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smosererichammond, still around ?00:15
smoseryou're more than welcome to start packaging there. in fact i think taht would be great.00:15
smoserwhich autoscaling where you wanting to start on?00:16
smoserthe rdscli package is i think the best package i have put together.00:17
erichammondsmoser: Just checked in again, but now heading home.  I was thinking of the "as-*" command line tools from AWS. http://aws.amazon.com/developertools/253502:56
erichammondsmoser: Will check out rdscli. Thanks.02:56
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kim0Morning all07:30
koolhead11hi all08:20
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koolhead11TeTeT, ping09:22
davinci11 have a ubuntu-cloud problem,09:23
davinci11when I restart instance, installed apache will disappear, it seems like cant permanently store into VM, can anyone facing this problem ?09:25
davinci11can = did09:25
TeTeTdavinci11: you have this with UEC? Probably you want to have a persistent instance, that stores all data on an EBS volume?10:01
TeTeTkoolhead11: pong, what's up?10:01
davinci11TeTeT: yes, and I using image from store10:03
koolhead11TeTeT, so UEC on oneric will have openstack (diablo) ?10:04
TeTeTdavinci11: please have a look at http://people.canonical.com/~tspindler/UEC/ebs-based-instance.pdf , maybe it helps10:04
TeTeTkoolhead11: I don't know, please ask one of the developers10:04
TeTeTkoolhead11: I have no oneiric system yet10:05
davinci11Thanks TeTeT, i will try it tomorrow, see if that work, got to go now see u10:07
TRElliskoolhead11: supposed to be diablo, yeah12:39
koolhead11TREllis, and LTS on essex :P12:41
TRElliseh?12:43
koolhead11TREllis, next after diablo in the 6 month release cycle of openstack :D13:25
TRElliskoolhead11: ah didn't know the next codename13:28
koolhead11TREllis, :d13:47
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SpamapShallyn: around? I'm having some issues getting lxc containers to start on oneiric15:21
SpamapShallyn: ahh, looksl ike cgroup wasn't mounted correctly15:26
hallynSpamapS: hm, cgroups-bin should be getting auto isntalled?15:43
SpamapShallyn: it was installed, but didn't do the right thing. :P15:54
hallynSpamapS: can you file a bug?15:58
hallyn(if you can reproduce)15:58
SpamapShallyn: sure, it may be a while.. too many plates spinning to stop and file a bug ;)15:58
hallynunderstood16:03
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SpamapShallyn: shouldn't lxc-ps --lxc aux show me all the processes running inside containers?16:14
SpamapShrm.. my lxc containers are starting in recovery mode..16:15
hallynrecovery mode?16:16
SpamapSyeah16:16
SpamapSweird16:16
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SpamapShallyn: seems that net-device-up or filesystem is not being emitted..17:13
SpamapSoh.. .. lxc-guest17:14
hallyndid you not create with ubuntu template?17:16
SpamapSI'm still using my uec template17:16
hallynit should either install lxcguest, or do the right rimming17:16
hallynoh17:16
hallynok17:16
hallyns/rimming/trimming btw17:16
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SpamapSI may switch that though, now that I understand how these things work.. I can always just chroot in and install the cloud-init package after the container is created17:17
SpamapShallyn: been thinking about how to get the benefits of LVM w/o having to re-partition the machine.. was wondering if you had tried LVM on top of loopback files.17:19
SpamapShmm.. no that wasn't it17:23
hallynSpamapS: I/we should really spend a few hours getting aufs and/or overlay mounts integrated17:24
hallynthere's even an open bug for it thanks to rcollins :)17:25
SpamapSis overlay mounts a better aufs?17:25
hallynit's a much much simpler mechanism17:25
hallynbasically we'd mount an empty new tmpfs, and then mount that over the container's rootfs17:25
hallyn(overlay mounts only let you mount *one* dir on top of *one* other)17:26
hallyn(but of course you can do that again and again :)17:26
SpamapShallyn: I would predict that our next meeting won't leave much time for optimizations. :-P17:29
SpamapShallyn: so the only way to add packages to the lxc container is to chroot into it right?17:31
hallynor pivot_root into it or start the container :).  (but yes)17:33
hallynoh, as for overlay mounts being a better aufs - in that it's actually upstream (is it now?) and therefore usable on all linux, yes.17:33
SpamapSits in 3.0 yes17:34
hallynyay!17:34
