[05:33] <oscalation> gota question, ive applied for a mentor but no one ever got back to me about it. any ideas on what i should do
[05:33] <haneefmubarak> hello?
[05:34] <haneefmubarak> guys
[05:34] <haneefmubarak> f
[05:34] <haneefmubarak> g
[05:34] <haneefmubarak> h
[05:34] <haneefmubarak> jguys
[05:34] <haneefmubarak> ???
[05:35] <haneefmubarak> Well, I'll leave what I need to say here and check it later then.
[05:36] <haneefmubarak> Anyways, although I am part of the bug team, when I attempt to triage a bug, it only allows me to set the status, but not the importance. Any help is greatly appreciated.
[05:54] <micahg> haneefmubarak: only bug control can set importance and triaged/won't fix status
[05:59] <oscalation> micahg, any idea on my question
[05:59]  * micahg looks to vish 
[07:17] <oscalation> i take it vish isnt available
[08:02] <blurrr> Hi. I have installed the following updates an hour back: libdbus-1-3 dbus dbus-x11 libpng12-0 libsndfile1 and now while trying to mount the partitions from within Gnome, I'm getting Jul 27 13:25:29 user-mech polkitd(authority=local): Operator of unix-session:/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session6 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for action org.freedesktop.systemtoolsbackends.set for system-bus-name::1.145 [users-admin] (owned by unix-user:g
[08:02] <blurrr> opal)
[08:03] <blurrr> Double checked, the password is okay
[08:04] <blurrr> Using Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 LTS x64
[08:04] <seb128> mdeslaur, jdstrand: ^
[08:06] <seb128> blurrr, could you open a bug about that if you did? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+filebug
[08:06] <blurrr> Sure, let me do that.
[08:06] <vish> micahg: yea, i'm easy on the eyes, but you can look at other mentors too ;p
[08:24] <blurrr> seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/816842 - will report back after I downgrade.
[08:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 816842 in dbus (Ubuntu) "Unable to authenticate Gnome applications after a recent update of libdbus-1-3 dbus dbus-x11 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[08:25] <seb128> blurrr, thanks
[08:25] <blurrr> seb128: thank you for pointing me in the right direction :)
[08:25] <seb128> you're welcome
[13:51] <czajkowski> chrisjrob: :)
[13:51] <chrisjrob> czajkowski: !
[14:24] <oscalation> can anyone help me, i applied for a mentor and no one has gotten back to me, not sure what i should do next
[14:28] <hggdh> oscalation: will look at it now
[14:28] <hggdh> oscalation: but you do not really need to wait, we are all here to help
[14:28] <oscalation> hggdh, i appreciate it. Im pretty sure i followed the wiki page correctly
[14:30] <hggdh> oscalation: good! Now, start triaging; on *any* doubt, ask here -- we will be happy to help, and your question may help others
[14:30] <hggdh> this is why we like people ask questions here
[14:39] <chrisjrob> i wonder whether someone would be able to triage an empathy bug that i have logged https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/807723 ?
[14:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 807723 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy does not start at login by default (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[14:57] <hggdh> pedro_, jibel, charlie-tca: good morning/day/afternoon/evening as it may be
[14:57] <pedro_> hggdh, Good morning to you Sir Carlos :-)
[14:59] <hggdh> pedro_: interesting bug this one from chrisjrob, what is your take on it?
[14:59]  * hggdh is now running gnome-shell, and does not really use empathy
[15:00] <pedro_> hggdh, will check with Oneiric
[15:03] <charlie-tca> good morning, sire
[15:03] <charlie-tca> good morning, sir
[15:04] <charlie-tca> sorry, that was a type
[15:04] <charlie-tca> well, this ain't off to a good start, is it?
[15:05] <charlie-tca> I tend to shy away from the empathy bugs.
[15:06] <hggdh> charlie-tca: although I would be happy to be called 'sire', I (1) am not a king; (2) do not have the money that usually follows the title ;-)
[15:07] <hggdh> (for titles without money, I am already served :-( )
[15:07] <charlie-tca> I just can't make the keys work today
[15:08] <hggdh> bad day?
