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draikI'm going to install the nVidia driver from the official site. Maybe that's what will make the difference with audio management on the nvidia card.00:03
draikWell, it was worth a shot.00:23
szaldraik: what's the nVidia _graphics_ driver got to do w/ _audio_ ?00:24
szaldraik: nVidia soundsystems usually run on snd_intel8x0 kernel driver (AC97) or snd_hda_intel (HD Audio); there used to be a proprietary driver, but that was ditched years ago00:25
draikszal: It was worth a try. Oddly, the driver from nVidia couldn't compile.00:26
szaldraik: what's the issue anyway?00:27
draikszal: I can't get audio via HDMI from Firefox or Pandora. VLC works just fine.00:28
szaldraik: are you sure the signal from FF/Pandora gets routed to the HDMI output?  check playback streams in KMix or pavucontrol when playing audio00:29
draikNope. Not using HDMI00:30
draikALSA plug-in [Pandora]00:30
szaliow, compare what output device VLC uses w/ what FF/Pandora use and adjust for FF/Pandora accordingly00:31
draikHow do I adjust FF and Pandora. That's what I've been trying to do.00:32
szalright-click stream in KMix -> Move -> select output device00:34
draikMove is greyed out00:36
szaland in VLC it isn't?00:38
szalor, rather, for VLC00:38
draikVLC -> Tools -> Preferences -> Audio00:39
draikI have that set to HDMI hw:0,700:40
szalthat circumvents Pulse; I doubt that browsers have such an elaborate way to select audio output00:40
szalthe only workaround i could think of here is setting that device as default audio device in Systemsettings00:42
draikI've played with every option in System Settings > Multimedia and still no go00:44
draikCoJaBo: szal: IT WORKS!!! One small setting off in Pavucontrol. Wasn't obvious, but obviously it was trivial. Thank you for your help.01:28
draikTo top it off, it works better than in the past. I couldn't play Pandora and Firefox/YouTube at the same time. Now I can without having to kill one app off.01:29
draikDid I mention, THANK YOU01:29
szalI knew that pavucontrol would be good for something..  helped me locate my microphone device the other week ^^01:31
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dpeachI ran out of disk space and now X won't start. I have deleted files but df still says I have no space available. Any suggestions?02:34
dpeachI can log into command line. Just not X02:34
dpeachIt is like I am deleting files, but they aren't going anywhere.02:35
dpeachhello zenman02:39
lolcatdpeach: Delete a bigger file?02:39
dpeachlolcat: I have deleted gigabytes worth of files, but it still says I have 0 free space.02:39
dpeachlolcat: It is like it has a tmp directory that isn't flushing.02:40
lolcatWHOw do you delete files?02:40
dpeachcd to the directory that holds the files I want to get rid of then do an: rm filename02:41
lolcattried rm -r?02:43
dpeachyes, I do that when I am deleting directories.02:43
lolcator a reboot to flush /tmp?02:43
dpeachrebooted several times.02:43
lolcatchecked where all the space is used?02:44
dpeachmostly in my home folder.02:44
dpeachI knew I was getting low on space, but was trying to do a bit for bit copy of a flash drive that I thought would be smaller than the space I had available. During the copy my system got wonky...02:45
dpeach... then I had to cnt-alt-del to reboot the system. After that I can't start X. The reason is that it says my keyboard map isn't properly set up....02:46
dpeach... doing more research I found that others had the same issue when their hard drive was full.02:46
dpeachSo I started checking around and my hard drive was full. Deleted tons of files and it still says 0 available.02:47
zenmandpeach: how did you do the bit by bit copy? What was the command you used?02:48
dpeachzenman: I don't know if it was actually a bit by bit copy, but I was using photorec.02:49
zenmansince I missed the beginning of this, excuse me if you've already been asked but: what happened to the files you tried to recover? Did you delete them as well?02:51
dpeachNo, I have not deleted them because I was afraid of possibly loosing them too.02:51
dpeachI can try that. I didn't know how many chances I might have with this flash memory to get the files off.02:52
zenmanWell it might be something else, but I was just curious. Can you check to see how much room the directory containing those files is using?02:53
dpeachhmm, how do I check directory size? I can check individual files. ls -la isn't giving me the directory size with contents.02:55
zenmanYou can try to find the total amount using "du -ch" (the -c does the total, and -h makes it "human readable")02:57
zenmanso "du -ch directory"02:57
dpeach11GB02:57
zenmanand what does "df -h" show?02:57
dpeachIt was a 16 GB flash drive.02:58
dpeachdf -h says: /dev/sda3 230 G (size) 219G (used) 0 (avail) 100% (use%)02:59
zenmanWow, just reading that makes my head want to explode. Your disk may need to be checked for errors.03:00
dpeachIf I had room to possibly run a program, I could check it for errors. :-)03:01
dpeachI have been able to run lynx for a short time before the /tmp file fills up and lynx shuts down.03:01
zenmanHeh ok let me see what I can dig up...03:02
dpeachthanks for any help you can give zenman and lolcat03:03
zenmanOk, what is the output when you run this command: "tune2fs -l /dev/sda3"03:07
dpeachuh...you want me to type all that?03:08
dpeachanything specific you are looking for in here?03:08
zenmanOh right sorry03:08
zenmanyeah "Reserved block count" and "Block size"03:08
dpeachReserved block count: 304991903:09
dpeachBlock size: 409603:09
