| poolie | hi all | 11:05 |
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| poolie | udd meeting? | 11:05 |
| james_w | hi poolie | 11:31 |
| poolie | hi james_w | 11:31 |
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| barry | #startmeeting | 12:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 07:00. The chair is barry. | 12:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 12:00 |
| barry | hi folks. i think we may have had a time snafu, but is anybody around for the udd stakeholders meeting today? | 12:00 |
| james_w | hi | 12:01 |
| barry | hi james_w, i know poolie was around a bit ago | 12:02 |
| poolie | oh hi | 12:02 |
| poolie | i'm here | 12:02 |
| barry | hi. any word from jam, vila, jelmer, riddell? | 12:03 |
| barry | btw, while we're waiting did anybody see the article on git linked from /. today? once again bzr gets shorted. /me resolves to write his "why bzr rocks" article | 12:04 |
| barry | [TOPIC] agenda | 12:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: agenda | 12:05 |
| barry | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110727 | 12:05 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110727 | 12:05 |
| jelmer | hi | 12:05 |
| barry | hi jelmer | 12:05 |
| barry | i guess we should just jump in then... | 12:06 |
| barry | [TOPIC] action items | 12:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: action items | 12:06 |
| barry | * jelmer to study the feasibility of merge helper ([[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-builddeb/+bug/608675|bug 608675]]) as an intermediate step for quilt support | 12:06 |
| barry | 12:06 | |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 608675 in bzr-builddeb "merge-package should have support for manipulating quilt v3 patch stacks" [High,In progress] | 12:06 |
| jelmer | jam and i are goibg to pair on that when he gets back from holiday | 12:07 |
| barry | awesome | 12:07 |
| barry | * jelmer to look into [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/609187|bug 609187]] (warn when package import is out of date) | 12:07 |
| barry | 12:07 | |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 609187 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "users are not warned when branching ubuntu:foo (or lp:ubuntu/foo) and the package import of foo is out of date" [High,Fix released] | 12:07 |
| barry | i think the new bzr.dev feature addresses this, right? oh, and it's awesome | 12:08 |
| poolie | yes, john fixed it, and it is great | 12:08 |
| poolie | it also starts a new much faster lp api client | 12:08 |
| poolie | currently covering one api point i think :) | 12:08 |
| barry | :) yes, it's really great. any thoughts on back porting this feature to released bzr? | 12:09 |
| poolie | yes, that should be pretty easy | 12:09 |
| poolie | i think it was done based off an old branch | 12:09 |
| poolie | i had some concern about whether it would be seen as in the spirit of srus | 12:09 |
| poolie | it probably is ok though | 12:09 |
| poolie | certainly a welcome feature | 12:09 |
| poolie | shall we put it in everything back to lucid? | 12:09 |
| barry | i can understand the hesitation to sru a new feature, but this one really is a significant help to udd packagers, so i'd vote for "yes" | 12:10 |
| jelmer | me too | 12:10 |
| jelmer | though how many packagers are on lucid? | 12:11 |
| barry | jelmer: that's a good point, probably not many. but i'd say definitely sru to natty | 12:11 |
| poolie | i guess they may well be running it within a chroot or on a vm | 12:11 |
| barry | at least | 12:11 |
| poolie | or on a canonical dc machine ofr that matter | 12:11 |
| poolie | i'll add a note on the bug | 12:12 |
| barry | thanks. we should also update the new packaging guide, because it will really simplify things. is Riddell up for that? if not, i can do it (once it lands in natty and oneiric at least) | 12:13 |
| poolie | yes, he's been doing a lot of work on it | 12:13 |
| poolie | i don't know if he's here right now | 12:13 |
| poolie | we should mention it | 12:13 |
| barry | he's been doing *fantastic* work on the guide (i've reviewed a bunch of his branches). i'll take an action to coordinate with him | 12:14 |
| barry | [ACTION] barry to coordinate w/Riddell about updating the guide for bug 609187 feature | 12:14 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: barry to coordinate w/Riddell about updating the guide for bug 609187 feature | 12:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 609187 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "users are not warned when branching ubuntu:foo (or lp:ubuntu/foo) and the package import of foo is out of date" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609187 | 12:14 |