hallynthen I should really whip that up this week17:34
SpamapSsaw it fly by the other day and wondered what it was17:34
hallynoh, presumably mount binary needs an update17:34
SpamapSI still think many of the tools you're working on are 99% the same as schroot/sbuild17:35
SpamapSW/ a slightly different focus17:35
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SpamapSoops! forgot to write meta-data17:39
SpamapShallyn: btw, the ubuntu template is really nice18:13
SpamapShallyn: although --trim has just confused the heck out of me. :-P18:19
SpamapSactually no.. thats not it18:19
SpamapShallyn: hmm.. I think your debootstrap may be missing a key package18:22
SpamapShallyn: w/o ubuntu-keyring, apt doesn't work18:23
SpamapSmight also be a bug in debootstrap18:24
SpamapSyeah, debootstrap should be picking it up as a direct rdepend of apt18:26
SpamapSweird.. so now cloud-init can do apt-get update, but installing packages fails18:40
hallynSpamapS: you're creating oneiric containers right?18:42
SpamapSyeah18:42
SpamapShad to patch the ubuntu template to add ubuntu-keyrung18:42
SpamapSkeyring even18:42
SpamapSotherwise apt will not function18:42
hallynhm, this may be a bug elsewhere as of today.  bc i had weired problems with an schroot i created today18:43
SpamapSand then I chroot in and instal cloud-init and rsyslog ...18:43
SpamapSand the thing boots.. sort of ok.. but fails when trying to install the packages I asked for in my cloud-config18:43
SpamapShallyn: yeah that package sync may be borking things18:43
hallynSpamapS: can you reproduce iwth plain debootstrap, and then ask on -devel?18:44
SpamapShallyn: I'll try again later.. mucking with this as a favor to lifeless but I have other things to attend to. :-P18:44
hallynok18:45
* hallyn is trying now18:45
hallynof course it also might be that you have stale /var/cache/lxc/oneiric18:45
hallynbut lesee if i reproduce18:45
SpamapSno I cleared that a few times18:45
hallynreproduced18:56
hallynreproduced18:59
hallynuh18:59
hallynyeah gnome-terminal is also funky :)18:59
rich_hi, I'm having problems getting clould-init to run cloud-config on ami-1aad527320:58
rich_i see this in cloud-init log20:58
rich_Failed loading of cloud config cloud-init20:58
rich_any ideas anyone?21:00
hallynSpamapS: oh, feh - that's right, lxc-ps (which you mentioned before) isn't going to work right with cgroups right now21:28
SpamapShallyn: bummer21:32
SpamapShallyn: I'd do natty lxc's, but cloud-init is borked in them and I don't feel like dropping in my hacked up cloud-init-local.conf ;)21:35
hallynSpamapS: well you can just remove cgroups-bin and manually mount cgroups,21:35
hallynSpamapS: but are you actually depending on lxc-ps?21:35
SpamapSno no no21:35
SpamapSwas just confused21:35
hallyni've been ignoring it bc it kinda sucks anyway21:35
hallynok21:35
hallyni'm fixing the package shortcoming right now21:36
SpamapShallyn: was referring back to the broken bootstrap21:36
hallynok, long as someone is around to push my fix once i test it, it can be fixed tonight21:36
SpamapSyour fix for the bootstrap?21:41
SpamapSI wonder if we need to even bother "booting" these containers21:42
SpamapSJust tell lxc to run init and sshd.. let cloud-init do the rest.21:42
* SpamapS should stop thinking out loud21:42
hallynSpamapS: you've got your choice of a debdiff attached to the bug, or the bzr tree linked to it :)  care to push?22:07
hallyn( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/817233 )22:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 817233 in lxc "oneiric containers need ubuntu-keyring package" [High,In progress]22:07
SpamapShallyn: shouldn't you have PPU on lxc? ;)22:09
* SpamapS is running sponsor-patch now22:15
SpamapShallyn: uploaded22:22
hallynSpamapS: yeah I should, but I always decide to wait one more day bc (1) I'm not sure if to add it to my PPU set I need to do a whoel new wiki page, and then I think I should just do ubuntu server set, and then I figure I need time to get all the info22:46
hallynso I never get around to it22:47
SpamapSYeah, the DMB is too heavy a process to get enthusiastic about22:48
hallynSpamapS: i do still see a bug with containers on some hosts not shutting down.  need to look into that tomorrow23:00
SpamapShallyn: is the stop action not waiting for them long enough, or is it that the 10 second timeout on all shutdown tasks is too short?23:01
SpamapSI'm not exactly happy with that 10 second thing23:01

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