[03:58] pleia2: Nice photos of you at FOSSCON [03:58] doctormo: thanks [03:59] I spy reasons to love to, nice :-D [03:59] I have an owl! [03:59] yeah, that was one of my "you can contribute with design!" slides :) [03:59] an owl? [04:00] pleia2: Minoly surprised me with an owl art: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/art/Night%20moon%20owl.svg [04:01] I know it's a bit late for ubuntu-learning-materials, but it's still cute. [04:01] Mimoly* [04:01] aw, nice :) [04:03] pleia2: I've been putting my art to good use, floor ethernet maps of the BHA community centers. They get taped to the inside of the electrical closets [04:03] doctormo: as a sysadmin who has to deal with undocumented networks, I love you for that :) [04:04] pleia2: I thought you might approve, could you peer review here: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/charlestown-plan.svg [04:05] blues go into the 16 and purples into the 8? [04:05] pleia2: yes [04:05] looks good [04:06] There are 10 of these centers, some don't even have ethernet infrastructure. [04:06] just wires along the ground. [04:06] not surprising [04:07] in the schools we've worked in we pretty much have to run all the ethernet, if they had computers before us they either weren't networked or were poorly wired [04:08] and we still need to run them when we want connectivity in individual classrooms, woo wire crimpers :) [04:10] s/woo/eewww/g :P [04:11] it's actually surprisingly satisfying work now and then [04:11] ha! [04:12] pleia2: Do you install good permanent infrastructure, or is it just temp? [04:13] doctormo: I wouldn't say "good" but for all intents and purposes it is permanent [04:14] budget is pretty much non-existant so we do what we can with what we have [04:15] pleia2: Yeah, in a lot of cases I end up repairing or making do. [04:15] In the site you just saw, when i got there, 12% of the ethernet ducts were falling off the walls. [04:16] Some strong outdoor double sided tape, and their all repaired. No sense waiting for the network to die because wires got cut from the infrastructure literally falling around their ears. [04:18] we go through walls when we can, but a lot of these buildings are old and all we can reasonably do is run wires along the tops of doorways down hallways [04:18] (our ethernet is not the only wires running through the hallways) [04:19] Mary Ellen has that issue, there is NO WAY to get anything inside a stone wall. Not even screw holes. [04:19] * pleia2 nods [04:20] I ended up fixing the projector screen with same double sided tape, with some screws at the bottom for weight. [04:20] Pretty cool though, cieling paint, tape and two old cork boards chopped up. [04:21] it's amazing how creative one gets :) [04:22] No amount of megivering could create a projector though. Donation from HDS away! ;-) [04:23] nice, working projectors are rare finds! [04:24] pleia2: See pictures here: https://plus.google.com/102241005050666075649 [04:25] haha, excellent [04:25] That wall blunted 3 masonry bits, one quite expensive one. [04:27] heh, ouch [04:30] I have to say that as rewarding it is to work on these things I do still feel guilty about having a government that allows schools to be in such disrepair and without access to reasonable resources [04:34] pleia2: I feel annoyed, more than guilty, that recoures are being wasted. Not just on Bug#1 bullshit. But also on constractors that neither care or know anything. [04:34] It's like they're stuck hiring from bottom of the pile because they don't know any better. [04:34] resources* [04:38] yeah, and so much red tape and bureaucracy so the people who can get contracts are stupid limited [04:38] we're only there because we're volunteers [04:43] pleia2: I think I might be in a position with less red tape, only for the fact that BHA.IT=0, so they don't actually have any confidence either over their IT. [04:44] But that means that unscrupulous contracts can take advantage, another issue to raise the blood presure. [04:45] yeah :\ [04:47] Well, I wish there was a place for open source people to be found for contracts. [07:02] good morning [07:30] Morning all === daker_ is now known as daker [09:22] Aloha [09:58] AlanBell: ping, do you have the wiki scraping script you used the other day [09:59] hmm, I never finished that little project [09:59] the wiki has throttling built in so it takes ages, all I did was get a list of all pages and wget them in a script [09:59] wget the raw page of each that is [10:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/652995/ [10:06] aha, need to pass and emtpy user agent [10:06] my friend was trying something like this elsewhere and ran into similar issues [10:36] yes, the