[00:15] <smoser> erichammond, still around ?
[00:15] <smoser> you're more than welcome to start packaging there. in fact i think taht would be great.
[00:16] <smoser> which autoscaling where you wanting to start on?
[00:17] <smoser> the rdscli package is i think the best package i have put together.
[02:56] <erichammond> smoser: Just checked in again, but now heading home.  I was thinking of the "as-*" command line tools from AWS. http://aws.amazon.com/developertools/2535
[02:56] <erichammond> smoser: Will check out rdscli. Thanks.
[07:30] <kim0> Morning all
[08:20] <koolhead11> hi all
[09:22] <koolhead11> TeTeT, ping
[09:23] <davinci11>  have a ubuntu-cloud problem,
[09:25] <davinci11> when I restart instance, installed apache will disappear, it seems like cant permanently store into VM, can anyone facing this problem ?
[09:25] <davinci11> can = did
[10:01] <TeTeT> davinci11: you have this with UEC? Probably you want to have a persistent instance, that stores all data on an EBS volume?
[10:01] <TeTeT> koolhead11: pong, what's up?
[10:03] <davinci11> TeTeT: yes, and I using image from store
[10:04] <koolhead11> TeTeT, so UEC on oneric will have openstack (diablo) ?
[10:04] <TeTeT> davinci11: please have a look at http://people.canonical.com/~tspindler/UEC/ebs-based-instance.pdf , maybe it helps
[10:04] <TeTeT> koolhead11: I don't know, please ask one of the developers
[10:05] <TeTeT> koolhead11: I have no oneiric system yet
[10:07] <davinci11> Thanks TeTeT, i will try it tomorrow, see if that work, got to go now see u
[12:39] <TREllis> koolhead11: supposed to be diablo, yeah
[12:41] <koolhead11> TREllis, and LTS on essex :P
[12:43] <TREllis> eh?
[13:25] <koolhead11> TREllis, next after diablo in the 6 month release cycle of openstack :D
[13:28] <TREllis> koolhead11: ah didn't know the next codename
[13:47] <koolhead11> TREllis, :d
[15:21] <SpamapS> hallyn: around? I'm having some issues getting lxc containers to start on oneiric
[15:26] <SpamapS> hallyn: ahh, looksl ike cgroup wasn't mounted correctly
[15:43] <hallyn> SpamapS: hm, cgroups-bin should be getting auto isntalled?
[15:54] <SpamapS> hallyn: it was installed, but didn't do the right thing. :P
[15:58] <hallyn> SpamapS: can you file a bug?
[15:58] <hallyn> (if you can reproduce)
[15:58] <SpamapS> hallyn: sure, it may be a while.. too many plates spinning to stop and file a bug ;)
[16:03] <hallyn> understood
[16:14] <SpamapS> hallyn: shouldn't lxc-ps --lxc aux show me all the processes running inside containers?
[16:15] <SpamapS> hrm.. my lxc containers are starting in recovery mode..
[16:16] <hallyn> recovery mode?
[16:16] <SpamapS> yeah
[16:16] <SpamapS> weird
[17:13] <SpamapS> hallyn: seems that net-device-up or filesystem is not being emitted..
[17:14] <SpamapS> oh.. .. lxc-guest
[17:16] <hallyn> did you not create with ubuntu template?
[17:16] <SpamapS> I'm still using my uec template
[17:16] <hallyn> it should either install lxcguest, or do the right rimming
[17:16] <hallyn> oh
[17:16] <hallyn> ok
[17:16] <hallyn> s/rimming/trimming btw
[17:17] <SpamapS> I may switch that though, now that I understand how these things work.. I can always just chroot in and install the cloud-init package after the container is created
[17:19] <SpamapS> hallyn: been thinking about how to get the benefits of LVM w/o having to re-partition the machine.. was wondering if you had tried LVM on top of loopback files.
[17:23] <SpamapS> hmm.. no that wasn't it
[17:24] <hallyn> SpamapS: I/we should really spend a few hours getting aufs and/or overlay mounts integrated
[17:25] <hallyn> there's even an open bug for it thanks to rcollins :)
[17:25] <SpamapS> is overlay mounts a better aufs?
[17:25] <hallyn> it's a much much simpler mechanism
[17:25] <hallyn> basically we'd mount an empty new tmpfs, and then mount that over the container's rootfs
[17:26] <hallyn> (overlay mounts only let you mount *one* dir on top of *one* other)
[17:26] <hallyn> (but of course you can do that again and again :)
[17:29] <SpamapS> hallyn: I would predict that our next meeting won't leave much time for optimizations. :-P
[17:31] <SpamapS> hallyn: so the only way to add packages to the lxc container is to chroot into it right?
[17:33] <hallyn> or pivot_root into it or start the container :).  (but yes)
[17:33] <hallyn> oh, as for overlay mounts being a better aufs - in that it's actually upstream (is it now?) and therefore usable on all linux, yes.
[17:34] <SpamapS> its in 3.0 yes
[17:34] <hallyn> yay!
