[00:00] <Xodiac13> gogeta: i am going to do that later cause i want to see if this works and i will know how to do it
[00:00] <Gent> I have a 14" panel from an old IBM
[00:00] <gogeta> Xodiac13: but if back[orts works then at least you knoe what to do
[00:00] <Xodiac13> gogeta: true i just did what you told me to install it and it said no file found
[00:00] <Gent> I'll ship it to you for $30 since you'll need to pad it yourself and change the connector
[00:00] <gogeta> Xodiac13: seems the newer driver did brake some stuff
[00:00] <esing> hi
[00:00] <gogeta> Xodiac13: do you have all your repos enabled
[00:00] <Gent> you can just use cardboard along the edges to keep it in place
[00:00] <esing> which remote tool should i use for ubuntu
[00:01] <smtx> hi
[00:01] <Gent> esing: remote tool? remote what?
[00:01] <esing> (server whch i want to remote access on my windows9
[00:01] <idlemind324> esing: what do you mean? and rdp equivalent
[00:01] <smtx> what was the name of that installer from the ubuntu livecd?
[00:01] <smtx> u-something?
[00:01] <Xodiac13> gogeta: how do i enable them if there not
[00:01] <faint545> anyone very very familiar w/ Java?
[00:01] <idlemind324> esing, vnc or ssh or both
[00:01] <Gent> VNC with SSH tunelling
[00:01] <gogeta> Xodiac13: you can do it in synaptic
[00:01] <esing> i have already SSH
[00:01] <esing> (on the websever)
[00:01] <Gent> what more do you need?
[00:01] <idlemind324> esing yes vnc tunnelled through ssh is secure if you need a gui
[00:01] <esing> *(control panel)
[00:01] <Xodiac13> gogeta: okay
[00:01] <esing> ah okay
[00:01] <esing> thanks !!!
[00:01] <smtx> vnc sucks
[00:02] <smtx> go for nx no machine
[00:02] <Gent> indeed
[00:02] <esing> apt-get install vnc ?
[00:02] <ctharvey> rv identify win311
[00:02] <gogeta> hehe nx is win
[00:02] <ctharvey> goddamn you xchat
[00:02] <smtx> no nx is linux
[00:02] <astraljava> faint545: Is it a support question regarding ubuntu? If not, I'd suggest #java.
[00:02] <gogeta> but only good for linux
[00:02] <RocketLauncher> When someone sends me a message on Pidgin my panel doesn't highlight why is that it did it before now it doesnt but it did before yet it doesnt
[00:02] <smtx> the nx client is windows
[00:02] <newb> i have justed installed virtual box on ubuntu, are there any other os other than ubuntu you recomend
[00:02] <szal> Xodiac13: 'lsb_release -a' please (!pastebin)
[00:02] <gogeta> relly teamviews is dead easy vnc
[00:02] <gogeta> teamviewer
[00:02] <smtx> and nx uses ssh tunneling per default
[00:02] <smtx> teamviewer is also nice but is not as secure since its hosted somewhere you dont have control
[00:03] <smtx> and its sometimes buggy
[00:03] <smtx> and not as fast as nx
[00:03] <vlt> newb: What do you want to do?
[00:03] <Xodiac13> szal: k
[00:04] <alexleon> hello does evolution work for u?? cuz it doesnt for me :(
[00:04] <gogeta> yea but the hosted let you work threw even the worst firewalls so its a dubble edged
[00:04] <astraljava> I'll second smtx, freenx is awesome.
[00:04] <vlt> alexleon: Nope.
[00:04] <newb> vlt, nothing in particular just a nose around
[00:04] <astraljava> !details | alexleon
[00:04] <alexleon> ugh is there any better client?
[00:04] <Xodiac13> szal: it says no lsb modules are available and its 11.04
[00:05] <Gent> anyone got a google music invite yet?
[00:05] <vlt> newb: distrowatch.org
[00:05] <szal> Xodiac13: in that case it's logical that the above mentioned package is not available, since Natty is not Lucid :P
[00:05] <esing> what is "google music invite" ?
[00:05] <newb> tks
[00:05] <alexleon> umm when i set up evolution at last it asks me for my password but its like if my password was wront nd it is not
[00:05] <gogeta> does he mean soundcloud
[00:05] <Xodiac13> szal: yeah i found it in synaptics and its similair
[00:06] <smtx> astraljava, <-- a man with taste
[00:06] <rww> Gent: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)
[00:06] <Xodiac13> gogeta: im going to take a break man its takeing a while for this to download
[00:06] <Gent> rww... I was wondering how it worked in ubuntu since they enabled ogg/linux support
[00:07] <gogeta> Xodiac13: found the package did you
[00:07] <Gent> seems fairly ontopic
[00:07] <Xodiac13> gogeta: yeah in synaptics
[00:07] <esing> ehm
[00:07] <gogeta> nice
[00:07] <rww> Gent: That would fall under our "ask your actual question" concept, then :P
[00:07] <leprachaun> what is gnome
[00:08] <gogeta> Xodiac13: seems it just a matter of installing your windows drivers and the backports when you reinstall if it works heh
[00:08] <vlt> !gnome | leprachaun
[00:08] <Gent> Ok: Has anyone used google music in Ubuntu yet?  How does it run?  Is it flash based, HTML5? What's the deal?
[00:08] <Xodiac13> gogeta: heck yeah
[00:08] <rww> wet-chan: If you ever feel like actually fixing your connection instead of just /parting #ubuntu-read-topic and nick changing, feel free to ask #ubuntu-ops for help :\
[00:08] <leprachaun> thanks
[00:08] <Xodiac13> gogeta: brb man ill stay in the chat room
[00:08] <computers> yes hello
[00:09] <computers> I try ubuntu livecd and get kernal panic
[00:09] <computers> what wrong
[00:09] <computers> how do I linux
[00:09] <Gent> computers: your computer is likely broken
[00:09] <patrick__> _
[00:09] <leejohn> Computer:  bad memory probably
[00:10] <gogeta> or just a bad cd jeez
[00:10] <computers> computer work perfect with windows
[00:10] <gogeta> you guys are so your stuff blown up today
[00:10] <Gent> could be a bad CD.. usually that doesn't cause a panic though
[00:10] <vlt> computers: Try running memtest from live CD (for a few hours).
[00:10] <computers> no I need linux now
[00:10] <Gent> computers: windows may not be hitting the memory block... booting a live CD fills memory fast
[00:10] <computers> must get data from ext partition
[00:11] <computers> I try two computer boot neither
[00:11] <Gent> memtest is on the CD last I checked
[00:11] <Gent> I would run that
[00:11] <Gent> then re-burn the CD
[00:11] <Gent> chances are it's the CD if two computers are doing it
[00:11] <Gent> I've just never seen a bad CD cause a kernel panic...
[00:11] <gogeta> computers: well burn a new cd see if that works
[00:11] <Gent> all other kinds of errors, but not panics
[00:11] <gogeta> Gent: i have
[00:11] <vlt> computers: Or check the CD itself (also from boot menu). Or use another live CD like grml.org
[00:11] <computers> I try slax first
[00:11] <computers> then new disk
[00:12] <gogeta> Gent: i had a kernel panic just couse it didnt like my bios once
[00:12] <Gent> computers: I'm fairly certain there's an ext2 driver for windows
[00:12] <idlemind324> ubuntu 10.04 lts, i need to create virtual interfaces on my eth0 that have different mac addresses (so they fetch unique addresses via dhcp) is macvlan the choice i am after. i have to do this to get my at&t u-verse router to assign my router box all of my static ip's
[00:12] <computers> I try many ext2 driver
[00:12] <computers> none working
[00:12] <computers> windows 7 64 bit
[00:12] <computers> and whatever ext synology use
[00:12] <szal> !enter | computers
[00:13] <computers> not helpful szal
[00:13] <Gent> hahah... szal that's a lame message. The enter key is synonymous with '.' on IRC and has been for some time.
[00:13] <szal> computers: no, but easier to read if you honour the advice
[00:14] <gogeta> Gent: its just where the bad spot in the iso is if its very early on aka when kernel is loading it will panic
[00:14] <rww> Gent: ableist comments aside, pressing the return key every four words or so clutters up the channel.
[00:14] <computers> I think bad cd is maybe
[00:14] <amalgameate> hi, i have a file premissions problem i can't figure out.  i need to allow a ftp user named: ftp_user access to read and upload files to a folder.  but, i ALSO need to allow wordpress write access.  however, afaik only one user can own the folder
[00:14] <computers> there is spot on disk i wipe on shirt
[00:14] <Gent> gogeta: I can understand HOW it happens... I'm just saying I've never seen it happen, so it seems like an unlikely situation, and I've booted those CDs thousands of times on probably over 100 different systems.
[00:14] <amalgameate> so, when i chown ftp_user:ftp_user, ftp users have access but wordpress can't upload to that folder anymore.  when i chow www-dat:www-data, the vice vera happens
[00:14] <astraljava> Gent: Have you witnessed the amount of traffic that goes through this channel? Very much not lame at all.
[00:14] <amalgameate> does anyone know what i can do to solve this probleM?
[00:15] <Gent> astraljava: this channel is slow compared to others (at least right now)
[00:15] <gogeta> Gent: i have seen it maybe im just lucky heh. like i said even one time it didnt like something with my apm and would go panic i just had to pass a option in that case
[00:15] <idlemind324> amalgameate add your ftp user to the www-data group ... otherwise look at using acl's
[00:15] <rww> Gent: and if people talked like this
[00:15] <rww> then it would get cluttered
[00:15] <rww> very quickly
[00:15] <rww> and that would be bad
[00:15] <Gent> amalgameate: add your ftp_users to www_data ?
[00:16] <astraljava> Gent: Right now means jacks**t to the people who are on it constantly. But this is OT, so I'll drop it now.
[00:16] <lordflama> I know this is more a samba question but:  how can I prevent samba from allowing Windows / Mac users from changing permissions or taking ownership of the files and folders on an Ubuntu (10.04) share?
[00:16] <amalgameate> sorry, i only started ubuntu 2 weeks ago.  i see.  so, once i add ftp_user to www_data group, then i shold chown www-data:www-data, which will allow the ftp user to access the directories alsO/
[00:16] <donzr> eh
[00:16] <donzr> hola amigos
[00:17] <donzr> hola???
[00:17] <soreau> ! es | DingGGu
[00:17] <leprachaun> hola
[00:17] <semitones_> I need to diagnose this grub error: "error: no such device: ######(which is the uuid of my root partition). / error: no such disk. / error: no suitable mode found." any ideas? (it continues to boot, and persists if I reinstall grub)
[00:17] <soreau> ! es | donzr
[00:17] <computers> wow slax is boot much better than ubuntu livecd
[00:17] <computers> so maybe it ubuntu livecd i burned
[00:18] <gogeta> computers: yea we said that
[00:18] <computers> when i give help i like to know if i right
[00:18] <computers> is curteous
[00:18]  * rww yawns at l0de
[00:18] <donzr> hey you could watch the instalation manual for gentoo
[00:18] <donzr> it helps a lot with grub issues
[00:18] <gogeta> donzr: lol
[00:19] <szal> donzr: I somewhat doubt though that it helps w/ Grub2 issues
[00:19] <gogeta> rww: whats wrong no question challging enough for you
[00:20] <donzr> oh yur'e right because gentoo works with grub 1
[00:21] <hal000> well i checked my older linux
[00:21] <esing2> and i found out that i used x11vnc
[00:21] <szal> semitones_: are you sure the UUID is correct?
[00:21] <esing2> as a server
[00:22] <vlt> esing2: x11vnc is for connecting to a real X server.
[00:23] <vlt> esing2: If you don't need this use something else (vnc4server or similar)
[00:23] <esing2> vlt what is a real X server ?
[00:24] <esing2> vlt I want to access my VPS through gui
[00:24] <esing2> (remotly)
[00:24] <vlt> esing2: An X server runs on the machine where a display, keyboard and mouse is attached to.
[00:24] <esing2> good to know
[00:25] <esing2> thanks!
[00:25] <vlt> esing2: When you want to connect to such a (client) machine use x11vnc
[00:25] <esing2> no i want to connect to a sever
[00:25] <esing2> *vps server
[00:25] <vlt> esing2: For "emulating" an X server your programs send data to use vncserver
[00:26] <vlt> esing2: and connect to it via vnc
[00:26] <esing2> i'll connect from Windows
[00:26] <esing2> can I still use "vnc4server" for that?
[00:27] <vlt> esing2: Yes. You need to run something like vnc4server on  the server. Then you can connect from windows -- please use ssh tunnel -- and run programs on the server that depend on a running X server.
[00:27] <tyler_d> how might I find the keyboard shortcut to show the wall... the same as the button on the left, used to be super+e?
[00:28] <esing2> vlt ok ill try it out. thanks+
[00:32] <amalgameate> hi, so i'm trying to add my ftp user to www-data so that it can access my public_html folder.  however, even after i adduser ftp_user www-data, it still isn't able to upload via ftp.  does anyone know what i might need to do to fix this?
