[02:13] <zooko> Folks: can I buy a laptop or netbook or smartbook or whateveryacallem with ARM CPU and comes with Ubuntu on?
[02:16] <mouse> zooko i would try the cheap Plug computers @ https://globalscaletechnologies.com/default.aspx
[02:16] <zooko> Ah, I like those. Got some already! I meant an actual portable thing with a battery, keyboard, wifi, and display.
[02:17] <zooko> Thanks, though.
[02:17] <mouse> no but i imagine one can be built problem is, $$$$$$
[02:20] <mouse> i have the DreamPlug and i like it but so far can only use the gtkterm on my laptop to access it
[02:22]  * zooko nods
[02:23] <zooko> Efika Smartbook exists
[02:23] <zooko> And Always Innovating Touchbook
[02:23] <zooko> Or maybe Always Innovating Smartbook. I think they have two models.
[02:24] <mouse> the minicom tutorial is a bit too much when the system is already setup and tried to access it through minicom and may have messed up some settings:   i check that out
[02:31] <mouse> the efika looks really nice
[02:33] <mouse> that's sick i love it
[02:36] <mouse> now i want one :P
[02:48] <Neko> and just like that it seems we got an order... :)
[07:39] <siji> persia, you there
[07:47] <kapinter> Hi! I had to leave yesterday, but I still have a problem to boot ubuntu-arm on pandaboard, after showing ubuntu logo the monitor switches to powersave mode. Do you have any ideas what can be the problem and how to solve it?
[07:48] <siji> kapinter, ya i was searching for you yesterday
[07:48] <siji> inbetween i also got busy with something
[07:48] <kapinter> siji: thanks alot! :-)
[07:49] <siji> I had a look into ur bootarg , seems like it's ok
[07:49] <siji> from where you got the RootFS ?
[07:49] <siji> have you build it your own by using rootstock?
[07:50] <siji> persia,completed XBMC build successfully
[07:50] <siji> it's working fine now on beagleboard with ubntu natty
[07:53] <kapinter> siji: I just downloaded it and used the sudo sh -c 'zcat ./ubuntu-netbook-10.10-preinstalled-netbook-armel+<omap image>.img.gz >/dev/<device name>' script
[07:53] <kapinter> siji: from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/
[07:53] <siji> ok
[07:54] <siji> kapinter, may be cose the resolution is not supported by ur monitor
[07:55] <kapinter> siji: maybe, but when I switch to tty with CTRL+ALT+F2 it also disappears. What resolution should my monitor support?
[07:58] <siji> kapinter, I suggest you to add kernel debug trace in your bootarg
[07:58] <siji> which wil tell u wht exaclty the error is
[07:58] <kapinter> ok, and how can I do it?
[07:58] <siji> In your rootfs there will be a file named as boot.script
[07:59] <siji> @/boot
[07:59] <siji> add  console=ttyO2,115200n8 there
[07:59] <siji> then create new boot.scr from this script
[07:59] <kapinter> ok
[08:03] <siji> http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_on_OMAP_FAQ
[08:04] <siji> kapinter, it may help you
[08:18] <nicofs> When trying to install libc6 i get "dpkg: error processing libc6 (--install): subprocess installed post-installation script killed by signal (Illegal instruction)" - What can I do?
[08:19] <suihkulokki> what CPU
[08:20] <suihkulokki> chances are your cpu is not ARMv7 compatible, which is what ubuntu requires
[08:21] <nicofs> "ARM Cortex A8"
[08:31] <nicofs> How can I build a chroot environment image of 2GB size with ubuntu-minimal in it?
[08:33] <nicofs> I assume i somehow create a 2GB image, mount it somewhere and then chroot into it... has someone got some sort of guide for that?
[08:35] <siji> nicofs, so your image is ready ?
[08:36] <siji> if not create a image as per this doc
[08:36] <siji> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch
[08:36] <siji> then mount this image into a folder
[08:36] <siji> after that chroot to this folder
[08:37] <nicofs> siji, so rootstock is some sort of debootstrap for arm...?
