=== administrator is now known as Guest92867 [00:03] I'm going to install the nVidia driver from the official site. Maybe that's what will make the difference with audio management on the nvidia card. [00:23] Well, it was worth a shot. [00:24] draik: what's the nVidia _graphics_ driver got to do w/ _audio_ ? [00:25] draik: nVidia soundsystems usually run on snd_intel8x0 kernel driver (AC97) or snd_hda_intel (HD Audio); there used to be a proprietary driver, but that was ditched years ago [00:26] szal: It was worth a try. Oddly, the driver from nVidia couldn't compile. [00:27] draik: what's the issue anyway? [00:28] szal: I can't get audio via HDMI from Firefox or Pandora. VLC works just fine. [00:29] draik: are you sure the signal from FF/Pandora gets routed to the HDMI output? check playback streams in KMix or pavucontrol when playing audio [00:30] Nope. Not using HDMI [00:30] ALSA plug-in [Pandora] [00:31] iow, compare what output device VLC uses w/ what FF/Pandora use and adjust for FF/Pandora accordingly [00:32] How do I adjust FF and Pandora. That's what I've been trying to do. [00:34] right-click stream in KMix -> Move -> select output device [00:36] Move is greyed out [00:38] and in VLC it isn't? [00:38] or, rather, for VLC [00:39] VLC -> Tools -> Preferences -> Audio [00:40] I have that set to HDMI hw:0,7 [00:40] that circumvents Pulse; I doubt that browsers have such an elaborate way to select audio output [00:42] the only workaround i could think of here is setting that device as default audio device in Systemsettings [00:44] I've played with every option in System Settings > Multimedia and still no go [01:28] CoJaBo: szal: IT WORKS!!! One small setting off in Pavucontrol. Wasn't obvious, but obviously it was trivial. Thank you for your help. [01:29] To top it off, it works better than in the past. I couldn't play Pandora and Firefox/YouTube at the same time. Now I can without having to kill one app off. [01:29] Did I mention, THANK YOU [01:31] I knew that pavucontrol would be good for something.. helped me locate my microphone device the other week ^^ === massimo is now known as Guest77432 [02:34] I ran out of disk space and now X won't start. I have deleted files but df still says I have no space available. Any suggestions? [02:34] I can log into command line. Just not X [02:35] It is like I am deleting files, but they aren't going anywhere. [02:39] hello zenman [02:39] dpeach: Delete a bigger file? [02:39] lolcat: I have deleted gigabytes worth of files, but it still says I have 0 free space. [02:40] lolcat: It is like it has a tmp directory that isn't flushing. [02:40] WHOw do you delete files? [02:41] cd to the directory that holds the files I want to get rid of then do an: rm filename [02:43] tried rm -r? [02:43] yes, I do that when I am deleting directories. [02:43] or a reboot to flush /tmp? [02:43] rebooted several times. [02:44] checked where all the space is used? [02:44] mostly in my home folder. [02:45] I knew I was getting low on space, but was trying to do a bit for bit copy of a flash drive that I thought would be smaller than the space I had available. During the copy my system got wonky... [02:46] ... then I had to cnt-alt-del to reboot the system. After that I can't start X. The reason is that it says my keyboard map isn't properly set up.... [02:46] ... doing more research I found that others had the same issue when their hard drive was full. [02:47] So I started checking around and my hard drive was full. Deleted tons of files and it still says 0 available. [02:48] dpeach: how did you do the bit by bit copy? What was the command you used? [02:49] zenman: I don't know if it was actually a bit by bit copy, but I was using photorec. [02:51] since I missed the beginning of this, excuse me if you've already been asked but: what happened to the files you tried to recover? Did you delete them as well? [02:51] No, I have not deleted them because I was afraid of possibly loosing them too. [02:52] I can try that. I didn't know how many chances I might have with this flash memory to get the files off. [02:53] Well it might be something else, but I was just curious. Can you check to see how much room the directory containing those files is using? [02:55] hmm, how do I check directory size? I can check individual files. ls -la isn't giving me the directory size with contents. [02:57] You can try to find the total amount using "du -ch" (the -c does the total, and -h makes it "human readable") [02:57] so "du -ch directory" [02:57] 11GB [02:57] and what does "df -h" show? [02:58] It was a 16 GB flash drive. [02:59] df -h says: /dev/sda3 230 G (size) 219G (used) 0 (avail) 100% (use%) [03:00] Wow, just reading that makes my head want to explode. Your disk may need to be checked for errors. [03:01] If I had room to possibly run a program, I could check it for errors. :-) [03:01] I have been able to run lynx for a short time before the /tmp file fills up and lynx shuts down. [03:02] Heh ok let me see what I can dig up... [03:03] thanks for any help you can give zenman and lolcat [03:07] Ok, what is the output when you run this command: "tune2fs -l /dev/sda3" [03:08] uh...you want me to type all that? [03:08] anything specific you are looking for in here? [03:08] Oh right sorry [03:08] yeah "Reserved block count" and "Block size" [03:09] Reserved block count: 3049919 [03:09] Block size: 4096 [03:10] That explains it [03:10] * dpeach is scared. [03:10] the filesystem's reserved about 12GiB or so [03:11] Is that a good 'explains' or a bad 'explains'? [03:11] 219+12 = 231GB (so just about the sholw partiton) [03:11] whole* [03:11] It's good, because that's fixable [03:11] How can I free up 12 GB if it won't delete anything? [03:11] whew! [03:11] Luckily, there's a command for that! [03:11] You made my stomach sink and made me excited all in about 30 seconds. [03:11] tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda3 [03:12] Sorry! Text doesn't convey emotion very well, sadly [03:12] Oh that's a zero, btw, not a capital "o" [03:12] ok. done [03:13] Basically, that makes the fs reserve 0 blocks, so now you can reboot or whatever and all should be well [03:13] ok. Here goes. [03:13] * dpeach with fingers crossed. [03:13] Should I set it back to the way it was if this works and I get things cleaned up? [03:15] It should be fine without that, but I guess you can always try. The argument to m is a percentage, by the way. Don't try to give it the exact number of blocks, in case you do try to set it yourself [03:15] Still won't start X, but it does say I have 11G avail when doing df -h [03:15] Have you got separate partitions for your home and root? [03:16] no, not anymore. [03:16] I did for a couple of years, but the last time I rebuilt this system I got tired of fighting for the right amount of space in each. [03:16] Its all on one partition? Hm... I can't see why it wouldn't start then... [03:16] Right, common problem [03:17] Any error messages saying it can't start? Or it simply doesn't start? [03:17] I just did a sudo startx and it looks like it might work. [03:17] It kept jumping back to the login screen. [03:17] This has gotten me in and started. [03:18] Still booting into X, but it looks like it is working fine. [03:18] You [03:18] You [03:18] You're good? Great! [03:18] (sorry about that,...enter key) [03:18] looks like it. [03:19] Is it any problem to leave what we did alone and not put it back? (the tune2fs command?) [03:20] Nah shouldn't be [03:20] alright, then I will leave it as it is. [03:20] In case you ever do feel like setting it back, the manpage says the default is 5 percent [03:20] But yeah probably more trouble than it's worth [03:21] Thanks zenman! I let my friend take his card back and got him set up with the photorec software on his Mac. Maybe he will get all the files off of it. [03:21] I really appreciate it. [03:21] No problem. Glad you're back in. [03:24] Tried doing a backup the other day (first time in a few months) and my software was not acting right. So I ignored it. Believe me, this experience has made me eager to figure out what isn't working and get it fixed. [03:25] I've installed kubuntu beside win7, on separate partitions, I have never touched the win partitions in any way (only mounted it and copied a few bits out of there) but now my win7 won't boot. I can see the menu of the system in the GRUB menu, but when I choose it, the screen goes black and than the PC restarts.... Any ideas? Could the MBR of win7 have been broken from GRUB as it was loaded to the same partition as W7 used to boot fro [03:26] Snooffy: has your win7 partition booted any since you installed Linux? Or, it has never booted since you installed Linux? [03:58] hi, I'm having some issues with cairo-dock [03:59] it was working fine, but now it is displaying some weird