[00:33] <idlemind324> amalgameate what is the output of ls -l in the area you are trying to upload files?
[00:34] <amalgameate> idlemind324: it's www-data:www-data owns all files
[00:34] <idlemind324> amalgameate in particular the 3 credentials in the middle rwx rwx rwx ... user group everyone
[00:34] <amalgameate> ah ok
[00:34] <amalgameate> -rw-r--r--
[00:34] <amalgameate> the files i'm triyng to edit are  all -rw-r--r--
[00:34] <th0r> amalgameate: there are no write privileges for the group
[00:34] <idlemind324> amalgameate chmod 664 <filename>
[00:35] <ionite> Please help me!!
[00:35] <amalgameate> oo i see, is it safe to chmod -R 664 *?
[00:35] <idlemind324> you may have to: sudo chmod 644 filename
[00:35] <ionite> I just successfully installed Natty but when the setup prompted system reboot, it just gave a blank screen after verifying DMI pool data.
[00:36] <idlemind324> amalgameate be careful with recursive commands and wildcards like *
[00:36] <ionite> i've tired rebooting it several times however it just can't boot up my successfully installed Natty
[00:36] <idlemind324> amalgameate something like sudo chmod 644 /var/www/ may be better
[00:36] <idlemind324> * chmod -R 644 /var/www/
[00:37] <amalgameate> idlemind324: i see, but the folders actually have 755 permissions on them.  is there a way to set all files that are currently at 644 to 664?
[00:39] <idlemind324> amalgameate: ls -laR <directory> | grep 'rw-r--r--'
[00:39] <idlemind324> amalgameate that will list all files it finds with 644
[00:39] <astraljava> idlemind324: 644 doesn't give write permission for group, you need 664 for thatl
[00:40] <astraljava> that.*
[00:40] <idlemind324> astraljava i know
[00:40] <idlemind324> astraljava he asked how to view files currently set @ 644
[00:40] <amalgameate> right right, so that will get a list of all 644s.  can i then pipe that into chmod somehow?
[00:40] <idlemind324> amalgameate that i don't know =)
[00:41] <astraljava> idlemind324: Oh? I thought he wanted his user to belong to the group www-data, which would enable the uploading to said directory. My bad, then.
[00:41] <Beavis> Hi! how can I upgrade my ubuntu 10.04 to the last version 10.04.3
[00:41] <amalgameate> idlemind324: gotcha, i will figure that part out.  thanks a bunch ofr your help
[00:41] <Gent> I fail to understand why the default umask is not 007 these days
[00:41] <Beavis> ?
[00:41] <ionite> I just successfully installed Natty but when the setup prompted system reboot, it just gave a blank screen after verifying DMI pool data.
[00:41] <Gent> and home directories g+s
[00:42] <maum> any permanent solution for sudo alsa force-reload?
[00:44] <Gent> setuid alsa so you don't have to type sudo every time?
[00:45] <ionite> I just successfully installed Natty but when the setup prompted system reboot, it just gave a blank screen after verifying DMI pool data.  What happened?  Can anyone help?
[00:45] <Pyraine> Hey I just completely removed gwibber and reinstalled it because  I was having some trouble, but now I've lost the little speech bubble icon on my top bar, does anybody know how to get it back?
[00:45] <ministerdude> gparted live. Where do I get it and how do I instal it to my thumbdrive to convery ubuntu to partition 2 so I can open partition 1 for a dual boot
[00:46] <Gent> ministerdude: no idea on thumbdrive, but you should be able to figure out where to get it with google
[00:46] <Beavis> uhòiuhou
[00:47] <ionite> I just successfully installed Natty but when the setup prompted system reboot, it just gave a blank screen after verifying DMI pool data.  What happened?  Can anyone help?
[00:47] <idlemind324> amalgameate i found a slightly more friendly way for you to do what you're after
[00:48] <ministerdude> Can't I do it from ubuntu live?
[00:48] <ministerdude> I mean i used ubuntu live to partition the damn drive. Can I use it to convert it over
[00:48] <leejohn> hey guys any advice on triple monitor setup
[00:49] <leejohn> is it working well with ubuntu?
[00:49] <szal> ministerdude: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[00:49] <edbian> ministerdude: What are you trying to do?  (gparted is installed on the liveCD / liveUSB by default)
[00:49] <ministerdude> Which I have the live of 10.04
[00:49] <ldlework> I'm trying to use xclip but when I run it I get, Error: Can't open display: (null)    Help, would be appreciated!
[00:49] <ministerdude> That's how I partitioned it. But how do I go back and convert it
[00:50] <edbian> ministerdude: 'convert' ?  And also, what is 'it' ?
[00:50] <ministerdude> I need to convert my ubuntu partition 1 over to like 2 or 3 so I can dual boot instal windows on 1
[00:51] <edbian> ministerdude: Ok, so that means you need to shrink one and create 2 / 3 in the free space preceeding 1.  Make 2 / 3 ntfs partitions.
[00:51] <ministerdude> I did that.
[00:51] <ministerdude> hang on I'll open it and see what it says for ya
[00:51] <edbian> ministerdude: ok.  open what? gparted?
[00:51] <ionite> I just successfully installed Natty but when the setup prompted system reboot, it just gave a blank screen after verifying DMI pool data.  What happened?  Can anyone help?
[00:52] <ministerdude> SDA1 = ext3, SDA2 = Extended SDA3 = fat32
[00:52] <edbian> ionite: This is unfortunately a common problem.
[00:52] <edbian> ministerdude: you should make sd3 ntfs instead of fat32
[00:53] <ministerdude> K how do I go do that... Live again?
[00:53] <edbian> ionite: Have you tried setting nomodeset?
[00:53] <ionite> ebian: how should i go about?
[00:54] <edbian> ionite: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[00:54] <ministerdude> wow. don't need live I can do it right now :D
[00:54] <idlemind324> amalgameate find . -perm u=rw,g=r,o=r -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 664 if you're still listening will change all 644 to 664 in the directory you execute this command
[00:54] <edbian> ionite: That explains it in detail.  YOu wanna follow the bit about How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS
[00:54] <edbian> ministerdude: You can edit any partition that isn't mounted
[00:54] <edbian> ministerdude: You cannot umount / so sometimes you need a liveCD
[00:54] <ministerdude> It's over to ntfs
[00:54] <ionite> ebian: why is ubuntu so unstable @ installation?
[00:54] <ministerdude> now what? :)
[00:55] <Cale> vino-server seems to die with "vino-server: ../../src/xcb_io.c:221: poll_for_event: Assertion `(((long) (event_sequence) - (long) (dpy->request)) <= 0)' failed." the moment anyone tries to connect to it. I see that there's a bug for this, but it doesn't have much information on it. Does anyone have a workaround?
[00:55] <Cale> (is there a vino ppa that I should know about?)
[00:55] <edbian> ministerdude: install windows :P
[00:56] <ministerdude> Will it automatically instal to the ntfs partition?
[00:56] <edbian> ionite: Because they like to have the latest and greatest software which means it is not well tested.
[00:56] <edbian> ionite: It is not like this on all systems.
[00:56] <szal> ministerdude: you can select what partition to install to even w/ Win7
[00:56] <ministerdude> I'm installing xp again
[00:56] <ministerdude> It's only so I can have itunes and make it work
[00:57] <szal> ministerdude: XP doesn't do that automatically anyway, there you _have_ to select the partition to install to
[00:57] <edbian> ministerdude: :)  I haven't even seen itunes in months
[00:57] <ministerdude> It's cause I have an iphone and I'm sick of trying to get linux to work the bastard :) so I'm just dual booting :)
[00:57] <ionite> ebain: so how I have to type in all the codes @ which screen? how do i access the main frame of ubuntu inorder to edit the grub lines?
[00:57] <szal> ministerdude: other than that, happy rebooting..  how about installing XP in a virtual machine? ^^
[00:57] <Cale> ministerdude: Jailbreaking tends to help
[00:58] <edbian> ionite: when you're booting you need to press the shift key to get the grub menu to come up.
[00:58] <Cale> (if you haven't tried that)
[00:58] <ministerdude> I can't jail break through linux. the jailbreakers aren't working for me here
[00:58] <Snooffy> draik so there is no way how to check if there is no corruption on the drive while the system is mounted?
[00:58] <edbian> ionite: You'll see most of that is written for you on the grub menu.
[00:58] <ministerdude> I'm gonna do that on the dual boot
[00:58] <ministerdude> and how do I do virtual machine?
[00:58] <Cale> ministerdude: You can jailbreak without a separate computer
[00:58] <edbian> ministerdude: FYI, when you install windows xp you're going to overwrite the MBR and loose the ability to boot linux
[00:58] <Cale> ministerdude: Just browse to jailbreakme.com on the device
[00:59] <Jeruvy> !find smb.conf
[00:59] <Cale> and it'll install cydia for you :)
[00:59] <ministerdude> I have the 3g and it's not compatable. we've tried that
[00:59] <Cale> hum
[00:59] <edbian> ionite: This link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen explains the blank screen in more detail but I happen to know nomodeset is a common solution.
[01:00] <ministerdude> So what's virtual machine?
[01:00] <ParadigmUltra> Question:  There is a patch that needs to be compiled into WINE for Portal 2 to work.  Is it harmfull to used a complied version of WINE rather than the package from software center?
[01:00] <ParadigmUltra> !portal
[01:00] <ionite> ebain:ure a life saver. i haven't sleep whole day trying to fix it.
[01:00] <szal> !info virtualbox
[01:00] <edbian> ionite: you're spelling my name wrong :(
[01:01] <ParadigmUltra> !ubottu
[01:01] <szal> !info virtualbox-ose
[01:01] <ParadigmUltra> !info portal
[01:02] <ionite> edbian: sorry. so i press & hold shift key till grub menu appears and then what do i click?
[01:03] <ParadigmUltra> Question:  Is it harmfull to used a complied version of WINE rather than the package from software center?
[01:03] <edbian> ionite: You don't need to hold it.  Just press it at the critical moment.  Since the critical moment is hard to know just press it a whole bunch.
[01:03] <edbian> ParadigmUltra: Not necessarily.
[01:03] <edbian> ParadigmUltra: You won't get auto-updates of wine and you will find it difficult to uninstall if you don't use the package manager
[01:03] <ParadigmUltra> I mean, would it put things in the wrong places?
[01:03] <ionite> edbian: so there after what do i do in order to key in those codes?
[01:04] <edbian> ParadigmUltra: No
[01:04] <edbian> ParadigmUltra: (I assume the wine devs are responsible)
[01:04] <ParadigmUltra> k, thanks
[01:04] <edbian> ParadigmUltra: but some mystery package could be downright malicious which is part of the reason installing from source is not the preferred method
[01:04] <ParadigmUltra> I'll consider it further,  I am very conserned about being able to uninstall it.  I do that often with wine.
[01:05] <Pyraine> Does anybody know how I can restore my name and the gwibber options at the top right after reinstalling gwibber? http://i.imgur.com/iaw7i.png
[01:05] <edbian> ionite: If you got the menu to show up you press e to edit one of the lines
[01:05] <edbian> ionite: then you add nomodeset.  Read the link I posted for more details :)  He has screenshots
[01:08] <neutrin0> woohoo - success! I'm here on the ubuntu chat room from my brand new ubuntu 11.04
[01:08] <ParadigmUltra> YAY!
[01:08] <ParadigmUltra> Congrats.  Great feeling isn't it!
[01:09] <Pyraine> congratulations neutrin0
[01:09] <neutrin0> yeah but I don't like unity that much
[01:09] <neutrin0> oops should have not said that
[01:09] <Pyraine> noone seems to, I really like it =/, I always installed rocketdock on Windows haha
[01:09] <ParadigmUltra> I like it.  The bar is missing some things, but it's really easy to find things
[01:10] <ParadigmUltra> I really like it too
[01:10] <Pyraine> the super menu is really easy to navigate
[01:10] <edbian> neutrin0: yay
[01:10] <Knoxx> hello
[01:10] <quentusrex> neutrin0, I think unity can be interesting for single monitor machines like laptops, but there are bugs. On my desktop I have a quad monitor setup so unity is useless.
[01:11] <ParadigmUltra> The only downer is that I use to use Avant which was awesome, and you could add nice widgets.  I miss my widgets
[01:11] <Troy^> there is suppose to be a 11.10 release before the end of the year is out correct?
[01:11] <Pyraine> quentusrex: What bugs are you having? I had a dual monitor set up for a day with unity and never noticed anything problematic
[01:11] <GladiusMaximus34> I think unity is good for new users, but for everyone else there is gnome
[01:11] <GladiusMaximus34> or kde
[01:11] <neutrin0> brb - need to take a shower after a hard night work getting this to work :)
[01:11] <quentusrex> Pyraine, I ran into problems where clicking the left app icon would not actually bring the app to the forefront.
[01:11] <prower> hello :> the version of qjackctl in the natty repositories has an issue that causes it to segfault...it's fixed in the version for oneric though, is there a way i could install that without having to upgrade to unstable packages for everything else?
