| doctormo | pleia2: Nice photos of you at FOSSCON | 03:58 |
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| pleia2 | doctormo: thanks | 03:58 |
| doctormo | I spy reasons to love to, nice :-D | 03:59 |
| doctormo | I have an owl! | 03:59 |
| pleia2 | yeah, that was one of my "you can contribute with design!" slides :) | 03:59 |
| pleia2 | an owl? | 03:59 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Minoly surprised me with an owl art: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/art/Night%20moon%20owl.svg | 04:00 |
| doctormo | I know it's a bit late for ubuntu-learning-materials, but it's still cute. | 04:01 |
| doctormo | Mimoly* | 04:01 |
| pleia2 | aw, nice :) | 04:01 |
| doctormo | pleia2: I've been putting my art to good use, floor ethernet maps of the BHA community centers. They get taped to the inside of the electrical closets | 04:03 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: as a sysadmin who has to deal with undocumented networks, I love you for that :) | 04:03 |
| doctormo | pleia2: I thought you might approve, could you peer review here: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/charlestown-plan.svg | 04:04 |
| pleia2 | blues go into the 16 and purples into the 8? | 04:05 |
| doctormo | pleia2: yes | 04:05 |
| pleia2 | looks good | 04:05 |
| doctormo | There are 10 of these centers, some don't even have ethernet infrastructure. | 04:06 |
| doctormo | just wires along the ground. | 04:06 |
| pleia2 | not surprising | 04:06 |
| pleia2 | in the schools we've worked in we pretty much have to run all the ethernet, if they had computers before us they either weren't networked or were poorly wired | 04:07 |
| pleia2 | and we still need to run them when we want connectivity in individual classrooms, woo wire crimpers :) | 04:08 |
| nigelb | s/woo/eewww/g :P | 04:10 |
| pleia2 | it's actually surprisingly satisfying work now and then | 04:11 |
| nigelb | ha! | 04:11 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Do you install good permanent infrastructure, or is it just temp? | 04:12 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: I wouldn't say "good" but for all intents and purposes it is permanent | 04:13 |
| pleia2 | budget is pretty much non-existant so we do what we can with what we have | 04:14 |
| doctormo | pleia2: Yeah, in a lot of cases I end up repairing or making do. | 04:15 |
| doctormo | In the site you just saw, when i got there, 12% of the ethernet ducts were falling off the walls. | 04:15 |
| doctormo | Some strong outdoor double sided tape, and their all repaired. No sense waiting for the network to die because wires got cut from the infrastructure literally falling around their ears. | 04:16 |
| pleia2 | we go through walls when we can, but a lot of these buildings are old and all we can reasonably do is run wires along the tops of doorways down hallways | 04:18 |
| pleia2 | (our ethernet is not the only wires running through the hallways) | 04:18 |
| doctormo | Mary Ellen has that issue, there is NO WAY to get anything inside a stone wall. Not even screw holes. | 04:19 |
| * pleia2 nods | 04:19 | |
| doctormo | I ended up fixing the projector screen with same double sided tape, with some screws at the bottom for weight. | 04:20 |
| doctormo | Pretty cool though, cieling paint, tape and two old cork boards chopped up. | 04:20 |
| pleia2 | it's amazing how creative one gets :) | 04:21 |
| doctormo | No amount of megivering could create a projector though. Donation from HDS away! ;-) | 04:22 |
| pleia2 | nice, working projectors are rare finds! | 04:23 |
| doctormo | pleia2: See pictures here: https://plus.google.com/102241005050666075649 | 04:24 |
| pleia2 | haha, excellent | 04:25 |
| doctormo | That wall blunted 3 masonry bits, one quite expensive one. | 04:25 |
| pleia2 | heh, ouch | 04:27 |
| pleia2 | I have to say that as rewarding it is to work on these things I do still feel guilty about having a government that allows schools to be in such disrepair and without access to reasonable resources | 04:30 |
| doctormo | pleia2: I feel annoyed, more than guilty, that recoures are being wasted. Not just on Bug#1 bullshit. But also on constractors that neither care or know anything. | 04:34 |
| doctormo | It's like they're stuck hiring from bottom of the pile because they don't know any better. | 04:34 |
| doctormo | resources* | 04:34 |
| pleia2 | yeah, and so much red tape and bureaucracy so the people who can get contracts are stupid limited | 04:38 |