color spectrum in a box where the cairo dock usually resides [03:59] it goes away when I move the cursor to make the dock visible, but when the dock goes invisible, the spectral box comes back === ghost is now known as Guest36814 === Guest36814 is now known as avalidnickname [04:33] dpeach it booted after I've installed Kubuntu [04:35] !classic > wildgoose [04:35] wildgoose, please see my private message [04:48] Does anyone know of a screen recorder that will also record sound? Preferably KDE, but doesn't have to be [04:48] When I mean by sound, I mean internal. Not from a speaker, the sounds that youtube would be making for instance, but being able to turn my mic off and still record the sound [06:35] i just installed plasma-widget-toggle-compositing via apt-get, but i cant find it. how do i turn on this widget? [07:07] hey would it be wise to install kubuntu in dual-boon on ubuntu? === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy [07:48] Hey [07:48] I'm having problems connecting to my wireless network [07:48] In that, I can't do it [07:50] Anyone in? [07:50] .. [07:51] hulllooo [07:52] simion314: help me out? [07:52] everyone is afk and I'd appreciate some help :( [07:52] OH COME ON [07:53] what the fuck [07:56] !details | Batzy [07:56] Batzy: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [07:56] !wait | Batzy [07:56] Batzy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. [08:02] There's really not much detail [08:02] It just won't connect [08:02] kubuntu 11.04 [08:03] I click the KDE network administration [08:03] Try to connect to my network using a WEP passphrase [08:03] and it just doesn't connect [08:03] it keeps popping the window up again though [08:03] Batzy: You could at least tell us what encryption you are using... or any other details specific to your set up [08:03] I just told you [08:03] WEP [08:03] passphrase [08:04] (sorry wasent reading while i was typing :) ) [08:04] ty for answering though [08:04] Batzy: short answer: use wpa... it works much better and isnt broken [08:04] >implying it supports wpa [08:05] how can I just connect using WEP? [08:05] Batzy: most things do... [08:05] My arch linux machine I'm on now seems to be connecting fine [08:05] and my windows machine did too [08:05] hello [08:05] Meaning, it's not WEP that's the problem [08:05] but the OS [08:06] grub menu cannot detect my ubuntu installation.. [08:06] only the memtest+ appear [08:06] And it's like, why should I need to go install WPA when it should be able to use WEP [08:06] the wireless network tool says it can use wep, it should work, no? [08:06] Batzy: the kde network manager has some problems detecting the settings for wep (at least the last time i tried) try changing the "Authentication" option (from open system to shared key) then try chaning the key type [08:06] what should i do? [08:07] Batzy: it can work... its just wep is horribly broken... and shouldnt really be used anymore [08:07] James147: I tried that [08:07] before this happen, I was reinstall my grub... [08:08] !grub2 | dmn_ [08:08] dmn_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [08:09] James147 : my grub version is 1.99~rc-13ubuntu3 [08:10] dmn_: thats grub2 [08:10] owh, okay.. [08:11] James147: does kubuntu come with some no PoS software out of the box so I can get this working properly? [08:11] James147: the grub is still in there but just my ubuntu partition entry is missing.. [08:11] Batzy: deleting and reconfiguring the network might help... if not you could try the gnome network manager applet [08:12] Batzy: PoS? [08:12] James147: does it come with the gnome manager? [08:12] PoS = piece of shit [08:13] Batzy: not out of the box... but you can install it easaly from the repos [08:14] Batzy: "network-manager-gnome" << should be in that package the applet is called nm-applet [08:14] James147: im not connected on that machine [08:14] I just did network interface infortmation, only see the loop back [08:15] Batzy: then download the deb (and any missing dependancies) on a nother computer then transfer and install them [08:15] Batzy: or try connecting via command line [08:16] James147: how? and like I said, it sees no wlan0 interface [08:16] Ill brb [08:16] i have another wireless device [08:18] Batzy: where do you not see a wlan0 interface? [08:38] can i reinstall linux image using live cd to the ubuntu partition?? [08:50] hello, can anybody help me