[01:12] <ParadigmUltra> There is no new Gnome for Ubuntu :-(  only the old one
[01:12] <Pyraine> quentusrex: ah right
[01:12] <quentusrex> Pyraine, when the bug hit the top bar options would be for the last application.  Such as a Firefox top bar options for gedit, etc.
[01:12] <esing> what kind of error is this?
[01:12] <Troy^> gnome 3 ?
[01:12] <jrib> Pyraine: did you sort out your sound issue?
[01:12] <esing> Need to get 1480 kB of archives.
[01:12] <esing> After this operation, 3617 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[01:12] <esing> E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[01:13] <lg> Hello world
[01:13] <Pyraine> jrib: yeah I did, I had to edit the alsa-base file and set the model to a 6-stack dig, I now have my subwoofer working alongside my stereo speakers, so better than windows, thanks for the help
[01:13] <jrib> Pyraine: cool
[01:13] <gogeta> esing: sudo apt-get clean
[01:13] <esing> thx
[01:13] <jamay> hello
[01:14] <GladiusMaximus34> can I move the ubuntu logical partition to another location on the same drive?
[01:14] <Pyraine> quentusrex: ah right, guess I won't be using unity when I move to a permanent dual monitor set up in september haha
[01:14] <Pyraine> Does anybody know how I can restore my name and the gwibber options at the top right after reinstalling gwibber? http://i.imgur.com/iaw7i.png
[01:15] <ParadigmUltra> anyone here use compiz?
[01:15] <gogeta> esing: never saw anyone fill that before heh
[01:15] <Troy^> what gui app is used in ubuntu 11.04?
[01:16] <gogeta> esing: normaly ubuntu auto cleans it
[01:16] <ParadigmUltra> The window manager is called Unity
[01:16] <Troy^> do most people use gnome 3 instead?
[01:16] <gogeta> Troy^: unity is fai;
[01:16] <gogeta> fail
[01:16] <Troy^> lol
[01:17] <Troy^> so i guess installing gnome 3 is a yes
[01:17] <ParadigmUltra> what ever the previous version gnome is, can't use the latest one
[01:17] <DeviceZer0> unity is better then gnome3
[01:17] <gogeta> Troy^: gnome 3 is fail
[01:17] <DeviceZer0> gnome3 = worse fail then unity(as of now)
[01:17] <ParadigmUltra> Unity is nice
[01:17] <gogeta> Troy^: xfce lxde hehe
[01:17] <DeviceZer0> i actually dont mind unity
[01:17] <faint545> just stick with "ubuntu classic" or gtk2.0 lol
[01:17] <ParadigmUltra> I use Unity with Compiz = Holy S*&$ it rocks  so much!
[01:17] <Troy^> i remember back in the day things like blackbox and all those other minority ones
[01:18] <gogeta> faint545: xfce uses gtk3 and it does not fail
[01:18] <einseenai> guys, i'm working with lenovo x120e, when i tried to install 11.04 23 bit with unetbootin, nothing happened after reboot - only windows loaded again, but with x64 image everything worked fine - why?
[01:18] <apporc> yeah ,just stick with "ubuntu classic" too.
[01:18] <dr_willis> einseenai:  you did an install to the hard drive via Unetbootin?
[01:18] <gogeta> faint545: also doesent shove 3d down your throte the most useless system resourcce using crap
[01:18] <simbioz> Hi
[01:18] <simbioz> I have ubuntu 11.04 installed. My thumbnail cache auto delete itself from time to time. How do I avoid this?
[01:19] <gogeta> faint545: stop trying to be osx
[01:19] <Troy^> xfce is very minimal lol
[01:19] <faint545> gogeta: ?
[01:19] <GladiusMaximus34> can I move the ubuntu logical partition to another location on the same drive?
[01:19] <einseenai> dr_willis, no, i burned the image to a usb flash drive with unetbootin
[01:19] <faint545> gogeta, what do u mean "stop trying to be osx?" lol
[01:19] <gogeta> Troy^: no its not lxde is xfce is more like gnome 2 these days
[01:19] <venial> can anyone explain to me how to mount this drive, i know it has data on it and was once a linux drive but tried to read it in windows 7 with extreader or some kind of software : http://imageshack.us/f/269/screenshotvpp.png/
[01:19] <gogeta> faint545: ubuntu has always tryed to act like osx
[01:20] <apporc> GladiusMaximus34, yes , your can
[01:20] <faint545> gogeta: ?? i dont get that impression at all
[01:20] <Corey> venial: It's listed as free space.
[01:20] <ParadigmUltra> GladiusMaximus34: I don't see why not, as long as your grub is in the master boot record and knows where everything is
[01:20] <Corey> venial: You could image it and then use testdisk on it, but...
[01:20] <gogeta> faint545: the useless 3d effects the moving of the windows buttions
[01:20] <dr_willis> einseenai:  i wold guess the installer failed to properl install grub or was a bad iso or somtning. theres not really any reason one should fail  and the othe work.
[01:20] <apporc> gogeta, hello.
[01:20] <gogeta> apporc: hello heh
[01:20] <faint545> gogeta: right... but most of those are options..... and the effects are also optional...
[01:21] <venial> testdisk in windows?
[01:21] <GladiusMaximus34> ParadigmUltra: GParted tells me grub will not be able to locate linux and might render my computer unbootable
[01:21] <gogeta> faint545: as of unity and gnome 3 they are not why i dont use eyther
[01:21] <Tbruff13> yes i would like some help with debian the newest version i know this is the ubuntu channel but while using ubuntu this used to happen im hoping someone might know a solution
[01:21] <apporc> gogeta, It's evening in usa , yes ?
[01:21] <GladiusMaximus34> I don't like the Dock approach to window management
[01:21] <faint545> gogeta: i didnt say that though....
[01:21] <ParadigmUltra> GladiusMaximus34: Oh, well then that's bad
[01:21] <emmkai> guys, i've just formatted to install ubuntu again (10.04 this time) for software compatibility, but now i cant fix up my 3G dongle as i did with 11.04
[01:21] <einseenai> dr_willis, well, the point is that i also tried fedora, puppy with unetbootin, and opensuse with dd tool. none of them didn't boot in 32...
[01:22] <Tbruff13> okay when ever i enable compiz the window buttons disappear why and how do i fix
[01:22] <GladiusMaximus34> ParadigmUltra: can I do a grub-update or somethging to relocate my new linux partition?
[01:22] <ParadigmUltra> Tbruff13: Are you using Unity also?
[01:22] <dr_willis> einseenai:  thats weird. Whats the cpu exactly? there were some 64bit cpus that couldent do 32bit os's i recall.. but they were sort of special.
[01:22] <ParadigmUltra> GladiusMaximus34: Wish I knew.
[01:23] <faint545> gogeta: i was merely suggesting to use gtk2.0 since Unit and Gnome3 seems to still be iffy.
[01:23] <emmkai> if i press the network logo in the top right corner, i dont see a list of "mobile broadband" as i did in ubuntu 11.04, even though it was empty
[01:23] <dr_willis> einseenai:  you mean none of them worked in 32bit..
[01:23] <Pyraine> Does anybody know how I can restore my name and the gwibber options at the top right after reinstalling gwibber? http://i.imgur.com/iaw7i.png
[01:23] <HeIsRisen> Where does lightscribe simple labeler install?
[01:23] <Troy^> im just scared if i get ubuntu 11.04 64bit the wireless support is not going to work on my asus g73jh
[01:23] <einseenai> dr_willis, i'm in a panic a bit, because it's a nonsense, cause any 64 bit processor has ability to boot 32.
[01:23] <josephprince2> i m running on android, trying to explore on Unix utility such as wget.apt-get on the android, but all i get is "command not found"
[01:23] <einseenai> dr_willis yes
[01:23] <HeIsRisen> I couldn't find it in usr/bin
[01:23] <gogeta> faint545: gtk3  isnt broken just the project using it
[01:23] <grejppi> Hello… is it possible to boot a *live cd* of Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro (8,2)?~
[01:23] <HeIsRisen> I am running Ubuntu 11.04
[01:23] <GladiusMaximus34> Also, I don't think i can copy paste the Extended Partition for some reason in GParted
[01:23] <dr_willis> einseenai:  there were/are some 64bits that cant.. but the way you are talking the install worked.. but not grub..
[01:23] <ParadigmUltra> GladiusMaximus34: I don't know anything about grub, never messed with it
[01:23] <einseenai> dr_willis, also hybrid pclinuxos worked. but that's all
[01:23] <gogeta> faint545: as i said xfce uses gtk3 and its just fine
[01:24] <faint545> gogtea: wasn't aware of that.
[01:24] <szal> !tab | faint545
[01:24] <einseenai> dr_willis, nooo, install didn't work, since i couldn't even boot 32 bit written flash drive.
[01:24] <Troy^> someone screenshot there xfce setup
[01:25] <gogeta> Troy^:?
[01:25] <Tbruff13> okay when ever i enable compiz the window buttons disappear why and how do i fix this
[01:25] <Troy^> nevermind
[01:25] <ParadigmUltra> Tbruff13: Are you using Unity also?
[01:25] <dr_willis> einseenai:  only thing i can think of is thers one 64bit cpu out i recall mention ed in here that cant do 32bit .. but it was like a rather rare server cpu.
[01:25] <gogeta> Troy^: thers a pic on the xubuntu site
[01:26] <einseenai> dr_willis, i have amd e-350 chipset. but it's not itanium (exactly the one 64 bit old intel chip without 32 bit support). so it must work
[01:26] <dr_willis> einseenai:  postt to askubuntu.com perhaps someone may know why.
[01:26] <Tbruff13> ParadigmUltra, I am using a debian system but because ubuntu takes so much from debian i thought you guys could maybe help
[01:27] <Troy^> so whats the difference between xubuntu and just regular ubuntu and all the other ones
[01:27] <gogeta> Troy^: but like pretty mutch all window managers it can be themed and stuff
[01:27] <Troy^> gogeta: yes i realize that i think ubuntu 10 used gnome correct?
[01:27] <gogeta> Troy^: diffrent wm diffrent defult packages like it has abiword insteed of openoffice
[01:27] <ParadigmUltra> I see.  Well there is a compatability mode for using it with unity, but I don't think that will be helpfull to you....
[01:27] <GladiusMaximus34> Troy^: Its the desktop enviornment. Different desktop enviornments have different default packages, different layouts, and different configurations
[01:27] <ParadigmUltra> Tbruff13: Which buttons disapear?
[01:28] <gogeta> Troy^: yea ubuntu 10 uses gnome 2
[01:28] <einseenai> dr_willis, thanks a lot! i will. i know the thing is weird. and everywhere i asked about it people said it can't be. thank you.
[01:28] <ParadigmUltra> Tbruff13: Make sure you enable window decorations
[01:28] <GladiusMaximus34> Troy^: Ubuntu has Gnome Desktop Enviornemnt, or Unity. Xubuntu has XFCE. You should only use XFCE if you have a old computer that can't handle gnome or unity.
[01:28] <Tbruff13> ParadigmUltra, ok
[01:29] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: or you dont like unity
[01:29] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: geatures wise its pretty mutch the same as gnome 2
[01:29] <Troy^> yea unity looks pretty wrong
[01:29] <rhin0> or lubuntu now GladiusMaximus34
[01:29] <GladiusMaximus34> gogeta: If you don't like unity you can always use gnome
[01:29] <Tbruff13> ParadigmUltra, you are awesome why does ubuntu steal from debian i really want to know
[01:29] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: gnome 3 sucks to
[01:30] <Troy^> i prefer gnome i wanted to try gnome 3 but you guys say it sucks
[01:30] <rhin0> yep -- unity is to pull in the apple crowd I reckon -- it's marketing
[01:30]  * rhin0 very pleased with ubuntu now
[01:30] <ParadigmUltra> Tbruff13: Cause Debian is awesome, but not quite awesome enough ;-)
[01:30] <GladiusMaximus34> gogeta, rhin0, Troy^: you can still use KDE or gnome 2 (this is what i use)
[01:30] <gogeta> Troy^: maybe you will like it dont take my personal exp to hart
[01:30] <rhin0> but I use classic desktop
[01:30] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: gnome 2 is gone in 11.10
[01:30] <Troy^> gogeta: i just loved gnome 2
[01:30] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: so i switched away early
[01:30] <OerHeks> no gnome3 is in 11.10
[01:30] <GladiusMaximus34> unity is also for new users in general. its easy to use, but it makes advanced users kinda mad
[01:31] <gogeta> OerHeks: not by defult but in the repos
[01:31] <shantorn> even grumpy
[01:31] <Troy^> so when is 11.10 coming
[01:31] <GladiusMaximus34> You can custom install gnom2 in 11.10
[01:31] <rhin0> GladiusMaximus34: I backed out when I couldn't find the bash shell
[01:31] <dr_willis> Troy^:  11.10 is the date..  10th month.. 2011
[01:31] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: make us tip out this distro
[01:31] <faint545> is 11.10 gonna be using Unity?