| barry | * jelmer to post summary of user visible changes with lp rollout | 12:14 |
| barry | 12:14 | |
| barry | * jelmer to post feature summary about inline diffs | 12:15 |
| barry | 12:15 | |
| barry | jelmer: do you remember these? | 12:15 |
| jelmer | I dont remember these | 12:15 |
| poolie | he's only intermittently connected | 12:15 |
| poolie | i think really we can put this on mrevell who does blog.l.n | 12:16 |
| poolie | but, perhaps we want to share it with ubuntu-devel or something? | 12:16 |
| jelmer | I was only a bit involved with them | 12:16 |
| barry | poolie: do you think we need to do anything special or will the normal lp feature rollout announcement machinery take care of it? ;) | 12:17 |
| poolie | i don't think we should do anything special | 12:17 |
| barry | cool. | 12:17 |
| poolie | i think the announcements will get at least onto planet ubuntu | 12:17 |
| jelmer | yeah, they do | 12:17 |
| barry | * riddell to update udd docs to use {{{bzr tag}}} instead of {{{bzr mark-uploaded}}} | 12:17 |
| barry | 12:17 | |
| barry | i think that's done | 12:18 |
| barry | [TOPIC] package importer progress | 12:18 |
| MootBot | New Topic: package importer progress | 12:18 |
| poolie | ok | 12:18 |
| poolie | so, some progress there | 12:18 |
| poolie | we deployed a new bzr which fixed some things but had some bad fallout | 12:19 |
| poolie | so we're now back on 2.3.4 | 12:19 |
| poolie | ithink it's at about 430 failures | 12:19 |
| barry | didn't vila fix a bunch of failures, or is that part of what got rolled back? | 12:20 |
| jelmer | multi tarball suppprt is almost done | 12:20 |
| poolie | we have fixed several classes of failure | 12:20 |
| poolie | that's great, thanks | 12:20 |
| barry | jelmer: nice. do you have any example packages that use multiple tarballs? | 12:21 |
| poolie | yes, search for 'multiple' on http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ | 12:22 |
| jelmer | some, but I can always use more | 12:22 |
| barry | perl :) | 12:22 |
| barry | so, is the bad fallout from the rollout fixed? do you expect to see a bzr update on lp again soon? | 12:23 |
| poolie | ah, ok | 12:23 |
| poolie | so we did two rollouts, to the udd importer and to launchpad, both of which had some bumps | 12:24 |
| poolie | i think we will do them again soon, probably within this fortnight | 12:24 |
| jelmer | I have a mp that is awaiting review that fixes lp | 12:24 |
| barry | cool | 12:25 |
| jelmer | we had a postmortem about the lp one (thanks poolie!) | 12:25 |
| barry | anything else on the importer? | 12:26 |
| barry | [TOPIC] bugs of interest | 12:27 |
| MootBot | New Topic: bugs of interest | 12:27 |
| barry | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html | 12:27 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html | 12:27 |
| jelmer | not from me | 12:27 |
| poolie | oh, one new thing, which is bit.ly/ubuntu-vcs-job | 12:27 |
| poolie | looking for someone great to join in working on this | 12:27 |
| poolie | please think of someone who might be interested, and point them to that, or circulate that url | 12:27 |
| barry | yep, i've been socially mediating it :) | 12:27 |
| poolie | thanks | 12:28 |
| * barry is always impressed at the progress evident in the kanban | 12:28 | |
| Riddell | hi, sorry I'm late | 12:29 |
| barry | it's great to see more released/needs release than queued/inprogress/needs review :) | 12:29 |
| barry | hi Riddell no worries. you might want to read the scollback | 12:29 |
| barry | poolie, jelmer anything in particular you want to point out about the kanban? | 12:30 |
| poolie | i got a few personal bugs sorted out which was nice | 12:30 |
| poolie | jelmer are the colo branch url things tolerably unblocked? | 12:30 |
| poolie | oh, lp is making some codehost deployment changes that should put it behind an haproxy | 12:31 |
| poolie | which should make it more stable, especially during upgrades | 12:31 |
| poolie | and also, safely let us test jam's faster-connection-startup patch | 12:31 |
| poolie | which when it works should take something like 1s off the start of a connection | 12:31 |
| barry | nice | 12:31 |
| poolie | i think we're about done | 12:32 |
| barry | [TOPIC] aob | 12:32 |
| MootBot | New Topic: aob | 12:32 |
| barry | poolie: just one from me. can you double check the gcal meeting time? i'm good for meeting in 2 weeks at 1200 utc, but if people will be disappearing for vacation, we can skip 2 weeks from now | 12:33 |