| pleia2 | we're only there because we're volunteers | 04:38 |
| doctormo | pleia2: I think I might be in a position with less red tape, only for the fact that BHA.IT=0, so they don't actually have any confidence either over their IT. | 04:43 |
| doctormo | But that means that unscrupulous contracts can take advantage, another issue to raise the blood presure. | 04:44 |
| pleia2 | yeah :\ | 04:45 |
| nigelb | Well, I wish there was a place for open source people to be found for contracts. | 04:47 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:02 |
| kim0 | Morning all | 07:30 |
| === daker_ is now known as daker | ||
| czajkowski | Aloha | 09:22 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: ping, do you have the wiki scraping script you used the other day | 09:58 |
| AlanBell | hmm, I never finished that little project | 09:59 |
| AlanBell | the wiki has throttling built in so it takes ages, all I did was get a list of all pages and wget them in a script | 09:59 |
| AlanBell | wget the raw page of each that is | 09:59 |
| AlanBell | http://paste.ubuntu.com/652995/ | 10:01 |
| nigelb | aha, need to pass and emtpy user agent | 10:06 |
| nigelb | my friend was trying something like this elsewhere and ran into similar issues | 10:06 |
| AlanBell | yes, the wiki blocks wget, so pretend to be something else | 10:36 |
| nigelb | heh | 10:37 |
| kim0 | Howdy folks .. Would be interested in uploading Cloud-days sessions to the wiki, and linking them up to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays/Timetable | 10:52 |
| === jussi01_ is now known as jussi | ||
| duanedesign | morning all | 12:00 |
| nigelb | Morning duanedesign | 12:07 |
| jcastro | morning | 13:01 |
| nigelb | Good morning jcastro. Internet etc all set? | 13:04 |
| jcastro | nigelb: yep, all set! | 13:08 |
| jcastro | kim0: can you check the ensemble report? | 13:08 |
| jcastro | I think I got everything, just needs a once over | 13:09 |
| kim0 | jcastro: yeah gimme a moment | 13:09 |
| nigelb | jcastro: \o/ | 13:09 |
| jcastro | kim0: yeah no rush | 13:12 |
| czajkowski | *sigh* | 13:29 |
| mhall119 | morning | 13:29 |
| czajkowski | I do wish people wouldn't blame the Lc when we are trying to do stuff especially when it's not our fault and decisions were made without us | 13:30 |
| jcastro | I BLAME PAULTAG | 13:30 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: nope to be fair he's helping us, given we're getting the blame for something and trying to fix something that is't really a LC issue it's a LD issue | 13:31 |
| czajkowski | on the plus side yay for canonical for sponsoring oggcamp :) | 13:31 |
| jcastro | OMG | 13:41 |
| jcastro | http://randall.executiv.es/jam-o-meter | 13:42 |
| jcastro | that is /brilliant/. | 13:42 |
| jcastro | dholbach: ^ | 13:42 |
| jcastro | man, why didn't we think of that before | 13:42 |
| paultag | jcastro: always :) | 13:51 |
| paultag | Just got an android phone, first once since my G1 | 13:52 |
| paultag | it's nice. Comes with HTC crapware apps. I can't seem to uninstall them | 13:52 |
| paultag | guess that means it's time to root / hack the ROM | 13:52 |
| jussi | paultag: want a app recommendation? | 13:53 |
| paultag | How stupid is that. I don't want your stupid apps, so I'm going to have to cause the phone to be in an unpredictable state. Gah. | 13:53 |
| paultag | jussi: yes, please! | 13:53 |
| jussi | viber :) | 13:53 |
| paultag | jussi: viber? | 13:53 |
| paultag | jussi: oh cool free calls and such | 13:54 |
| paultag | jussi: thanks :) | 13:54 |
| jussi | paultag: SIP, but linked to your phone number, auto populates contact via those that registered with their phone number against your phone book | 13:54 |
| paultag | jussi: radical, thanks man :) | 13:54 |
| paultag | I need to get star trek noises for the phone, at some point | 13:55 |
| jussi | hehe | 13:55 |
| paultag | HTC Inspire, not a bad unit | 13:56 |
| paultag | I like phones that feel metal-ey | 13:56 |
| kim0 | jcastro: I've added a few things to http://pad.ubuntu.com/ensemble-report | 14:02 |
| jcastro | oh man | 14:03 |
| jcastro | How did I miss this services thing | 14:03 |
| kim0 | jcastro: I also see a few new formulas couchdb, memcached, rabbitmq .. those should be mentioned right ? | 14:05 |
| jcastro | I can add them | 14:06 |
| jcastro | ok I was having a hard time figuring out which formulas are new | 14:06 |
| kim0 | couch is not really new .. just updated for port exposing | 14:06 |
| jcastro | I did sort my recently changed in principia | 14:06 |
