smoser | erichammond, still around ? | 00:15 |
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smoser | you're more than welcome to start packaging there. in fact i think taht would be great. | 00:15 |
smoser | which autoscaling where you wanting to start on? | 00:16 |
smoser | the rdscli package is i think the best package i have put together. | 00:17 |
erichammond | smoser: Just checked in again, but now heading home. I was thinking of the "as-*" command line tools from AWS. http://aws.amazon.com/developertools/2535 | 02:56 |
erichammond | smoser: Will check out rdscli. Thanks. | 02:56 |
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kim0 | Morning all | 07:30 |
koolhead11 | hi all | 08:20 |
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koolhead11 | TeTeT, ping | 09:22 |
davinci11 | have a ubuntu-cloud problem, | 09:23 |
davinci11 | when I restart instance, installed apache will disappear, it seems like cant permanently store into VM, can anyone facing this problem ? | 09:25 |
davinci11 | can = did | 09:25 |
TeTeT | davinci11: you have this with UEC? Probably you want to have a persistent instance, that stores all data on an EBS volume? | 10:01 |
TeTeT | koolhead11: pong, what's up? | 10:01 |
davinci11 | TeTeT: yes, and I using image from store | 10:03 |
koolhead11 | TeTeT, so UEC on oneric will have openstack (diablo) ? | 10:04 |
TeTeT | davinci11: please have a look at http://people.canonical.com/~tspindler/UEC/ebs-based-instance.pdf , maybe it helps | 10:04 |
TeTeT | koolhead11: I don't know, please ask one of the developers | 10:04 |
TeTeT | koolhead11: I have no oneiric system yet | 10:05 |
davinci11 | Thanks TeTeT, i will try it tomorrow, see if that work, got to go now see u | 10:07 |
TREllis | koolhead11: supposed to be diablo, yeah | 12:39 |
koolhead11 | TREllis, and LTS on essex :P | 12:41 |
TREllis | eh? | 12:43 |
koolhead11 | TREllis, next after diablo in the 6 month release cycle of openstack :D | 13:25 |
TREllis | koolhead11: ah didn't know the next codename | 13:28 |
koolhead11 | TREllis, :d | 13:47 |
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SpamapS | hallyn: around? I'm having some issues getting lxc containers to start on oneiric | 15:21 |
SpamapS | hallyn: ahh, looksl ike cgroup wasn't mounted correctly | 15:26 |
hallyn | SpamapS: hm, cgroups-bin should be getting auto isntalled? | 15:43 |
SpamapS | hallyn: it was installed, but didn't do the right thing. :P | 15:54 |
hallyn | SpamapS: can you file a bug? | 15:58 |
hallyn | (if you can reproduce) | 15:58 |
SpamapS | hallyn: sure, it may be a while.. too many plates spinning to stop and file a bug ;) | 15:58 |
hallyn | understood | 16:03 |
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SpamapS | hallyn: shouldn't lxc-ps --lxc aux show me all the processes running inside containers? | 16:14 |
SpamapS | hrm.. my lxc containers are starting in recovery mode.. | 16:15 |
hallyn | recovery mode? | 16:16 |
SpamapS | yeah | 16:16 |
SpamapS | weird | 16:16 |
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SpamapS | hallyn: seems that net-device-up or filesystem is not being emitted.. | 17:13 |
SpamapS | oh.. .. lxc-guest | 17:14 |
hallyn | did you not create with ubuntu template? | 17:16 |
SpamapS | I'm still using my uec template | 17:16 |
hallyn | it should either install lxcguest, or do the right rimming | 17:16 |
hallyn | oh | 17:16 |
hallyn | ok | 17:16 |
hallyn | s/rimming/trimming btw | 17:16 |
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SpamapS | I may switch that though, now that I understand how these things work.. I can always just chroot in and install the cloud-init package after the container is created | 17:17 |
SpamapS | hallyn: been thinking about how to get the benefits of LVM w/o having to re-partition the machine.. was wondering if you had tried LVM on top of loopback files. | 17:19 |
SpamapS | hmm.. no that wasn't it | 17:23 |
hallyn | SpamapS: I/we should really spend a few hours getting aufs and/or overlay mounts integrated | 17:24 |
hallyn | there's even an open bug for it thanks to rcollins :) | 17:25 |
SpamapS | is overlay mounts a better aufs? | 17:25 |
hallyn | it's a much much simpler mechanism | 17:25 |
hallyn | basically we'd mount an empty new tmpfs, and then mount that over the container's rootfs | 17:25 |
hallyn | (overlay mounts only let you mount *one* dir on top of *one* other) | 17:26 |
hallyn | (but of course you can do that again and again :) | 17:26 |
SpamapS | hallyn: I would predict that our next meeting won't leave much time for optimizations. :-P | 17:29 |
SpamapS | hallyn: so the only way to add packages to the lxc container is to chroot into it right? | 17:31 |
hallyn | or pivot_root into it or start the container :). (but yes) | 17:33 |
hallyn | oh, as for overlay mounts being a better aufs - in that it's actually upstream (is it now?) and therefore usable on all linux, yes. | 17:33 |
SpamapS | its in 3.0 yes | 17:34 |
hallyn | yay! | 17:34 |