zenmanThat explains it03:10
* dpeach is scared.03:10
zenmanthe filesystem's reserved about 12GiB or so03:10
dpeachIs that a good 'explains' or a bad 'explains'?03:11
zenman219+12 = 231GB (so just about the sholw partiton)03:11
zenmanwhole*03:11
zenmanIt's good, because that's fixable03:11
dpeachHow can I free up 12 GB if it won't delete anything?03:11
dpeachwhew!03:11
zenmanLuckily, there's a command for that!03:11
dpeachYou made my stomach sink and made me excited all in about 30 seconds.03:11
zenmantune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda303:11
zenmanSorry! Text doesn't convey emotion very well, sadly03:12
zenmanOh that's a zero, btw, not a capital "o"03:12
dpeachok. done03:12
zenmanBasically, that makes the fs reserve 0 blocks, so now you can reboot or whatever and all should be well03:13
dpeachok. Here goes.03:13
* dpeach with fingers crossed.03:13
dpeachShould I set it back to the way it was if this works and I get things cleaned up?03:13
zenmanIt should be fine without that, but I guess you can always try. The argument to m is a percentage, by the way. Don't try to give it the exact number of blocks, in case you do try to set it yourself03:15
dpeachStill won't start X, but it does say I have 11G avail when doing df -h03:15
zenmanHave you got separate partitions for your home and root?03:15
dpeachno, not anymore.03:16
dpeachI did for a couple of years, but the last time I rebuilt this system I got tired of fighting for the right amount of space in each.03:16
zenmanIts all on one partition? Hm... I can't see why it wouldn't start then...03:16
zenmanRight, common problem03:16
zenmanAny error messages saying it can't start? Or it simply doesn't start?03:17
dpeachI just did a sudo startx and it looks like it might work.03:17
dpeachIt kept jumping back to the login screen.03:17
dpeachThis has gotten me in and started.03:17
dpeachStill booting into X, but it looks like it is working fine.03:18
zenmanYou03:18
zenmanYou03:18
zenmanYou're good? Great!03:18
zenman(sorry about that,...enter key)03:18
dpeachlooks like it.03:18
dpeachIs it any problem to leave what we did alone and not put it back? (the tune2fs command?)03:19
zenmanNah shouldn't be03:20
dpeachalright, then I will leave it as it is.03:20
zenmanIn case you ever do feel like setting it back, the manpage says the default is 5 percent03:20
zenmanBut yeah probably more trouble than it's worth03:20
dpeachThanks zenman! I let my friend take his card back and got him set up with the photorec software on his Mac. Maybe he will get all the files off of it.03:21
dpeachI really appreciate it.03:21
zenmanNo problem. Glad you're back in.03:21
dpeachTried doing a backup the other day (first time in a few months) and my software was not acting right. So I ignored it. Believe me, this experience has made me eager to figure out what isn't working and get it fixed.03:24
SnooffyI've installed kubuntu beside win7, on separate partitions, I have never touched the win partitions in any way (only mounted it and copied a few bits out of there) but now my win7 won't boot. I can see the menu of the system in the GRUB menu, but when I choose it, the screen goes black and than the PC restarts.... Any ideas? Could the MBR of win7 have been broken from GRUB as it was loaded to the same partition as W7 used to boot fro03:25
dpeachSnooffy: has your win7 partition booted any since you installed Linux? Or, it has never booted since you installed Linux?03:26
Brian_Whi, I'm having some issues with cairo-dock03:58
Brian_Wit was working fine, but now it is displaying some weird color spectrum in a box where the cairo dock usually resides03:59
Brian_Wit goes away when I move the cursor to make the dock visible, but when the dock goes invisible, the spectral box comes back03:59
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Snooffydpeach it booted after I've installed Kubuntu04:33
wildgoose!classic > wildgoose04:35
ubottuwildgoose, please see my private message04:35
LinkmasterDoes anyone know of a screen recorder that will also record sound? Preferably KDE, but doesn't have to be04:48
LinkmasterWhen I mean by sound, I mean internal. Not from a speaker, the sounds that youtube would be making for instance, but being able to turn my mic off and still record the sound04:48
ussher__i just installed plasma-widget-toggle-compositing via apt-get, but i cant find it.  how do i turn on this widget?06:35
ssfdre38hey would it be wise to install kubuntu in dual-boon on ubuntu?07:07
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BatzyHey07:48
BatzyI'm having problems connecting to my wireless network07:48
BatzyIn that, I can't do it07:48
BatzyAnyone in?07:50
Batzy..07:50
Batzyhulllooo07:51
Batzysimion314: help me out?07:52
Batzyeveryone is afk and I'd appreciate some help :(07:52
BatzyOH COME ON07:52
Batzywhat the fuck07:53
James147!details | Batzy07:56
ubottuBatzy: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:56
James147!wait | Batzy07:56
ubottuBatzy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.07:56
BatzyThere's really not much detail08:02
BatzyIt just won't connect08:02
Batzykubuntu 11.0408:02
BatzyI click the KDE network administration08:03
BatzyTry to connect to my network using a WEP passphrase08:03
Batzyand it just doesn't connect08:03
Batzyit keeps popping the window up again though08:03
James147Batzy: You could at least tell us what encryption you are using... or any other details specific to your set up08:03
BatzyI just told you08:03
BatzyWEP08:03
Batzypassphrase08:03
James147(sorry wasent reading while i was typing :) )08:04