| kim0 | cool go ahead and add those then | 14:06 |
| jcastro | cool, then I just push it out on cloud.u.c? | 14:07 |
| kim0 | yeah and tag with whatever tags + planet | 14:07 |
| kim0 | so it goes to planet | 14:07 |
| jcastro | ah, right | 14:08 |
| jcastro | one thing tumblr does that I wish wordpress did ootb | 14:09 |
| jcastro | is you can just publish things to a queue | 14:10 |
| jcastro | and then it times them out so they post evenly | 14:10 |
| jcastro | kim0: how did you determine the formulas to mention? Do you just manually go through them all and check them out or do you have a smart way? | 14:11 |
| kim0 | jcastro: no smart way .. just sorting by last modified and the commit number helps to know if it's new or not :) | 14:13 |
| * jcastro nods | 14:14 | |
| jcastro | kim0: oh in the source tree? or in launchpad | 14:14 |
| kim0 | just lp | 14:14 |
| kim0 | there is no single source tree for formulas | 14:15 |
| jcastro | juan made that list script | 14:15 |
| jcastro | but I haven't tried it | 14:15 |
| jcastro | I must be missing something, I can't find the bugs for memached or rabbit | 14:16 |
| kim0 | jcastro: just check out https://code.launchpad.net/principia | 14:18 |
| kim0 | there might be no bugs indeed | 14:18 |
| jcastro | ah right | 14:18 |
| jcastro | I was looking for the bugs for the list, I see where the formulas themselves are | 14:18 |
| jcastro | I'll just reformat it different. | 14:18 |
| jcastro | kim0: ok weird, can you try to do a fresh branch of principia? | 14:25 |
| jcastro | I get some dumb bzr/lp error | 14:25 |
| kim0 | jcastro: there is none | 14:26 |
| kim0 | principia is now a "distro" whatever that means .. there is no single source tree that has all formulas | 14:26 |
| jcastro | ugh | 14:26 |
| jcastro | crap | 14:26 |
| paultag | jcastro: and what exactly would you do with sourcecode? | 14:27 |
| jcastro | search through logs, look at which ones are new | 14:28 |
| jcastro | read comments | 14:28 |
| paultag | carry on | 14:28 |
| jcastro | I don't need to be a rocket scientist to read a bash script that says "apt-get -y install rabbitmq" :) | 14:29 |
| paultag | jcastro: well no, rocket scientists can't code. I'd not think you had to be | 14:29 |
| paultag | jcastro: a programmer, on the other hand? | 14:29 |
| paultag | perchance | 14:29 |
| paultag | see? I'm being a snarky wiseass. It's how I get through the day | 14:30 |
| jcastro | kim0: the first few comments on that cloud post you linked to are hilarious | 14:30 |
| kim0 | jcastro: heh yeah weirdo | 14:30 |
| jcastro | wordpress needs an etherpad plugin | 14:32 |
| jcastro | so people can work on the same article in WP instead of copying it over to WP | 14:32 |
| paultag | hummm | 14:32 |
| paultag | that's actually not a bad idea | 14:32 |
| paultag | if etherpad was not in java, that'd work brilliantly | 14:32 |
| paultag | but you'd be forced to run Tomcat and Apache, which I'm pretty sure even the NSA can't run | 14:33 |
| paultag | Also, it'd throw a cross-site scripting shit-fit unless you can plumb a fake request server in front of it | 14:33 |
| doctormo | paultag: I recommend more fiber in your diet ;-) | 14:34 |
| paultag | doctormo: :) | 14:34 |
| doctormo | paultag: Also, move etherpad to django, can't take more than 5 mins. | 14:35 |
| jcastro | kim0: ok all I need now is a catchy title | 14:35 |
| paultag | doctormo: hehehe | 14:35 |
| jcastro | someone made etherpad-lite on node.js | 14:35 |
| jcastro | it looks pretty badass | 14:35 |
| doctormo | Job done, get it packaged and lets grab a drink. | 14:35 |
| dholbach | jcastro, yeah, I saw it - it's awesome | 14:35 |
| kim0 | the creative bits again :) | 14:35 |
| jcastro | got it! | 14:41 |
| jcastro | man | 14:51 |
| jcastro | there's this beautiful heron in my back yard | 14:51 |
| paultag | wow, my mind is messed up | 14:51 |
| paultag | (my brain said s/heron/heroin/) | 14:52 |
| cjohnston | jcastro: have you moved in? | 15:05 |
| jcastro | yeah | 15:06 |
| cjohnston | sweet | 15:08 |
| * cjohnston is headed down for a party | 15:08 | |
| cjohnston | (at jcastro's place) | 15:08 |
| czajkowski | paultag: me too | 15:13 |
| czajkowski | :/ | 15:13 |
| cjohnston | jcastro: on uds.u.c can you add as the last link on the main nav "Today" pointing to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/today but keep it hidden please? | 15:23 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - I have a train to catch - I'll see you tomorrow | 15:29 |