[01:31] <gogeta> rip
[01:31] <rhin0> will classic desktop always be available --- I hope so
[01:31] <dr_willis> faint545:  yes. unity is to be the default.
[01:31] <gogeta> faint545: yes untill everyone revolts i dont think unity is gonna go away
[01:31] <Troy^> dr_willis: oh well thanks for clarifying that, i feel slightly unintelligent
[01:31] <dr_willis> rhin0:  no it will not be in 11.10
[01:31] <spankbot> Anyone install VMWare and get the error:  Kernel Headers for version xx.xx.xx. were not found.  If you install them ina a non-default path you can specify the path below
[01:32] <gogeta> faint545: and with no more fallback i think they will
[01:32] <OerHeks> gogeta, get your fact right > Alpha-2 ships GNOME 3.0, with some parts already upgraded to the 3.1.2 alpha releases. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2
[01:32] <rhin0> dr_willis I wish they wouldn't mess around with us like that
[01:32] <gogeta> OerHeks: i said it will be in the repo
[01:32] <dr_willis> rhin0:  unless they change their minds.. but thats life..
[01:32] <faint545> damn...
[01:32] <gogeta> OerHeks: but unity will be defult
[01:32] <GladiusMaximus34> There are so many desktop enviornments that you can install (custom install or default)
[01:32] <Troy^> so say if one installed 11.04 now? and 11.10 is released would updating to 11.10 be simple or is that a whole different thing im not in understanding
[01:32] <dr_willis> if you want a more classic type desktop. theres always Lubuntu/lxde
[01:33] <GladiusMaximus34> that is the beauty of linux. It is completely costomizable
[01:33] <GladiusMaximus34> you can use any desktop enviornment you want
[01:33] <dr_willis> Troy^:  upgrading to the next release is not that hard. but theres alwayus potentials for problems.
[01:33] <rhin0> I ran xubuntu 10.04 for a long time -- rock solid
[01:33] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: yep when the poision the koolade luckly its not the only bowl lol
[01:33] <faint545> god, i can never remember how to unzip BZ2 files...
[01:33] <Troy^> yea, i guess alot of people use older versions for a while
[01:34] <gogeta> faint545: shoukld be a right click
[01:34] <szal> faint545: bunzip2 filename
[01:34] <GladiusMaximus34> gogeta: yah
[01:34] <dr_willis> a lot of the old desktop  enviroments/windowmangfers are so old and show their age badly. they dont have the featuresets people expect these days or are lacking in other little areas that they become annoying to use.
[01:34] <faint545> gogeta: i meant from terminal lol
[01:34] <dr_willis> !info unp | faint545
[01:34] <mouse> what password is the archive manager looking for i have two systems on i've tried the host password and the other pc with no success? i think it's trying to download to usr/bin/file_roller?
[01:34] <gogeta> dr_willis: yea many do but thers 2 everyone has named that do not
[01:35] <faint545> dr_willis, thx for the heads up
[01:35] <GladiusMaximus34> is there a channel to specifically discuss partitioning drives?
[01:35] <szal> faint545: or if it's a .tar.bz2 -> tar xjvf filename <- the j is for decompressing bz2; use z for gz
[01:35] <dr_willis> GladiusMaximus34:  never seen a channel on that.. not a lot to discuss on the topic I guess. :)
[01:36] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: we can help with that
[01:36] <dr_willis> 4 primaries max. one of which can be an extended holding logicals....  perhaps the #hardware channel GladiusMaximus34 .
[01:37] <GladiusMaximus34> ParadigmUltra: GParted tells me grub will not be able to locate linux and might render my computer unbootable
[01:37] <GladiusMaximus34> GParted tells me grub will not be able to locate linux and might render my computer unbootable
[01:37] <grejppi1> Hello everyone~
[01:37] <freshmeat> Is macbook able to install ubuntu?
[01:37] <rhin0> in looking 11.04 supported until october 2012 -- I had to move to 11.04 to run an ssd ... I have actually decreased in support as 10.04 supported until 04/2013 .... I will have to learn unity desktop in october 2012?  no path forward for classic desktop -- we all have to use unity?  I just want classic gnome
[01:37] <dr_willis> !mac
[01:37] <martin_tsc> freshmeat, wanna trade?
[01:38] <dr_willis> rhin0:  classic gnome is being phased out.. so you will hav to change eventually.
[01:38] <rhin0> aargh dr_willis
[01:38] <grejppi1> Speaking of Macs, can they boot a live cd?
[01:38] <freshmeat> wat u want? martin
[01:38] <dr_willis> rhin0:  the gnome devs are pushing gnome 3.. ubuntu is pushing unity, with gnome 3 as an option.. thats just how it is..
[01:38] <szal> rhin0: upgrade to 11.10 when it's out and then later to 12.04, and you'll have support until April 2015
[01:38] <martin_tsc> I'm having difficulties connecting through a VPN, can someone lend a helping hand?
[01:38] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: i got that before on old pcs but never acully broke my pc
[01:39] <dr_willis> well gnome3 is techincally the 'core' under unity or gnome shell. :)
[01:39] <rhin0> but dr_willis just said that gnome classic disappears with 11.10 szal
[01:39] <gogeta> GladiusMaximus34: its just a warning abought going byond the secors the bios can read
[01:39] <dr_willis> theres more to 'support' then what desktop gui is being used.
[01:39] <GladiusMaximus34> gogeta: ok
[01:40]  * szal doesn't friggin care, using KDE ^^
[01:40] <dr_willis> there is no gnome classic in 11.10 alpha2 that im using right now rhin0. Unless i overlooked it.
[01:40] <rhin0> kde is a resource hog isn't it
[01:40] <dr_willis> kde had the same pains/arguents/issues when they went from the old kde to the new..
[01:40] <Pyraine> does anybody know how I can manage my appindicators?
[01:40] <dr_willis> rhin0:  not really.
[01:40] <Plugh> Since Unity and Gnome have just been mentioned I have a question. I'm used to running Gnome (used it for years). Someone said that I could have just selected Ubuntu Classic with Unity installed instead of removing Unity and installing  Gnome to get my standard Gnome environment I'm used to?
[01:40] <szal> rhin0: not more of one than Gnome is
[01:40] <rhin0> I dislike the fussiness -- I prefer simple gnome
[01:40] <Plugh> Sounds odd to me that Unity could act like Gnome without Gnome installed.
[01:41] <dr_willis> rhin0:  if you wantg the  lightest desktop. Lxde is the way to go.
[01:41] <mouse> what password is the archive manager looking for i have two systems on i've tried the host password and the other pc with no success? i think it's trying to download to usr/bin/file_roller?
[01:41] <ParadigmUltra> Plugh: That is correct.  You have completely wasted your time ;-)
[01:41] <martin_tsc> Can someone help me setting up a VPN?  I simply need some basic info
[01:41] <dr_willis> mouse:  downloading TO /usr/bin/file_roller makes no sence...
[01:41] <rhin0> never seen general chitchat in here -- later folks
[01:41] <dr_willis> mouse:  using the fileroller app to open an archive. and it asks for a password.. could mean the archive is password protected
[01:41] <Telephone> #wolfgame
[01:42] <Telephone> :) join #wolfgame
[01:42] <terrence> ParadigmUltra, now i see the x button and border but i cant move windows on debian
[01:42] <martin_tsc> Can someone help me setting up a VPN?  I simply need to know which is the gateway that I conect through?
[01:42] <faint545> wats the name of the package for GTK 3?
[01:42] <ParadigmUltra> Plugh: Unity doesn't act like Gnome, you just get a session without Unity at all.  it goes back like the previous version of Ubuntu
[01:42] <faint545> im trying to install it
[01:42] <dr_willis> !vpn | martin_tsc
[01:43] <mouse> dr_willis: thx, great they didn't give me a password :(
[01:43] <gogeta> faint545: gtk3
[01:43] <martin_tsc> dr_willis, i've seen that page too often by now, it doesnt explain it for dummies though
[01:44] <faint545> gogeta, umm..  not in synaptic.
[01:44] <martin_tsc> dr_willis, thanks, but no help. :(
[01:44] <gogeta> faint545: i was using arch so you may not see gtk3 untill 11.10
[01:44] <Plugh> ParadigmUltra: I don't know what Ubuntu was like without Gnome. I jumped from 9.10 to 11.04 due to PulseAudio being broken for me in the versions in between.
[01:44] <gogeta> faint545: or even the gtk3 xfce
[01:45] <gogeta> faint545: you can install the paa for gnome 3 if you wanna try it before hand
[01:45] <gogeta> ppa
[01:45] <ParadigmUltra> yeah. it's like 9.10 gogeta:
[01:45] <faint545> gogeta, uhm. nah lol already tried GNOME 3 and it was horrid.
[01:45] <ParadigmUltra> try it
[01:45] <Plugh> I know I couldn't live with Unity from what I saw of it so it got uninstalled PDQ and Gnome went back in.
[01:45] <dr_willis> martin_tsc:  you may want to ask a more specicif question to the channel then. or hit askubuntu.com or the web/forums for vpn for dummies guides..  the little i used vpn's last year i figured it out..
[01:46] <dr_willis> unity and gnome3 are both a work in progress.. they will get better..  like all software normally does..
[01:46] <Plugh> The latest Gnome has some odd scroll bar thing in some apps. That may be a window manager issue.
[01:46] <replay> quick question, how do you enter single user mode? grub doesn't let me hit 'e' fast enough to enter 'single' at boot
[01:46] <Plugh> dr_willis: I've heard some people aren't keen on Gnome 3. So far, I'm still on Gnome 2.
[01:46] <gogeta> faint545: stock yes but its all js so everything abought it can be changed
[01:46] <dr_willis> Plugh:  well  Gnome2 is basically being phased out. so it wont matter in a year or 2... :)
[01:46] <gogeta> faint545: rethemed gnome 3 is acully quite good
[01:47] <gogeta> faint545: relly something ubuntu should have done
[01:47] <Plugh> dr_willis: I hope it doesn't get "dumbed down" so it isn't suitable for more of a power user such as myself.
[01:48] <dr_willis> Plugh:  dumbing down is the new definition of being 'user friendly' it seems.. been a trend for years.
[01:48] <gogeta> faint545: and thats whats going to jump it far ahed of untiy and you cant change crap attude
[01:48] <Plugh> That is what I felt of Unity. Not a bad environment for someone who might be new to Linux or needs some handholding but it was just going to get in my way.
[01:49]  * rhin0 couldn't find the bash prompt (exited & never looked at it again))
[01:49] <dr_willis> Plugh:  one of same arguments ive seen used against gnome...
[01:49] <dr_willis> rhin0:  alt-f2 xterm is to hard? :)
[01:49] <rhin0> well you have to know dr_willis
[01:49] <rhin0> I prefer menus where you know where everything is
[01:49] <rhin0> obviously
[01:49] <Plugh> dr_willis: *nods*  I don't mind having some stuff (ie. config things) done via GUI but other times I have things to do and I just want the environment to get out of my way and let me do what I need to. :-)
[01:49] <dr_willis> rhin0:  most people that are expecting bash would know...
[01:49] <dr_willis> ther are addons for unity to give you the classic gnome menus.
[01:49] <rhin0> I put it on my panel
[01:50] <Plugh> Hm... I should look for info on those addons.
[01:50] <gogeta> dr_willis: and i can make gnome 3 look and act like gnome 2 in fact thers a whole addon pack for it now
[01:51] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com has a list of indicator-applets that have a classic menu. then theres the 'cardpio' (cardio?) somting that puts a classic like menu in the panel.
[01:51] <gogeta> dr_willis: i cant do that to unity
[01:51] <dr_willis> ive not messed with gnome3 at all - other then to try it on a live cd.
[01:52] <Plugh> Since I started using 11.04 I found some backwards movement. I can't snapshot my session properly. I have to start a terminal windows, resize it, and start tabs on every boot/login. I also manually run "pulseaudio -D" and two other programs every login. Any idea when session saving will be fixed again?
[01:52]  * Plugh hopes before 11.10
[01:52] <dr_willis> the whole idea of 'sessions' seems to be slowly getting lost with the common use of hibernate/suspend..
[01:53] <Plugh> dr_willis: that might work with laptops. Not so much with a desktop.
[01:53] <dr_willis>  the whole idea of a 'desktop' is getting lost also. :)
[01:53] <Plugh> well... this thing I call a desktop is a machine that is anything but easily portable. :-)
[01:53] <dr_willis> looked today. and the laptops outnumbered the desktops in the stores by like 3 to 1 i saw.
[01:54] <Reikoku> dr_willis: Desktops are only used by gamers these days
[01:54] <Plugh> yeah, laptops today are not that far off what used to be called desktops in features for similar $
[01:54] <Plugh> There are some high end and/or more intensive applications I run at times.
[01:54] <aeon-ltd> Plugh: i'd go further and say if they use 'laptop' or 'SFF' parts they're not desktops
[01:54] <Plugh> I don't have much time for games.
[01:55] <al_nz1> why does 'sfdisk -C 255 -H 255 -S 255 /dev/sdb' take me into sfdisk interactive rather than executing the command from the shell?
