[00:00] <wrst> so yaourt makes the package i suppose?
[00:00] <chris4585> yeah something like that
[00:00] <chris4585> aur <3
[00:00] <chris4585> I wish something existed like that for ubuntu...
[00:00] <chris4585> I mean ppas are great but just don't compare to aur / yaurt
[00:00] <wrst> no and I like how they are seperate really from the rest of the system
[00:01] <wrst> on some that might be "suspect"
[00:01] <wrst> and I have been loving not having to worry about release cycles
[00:01] <chris4585> yeah
[02:10] <webjocky> evening folks, anyone alive or JaBoI?
[02:11] <wrst> hey webjocky
[02:11] <wrst> and linuxman410
[02:11] <webjocky> oh wow. response!
[02:11] <linuxman410> wrst how are you
[02:11] <linuxman410> webjocky how r u
[02:12] <webjocky> not too bad - a bit shocked, I/O on IRC isn't what it used to be ;)
[02:12] <wrst> good linuxman410 what you have going on today?
[02:12] <linuxman410> wrst u ever tried zenix os
[02:13] <wrst> no linuxman410 what is it?
[02:13] <linuxman410> http://zenix-os.net/   this one
[02:13] <wrst> webjocky: you may just be here at the wrong time o' day :)
[02:14] <webjocky> might be..
[02:14] <wrst> linuxman410:  that looks super light weight
[02:14] <linuxman410> wrst yeah i know i am downloading it now
[02:15] <wrst> cool
[02:15] <webjocky> so I'm digging through google's massive db searching for a driver or any way to get my eSATA HDD working via 10.04 - to no avail. Was wondering if anybody could lend some advice. It's a Intel Marvell 88E6145 chipset.
[02:15] <linuxman410> wrst all my machines are running lubuntu but one i only have one with the power to run ubuntu
[02:17] <linuxman410> webjocky good luck i have a small form factor pc with marvell nic and it will not work with linux
[02:18] <wrst> the esata the issue webjocky?
[02:19] <webjocky> Doesn't show up in Disk Utility. BIOS sees the drive attached.
[02:19] <webjocky> linuxman: thnx for the encouragement ;) - zenix looks pretty nice
[02:20] <wrst> hmm webjocky I've used eSATA but never had issues
[02:20] <wrst> you using a SATA from your motherboard?
[02:21] <webjocky> yeah, everything I've read says that you have to mount the drive before use (obviously), but that it should just 'show up' under the Places menu.
[02:21] <webjocky> Yes. eSATA & SATA from my mobo: Intel DP55KG
[02:22] <webjocky> also have a 3rd pty RAID card installed - working fine.
[02:22] <wrst> hmm webjocky does sudo fdisk -l show your hard drive?
[02:22]  * webjocky opens terminal to find out
[02:22] <wrst> that will atleast let you know if you are having an issue detecting the hardware or an issue mounting the drive
[02:27] <webjocky> Well darnit, it's not listed.
[02:27] <wrst> hmm well
[02:27] <wrst> don't know what that means :)
[02:28] <wrst> sounds like some part of that equation isn't being detected
[02:28] <wrst> of coruse :)
[02:28] <webjocky> I even got happy for a sec. Saw a 2TB device show up (size I'm looking for) - but then realized it's just my RAID5 (3x1TB drives)...
[02:29] <webjocky> hmm. no secret places to look for crazy drivers? lol
[02:29] <wrst> webjocky: looks like a problem that several have
[02:31] <wrst> webjocky: seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1647245
[02:32] <wrst> points to a solution here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=851588
[02:32] <webjocky> def. not - never occurred to me that ubuntuforums.org might actually have something to do with ubuntu... thnx, reading.
[02:33] <wrst> :D
[02:34] <webjocky> wow. that actually sounds promising. Thanks!
[02:35] <wrst> webjocky: this appears to tell how to do it in ubuntu if you connect the dots:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=681963
[02:36]  * webjocky is skeptical, that looks waaaaay too easy.
