=== issyl0 is now known as Guest65136 === Guest65136 is now known as issyl0 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === Mkaysi_ is now known as Mkaysi [16:00] utlemming: Are you happy to chair? [16:00] Daviey: sure [16:01] \o [16:02] o/ [16:02] utlemming: Are you getting my pm's? [16:02] helo [16:03] o/ [16:03] \o [16:03] #startmeeting [16:03] Meeting started at 11:03. The chair is utlemming. [16:03] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:04] o/ [16:04] [TOPIC] follow up from last meeting [16:04] New Topic: follow up from last meeting [16:04] sommer, j1mc: to look at doc presentation (continued x 2) [16:04] What is the status on the doc presentation? [16:05] And it looks like neither are in...so [16:05] [ACTION] sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation (continued x 3) [16:05] ACTION received: sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation (continued x 3) [16:06] [TOPIC] Oneiric Development [16:06] New Topic: Oneiric Development [16:06] Anyone have any topics here? [16:07] o/ [16:07] Full cycle tracking: - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html [16:07] We seem to be pretty much on target, with: [16:07] Bugs currently being tracked for Oneiric Release: - http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/release-bugs.html [16:07] If there is a bug you are aware of, or currently working on that isn't on that list - please can you raise it here, or with me afterwards. Thanks. [16:07] Sync's/Merges: - http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/server-sid-new.html (We are doing ok! But please be conservative!) [16:08] (boot experience Clint is currently working hard on) [16:08] LXC is expected to catch up at the LXC sprint. [16:08] Anything else to note? [16:08] conservative? [16:08] meaning don't do any more synca than we feel we really need to? [16:09] * hallyn confused [16:10] Daviey: can you clarify for hallyn? [16:11] hallyn: We just need to start stabilising [16:11] We can still break stuff, but there is added presure to resolve. [16:11] Daviey: oh, i was loking at it a bit differently... [16:11] figuring we should sync to the last possible minute in this cycle, [16:11] and be extra-conservative in 12.04 [16:11] agreed [16:12] was particularly hoping not to sync libvirt at all during 12.04 cycle if possible [16:12] hallyn: Well we /can/ do that.. but be more aware of issues it might cause. [16:12] * hallyn nods [16:12] (hallyn, note that next cycle may be syncing from debian testing, rather than unstable) [16:12] ah [16:13] hallyn: I wonder if we can reduce our delta regarding libvirt? [16:13] Daviey: that's not the issue. (well, it's a bear, but not the issue ;) [16:13] That seems to be moving quite fast in Debian, and regular sync would be easier if a smaller delta. [16:14] it's moving fast upstream. [16:14] too fast, imo, to safely track during lts cycle. [16:16] hallyn: agreed, we'll discuss that at UDS [16:16] cool [16:17] fwiw, it does move very fast [16:17] (imo) [16:17] jdstrand: We'll nab you for a session regarding core component versioning session at UDS btw :) [16:17] utlemming: I think we can move on. [16:17] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:17] New Topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:17] Daviey: cool [16:17] * jdstrand quiets down [16:18] Do we have any events this week? [16:19] SpamapS (Clint Byrum) will be speaking at OSCON July 28 [16:19] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:19] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:20] any questions for me? [16:20] otherwise... [16:20] .. [16:21] hggdh: we'll take silence as no questions [16:21] hggdh: None at the moment! [16:21] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:21] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:21] Hi [16:21] Not think there so much updates this week [16:21] one mo [16:22] Found some missing deps for the xen build which zul is taking care of [16:22] Daviey, yes? [16:22] smb / utlemming: Any news on bug #791850 ? [16:22] Launchpad bug 791850 in linux (Ubuntu) "oneiric cluster compute instances do not boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791850 [16:22] Daviey: beat me to the punch there... [16:23] Daviey, Not so much from my side, I was using the comment of Amazon looking to provide data as a SEP field [16:23] There has been some AWS forum activity going with Oneiric -- so we might need to spend some time there. Amazon reports that the instance dies almost immediately. [16:23] utlemming: I assigned it to