to get right klick working on my laptop HP Probook 4520s [09:02] student [09:48] can anyone please tell me how to configure this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" [09:48] altinn: you know that's the right command, you just need to know how to run it? [09:49] areichman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11089527#post11089527 [09:49] I keep getting this error [09:49] I tried his command but that doesnt work [09:50] I don't know what you mean by configure it [09:50] it's just something that sound run [09:50] should* [09:51] altinn: that's 'dpkg --configure -a', not reconfigure [09:51] also, it seems lzma or xz isn't installed "/usr/sbin/update-initramfs: 20: lzma: not found" [09:51] but yofel that isnt working it shows me the same error [09:51] thanks yofel, I thought it looked weird... [09:52] try 'sudo apt-get install -f' [09:52] i did so many times now [09:52] sudo apt-get install xz [09:53] or rather sudo apt-get install lzma [09:53] Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package xz [09:53] then try lzma [09:54] ok this one working [09:54] installing... [09:56] ok yofel installed id [09:56] now try --configure again [09:56] however in the end again the same error but the lzma is installed [09:56] can you pastebin the errors? [09:56] !paste [09:56] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:57] yofel: here is what it shows now after --configure -a http://pastebin.com/ys7d4fiy [09:58] noe error(1) in the end\ [09:58] what the hell, now it's "lzma: Encoder error: -2147467259" [09:58] o.O [10:00] so now yofel ? [10:01] I'm clueless [10:01] sorry, either someone else has an idea or ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners too [10:01] lol even firefox keeps crashing === andrei_c is now known as andrei_comandatu === fred is now known as Guest55667 === jussi is now known as Guest56218 [11:43] scusate sono nuovo di ubuntu [11:44] mi sapete dire come si attiva il cubo su ubuntu 11.4 === jussi01_ is now known as jussi [12:13] hiyas [12:20] BluesKaj: greetings :) [12:21] Hi Ddpbf :) === vojta is now known as VojtechFranc [12:44] I have a problem with running multiple versions of Firefox in 11.4 [12:45] running 3.6: GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_insert_internal: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed [12:45] running 3.5: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [12:45] it wasn't a problem in 10.10 [12:53] ryrych: how do you have 3.5 and 3.6 on natty? [12:54] default ff in *buntu repos is 4.01 [12:54] Ddpbf: tarballs and Firefox's profiles [12:54] Its actually 5.0 in Natty. [12:55] something is broken in natty [12:55] Pici: if you have ppa enabled [12:55] Ddpbf: No. 5.0 landed as a security update in 11.04 [12:55] i see now [12:55] thanks [12:56] do you know how to run it? [12:56] ryrych: try firefox -P from konsole [12:57] Ddpbf: actually it is what I’m doing: ./firefox -no-remote -P firefox-3.0 [12:57] it was possible in 10.10 [12:58] you want to run ff3 in natty? [12:59] * Ddpbf is searching [13:02] Ddpbf: 3.6, 3.5 and 3.0 [13:10] Ddpbf: have you found anything? I can’t find anything :( [13:26] Hey folks. What kde tool would i use to get a remote desktop session to a window box? [13:33] krdc? [13:35] hi [13:37] hello [13:38] can anybody help me to ger right klick forking on my laptop HP probook 4520s [14:00] how to restart kde? [14:01] jane-: logout and back in [14:01] no. comand [14:01] jane-: what are you trying to achieve? [14:02] .kdm restart thing [14:02] James147 cant boot. cant see gui [14:02] jane-: to restart kdm run "sudo restart kdm" [14:02] restart, unknow instance [14:02] Good Morning Room [14:03] n00b here with a bit of a n00b question [14:03] try sudo service restart kdm [14:03] !ask | tftech [14:03] tftech: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [14:03] James147 same message [14:03] Thanks [14:03] jane-: have you managed to uninstall it? [14:03] James147 no [14:04] jane-: whats the output of "which kdm"? [14:04] I am thinking of jumping to Kubuntu because I am having issues with getting a Nvidia Quadro FX 380 working with Ubuntu, anybody have experience with that card in Kubuntu? I am running an HP Elitebook 8440W [14:04] James147 /user/bin/kdm [14:05] when i fstab, its says /etc/apt/sources.list . cant opon [14:05] open [14:05] I tired all the answers I could find on google [14:05] jane-: does /etc/init.d/kdm exist? [14:06] how can i check [14:06] jane-: ls /etc/init.d/ and look for it ^^ or use a file manager [14:06] James147 isnt there a like comand to restart [14:07] jane-: i have told you it... and it dosnt seem to work. I am trying to find out why [14:07] James147 it says again for that comand. coud not opn file /etc/apt/sources.list. its not instand [14:08] install it by apt get instal coreutils [14:09] jane-: that dosnt make any sense :S [14:09] after installing manufacturer's drivers for a usb video capture device, I plug it in but it doesn't seem to be recognized - can anyone help getting it to work? [14:09] tftech, what kind of problem with your graphics [14:10] amichair, run lsusb , to see if it's listed [14:11] BluesKaj: it is [14:11] tvtuner? [14:11] BluesKaj: the video does not work when I boot up after installing the Nvidia drivers [14:11] James147 it sayas , ntfs-3g unknow option -e . and stops booting. any solutions? [14:12] BluesKaj: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 07ca:c039 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc. [14:12] tftech: kubuntu wont fix that... it uses the same underling system as ubuntu [14:12] James: Thank you, that does help [14:12] tftech: trying a different version might help though... i know some people who have had problems with one version but not others with similar cards [14:13] James147: I started with 10.10 and then moved to 11.04 with no luck [14:13] tftech: anything wrong with the open drivers? [14:13] tftech, which nvidia drivers , the recommended ones in kmenu>apps>system>additionaldrivers ? [14:15] James147, this could be the nouveau . nvidia-current conflict again [14:15] BluesKaj: havent seen that conflict before [14:16] BluesKaj: I cant get better than 1024x768 or run Unity with the default drivers [14:16] James147: cant get better than 1024x768 [14:16] tftech: Unless you game, I recommend tweaking nouveau to make it work [14:17] BluesKaj: that kills it compleatly, no video after GRUB when I do that, even with the nomodeset [14:17] tftech: I did so for my media server, it's working great. Keep in mind that it's experimental, but imo typically more stable than nvidia binaries. [14:17] Shirakawasuna: I dont game, but need the higher resolution [14:17] Hey everyone, I'm wondering if someone could help me out with a debate I'm in at work (I'm a Product Manager for a Linux desktop application). [14:17] tftech: you should be able to get good resolutions with nouveau [14:18] Shirakawasuna, how do I do that then? I am willing to try [14:18] tftech: general process: 1) uninstall the nvidia binaries. 2) install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental. [14:18] ispy_: probably better in #kubuntu-offtopic [14:18] tftech: when you restart, it should automatically load nouveau with proper gallium 3d support. [14:18] Ok, cool... [14:18] tftech: hopefully that works (cross your fingers!) [14:19] Shirakawasuna: Thanks, I will try [14:19] James147, tftech , in some cases the nouveau, which is the default driver upon install doesn't give up it's state as the default , even after the proprietary recommended driver in jockey is installed ...the nouveau has to be blacklisted ,either in default grub or /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [14:20] Going to try, be back in a bit [14:20] how to run a SMART test with KDE. It'll run a series of tests such as writes, passes reads and suchlike to locate bad sectors and such and check the performance of the drive ? [14:20] tftech: I might be gone soon, so good luck! [14:21] jane-: I haven't done any of that before, but I would check out both the fsck tools and the hdparm benchmarks. This is not kde-specific. [14:21] Shirakawasuna: Thanks [14:21] jane-: keep in mind that you should only fsck filesystems which are not mounted [14:21] BluesKaj: sounds like I should try that first [14:22] Shirakawasuna k but any alternative to smart drive. thats in gnome [14:22] ? [14:22] BluesKaj: how do I do that in grub? sorry for the n00b question [14:23] BluesKaj: I just did install nvidia-current, so sounds like i need to blacklist nouveau before I reboot [14:23] jane-: I don't know, sorry. [14:23] tftech: that should be handled by default [14:24] tftech: lsmod | grep nouveau [14:24] and lsmod | grep nvidia [14:24] you should see one or the other, not both [14:24] tftech, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/default/grub . look for the line with "quiet splash", add blacklist.nouveau=1 , within th quotes but after quiet spalsh [14:26] Shirakawasuna: output thor@LIT-DEB-TF:~$ lsmod | grep nouveau [14:26] nouveau 621970 0 [14:26] ttm 65184 1 nouveau [14:26] drm_kms_helper 40745 1 nouveau [14:26] drm 180037 3 nouveau,ttm,drm_kms_helper [14:26] tftech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:26] i2c_algo_bit 13184 1 nouveau [14:26] whoops ;) [14:27] sorry [14:27] no worries, just use a pastebin [14:27] but I gotta go now [14:27] basically lsmod | grep whatever will tell you if that module is loaded [14:27] Shirakawasuna, thanks for the help [14:28] you can see if blacklisting is working mostly OK with it [14:28] bbl [14:28] np! [14:29] BluesKaj: would it be safer for me to do that manually in grub first to test? I've had to reinstall already because I could not recover [14:29] tftech, or you could open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add , blacklist xserver-xorg-video-nouveau to the bottom ,andsave the file [14:30] tftech: best to test it by editing the line during the boot first [14:32] tftech,run sudo update-grub after edit default/grub [14:32] editing [14:34] BluesKaj, James147: Thanks. will reboot and try that. brb [14:35] is ther a drive test utility with KDE. It'll run a series of tests such as writes, passes reads and suchlike to locate bad sectors and such and check the performance of the drive ? [14:37] jane- same as in ubuntu , terminal : "sudo touch /forcefsck " and reboot, fsck will start at boot [14:38] OerHeks ok.. any thing better? or its best? [14:39] OerHeks i want to check alll the disk having diff partitions formates ntfs.. too OerHeks [14:39] ntfs ? no [14:39] ntfs filesystem is not supported by fsck [14:40] fsck is a good tool, try it. [14:40] OerHeks ok [14:42] smartd / smartctl are for kubuntu ? [14:43] BluesKaj: If I have 'quite splash' I get no video, I have to change to 'nomodeset' [14:44] BluesKaj: I put the 'blacklist.nouveau=1' after the 'nomodeset' [14:44] tftech, ok, , quiet splash isn't needed , din't realize you were running nomodeset [14:44] BluesKaj: but I still have the same thing, is there somewhere else to change my resolution? I am running regular Ubuntu, not Kubunty [14:45] BluesKaj: I got that from looking up the issue on google, should I remove it all together? [14:45] stupid question, but why are you asking #kubuntu if you're not using Kubuntu? [14:46] rww, I started the questions here and they are being extreamly helpful [14:46] tftech, you need to reinstall the nvidia driver...it's probly the nvidia-current [14:47] BluesKaj: Can I 'upgrade' to Kubuntu, or does it need to be a stand alone install? [14:47] BluesKaj: should I remove the nomodeset? [14:48] makes no difference the , the graphics drivers are the same for both [14:48] tftech: you dont 'upgrade' ... kubuntu is just ubuntu with the kde desktop instad of gnome [14:48] tftech: graphics driver problems in ubuntu wont go away with kubuntu [14:49] James147: ok, even if it does not fix the problem, it might be a better desktop [14:49] James147: I am new to this, only used Linux in command line a little bit so far [14:50] not as a desktop [14:50] tftech: it is in my opinion :) you can install kde in ubuntu by installing the "kubuntu-desktop" package... and have both gnome and kde installed (you can pick which to start at the login manager) [14:50] James147: Thanks, I think I will try that [14:51] BluesKaj: How do I check what version nvidia driver I have installed? [14:52] tftech: nvidia-settings should tell you [14:54] James147: I get an error from the app 'you do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X Driver. Please edit your X Cconfiguration file (just run nvidia-xconfg as root) [14:54] James147: but that says command not found [14:54] tftech: :) yeah need to be using it for that to work :S [14:54] * Daskreech whispers to James147: It's still an upgrade Shhhhhh [14:54] lol [14:55] tftech, tftech open a terminal, dpkg -l | grep nvidia [14:56] James147: 275.19 [14:56] James147: I see nvidia-settings, but not nvidia-xconfig [14:56] hmm [14:56] tftech, ok , sudo nvidia-xconfg [14:57] BluesKaj: 'nvidia-xconfig: command not found' [14:57] oops , nvidia-xconfig [14:58] * BluesKaj cleans his specs [14:59] BluesKaj: I saw someone had luck with nvidia 260.19.06, how to I get a specific version? [15:03]