[08:37] <siji> right
[08:38] <siji> for generating image dnt forget to give the argument  --notarball
[08:45] <nicofs> siji, if i use this --notarball option, what filesystem will be inside the image?
[08:47] <nicofs> or does that just mean, rootstock won't compress it and that i need to create the image first and then rootstock into that image?
[08:48] <siji> nicofs, no it will generate file system too
[08:48] <siji> And I think it's ext4 (not sure)
[08:48] <nicofs> siji, i think i need ext2...
[08:49] <siji> nicofs, the method which you mentioned hasnt worked for me
[08:49] <siji> I failed to chroot to it
[08:49] <nicofs> i'll just give it a go as it is and then use the long way round if it doesn't work...
[08:50] <siji> ok
[09:04] <nicofs_> siji, rootstock aborted with errors... permission denied to change ownership of files... i'll run again and see when this occurs...
[09:04] <siji> nicofs, ok
[09:42] <nicofs> siji, rootstock segfaults... but before i deal with any of that, i'll have lunch...
[09:43] <siji> nicofs, i suggest to start the rootstock process, then move for lunch :)
[09:43] <siji> :)
[09:48] <nicofs> siji, that just segfaulted... if i run it again, it will do that again iguess... but anyway, why not...
[09:48] <siji> nicofs, srry
[09:49] <siji> i hasnt noticed ,"rootstock segfaults.."
[10:01] <kapinter> siji: I just noticed I have this in dmesg
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.173492] hdmi: Enter HDMI_W1_StopVideoFrame()
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.173522] hdmi: *** Set PHY power mode to 0
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.202758] hdmi: 4000000 hdmi_wp_irqstatus
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.231964] hdmi: 81 hdmi_core_sys_sys_stat
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.290405] hdmi: disconnect,
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.290405] hdmi: Irqenable 66000001
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.290405] hdmi: 0 hpd
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.290405] hdmi: intr=00000000
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.320434] hdmi: 40000000 hdmi_wp_irqstatus
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.349670] hdmi: 81 hdmi_core_sys_sys_stat
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.408081] hdmi: Irqenable 66000001
[10:01] <kapinter> [   28.408081] hdmi: 0 hpd
[10:01] <kapinter> but otherwise nothing suspicious
[10:03] <hell> how can i set more resolutionthan 640x480 on panda with DELL 3008 attached with hdmi?
[10:06] <siji> kapinter, pls pastebin xorg.log
[10:10] <kapinter> siji: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/652321/
[10:17] <siji> kapinter, doubt about "Virtual size is 1680x1050 (pitch 1680)
[10:17] <siji> "
[10:19] <kapinter> siji: good point! :-) I will check it!
[10:21] <siji> kapinter, may you have to set the resolution manually
[10:22] <siji> may maverick is predefined by some specific resolution which is not matching here
[10:33] <nicofs> siji, depending on whether i choose xubuntu or ubuntu-minimal i get segfault or operation not permitted...
[10:33] <siji> nicofs, what are the parameters in ur rootstock ?
[10:34] <siji> nicofs, if you want minimal OS , then add lxde
[10:34] <nicofs> siji, the ones from that guide you gave me...
[10:34] <siji> ok
[10:34] <nicofs> siji, i'd already be happy with cli only and do the rest from within the system...
[10:35] <siji> cool
[10:35] <nicofs> siji, that's why i used ubuntu-minimal... but if even that doesn't work... but maybe it's my host system - i'll try my other pc...
[10:36] <siji> rootstock -f "name"  -l "loginname" -p "password" -i "imagesize" -d "ubuntu_distroname" --seed lxde,openssh,wget
[10:37] <siji> You can add more in seed with coma for adding more packages
[10:37] <nicofs> siji, yes - did that...
[10:37] <siji> ok
[10:38] <nicofs> i always add wget and aptitude...
[10:38] <siji> ok
[10:39] <siji> if you are targeting omap board then  add  linux-omap
[10:40] <nicofs> where do i add linux-omap?