you, purely as the point of contact - as you were talking to Amazon about it. [16:24] i've got a question regarding Bug #799630 and similar, where DKMS packages are updated against backported kernels and fail. is this kinda stuff supported, especially on LTS? [16:24] Launchpad bug 799630 in drbd8 (Ubuntu) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799630 [16:24] Yes, I've talked with Amazon a couple of times, but haven't made any in roads there yet. [16:24] utlemming: ok.. what can we do to progress this? [16:25] adam_g: dkms should not build a kernel module if it notices the kernel has a >= to what is in the dkms payload. [16:25] I'll work with smb on this -- we'll likely need to get a dump on this or repro this in house [16:26] utlemming: sounds good! [16:26] [ACTION] smb and utlemming to work on Bug #791850 [16:26] ACTION received: smb and utlemming to work on Bug #791850 [16:26] Launchpad bug 791850 in linux (Ubuntu) "oneiric cluster compute instances do not boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791850 [16:26] adam_g, I guess at least for LTS and when providing backported kernels I think it should be taken care of [16:27] Daviey: so that mentioned bug looks more like a packaging issue than anything else? [16:27] adam_g: yes it does, though you'd also have to start updating user-space tools to match the kernel module [16:27] adam_g: can't comment really, first time i've looked at it [16:27] We'll take it out of meeting. [16:27] [ACTION] Daviey and adam_g to address Bug #791850 [16:28] ACTION received: Daviey and adam_g to address Bug #791850 [16:28] Launchpad bug 791850 in linux (Ubuntu) "oneiric cluster compute instances do not boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791850 [16:28] Any other topics for smb? [16:28] Ok. Otherwise I also don't have more. [16:28] drbd is one example, but there are other modules that we maintaind out-of-tree and later merged mainline, but in doing so caused out of tree modules to fail to build against later kernels [16:28] smb: thanks! [16:28] adam_g: Yeah, that sounds like a dkms bug, as it should not build. [16:29] Thankfully, the dkms upstream is a ubuntu developer - we'll jump on him if we get blocked. :) [16:29] Daviey: ok great, ill be happy to look at it with you later [16:29] Daviey, just note that in some cases you only have the dkms module [16:30] yah [16:30] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander) [16:30] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander) [16:31] NCommander: you're up [16:33] Okay, moving on [16:33] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community [16:33] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community [16:34] Any questions or comments to or from our community? [16:34] Moving on then [16:34] [TOPIC] Open Discussion [16:34] New Topic: Open Discussion [16:35] I have nothing to raise. [16:35] * NCommander is here now (sorry, TASP call) [16:36] NCommander: glad to have you join [16:36] Any updates for us? [16:36] Unattended installation with preseeds is now know to work on pandaboard which should help satisfy the requirements of ensebmle [16:37] In addition, heavy QA efforts are underway to make sure common sets of server packages work properly on ARM (such as kerberous, ruby-on-rails, etc.) [16:37] any help with QA testing of any sort would be greatly appericated [16:37] NCommander: Is there docs on using uboot to PXE boot? [16:38] NCommander: Where is the QA effort being co-ordinated? [16:38] Daviey: more like a loose collection of notes, GrueMaster is the expert on this [16:38] Daviey: on two specs in LP [16:38] NCommander: I wonder if you'd be able to ask GrueMaster to document this? [16:38] * NCommander tries to get the links [16:39] Daviey: he probably has it documented, I just haven't been around to poke him about it [16:39] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-arm-image-validation [16:39] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-arm-image-qa [16:39] wiki.ubuntu.com/ArmServer ? [16:39] hallyn: there's a landing page on the wiki but I don't have a link handy [16:40] ah ok [16:40] NCommander: This probably needs to be better vocalised. [16:40] Daviey: the QA bits? [16:40] NCommander: both parts :) [16:40] I'll make a posting on my blog about it, though I'm unsure how many people actually read it :-( [16:41] NCommander: We'll all read it :) [16:41] it will be well recieved. :) [16:41] Thanks NCommander ! [16:41] np [16:43] [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time [16:43] New Topic: Announce