[15:10] <hggdh> vish: BTW, I hear you (but, personally, I think I am better looking ;-)
[15:11] <vish> hggdh: certainly! no contest there with you! :)
[15:12]  * charlie-tca is apparently going to have a bad day
[15:24] <ogasawara> davmor2: around?  wanted to chat about your bug, 814882
[15:24] <hggdh> interesting. I close Evolution, and it not only does not end, but goes into a 100% CPU loop. Same with Synaptic
[15:24] <davmor2> ogasawara: give me five
[15:24] <ogasawara> davmor2: sure, if you want, come jump into #ubuntu-kernel when you're ready
[16:16] <bdmurray> pedro_: do you know about the permission change that allows bug 814331?
[16:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 814331 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[Oneiric] update-manager installs packages without authentication (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814331
[16:16] <bdmurray> I gather this is by design but can't find the right package that allows it
[16:17] <seb128> bdmurray, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/0.6
[16:17] <micahg> bdmurray: isn't that polkit?
[16:17] <micahg> yeah, what seb128 said :)
[16:17] <bdmurray> micahg: right what seb128 said is not what you said ;-)
[16:18]  * micahg was confused, I was thinking what he said, but it came out wrong :)
[16:18] <bdmurray> seb128: thanks
[16:18] <seb128> yw
[16:21] <bdmurray> mvo: is the apt task in bug 800910 necessary?
[16:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 800910 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 5 other projects) "Kernel Upgrade forces removal of grub-efi due to missing recommends entry (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 123)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800910
[16:25] <mvo> bdmurray: I want to have a look at this in apt, I'm not sure ye twhat is triggering it
[16:31] <jmburgess> Hey guys just wanted to ask you before i went to ubuntu-kernel.  Bug 816110 is a kernel bug. It has apport info and he's running oneiric with kernel 3.0.0.7. Is it ready to be marked as triaged? I looked at the kernel team wiki and it seems to match all the requirements
[16:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 816110 in linux (Ubuntu) "Don't work multitouch on acer 522 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/816110
[16:44] <oscalation> is it common practice for bug squad members to have apport enabled permanently ?
[16:44] <oscalation> sudo nano /ect/default/apport
[16:46] <charlie-tca> oscalation: bug squad members do not necessarily need apport enabled
[16:46] <charlie-tca> apport is to help get logs together when filing bugs, it doesn't do much when triaging bugs
[16:49] <hggdh> it is a personal decision; having apport enabled makes a lot of sense if you are running the bleeding edge (so that you can report the bugs you find -- but apport is automagically enabled on the devel release)
[16:49] <hggdh> but, as charlie-tca says, for triaging you do not need it
[16:52] <oscalation> hggdh, devel release?
[16:53] <oscalation> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing    gotcha
[16:53] <hggdh> oscalation: 'devel release' is whatever (*)ubuntu release being developed right now -- Oneiric, for example
[17:14] <oscalation> can anyone please review my first bug triage, it was low hanging fruit (i feel). Please give me any feedback possible, anything i should do ect
[17:14] <oscalation> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/816661
[17:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 816661 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Fire fox can not show ebay images and youtube videos (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[17:14] <oscalation> do i need to convert this to a question ?
[17:16] <oscalation> any and all comments are welcome
[17:20] <hggdh> oscalation: huh. d]flashplugin-installer is now available on the multiverse repository. The instructions you pointed to are a bit outdated
[17:24] <oscalation> hggdh  you mean that you can install adobe flash/ or other flash plugins from the UBS ?
[17:24] <oscalation> UBC i mean
[17:24] <oscalation> arrgg ... USC
[17:24] <hggdh> what is UBC?
[17:24] <oscalation> ubuntu software center, sorry
[17:24] <hggdh> heh
[17:25] <oscalation> is that what your referring to ?
[17:26] <hggdh> yes, as long as you Edit/Software Sources, and make sure "Software restricted by copyright or legal issues(multiverse) is selected
[17:26] <hggdh> (on software-centre
[17:26] <hggdh> )
[17:26] <hggdh> center
[17:28] <oscalation> though my general conclusion was correct?
[17:28] <oscalation> not a bug, just install flash
[17:28] <bibinou> doesn't firefox provide a "missing plugin" dialog ?
