[01:08] <ChinnoDog> Someone with experience drilling holes into walls: What does it mean when my stud detector goes nuts at many places on the wall?
[01:10] <rmg51> you found many nails?
[01:11] <ChinnoDog> It is the electronic type of stud sensor, not the magentic kind
[01:11] <rmg51> or you have metal studs
[01:11] <ChinnoDog> So, ultrasound
[01:12] <ChinnoDog> If I move it vertically or horizontally it detects high density areas all over the place and also throws errors at other places
[01:12] <rmg51> then you found many studs in one place
[01:13] <ChinnoDog> Doesn't seem possible. They aren't evenly spaced
[01:13] <ChinnoDog> Perhaps I would be better off using a drywall anchor so I don't drill into anything important
[01:14] <rmg51> punch a hole, look in :-D
[01:15] <ChinnoDog> oh. It isn't really relevant. I don't know where my drill bits are
[01:17] <rmg51> still at the store?
[01:18] <ChinnoDog> I am not at the store. I was looking through my box'o screws
[01:19] <rmg51> I was referring to the drill bits
[01:21] <ChinnoDog> ooh. lol
[01:22] <ChinnoDog> No, I have a set somewhere
[01:22] <ChinnoDog> ... in a box
[02:47] <newPAubuntuUSER> no one on should of figured lol
[02:48] <newPAubuntuUSER> oh well try again another time
[02:48] <newPAubuntuUSER> bye
[02:49] <ChinnoDog> hmm
[02:56] <pleia2> strange
[03:04]  * ChinnoDog shrugs
[04:03] <KesjiBihcoh_x> ..
[09:42] <rmg51> morning
[10:17] <InHisName> Yea, rmg51 beat JonathanD up to first morning greeting of the day.
[10:18] <JonathanD> meh
[10:18] <JonathanD> I forgot this channel :P
[10:18] <JonathanD> 09:25:24 <+JonathanD> Morning.
[10:18] <rmg51> shame shame
[10:19] <rmg51> I don't speak utc :-/
[10:25] <JonathanD> I'll give a talk on it next year.
[12:47] <andrew> InHisName: I beg to differ: 01:43:01 < JonathanD> I woke up.
[12:57] <ChinnoDog> morning--
[13:10] <JonathanD> oh, right.
[13:13] <ChinnoDog> People on the metro don't like mornings either. It is silent on the ride in.
[13:15] <InHisName> ChinnoDog: are you insinuating that SEPTA rail folks are noisy?
[13:16] <ChinnoDog> idk. I don't ride SEPTA. Do they talk in the morning?
[13:16] <InHisName> Since their big price jack for surbanites, I haven't been on in months.
[13:18] <InHisName> I did ride subway twice this summer.  Not rush hour.   Few spoke to others.   Lotta equipment noise need to be a foot away to hear.
[13:19] <ChinnoDog> How much does it cost you? I think it is costing me like $4.65 just to come in here in the morning.
[13:19] <ChinnoDog> I forget what the trip back costs.
[13:20] <ChinnoDog> I can save money by coming in late but only a few cents by coming in early
[13:22] <InHisName> Train used to be only that.  Now RUSH price ALL the time.  $6 or $7 each.    Subway is one token, we buy 10 and save some.
[13:23] <ChinnoDog> ouch
[13:23] <JonathanD> needs to go down, not up
[13:23] <JonathanD> get people off the durn roads.
[13:23] <ChinnoDog> I save a few cents each trip because I have a non-disposable metrocard, but that is it
[13:26] <InHisName> Check the unlimited usage monthly pass.  May be way cheaper than 20 round trips, worth it if you travel 5x a week.
[13:27] <InHisName> Plus bonus of travel nights weekends no extra charges.
[13:29] <ChinnoDog> I think I already checked
[13:31] <ChinnoDog> yea, not worth it. The longest they do is 7-day fast pass for $47.
[13:31] <ChinnoDog> Thus far I've been putting $20/wk on my card and haven't run out yet.
[13:33] <ChinnoDog> Only other ways for me to get discounts is to be in primary or secondary school, be a senior, or be disabled. I'm not growing any younger, 32 is too young to pass as a senior, and being disabled does not sound very fun.
[13:34] <InHisName> AND its not 59 or 62 BUT fully 65.   I gotta wait some more too.
[13:36] <InHisName> I am at begining of R2 line at Warminster.   Do you also travel the full length of a line ?
[13:36] <JonathanD> I know I took the train from norristown to conshohocken the other day.
[13:36] <JonathanD> and it was $3 something.
[13:37] <InHisName> Coulda ridden a bicycle on the trail  !     V8 head smack time.
[13:37] <JonathanD> InHisName: need moar tiers.
[13:37] <JonathanD> *tires
[13:37] <JonathanD> also need bike, but thats sort of related.
[13:38] <InHisName> Count in family is 12 bikes.   4 are mine.
[13:38] <JonathanD> InHisName: my bike is in my parents storage unit.
[13:38] <JonathanD> it has 2 dry rotted tires.
[13:39] <ChinnoDog> I have a bike. It needs new tires, and maybe new pedals depending on how much I fear for my life using the current ones
[13:39] <JonathanD> what do bike tires cost anyway?
[13:39] <ChinnoDog> idk
[13:39] <JonathanD> coffee time.
[13:39] <ChinnoDog> I figure after it cools off a bit I will tote it over to the local bike shop and tell them to make it better.
[13:39] <InHisName> Haven't bought any in 22 years.   My stored ones are getting a little dried out now.
[13:40] <ChinnoDog> tires in 22yrs??