Batzyty for answering though08:04
James147Batzy: short answer: use wpa... it works much better and isnt broken08:04
Batzy>implying it supports wpa08:04
Batzyhow can I just connect using WEP?08:05
James147Batzy: most things do...08:05
BatzyMy arch linux machine I'm on now seems to be connecting fine08:05
Batzyand my windows machine did too08:05
dmn_hello08:05
BatzyMeaning, it's not WEP that's the problem08:05
Batzybut the OS08:05
dmn_grub menu cannot detect my ubuntu installation..08:06
dmn_only the memtest+ appear08:06
BatzyAnd it's like, why should I need to go install WPA when it should be able to use WEP08:06
Batzythe wireless network tool says it can use wep, it should work, no?08:06
James147Batzy: the kde network manager has some problems detecting the settings for wep (at least the last time i tried) try changing the "Authentication" option (from open system to shared key) then try chaning the key type08:06
dmn_what should i do?08:06
James147Batzy: it can work... its just wep is horribly broken... and shouldnt really be used anymore08:07
BatzyJames147: I tried that08:07
dmn_before this happen, I was reinstall my grub...08:07
James147!grub2 | dmn_08:08
ubottudmn_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)08:08
dmn_James147 : my grub version is 1.99~rc-13ubuntu308:09
James147dmn_: thats grub208:10
dmn_owh, okay..08:10
BatzyJames147: does kubuntu come with some no PoS software out of the box so I can get this working properly?08:11
dmn_James147: the grub is still in there but just my ubuntu partition entry is missing..08:11
James147Batzy: deleting and reconfiguring the network might help... if not you could try the gnome network manager applet08:11
James147Batzy: PoS?08:12
BatzyJames147: does it come with the gnome manager?08:12
BatzyPoS = piece of shit08:12
James147Batzy: not out of the box... but you can install it easaly from the repos08:13
James147Batzy: "network-manager-gnome" << should be in that package the applet is called nm-applet08:14
BatzyJames147: im not connected on that machine08:14
BatzyI just did network interface infortmation, only see the loop back08:14
James147Batzy: then download the deb (and any missing dependancies) on a nother computer then transfer and install them08:15
James147Batzy: or try connecting via command line08:15
BatzyJames147: how? and like I said, it sees no wlan0 interface08:16
BatzyIll brb08:16
Batzyi have another wireless device08:16
James147Batzy: where do you not see a wlan0 interface?08:18
dmn_can i reinstall linux image using live cd to the ubuntu partition??08:38
krisehello, can anybody help me to get right klick working on my laptop HP Probook 4520s08:50
whitystudent09:02
altinncan anyone please tell me how to configure this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"09:48
areichmanaltinn: you know that's the right command, you just need to know how to run it?09:48
altinnareichman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11089527#post1108952709:49
altinnI keep getting this error09:49
altinnI tried his command but that doesnt work09:49
areichmanI don't know what you mean by configure it09:50
areichmanit's just something that sound run09:50
areichmanshould*09:50
yofelaltinn: that's 'dpkg --configure -a', not reconfigure09:51
yofelalso, it seems lzma or xz isn't installed "/usr/sbin/update-initramfs: 20: lzma: not found"09:51
altinnbut yofel that isnt working it shows me the same error09:51
areichmanthanks yofel, I thought it looked  weird...09:51
yofeltry 'sudo apt-get install -f'09:52
altinni did so many times now09:52
yofelsudo apt-get install xz09:52
yofelor rather sudo apt-get install lzma09:53
altinnReading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package xz09:53
yofelthen try lzma09:53
altinnok this one working09:54
altinninstalling...09:54
altinn_ok yofel installed id09:56
yofelnow try --configure again09:56
altinn_however in the end again the same error but the lzma is installed09:56
yofelcan you pastebin the errors?09:56
yofel!paste09:56
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:56
altinn_yofel: here is what it shows now after --configure -a http://pastebin.com/ys7d4fiy09:57
altinn_noe error(1) in the end\09:58
yofelwhat the hell, now it's "lzma: Encoder error: -2147467259"09:58
yofelo.O09:58
altinnso now yofel ?10:00
yofelI'm clueless10:01
yofelsorry, either someone else has an idea or ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners too10:01
altinnlol even firefox keeps crashing10:01
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diegottoscusate sono nuovo di ubuntu11:43
diegottomi sapete dire come si attiva il cubo su ubuntu 11.411:44
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BluesKajhiyas12:13
DdpbfBluesKaj: greetings :)12:20
BluesKajHi Ddpbf  :)12:21
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ryrychI have a problem with running multiple versions of Firefox in 11.412:44
ryrychrunning 3.6: GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_insert_internal: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed12:45
ryrychrunning 3.5: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:45
ryrychit wasn't a problem in 10.1012:45
Ddpbfryrych: how do you have 3.5 and 3.6 on natty?12:53
Ddpbfdefault ff in *buntu repos is 4.0112:54
ryrychDdpbf: tarballs and Firefox's profiles12:54
PiciIts actually 5.0 in Natty.12:54
ryrychsomething is broken in natty12:55
DdpbfPici: if you have ppa enabled12:55
PiciDdpbf: No. 5.0 landed as a security update in 11.0412:55
Ddpbfi see now12:55
Ddpbfthanks12:55
ryrychdo you know how to run it?12:56