[17:28] <oscalation> im pretty sure it does
[17:30] <oscalation> is that something i should of looked into?
[17:30] <hggdh> oscalation: yes, it was correct. You might want to update the instructions, though
[17:30] <hggdh> bibinou: yes, it does provide a 'missing plugin'. But it may not work
[17:30] <oscalation> hggdh, may not work?
[17:31] <bibinou> if multiverse is not in sources
[17:31] <bibinou> maybe it can't find any flash player
[17:31] <hggdh> I do not go installing plugins on ffox, so I am not sure -- ergo, the 'may not work'. But, of old (at least) the missing plugin dialog would go to the software provider
[17:31] <oscalation> im not familure with the term multiverse
[17:31] <bibinou> although some GNU alternative should be in universe, so that's weird
[17:32] <oscalation> software that is not free.. gotcha
[17:33] <bibinou> oscalation: software sources are a key part of ubuntu : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[17:33] <bibinou> you often run into problems when one installs a third party repository and it causes all sorts of bugs
[17:34] <oscalation> yeah reading that now, how can i tell what is in the main and restricted repos
[17:34] <oscalation> bibinou, oh really... interesting
[17:34] <bibinou> restricted has very few packages in it
[17:35] <bibinou> mostly proprietary drivers
[17:35] <oscalation> is there a list or something that i should be referencing
[17:36] <bibinou> start synaptic and click the origin button at the bottom
[17:36] <bibinou> sorts by repository of origin
[17:36] <hggdh> oscalation: install apt-cache (sudo apt-get install apt-cache); then run 'apt-cache policy <package>', replacing <package> by whatever package you want
[17:36] <oscalation> hggdh, also, instead of updating the bug comment, wouldnt it make more sense to update that wiki page to include info about install flash from USC
[17:37] <hggdh> oscalation: certainly the page should be updated. Please feel free to do it
[17:37] <oscalation> hggdh, i take it this is what i need to use to install and remove packages found in bug reports on the fly
[17:37] <hggdh> apt-cache?
[17:37] <oscalation> yeah
[17:37] <hggdh> no, apt-cache will give you information about packages; to install you can use apt-get
[17:37] <hggdh> I mis-typed there
[17:38] <hggdh> no, I did not
[17:38]  * hggdh is feeling tired
[17:38]  * oscalation gives hggdh a pillow 
[17:38] <hggdh> oscalation: these are command-line utilities; they make a lot of sense for me, I am usually on a terminal
[17:39] <oscalation> yeah im familure, i use terminal fairly often
[17:39] <oscalation> could of just manned apt-cache
[17:39] <oscalation> :)
[17:40] <oscalation> is apt-cacher the same thing?
[17:40] <hggdh> another good command-line is 'rmadison' -- for example, 'rmadison flashplugin-installer'
[17:41] <oscalation> the man page for rmadison seems over my head, though i'll install it
[17:41] <hggdh> no, apt-cacher is a cacher for packages; only makes sense if you are admin to a series of boxes
[17:42] <hggdh> and there is apt-cacher-ng, which is better
[17:42] <hggdh> (I use apt-cacher, but I have about 10 machines around me)
[17:43] <oscalation> unable to locate package apt-cache
[17:43]  * micahg loves apt-cacher-ng
[17:44] <yofel> apt-cache is part of apt, and not apt-cacher
[17:44] <yofel> and does something totally different
[17:45] <oscalation> ah gotcha, i didnt need to install it
[17:45] <hggdh> yofel: thank you. I am really out of my mind today
[17:46] <hggdh> micahg: pretty nice neast, is it not? And much less hits on the repositories...
[17:47] <micahg> hggdh: it's great when you do test builds locally
[17:47] <hggdh> yeah. And right now it is only 5G for natty and oneiric 64 bits...
[17:49] <micahg> wow, I'm up to 20G on lucid-oneiric
[17:49] <hggdh> ah, by expiry is set too low, 4 days only
[17:50] <hggdh> s/by/my/
[17:50]  * yofel goes reading apt-cacher-ng manpage
[17:50] <yofel> never really got to set that up ^^
[17:51] <hggdh> usually -- as in my case -- you can just accept the defaults
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