[02:40] <wrst> yeah i was thinking the same thing webjocky :)
[02:40] <webjocky> we were right :)
[02:40] <wrst> afraid of that :)
[02:40] <webjocky> I'm running 10.04 Desktop.
[02:40] <webjocky> linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-server = "is not installed"
[02:40] <wrst> should all work out the same on that end of things
[02:40] <wrst> you would have to substitute the kernel you are running
[02:40]  * webjocky shows his n00b
[02:40] <wrst> do a uname -a
[02:41] <wrst> and that will tell you the kernel version
[02:41] <webjocky> tnx for the tip
[02:42] <wrst> wish we had a little more of an expert here than me :)
[02:43] <webjocky> well, you're a step up from me so I'm happy for the moment :D
[02:43] <webjocky> I tried the same command with my kernel version: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.32-33-generic  still says "is not installed"
[02:44] <wrst> i'm a little doubtful about that not for sure what that does looks like a reboot would do the same thing
[02:45] <wrst> hmm don't guess it would because that is taking the kernel modules out
[15:03] <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu: Are you around?
[17:03] <wrst> Xpistos: i'm betting not :)
[17:03] <Xpistos> lol
[17:09] <wrst> how are you doing Xpistos?
[17:10] <Xpistos> working on church website
[17:12] <Xpistos> or church festival website
[17:19] <wrst> ahh free work
[19:06] <wrst> howdy ubuntulo1_
[19:07] <wrst> uhh
[19:07] <wrst> howdy Unit193
[19:11] <Unit193> wrst: Thanks, and howdy!
[19:12] <wrst> Unit193: good day?
[19:15] <Unit193> wrst: Sure. I used telnet for IRC last night :D
[19:15] <wrst> really... telnet? haven't used that in a LONG time :)
[19:17] <Unit193> Doing it for IRC does make it much harder, but doable
[19:18] <wrst> are you just telnetting into a server somewhere or is there more to this than I'm seeing Unit193?
[19:18] <Unit193> telnet irc.freenode.net 667
[19:18] <Unit193> 6667
[19:38] <wrst> ahh really
[19:38] <wrst> hmm
[19:39] <Unit193> You need to respond to IRC server pings and prefix all messages with "privmsg #ubuntu-us-tn :This is my message"
[19:40] <wrst> hmm let me try putty
[19:40] <wrst> i'm on winders Unit193 so tried with the command prompt
[19:40] <Unit193> Nice, putty 0.61?
[19:40] <wrst> .60
[19:41] <wrst> ok found my hostname..
[19:43] <wrst> hmm seem to be having connection issues but good thing to know
[19:43] <Unit193> You gotta be kinda quick
[19:44] <wrst> hmm what do you do when you get tot hat point?
[19:45] <Unit193> :adams.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** No Ident response  ?
[19:46] <wrst> found a tut can't stay connected long enough :)
[19:50] <Unit-Telnet> It worked
[19:51] <wrst> ha ha
[19:51] <Unit193> CAP LS
[19:51] <Unit193> CAP REQ :identify-msg multi-prefix
[19:51] <Unit193> PASS pass
[19:51] <Unit193> USER Unit193 8 * :Unit-Telnet (Telnet)
[19:51] <Unit193> NICK Unit-Telnet
[19:51] <Unit193> CAP END
[19:51] <Unit193> After that, you may want to identify to nickserv
[19:51] <wrst> hmm my connection is quirky here at work let me try that at home
[19:53] <wrst_telnet> hmm
[19:53] <wrst> yep that worked
[19:53] <Unit-Telnet> Not as easy?
[19:53] <wrst> uhh no :)
[19:53] <Unit-Telnet> But it is fun :P
[19:54] <wrst> yes and could be useful
[19:55] <Unit-Telnet> And you would see how it might be hard to stay connected (If you don't pong back, adios)
[19:56] <wrst> ha ha yes
[19:56] <wrst> I like my flashy client Unit193
[19:57] <Unit-Telnet> But can you do that?