wiki blocks wget, so pretend to be something else [10:37] heh [10:52] Howdy folks .. Would be interested in uploading Cloud-days sessions to the wiki, and linking them up to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays/Timetable === jussi01_ is now known as jussi [12:00] morning all [12:07] Morning duanedesign [13:01] morning [13:04] Good morning jcastro. Internet etc all set? [13:08] nigelb: yep, all set! [13:08] kim0: can you check the ensemble report? [13:09] I think I got everything, just needs a once over [13:09] jcastro: yeah gimme a moment [13:09] jcastro: \o/ [13:12] kim0: yeah no rush [13:29] *sigh* [13:29] morning [13:30] I do wish people wouldn't blame the Lc when we are trying to do stuff especially when it's not our fault and decisions were made without us [13:30] I BLAME PAULTAG [13:31] jcastro: nope to be fair he's helping us, given we're getting the blame for something and trying to fix something that is't really a LC issue it's a LD issue [13:31] on the plus side yay for canonical for sponsoring oggcamp :) [13:41] OMG [13:42] http://randall.executiv.es/jam-o-meter [13:42] that is /brilliant/. [13:42] dholbach: ^ [13:42] man, why didn't we think of that before [13:51] jcastro: always :) [13:52] Just got an android phone, first once since my G1 [13:52] it's nice. Comes with HTC crapware apps. I can't seem to uninstall them [13:52] guess that means it's time to root / hack the ROM [13:53] paultag: want a app recommendation? [13:53] How stupid is that. I don't want your stupid apps, so I'm going to have to cause the phone to be in an unpredictable state. Gah. [13:53] jussi: yes, please! [13:53] viber :) [13:53] jussi: viber? [13:54] jussi: oh cool free calls and such [13:54] jussi: thanks :) [13:54] paultag: SIP, but linked to your phone number, auto populates contact via those that registered with their phone number against your phone book [13:54] jussi: radical, thanks man :) [13:55] I need to get star trek noises for the phone, at some point [13:55] hehe [13:56] HTC Inspire, not a bad unit [13:56] I like phones that feel metal-ey [14:02] jcastro: I've added a few things to http://pad.ubuntu.com/ensemble-report [14:03] oh man [14:03] How did I miss this services thing [14:05] jcastro: I also see a few new formulas couchdb, memcached, rabbitmq .. those should be mentioned right ? [14:06] I can add them [14:06] ok I was having a hard time figuring out which formulas are new [14:06] couch is not really new .. just updated for port exposing [14:06] I did sort my recently changed in principia [14:06] cool go ahead and add those then [14:07] cool, then I just push it out on cloud.u.c? [14:07] yeah and tag with whatever tags + planet [14:07] so it goes to planet [14:08] ah, right [14:09] one thing tumblr does that I wish wordpress did ootb [14:10] is you can just publish things to a queue [14:10] and then it times them out so they post evenly [14:11] kim0: how did you determine the formulas to mention? Do you just manually go through them all and check them out or do you have a smart way? [14:13] jcastro: no smart way .. just sorting by last modified and the commit number helps to know if it's new or not :) [14:14] * jcastro nods [14:14] kim0: oh in the source tree? or in launchpad [14:14] just lp [14:15] there is no single source tree for formulas [14:15] juan made that list script [14:15] but I haven't tried it [14:16] I must be missing something, I can't find the bugs for memached or rabbit [14:18] jcastro: just check out https://code.launchpad.net/principia [14:18] there might be no bugs indeed [14:18] ah right [14:18] I was looking for the bugs for the list, I see where the formulas themselves are [14:18] I'll just reformat it different. [14:25] kim0: ok weird, can you try to do a fresh branch of principia? [14:25] I get some dumb bzr/lp error [14:26] jcastro: there is none [14:26] principia is now a "distro" whatever that means .. there is no single source tree that has all formulas [14:26] ugh [14:26] crap [14:27] jcastro: and what exactly would you do with sourcecode? [14:28] search through logs, look at which ones are new [14:28] read comments [14:28] carry on [14:29] I don't need to be a rocket scientist to read a bash script that says "apt-get -y install rabbitmq" :) [14:29] jcastro: well no, rocket scientists can't code. I'd not think you had to be [14:29] jcastro: a programmer, on the other hand? [14:29] perchance [14:30] see? I'm being a snarky wiseass. It's how I get through the day [14:30] kim0: the first few comments on that cloud post you linked to are hilarious [14:30] jcastro: heh yeah weirdo [14:32] wordpress needs an etherpad plugin [14:32] so people can work on the same article