[17:34] <hallyn> then I should really whip that up this week
[17:34] <SpamapS> saw it fly by the other day and wondered what it was
[17:34] <hallyn> oh, presumably mount binary needs an update
[17:35] <SpamapS> I still think many of the tools you're working on are 99% the same as schroot/sbuild
[17:35] <SpamapS> W/ a slightly different focus
[17:39] <SpamapS> oops! forgot to write meta-data
[18:13] <SpamapS> hallyn: btw, the ubuntu template is really nice
[18:19] <SpamapS> hallyn: although --trim has just confused the heck out of me. :-P
[18:19] <SpamapS> actually no.. thats not it
[18:22] <SpamapS> hallyn: hmm.. I think your debootstrap may be missing a key package
[18:23] <SpamapS> hallyn: w/o ubuntu-keyring, apt doesn't work
[18:24] <SpamapS> might also be a bug in debootstrap
[18:26] <SpamapS> yeah, debootstrap should be picking it up as a direct rdepend of apt
[18:40] <SpamapS> weird.. so now cloud-init can do apt-get update, but installing packages fails
[18:42] <hallyn> SpamapS: you're creating oneiric containers right?
[18:42] <SpamapS> yeah
[18:42] <SpamapS> had to patch the ubuntu template to add ubuntu-keyrung
[18:42] <SpamapS> keyring even
[18:42] <SpamapS> otherwise apt will not function
[18:43] <hallyn> hm, this may be a bug elsewhere as of today.  bc i had weired problems with an schroot i created today
[18:43] <SpamapS> and then I chroot in and instal cloud-init and rsyslog ...
[18:43] <SpamapS> and the thing boots.. sort of ok.. but fails when trying to install the packages I asked for in my cloud-config
[18:43] <SpamapS> hallyn: yeah that package sync may be borking things
[18:44] <hallyn> SpamapS: can you reproduce iwth plain debootstrap, and then ask on -devel?
[18:44] <SpamapS> hallyn: I'll try again later.. mucking with this as a favor to lifeless but I have other things to attend to. :-P
[18:45] <hallyn> ok
[18:45]  * hallyn is trying now
[18:45] <hallyn> of course it also might be that you have stale /var/cache/lxc/oneiric
[18:45] <hallyn> but lesee if i reproduce
[18:45] <SpamapS> no I cleared that a few times
[18:56] <hallyn> reproduced
[18:59] <hallyn> reproduced
[18:59] <hallyn> uh
[18:59] <hallyn> yeah gnome-terminal is also funky :)
[20:58] <rich_> hi, I'm having problems getting clould-init to run cloud-config on ami-1aad5273
[20:58] <rich_> i see this in cloud-init log
[20:58] <rich_> Failed loading of cloud config cloud-init
[21:00] <rich_> any ideas anyone?
[21:28] <hallyn> SpamapS: oh, feh - that's right, lxc-ps (which you mentioned before) isn't going to work right with cgroups right now
[21:32] <SpamapS> hallyn: bummer
[21:35] <SpamapS> hallyn: I'd do natty lxc's, but cloud-init is borked in them and I don't feel like dropping in my hacked up cloud-init-local.conf ;)
[21:35] <hallyn> SpamapS: well you can just remove cgroups-bin and manually mount cgroups,
[21:35] <hallyn> SpamapS: but are you actually depending on lxc-ps?
[21:35] <SpamapS> no no no
[21:35] <SpamapS> was just confused
[21:35] <hallyn> i've been ignoring it bc it kinda sucks anyway
[21:35] <hallyn> ok
[21:36] <hallyn> i'm fixing the package shortcoming right now
[21:36] <SpamapS> hallyn: was referring back to the broken bootstrap
[21:36] <hallyn> ok, long as someone is around to push my fix once i test it, it can be fixed tonight
[21:41] <SpamapS> your fix for the bootstrap?
[21:42] <SpamapS> I wonder if we need to even bother "booting" these containers
[21:42] <SpamapS> Just tell lxc to run init and sshd.. let cloud-init do the rest.
[21:42]  * SpamapS should stop thinking out loud
[22:07] <hallyn> SpamapS: you've got your choice of a debdiff attached to the bug, or the bzr tree linked to it :)  care to push?
[22:07] <hallyn> ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/817233 )
[22:09] <SpamapS> hallyn: shouldn't you have PPU on lxc? ;)
[22:15]  * SpamapS is running sponsor-patch now
[22:22] <SpamapS> hallyn: uploaded
[22:46] <hallyn> SpamapS: yeah I should, but I always decide to wait one more day bc (1) I'm not sure if to add it to my PPU set I need to do a whoel new wiki page, and then I think I should just do ubuntu server set, and then I figure I need time to get all the info
[22:47] <hallyn> so I never get around to it
[22:48] <SpamapS> Yeah, the DMB is too heavy a process to get enthusiastic about
[23:00] <hallyn> SpamapS: i do still see a bug with containers on some hosts not shutting down.  need to look into that tomorrow
[23:01] <SpamapS> hallyn: is the stop action not waiting for them long enough, or is it that the 10 second timeout on all shutdown tasks is too short?
[23:01] <SpamapS> I'm not exactly happy with that 10 second thing