hallyn | then I should really whip that up this week | 17:34 |
SpamapS | saw it fly by the other day and wondered what it was | 17:34 |
hallyn | oh, presumably mount binary needs an update | 17:34 |
SpamapS | I still think many of the tools you're working on are 99% the same as schroot/sbuild | 17:35 |
SpamapS | W/ a slightly different focus | 17:35 |
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SpamapS | oops! forgot to write meta-data | 17:39 |
SpamapS | hallyn: btw, the ubuntu template is really nice | 18:13 |
SpamapS | hallyn: although --trim has just confused the heck out of me. :-P | 18:19 |
SpamapS | actually no.. thats not it | 18:19 |
SpamapS | hallyn: hmm.. I think your debootstrap may be missing a key package | 18:22 |
SpamapS | hallyn: w/o ubuntu-keyring, apt doesn't work | 18:23 |
SpamapS | might also be a bug in debootstrap | 18:24 |
SpamapS | yeah, debootstrap should be picking it up as a direct rdepend of apt | 18:26 |
SpamapS | weird.. so now cloud-init can do apt-get update, but installing packages fails | 18:40 |
hallyn | SpamapS: you're creating oneiric containers right? | 18:42 |
SpamapS | yeah | 18:42 |
SpamapS | had to patch the ubuntu template to add ubuntu-keyrung | 18:42 |
SpamapS | keyring even | 18:42 |
SpamapS | otherwise apt will not function | 18:42 |
hallyn | hm, this may be a bug elsewhere as of today. bc i had weired problems with an schroot i created today | 18:43 |
SpamapS | and then I chroot in and instal cloud-init and rsyslog ... | 18:43 |
SpamapS | and the thing boots.. sort of ok.. but fails when trying to install the packages I asked for in my cloud-config | 18:43 |
SpamapS | hallyn: yeah that package sync may be borking things | 18:43 |
hallyn | SpamapS: can you reproduce iwth plain debootstrap, and then ask on -devel? | 18:44 |
SpamapS | hallyn: I'll try again later.. mucking with this as a favor to lifeless but I have other things to attend to. :-P | 18:44 |
hallyn | ok | 18:45 |
* hallyn is trying now | 18:45 | |
hallyn | of course it also might be that you have stale /var/cache/lxc/oneiric | 18:45 |
hallyn | but lesee if i reproduce | 18:45 |
SpamapS | no I cleared that a few times | 18:45 |
hallyn | reproduced | 18:56 |
hallyn | reproduced | 18:59 |
hallyn | uh | 18:59 |
hallyn | yeah gnome-terminal is also funky :) | 18:59 |
rich_ | hi, I'm having problems getting clould-init to run cloud-config on ami-1aad5273 | 20:58 |
rich_ | i see this in cloud-init log | 20:58 |
rich_ | Failed loading of cloud config cloud-init | 20:58 |
rich_ | any ideas anyone? | 21:00 |
hallyn | SpamapS: oh, feh - that's right, lxc-ps (which you mentioned before) isn't going to work right with cgroups right now | 21:28 |
SpamapS | hallyn: bummer | 21:32 |
SpamapS | hallyn: I'd do natty lxc's, but cloud-init is borked in them and I don't feel like dropping in my hacked up cloud-init-local.conf ;) | 21:35 |
hallyn | SpamapS: well you can just remove cgroups-bin and manually mount cgroups, | 21:35 |
hallyn | SpamapS: but are you actually depending on lxc-ps? | 21:35 |
SpamapS | no no no | 21:35 |
SpamapS | was just confused | 21:35 |
hallyn | i've been ignoring it bc it kinda sucks anyway | 21:35 |
hallyn | ok | 21:35 |
hallyn | i'm fixing the package shortcoming right now | 21:36 |
SpamapS | hallyn: was referring back to the broken bootstrap | 21:36 |
hallyn | ok, long as someone is around to push my fix once i test it, it can be fixed tonight | 21:36 |
SpamapS | your fix for the bootstrap? | 21:41 |
SpamapS | I wonder if we need to even bother "booting" these containers | 21:42 |
SpamapS | Just tell lxc to run init and sshd.. let cloud-init do the rest. | 21:42 |
* SpamapS should stop thinking out loud | 21:42 | |
hallyn | SpamapS: you've got your choice of a debdiff attached to the bug, or the bzr tree linked to it :) care to push? | 22:07 |
hallyn | ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/817233 ) | 22:07 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 817233 in lxc "oneiric containers need ubuntu-keyring package" [High,In progress] | 22:07 |
SpamapS | hallyn: shouldn't you have PPU on lxc? ;) | 22:09 |
* SpamapS is running sponsor-patch now | 22:15 | |
SpamapS | hallyn: uploaded | 22:22 |
hallyn | SpamapS: yeah I should, but I always decide to wait one more day bc (1) I'm not sure if to add it to my PPU set I need to do a whoel new wiki page, and then I think I should just do ubuntu server set, and then I figure I need time to get all the info | 22:46 |
hallyn | so I never get around to it | 22:47 |
SpamapS | Yeah, the DMB is too heavy a process to get enthusiastic about | 22:48 |
hallyn | SpamapS: i do still see a bug with containers on some hosts not shutting down. need to look into that tomorrow | 23:00 |
SpamapS | hallyn: is the stop action not waiting for them long enough, or is it that the 10 second timeout on all shutdown tasks is too short? | 23:01 |
SpamapS | I'm not exactly happy with that 10 second thing | 23:01 |
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