Ddpbfryrych: try firefox -P from konsole12:56
ryrychDdpbf: actually it is what I’m doing: ./firefox -no-remote -P firefox-3.012:57
ryrychit was possible in 10.1012:57
Ddpbfyou want to run ff3 in natty?12:58
* Ddpbf is searching12:59
ryrychDdpbf: 3.6, 3.5 and 3.013:02
ryrychDdpbf: have you found anything? I can’t find anything :(13:10
hazamonzoHey folks. What kde tool would i use to get a remote desktop session to a window box?13:26
szalkrdc?13:33
mig29hi13:35
krisehello13:37
krisecan anybody help me to ger  right klick forking on my laptop HP probook 4520s13:38
jane-how to restart kde?14:00
James147jane-: logout and back in14:01
jane-no. comand14:01
James147jane-: what are you trying to achieve?14:01
jane-.kdm restart thing14:02
jane-James147 cant boot. cant see gui14:02
James147jane-: to restart kdm run "sudo restart kdm"14:02
jane-restart, unknow instance14:02
tftechGood Morning Room14:02
tftechn00b here with a bit of a n00b question14:03
James147try sudo service restart kdm14:03
James147!ask | tftech14:03
ubottutftech: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)14:03
jane-James147 same message14:03
tftechThanks14:03
James147jane-: have you managed to uninstall it?14:03
jane-James147 no14:03
James147jane-: whats the output of "which kdm"?14:04
tftechI am thinking of jumping to Kubuntu because I am having issues with getting a Nvidia Quadro FX 380 working with Ubuntu, anybody have experience with that card in Kubuntu? I am running an HP Elitebook 8440W14:04
jane-James147 /user/bin/kdm14:04
jane-when i fstab, its says /etc/apt/sources.list . cant opon14:05
jane-open14:05
tftechI tired all the answers I could find on google14:05
James147jane-: does /etc/init.d/kdm exist?14:05
jane-how can i  check14:06
James147jane-: ls /etc/init.d/  and look for it ^^ or use a file manager14:06
jane-James147 isnt there a like comand to restart14:06
James147jane-: i have told you it... and it dosnt seem to work. I am trying to find out why14:07
jane-James147 it says again for that comand.  coud not opn file /etc/apt/sources.list. its not instand14:07
jane-install it by apt get instal coreutils14:08
James147jane-: that dosnt make any sense :S14:09
amichairafter installing manufacturer's drivers for a usb video capture device, I plug it in but it doesn't seem to be recognized - can anyone help getting it to work?14:09
BluesKajtftech, what kind of problem with your graphics14:09
BluesKajamichair, run lsusb , to see if it's listed14:10
amichairBluesKaj: it is14:11
BluesKajtvtuner?14:11
tftechBluesKaj: the video does not work when I boot up after installing the Nvidia drivers14:11
jane-James147 it sayas , ntfs-3g  unknow option -e  . and stops booting. any solutions?14:11
amichairBluesKaj: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 07ca:c039 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc.14:12
James147tftech: kubuntu wont fix that... it uses the same underling system as ubuntu14:12
tftechJames: Thank you, that does help14:12
James147tftech: trying a different version might help though... i know some people who have had problems with one version but not others with similar cards14:12
tftechJames147: I started with 10.10 and then moved to 11.04 with no luck14:13
James147tftech: anything wrong with the open drivers?14:13
BluesKajtftech, which nvidia drivers , the recommended ones in kmenu>apps>system>additionaldrivers ?14:13
BluesKajJames147, this could be the nouveau . nvidia-current conflict again14:15
James147BluesKaj: havent seen that conflict before14:15
tftechBluesKaj: I cant get better than 1024x768 or run Unity with the default drivers14:16
tftechJames147: cant get better than 1024x76814:16
Shirakawasunatftech: Unless you game, I recommend tweaking nouveau to make it work14:16
tftechBluesKaj: that kills it compleatly, no video after GRUB when I do that, even with the nomodeset14:17
Shirakawasunatftech: I did so for my media server, it's working great.  Keep in mind that it's experimental, but imo typically more stable than nvidia binaries.14:17
tftechShirakawasuna: I dont game, but need the higher resolution14:17
ispy_Hey everyone, I'm wondering if someone could help me out with a debate I'm in at work (I'm a Product Manager for a Linux desktop application).14:17
Shirakawasunatftech: you should be able to get good resolutions with nouveau14:17
tftechShirakawasuna, how do I do that then? I am willing to try14:18
Shirakawasunatftech: general process: 1) uninstall the nvidia binaries. 2) install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental.14:18
James147ispy_: probably better in #kubuntu-offtopic14:18
Shirakawasunatftech: when you restart, it should automatically load nouveau with proper gallium 3d support.14:18
ispy_Ok, cool...14:18
Shirakawasunatftech: hopefully that works (cross your fingers!)14:18
tftechShirakawasuna: Thanks, I will try14:19
BluesKajJames147, tftech , in some cases the nouveau, which is the default driver upon install doesn't give up it's state as the default , even after the proprietary recommended driver in jockey is installed ...the nouveau has to be blacklisted ,either in default grub or /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf14:19
tftechGoing to try, be back in a bit14:20
jane-how to run a SMART test with KDE. It'll run a series of tests such as writes, passes reads and suchlike to locate bad sectors and such and check the performance of the drive ?14:20
Shirakawasunatftech: I might be gone soon, so good luck!14:20
Shirakawasunajane-: I haven't done any of that before, but I would check out both the fsck tools and the hdparm benchmarks.  This is not kde-specific.14:21