[19:58] <Unit-Telnet> I kinda like this in a way, but irssi seems really easy after this :P
[19:58] <wrst> do what? :)
[19:58] <Unit-Telnet> You didn't see my version reply?
[19:58] <wrst> irssi I can handle but I prefer weecaht as far as non gui goes
[19:58] <wrst> hmm
[19:58] <wrst> ahh yes I did :)
[19:59] <Unit-Telnet> Fun? :D
[20:04] <wrst> ha ha yes
[20:04] <wrst> cyberanger: should use that all the times he likes primitive stuff
[20:04] <Unit193> And you can give ctcp replys to people that didn't even request ^_^
[20:05] <Unit-Telnet> He could figure out an easy way to keep it connected too...
[20:06] <wrst> oh yes he is a master of such things
[20:19] <cyberanger> wrst: use what
[20:19] <cyberanger> and primitive, heh, it works, why change
[20:23] <Unit193> cyberanger: Use telnet :P
[20:24] <cyberanger> Unit193: over ssh, why?
[20:25] <Unit193> cyberanger: We were talking about using telnet to connect to freenode directly (As I was doing it)
[20:25] <cyberanger> that's unwise
[20:25] <cyberanger> ah, yeah
[20:25] <cyberanger> a royal pain
[20:26] <cyberanger> (and were you actually using telnet)
[20:26] <Unit193> privmsg ##ubuntu-us-tn :Yes I was
[20:26] <Unit193> We on the same TZ?
[20:27] <cyberanger> lol, was checking resopnse time, not realizing your telnet connection ended
[20:27] <cyberanger> since one can modify version info and such
[20:28] <cyberanger> but if they're doing it by hand, replying to an unexpected ctcp takes time
[20:29] <Unit193> And you can't really get a ping
[20:29] <Unit193> cyberanger: You should have a random ctcp version reply :P
[20:29] <cyberanger> Unit193: random, why?
[20:30] <Unit193> cyberanger: Random because you didn't request one at the time :P
[20:30] <cyberanger> oh, unsolicited, yes
[20:31] <Unit193> :D I don't even remember what it said (It was really late last night...()
[20:31] <cyberanger> doesn't confirm telnet over xchaat
[20:31] <cyberanger> since one can spoof with xchat
[20:31] <Unit193> Hmmm... Didn't know that
[20:31] <cyberanger> hence my ctcp
[20:32] <cyberanger> I think the same goes for irssi too
[20:59] <wrst> hey cyberanger
[21:41] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[23:19] <chris4585> wrst, I just realized packagekit doesn't require password to do anything
[23:19] <chris4585> I really like that
[23:28] <cyberanger> chris4585: mixed blessing
[23:29] <cyberanger> for you, an adept user, sole user of the machine, wise enough
[23:29] <cyberanger> for an office setting, poor
[23:30] <chris4585> cyberanger, yes well I'm sure there is a way to change that, but I lock my computer everytime I walk away from it
[23:30] <cyberanger> yeah, which wouldn't work for an office
[23:30] <chris4585> how many people work in the office with arch and packagekit?
[23:30] <chris4585> lol
[23:31] <chris4585> I'm not sure if fedora's settings are the same for packagekit
[23:31] <chris4585> but I'm starting to like packagekit a lot now
[23:31] <cyberanger> chris4585: in the US, or worldwide
[23:32] <cyberanger> and linux overall, enough
[23:32] <chris4585> worldwide
[23:34] <chris4585> well besides google..
[23:38] <cyberanger> yes, not everyone affords windows
[23:39] <cyberanger> latin america, africa, the middle east & asia
[23:39] <cyberanger> I'm not saying rival microsoft, meerly it is used, and a concern for that fact
[23:44] <wrst> chris4585: yes im guessing some way to set that up?