[02:13] yofel: s-c-p? No, works for me, but I have 4.6.2. [08:42] morning [09:20] KDE 4.7 just hit ftp.kde.org :) [09:20] when can we expect Kubuntu packages? [09:20] * markey wants to demo it at the Release Party on Saturday [09:20] "later this year" (;) [09:21] -EFAIL [09:21] oneiric packages are pretty much done, natty needs more people doing the backporting [09:21] see packaging link in the /topic [09:22] * markey is using Natty [09:23] btw, Oneiric is the worst name so far. just when you though it couldn't get any worse [09:23] * yofel just calls it O usually [09:23] reminds me of something I do in front of the PC [09:23] lol [09:23] Shuttleworth screwed that up for good [09:24] well, on the good side, he can't do much worse for P :P [09:24] I don't even know what it means, I think that's usually a good sign (; [09:24] I wouldn't be so sure [09:24] yofel: Purverted Penguins? [09:24] Porn Pimp [09:25] sorry, no animal located on that [09:25] does he still choose the names by himself? [09:25] he does [09:25] or is that design-by-committee [09:25] oh yeah, it shows [09:25] taste is something he never had [09:26] bah, sabdfl wasn't here ): [09:26] I don't care, tbh [09:26] I've told him straight to his face that he makes bad decisions [09:27] could tell you some funny insider stories about Qt and Shuttleworth [09:27] but I won't. [09:29] Good morning [09:29] morning Quintasan [09:30] markey: Pretentious Penguin :P [09:30] can you please not use something harder to write than oneiric? [09:31] :D [09:31] Did I mention that UDS-P should be in Poland? [09:31] preposterous penguin ): [09:31] pouty penguin [09:32] Was there Ubuntu A? [09:32] Anarchist Anaconda :O [09:32] no, they started with warty and then went with breezy [09:32] Anal Assapes [09:32] :O [09:32] let's skip W ^^ [09:33] me be playin games now [09:33] hey! [09:33] how about, we make Kubuntu the official KDE distro, and get rid of the Shuttleworth BS [09:33] do backports [09:33] ok, then the SUSE nerds would be pissed [09:33] :/ [09:34] Let me de-brain myself, k yofel? [09:34] lol, have fun [09:34] markey: lol ok [09:34] someone teach not-installed syntax to shadeslayer -.- [09:34] :D [09:35] shadeslayer: ^^ [09:35] it's ./usr/lib/librocslib.so, not -./usr/lib/librocslib.so [09:35] wrap-and-sort++ [09:35] +1 [09:35] :%s/-/ [09:36] and you are done [09:36] that's what I did :P [09:36] regexp++ [09:36] vim++ [09:36] kubotu: karma c [09:36] karma for c: 236 [09:36] heh [09:36] ~karma c++ [09:36] karma for c++: 3 [09:36] c++++ [09:37] ~karma _++ [09:37] _++ has neutral karma [09:37] derp [09:37] ~karma c++ [09:37] karma for c++: 4 [09:37] :O [09:37] ~karma c [09:37] karma for c: 238 [09:37] lol, asking for c++ karma adds to c ^^ [09:37] ~karma c [09:37] karma for c: 239 [09:37] it also bumps C's karma?! [09:38] even funnier [09:38] apachelogger: kubotu can't count [09:39] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/rocs] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control not-installed) New upstream release, fix not-installed syntax [09:40] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/step] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release [09:40] k, O done except mono insanity [09:41] ah, and kstars [09:43] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/svgpart] Philip Muškovac * 20 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release [09:58] yofel: I was wondering if its possible to automate backporting [10:00] well, theoretically yes [10:00] all you need is a new changelog entry, downgrade boost depends, rebuild, update symbols, sign, upload [10:02] wait, new symbols? [10:02] dont we already have symbols updated? [10:03] no, MISSING symbols, since gcc 4.6 adds new ones that aren't there with 4.5 [10:03] and some of the packages don't have -c0 [10:03] eh [10:04] although most packages don't have symbol files, so those don't need a build [10:08] Hmm [10:09] * yofel rather needs to figure out how to automate build of -dbg packages without -dbg being in control [10:17] * yofel backports redland and hopes nothing breaks === jussi01_ is now known as jussi [12:32] ftbfs