tftechShirakawasuna: Thanks14:21
Shirakawasunajane-: keep in mind that you should only fsck filesystems which are not mounted14:21
tftechBluesKaj: sounds like I should try that first14:21
jane-Shirakawasuna k but any alternative to smart drive. thats in gnome14:22
jane-?14:22
tftechBluesKaj: how do I do that in grub? sorry for the n00b question14:22
tftechBluesKaj: I just did install nvidia-current, so sounds like i need to blacklist nouveau before I reboot14:23
Shirakawasunajane-: I don't know, sorry.14:23
Shirakawasunatftech: that should be handled by default14:23
Shirakawasunatftech: lsmod | grep nouveau14:24
Shirakawasunaand lsmod | grep nvidia14:24
Shirakawasunayou should see one or the other, not both14:24
BluesKajtftech, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/default/grub . look for the line with "quiet splash", add blacklist.nouveau=1 , within th quotes but after quiet spalsh14:24
tftechShirakawasuna: output  thor@LIT-DEB-TF:~$ lsmod | grep nouveau14:26
tftechnouveau               621970  014:26
tftechttm                    65184  1 nouveau14:26
tftechdrm_kms_helper         40745  1 nouveau14:26
tftechdrm                   180037  3 nouveau,ttm,drm_kms_helper14:26
FloodBotK1tftech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:26
tftechi2c_algo_bit           13184  1 nouveau14:26
Shirakawasunawhoops ;)14:26
tftechsorry14:27
Shirakawasunano worries, just use a pastebin14:27
Shirakawasunabut I gotta go now14:27
Shirakawasunabasically lsmod | grep whatever will tell you if that module is loaded14:27
tftechShirakawasuna, thanks for the help14:27
Shirakawasunayou can see if blacklisting is working mostly OK with it14:28
Shirakawasunabbl14:28
Shirakawasunanp!14:28
tftechBluesKaj: would it be safer for me to do that manually in grub first to test? I've had to reinstall already because I could not recover14:29
BluesKajtftech, or you could open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add , blacklist xserver-xorg-video-nouveau to the bottom ,andsave the file14:29
James147tftech: best to test it by editing the line during the boot first14:30
BluesKajtftech,run sudo update-grub after edit default/grub14:32
BluesKajediting14:32
tftechBluesKaj, James147: Thanks. will reboot and try that. brb14:34
jane-is ther a drive test utility with KDE. It'll run a series of tests such as writes, passes reads and suchlike to locate bad sectors and such and check the performance of the drive ?14:35
OerHeksjane- same as in ubuntu , terminal : "sudo touch /forcefsck  " and reboot, fsck will start at boot14:37
jane-OerHeks ok.. any thing better? or its best?14:38
jane-OerHeks i want to check alll the disk having diff partitions formates ntfs.. too OerHeks14:39
OerHeksntfs ? no14:39
OerHeksntfs filesystem is not supported by fsck14:39
OerHeksfsck is a good tool, try it.14:40
jane-OerHeks ok14:40
jane-smartd / smartctl are for kubuntu ?14:42
tftechBluesKaj: If I have 'quite splash' I get no video, I have to change to 'nomodeset'14:43
tftechBluesKaj: I put the 'blacklist.nouveau=1' after the 'nomodeset'14:44
BluesKajtftech, ok, , quiet  splash isn't needed , din't realize you were running nomodeset14:44
tftechBluesKaj: but I still have the same thing, is there somewhere else to change my resolution? I am running regular Ubuntu, not Kubunty14:44
tftechBluesKaj: I got that from looking up the issue on google, should I remove it all together?14:45
rwwstupid question, but why are you asking #kubuntu if you're not using Kubuntu?14:45
tftechrww, I started the questions here and they are being extreamly helpful14:46
BluesKajtftech, you need to reinstall the nvidia driver...it's probly the nvidia-current14:46
tftechBluesKaj: Can I 'upgrade' to Kubuntu, or does it need to be a stand alone install?14:47
tftechBluesKaj: should I remove the nomodeset?14:47
BluesKajmakes no difference the , the graphics drivers are the same for both14:48
James147tftech: you dont 'upgrade' ... kubuntu is just ubuntu with the kde desktop instad of gnome14:48
James147tftech: graphics driver problems in ubuntu wont go away with kubuntu14:48
tftechJames147: ok, even if it does not fix the problem, it might be a better desktop14:49
tftechJames147: I am new to this, only used Linux in command line a little bit so far14:49
tftechnot as a desktop14:50
James147tftech: it is in my opinion :) you can install kde in ubuntu by installing the "kubuntu-desktop" package... and have both gnome and kde installed (you can pick which to start at the login manager)14:50
tftechJames147: Thanks, I think I will try that14:50
tftechBluesKaj: How do I check what version nvidia driver I have installed?14:51
James147tftech: nvidia-settings should tell  you14:52
tftechJames147: I get an error from the app 'you do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X Driver. Please edit your X Cconfiguration file (just run nvidia-xconfg as root)14:54
tftechJames147: but that says command not found14:54
James147tftech: :) yeah need to be using it for that to work :S14:54
* Daskreech whispers to James147: It's still an upgrade Shhhhhh14:54
tftechlol14:54
BluesKajtftech, tftech open a terminal, dpkg -l | grep nvidia14:55
tftechJames147: 275.1914:56
tftechJames147: I see nvidia-settings, but not nvidia-xconfig14:56
James147hmm14:56
BluesKajtftech, ok , sudo nvidia-xconfg14:56
tftechBluesKaj: 'nvidia-xconfig: command not found'14:57
BluesKajoops , nvidia-xconfig14:57
* BluesKaj cleans his specs14:58
tftechBluesKaj: I saw someone had luck with nvidia 260.19.06, how to I get a specific version?14:59