| Riddell | I need to set a better meeting reminder, this meeting happens just as I go for lunch :( | 12:33 |
| poolie | i think bzr people are tending to be away now, rather | 12:34 |
| jelmer | poolie: yes, colocated is unblocked | 12:34 |
| barry | poolie: why don't we just cancel the august meetings and come back in september (i.e. sept 7th)? or is that too much of a gap? | 12:35 |
| poolie | i think that's ok | 12:36 |
| poolie | ok | 12:36 |
| poolie | i cannot persuade gcal to change the time | 12:36 |
| poolie | :/ | 12:36 |
| barry | cool, resolved then. :) | 12:36 |
| barry | grrr. ;) | 12:36 |
| poolie | so that's the 7th of september then? | 12:36 |
| barry | poolie: yep. i'm also happy to do it at 1100utc come september | 12:37 |
| poolie | could you be so kind as to send minutes with this right at the top? | 12:37 |
| barry | poolie: will do | 12:37 |
| poolie | ok | 12:38 |
| poolie | it's late here; i might go | 12:38 |
| barry | unless there's anything else, i think we're done... | 12:38 |
| barry | #endmeeting | 12:38 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 07:38. | 12:38 |
| barry | thanks everyone! | 12:38 |
| jelmer | thanks barry | 12:40 |
| * stgraber waves | 15:00 | |
| * bdmurray waves | 15:00 | |
| * barry silently twitches | 15:00 | |
| stgraber | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is stgraber. | 15:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 15:00 |
| ev | hiya | 15:00 |
| mvo | hi | 15:01 |
| stgraber | so, unless I missed something, we're missing cjwatson, jhunt_ and slangasek today? | 15:01 |
| stgraber | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Lightning round | 15:02 |
| stgraber | $ echo $(shuf -e barry bdmurray ev doko mvo stgraber) | 15:02 |
| stgraber | doko barry mvo stgraber ev bdmurray | 15:02 |
| stgraber | though doko doesn't seem to be around either | 15:02 |
| ev | they're at debconf | 15:02 |
| stgraber | barry: you're up! | 15:02 |
| barry | in that case... | 15:02 |
| barry | more bug 788514 (libapache2-mod-python, python-gnupginterface, python-gtkspell, python-ibus, ibus-pinyin, ibus-table, python-liblouis, python-notify, papyon); developer experience cop; mm3 authentication meeting; ubuntu-packaging-guide reviews; various work on lucid lts ppa; udd meetings. done. | 15:02 |
| barry | 15:02 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 788514 in Ubuntu Oneiric "python packages on the CDs not using dh_python2" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788514 | 15:02 |
| mvo | did: | 15:03 |
| mvo | software-center: add toprated sort/keymaker/UI, add utils/show_top_rated_for_various_powers.py, work on gtk3/GI version of purchase/available-for-me, write more tests, code refactor, move AppEnquire into generic db space, make a gobject, add query-complete signal, pyflake fixes, review/merge top-rated branch from axp2, work on tests for the new nav history | 15:03 |
| mvo | update-manager: review/merge lp:~mterry/update-manager/813778 (thanks mterry!), review/merge lp:~rodrigo-moya/update-manager/use-new-power-interface, lp:~evfool/update-manager/shortinterval, lp:~evfool/update-manager/sortpackages, debug/fix resize issue (#812949), cleanup | 15:03 |
| mvo | apt: fix cdrom mount path problem for good and add DeEscapeString() function (with tests) to libapt, merge from debian-sid, test/upload new version to oneiric | 15:03 |
| mvo | software-properties: fix SetUpdateInterval() to use the dbus backend and upload new version, fix cdrom support | 15:03 |
| mvo | apt-xapian-index: merge from debian, apply patch from brian murray (#752195) | 15:03 |
| mvo | apturl: add aptdaemon backend and port to gtk3 | 15:03 |
| mvo | gdebi: fix resize issue | 15:03 |
| mvo | auto-upgrade-tester: debug rootfs find failure, cherry pick fix for grub, add (optional) jenkins slave, deploy jenkins slave in QA lab, add jenkins configuration matrix | 15:03 |
| mvo | EOF | 15:03 |
| stgraber | DONE: - tpm stuff: Reproduced a bug in opencryptoki on Natty. Bugfix got uploaded to Oneiric but can't be tested. Now trying to get TPM support working on Oneiric... - multipath: Spent a good part of Monday and yesterday playing with the SAN in Montreal to test a multipath-tools bugfix. (bug 690387) | 15:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 690387 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Maverick) "udev block naming breaks failover and sd kref release cycle" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690387 | 15:04 |