for pykde4 -> wrong soprano version ? [12:32] "error: 'maintainedBy' is not a member of 'Soprano::Vocabulary::NAO' " [12:32] " error: 'Agent' is not a member of 'Soprano::Vocabulary::NAO' " [12:59] Any reason not to start uploading 4.7.0 to oneiric? [13:00] apachelogger, JontheEchidna, debfx, Quintasan, who else? [13:03] * ScottK starts with kde4libs [13:13] Done [13:14] Ideally we'll let that build and then start on the rest. [13:19] don't forget meta-kde [13:20] Depwait due to a LP buildd bug anyway. [13:27] Fixing [13:31] OK. Let's see how that does. [13:33] debfx: I need to focus on $WORK for awhile, so feel free to jump in and start uploading. [13:36] dstrowatch is saying 4.7 is out? [13:37] but looks like they were released early? timestamp in stable is 7/22? [13:38] muntiKubu: It's normal for them to roll the tarballs early for private testing and so packagers can work on them. [13:38] We've just started uploading 4.7.0 to oneiric. [13:38] ScottK: that's great news! meaning yofel is now done with packaging? :) [13:39] It wasn't just yofel, but yes. It's done for oneiric. [13:39] I know..just teasing [13:41] ScottK: but they aren't showing up yet in oneiric? [13:41] muntiKubu: No. Just started. [13:41] It takes time to get them all uploaded and compiled. [13:43] it must have been very stable as only see runtime updated since 7/22? [14:15] hehehe 8 minutes -> 22 kills :D [14:15] * bambee is on fire [14:26] MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDIC [14:27] * Quintasan goes to backports [14:27] Quintasan: playing tf2 were you? :P [14:27] DOCTOR! [14:27] yofel: i didn't know that [14:27] Quintasan: i'll finish the tf2 download tonight probably [14:28] want to play in a couple of hours? i'm a newb at it [14:28] As in "I finish the download so I ask for a beatin'?" [14:28] :P [14:28] sure :P [14:28] MEEEEDIC [14:28] ScottK: When are we going to upload 4.7.0? [14:29] you don't want to hear what that sounds like to me [14:29] Quintasan: I uploaded libs already. [14:29] yofel: dude, you finished soprano? [14:29] ScottK: Okay, I will start uploading soon [14:31] yofel: before copying the packages to the staging ppa, we need to fix the versioning on gmp and raptor2 [14:31] shadeslayer: Heavy has the best voice [14:31] really [14:31] :D [14:31] who's 'Heavy' ? [14:31] Quintasan: you'll need to teach me this stuff :P [14:31] One of the class in TF [14:32] heavy is a spy [14:32] nevar played TF2 ... i've only heard that its awesome [14:32] shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OsF0O5vd1s [14:32] re [14:32] bambee: I might have uploaded that before soprano was built [14:33] shadeslayer: I pushed that so we can continue working, but right, redland stuff needs a recheck [14:34] yeah [14:34] Quintasan: lol [14:34] Today is a good day to be Spy [14:35] arrfff everyone plays to tf2 here... I am the only one who plays to urban terror :( [14:35] * yofel actually downloaded tf2 once, never got to really play it [14:35] bambee: i don't play it ... yet [14:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQFgI0qYqTI&feature=related [14:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXFCII94V1Q&feature=related [14:36] lol [14:36] OH GOD [14:36] * yofel plays minecraft :P [14:36] Quintasan: is that a BSOD ? :D [14:36] yes [14:37] lol, nice bsod :D [14:37] I recommend the movies at http://www.youtube.com/user/teamfortress [14:38] i've seen the medic video [14:39] lol, even the cat made it into the video [14:39] Now...let's go practice medicine! [14:40] :D [14:43] yofel actually downloaded tf2 once, never got to really play it <-- it's time to change that :P [14:43] a) we have other things to do b) I'll try it once I've finished planning and building a fortress in minecraft ;) [14:47] tf2 doesn't really have fortresses except on 2fort but no one plays that. so no need for b) :) [14:47] * bambee tries tf2 [14:55] MEEEEEEEEEEEDIC [14:56] Quintasan: kde4libs 4.7.0 will be available to build against in ~50 minutes for i386 and amd64. I'd go ahead with the meta-kde upload and then start with the rest in ~an hour. [14:57] ScottK: Mmkay [14:57] ScottK: how do I build packages for oneiric on your arm machine? [14:57] ScottK: I've already uploaded meta-kde [14:57] Ah. Cool. [14:57] debfx: pbuilder-dist oneiric build file.dsc [14:58] (I'd update first though) [14:58] I think we set defaults to use a standard tarball. [14:58] If not there's one in /home you can copy into your $USER/pbuilder [15:06] btw for some reason DEBBUILDOPTS="-j15" in my pbuiderrc doesn't seem to work [15:06] i see all the load being dumped on one core [15:07] shadeslayer: Y U REPLACE ME AT KDEADMIN [15:07] also [15:07] what [15:07] -j15 stopped working here too [15:07] kdeadmin was empty [15:07] I just uplaoded it [15:07] uh ... for natty? [15:07] y [15:07] * shadeslayer waves fist at his trackpad [15:08] Quintasan: my vad [15:08] bleh [15:08] *bad [15:08] How do we fix BUILDOPTS [15:08] still works for me... [15:11] libktorrent-dev (>= 1.1) but it is not going to be installed. [15:11] shadeslayer: backport ktorrent [15:12] kwilldo [15:12] doing wallpapers first [15:13] or i'll just multitask [15:20] Quintasan: you need ktorrent from oneiric right? [15:21] libktorrent-dev (>= 1.1) [15:21] arrrff steam fails :'( [15:22] ok [15:22] bambee: steam fails? [15:22] shadeslayer: when I try to install steam, I get an error "VGUI_Setup failed" [15:23] (I use playonlinux) [15:24] shadeslayer: it sucks, if I cannot install steam, I won't kill you! :P [15:25] hahahah :P [15:25] and won't kill Quintasan :( [15:25] :'( [15:25] :D [15:25] bambee: here's the fun part, the OS X installer had a shell script which looks like it provides support for linux [15:25] come to berlin and do it yourself ;P [15:25] or make him install steam for you [15:27] shadeslayer: you play on steam via OS X? [15:28] yus [15:32] http://paste.kde.org/102367 [15:32] How nice [15:34] shadeslayer: ping me when KTorrent is backported to ninjas [15:34] sure [15:35] its going to take some time, because right now i'm capped at 600 kbps [15:35] about 30 minutes or so [15:36] yofel: Any idea how should we deal with libkexiv2-dev? [15:36] We have 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1 in natty, nothing in ppa and we need 4.7.0 [15:36] i was going to ask the same thing [15:37] kdeartwork needs it as well [15:37] plasma-addons too [15:38] libexiv2 is FTBFS. haven't looked at it [15:38] *libkexiv2 [15:38] :| [15:38] This means rest stuff has to wait until it's done [15:38] God damn it [15:39] Where the hell is exactly libkexiv stored? [15:40] also has missing symbols [15:41] What has missing symbols? [15:41] libexiv2 [15:41] :/ [15:44] This makes me unhappy [15:47] since i couldn't find anything else wrong with kdeartwork, i'll blame libexiv2-dev http://paste.ubuntu.com/653185/ [15:48] wait what : Depends: kde-workspace-dev (>= 4:4.6.80) which is a virtual package. [15:49] oh derp [15:50] wrong pbuilder etc [15:51] ok, now to wait on libexiv : kde-sc-dev-latest: Breaks: libkexiv2-dev (< 4:4.7.0) but 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed. [15:51] ScottK: do you have an idea what this error is about? g++: fatal error: -fuse-linker-plugin, but liblto_plugin.so not found [15:53] gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabi is installed? [15:53] * ScottK looks at pimlibs [15:54] no, not installed [15:55] Quintasan: update your pbuilder with new rc file [15:55] the flags worked after i did that [15:55] Then you're missing that. Not sure why. [15:55] * Quintasan tries libkexiv [15:56] debfx: If libkexiv2 has missing symbols should I use X-Debian-ABI? [15:56] ScottK: isn't that package only used for cross compiling? [15:56] Is it? [15:56] Not sure. [15:57] /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/cmake/DebianABIManager.cmake:16: *** missing separator. Stop. [15:57] wtf [15:57] Quintasan: depends on the symbols, I hope they didn't break ABI between rc1 and final [15:57] wait, we are talking about NATTY backports [15:58] Yes we are [15:58] most of the missing symbols are due to gcc 4.6 -> 4.5 change [15:58] ScottK: "This package contains C cross-compiler for armel architecture." and it's only available for i386 and amd64 [15:58] Hmm. [15:58] No