[02:21] jaytaoko: I sent the merge request... [02:21] However with latest Nux I can't run compiz... [02:23] I meant unity.... [02:24] I guess the problem is one of the most recent changes, since I pull just few new changes and compiz didn't load at all (keeping my CPU at 100%) [03:25] Trevinho: I will review your branch with an up to date Nux branch. I will pull all the latest changes to Nux and Unity. [05:53] good morning [06:01] didrocks: bonjour! [06:02] salut jaytaoko! ça va ? [06:02] didrocks: yeah, no problem... [06:03] didrocks: but it is time for bed now! cheers [06:04] jaytaoko: have a good night! === troy_s is now known as troy_sleep [06:57] greetings [07:00] good morning [08:39] good morning [09:01] am i expecting to have lost ctrl-alt-T as a keybinding in oneiric [09:01] am i expecting to have lost the Reboot option from the power menu in oneiric [09:08] apw, no you're not. I think those maintan === daker_ is now known as daker [09:11] apw: reboot will be when dx will implement the new shutdown dialog from design [09:11] apw: ctrl-alt-T is because there is no moe integration and such shortcuts in GNOME3 [09:11] you can still set that manually in ccsm though, in the "gnomecompat" plugin [09:12] didrocks, you'd think we could have kept the reboot option on the menu till we had the new functionality [09:12] least supprise and all that [09:13] apw: seems the new indicator-session release landed before that [09:13] didrocks, or we could have pointed the Shutdown... to the same thing that the power button opens [09:13] as that has all the options one might want even if its as ugly as an ugly thing [09:14] apw: not sure as you have all the others options there as well, what we really need is the new dialog [09:15] hmmm, perhaps some coordination then if we arn't going to try and make this thing easy to use for people [09:15] apw: btw, while you are there, I have a recurrent issue (like 50% of the time), having no network at startup, seems to be the iwl3945 river not being correctly loaded. I have to unload it and load it again. There is a bug, but no activity (see dx isn't the only one) [09:15] also, there is this dkms not working with nvidia-current for each kernel upgrade [09:16] didrocks, binary drivers luckily arn't my problem :) [09:16] didrocks, whats the bug number for the iwl problem [09:16] apw: you are quite lucky. However, dkms not being executed is, isn't it? [09:16] apw, it's only an unstable cycle and it's not like it was hard to restart [09:16] didrocks, not being run would be indeed [09:17] and rebooting without any graphic isn't nice for our user, that's the kinf of transition user are list as well :) [09:17] apw, log out and restart from the login screen, or switch to a vt and ctrl-alt-del [09:17] seb128, i don't have any working buttons on my login screen, i am told i'll get those back eventually [09:17] apw, should be fixed with yesterday's update [09:17] didrocks, whats the bug number for the dkms not running one [09:17] works for me at least [09:18] seb128, cool i'll do more updating [09:18] apw: not sure about the dkms, I didn't report it, let me look for the wifi driver one first [09:19] apw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/803815 [09:19] Ubuntu bug 803815 in linux (Ubuntu) "[iwl3945] direct probe timeout" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:19] didrocks, apw: You're looking for bug #812979 [09:19] Launchpad bug 812979 in dkms (Ubuntu) "Kernel modules are not built when the kernel is upgraded" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812979 [09:20] RAOF: thanks :) [09:21] RAOF, ahh so that was a dkms issue? new kernel version number the cause ? [09:21] apw: No. It doesn't try to parse the kernel version number, it just totally ignores it. [09:22] So you say ‘build me the module for 3.0.0-7-generic’ and it happily goes ahead and says ‘I see you're running 3.0.0-6-generic, and the nvidia-current module is already built for that kernel. My work here is (silently!) done!” [09:23] I'm not sure how it was ever supposed to work; presumably someone did something that was frightfully clever recently and accidentally broke it. [09:28] So if I got it, GNOME 3 does not support shortcuts? [09:28] I'm probably confused, as this can't be right [09:29] ephan: there is no shortcut you can tweak in g-c-c, so no way to integrate and such them in compiz [09:30] ah I see didrocks [09:31] I personally haven't tried the Alpha 2 to check for bugs, but I feel like I have to [09:31] in a few days [09:45] RAOF, heh that is top quality, glad it gotten fixed, might explain the random failures of it we have had in the past too [09:54] that could explain why i've had to manually force dkms rebuilds [10:08] id also like to randomly say .. good job for improving the linux desktop with some much overdue changes, and actually doing it, despite the overlap problems with gnome etc [10:19] didrocks, next time you hit this iwl3945 problem could you just rmmod the driver and re-modprobe it, it should not