| stgraber | - IPv6: Helped cyphermox est some more network-manager packages until all the tests finally passed. B.logged about the state of things and asked for some more community testing: http://www.stgraber.org/2011/07/26/state-of-ipv6-in-ubuntu-oneiric/ - Daily builds: LTSP (all of the packages) and LXC now have daily builds working - LTSP: Worked a bit on implementing support for new nbd-server, needs some more work. (bug 806419) | 15:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 806419 in ltsp (Ubuntu Oneiric) "nbd-server doesn't work on Oneiric" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806419 | 15:04 |
| stgraber | - Arkose: Got a woring DBUS proxy yesterday, code is here: lp:~arkose-devel/avrkose/dbus-proxy | 15:04 |
| stgraber | TODO for this week: - Patch pilot this afternoon - Try to get tpm-tools to build on Oneiric (ideally with the latest upstream release) - Convince the SAN in Montreal to do multipath so I can actually test the SRU :) - Cleanup arkose's dbus-proxy code, implement blacklisting/whitelisting and integrate into the arkose code. - Fix LTSP so that it works for alpha-3 | 15:04 |
| stgraber | copy/paste really hates me... irssi says I'm pasting 13 lines and it ends up on just 4... | 15:05 |
| stgraber | readable version is at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/653167/ :) | 15:05 |
| stgraber | Oh, and bought myself a used SAN on ebay with plenty of storage for close to nothing ;) should arrive this week/next so I have more storage here and can use it for multipath testing. | 15:05 |
| stgraber | (done) | 15:05 |
| mvo | SAN> woah! | 15:06 |
| stgraber | hehe | 15:06 |
| stgraber | 2.3TB of 10k RPM storage on fiber channel, that's going to be fun! | 15:06 |
| barry | wow! | 15:06 |
| stgraber | that was for around $700-800 shipping included (from California) ;) | 15:07 |
| stgraber | just the disks are worth more than that :) | 15:07 |
| stgraber | ev: ? | 15:08 |
| ev | - Fixed unicode issues on the keyboard page for the PyGI branch. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Sorted my travel arrangements for Linux Plumbers. | 15:08 |
| ev | - More PyGI work: | 15:08 |
| ev | - Fixed the GtkBuilder UI for the user setup page, which was all sorts of | 15:08 |
| ev | broken. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Hostname collision detection. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Unit tests for the user setup page. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Wubi disk image integration work. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Looked into creating a Wubi unit test harness. Stopped for now, will review | 15:08 |
| ev | come feature freeze. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Bootloader work in the Wubi disk image stuff. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Looking into various places to save space in the compressed Wubi executable, | 15:08 |
| ev | since I'm adding a moderate amount of space to it with xz support and other | 15:08 |
| ev | bits. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Reviewed the designs for the installer slideshow. | 15:08 |
| ev | - Investigated jasper and oem-config, but ultimately went with a pure | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | ev: is there more? | 15:10 |
| ev | bdmurray: did it get cut off? | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | stopped at pure | 15:11 |
| ev | god I hate IRC | 15:11 |
| ev | lupin initramfs solution for firstboot. | 15:11 |
| ev | - Worked on the initramfs code for Wubi firstboot. All done now. | 15:11 |
| ev | - Reviewed the advanced partitioner specification with Matthew. | 15:11 |
| ev | - Fixes to live-build, lupin, and livecd-rootfs for Wubi. | 15:11 |
| ev | - Looked into live resizing the ext3 disk image should it run out of disk | 15:11 |
| stgraber | hehe, for once I'm not the only one having copy/paste issues ;) | 15:11 |
| ev | space. | 15:11 |
| ev | - Looking into loading the slideshow from MFC and Python using ctypes. | 15:11 |