BluesKajtftech, the nvidia website , perhaps ?15:03
tftechBluesKaj: I am downloading the tar now from somewhere else, I could not find it there15:04
OerHeksi wouldn't download any nvidia driver if it doesn't come from nvidia itself.15:05
BluesKajtftech, did you do , sudo nvidia-xconfig?15:06
tftechBluesKaj: I get command not found15:06
BluesKajwith sudo ?15:06
tftechBluesKaj: yes15:06
BluesKajstrange15:06
tftechBluesKaj: I am sure it is user error this whole thing15:07
jane-can you tell me comand to test sda ? in smartctl15:07
tftechI am downloading the .run from the Nvidia website for 26015:07
BluesKajtftech, did you try this , dpkg -l | grep nvidia ?15:08
soeenvidia-settings ?15:08
tftechBluesKaj: I see the nvidia-settings, nvidia-current, and nvidia-common15:09
tftechBluesKaj: but not the nvidia-xconfig15:09
tftechBluesKaj: I just did a remove nvidia-current so I can install the 260 drivers15:09
BluesKajtftech, ok then you should be ok , if you reboot ...don't install that .run file yet15:09
tftechBluesKaj: wait until after a reboot to install the .run, got it15:10
BluesKajtftech, you have o remove the nvidia-current , but you have to stop gdm and drop to a tty to install15:11
tftechBluesKaj: ah, I was looking for how to do that before, how do I?15:12
tftechBluesKaj: and how do I restart it?15:12
James147tftech: sudo stop gdm to stop and sudo start gdm to start it :)15:13
James147or sudo restart gdm to do both15:14
BluesKajtftech, ctrl+alt +f1 , then sudo service gdm stop , then sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current , then /nvidia.run , whatever it's called and make sure it's in your /home/user15:14
BluesKajok , I have to go ...heading for the cottage this aft ...good luck all15:15
tftechBluesKaj: Thank you so much for your help15:15
tftechBluesKaj: any possibility that my problems are because I did not install in tty?15:15
tftechthe nvidia-current15:16
James147tftech: well the nvidia binary wont let you install it unless x isnt running15:16
tftechJames147: mmm, I may try the nvidia-current in tty then15:16
James147though apt-get dosnt care15:16
James147^^ its only the .bin that does15:17
James147tftech: should make any difference...15:17
James147shouldnt ^^15:17
tftechJames147: I am confused now15:17
tftechJames147: I am going to try in tty, brb15:18
James147tftech: if you install nvidia-current from the repos you can do it with x running... the nvidia file you download and run wont let you install it without stopping x first however15:18
James147:(I15:18
ryan___nvidia xwindow service system is shit.15:20
ryan___that is all.15:20
PiciHow rude.15:20
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iDanielSanhi, does anybody know how to integrate facebook chat on kopete? i'm using kubuntu 10.0415:38
Daskreechuse a jabber transport?15:43
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m_tadeuhi....does anyone know why egroupware is not in the kubuntu distro?15:58
Picim_tadeu: Looks like it was removed from Debian and subsequently removed from Ubuntu. See Debian bug #57418616:01
ubottuDebian bug 574186 in ftp.debian.org "RM: egroupware -- RoQA; security buggy, unmaintained" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/57418616:01
m_tadeuPici: I see...is there a proper replacement?16:03
Picim_tadeu: I'm not sure of one off the top of my head.  I see a few results if I search for 'groupware' in the repositories16:07
Daskreechm_tadeu: No PPAs for it?16:12
_markb1_if you are inclined to to "VM based development" (KVM, or vbox, or lxc), is it wiser to install Ubu-server, *then* KDE desktop... ?16:15
_markb1_vs. plain Kubuntu16:16
littlegirlHey there, I was offered 2 security updates, but am getting a warning that they could compromise my system. I took a screenshot. Is there somewhere I can upload the screenshot (without an account) so you can see it?16:16
yofel_markb1_: depends on what you need, if you want a full desktop session then installing kubuntu desktop would be faster than installing server and later desktop ontop of it16:16
rwwlittlegirl: run "sudo apt-get update" in a Terminal and then see if you still get the message.16:17
_markb1_do want a full desktop, but may need server bits??? (I am presuming)16:17
littlegirlrww: Will do.16:17
yofelthere's ubuntu-vm-builder which I use to create KVM sessions and that creates a server image16:17
_markb1_yofel: right, I recall that a while back (as a sh-script, then a Py package)16:17
yofel_markb1_: you can install the server parts on top of the desktop and desktop ontop of the server16:17
yofelso it's a question what you need more16:18
_markb1_yofel: including the kernel?  ru running the server kernel16:18
yofelthat too, although if you change that much installing server and later kubuntu-desktop would probably be easier16:18
littlegirlrww: Thank you! That worked like a charm! (:16:18
rwwlittlegirl: alrighty. the problem was that the package lists didn't download properly, not that there was any security problem :)16:19
_markb1_yofel: roger... it may not be 100% necessary -- gonna have to run a variety of VMs (suse, centos/rhel) for customers16:19
littlegirlrww: Thank goodness! Maybe the error message should be changed. (:16:19
Daskreech_markb1_: You can install kubuntu then install ubuntu-server :)16:27
ubuntu____ola como faço para me conectar ao chat br16:39
ubuntu____help me plix16:40
rww!br16:40
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.16:40
cjq谁帮我解释下,这是什么?16:54
szal!cn | cjq16:54
ubottucjq: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw16:54
cjq我现在在用的是什么?16:55
szalwe no speak Chino ^^16:55
