| Trevinho | jaytaoko: I sent the merge request... | 02:21 |
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| Trevinho | However with latest Nux I can't run compiz... | 02:21 |
| Trevinho | I meant unity.... | 02:23 |
| Trevinho | I guess the problem is one of the most recent changes, since I pull just few new changes and compiz didn't load at all (keeping my CPU at 100%) | 02:24 |
| jaytaoko | Trevinho: I will review your branch with an up to date Nux branch. I will pull all the latest changes to Nux and Unity. | 03:25 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:53 |
| jaytaoko | didrocks: bonjour! | 06:01 |
| didrocks | salut jaytaoko! ça va ? | 06:02 |
| jaytaoko | didrocks: yeah, no problem... | 06:02 |
| jaytaoko | didrocks: but it is time for bed now! cheers | 06:03 |
| didrocks | jaytaoko: have a good night! | 06:04 |
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| MacSlow | greetings | 06:57 |
| oSoMoN | good morning | 07:00 |
| andyrock | good morning | 08:39 |
| apw | am i expecting to have lost ctrl-alt-T as a keybinding in oneiric | 09:01 |
| apw | am i expecting to have lost the Reboot option from the power menu in oneiric | 09:01 |
| ephan | apw, no you're not. I think those maintan | 09:08 |
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| didrocks | apw: reboot will be when dx will implement the new shutdown dialog from design | 09:11 |
| didrocks | apw: ctrl-alt-T is because there is no moe integration and such shortcuts in GNOME3 | 09:11 |
| didrocks | you can still set that manually in ccsm though, in the "gnomecompat" plugin | 09:11 |
| apw | didrocks, you'd think we could have kept the reboot option on the menu till we had the new functionality | 09:12 |
| apw | least supprise and all that | 09:12 |
| didrocks | apw: seems the new indicator-session release landed before that | 09:13 |
| apw | didrocks, or we could have pointed the Shutdown... to the same thing that the power button opens | 09:13 |
| apw | as that has all the options one might want even if its as ugly as an ugly thing | 09:13 |
| didrocks | apw: not sure as you have all the others options there as well, what we really need is the new dialog | 09:14 |
| apw | hmmm, perhaps some coordination then if we arn't going to try and make this thing easy to use for people | 09:15 |
| didrocks | apw: btw, while you are there, I have a recurrent issue (like 50% of the time), having no network at startup, seems to be the iwl3945 river not being correctly loaded. I have to unload it and load it again. There is a bug, but no activity (see dx isn't the only one) | 09:15 |
| didrocks | also, there is this dkms not working with nvidia-current for each kernel upgrade | 09:15 |
| apw | didrocks, binary drivers luckily arn't my problem :) | 09:16 |
| apw | didrocks, whats the bug number for the iwl problem | 09:16 |
| didrocks | apw: you are quite lucky. However, dkms not being executed is, isn't it? | 09:16 |
| seb128 | apw, it's only an unstable cycle and it's not like it was hard to restart | 09:16 |
| apw | didrocks, not being run would be indeed | 09:16 |
| didrocks | and rebooting without any graphic isn't nice for our user, that's the kinf of transition user are list as well :) | 09:17 |
| seb128 | apw, log out and restart from the login screen, or switch to a vt and ctrl-alt-del | 09:17 |
| apw | seb128, i don't have any working buttons on my login screen, i am told i'll get those back eventually | 09:17 |
| seb128 | apw, should be fixed with yesterday's update | 09:17 |
| apw | didrocks, whats the bug number for the dkms not running one | 09:17 |
| seb128 | works for me at least | 09:17 |
| apw | seb128, cool i'll do more updating | 09:18 |
| didrocks | apw: not sure about the dkms, I didn't report it, let me look for the wifi driver one first | 09:18 |
| didrocks | apw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/803815 | 09:19 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 803815 in linux (Ubuntu) "[iwl3945] direct probe timeout" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:19 |
| RAOF | didrocks, apw: You're looking for bug #812979 | 09:19 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 812979 in dkms (Ubuntu) "Kernel modules are not built when the kernel is upgraded" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812979 | 09:19 |
| didrocks | RAOF: thanks :) | 09:20 |
| apw | RAOF, ahh so that was a dkms issue? new kernel version number the cause ? | 09:21 |