[10:50] <persia> siji: nice work!
[10:59] <kapinter> siji: where can I edit monitor settings? can't find xorg.conf
[11:00] <siji> kapinter, it wont be there
[11:00] <siji> xorg is doing by it's own
[11:00] <siji> so either you have to create xorg.conf file
[11:00] <siji> or add this parameters in bootarg
[11:05] <nicofs> siji, i successfully created an image... let's see if it works on the target device...
[11:05] <siji> great
[11:06] <siji> If qemu-arm-static binary is not there in ur host , it may give some errors
[11:41] <kunguz> How to start X by using rs232 connection of beagleboard?
[12:03] <dmart> kunguz: What filesystem are you using?  If the filesystem contains X and a desktop environment, it will usually start by itself
[12:17] <kunguz> dmart: when I type sudo lxdm it starts but what should I type when I am using rs232
[12:18] <siji> kunguz, sudo /etc/init.d/lxdm start
[12:39] <dmart> siji, kunguz: Sounds plausible to me.  If lxdm uses upstart though, you might neet to type  "sudo start lxdm" instead
[12:45] <siji> dmart, right
[12:46] <CaelThunderwing> ok im new to linux much less Android or ARM devices but is it possible if to at any time use a pure Ubuntu distro for arm on an ARM based tablet ? (ARM9 w/ v5l instruction set)
[13:06] <dmart> CaelThunderwing: The most recent build of Ubuntu that will run on ARMv5 is jaonty (9.04).  If you want something more up-to-date then Debian's armel port might be a better bet.
[13:07] <persia> CaelThunderwing: Yes, for some tablets, but that particular one is ARMv5.  You want to use Debian there.
[13:09] <dmart> CaelThunderwing: either way, you will need to do some manual setup -- I suggest you search the web to see if there are other people tying to achieve similar things with the same hardware.  Someone may already have come up with a recipe for doing it.
[13:10] <CaelThunderwing> how would i go installing it?  for these tablets thers just the wmt_script and FirmwareInstall foldre you copy to SD.
[13:10] <persia> CaelThunderwing: It really depends on the specific hardware and the content of the firmware for the device.
[13:11] <CaelThunderwing> WM8650
[13:11] <CaelThunderwing> device: http://www.ekengroup.com/m009s/
[13:11] <persia> *if* you have a means to update the firmware, you may be able to install crafted firmware that loads linux, which then connects to some filesystem that matches your install.
[13:12] <persia> The other option, that works for some devices, is that the firmware might have some facility for loading the operating system in a well-described way, which instructions you may be able to follow.
[13:13] <persia> We usually advse folk to look for device-specific communities as leaders in finding out *how* to install some linux.  From that, we may be able to help install Ubuntu, but for your device, you will want to run Debian once you can run linux.
[13:19] <CaelThunderwing> atleast when it begins the Flashing process for Android it does load a Form of linux.
[13:20] <persia> Lots of Android devices seem to use fastboot, and expect images that would be generated with abootimg.
[13:20] <lilstevie> android itself is a form of linux :)
[13:20] <persia> Dunno if that would work for your device, or the state of fastboot/abootimg in Debian today.
[13:21] <lilstevie> pretty much all android devices use the fastboot loader fot loading the kernel image at least
[13:21] <lilstevie> the only exception I have seen to that is the non tegra galaxy devices
[13:21] <persia> Indeed.  Android and Ubuntu are just different userspaces for the same class of kernels (although each has some requirements of the kernel that the other doesn't have)
[13:21] <persia> So, it's all "linux" in a very real sense.
[13:22] <lilstevie> :) my flashable image package works :D
[13:23] <persia> Hurrah!
[13:23] <lilstevie> nvflash repartitioning :p
[13:23] <CaelThunderwing> http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/4145/unledpyi.png that sthe content inside the FirmarwInstall Folder.
[13:24] <lilstevie> hmm uboot
[13:35] <CaelThunderwing> any idea lilstevie?