cjqsomeone tell me what it is16:56
szalwhat what is?16:56
cjqwhat am i useing16:57
szalhuh?16:57
cjqjust for chatting16:57
Peace-??16:57
Peace-i guess quassel or konversation16:58
szal[18:58:19] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from cjq: Konversation 1.3.1 (C) 2002-2010 by the Konversation team.16:58
cjqI am useing konversation.but ,what this is?16:58
cjqwhat can i do with it16:59
Peace-chat here16:59
szal!irc | cjq16:59
ubottucjq: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines16:59
Peace-ask problems16:59
macocjq: it's a chatroom for kubuntu technical support16:59
macothere are many other open-source-related chatrooms on this server as well16:59
szalwe need a factoid for general IRC introduction16:59
maco(and there are lots of other servers too)16:59
cjqthank you very much16:59
Daskreechszal: Write one17:09
Daskreechszal: What should it say?17:11
szalDaskreech: in a nutshell, IRC = Internet Relay Chat, and point to a resource explaining it and perhaps point to some clients17:12
Daskreechszal: Tell that to ubottu17:12
Daskreechszal: Though the current one does have a list of clients if you read it17:12
Daskreech!freenode17:13
ubottufreenode is the IRC network that you're on! - See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml - freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml - The Ubuntu channels on freenode also have their own !Guidelines17:13
tftechJames147: Hello17:15
tftechHello, I need help with Video drivers17:29
bbeckDoes anyone know if KDE 4.7 will be packaged for Natty, or is it just for the next version of Kubuntu?18:00
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yofelbbeck: packages are being worked on18:04
bbeckawesome, you guys rock!18:05
Peace-i am on alpha2 xD18:05
muntiKubuyofel: that was quick..thanks for the 4.7 in oneiric18:05
Peace-but...there are not so much changes18:05
yofelmostly groundwork I believe, kwin got some (not really visible) changes, etc.18:06
Peace-for normal users ... interfaces it's the same18:06
Peace-interface18:06
muntiKubuyofel: hope a new live cd with 4.7 is built soon?18:06
yofelit was some work to work out the split sources, as well as the svn -> git move18:06
yofelmuntiKubu: I would guess the one from tomorrow should be fine18:07
altinyofel: any clue ?18:07
yofelaltin: uh... about?18:07
muntiKubuyofel: great. thanks again for all your hard work, and to ScottK too18:07
yofelmuntiKubu: get into -devel and thank everyone on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging ;)18:08
altinyofel: can you tell me how can I install nvidia recomended drivers for ubuntu via terminal cuz i uninstalled them and now the ubuntu wont boot18:09
yofelaltin: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current18:10
yofelmake sure xorg.conf is right (probably is if nouveau doesn't work)18:10
yofelactually jockey-text is the proper way, but I don't know the exact parameters18:10
szalto be precise -> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current && sudo nvidia-xconfig <- that should be all that's needed plus a reboot18:10
RonaldJHello all. What is the best photo-editing tool under kubuntu? Is that still GIMP?18:15
yofelI would say so, gwenview for simple thing ans digikam for management18:16
yofel*simple things and ..18:16
RonaldJyofel thanks. Installing gimp...18:17
bbeckRonaldJ: you might check out Krita, it is very nice.18:27
DaskreechRonaldJ: What do you mean by best?18:28
RonaldJDaskreech I mean good tools and not much lost while using the tools18:37
Daskreechha ha18:38
Daskreechyou mean you want a lossless editor?18:38
Peace-bbeck: well krita... it's not so good ...18:39
Peace-no effects18:39
Peace-i mean as much as gimp18:39
draikHello all. How can I setup my various hard drives to mount in /media with the name of the drive?18:46
draikI had them named in /media with their name, but the upgrade to 11.04 put many of them with the wrong device name.18:47
draikExample: /dev/sda1 is /media/sdd1  and /dev/sdd1 is /media/sdb1 and so forth with a mix up.18:48
szaledit /etc/fstab accordingly, make sure all mount points exist & reboot18:49
moetunesor do   sudo mount -av18:50
draikszal: I just thought of that (/etc/fstab) a moment before you mentioned it.18:50
draikszal: And all mount points exist, they just don't show up properly in /media. Should be a trivial fix.18:51
* szal has all partitions labeled, no messing w/ device node names18:52
draikI have 6 drives, each with names, but none were showing up as such after the upgrade to 11.0418:53
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bbeckPeace-: good call, Krita is a great painting application, Gimp is a good photo manipulation app.18:55
Daskreech!fstab18:57
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions18:57
draikThanks szal and Daskreech.19:01
DaskreechSure19:01
dirk_google findet die seite, er verstößt. wenn  er keine Rechte hat gegen das Copyright, kann teuer werden19:16
Daskreechhttp://www.kde.org/announcements/4.7/19:24
OerHeksDaskreech, howlong do we have to wait for 4.7 hits the mirrors ?19:28
DaskreechOerHeks: it's on the mirrors now19:29
DaskreechYou can grab the source19:29
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OerHeksah, no, i'd rather wait for ubuntu's19:29
yofel4.7 is being uploaded to oneiric19:30
Daskreechah ask in #kubuntu-devel19:30
yofelit's a lot so will take till tomorrow probably19:30
DaskreechBut I would guess at worst before the end of tomorrow depending on how adventerous you are19:30
OerHeksi could wait a reasonable few days19:31
yofelno, this won't be as bad as 4.6.90, don't worry19:31