be necessary to restart nm if this is a driver issue; i do this with a problem brcm device often [10:19] apw: oh ok, will try that [10:19] apw: it appeared with -3 I would say [10:59] njpatel, around? [11:02] andyrock, hey [11:03] njpatel, i was reading dood tweet about eject/safely remove stuff [11:03] yep [11:04] njpatel, for safely remove we use g_drive_stop and we use also the GAsyncReadyCallback [11:04] right [11:04] but the GAsyncReadyCallback is not useful since we don't read the result of the operation :) [11:05] andyrock, that's fine, we can just not send it then :) [11:06] so, we don't need the GAsyncReadyCallback and we can remove it? [11:06] njpatel, or we can make it useful adding logging information... [11:07] andyrock, logging information would be good [11:08] andyrock, is it done inside the device-icon or the devices manager? [11:08] njpatel, P.S.: according to me "eject" item for usb drives is a gnome bug [11:08] njpatel, device-icon [11:08] ah, nice [11:08] andyrock, okay, makes sense [11:09] njpatel, you want port devices manager (and favorites one) into unity core? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:11] andyrock, hmm, not sure what unity-2d use [11:12] andyrock, i'm not sure they use gio at all [11:12] andyrock, favorites store would be good, yes [11:12] andyrock, also, having another look at the favourites store tests would be good, maybe porting to the gtest suite [11:13] nerochiaro, gtest suite? [11:14] njpatel, ^^^ [11:14] nerochiaro, sorry :) [11:14] andyrock: no problem [11:15] andyrock, yeah, the test-gtest binary that uses google test instead of glibtest [11:15] njpatel, ok ok [11:15] andyrock, (see any of my mere proposals that are pending for how to do it) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === troy_sleep is now known as troy_s [14:33] hi there [14:35] hey h_ [14:36] hi ephan, dont know if this is the place to ask but..... [14:36] do you have any experience on writing appindicators for Natty? [14:36] For Natty? No [14:37] Only for the good old gnome-panel [14:37] ok [14:38] anyways, do you know if it was possible to display other gtk widgets than a classic dropdown menu? [14:39] like buttons, maybe a container box, etc [14:39] because it seems that it's not possible in Natty [14:40] If it isn't and you'd like it, go to launchpad.net and add that to the wishlist in Unity or Ubuntu (not sure on which one) [14:40] But I do not know if you can [14:41] ok [14:42] and one more question, what is ayatana ? [14:44] The Ayatana Project is the collective project that houses user interface, design and interaction projects started by Canonical. [14:44] https://launchpad.net/ayatana More information there [14:46] good [14:51] ephan, how to i access any of this irc channels http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels#GNOME_Software_Development? [14:52] h_, not sure if that question should be posed in this channel. Nevertheless, I'll answer you. Those servers are irc.gnome.org. #ayatana is on FreeNode. You need a new server tab and connect to irc.gnome.org. [14:54] thanks === racarr_ is now known as racarr === racarr_ is now known as racarr === gord is now known as Guest20890 === daker is now known as daker_ === Guest20890 is now known as gord [19:04] so, oneiric features a new messaging menu or whatever, is there some docs about it? [19:04] thanks :D [19:05] (people have been asking emesene support, i guess you changed something from natty...) [19:14] c10ud: I think the -me menu stuff was just merged with the messaging menu [19:14] afaik you don't need to do anything [19:14] tedg: right? [19:14] i really hope people at least tried before opening the bug :p [19:15] heh, or ask them to try to reproduce it [19:15] they even posted a screenshot .p [19:15] link? [19:15] c10ud, I ported over the old code, but I didn't test it. [19:15] sure, sec [19:15] c10ud, It might be that the module isn't loaded, the different backends are loadable now. [19:16] maybe it's a bug [19:16] tedg, out of curiosity, any reason on why the thing can't be done backwards (?) i mean, memenu throws a signal and apps behave accordingly [19:16] because ted knows that if we were going to force every app author to update their apps (again), that I would kill him. [19:16] yeah well i mean like...when it was engineered [19:17] c10ud, Well, you can just the telepathy-mission-control to get that... it sends all those signal. [19:17] anyway, jcastro: https://github.com/emesene/emesene/issues/745 [19:17] c10ud, I don't remember, but I think that the gnome-session interface does as well. Though, I'm not sure if we're tied into that yet. [19:17] i see, it just came up to my mind when i suddenly remembered ubuntu code was modified to support emesene as well [19:18] who ported it the first time around, was it cando? [19:18] iirc, yes [19:21] This is the new package: indicator-status-provider-emesene [19:21] thank you, so basically we just have to tell our ubuntu packagers to add a dep on that [19:22] oh that's easy, that's