| ev | (done) | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | consolidation of duplicate dpkg bug reports, apt-xapian-index bug triage, grub2 bug triage, wrote code to tag dist-upgrade bug reports and tagging them dist-upgrade, moving of linux apport-package bug reports to grub2 | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | base-files upload regarding motd and conffiles (bug 813282), apt-xapian-index fix for bug 752195 | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 813282 in base-files (Ubuntu) "base-files: /etc/update-motd.d/* should be conffiles" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813282 | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 752195 in apt-xapian-index (Ubuntu) "update-apt-xapian-index crashed with OSError in getmtime(): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/metamorphose2.desktop'" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/752195 | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | updated search-bugs to search all of ubuntu bug reports if the package is ubuntu, then searching and modified apport-package bug reports as duplicates, bug pattern writing for foreign language package is already installed and configured bug reports | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | wrote a launchpadlib script to check all fixed bugs about a package for similar bug reports, grab-attachments modification to accept --tag 'apport- package', udd database querying to find similar bugs about a package in ubuntu and debian | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | apport uploads fixing ubiquity source package hook, collecting upstart override files (bug 803977), collecting modified conffiles, checking VarLogDistupgradeApttermlog for bug patterns, fixing kernel-driver tagging of kernel oopses | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 803977 in apport (Ubuntu) "Add hook to attach Upstart override files" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803977 | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | phone call with jose plans regarding L3 support, email to ubuntu-devel and bugsquad regarding conffiles and upstart overrides | 15:13 |
| bdmurray | done | 15:13 |
| stgraber | cool. Any question? | 15:14 |
| stgraber | apparently not | 15:15 |
| stgraber | [TOPIC] Oneiric bugs | 15:15 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Oneiric bugs | 15:15 |
| stgraber | bdmurray: anything? | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | So just a couple have shown up this past week | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | bug 814331 | 15:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 814331 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[Oneiric] update-manager installs packages without authentication" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814331 | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | mvo: I haven't tested that one myself yet | 15:16 |
| mvo | bdmurray: this is probably releated to the upload that pitti did for policykit/aptdaemon, upgrades can now be done without authentication | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | mvo: that was intended? | 15:17 |
| stgraber | mvo: without authentication for anyone in the admin group, right? | 15:17 |
| mvo | yes | 15:17 |
| mvo | correct, admin group | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | ah, that's good to know | 15:18 |
| mvo | I guess we should have annonced it a bit more | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | the other bug isn't a oneiric one but bug 813468 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 813468 in update-manager (Ubuntu Lucid) "Panel indicators not updated correctly after upgrade from Hardy to Lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813468 | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | mvo: yes probably | 15:19 |
| mvo | hm, I'm not sure this bug is update-manager land, I mean, that is a user session | 15:20 |
| stgraber | bdmurray: hmm, why is that one assigned to update-manager? is it update-manager that updates the gconf config on desktop upgrade? | 15:20 |
| mvo | let me ask the desktop guys | 15:20 |
| bdmurray | stgraber: ah, yes I'd just found that this morning | 15:21 |
| stgraber | 15:21 < seb128> mvo, it's one of those old gnome-panels bugs which are there since warty that nobody will ever fix in the old codebase and which are fixed in GNOME3 | 15:22 |
| stgraber | in case everyone isn't in -desktop :) | 15:22 |
| stgraber | anything else for bugs? | 15:23 |
| bdmurray | nope that's it | 15:23 |
| stgraber | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:23 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB | 15:23 |
| bdmurray | stgraber: maybe you could merge https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu/oneiric/apport/kernel-driver-tagging-improvement/+merge/69109 when you are piloting? | 15:24 |
| stgraber | bdmurray: will do | 15:24 |
| bdmurray | thanks | 15:25 |
| stgraber | ok, I guess that's it then | 15:27 |
| stgraber | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:27. | 15:27 |