[01:55] <dr_willis> the whole 'gamers pushing the industry in specific directions' mantra is also getting to be a thing of the past also. :)
[01:55] <Plugh> I wasn't sure if session saving is more an Ubuntu thing or something that might not be working as I tried to return to Gnome.
[01:56] <dr_willis> gnome has its session management.  so its not ubuntu specific.
[01:56] <dr_willis> bbl. time for work
[01:56] <Plugh> So many of the games I see on TV all seem similar. Mostly shoot 'em ups it seems. I've been there and done that with Doom and Doom 2 but I'm so over it.
[01:57] <StaticShock> if i unmount a USB drive, how can i re-mount it later?
[01:57] <StaticShock> i use ubuntu's auto-mount, so i don't know what command it actually executes to perform the mount, and i don't know how to find it in /dev
[01:57] <ministerdude> downloaded virtualbox now how do I instal it?
[01:57] <Plugh> dr_willis: I'll dig around the net a bit more and see if I can find other reports of people with session save errors and any info on how to fix it.
[01:58] <Plugh> session save problems (not errors)
[01:58] <iceroot> ministerdude: use the repo from vbox instead of downloading a deb-file
[01:58] <iceroot> ministerdude: if you only need the free version (no usb support) its already in the ubuntu repos
[01:59] <spankbot> You'll get a kick out of this... I had my 4yr old son on my lap to teach him letters and numbers on the keyboard.. I have him type terminal commands, ls, tree, lspci, etc... so he learns and can see system responses.  Then I asked him does he like Windows or Linux, his response, " Linux, because I don't see any windows here" ;-)
[01:59] <ministerdude> Still a newb no clue what any of that means
[02:00] <faint545> is it possible to color every other line in terminal?
[02:00] <faint545> like the text
[02:00] <iceroot> ministerdude: what ubuntu version?
[02:00] <ministerdude> 10.04
[02:00] <qin> faint545: yes
[02:01] <iceroot> ministerdude: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    run that in the terminal
[02:01] <iceroot> ministerdude: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free
[02:01] <ministerdude> K. now what
[02:01] <iceroot> ministerdude: copy that into the file. save the file. and then run this in terminal
[02:02] <iceroot> ministerdude: wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[02:02] <cypha> how do I make the scrollbars always visible?
[02:02] <MrUnagi> cypha: in the settings
[02:02] <iceroot> ministerdude: after that run "sudo apt-get update"
[02:03] <iceroot> ministerdude: then you will see in software-center, synaptic or whatever you use virtualbox and you can install it
[02:03] <ministerdude> takes me right back to the user name
[02:03] <faint545> qin: how?
[02:04] <cypha> MrUnagi, it's not in Appearance
[02:04] <MrUnagi> to be honest i thought i was in the os x channel =/
[02:05] <ministerdude> No virtual in software center
[02:06] <cypha> how do I make the scrollbars always visible?
[02:09] <jeff_> Cypha, for what application?
[02:09] <ministerdude> installing virtualbox ose
[02:09] <cypha> all
[02:09] <cypha> change ubuntu's default
[02:09] <qin> faint545: http://www.faqs.org/docs/abs/HTML/colorizing.html for colors, the loop for processing text http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_01.html
[02:11] <Pyraine> does anybody know where I can find a control panel for configuring applets/indicators, or a folder where they're all located or something?
[02:12] <Pyraine> I don't believe none of you know :o
[02:16] <chas11man> I'm making a home server right now.  Can I just make up a domain name?
[02:17] <qin> Pyraine: ~/.cache/indicators/ ?
[02:17] <Jeruvy> chas11man: it's recommended to end it in .local to avoid routing issues. Best if you use a dynamic dns service (like dyndns.org)
[02:18] <qin> Pyraine: Also gsetting: from http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10667664&postcount=9
[02:19] <Max00355> hello
[02:19] <Max00355> #python
[02:19] <chas11man> Jervvy: ok, I'm a noob.  So I could do something like serverName.local?  And what would dyndns.org do for me?
[02:20] <MXIIA> can I find the Unity source code anywhere?
[02:20] <Jeruvy> chas11man: why do you need a domain name?
[02:20] <joshfng> n
[02:21] <Pyraine> qin: hmm, neither of those appear to show me what I need to see, or appear to let me do what I need to do, I have reinstalled gwibber and the indicator has gone and I liked it and what it back ;_;
[02:22] <qin> chas11man: With dyndns you can point www.domainname.com to dynamic ip, os even if your isp will change your address, you can still find yourself (form outside of your lan)
[02:22] <chas11man> Jeruvy: in all honesty, I'm working with suse enterprise but I couldn't find a suse irc channel.
[02:23] <mainrain> my laptop for some reason is no longer connecting to wireless.  I've tried toggling the wireless on/off with the fn-f3(where the wireless logo is) but nothing pops up.  Yesterday there was an applet to choose wireless networks but today its missing, any ideas?
[02:23] <dcodom> check switch on laptop case
[02:24] <mainrain> thats the fn-f3, doesn't have a physical switch
[02:24] <Jeruvy> chas11man: ah suse I believe is irc.opensuse.org channe l #suse
[02:24] <MXIIA> is the Unity source code published anywhere?
[02:24] <Guest13230> Can anyone help me to format linux and install win? To do dualboot?
[02:24] <chas11man> Jeruvy: thank you
[02:24] <mainrain> iwconfig shows wlan1 is on
[02:24] <qin> mainrain: rfkill list
[02:25] <KM0201> Guest13230: what do you mean?
[02:25] <Jeruvy> chas11man: cheers.
[02:25] <mainrain> qin: hmm, soft blocked: no  hard blocked: yes
[02:25] <mainrain> qin: which would imply it does have a physical switch?
[02:26] <Langley> hi
[02:26] <Tigerboy> tigerboy #freenode
[02:26] <Guest13230> my win dont install in the new partition
[02:27] <KM0201> Guest13230: answer your PM
[02:28] <Guest13230> i formatted the linux, I formatted the linux partition and created a new partition
[02:28] <mainrain> qin: i cant find a physical swithc anywhere, had this laptop a few months and it has very few switches(acer aspire 7750g)
[02:28] <MXIIA> Is Unity open source?
[02:29] <dr_willis> MXIIA:  yes
[02:29] <MXIIA> dr_willis,  where can I find it's source?
[02:29] <bombtrack01> hi people, I have a  SiS 771/671 (VGA) and my ubuntu crashes (logs off and go back to log in screen) when I try to watch an AVI movie on mplayer. Any suggestions?
[02:29] <mainrain> qin: actually, toggling fn-f3 (i guess i hadn't hit it enough times) turns off hard blocked: no
[02:29] <dr_willis> in the src repos i imagine
[02:30] <mainrain> qin: but i still dont have an applet or a way to choose a wireless network, can it be run from the command line?
[02:30] <dr_willis> !source
[02:30] <qin> mainrain: What does, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[02:31] <qin> MXIIA: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/unity
[02:31] <Senix> where is my bash history saved too on ubuntu?
[02:32] <Su-Ge> $HOME/.bash_history
[02:32] <qin> Senix: ~/.bash_history
[02:32] <mainrain> qin: about 10 pages of Cell 01 - stuff, Cell 02 - stuff, down to cell 29
[02:32] <mainrain> lots of IE: Uknown:  some long string in hex
[02:32] <ministerdude> virtual hard disk. create new or use original
[02:33] <qin> mainrain: sudo service network-manager restart
[02:33] <BobDole> I'm using Ubuntu. The sound no longer works on my Ubuntu netbook. When I play audio it just plays back some metallic tones.
[02:33] <BobDole> How can I fix this?
[02:33] <BobDole> Do I need to update the driver or something
[02:33] <Reikoku> Did it work before?
[02:34] <BobDole> Reikoku, It did and someone told me to install ubuntu restricted extras the other day
[02:34] <BobDole> and it worked for about a day and now it has reverted back to how it was before
[02:34] <Reikoku> :(
[02:34] <mainrain> qin: just says restarting, but no visible changes and iwconfig doesn't show wlan1 connect to anything
[02:35] <Reikoku> BobDole: So, it didnt work before you installed restricted extras right?
[02:35] <BobDole> Reikoku, Yes.
[02:35] <Pyraine> argh this is so frustrating
[02:35] <Reikoku> BobDole: What happens if you do sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio?
[02:35] <Reikoku> Turn sound down first
[02:35] <BobDole> after I installed restricted extras it worked for 24 hours  and now no longer.
[02:36] <Reikoku> Press ctrl-c after a few secs
[02:36] <qin> mainrain: What about applet
[02:36] <Reikoku> To kill it
[02:37] <mainrain> qin: no applet, i killed nm-applet and restarted it, it runs but doesn't display anything on the top bar
[02:37] <mainrain> just says "** message: applet now removed from the notification area"
[02:37] <BobDole> Reikoku, I received "bash: /dev/audio: Permission denied
[02:37] <BobDole> "
[02:37] <Reikoku> BobDole: 9/10 sound issues I ever got on Linux could be blamed on pulseaudio
[02:37] <delinquentme> so im running IE in a VirtualBox .. hoping to check on a website thats on my localhost .. on the primary machine .... so where i can view in chromium on my ubuntu native machine at localhost:3000 ... im wondering how i can get to it from within the virtual box
[02:37] <mainrain> thats the first thing nm-applet says on starting
[02:37] <Pyraine> BobDole: tell me what you see when you run aplay -l in terminal
[02:37] <qin> mainrain: Is it unity?
[02:37] <mainrain> qin: maverick
[02:37] <mainrain> qin: pre-unity
[02:38] <Reikoku> BobDole: Sounds like your sound device is locked, unless it's /dev/sound in Ubuntu
[02:38] <qin> mainrain: Alt-F2 and gnome-panel --replace
[02:38] <Reikoku> Try sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sound
[02:38] <Reikoku> It will sound horrible if it works so turn volume down
[02:39] <mainrain> qin: replaces the top bar, but still no applet :S  very odd
[02:39] <BobDole> Reikoku, Sending you the results in pm since its too long to send to you in here
[02:39] <BobDole> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC269 Analog [ALC269 Analog]
[02:39] <BobDole>   Subdevices: 1/1
[02:39] <BobDole>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[02:39] <Reikoku> BobDole: There shouldn't be results
[02:39] <mainrain> qin: other applets are there (dropbox, battery, sound, clock, messaging, power button)
[02:40] <BobDole> Reikoku, those are the playback audio devices.
[02:40] <Pyraine> BobDole: What brand is your netbook? Fujitsu?
[02:40] <firman> hi
[02:40] <cryptodira> is there a method/program to enable "mouse wrapping"..... mouse moving off one side of screen magically appears on the edge of the opposite side.  10.10 amd/64
[02:40] <BobDole> Acer
[02:40] <Reikoku> cryptodira: Which desktop environment?
[02:40] <Pyraine> Bobdole: Aspire One?
[02:40] <qin> mainrain: Did you try to add it (right click on panel)? Also: nmcli con list)
[02:41] <cryptodira> Reikoku, currently using gnome... will willing to adapt in order to have the ability.
[02:41] <ssfdre38> hey would it be wise if i install ubuntu and kubuntu on the same computer?
[02:41] <BobDole> Pyraine, That is it.
[02:41] <Pyraine> Bobdole: Right two seconds
[02:41] <Reikoku> cryptodira: The only mouse wrapping I know is wrapping to next virtual desktop
[02:42] <Pyraine> Bobdole: run gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[02:42] <mainrain> qin: found it, for some reason there was no 'notifation area' applet, got deleted on way or another
[02:42] <mainrain> qin: thanks
[02:42] <cryptodira> Reikoku,  yes, i found that.... i would like to wrap within the same screen/desktop
[02:42] <dr_willis> seen that as a bug with synergy once  cryptodira
[02:43] <BobDole> Pyraine, I've just run it.
[02:43] <Pyraine> Bobdole: then at the bottom of the file add: options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire
[02:43] <BobDole> The results are too long for me to paste. Is there anything in particular I should look for.
[02:43] <Pyraine> BobDole: save the file, reboot, come back let me know results
[02:43] <Reikoku> BobDole: Paste to http://paste.ubuntu.org
[02:44] <Reikoku> umm
[02:44] <Reikoku> http://www.paste2.org
[02:44] <cryptodira> dr_willis, Reikoku,  had the mouse wrap in OS/2 and again in os X would be nice to have it under ubuntu.... any suggestions?
[02:44] <Pyraine> BobDole: Don't worry, I don't need to see the results
[02:44] <Reikoku> I can't remember Ubuntu's pastebin
[02:44] <Pyraine> ubuntu.paste.com or ubuntu.paste.org isn't it?
[02:45] <Reikoku> It might be paste.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <Reikoku> I always use paste2.org
[02:45] <BobDole> alright Pyraine
[02:45] <BobDole> Brb rebooting
[02:45] <Pyraine> good luck!
[02:46] <Pyraine> Has anybody ever uninstalled and reinstalled Gwibber?