not even an emesene issue [19:22] kenvandine: heya, can you put this on the desktop team volunteer queue? [19:22] No, if you guys want, you can pull that code into emesne so that it gets maintained there. [19:22] Not sure what makes sense, but it doesn't have to be in the indicator source anymore. [19:23] mh, i don't know how it is done, but we wanted to rel a new version this month and we were trying to put support for oneiric [19:24] src is some c-lib i guess? [19:24] c10ud, Yup, one file though. [19:25] well, for oneiric i'll just ask our debian packager to put some hard dep on the already-avail package, then we'll see, maybe we could do it backwards in future, who knows :p [19:25] thanks for the fast replies tedg jcastro === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [19:26] rock. [19:26] c10ud: is the package maintained in ubuntu or just synced from debian, do you know? [19:26] no idea, last thing i remember about it is cando patching the memenu and the patch being accepted upstream [19:27] (i'm still with lucid :p) [19:27] ok if I see cando around I'll holla at him [19:28] but I suspect fixing it in debian will just require a sync from our end and we'll be good to go [19:30] jcastro, i think you meant emesene package, not indicator-*-emesene [19:31] if that's the case, i don't know, sometimes i got the ubuntu package sooner than debian [19:31] but i know for sure who the debian packager is (devfil) so i'll take care of it [19:32] thanks again === zyga-afk is now known as zyga [20:30] Ubuntu 11.04 Dash, how to force it to hide? [20:31] It just won't hide === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:06] Trevinho: heh, someone was complaining about the chromium bug again [21:12] which bug jcastro ? [21:14] the fact it eats memory [21:19] jcastro: who? :) [21:19] jcastro: who? :) [21:19] it was on the omg post for the last unity report [21:19] do you have any new information to add? [21:19] However If I've enough time before leaving for the holideys I'd like to work on that too [21:19] I basically was like "yeah, we know" [21:20] The right answwer was: we fixed, but then DBO reverted it not to fix a side-effect seg-fault :D [21:20] lol [21:20] No, really we'd like to get a proper fix for chromium again [21:21] I should ask them in google code to change something that they changed for us [21:21] ? [21:21] what? [21:21] the chromium thing is currently unmerged? [21:21] DBO: just jocking.... [21:21] im confused [21:21] * DBO goes back to his corner [21:21] It was, but you had to revert something which lead to a segfault [21:22] There's something that must be fixed properly [21:22] However jcastro the main issue is related to the fact that libwnck that we use doesn't give us all the wm_class informations we need [21:22] I've already sent to their bugzilla a patch to fix this, but they only reviewed and I'm still waiting for the merge [21:23] Trevinho, do you want I to just write you a X call instead? [21:23] so I guess we should use a temporary X call [21:23] I dont mind us using raw X calls [21:23] yes [21:23] I already done that [21:23] (but in my private branch) [21:23] So, this is not a problem... [21:24] However since we didn't get the proper informations by chromium, we asked them to wrongly use the WM_CLASS [21:24] and so now they use this parameter in a non-standard way [21:25] and we should ask them to revert what they've done... [21:26] By the way guys, do we have an option for the time the dash takes to appear, so how quickly it pops out? [22:20] jcastro, you're the one who made the new Alt+TAB right? either way my question is, do you speak portuguese? [23:03] DBO: Oh! Was that dash bug the same problem as Jay's clipping thingy on older radeons? [23:04] RAOF, which clipping thingy? [23:04] where only the background and maybe one icon would show? [23:04] yes [23:04] that bug [23:04] Oh, hurray! [23:05] as I was working on the blur effect [23:05] it just became clear what was happening [23:05] so hows your back? [23:06] Annoying. [23:07] Even more so because it happened while I was sleeping. What the hell! [23:08] i've done that [23:09] I've also done it picking up a towel [23:09] and attempting to jump into a pair of pants (I deserved that one) [23:10] Sorry? *Jump* into a pair of pants? [23:10] yeah you know [23:11] hold the pair of pants with two arms [23:11] lift both legs off the ground [23:11] land with pants on [23:11] No. No, I don't know. [23:11] you cant tell me you were never curious as a kid to know if it were possible [23:11] well I figure, Im an adult now, and I get to decide what mature means to me [23:11] I am curious about many things, but whether or not I can jump into pants has never been one of them. [23:11] long story short [23:12] no, you cannot easily jump into a pair of pants [23:12] Not the winner that it so clearly appeared to be? :) [23:13] no, it's not a big time saver actually [23:14] in fact you'll probably spend the better part of the day wondering if you back could possibly hurt more