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chachanguys, I have a VirtualBox guest, I changed the MAC address though the VirtualBox interface and now, I can't see an interface in my guest19:41
chachanlspci show the hardware, but when I do: dhclient eth0 # it says like the hardware isn't there19:43
OerHekschachan, i am not sure, but after altering the mac tru vbox, you should restart networking on the host ?19:45
chachanOerHeks, host?19:46
chachanlet me try19:46
OerHekswb19:49
chachanOerHeks, it didn't work :(19:49
OerHeksoke, did you choose the right networkadapter in vbox settings manager ?19:50
OerHekschanchan you didn't change the MAC into the MAC of the host, i hope ?19:59
tomppamoro kaikki20:14
tomppasanokaa jotai20:14
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tomppamy friends nobo20:14
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FloodBotK1tomppa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:15
Pici!fi | tomppa20:18
ubottutomppa: Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)20:18
Daskreechthanks Pici20:21
PiciDaskreech: Hopefully they don't cause too many issues for #u-fi20:22
Ddpbfhi20:42
Ddpbfany chances for 4.7 in natty?20:42
rwwDdpbf: per http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.7-rc1 "There won't be any packages for 11.04 before 4.7 Final."20:43
Ddpbf4.7 is released20:44
rww(When there are, they'll be in Backports aiui. See the Software Repository Guide linked on that page for more info on that repository.)20:44
Ddpbfactually available in ftp20:44
rwwOkay, so when the packaging for it is done, it'll be there :P20:44
rww(and kubuntu.org will have an announcement)20:45
Ddpbf:)20:45
Ddpbfthanks20:45
PiciAnd the topic here,l ikely.20:46
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soeeyofel, what does WIP in status mean?21:03
yofelwork in progress21:03
soeeah ok, thank you21:03
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RonaldJIs there a way to get all the gimp windows into one window like photoshop?21:06
yofelIIRC that's planned for the next release of gimp, but for gimp 2.6: no21:07
soeeRonaldJ, what GIMP version ?21:07
RonaldJsoee 2.6.1121:07
RonaldJsoee default kubuntu 11.0421:08
soeeRonaldJ, the 2.7.x has single window option but it isnt stable, 2.6 was a bit tricky to get single window21:08
soeeRonaldJ, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/gimpbox-get-single-window-mode-in.html21:09
RonaldJsoee I think I can do that :) 2.621:11
RonaldJsoee thanks. I did not find it.21:11
DaskreechRonaldJ: there is a plugin called Gimpshop that does that I think21:15
RonaldJsoee gimp crashes after the changes :(21:17
RonaldJCan not start it anymore21:17
RonaldJDaskreech how do I get that?21:22
DaskreechI don't know I've never used it21:23
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soeeRonaldJ, read the comments, maybe there is something21:25
DaskreechRonaldJ: try starting it from the terminal it will probably tell you why it crashes21:27
RonaldJSaskreech nope it just stops with no message. Not in the logs too21:28
RonaldJgimpshop is dead sinds 2006 btw21:29
DaskreechAh well I know that discussion started about then to make Gimp have one window so they may have just joined in that21:32
RonaldJI'm going to restore everything. Try it later when I have energy for this kind of problems.21:32
DaskreechRonaldJ: try doing a backup of your settings next time. Things break just throw back the old settings21:36
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enderw99is there an eta on kde 4.7?21:57
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soeehttp://kde.org/announcements/4.7/plasma.php22:20
Daskreechsoee: \o/22:26
Daskreechenderw99: It's out22:26
enderw99what repo?22:29
Daskreechenderw99: Ah for Kubuntu :) It's in Kubuntu+122:30
soeealmost ready for 11.04 as i can see22:31
Daskreechwhen it's stable there it will be put out for narwhal22:31
DaskreechShould be there by tomorrow if you are a early adopter who errs on the side of sanity22:31
soeehttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging22:31
soeeyofel doing great job22:32
yofelI need a break, testing comes tomorrow :P22:32
soeenoooo :D22:33
soeei can test hehe :)22:33
soeeyofel, so when can we expect 4.7 in kubuntu ppa ?22:38
yofelif it works, tomorrow, if not in 2-3 days I guess22:38
soeeok, thank you22:39
Snooffy!classic > Snooffy22:50
ubottuSnooffy, please see my private message22:50
Snooffy!unity > Snooffy22:50
ubottuSnooffy, please see my private message22:50
SnooffyHi, how to restart KDE not shutting down the whole station?22:56
LinkmasterSnooffy: you can restart X, and to do that, log out of your session, log into a tty session, type 'sudo service KDM stop' and then type 'sudo serve KDM start' to restart it23:04
SnooffyLinkmaster: nice one, thanks!23:04
LinkmasterNo problem23:05
SnooffyLinkmaster: can i put as well service KDM restart ?23:06
LinkmasterSnooffy: I'm not sure, I've always done it the first way I mentioned23:06
LinkmasterYou could possible, though you'd be running that command as root, so I can't say what might happen[though, in theory, nothing bad should happen]23:07
SnooffyLinkmaster: roger that ;)23:11
DaskreechLinkmaster: just logging out of KDE shutsdown X23:26
DaskreechSnooffy: ^^^ see above23:26
* Linkmaster thought KDM was part of KDE. His confusion23:27
DaskreechIt's linked to it23:27
SnooffyDaskreech: ok thanks23:29
SnooffyDaskreech: what if I have more users connected to it? Can i restart it from the command line?23:30
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