[02:48] <dr_willis> Pyraine:  you having some actual isue when trying that? or just curious?
[02:48] <Pyraine> dr_willis: yeah it wasn't authorising my accounts, and now I've lost the indicator
[02:48] <Pyraine> dr_willis: well it was saying authorised but wasn't adding them to the column
[02:49] <Derpadong> I have a question. Whats a good audio application to mess with such as layout?
[02:49] <wpoei> Derpadong abcde
[02:49] <aetas> hey guys, running 11.04 under ubuntu classic...can anyone tell me how to revert those annoying little mini bar scrollbars that you have to hover over to fully see?
[02:50] <Derpadong> abcde?
[02:50] <firman> hi
[02:50] <al_nz1> any sfdisk experts here?
[02:50] <BobDole> Pyraine, it works thanks a lot man!
[02:51] <ministerdude> They need to make a law. If you can't write an article. Don't! I can't figure out this virtualbox crap at all
[02:51] <dr_willis> aetas:  i know the webupd8 blog site has a 11.04 tweaks artical thet give commands to remove the feature.
[02:51] <Pyraine> BobDole: No problem, I thought that would be the issue, ALSA is pretty terrible at identifying HDA-intel models unless you specifically tell it
[02:51] <firman> it works.....i'am happy too
[02:51] <dr_willis> virtualbox has a manual also at its homepage. ;)
[02:51] <aetas> dr_willis, things to tweak after 11.04 install?
[02:52] <dr_willis> aetas:  yep. i may have it  marked here    delicious.com/dr_willis
[02:52] <ministerdude> Anyone know how to set up virtual box?
[02:52] <Pyraine> ministerdude: what do you mean?
[02:53] <dr_willis> install it? or istall a guest os?
[02:53] <aetas> dr_willis, do you use the new look?  the menu system drove me nuts so I reverted but I dont wanna get pushed back behind the times since I know they have added features
[02:53] <Derpadong> anyone know of a good audio application that allows layout tweaks?
[02:53] <spankbot> status with this?Kernel headers not found VMWare
[02:53] <dr_willis> aetas:  both features are removeable
[02:53] <spankbot> Kernel headers not found VMWare
[02:53] <ministerdude> I have the program. Now what?
[02:54] <aetas> dr_willis, will it go back to the normal menu system like the equivalent start menu from classic?
[02:54] <Pyraine> Derpadong: what do you mean by audio application? One that you listen to music with? or one where you edit music? If you're trying to edit music, give Ardour 2 a go
[02:54] <Derpadong> listen to.
[02:54] <firman> anyone know why my sound lmms make no sound?
[02:54] <dr_willis> aetas:  you can add a classic menu to unity panel, in 2 ways at least
[02:54] <Pyraine> Derpadong: : try amarok or rhythmbox?
[02:55] <Derpadong> pyraine, something to listen to
[02:55] <dr_willis> aetas:  the global menu is disabableable..
[02:55] <Derpadong> Using Rhythmbox but dont like what it cant do
[02:55] <aetas> dr_willis, are there features that are unity-only that I will likely miss do you think?
[02:55] <Derpadong> I want the ability to move things around on the application
[02:56] <dr_willis> aetas:  i dont use 1/2 the new stuff in unity. ;)
[02:56] <aetas> dr_willis, I wasnt sure if any of this appindicator stuff is new or if they added any widget features or anything
[02:56] <Pyraine> Derpadong: have you tried amarok?
[02:57] <Pyraine> Derpadong: or you could try running foobar under WINE
[02:57] <Pyraine> Derpadong: apparently it works well
[02:57] <dr_willis> the indicator appletstuff has beeen getting phased in for some time. only now they have tried to cut out the old systray type apps.
[02:57] <Derpadong> dont feel like using wine
[02:58] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com has a list of new indicator applets
[02:58] <aetas> I may play with it tomorrow then to see if its worth looking at.  Unity freaked me the hell out
[02:58] <Pyraine> dr_willis: does it mention how to reinstall them if you lost them? :o
[02:59] <Pyraine> Derpadong: if Amarok isn't good, try Deadbeef
[02:59] <dr_willis> reset settings back to defaults perhaps Pyraine . i dont use gwibber at all. ;)
[02:59] <spankbot> sweet MF
[02:59] <spankbot> sweetness
[02:59] <spankbot> fucking solved
[02:59] <Pyraine> dr_willis: how to reset settings? I usually reformat if something messes up, but I've done far too much customisation this time.
[03:00] <spankbot> had to  install kernel-devel kernel-headers gcc mkinitrd
[03:00] <dr_willis> webupd8 blog site or my delicious.com/dr_willis  has links  for that Pyraine
[03:00] <dr_willis> reformating to reset a users settings.. is.. well. so ms-thinking ;)
[03:01] <nate114578> hello, i need to create a quick terminal script to backup all of the most recent items in the /home directory... can anyone help me with that?
[03:02] <ministerdude> no clue?
[03:02] <aetas> nate114578, not really the place to ask but Ill give you some hints: find with the newer than parameters and then -exec cp
[03:03] <nate114578> thanks aetas! where would I go to ask?
[03:03] <wildbat> !rsync | nate114578
[03:03] <qin> nate114578: find ~ -atime <your time here> -exec cp {} /somewhere/ /; (do not preserve directory tree), rsync may do it better.)
[03:03] <qin> *\;
[03:04] <aetas> atime is accessed time which he probably doesnt want
[03:04] <aetas> probably needs mtime
[03:04] <nate114578> thanks folks! this was extremely helpful!
[03:04] <davf> anyone know where I can get some help with hostapd?
[03:04] <dr_willis> !info hostapd
[03:04] <qin> aetas: Right, going for coffee, before will do damage.
[03:05] <davf> Looking for an IRC - dr_willis
[03:05] <joint> did you hear the news? Microsoft just bought ubuntu
[03:05] <qin> !ot > joint
[03:05] <mcurran> why on earth would /lib and /lib32 not be included in .bashrc by default
[03:06] <Pyraine> dr_willis: no dice, damnit I had high hopes for that :(
[03:06] <dr_willis> mcurran:  included in what?
[03:06] <mcurran> LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[03:10] <seclm193> I need some help!!!
[03:10] <davf> I can't get some of my windows 7 laptops to auth with hostapd.
[03:10] <wildbat> !help | seclm193
[03:10] <neutrin0> excuse me if this was asked previously but is there a photocopy utility that works on ubuntu 11.04?
[03:10] <ministerdude> Virtualbox. how to I now instal xp to it?
[03:11] <Reikoku> ministerdude: Open it, make new virtualbox, mount XP CD, go
[03:11] <dr_willis> start vbox, follow wizard, point it yo xp cd/iso, boot the cd in vbox. install
[03:11] <ministerdude> Awesome. how do I make a new virtual box?
[03:11] <anth0ny> quick question: how do you disconnect from an SSH session?  (aside from closing terminal)
[03:12] <ministerdude> everything I tried failed
[03:12] <davf> anth0ny exit
[03:12] <dr_willis> it auto starts the wizard here..
[03:12] <anth0ny> davf, well I'll be... i feel silly, thanks!
[03:12] <wildbat> anth0ny: enter ~ .
[03:12] <dr_willis> make new vm... or somthing like that.
[03:12] <davf> anth0ny - np ;)
[03:13] <ministerdude> sorry if I seem a-hole'ish. this sudo stuff is getting old fast for me
[03:13] <anth0ny> wildbat, that doesn't work for me
[03:13] <Pyraine> dr_willis: good news, I fixed it, I needed to reinstall the package indicator-me in synaptic, that didn't get reinstalled with gwibber
[03:13] <dr_willis> sudo stuff? other then to install vbox. i dont need sudo to use it.
[03:13] <Pyraine> dr_willis: bad news, it's to the right of the shutdown indicator haha, oh boy, it's going to be a long night
[03:14] <dr_willis> Pyraine:  log out/back in.. ;) yet?
[03:14] <Pyraine> dr_willis: not yet, lemme just give that a shot haha
[03:15] <Pyraine> dr_willis: perfect, that did it!
[03:15] <starian> hello... newbie here need help to install ubuntu... can i write here
[03:16] <Pyraine> starian: it's a pretty simple distro to install, definitely the best choice for your first distro, very user friendly, but if you are scared I would recommend trying it on a virtual machine first
[03:17] <nit-wit> starian, this is the place. ;)
[03:17] <starian> pyraine: its ok for me to install ubuntu, but i got some issue
[03:17] <Pyraine> starian: I see, what's the problem?
[03:18] <starian> my previous system is windows 7, when im gonna install ubuntu, means to replace the win7, there just an option install in a whole driver
[03:19] <starian> but i have several driver i dont need to erase them
[03:19] <starian> can i???
[03:19] <Pyraine> starian: your windows drivers won't work in Linux, but Linux will detect your hardware and download compatible drivers for you
[03:19] <Pyraine> sorry
[03:20] <Pyraine> Ubuntu* not Linux
[03:20] <bindi> Pyraine: I believe he is talking about drives, as in HDDs
[03:20] <dr_willis> i think he means drive... hard drive.. not driver
[03:20] <starian> yes
[03:20] <Pyraine> dr_willis, bindi: ah, thanks for clarifying haha, wow I really didn't pick that up
[03:21] <dr_willis> dont get drive partions confused with hard drives eitehr.
[03:21] <al_nz1> what does '<< EOF' and the end of a command line in shell do? I know EOF = End of File - but in the context it seems off?
[03:21] <bindi> al_nz1: keep writing until "EOF" is given
[03:21] <al_nz1> the context btw is sfdisk /dev/sdb << EOF
[03:21] <Pyraine> starian: do you intend on keeping Windows installed alongside Ubuntu? Because there is a very easy option in the installer that will help you achieve this
[03:21] <al_nz1> then it has lines like 0,407,63,*
[03:22] <dr_willis> al_nz1:  ends a special bash read to end of file.. sytax
[03:22] <al_nz1> ok I get it not
[03:22] <al_nz1> ok i get it now
[03:23] <dr_willis> 'eof' in that instance is just a label. to match lower down in the script
[03:23] <al_nz1> so if you have a command like the one 3/4 of the way down the man page for sfdisk, how would you put the whole command on one comman dline in shell?
[03:23] <cypha> are Ubuntu developers proponents of carpal tunnel? Why the hell are windows so difficult to adjust in size with the mouse? And for God's sake, even the scrollbar is a bitch to approach for use
[03:23] <Pyraine> starian: or if you are going to wipe a whole drive and dedicate this one to Ubuntu, you will not need to wipe your others, they will be compatible
[03:23] <al_nz1> dr_willis: ie at http://linux.die.net/man/8/sfdisk
[03:23] <Pyraine> starian: although arguably you should wipe them, just to get rid of that nasty NTFS filesystem :P
[03:23] <dr_willis> cypha:  personally.. i just max most everything..
[03:24] <cypha> max?
[03:24] <starian> pyraine: ic...
[03:24] <cypha> dr_willis, where?
[03:24] <starian> thx pyraine.. thx guys
[03:24] <Pyraine> starian: no problem
[03:24] <bindi> I really just hate how... annoying ubuntu is to use tbh.. there's just something that feels so annoying and it makes me always boot back to windows
[03:25] <dr_willis> cypha:  via the max button
[03:25] <bindi> i've given every release since 6.04 a try :p they were nicer back in the day.. but a better solution from the competitor like windows 7 wasnt out then :)
[03:25] <cypha> dr_willis, oh, you mean the whole window?
[03:25] <al_nz1> dr_willis:  did yo uunderstand what I mean?
[03:25] <cypha> I thought you meant to adjust the width of the scrollbar
[03:25] <dr_willis> bindi:  i normally feel that way about windows...
[03:25] <Pyraine> Hey I have a question.. is there a room on this server for Ubuntu / GNU/Linux related chat or anything.. is that what Ubuntu-desktop is or is that another tech support?
[03:26] <dr_willis> cypha:  you can disable that fancy scrollbar thang
[03:27] <dr_willis> webupd8 blog site or my delicious.com/dr_willis  has links  for that
[03:27] <cypha> dr_willis, for realz? where?? I've been clicking everything
[03:28] <dr_willis> you remove a package or set some var. for a per app disablig
[03:28] <greyfiend> Hey I'm using D7 with taxonomy access control and am finding that I have to rebuild the permissions after editing nodes or else they give an access denied error, are other people finding this?
[03:28] <dr_willis> its not just a checkbox in the settings
[03:28] <mahir256> Pyraine: generally, if it's about ubuntu, it goes here. however you can probably ask your question in a more specific channel than this one on freenode
[03:30] <Pyraine> mahir256: i was wondering if there was a room that wasn't for tech support but still for ubuntu or gnu/linux general discussion, or even just computing
[03:30] <th0r> Pyraine: there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:31] <Pyraine> th0r: thanks!
[03:31] <symptom> was there a sig replaced for extras.ubuntu.com/maveric/release in the past few weeks?
[03:31] <symptom> if so does anyone know where i can find the correct sig?
