| ojwb | one of my partitions seems to have stopped mounting on boot - if I hit 'S' to skip it at the prompt, it mounts fine once I get to the desktop | 01:36 |
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| ojwb | can't find anything useful in the logs beyond: boot.log:Skipping /data at user request | 01:37 |
| ojwb | any ideas? | 01:37 |
| ojwb | it's an LVM volume, but the others are happy | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | no message on the screen before it asks to skip? | 01:38 |
| ojwb | i forget exactly what it says, but it wasn't very informative | 01:38 |
| ojwb | perhaps I should reboot and note it down | 01:38 |
| ajmitch | usually it'd be some timeout message or similar | 01:38 |
| ajmitch | it could help | 01:38 |
| * ojwb tries | 01:38 | |
| ojwb | i thought there was a mount option to background a mount attempt, but I can't see that in the man page | 01:39 |
| ojwb | that would at least work around the issue | 01:39 |
| chrismsnz | are you mounting any other logical volumes from that partitions volume group? | 01:40 |
| ajmitch | just the noauto mount option, which doesn't really help | 01:40 |
| ojwb | hmm | 01:41 |
| ojwb | it worked that time, of course | 01:41 |
| ajmitch | of course | 01:41 |
| chrismsnz | gw everybody | 01:41 |
| ajmitch | perhaps it's only when it's a cold boot? | 01:41 |
| ojwb | though it briefly said something like "The disk drive for /data is not ready or [...]" | 01:41 |
| ojwb | I've seen it on warm too | 01:41 |
| ojwb | chrismsnz: probably, let me look | 01:41 |
| ojwb | chrismsnz: yeah, there are 4 volumes to mount, all in the same volume group | 01:44 |
| chrismsnz | and only /data fails? | 01:44 |
| ojwb | always seem to be that one though, which is the 3rd of the 4 in /etc/fstab | 01:44 |
| ojwb | i've not noticed the others | 01:44 |
| chrismsnz | I wonder if anything would cause the system to attempt to mount it before root (/) | 01:45 |
| ojwb | so I think it's only ever failed for /data, but I may have missed an instance when it wasn't | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | odd, since all volumes in a group should be activated at the same time | 01:45 |
| chrismsnz | doesn't sound sane, though | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | chrismsnz: I think /etc/fstab is processed in order | 01:45 |
| ojwb | it's after / | 01:45 |
| ojwb | perhaps I should put it last! | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | which is why I can have /usr/local & /usr/local/extra in /etc/fstab on my home system | 01:46 |
| * ajmitch happily ignores the FHS at times | 01:46 | |
| chrismsnz | ojwb: running lucid? | 01:46 |
| ojwb | natty | 01:47 |
| chrismsnz | there's a few bugs mentioning this problem - none of them fix but all are filed against lucid | 01:48 |
| ojwb | hmm | 01:48 |
| ojwb | i should probably copy the date off and reinstall | 01:48 |
| ojwb | there's not really a good reason to have all those partitions now | 01:49 |
| chrismsnz | this is the beauty of lvm though :) | 01:49 |
| chrismsnz | you can just resize your partitions on the fly! | 01:49 |
| ojwb | yeah, I'm not sure I really want LVM in the picture any more | 01:49 |
| ojwb | sorry, misread - this is the *first* lvm partition in fstab | 01:51 |
| ojwb | which makes a little more sense perhaps | 01:51 |
| ojwb | then once I've got around to hitting S, whatever is causing the issue is probably sorted | 01:51 |
| chrismsnz | is / in the fstab after /data? | 01:52 |
| ojwb | no | 01:52 |
| ojwb | it's /proc / swap cdrom then the lvs | 01:53 |
| ojwb | i've moved the /data lv down one - I'll see if that changes anything | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | you'll probably have the first LV fail, but it'll be a different one | 01:55 |
| ibeardslee | wow unity really does suck with dual screens | 01:55 |
| ibeardslee | laptop screens | 01:55 |
| chrismsnz | ibeardslee: yeah :\ | 01:55 |
| ibeardslee | probably the netbook doesn't have good enough graphics | 01:55 |
| chrismsnz | the 5102? | 01:57 |
| ibeardslee | yeap | 01:57 |
| chrismsnz | you dual screening with that beast? | 01:58 |
| ibeardslee | just getting ready for using it for a presentation tomorrow | 01:58 |
| ibeardslee | checking that the thing will actually do it properly | 01:59 |
| chrismsnz | I don't know what I'm going to run on my X220 | 02:00 |
| chrismsnz | Unity is terrible with multiple screens.... | 02:00 |
| chrismsnz | It's running 11.04 at the moment but I want to dock it with an external screen. Maybe I'll have to go xfce or KDE... or Gnome 3 even | 02:00 |
| * ajmitch still hasn't really tried kde 4.x yet | 02:01 | |