| dholbach | HUGS | 15:29 |
| cjohnston | o/ | 15:29 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: oh right, good idea | 15:30 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: hey, dumb question, what do y'all set your thermostat to around here? | 15:30 |
| cjohnston | lol.. 77 day, 74 night here.. | 15:30 |
| cjohnston | but we cant afford cooler | 15:30 |
| jcastro | does summit.u.c/today work? | 15:31 |
| jcastro | why doe we make it uds-specific? | 15:32 |
| cjohnston | we made it uds specific so that we can run simultaneous events | 15:33 |
| jcastro | there doesn't seem to be a way to hide a menu option | 15:34 |
| cjohnston | i thought there was | 15:34 |
| jcastro | just a link | 15:34 |
| jcastro | easy enough to add when we get there | 15:34 |
| cjohnston | well.. we were waiting on you to move to add it to summit | 15:35 |
| jcastro | no one ever asked me to add it to the main menu? | 15:35 |
| cjohnston | the patch for summit was ready the end of last week | 15:35 |
| cjohnston | you were getting ready to leave | 15:35 |
| cjohnston | so we left you alone | 15:36 |
| cjohnston | "waiting on you to move" | 15:36 |
| dpm | hi technoviking, do you know if is there an api or any way in which subforums from the Ubuntu forums can be shown from an external site? I.e. a wordpress site showing a view of the latest entries or something like that? | 15:44 |
| nhandler | dpm: You could use a frame of some sort or use a script to screenscrape it | 15:47 |
| === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch | ||
| nigelb | jcastro: nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/07/27/summit-improvements-and-bugfixes.html <3 | 16:28 |
| mhall119 | lack of http:// means it's not clickable in gnome-terminal | 16:28 |
| nigelb | mhall119: http://nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/07/27/summit-improvements-and-bugfixes.html | 16:29 |
| === cypher is now known as czajkowski | ||
| czajkowski | hmm | 16:30 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: nice list | 16:32 |
| nigelb | mhall119: awk/perl goodness thanks to maco :) | 16:34 |
| mhall119 | +1 maco | 16:34 |
| nhandler | nigelb: I like the font for the title. I thought it was animage at first | 16:36 |
| nigelb | nhandler: Its from google webfonts | 16:37 |
| nigelb | It had a lovely childness to it which I liked | 16:37 |
| czajkowski | I could so do with a drink | 16:37 |
| cjohnston | it represents you well | 16:37 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: hah | 16:40 |
| jcastro | <-- lunching | 16:46 |
| === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado | ||
| dpm | nhandler, thanks | 17:21 |
| jcastro | popey: ping | 17:31 |
| === daker is now known as daker_ | ||
| nigelb | <3 that there's a section for Ubuntu Unity in http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/610 | 18:00 |
| paultag | nigelb: pro | 18:16 |
| paultag | d | 18:16 |
| nigelb | paultag: huh? | 18:17 |
| paultag | nigelb: prod :) | 18:17 |
| nigelb | paultag: ah, pon | 18:17 |
| nigelb | g | 18:17 |
| nigelb | :P | 18:17 |
| paultag | nigelb: I have an idea for an android app that will make us crazy happy with ourselvs | 18:17 |
| paultag | nigelb: if you have some time to hack with your ole' friend paul | 18:17 |
| nigelb | paultag: yessir, but after I finish my dream android app ;) | 18:18 |
| nigelb | lets move to a PM :D | 18:18 |
| paultag | nigelb: mkay :) | 18:18 |
| paultag | nigelb: kk | 18:18 |
| nigelb | oh wow -> http://www.romancortes.com/blog/pure-css-coke-can/ | 18:33 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: ping | 19:46 |
| jcastro | hi | 19:47 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: is jono on tody ? | 19:48 |
| czajkowski | I ask as I've a call in a few hours wiht him | 19:48 |
| jcastro | I think he's at oscon still | 19:50 |
| jcastro | "enjoy the silence" is what I recommend. :D | 19:50 |
| czajkowski | fair enough | 19:50 |
| czajkowski | back to testing mates application so | 19:51 |
| czajkowski | kinda nice to be back writing test cases and finding bugs on a new system | 19:51 |
| daker | more linkedin spam :/ | 20:37 |
| czajkowski | it's really annoying on the ML | 20:53 |
| daker | it's linkedin fault, it sends reminders periodically | 20:55 |
| maco | also it defaults to "select all" i think | 20:57 |
| nhandler | I don't see most of it, but it is possible for a list admin to block all linkedin spam from the list | 20:58 |
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