[00:02] <bradm> head_victim: headers could be interesting if you can get them
[00:18] <head_victim> Request sent.
[00:27] <bradm> head_victim: ta
[00:42] <head_victim> bradm: I'll pastebin and then email those on the RT ticket with a link?
[00:43] <bradm> head_victim: sure, that works
[00:47] <head_victim> Actually, this isn't new information is it? It's not gmail sending this mail it's lists.ubuntu.com which we've never had a problem with. I've only just picked up on that from the header.
[00:48] <gorilla> head_victim: btw, your email about the lack of phishing warning for mail list digests would be correct. :-)
[00:49] <bradm> head_victim: mmm, having the headers could help
[00:49] <head_victim> gorilla: nice to know I'm slowly not sounding quite as silly when talking about technical items
[00:51] <gorilla> head_victim: A lot of people get email wrong. different ports for sending and "receiving" at least from the user's PoV.
[00:53] <head_victim> gorilla: like a series of tubes ;)
[00:56] <gorilla> head_victim: yes, and you need to be careful of the size of the truck that you send down the tube, especially when it comes to email as the receiver may not have a loading dock sufficently big enough for the email. Have I bent the analogy enoughj?
[00:56] <gorilla> enough*?
[00:57] <head_victim> Hah well if you REALLY want to stretch the analogy there is always the good old faithful http://www.google.com/tisp/
[01:05] <gorilla> head_victim: well there are some things that can't be polished.
[01:06]  * gorilla is amazed that google still has their TISP details online, perhaps it can't be flushed from their cache.
[12:33] <sagaci> anyone around that can help me restart X without rebooting or logging out
[12:35] <sagaci> meh, i'll just reboot