| stgraber | thanks everyone! | 15:27 |
| barry | thanks stgraber! | 15:27 |
| mvo | thanks | 15:27 |
| ev | thanks | 15:30 |
| === cypher is now known as czajkowski | ||
| patrickmw | hello all | 17:01 |
| patrickmw | I don't see jibel online, so I will volunteer run the QA meeting today | 17:02 |
| patrickmw | ready to start? | 17:03 |
| patrickmw | #startmeeting | 17:03 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 12:03. The chair is patrickmw. | 17:03 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 17:03 |
| patrickmw | Previous Actions (all) | 17:04 |
| patrickmw | Community Efforts/Testing | 17:04 |
| patrickmw | Automated/Systems Testing | 17:04 |
| patrickmw | Engineering Team Bug Status | 17:04 |
| patrickmw | Other Topics | 17:04 |
| patrickmw | Chair Selection | 17:04 |
| patrickmw | any previous actions? | 17:04 |
| patrickmw | it's quiet. am I early?? | 17:05 |
| afleck | im here, but i'm just observing | 17:06 |
| patrickmw | [TOPIC] Community Efforts/Testing | 17:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Community Efforts/Testing | 17:06 |
| patrickmw | pedro_? | 17:06 |
| pedro_ | that sort of jibel topic i think | 17:07 |
| patrickmw | just curious if you had a bug day announcement :) | 17:07 |
| patrickmw | sorry bout that | 17:07 |
| pedro_ | oh yes i have | 17:08 |
| pedro_ | we're going to have a bug day for compiz tomorrow | 17:08 |
| pedro_ | specially dedicated for polishing it a bit more for Oneiric | 17:08 |
| pedro_ | so if you're using Oneiric with Unity 3d, please join us tomorrow the whole day your timezone | 17:08 |
| pedro_ | as always we're going to hang out at #ubuntu-bugs | 17:09 |
| pedro_ | and as you can see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20110728 | 17:09 |
| pedro_ | people already started to work on it, but don't worry there's still a lot of bug reports waiting to be triaged so if you have time remember we'd love to have some extra help :-) | 17:09 |
| pedro_ | .. | 17:09 |
| patrickmw | thanks for the update | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | [Automated/Systems Testing] | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | boo | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | [TOPIC] Automated/Systems Testing | 17:10 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Automated/Systems Testing | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | lots today | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | = Upgrade Testing = | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | * All upgrade profiles for Oneiric are now running in a compact job | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | * Thanks to mvo for migrating his work and creating documentation! | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | = Kernel SRU = | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | * Branches being locally tested now and will be proposed for merge today. Changes are for testing Lucid (and prep for all previous releases) | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | = New Projects = | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | * ipv6 and upstart testing. working with foundations to gather requirements | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | * more requests to add packages for CI \o/ | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | * start planning for ltsp test automation \o/ \o/ | 17:10 |
| patrickmw | = QA Lab = | 17:11 |
| patrickmw | * wazn and albali hw are being upgraded today. testing will be suspended until they are back online. | 17:11 |
| patrickmw | * qa lab backup stategy in progress | 17:11 |
| patrickmw | Announcing new testing mailing list: ubuntu-testing-notifications@lists.ubuntu.com | 17:11 |
| patrickmw | The notifications are sent from Jenkins for failing or unstable jobs. Only a few jobs are sending notifications at this time, but this will increase as we add more. | 17:11 |
| patrickmw | Questions? | 17:11 |
| patrickmw | [TOPIC] Engineering Team Bug Status | 17:12 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Engineering Team Bug Status | 17:12 |
| patrickmw | pedro_? | 17:12 |
| patrickmw | then could you please appoint the next presenter :) | 17:12 |
| pedro_ | sure, so i've pushed the code for the desktop report to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-defect-analysts | 17:13 |
| pedro_ | so the other teams can use it if they think it works fine for them | 17:13 |
| pedro_ | not much to share besides that and the bug day | 17:15 |
| pedro_ | .. | 17:15 |
