] Is shift-lock also not giving numbers ? [17:38] but &É"' etc ? [17:38] under linux, it never does by default [17:38] and it's caps lock,not shift lock [17:38] keyboard tells me Shift lock :D [17:38] in oneric why is the top window bar messed up under gnome shell ? [17:39] any fix ? [17:39] well it acts like caps lock dupondje [17:39] Ian_Corne: But I changed it to 'Caps Lock werkt als Shift met blokkering' [17:39] but still same issue [17:39] ah [17:39] leme try [17:40] try [17:40] caps lock toggles shift [17:40] so all keys are affected [17:41] But if you set 'Caps lock to be a Locking Shift' [17:41] don't have a dutch ubuntu tho [17:41] with caps-locks enabled it should give 123 etc no ? [17:42] yes [17:42] it does for me [17:42] it's the sixth option [17:42] Yep [17:43] but doesn't work here [17:53] Ian_Corne: No other ideas ? [18:06] nope === belu_ is now known as belu [18:39] Hi, There is service loop after install the last services [18:39] Hi, There is service loop after install the last packages [18:45] im in 11.04 trying to go to the latest release of 11.10 sudo do-release-upgrade –d is saying No new release found [18:48] Can anyone help me with setting up my wireless? I have a b43 card, I've tried whats on the b43 troubleshooting page to no avail. I currently have no internet access on the computer.. This is the output from /var/log/jockey.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/652600/ [18:55] !bcm | cjohnston [18:55] cjohnston: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [19:01] anyone able to provide me with more assistance than just a link? I have already been through the b43 docs, so I'm not sure what they are wanting to point me at with that generic page [19:25] trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and geting...Could not calculate the upgrade An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: The package 'update-manager-kde' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist [19:26] TheBuntu: You can remove it, do the upgrade, then reinstall it... that's what I did. [19:27] genii-around: it wont let me do the upgrade [19:28] TheBuntu: Yes, I understood your problem. If you manually remove the package called update-manager-kde and then do the 11.04 to 11.10 upgrade, you can re-add update-managedr-kde again after it completes. [19:28] ok [19:36] genii-around: thanks that worked [19:36] TheBuntu: You're welcome [19:37] now that its downloading 11.10.... im done hiting buttons for awhile right [19:37] TheBuntu: The upgrade will take a while [19:40] genii-around: thats one of the things i like about arch linux and chakra.... pacman installs faster...... but im geting tired of loosing my sound..... never have that issie with ubuntu [19:41] hi all. i have oneiric not booting since just now. no error message, it just stops in the boot process. the last message on screen is that timidity was started OK. anyone else? [19:46] diverse_izzue: i'll know in about 5 min win my upgrade done [19:46] TheBuntu, keep me updated! [19:48] ok [19:57] y [19:58] wrong screen [20:12] y === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:31] And the alt-tab dealio made it's debut on omgubuntu [21:53] My desktops keep shifting around. [21:53] jakemp, shifting as in video issue or viewports? [21:54] when I switch virtual desktops [21:54] or workspaces, rather [21:58] jakemp, are you using a keybinding for this in compiz..or edge binding? [21:58] key binding, ctrl alt arrow key === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [22:49] new update broke lightdm for me [22:49] beware. [22:50] bug 816695 [22:50] Launchpad bug 816695 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm does not start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/816695 [22:50] and maybe bug 816646, apparently [22:50] Launchpad bug 816646 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "new update in oneiric broke start-up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/816646 [22:50] my bug may be a duplicate of that [22:51] I'm trying to figure out what else would be useful to attach to that bug [22:52] I have it broken here, some text-based browser, not sure if it's elinks or what [22:52] but I can add attachments [22:56] h00k: the logs in /var/log/lightdm would probably be useful [22:56] trism: I grabbed /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log. It's on my duplicate, do I need to reupload to original? [22:58] h00k: probably not, I see a issue anyway, lightdm renamed some of the example greeters in 0.9, make sure you have the gtk greeter installed, they are only recommends so it may have missed it [22:58] trism: which would those be? [22:59] h00k: I can't check the package name at the moment since I'm not in oneiric, it will be lightdm-gtk-greeter or something [22:59] a new upload ubuntu3 of lightdm was done ~20 minutes ago, that should fix the issues [22:59] oh, there we go. [22:59] I am manually installing lightdm-gtk-greeter [23:00] basically, the new greeter needs to be installed and that didn't work on the first 2 uploads [23:00] That was it, yes. [23:01] micahg: thanks, updated a comment on the bug as well. [23:05] also, turns out it was w3m [23:11] so do I fetch more updates before shutting down or rebooting?