idea then. [15:58] Quintasan: uploaded libktorrent, will upload ktorrent after it builds [16:00] if no symbols from _before_ 4.6.80 are missing you should be fine [16:00] pimlibs uploaded. [16:02] ScottK: seems to be an icecc bug [16:04] * bambee is wondering if apachelogger can be kill at tf2... is he immortal? [16:04] killed* [16:05] debfx: Interesting. [16:05] * ScottK looks over at apachelogger then. [16:05] I not be here [16:05] #MISSING: 4:4.7.0# (optional=templinst)_ZNSsC2IPcEET_S1_RKSaIcE@Base 4:4.6.3 [16:05] OH GREAT [16:07] apachelogger is probably in pornon land [16:08] yofel: If I kick away the symbols it builds [16:08] The question is, are those 4.6.3 symbols safe to remove [16:09] wait [16:09] libkexiv2 is backported [16:09] @_@ [16:10] well yeah, but FTBFS (that symbol issue I guess) [16:22] yofel: Can you kick the symbols out? [16:23] sure, lemme fetch the buildlog [16:24] I do not think we will have brekage but well, it will need testing [16:25] not quite sure either what's up with those 4.6.3 symbols [16:26] kick them out and we will find out :P [16:26] up [16:28] building kdenetwork [16:31] Quintasan: yofel http://i.imgur.com/YIKlu.png [16:34] :O [16:34] * debfx pushes kubuntu-update-symbols script to kubuntu-dev-tools [16:34] * yofel notes debfx hasn't filled out his doodle poll :P [16:35] oh right, forgot about that, sorry [16:35] yofel: What's the link? [16:36] yofel: today at 7 PM CET is fine :D [16:36] ScottK: http://www.doodle.com/8qqp944fzt3vfy9a [16:37] debfx: Thanks. [16:37] lol [16:37] let's wait for jonathan at least, so far friday looks good [16:40] Assuming the timezone is what the web site claimed, I'm set. [16:40] Quintasan: ktorrent uploaded to ninjas as well, is libexiv2 fixed yet? [16:41] I did enable time zone support IIRC [16:41] shadeslayer: yofel will know about exiv [16:41] ok [16:41] still building [16:45] shadeslayer: fixed (i386 still building) [16:46] \o/ [16:46] * ScottK looks at libkdeedu [16:50] kdenetwork uploaded [16:52] libkdeedu uploaded. [16:53] yofel: friday is fine with me, let's hope JontheEchidna isn't busy playing video games ;) [16:53] heh [16:55] i can attend friday too ... to watch the grilling :> [16:55] ScottK: can you look at smoke? smokegen should be fine, smoke(qt|kde) has copyright information from the authors in debian/copyright that isn't in the package [16:56] shadeslayer: don't expect me to lend you popcorn though :P [16:56] yofel: Is it uploaded somewhere? [16:56] ninjas [16:56] and bzr [16:56] yofel: i'll get my own then :P [16:59] wheeee ... unscheduled sync from debian [17:01] I could also apply for "kubuntu-packagers" membership (ie, lp:~kubuntu-packagers) at the next meeting? or it's too earlier ? [17:03] it would avoid to yofel to merge my work everytime :p [17:04] yofel: I'd ask pino where he got the copyright info and to commit the changes upstream. [17:04] just apply for kubuntu-member, you've been around for a while. Start by setting up a wiki page in any case [17:04] bambee: You should apply for kubuntu-member. [17:06] ScottK: I mailed dpalacio since he added that - response: "From git history. I pointed this issue to Richard Dale on IRC some days agotelling him this information should be in the distributed tarball." [17:06] haven't heard back yet so I'll poke again [17:06] OK. [17:07] yofel: I don't think that needs to block upload. [17:07] Looking at libkipi [17:07] did anyone upload the new libindi and the one other driver in the ppa? [17:07] k, thanks [17:11] libkipi uploaded. [17:12] ScottK: seriously? [17:12] :D [17:12] kubuntu-member is great too hehe :D [17:13] bambee: You've contributed plenty. It'll get you access to the branches. You need to do it for kubuntu-dev anyway. [17:13] :) [17:13] ok ;) [17:17] * bambee is reading https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Membership for more details [17:23] * ScottK looks at kde-runtime [17:24] Anyone else who can is welcome to start uploading stuff. [17:32] ScottK: Is there anything to do about libinfinity's unintended sync earlier today? If I'm not mistaken, it will break kobby and libqinfinity. [17:32] We could