| RAOF | apw: No. It doesn't try to parse the kernel version number, it just totally ignores it. | 09:21 |
| RAOF | So you say ‘build me the module for 3.0.0-7-generic’ and it happily goes ahead and says ‘I see you're running 3.0.0-6-generic, and the nvidia-current module is already built for that kernel. My work here is (silently!) done!” | 09:22 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure how it was ever supposed to work; presumably someone did something that was frightfully clever recently and accidentally broke it. | 09:23 |
| ephan | So if I got it, GNOME 3 does not support shortcuts? | 09:28 |
| ephan | I'm probably confused, as this can't be right | 09:28 |
| didrocks | ephan: there is no shortcut you can tweak in g-c-c, so no way to integrate and such them in compiz | 09:29 |
| ephan | ah I see didrocks | 09:30 |
| ephan | I personally haven't tried the Alpha 2 to check for bugs, but I feel like I have to | 09:31 |
| ephan | in a few days | 09:31 |
| apw | RAOF, heh that is top quality, glad it gotten fixed, might explain the random failures of it we have had in the past too | 09:45 |
| snadge | that could explain why i've had to manually force dkms rebuilds | 09:54 |
| snadge | id also like to randomly say .. good job for improving the linux desktop with some much overdue changes, and actually doing it, despite the overlap problems with gnome etc | 10:08 |
| apw | didrocks, next time you hit this iwl3945 problem could you just rmmod the driver and re-modprobe it, it should not be necessary to restart nm if this is a driver issue; i do this with a problem brcm device often | 10:19 |
| didrocks | apw: oh ok, will try that | 10:19 |
| didrocks | apw: it appeared with -3 I would say | 10:19 |
| andyrock | njpatel, around? | 10:59 |
| njpatel | andyrock, hey | 11:02 |
| andyrock | njpatel, i was reading dood tweet about eject/safely remove stuff | 11:03 |
| njpatel | yep | 11:03 |
| andyrock | njpatel, for safely remove we use g_drive_stop and we use also the GAsyncReadyCallback | 11:04 |
| njpatel | right | 11:04 |
| andyrock | but the GAsyncReadyCallback is not useful since we don't read the result of the operation :) | 11:04 |
| njpatel | andyrock, that's fine, we can just not send it then :) | 11:05 |
| andyrock | so, we don't need the GAsyncReadyCallback and we can remove it? | 11:06 |
| andyrock | njpatel, or we can make it useful adding logging information... | 11:06 |
| njpatel | andyrock, logging information would be good | 11:07 |
| njpatel | andyrock, is it done inside the device-icon or the devices manager? | 11:08 |
| andyrock | njpatel, P.S.: according to me "eject" item for usb drives is a gnome bug | 11:08 |
| andyrock | njpatel, device-icon | 11:08 |
| njpatel | ah, nice | 11:08 |
| njpatel | andyrock, okay, makes sense | 11:08 |
| andyrock | njpatel, you want port devices manager (and favorites one) into unity core? | 11:09 |
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| njpatel | andyrock, hmm, not sure what unity-2d use | 11:11 |
| njpatel | andyrock, i'm not sure they use gio at all | 11:12 |
| njpatel | andyrock, favorites store would be good, yes | 11:12 |
| njpatel | andyrock, also, having another look at the favourites store tests would be good, maybe porting to the gtest suite | 11:12 |
| andyrock | nerochiaro, gtest suite? | 11:13 |
| andyrock | njpatel, ^^^ | 11:14 |
| andyrock | nerochiaro, sorry :) | 11:14 |
| nerochiaro | andyrock: no problem | 11:14 |
| njpatel | andyrock, yeah, the test-gtest binary that uses google test instead of glibtest | 11:15 |
| andyrock | njpatel, ok ok | 11:15 |
| njpatel | andyrock, (see any of my mere proposals that are pending for how to do it) | 11:15 |
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| h_ | hi there | 14:33 |
| ephan | hey h_ | 14:35 |
| h_ | hi ephan, dont know if this is the place to ask but..... | 14:36 |
| h_ | do you have any experience on writing appindicators for Natty? | 14:36 |
| ephan | For Natty? No | 14:36 |
| ephan | Only for the good old gnome-panel | 14:37 |
| h_ | ok | 14:37 |
| h_ | anyways, do you know if it was possible to display other gtk widgets than a classic dropdown menu? | 14:38 |
| h_ | like buttons, maybe a container box, etc | 14:39 |
| h_ | because it seems that it's not possible in Natty | 14:39 |
| ephan | If it isn't and you'd like it, go to launchpad.net and add that to the wishlist in Unity or Ubuntu (not sure on which one) | 14:40 |
| ephan | But I do not know if you can | 14:40 |
| h_ | ok | 14:41 |