[03:32] <mabrowning> On 11.04, swapping Caps and Ctrl doesn't work for me
[03:32] <mabrowning> xev shows "XKLAVIER_STATE" when pressing the physical Caps Lock key
[03:32] <mabrowning> but pressing Ctrl does trigger the CapsLock keycode (and functionality)
[03:33] <mabrowning> suggestions?
[03:34] <Tech-1> is TermKit secure enough for ubuntu ??
[03:36] <mabrowning> my mistake; xev shows a PropertyNotify event, but no KeyPress event for Caps Lock physical
[03:37] <mabrowning> again, my mistake... its actually toggling keycode 66, Mode_switch
[03:38] <mabrowning> I did have two layouts...
[03:42] <mabrowning> ok, well it looks like something stupid I did sometime in the past, because Caps Lock doesn't work without any modifiers
[03:42] <mabrowning> and still spits out Mode Sitch
[03:42] <blade> anyone know how to update the block list in transmission
[03:44] <bluenovember> what is a good software to rip my music to my computer?
[03:44] <mabrowning> ok, found it... >_< ~/.Xmodmap had all kinds of stupid stuff in it from what must have been a long time ago's failed experiment
[03:44] <Edisto> what is the deal when i keep shutting down my laptop where it doesn't shut down it just keeps looping saying the following apps will be quit in 3 seconds but it never does
[03:45] <Pyraine> I'm really struggling to decide on which IDE to use as a WebDev
[03:45] <Pyraine> I THINK I have it narrowed down to Komodo Edit 6 or NetBeans PHP as the best two
[03:45] <blade> bluenovember, audio cd extractor would be a good one to start with
[03:46] <bluenovember> cool, know the apt package name
[03:46] <bluenovember> ?
[03:46] <pooltable> help installed or uograde java?
[03:46] <bluenovember> er I can search
[03:46] <bluenovember> duh
[03:46] <blade> bluenovember, lol yea that works too lol
[03:46]  * bluenovember slaps forehead
[03:47] <L1nuxRules> apt-cache search face-palm
[03:48] <blade> bluenovember, ripoff is another that you may want to look at
[03:48] <seclm193> After the last update, my computer freezes at the login screen of gnome.  Anyone know how to fix this, or work around it.  I have tried the new kernel and the prevous kernel
[03:48] <dr_willis> !java
[03:48] <dimas_> bluenovember you can find some music to download with bashee as they no more good stuff you looking for as  they were available before
[03:48] <L1nuxRules> seclm193 try recovery mode
[03:49] <idlemind324> i have several macvlan interfaces configured and i am wondering why i cannot get ssh (server) to listen/bind to the virtual interfaces
[03:49] <bluenovember> dimas_, not looking to download
[03:49] <seclm193> L1nuxRules, I can boot to prompt, but when I run startx it does the same thing.
[03:50] <josephprince2> does anyone know how to install "easy_install" on Android?
[03:50] <dimas_> bluenovember i know what yo mean....you can try with vlc
[03:50] <seclm193> L1nuxRules, I mean command line instead of prompt
[03:50] <TBotNik> All: have a script for chroot that is not working right.  Anyone game?  PB with script and errors at: http://pastebin.com/QxFWRCzu
[03:50] <L1nuxRules> seclm ok going into my inexperience with gui here but is there anything in the x11 logs
[03:50] <blade> bluenovember, depending on how you rip and what your are riping entagged and ez tag are programs you may want to look at also
[03:50] <L1nuxRules> or /var/log/messages
[03:50] <seclm193> L1nuxRules, I'm not sure how to check the x11 logs
[03:51] <brandon_> Hello all, I would like to be pointed into the right direction on learning Linux and getting used to it all. Can someone point me in the right direction for information to learn from please?
[03:51] <L1nuxRules> seclm Im experienced with servers and old skool linux (bash) so dont know much about the workings dont even know where the x11 logs are sorry
[03:51] <idlemind324> also how do i make macvlan interfaces load at boot?
[03:52] <blade> linuxrules your right it's in the var/log....
[03:53] <seclm193> L1nuxRules, The problem seems to be when the User login screen loads
[03:53] <blade> seclm193, what is it doing
[03:54] <wildbat>  !manual>brandon_
[03:54] <seclm193> blade, when the login screen appears, the computer just locks up and will not do anything.  I can't even move the mouse
[03:55] <blade> seclm193, have you tried to boot up in another mode... recovery mode or anything
[03:55] <mlt-> anyone is good at deciphering mbr? actually ebr. I'm having difficulties interpreting what do I see as I'm trying to pin point https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/571038 which is probably related to udev and somehow wrecked partitioning that still works but brakes some other things. Anyone has a link at good documentation on MBR/EBR and partitioning structure?
[03:55] <blade> seclm193, did you install or do anything at all to your graphics drivers before this problem started
[03:56] <L1nuxRules> idlemind324 as long as you have chkconfig installed then chkconfig service on
[03:56] <TBotNik> Repeating: All: have a script for chroot that is not working right.  Anyone game?  PB with script and errors at: http://pastebin.com/QxFWRCzu
[03:56] <seclm193> blade, i can boot to the command line just fine, but when I try to run startx it does the same thing.
[03:56] <idlemind324> Thanks L1nuxRules but i know ssh is starting
[03:56] <idlemind324> ps aux | grep 'ssh' =)
[03:57] <blade> seclm193, did you install or un install any thing to do with your graphics
[03:57] <L1nuxRules> idlemind324 ? I was telling you how you can set a service to start
[03:57] <L1nuxRules> not ssh
[03:57] <seclm193> installed the driver that it showed, and updated the system
[03:58] <idlemind324> LinuxRules you mean to get the macvlan's to auto load? i think i found the way to enter those in /etc/networking/interfaces
[03:58] <blade> seclm193, do you know if it backed your xorg.conf file
[03:59] <seclm193> blade, i have no idea.
[03:59] <blade> seclm193, can you work on that computer while we talk here
[03:59] <balgarath> how to change the default irc client launched when clicking irc:// links?
[03:59] <L1nuxRules> macvlan is that something to handle virtualization?
[04:00] <seclm193> blade, unfortunately this is the computer.  I'm dual booting with windows 7 and had to login to windows 7 to chat
[04:00] <mlt-> any1? For some reason while I have a type marker 0x0f for extended partition in MBR, I see 0x05 partition type in EBR and no link to next logical partition :(
[04:01] <seclm193> blade, is there a way to role back the update?
[04:01] <blade> seclm193, not that i know of... not like a rool back like on win 7 or such... but.....
[04:02] <blade> seclm193, what we can do is check to see if your xorg.conf backed up before it restarted...
[04:02] <seclm193> blade, if it makes any difference, my processor is an AMD C-70
[04:02] <blade> seclm193, what vid card is it
[04:02] <seclm193> blade, AMD Radeon HD 6250
[04:03] <ldlework> What is Ubuntu's 11.04's default window manager?
[04:03] <KM0201> ldlework: default, is Unity
[04:03] <seclm193> blade, you think it may be a program in the application startup list that could cause the hang?
[04:04] <ldlework> KM0201, is that literally what the program is called that provides window management?
[04:04] <blade> seclm193, you will need to log into your command line... and type cd /etc/X11    then check dir and see if your xorg.conf is backed up... if it is i can tell you the command lines to get it back to how it was before the update
[04:04] <L1nuxRules> ubuntu > tablet
[04:04] <KM0201> ldlework: now that im not sure of, just know thats the default desktop
[04:05] <seclm193> blade, you think that maybe the problem?
[04:05] <blade> seclm193, it is more likely your video card drivers if you had done an update just before that problem started
[04:05] <mlt-> ldlework: Unity is a shell, window manager is Compiz
[04:05] <seclm193> blade, what it I can get into safe mode?  will that make a difference?
[04:05] <ldlework> mlt-, thanks
[04:05] <L1nuxRules> idlework x11 is what handles window management
[04:06] <blade> seclm193, yes you would be able to change your xorg.conf .... if that is the problem
[04:06] <seclm193> blade, i'm going to try to restart in safe gui mode and hopefully be right back
[04:07] <blade> seclm193, ok
[04:07] <Phalstaff> How do I change the font in the gnome panel?
[04:07] <fox___> ping
[04:07] <mcurran> right click "Edit Menus"
[04:08] <linux_is_my_hero> why doesn't my wifi signal strength show up in my notifier applet on my top bar?
[04:12] <seclm193> blade, I just booted into failsafe graphic mode with no problems.
[04:12] <blade> seclm193, then i would say we should check your xorg.conf file to see if it was backed up
[04:12] <seclm193> what was the commands again?
[04:13] <L1nuxRules> are xorg.conf needed these days shouldnt he just > it
[04:13] <blade> open /etc/X11
[04:13] <L1nuxRules> ?
[04:13] <blade> seclm193, just open the folder for now
[04:13] <blade> seclm193, terminal will come later if that's the problem
[04:14] <seclm193> got it open in the terminal
[04:14] <seclm193> blade, i'm a newbie, but have a little bit of knowledge
[04:14] <seclm193> blade, what file are we looking for?
[04:14] <blade> seclm193, ok if your in terminal then do dir and see if you have a back up of xorg.conf
[04:15] <linux_is_my_hero> why doesnt my wifi signal strength show up on my top bar like it used to?
[04:15] <blade> seclm193, should say xorg.conf.fglrx-0 or something like that
[04:15] <Adrii> Hey!
[04:15] <seclm193> blade, all I have is a xorg.conf and xorg.conf.failsafe
[04:16] <seclm193> cd Xreset
[04:16] <blade> seclm193, ok your failsafe is your backup
[04:16] <seclm193> blade, ok, so what now
[04:16] <Adrii> Hey! What's your name?
[04:17] <blade> we need to remove your xorg.conf    then replace it with the backup
[04:17] <fox___> cp xorg.conf.bup xorg.conf ?
[04:17] <blade> seclm193, to remove the bad one do ....
[04:17] <Brian_H> I just installed 11.04 on my dell e6520, I can shutdown fine if I'm connected to the power cord when I boot, but if I boot on battery or switch to battery  when I go to shutdown kde hangs after closing all the apps; leaving just my mouse cursor
[04:17] <Brian_H> I tried disabling acpi at boot and that didn't fix it
[04:18] <fox___> Biran_H: Try sudo halt in a console
[04:18] <fox___> Brian_H*
[04:18] <blade> seclm193, did you do the cd /etc/X11
[04:18] <Brian_H> ok, and if that works? is there a good way to troubleshoot the issues?
[04:18] <seclm193> blade, i did, i'm in the directory in the terminal
[04:18] <Brian_H> I tried checking the /var/logs/* but didn't find anything, but perhaps Im not looking at the right files
[04:19] <blade> seclm193, ok good
[04:19] <blade> seclm193, now in terminal do ... sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:20] <L1nuxRules> Brian_H first thing if you have another desktop boot to that otherwise boot to /bin/bash
[04:20] <Brian_H> good call, I'll try not logging into kde and see if I can reboot/shutdown from a terminal
[04:20] <seclm193> blade, done
[04:21] <Brian_H> the odd thing is if I boot with power and never go to battery it works fine
[04:21] <blade> seclm193, then you need to rename the other file... sudo mv /xorg.conf.failsafe xorg.conf
[04:21] <Brian_H> but I'll try it regardless, brb
[04:21] <fox___> thats weid
[04:21] <fox___> weird
[04:21] <blade> seclm193, then do dir and make sure it has changed
[04:21] <Brian_H> yea that was my thought, I've verified it 5 times now :)
[04:21] <Brian_H> brb
[04:22] <seclm193> blade, ok done.  it's renamed
[04:22] <blade> seclm193, then you should be able to restart and be up and running again
[04:22] <seclm193> blade, going to restart and see what happens, brb hopefully
[04:22] <seclm193> exit
[04:23] <zorro_> #linuxjambi
[04:25] <seclm193> blade, it worked, but it's the graphics still in low graphic mode
[04:25] <faint545> hey guys, im in xubuntu4 and i have no sound.. not sure where to start looking...
[04:26] <x64> Faint, you check the "No sound" documentation?
[04:26] <faint545> this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[04:26] <ZgxLtxz> Ubuntu10.04LTS can install to U Disk?
[04:26] <blade> seclm193, yes that is because we removed the updated driver... you should be able to do the update again this time with better results ...
[04:26] <x64> Faint, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:27] <x64> ZG, what do you mean UDisk?
[04:27] <bindi> anyone know of a download accelerator that can use multiple nics?
[04:27] <ZgxLtxz>  Ubuntu10.04LTS can install to Flash Disk?
[04:27] <seclm193> blade, how do i go about updating the driver?  remove it under restricted drivers, restart, then reinstall?
[04:27] <x64> ZG, Yes.
[04:27] <ZgxLtxz> Thank you,x64
[04:27] <x64> No problem, ZG. If you need the tool let me know.
[04:28] <blade> seclm193, you will need to reinstall but next time run ....  sudo aticonfig --initial     in terminal that will set up the drivers better and give you a backup in case you need to restore them again
[04:29] <seclm193> blade, ok, i'm uninstalling the restricted driver now.  Do i need to restart after?