| ajmitch | though I'm still mostly using lucid & gnome 2.x rather than unity | 02:01 |
| ibeardslee | Unity seems to work fine on my dual screen workstation .. at least fine where 'fine' actually has a clear display | 02:01 |
| chrismsnz | my extra monitor is to my left | 02:02 |
| ibeardslee | oh joy | 02:02 |
| chrismsnz | which introduces fail wrt unity's taskbar | 02:02 |
| chilts | I finally subscribed to the mailing list | 02:14 |
| chilts | ajmitch: ubuntu-nz list run by ajmitch at ubuntu.com, brenda at catalyst.net.nz | 02:14 |
| chilts | brenda is no longer there (but I guess you knew that already) :) | 02:14 |
| chilts | (that's on the screen right after you do a subscribe request) | 02:15 |
| ajmitch | chilts: can't say that I knew that :) | 02:16 |
| chilts | :) | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | btw, the mailing list is usually far quieter than IRC | 02:16 |
| chilts | I know, but I figured I needed to be on it (for no other reason than being on it) :) | 02:16 |
| chilts | it completes me! | 02:16 |
| chilts | :) | 02:17 |
| ajmitch | oh dear | 02:17 |
| chilts | hehe | 02:17 |
| chilts | I know | 02:17 |
| ajmitch | it's also been so long that I don't recall the list password, I should probably try & hunt it down to clear out spam | 02:18 |
| ajmitch | it's about the only thing it's needed for | 02:18 |
| chilts | doesn't it only accept mail from subscribers? | 02:19 |
| ojwb | that just means you get a big pile of held spam | 02:19 |
| ajmitch | yeah, which is why I can mostly forget about spam :) | 02:19 |
| chilts | wait, by only accepting mail from subsribers you get a big pile of held spam? that what you meant? | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | yep | 02:20 |
| chilts | doesn't make sense to me, wouldn't it just get rejected right there and then? | 02:20 |
| ojwb | mailman's antispam support is woeful | 02:20 |
| chilts | :( | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | it's a pity I don't have the password in ~/.listadmin.ini | 02:20 |
| chilts | Sympa seems to do the right thing | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | it holds messages from non-subscribers for a short time | 02:20 |
| ojwb | there are several different approaches to handling incoming posts, but none actually seems to do what you'd obviously want | 02:20 |
| chilts | yeah, I'd say it should just reject emails from non-subscribers immediately | 02:21 |
| chilts | who knows | 02:21 |
| ojwb | IIRC you can discard or bounce or hold based on content, headers, etc, but not on "comes from a subscriber" | 02:22 |
| ojwb | i've seen the odd spammer subscribe to a list, but that's pretty rare | 02:23 |
| chilts | strange, that seems like the first thing I'd implement | 02:23 |
| chilts | I am _SO_ going to get a Zareason laptop next time I buy one | 02:23 |
| chilts | who's that other company that does specifically Linux ones? | 02:24 |
| chilts | though I guess there are more than 2 these days :) | 02:24 |
| ajmitch | system76? | 02:28 |
| chilts | ah, that's the one | 02:30 |
| * chilts looks again | 02:30 | |
| ajmitch | oh look at that, found the ubuntu-nz list password :) | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | no spam in the queue, so there's no real need for it | 02:33 |
| chilts | heh, sorry to send you on a wild goose chase | 02:34 |
| ajmitch | not to worry, I was meaning to find it awhile ago | 02:34 |
| ajmitch | I just had to ssh into my home system & load up the right mailbox, it wasn't hard to find | 02:34 |
| ajmitch | ibeardslee: you're still nominally chief, want any changes made? :) | 02:36 |
| ibeardslee | I thought it was blocked to non-subscribers already | 02:57 |
| ibeardslee | and which list is it? | 02:57 |
| ibeardslee | there seems to have been a couple floating around for a while | 02:58 |
| ajmitch | ibeardslee: ubuntu-nz@lists.ubuntu.com | 02:58 |
| ajmitch | & it is blocked to non-subscribers, so there's not really much to care about | 02:59 |
| chilts | that's what I thought would make sense ... so it _does_ already do that? | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | chilts: right, blocks but holds blocked mail for a short time | 03:02 |
| chilts | oh, I see | 03:02 |
| chilts | still, I guess that's better than having to manually do something | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 03:02 |
| ibeardslee | I occasionally get emails for people joining the launchpad team | 03:34 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 20:02 |
| ajmitch | morning | 20:08 |
| timClicks | morning | 20:27 |
| chrismsnz | morning | 20:30 |
| Atamira | morning | 20:38 |
| chilts | morning | 21:37 |
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