| h_ | and one more question, what is ayatana ? | 14:42 |
| ephan | The Ayatana Project is the collective project that houses user interface, design and interaction projects started by Canonical. | 14:44 |
| ephan | https://launchpad.net/ayatana More information there | 14:44 |
| h_ | good | 14:46 |
| h_ | ephan, how to i access any of this irc channels http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels#GNOME_Software_Development? | 14:51 |
| ephan | h_, not sure if that question should be posed in this channel. Nevertheless, I'll answer you. Those servers are irc.gnome.org. #ayatana is on FreeNode. You need a new server tab and connect to irc.gnome.org. | 14:52 |
| h_ | thanks | 14:54 |
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| c10ud | so, oneiric features a new messaging menu or whatever, is there some docs about it? | 19:04 |
| c10ud | thanks :D | 19:04 |
| c10ud | (people have been asking emesene support, i guess you changed something from natty...) | 19:05 |
| jcastro | c10ud: I think the -me menu stuff was just merged with the messaging menu | 19:14 |
| jcastro | afaik you don't need to do anything | 19:14 |
| jcastro | tedg: right? | 19:14 |
| c10ud | i really hope people at least tried before opening the bug :p | 19:14 |
| jcastro | heh, or ask them to try to reproduce it | 19:15 |
| c10ud | they even posted a screenshot .p | 19:15 |
| jcastro | link? | 19:15 |
| tedg | c10ud, I ported over the old code, but I didn't test it. | 19:15 |
| c10ud | sure, sec | 19:15 |
| tedg | c10ud, It might be that the module isn't loaded, the different backends are loadable now. | 19:15 |
| jcastro | maybe it's a bug | 19:16 |
| c10ud | tedg, out of curiosity, any reason on why the thing can't be done backwards (?) i mean, memenu throws a signal and apps behave accordingly | 19:16 |
| jcastro | because ted knows that if we were going to force every app author to update their apps (again), that I would kill him. | 19:16 |
| c10ud | yeah well i mean like...when it was engineered | 19:16 |
| tedg | c10ud, Well, you can just the telepathy-mission-control to get that... it sends all those signal. | 19:17 |
| c10ud | anyway, jcastro: https://github.com/emesene/emesene/issues/745 | 19:17 |
| tedg | c10ud, I don't remember, but I think that the gnome-session interface does as well. Though, I'm not sure if we're tied into that yet. | 19:17 |
| c10ud | i see, it just came up to my mind when i suddenly remembered ubuntu code was modified to support emesene as well | 19:17 |
| jcastro | who ported it the first time around, was it cando? | 19:18 |
| c10ud | iirc, yes | 19:18 |
| tedg | This is the new package: indicator-status-provider-emesene | 19:21 |
| c10ud | thank you, so basically we just have to tell our ubuntu packagers to add a dep on that | 19:21 |
| jcastro | oh that's easy, that's not even an emesene issue | 19:22 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: heya, can you put this on the desktop team volunteer queue? | 19:22 |
| tedg | No, if you guys want, you can pull that code into emesne so that it gets maintained there. | 19:22 |
| tedg | Not sure what makes sense, but it doesn't have to be in the indicator source anymore. | 19:22 |
| c10ud | mh, i don't know how it is done, but we wanted to rel a new version this month and we were trying to put support for oneiric | 19:23 |
| c10ud | src is some c-lib i guess? | 19:24 |
| tedg | c10ud, Yup, one file though. | 19:24 |
| c10ud | well, for oneiric i'll just ask our debian packager to put some hard dep on the already-avail package, then we'll see, maybe we could do it backwards in future, who knows :p | 19:25 |
| c10ud | thanks for the fast replies tedg jcastro | 19:25 |
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| jcastro | rock. | 19:26 |
| jcastro | c10ud: is the package maintained in ubuntu or just synced from debian, do you know? | 19:26 |
| c10ud | no idea, last thing i remember about it is cando patching the memenu and the patch being accepted upstream | 19:26 |
| c10ud | (i'm still with lucid :p) | 19:27 |
| jcastro | ok if I see cando around I'll holla at him | 19:27 |
| jcastro | but I suspect fixing it in debian will just require a sync from our end and we'll be good to go | 19:28 |
| c10ud | jcastro, i think you meant emesene package, not indicator-*-emesene | 19:30 |
| c10ud | if that's the case, i don't know, sometimes i got the ubuntu package sooner than debian | 19:31 |