[13:40] <InHisName> I paid under $10 back then
[13:40] <ChinnoDog> My tires have slime in them. I am afraid my slime is dried out.
[13:40] <JonathanD> InHisName: so it's probably $50 each by now ;)
[13:41] <InHisName> I had like 20 tires when I got married in 92.  Riding LOTS less with foster parenting.
[13:41] <InHisName> Tires last longer when you ride lots less.
[13:47] <InHisName> Biketiresdirect.com has from $15  up to UGGGHA  $75 (probably only fits on racing bikes)
[13:48] <ChinnoDog> idk how to put tires on myself. Is that difficult?
[13:49] <InHisName> Can be, I can put them on with hands only.  A few tighter ones I resort to using tire irons to help out.   Getting them off is a bit harder.  More usage of irons.
[13:51] <InHisName> So many sizes, styles etc.  Need to be sure you have right one chosen to buy.
[13:51] <ChinnoDog> I think I"ll let the bike shop do it
[13:52] <ChinnoDog> I work on computers. Bike shop can work on my bicycle
[14:22] <jedijf> WOW. why did i wait so long to switch to chrome in the office? *big* difference
[14:23] <jedijf> on my only available option of crappy regular dsl
[14:32] <waltman> I've had to give up on safari on my imac at Drexel. Not only is it slow, but it somehow manages to slow down everything else, too.
[14:35] <jedijf> you know, i have been blaming vmware, but maybe i'll find that ff was doing the same forme
[14:39] <JonathanD> e/73
[14:40] <ChinnoDog> vmware makes a good scapegoat
[14:41] <JonathanD> so does jedijf
[14:41] <JonathanD> jedijf: stop making my computer slow.
[14:43] <teddy-dbear> jedijf: doesn't make computers run slow....
[14:44] <teddy-dbear> he makes them stop running :-D
[14:44] <jedijf> that's called learning
[14:45] <jedijf> i use epiphany mobile, maybe i'll try chrome
[14:54] <ChinnoDog> JonathanD: add more yeast. It works for bread.
[15:14] <jedijf> standing desk hack with milk crates
[15:25] <ChinnoDog> I need to change my legal name into something more unique
[15:37] <JonathanD> like ChinnoDog?
[15:38] <ChinnoDog> No, not that unique. haha
[15:43] <waltman> If I wanted to be pedantic, I'd point out that being unique is like being pregnant, you either are or your aren't.
[15:43] <waltman> s/your/you/
[15:44] <jedijf> i have always thought we shouldall take on our nicks as fictitious names
[15:45] <JonathanD> Works for me.
[15:45] <jedijf> lol. done huh?
[15:45] <JonathanD> Pretty much ;)
[15:47] <ChinnoDog> People only call me ChinnoDog at IRC related events. haha
[15:47] <waltman> People called me waltman before IRC :)
[15:49] <ChinnoDog> Before I was ChinnoDog I was Orion, before I knew there were actual people with that name. And occasionally I was SnowDog as Orion became common on IRC networks.
[16:41] <ChinnoDog> 10 points if you know where "SnowDog" came from.
[16:43] <waltman> The Iditarod?
[16:56] <ChinnoDog> nope
[17:33] <teddy-dbear> maybe the movie Snow Dogs
[18:06] <ChinnoDog> I don't know that movie
[18:07] <ChinnoDog> That movie is from 2002. I was using SnowDog in 1995.
[18:07] <pleia2> typical formulaic disney kids movie
[18:08] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: seen it?
[18:09] <pleia2> I wouldn't say that, it was playing on a tv in a room I happened to be in once
[18:13] <waltman> You had a pet huskie?
[18:13] <waltman> husky?
[18:13] <waltman> You ARE a husky?
[18:14] <ChinnoDog> I had a german shepard for about 3 weeks as a teenager. It liked to take me on walks. Aside from that, never owned a dog.
[18:15] <waltman> Did it like the snow?
[18:16] <ChinnoDog> idk. The 3 weeks were during the summer.
[18:22] <waltman> And that's why you were called SnowDog? Weird.
[18:25] <ChinnoDog> No. Keep guessing.
[18:32] <teddy-dbear> maybe he liked to eat yellow snow ;-)
[18:34] <waltman> It's cockney rhyming slang for quahog?
[19:26] <ChinnoDog> waltman: no
[19:40] <js2day> hey
[19:40] <JonathanD> hi
[19:54] <ChinnoDog> hi js2day
[20:17] <js2day> hey, was afk. new to irc here
[20:17] <JonathanD> welcome jedijf
[20:19] <JonathanD> welcome js2day
[23:48] <ayucuk> help
[23:52]  * ChinnoDog throws ayucuk a life preserver
[23:56] <ChinnoDog> must not be helping
[23:56] <ayucuk> lol
[23:56] <ayucuk> what is a life preserver?
[23:57] <ChinnoDog> The foam rings on a boat you throw into the water to rescue people
[23:57] <ayucuk> i just joined this and i'm trying to figure out how things work, i thought it would show some help, like in the terminal, if i typed in help
[23:57] <ayucuk> ok, why does it look different than regular messages?
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> Results vary based on the client. If you get the help from the server it is pretty much useless
[23:58] <ayucuk> ok
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> oh. Because it is an action
[23:58] <ayucuk> im also looking online
[23:58]  * ChinnoDog slaps ayucuk around a bit with a large trout
[23:58] <ayucuk> haha
[23:58] <ayucuk> yea, how do u write stuff like that?
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> Preface messages with /me to create an action
[23:59]  * ayucuk jumps
[23:59] <ayucuk> ok
[23:59] <ayucuk> i see