| pedro_ | Ursinha, bdmurray anything to share? | 17:15 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: oh yes | 17:15 |
| bdmurray | base-files upload regarding motd and conffiles (bug 813282), apt-xapian-index fix for bug 752195 | 17:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 813282 in base-files (Ubuntu) "base-files: /etc/update-motd.d/* should be conffiles" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813282 | 17:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 752195 in apt-xapian-index (Ubuntu) "update-apt-xapian-index crashed with OSError in getmtime(): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/metamorphose2.desktop'" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/752195 | 17:16 |
| bdmurray | updated search-bugs to search all of ubuntu bug reports if the package is ubuntu, then searching and modified apport-package bug reports as duplicates, bug pattern writing for foreign language package is already installed and configured bug reports | 17:16 |
| bdmurray | wrote a launchpadlib script to check all fixed bugs about a package for similar bug reports, grab-attachments modification to accept --tag 'apport- package', udd database querying to find similar bugs about a package in ubuntu and debian | 17:16 |
| bdmurray | apport uploads fixing ubiquity source package hook, collecting upstart override files (bug 803977), collecting modified conffiles, checking VarLogDistupgradeApttermlog for bug patterns, fixing kernel-driver tagging of kernel oopses | 17:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 803977 in apport (Ubuntu) "Add hook to attach Upstart override files" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803977 | 17:16 |
| bdmurray | and I sent email notifications about the overrides and conffiles changes to apport | 17:17 |
| bdmurray | those should be quite interesting | 17:17 |
| bdmurray | that's that | 17:17 |
| patrickmw | Ursinha? | 17:18 |
| patrickmw | [TOPIC] Other Topics | 17:20 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Other Topics | 17:20 |
| patrickmw | open floor | 17:20 |
| patrickmw | [TOPIC] Chair Auto-Selection - jibel :) | 17:21 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Chair Auto-Selection - jibel :) | 17:21 |
| pedro_ | lol | 17:21 |
| patrickmw | #endmeeting | 17:21 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 12:21. | 17:21 |
| patrickmw | have a good day all! | 17:21 |
| pedro_ | thank you for chairing patrickmw | 17:21 |
| patrickmw | my pleasure | 17:21 |
| micahg | oops | 17:34 |
| micahg | I meant to bring up something | 17:34 |
| micahg | patrickmw: ^^ | 17:35 |
| micahg | should I just discuss in #ubuntu-quality or #ubuntu-testing | 17:35 |
| patrickmw | micahg, quality | 17:36 |
| micahg | k, joining | 17:36 |
| Ursinha | sorry people, notification fail here | 17:47 |
| highvoltage | anyone around for the Edubuntu meeting? | 19:00 |
| alkisg | Hey there :) | 19:00 |
| highvoltage | hey alkisg | 19:01 |
| highvoltage | I'll go ahead and give a summary of some testing I did... | 19:02 |
| highvoltage | * As of todays daily build, gnome fallback mode has menus again | 19:02 |
| highvoltage | * sabayon crashes at startup | 19:02 |
| * stgraber waves | 19:02 | |
| highvoltage | * pessulus settings doesn't get applied (I guess because those settings are now in dconf instead of gconf) | 19:02 |
| highvoltage | * nanny crashes on startup | 19:03 |
| highvoltage | * italc seems to work ok but I'll do some further testing to be sure | 19:03 |
| alkisg | Is that the second version? Or still 1.x? | 19:03 |
| highvoltage | * edubuntu menueditor seems to work as well, but I'll ask mgariepy to test some more when he's back from holiday | 19:03 |
| highvoltage | italc? it's 1.0.13 | 19:04 |
| highvoltage | there doesn't seem to be a newer release yet | 19:05 |
| alkisg | Ah yeah the second is still too beta to be included in any distro | 19:05 |
| highvoltage | I was considering maintaining the breathe icon theme, but it's fallen behind so much already that I don't think it's really worth while | 19:06 |
| highvoltage | I think for oneiric it's probably best to stick with the default ubuntu icon theme | 19:06 |
| * alkisg was always fond of using the default ubuntu icons | 19:07 | |
| highvoltage | (either that, or if somoene has the time package another icon theme that's as solid) | 19:07 |
| highvoltage | I think we should include gnome-tweak-tool as well | 19:08 |
| highvoltage | it allows users to change GTK theme, icon theme and what controls should be included in the title bar | 19:08 |