| c10ud | but i know for sure who the debian packager is (devfil) so i'll take care of it | 19:31 |
| c10ud | thanks again | 19:32 |
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| ephan | Ubuntu 11.04 Dash, how to force it to hide? | 20:30 |
| ephan | It just won't hide | 20:31 |
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| jcastro | Trevinho: heh, someone was complaining about the chromium bug again | 21:06 |
| ephan | which bug jcastro ? | 21:12 |
| czajkowski | the fact it eats memory | 21:14 |
| Trevinho | jcastro: who? :) | 21:19 |
| Trevinho | jcastro: who? :) | 21:19 |
| jcastro | it was on the omg post for the last unity report | 21:19 |
| jcastro | do you have any new information to add? | 21:19 |
| Trevinho | However If I've enough time before leaving for the holideys I'd like to work on that too | 21:19 |
| jcastro | I basically was like "yeah, we know" | 21:19 |
| Trevinho | The right answwer was: we fixed, but then DBO reverted it not to fix a side-effect seg-fault :D | 21:20 |
| Trevinho | lol | 21:20 |
| Trevinho | No, really we'd like to get a proper fix for chromium again | 21:20 |
| Trevinho | I should ask them in google code to change something that they changed for us | 21:21 |
| DBO | ? | 21:21 |
| DBO | what? | 21:21 |
| DBO | the chromium thing is currently unmerged? | 21:21 |
| Trevinho | DBO: just jocking.... | 21:21 |
| DBO | im confused | 21:21 |
| * DBO goes back to his corner | 21:21 | |
| Trevinho | It was, but you had to revert something which lead to a segfault | 21:21 |
| Trevinho | There's something that must be fixed properly | 21:22 |
| Trevinho | However jcastro the main issue is related to the fact that libwnck that we use doesn't give us all the wm_class informations we need | 21:22 |
| Trevinho | I've already sent to their bugzilla a patch to fix this, but they only reviewed and I'm still waiting for the merge | 21:22 |
| DBO | Trevinho, do you want I to just write you a X call instead? | 21:23 |
| Trevinho | so I guess we should use a temporary X call | 21:23 |
| DBO | I dont mind us using raw X calls | 21:23 |
| DBO | yes | 21:23 |
| Trevinho | I already done that | 21:23 |
| Trevinho | (but in my private branch) | 21:23 |
| Trevinho | So, this is not a problem... | 21:23 |
| Trevinho | However since we didn't get the proper informations by chromium, we asked them to wrongly use the WM_CLASS | 21:24 |
| Trevinho | and so now they use this parameter in a non-standard way | 21:24 |
| Trevinho | and we should ask them to revert what they've done... | 21:25 |
| ephan | By the way guys, do we have an option for the time the dash takes to appear, so how quickly it pops out? | 21:26 |
| ephan | jcastro, you're the one who made the new Alt+TAB right? either way my question is, do you speak portuguese? | 22:20 |
| RAOF | DBO: Oh! Was that dash bug the same problem as Jay's clipping thingy on older radeons? | 23:03 |
| DBO | RAOF, which clipping thingy? | 23:04 |
| DBO | where only the background and maybe one icon would show? | 23:04 |
| DBO | yes | 23:04 |
| DBO | that bug | 23:04 |
| RAOF | Oh, hurray! | 23:04 |
| DBO | as I was working on the blur effect | 23:05 |
| DBO | it just became clear what was happening | 23:05 |
| DBO | so hows your back? | 23:05 |
| RAOF | Annoying. | 23:06 |
| RAOF | Even more so because it happened while I was sleeping. What the hell! | 23:07 |
| DBO | i've done that | 23:08 |
| DBO | I've also done it picking up a towel | 23:09 |
| DBO | and attempting to jump into a pair of pants (I deserved that one) | 23:09 |
| RAOF | Sorry? *Jump* into a pair of pants? | 23:10 |
| DBO | yeah you know | 23:10 |
| DBO | hold the pair of pants with two arms | 23:11 |
| DBO | lift both legs off the ground | 23:11 |
| DBO | land with pants on | 23:11 |
| RAOF | No. No, I don't know. | 23:11 |
| DBO | you cant tell me you were never curious as a kid to know if it were possible | 23:11 |
| DBO | well I figure, Im an adult now, and I get to decide what mature means to me | 23:11 |
| RAOF | I am curious about many things, but whether or not I can jump into pants has never been one of them. | 23:11 |
| DBO | long story short | 23:11 |
| DBO | no, you cannot easily jump into a pair of pants | 23:12 |
| RAOF | Not the winner that it so clearly appeared to be? :) | 23:12 |
| DBO | no, it's not a big time saver actually | 23:13 |
| DBO | in fact you'll probably spend the better part of the day wondering if you back could possibly hurt more | 23:14 |
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