in WP instead of copying it over to WP [14:32] hummm [14:32] that's actually not a bad idea [14:32] if etherpad was not in java, that'd work brilliantly [14:33] but you'd be forced to run Tomcat and Apache, which I'm pretty sure even the NSA can't run [14:33] Also, it'd throw a cross-site scripting shit-fit unless you can plumb a fake request server in front of it [14:34] paultag: I recommend more fiber in your diet ;-) [14:34] doctormo: :) [14:35] paultag: Also, move etherpad to django, can't take more than 5 mins. [14:35] kim0: ok all I need now is a catchy title [14:35] doctormo: hehehe [14:35] someone made etherpad-lite on node.js [14:35] it looks pretty badass [14:35] Job done, get it packaged and lets grab a drink. [14:35] jcastro, yeah, I saw it - it's awesome [14:35] the creative bits again :) [14:41] got it! [14:51] man [14:51] there's this beautiful heron in my back yard [14:51] wow, my mind is messed up [14:52] (my brain said s/heron/heroin/) [15:05] jcastro: have you moved in? [15:06] yeah [15:08] sweet [15:08] * cjohnston is headed down for a party [15:08] (at jcastro's place) [15:13] paultag: me too [15:13] :/ [15:23] jcastro: on uds.u.c can you add as the last link on the main nav "Today" pointing to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/today but keep it hidden please? [15:29] alright my friends - I have a train to catch - I'll see you tomorrow [15:29] HUGS [15:29] o/ [15:30] cjohnston: oh right, good idea [15:30] cjohnston: hey, dumb question, what do y'all set your thermostat to around here? [15:30] lol.. 77 day, 74 night here.. [15:30] but we cant afford cooler [15:31] does summit.u.c/today work? [15:32] why doe we make it uds-specific? [15:33] we made it uds specific so that we can run simultaneous events [15:34] there doesn't seem to be a way to hide a menu option [15:34] i thought there was [15:34] just a link [15:34] easy enough to add when we get there [15:35] well.. we were waiting on you to move to add it to summit [15:35] no one ever asked me to add it to the main menu? [15:35] the patch for summit was ready the end of last week [15:35] you were getting ready to leave [15:36] so we left you alone [15:36] "waiting on you to move" [15:44] hi technoviking, do you know if is there an api or any way in which subforums from the Ubuntu forums can be shown from an external site? I.e. a wordpress site showing a view of the latest entries or something like that? [15:47] dpm: You could use a frame of some sort or use a script to screenscrape it === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [16:28] jcastro: nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/07/27/summit-improvements-and-bugfixes.html <3 [16:28] lack of http:// means it's not clickable in gnome-terminal [16:29] mhall119: http://nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/07/27/summit-improvements-and-bugfixes.html === cypher is now known as czajkowski [16:30] hmm [16:32] nigelb: nice list [16:34] mhall119: awk/perl goodness thanks to maco :) [16:34] +1 maco [16:36] nigelb: I like the font for the title. I thought it was animage at first [16:37] nhandler: Its from google webfonts [16:37] It had a lovely childness to it which I liked [16:37] I could so do with a drink [16:37] it represents you well [16:40] cjohnston: hah [16:46] <-- lunching === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [17:21] nhandler, thanks [17:31] popey: ping === daker is now known as daker_ [18:00] <3 that there's a section for Ubuntu Unity in http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/610 [18:16] nigelb: pro [18:16] d [18:17] paultag: huh? [18:17] nigelb: prod :) [18:17] paultag: ah, pon [18:17] g [18:17] :P [18:17] nigelb: I have an idea for an android app that will make us crazy happy with ourselvs [18:17] nigelb: if you have some time to hack with your ole' friend paul [18:18] paultag: yessir, but after I finish my dream android app ;) [18:18] lets move to a PM :D [18:18] nigelb: mkay :) [18:18] nigelb: kk [18:33] oh wow -> http://www.romancortes.com/blog/pure-css-coke-can/ [19:46] jcastro: ping [19:47] hi [19:48] jcastro: is jono on tody ? [19:48] I ask as I've a call in a few hours wiht him [19:50] I think he's at oscon still [19:50] "enjoy the silence" is what I recommend. :D [19:50] fair enough [19:51] back to testing mates application so [19:51] kinda nice to be back writing test cases and finding bugs on a new system [20:37] more linkedin spam :/ [20:53] it's really annoying on the ML [20:55] it's linkedin fault, it sends reminders periodically [20:57] also it defaults to "select all" i think [20:58] I don't see most of it, but it is possible for a list admin to block all linkedin spam from the list