| highvoltage | oh and also fonts and what actions should happen when laptop lids are closed | 19:09 |
| highvoltage | I find gnome upstream's decisions really weird and difficult to understand :) | 19:09 |
| alkisg | Hehe | 19:09 |
| alkisg | Is that only for the current user (controls etc)? Or also system-wide? | 19:10 |
| highvoltage | for sabayon, pessulus and nanny (which are all upstream gnome and doesn't work anymore) we'll either have to fix them or remove them from the seeds | 19:10 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: gnome-tweak-tool? it's for the user | 19:10 |
| alkisg | OK, would be handy for the students | 19:11 |
| highvoltage | I guess pessulus could do with a rewrite anyway. it gets kind of complicated deciding how something should be implemented when it should've been done upstream anyway. | 19:12 |
| highvoltage | well that's all I have to report/vent about. | 19:13 |
| highvoltage | anything stgraber and alkisg? | 19:14 |
| alkisg | Nothing from me, thanks for the update | 19:14 |
| highvoltage | my pleasure. | 19:14 |
| stgraber | nope | 19:18 |
| stgraber | feature freeze is less than a month away | 19:19 |
| stgraber | well, actually just two weeks away | 19:19 |
| highvoltage | wow that snuck up really fast. I guess we'll need a proper configuration plan for oneiric+1. fixing nanny+sabayon+pessulus (as in, rewriting big parts of it or entirely) for oneiric sounds like a tall order | 19:21 |
| stgraber | yeah, as I said in person earlier, I'd really like us to focus on getting our Edubuntu WIs done before starting messing with upstream stuff :) | 19:22 |
| highvoltage | *nod* | 19:22 |
| alkisg | Wls? | 19:22 |
| stgraber | it's not like we really have spare resources or too much free time :) | 19:22 |
| stgraber | alkisg: work items | 19:22 |
| highvoltage | Work Items | 19:22 |
| alkisg | Ah | 19:22 |
| alkisg | Indeed, and sabayon is too much job for maintaining... gnome changes too much | 19:22 |
| stgraber | alkisg: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-edubuntu.html | 19:23 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: do you know whether the ubuntu desktop team is planning to stay with the system settings tool or do the ubuntu control center for future releases? | 19:23 |
| highvoltage | (I guess no one can really say for sure yet) | 19:23 |
| stgraber | no idea | 19:24 |
| alkisg | Cool work items list - from next year I hope i can do a good part of the then-WIs | 19:24 |
| highvoltage | what we should do is make a list of all the features we need, how it worked before, how we think it should ideally work and then ask the desktop team for some feedback. | 19:25 |
| highvoltage | at least unity doesn't need much lockdown :) | 19:26 |
| stgraber | hehe | 19:26 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: LTSP is currently broken too because it tries to load ramzswap which seems broken atm | 19:37 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: nah, that's not the problem. that thing won't break your boot. nbd-server rejecting the connect is | 19:38 |
| stgraber | *connection | 19:38 |
| stgraber | bug 806419 | 19:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 806419 in ltsp (Ubuntu Oneiric) "nbd-server doesn't work on Oneiric" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806419 | 19:39 |
| highvoltage | does that have something to do with the new nbd settings that aren't per port anymore? | 19:39 |
| stgraber | yep | 19:39 |
| stgraber | that's why I'm fixing it ;) | 19:39 |
| highvoltage | great. so that's at least 2 edubuntu related bugs you'll be fixing :) | 19:39 |
| stgraber | I wouldn't update ltsp-update-image/ltsp-update-kernels and half our init scripts just for fun :) | 19:39 |
| stgraber | the swap thingy I'm not sure I'll fix just now. My current goal is to get ltsp booting again | 19:40 |
| stgraber | nbdswap and ramzswap can always be fixed later (as in, post-FF or whenever-somebody-who-cares-as-time) | 19:40 |
| stgraber | *has | 19:41 |
| highvoltage | I don't like ramzswap anyway | 19:41 |
| stgraber | compcache was quite ugly, ramzswap is "supposed" to be better. | 19:42 |
| highvoltage | does it grow only as needed? | 19:42 |
| stgraber | but yeah, getting rid of the boot time errors would be nice, though once ltsp boots again we should get a splash hidding these | 19:42 |
| stgraber | no clue, I just know that this one is in the upstream kernel and that it's supposed to be better | 19:42 |
| alkisg | NBD swap is significant for ltsp, ramswap... not so much | 19:43 |
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