next meeting date and time [16:43] Tuesday 2011-08-02 at 1600 UTC here in #ubuntu-meeting [16:43] Thank you everyone and have a good week [16:43] #endmeeting [16:43] Meeting finished at 11:43. [16:44] thanks utlemming [16:44] :) [16:59] o/ [17:00] \o [17:00] # [17:00] # lets "get 'er done"! [17:00] # [17:00] #startmeeting [17:00] Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is bjf. [17:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [17:00] ## [17:00] ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. [17:00] ## [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric [17:00] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:00] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric [17:00] # Meeting Etiquette [17:00] # [17:00] # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. [17:00] # 'o/' indicates you have something you'd like to add (wait until you are recognized) [17:00] # [17:00] [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) [17:00] New Topic: ARM Status (ppisati) [17:00] Oneiric/ti-omap4: finally pushed out the first oneiric 3.0 + TI BSP kernel (3.0.0-1200.2), and there's already a BSP update in the pipe. [17:00] Oneiric/tegra: forward ported/triaged around ~600 patches from 2.6.38 to 3.0 - basically video/ and arch/arm/mach-tegra/, plus some glue functions here and there. The kernel doesn't compile yet. [17:00] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara) [17:01] New Topic: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara) [17:01] === Release Metrics === [17:01] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt [17:01] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt [17:01] ==== oneiric nominated bugs ==== [17:01] * 26 linux kernel bugs (up 6) [17:01] ==== Ubuntu oneiric-alpha-3 bugs ==== [17:01] * 2 linux kernel bugs (up 2) [17:01] ==== -updates bugs ==== [17:01] * 0 oneiric linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 22 natty linux kernel bugs (down 1) [17:01] * 3 maverick linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 7 lucid linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 0 hardy linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:01] === Incoming Bugs === [17:01] * 65 oneiric bugs (up 3) [17:01] * 1425 natty bugs (up 5) [17:01] * 1092 maverick bugs (down 11) [17:01] * 927 lucid bugs (down 41) [17:01] * 32 hardy bugs (down 1) [17:01] === Regressions === [17:01] ==== regression-update bugs ==== [17:01] * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0) [17:01] * 12 natty bugs (up 6) [17:01] * 41 maverick bugs (down 2) [17:01] * 74 lucid bugs (down 8) [17:01] * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:01] ==== regression-release bugs ==== [17:01] * 1 oneiric bugs (up 1) [17:01] * 440 natty bugs (down 4) [17:02] * 242 maverick bugs (no change 0) [17:02] * 208 lucid bugs (down 9) [17:02] * 2 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:02] ==== regression-proposed bugs ==== [17:02] * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0) [17:02] * 2 natty bugs (no change 0) [17:02] * 1 maverick bugs (down 1) [17:02] * 0 lucid bugs (no change 0) [17:02] * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Blueprints: Oneiric Delta Review (ogasawara) [17:02] New Topic: Blueprints: Oneiric Delta Review (ogasawara) [17:02] [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review [17:02] LINK received: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review [17:02] apw, lag, rsalveti: you have work items to review your set of Ubuntu patches. I've pushed these out to Alpha-3 for you. Please take a moment to review when you have a chance. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/KernelOneiricUbuntuDeltaReview for your specific set of patches. Note, these are the only remaining work items for this blueprint. [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara) [17:02] New Topic: Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara) [17:03] Last week we uploaded the 3.0.0-7.8 kernel. This most notably enabled overlayfs as well as rebased to upstream v3.0 final. Alpha-3 is next Thurs, Aug 4th. I intend to upload our final Alpha-3 this Friday, July 29th. If there are any patches that need to land for Alpha-3, get them sent to the kt-ml asap. [17:03] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw) [17:03] New Topic: Status: CVE's (apw) [17:03] === CVE Metrics === [17:03] After hitting 0 CVEs open on all branches but Hardy at the start of the week we have seen, one CVE has resurface and 8 new ones have been added. Luckily a