revert the change. [17:33] Alright, I'll ask Phil Kern if he minds having his library bumped back to an earlier version. Otherwise, kobby and libqinfinity will either need to be patched or removed. [17:38] ScottK: Uploading workspace [17:38] OK. [17:41] kde-runtime uploaded [17:43] ScottK: workspace has to wait for pimlibs [17:44] what's being uploaded? [17:44] or what are the ninjas up to today? [17:44] LaserJock: 4.7.0 to oneiric [17:45] oh, awesome [17:45] wtf [17:45] I thought maybe you were fixing the LP sync oops [17:45] Quintasan: Should be there now for i386 and amd64. [17:46] retrying [17:47] Quintasan: kde-baseapps doesn't need to wait on anything. [17:47] (except on armel, almost everything on armel is going to have to be retried) [17:47] The question is, is the tarball over 30mb? [17:48] iirc no [17:48] -rw-r--r-- 1 ftpadmin packager 2470107 Jul 22 15:25 kde-baseapps-4.7.0.tar.bz2 [17:48] baseapps is 2.4M [17:49] ScottK: When asking me to upload please consider anything over 30mb will take ages :P [17:49] ffs [17:49] OK. [17:49] What's wrong with pbuilder [17:49] Quintasan: I'll do oxygen-icons then. [17:49] * Quintasan looks at kde-baseapps [17:55] Oxygen-icons is 373MB. [17:59] kde-baseapps uploaded [18:08] oxygen-icons uploading (and it will be for a while) [18:08] debfx: nice script :D [18:09] ScottK: that was quick..now have 4.7 . thanks for all your hard work. I know you do much more than yofel..:) [18:09] muntiKubu: You only have part of it. We're still uploading it. There will be an announcement when it's all there. [18:10] no offense yofel.. [18:12] * yofel fetches a konqi statue and runs after muntiKubu [18:12] :P [18:14] how do I get the source for dolphin? I need to add call to reload when a folder is opened [18:15] once it's uploaded with apt-get source dolphin [18:16] yofel: great..thanks. does kubuntu has git repos? [18:17] muntiKubu: we use bzr, see apt-cache showsrc for the locations [18:18] any plan to move to git? [18:19] launchpad doesn't support anything else except bzr, so moving to git would probably mean moving to alioth [18:19] yofel : is 4.7 available for natty yet ? [18:19] ejat: no, see link in topic - tomorrow I hope [18:20] ok … already looking at it .. thanks … [18:23] ok. thanks to all Kubuntu devs for the great job today (and tomorrow as well ) [18:23] ScottK: Alright, we've concluded that it's kobby and libqinfinity that should go. Do I need to file a bug report or can you do it directly? I'm considering having the two removed from Debian as well. [18:23] uploading kde-workspace [18:24] ryanakca: File a bug. [18:24] Quintasan: I thought you did already. [18:24] I'm not uploading before test building and pbuilder just finished it [18:24] OK. [18:24] Upstream has been unresponsive (ignoring emails while still actively commiting to his other projects) and they've been broken in Debian for 3.5 months without anybody complaining. [18:25] Sounds reasonable. [18:32] a wiki page like following is good ? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RomainPerier [18:36] looks fine on first glance [18:36] longer than mine actually ^^ [18:36] I've a lot of list items ^^ [18:36] probably for that... [18:37] and you used more spacing, which isn't bad actually ^^ [18:39] kde-workspace uploaded [18:39] it does make the page look a bit stretched though [18:39] but the content is more important, and that looks ok [18:42] ScottK: Bug #817161 [18:42] Launchpad bug 817161 in libqinfinity (Ubuntu) "Please remove libqinfinity, kobby from Oneiric" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/817161 [18:43] <_Groo_> yofel: ping [18:43] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [18:43] pong [18:43] <_Groo_> yofel: hey hey :) [18:44] <_Groo_> yofel: since im too busy this month to help with 4.7, the least i can do is test the 4.7 in ninjas and report/fix whatever i find :) [18:44] ryanakca: Acked. [18:44] <_Groo_> yofel: so as soon as the packages complete, im gonna update my natty and ill get back to you with what i find :) [18:44] _Groo_: you /could/ debug kcm_synaptiks [18:44] <_Groo_> yofel: whats wrong with it? [18:45]