large number of the new CVEs are already fixed in Lucid and later. [17:03] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~apw/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt [17:03] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~apw/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt [17:03] Currently open CVEs for each supported branch: [17:03] || Package || Open || [17:03] || || || [17:03] || linux Hardy || 12 || [17:03] || linux Lucid || 3 || [17:03] || linux Maverick || 3 || [17:03] || linux Natty || 3 || [17:04] || linux Oneiric || 2 || [17:04] || linux-ec2 Lucid || 3 || [17:04] || linux-fsl-imx51 Lucid || 9 || [17:04] || linux-mvl-dove Lucid || 3 || [17:04] || linux-mvl-dove Maverick || 3 || [17:04] || linux-ti-omap4 Maverick || 9 || [17:04] || linux-ti-omap4 Natty || 3 || [17:04] || linux-ti-omap4 Oneiric || 2 || [17:04] || linux-lts-backport-maverick Lucid || 3 || [17:04] || linux-lts-backport-natty Lucid || 3 || [17:04] .. [17:04] [TOPIC] Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin) [17:04] New Topic: Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin) [17:04] ||== Status of kernels == [17:04] || [17:04] || This is kernel verifiation, [17:04] || Kernel status for each series is as follows: [17:04] || [17:04] || * [[http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html|Detailed Information Here]] [17:04] || [17:04] ||=== Hardy === [17:04] || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/812360|Hardy Tracking Bug]] [17:04] || * A new kernel is in -proposed, ready for QA (early) [17:04] || [17:04] ||=== Lucid === [17:04] Ubuntu bug 812360 in linux (Ubuntu) "linux: 2.6.24-29.92 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] [17:05] || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/813507|Lucid Tracking Bug]] [17:05] || * A new kernel was built to include one additional patch, and has completed testing [17:05] || It is ready to be published [17:05] || [17:05] ||=== Maverick === [17:05] Ubuntu bug 813507 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) "linux: 2.6.32-33.71 -proposed tracker" [High,In progress] [17:05] || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/808934|Maverick Tracking Bug]] [17:05] || * Kernel in -proposed from the last cycle is awaiting regression testing. [17:05] || [17:05] ||=== Natty === [17:05] Ubuntu bug 808934 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux: 2.6.35-30.56 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] [17:05] || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/811180|Natty Tracking Bug]] [17:05] || * Verification has begun for this kernel, with two bugs remaining to be verified [17:05] || [17:05] Ubuntu bug 811180 in linux (Ubuntu) "linux: 2.6.38-11.47 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] [17:05] .. [17:05] [TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin) [17:05] New Topic: Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin) [17:05] || [17:05] || Current Kernel versions are always available here: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/versions.html [17:05] || [17:05] || Package || Upd/Sec || Proposed || TiP || Verified || [17:05] || || || || || || [17:05] || hardy linux || 2.6.24-29.91 || 2.6.24-29.92 || 0 || 0 || [17:05] || lucid linux-meta-lts-backport-maverick || 2.6.35.25.36 || 2.6.35.30.38 || 0 || 0 || [17:05] || --- linux-lts-backport-maverick || 2.6.35-25.44~lucid1 || 2.6.35-30.56~lucid1 || 22 || 22 || [17:05] || --- linux-firmware || 1.34.7 || 1.34.10 || 0 || 0 || [17:05] || --- linux || 2.6.32-33.70 || 2.6.32-33.71 || 0 || 0 || [17:05] || maverick linux-firmware || 1.38.6 || 1.38.8 || 1 || 0 || [17:06] || --- linux || 2.6.35-30.54 || 2.6.35-30.56 || 1 || 1 || [17:06] || natty linux-meta-ti-omap4 || || 2.6.38.1209.7 || 0 || 0 || [17:06] || --- linux-backports-modules-2.6.38 || 2.6.38-10.6 || 2.6.38-11.7 || 0 || 0 || [17:06] || --- linux-firmware || || 1.52.1 || 0 || 0 || [17:06] || --- linux || 2.6.38-10.46 || 2.6.38-11.47 || 18 || 16 || [17:06] || --- linux-ti-omap4 || || 2.6.38-1209.13 || 10 || 10 || [17:06] || --- linux-meta || 2.6.38.10.25 || 2.6.38.11.26 || 0 || 0 || [17:06] || [17:06] .. [17:06] [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:06] New Topic: Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:06] thanks everyone [17:06] #endmeeting [17:06] Meeting finished at 12:06. [17:06] thanks [17:06] thanks bjf [17:07] bjf thanks === ArneGoet1e is now known as ArneGoetje === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === TheDaniel0108 is now known as Daniel0108