[04:29] <blade> seclm193, i am not sure... it will tell you if that is the case
[04:30] <seclm193> blade, is there a way to install the driver in command line so i can see what it's doing?  doing it through the gui doesn't give you any informaton
[04:31] <blade> seclm193, just remember after they are installed DO NOT RESTART until after you run the aticonfig --initial
[04:31] <blade> seclm193,  aticonfig will set up your xorg.conf file for you
[04:31] <dougb> is there anything similar to gedit that lets me copy/rename files from the file browser? gedit doesn't allow this and they claim they don't plan on supporting the feature
[04:32] <blade> seclm193, i do not know the terminal command to install the ati drivers
[04:32] <seclm193> blade, ok, i'm trying to do it know
[04:33] <blade> dougb try medit
[04:34] <faint545> x64, i followed all the directions on that page you sent me.. nothing has worked so far.
[04:35] <seclm193> blade, this is what i'm getting
[04:35] <seclm193> blade, Found fglrx primary device section
[04:35] <seclm193> Fail to link to fglrx-libglx.so, please check whether driver is installed correctly
[04:36] <blade> seclm193,  you will need to un install it
[04:36] <blade> seclm193, that is why you had problems it was not installed right the first time
[04:36] <seclm193> blade, i did remove the driver, then reactivated the driver.  i guess i need a reboot inbetween?
[04:37] <josephprince2> anyoine knows how to install "easy_install" on android????
[04:37] <blade> seclm193, i am not sure of the steps it takes to purge it but that is what you will want to do....
[04:37] <seclm193> i'm not sure how to purge the driver
[04:37] <dougb> blade: medit is almost there, except it doesn't show any of my favorites, and i'm using the nautilus ftp manager to connect to my sites...
[04:38] <blade> dougb other than medit all i can think of is things like nano edit...
[04:39] <blade> dougb let me look
[04:39] <dougb> yeah, I guess I could always use vim/nano
[04:39] <eHAPPY> If I want to run a torrent server by of configuration what would be the best client for me?
[04:40] <eHAPPY> s/by/type
[04:40] <dougb> blade: its not a huge deal, just thought I'd ask.  I can always have a file browser open on another desktop to copy/paste files :)
[04:41] <blade> dougb i have a few different editors installed on here but i only use medit lol .... so i do not know what all of them do...
[04:42] <dougb> yea, I've heard kate is pretty good, but I'd have to download all of the qt dependancies which is ~250 MB's and I'm on a 3G connection lol
[04:43] <blade> dougb ouch
[04:43] <blade> dougb dont feel bad i'm on sat i-net
[04:43] <seclm193> blade, i tried this
[04:43] <seclm193> blade, sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[04:44] <dougb> i'm not complaining, it's technically 4G* from at&t, but i'm on an android phone and grandfathered into an unlimited data plan, so for browsing the internet, streaming music and editing websites it's perfect
[04:44] <seclm193> blade, and sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[04:44] <blade> eHAPPY, i use transmission ... it lets me schedule times for it to download
[04:44] <blade> seclm193,  did it work
[04:44] <eHAPPY> blade transmission i find is not nearly robust enough for my use :/
[04:44] <update> how do i boot a version of linux on a live cd on ubuntu???
[04:44] <blade> eHAPPY, then you may want to look at ktorrent
[04:45] <blade> eHAPPY, i have also heard good things about u torrent
[04:45] <Barami> Hello :)
[04:45] <dr_willis> utorrent linux port is 32bit only last i looked
[04:45] <update> how do i boot a version of linux on a live cd on ubuntu???
[04:46] <bindi> Anyone know of a download accelerator that uses multiple NICs?
[04:46] <dr_willis> update:  clarify what you mean
[04:46] <bindi> google isnt being useful atm
[04:46] <faint545> update, what do you mean exactly?
[04:46] <eHAPPY> blade utorrent isnt approved for any trackers :/
[04:47] <Barami> dr_willis, deluge is recommended for torrent.
[04:47] <blade> eHAPPY, k torrent is and so is vuze
[04:47] <update> im running ubuntu right now, and i want to try a different distro.  I have the cd in but it won't boot up and run??
[04:47] <sonja> ubuntu won't start in graphical mode. startx tells me "no screens found"
[04:48] <sonja> halp
[04:48] <dr_willis> update:  perhaps you burnt the cd wrong
[04:48] <eHAPPY> blade cool ill check out ktorrent :) what about rtorrent or deluge?
[04:48] <update> no i got it from a magazine
[04:48] <update> i have two and niether are working
[04:48] <faint545> update, reboot, and choose to boot from CD
[04:48] <blade> eHAPPY, i have never used rtorrent or deluge
[04:48] <eHAPPY> kk ty for the help
[04:49] <Barami> deluge is good tool for torrent.
[04:49] <dr_willis> pc not set toboot cd in bios.. perhaps. its not ubuntu thats keepig the pc from booting a cd
[04:49] <blade> eHAPPY, i really like k torrent but as i said i'm on sat inet so i have a down load limit and k torrent will not stop..... not as far as i can tell
[04:49] <Barami> it handling few hundred seed files with no lacks.
[04:49] <Barami> transmission is slow with many seed files.
[04:50] <bindi> I use transmissiond and web gui to handle it.
[04:50] <bindi> Barami: not really.. I have 345 active
[04:50] <blade> barami transmission is the only one that can have a schedule so i can set it to not download for part of the day....
[04:50] <Barami> Hm. bindi In my com, transmission has lacked with 50 seed files. :(
[04:51] <blade> Barami, in different computers transmission will cause a memory leak
[04:51] <blade> Barami, you may just be one of the lucky ones
[04:51] <dr_willis> other torrent clients have scheduling. i think most do these days
[04:52] <sonja> ubuntu won't start in graphical mode. startx tells me "no screens found" . halp
[04:52] <Barami> Also, deluge has more flexible options.
[04:53] <asher^> hello. i was wondering if someone could tell me how to add an ip range like 123.456.*.* to ufw. what syntax to use for the ip?
[04:53] <blade> transmission is the only one that i have found that i can set the download and upload to 0 for most of the day and then when i am in free time i can let it run
[04:53] <sonja> asher, #networknig might know if not here
[04:53] <Barami> How to change the font of QT programs? qtconfig don't save settings and can't effect to programs.
[04:54] <asher^> thanks sonja
[04:54] <rww> asher^: 123.456.0.0/16
[04:54] <asher^> thanks rww
[04:54] <asher^> <3
[04:59] <seclm193> blade, now i have a new problem
[04:59] <ldlework> In 11.04, my windows key opens up the gnome menu. xev doesn't even report keystrokes for it? What is capturing the key?
[05:00] <blade> seclm193, what would that be
[05:00] <seclm193> blade, now after installing the driver, it tells me it cannot find ati-config
[05:00] <blade> seclm193,  that was a pop up message
[05:00] <josephprince2> any takers on easy_install on android?
[05:00] <blade> seclm193, or did you try to do something
[05:01] <Barami> How to change font of QT programs?
[05:01] <seclm193> blade, nevermind, it found it, but it still says Fail to link to fglrx-libglx.so, please check whether driver is installed correctly
[05:02] <Barami> Not kde base programs.
[05:02] <Barami> Smplayer, virtualbox, etc...
[05:02] <blade> seclm193,  are you sure you have the libglx.so installed
[05:03] <seclm193> blade, so i need to sudo apt-get install libglx.so?
[05:03] <Barami> qtconfig can't affect those.
[05:03] <blade> seclm193, well i would open your package manager and search for it...
[05:06] <blade> seclm193,  did you find it
[05:07] <seclm193> blade, not yet
[05:07] <blade> seclm193, go to system admin.. synaptic package manager... or what ever package manager you use
[05:08] <blade> seclm193, then just do a search for that lib file
[05:08] <seclm193> blade, i did, it didn't find it
[05:08] <blade> seclm193, what was the name of the file again
[05:09] <seclm193> blade, nevermind, it found it, but it still says Fail to link to fglrx-libglx.so, please check whether driver is installed correctly
[05:09] <seclm193> blade, theres the message again
[05:10] <blade> seclm193, you found and installed the file it was missing tho
[05:10] <blade> right
[05:10] <seclm193> blade, didn't find the file, that was the message i get when i run sudo ati-config --initial
[05:10] <josephprince2> sigh. why im ignored
[05:10] <josephprince2> :(
[05:11] <blade> seclm193, no no
[05:11] <blade> seclm193,  sudo aticonfig --initial    just as i have it
[05:11] <rww> josephprince2: Probably because this is #ubuntu, not #android.
[05:11] <blade> seclm193,  you can also check the commands with aticonfig -h
[05:12] <seclm193> blade, tried just like you have it, no dice
[05:12] <blade> seclm193, what did it say this time
[05:12] <blade> seclm193,  did you try aticonfig -h    or aticonfig --help
[05:13] <seclm193> blade, same thing, what am i looking for in aticonfig -h
[05:13] <seclm193> ?
[05:13] <blade> seclm193, just lets you see the different commands
[05:14] <TBotNik> All: who are the scripting and networking gurus tonight?
[05:14] <blade> seclm193, try to open your update manager and see if that has any updates for ati
[05:14] <ldlework> Would someone please help me figure out what captures the windows key in 11.04 to open the unity/gnome menu?
[05:14] <seclm193> blade, checking now
[05:15] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, hey, so why can't you specify the fs?
[05:16] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Something crazy about UUIDs and it already mounting, multiple passes of the script to get chroot right, you know.
[05:16] <seclm193> blade, it had some X11 updates.  updating now
[05:17] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Let me give you all the PB and write up links
[05:17] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, well I didn't see a UUID in that script
[05:17] <molossus> i need help with my butuntu,  is there a power saving program or something like that in ubuntu ? in fedora a while back  i was able to use "tuned" which lets you select a profile for laptop or desktop
[05:17] <blade> seclm193, that may do it... on the lower left of that window you should see a tab that can give you more details about each update as you click on it
[05:18] <blade> so i'm looking... an app based off ubuntu ... made for doing a dual boot on the ipod touch....
[05:19] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Problem & status at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11089497#post11089497;  Configs at: http://pastebin.com/yC9fcguh; Restart/Reboot errors at: http://pastebin.com/yqWk3ucd; Script and errors at: http://pastebin.com/yqWk3ucd and finally the dir view from /dev at: http://pastebin.com/YwNYv4U6
[05:19] <ldlework> Would someone please help me figure out what captures the windows key in 11.04 to open the unity/gnome menu?
[05:21] <blade> rww, i want to play... let me have ops for a few lol
[05:21] <blade> lol
[05:22] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Was trying to run the cmd "ls /dev/sda* -al" to see the contents of the last PB, but kept erroring so had to create that in file by hand from the gnome Places GUI.
[05:22] <molossus> what is " -o rww" ?
[05:22] <blade> rww, no you will have to give all the kids some candy.... or they will think i'm spoiled
[05:22] <rww> molossus: +o is a channel mode that gives a user operator access. -o is a channel mode that removes that access.
[05:23] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Tired of being here on liveCD.  Not making any progress on the network issue and just spending time.
[05:23] <molossus> rww , why is your name listed with  -o ?
[05:24] <TBotNik> BRB Coffee run!
[05:24] <seclm193> blade, what if I just goto the ATI website and download the installer they have?
[05:24] <rww> molossus: I had ChanServ give me ops to check on some stuff I can't see otherwise, then removed it from myself.
[05:24] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, so if the networking issue was gone, you wouldn't need the oddball mount script to work?
[05:25] <blade> seclm193, if you can get it to work... i was unable to make it work... but that is mostly to do with my lack of experience
[05:25] <molossus> rww,  is ChanServ like a bot program that checks everything we say?
[05:25] <molossus> or a admin user
[05:26] <blade> admin user
[05:26] <droidman101> molossus: its an admin bot of the whole freenode
[05:26] <blade> lets you give the bot bang commands that normal users cant
[05:26] <rww> molossus: ChanServ is a bot maintained by the IRC network we're on that (amongst other things) keeps track of which users have operator access on a channel and ops them on request.
[05:28] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Bak: Yup you got that right, but purge of NM kill all my config on wlan0, which is my INET, so have to use the liveCD to get out, communicate and fix this.
[05:29] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, okay, so do you run the DHCP server on that machine?
[05:29] <molossus> are the users that have an "@" prefix admins too, how do i know who is an admin
[05:30] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, does /etc/init.d/dhcpcd exist?
[05:30] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Problem is I did this config 5-8 years ago and went seamless, but was full blown server with all the DHCP stuff already in and running and the WiFi card was added later, so went smoothly.  This machine is DT/server combo and WiFi went in with build, now trying to add LAN on eth0 and just not working right.
[05:30] <rww> molossus: users who are currently opped have an @ prefix. The list of users with ChanServ op access can be viewed with /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[05:30] <blade> molossus just be nice to everyone and you dont have to worry about who is admin lol
[05:31] <rww> (specifically, everyone with +o in that list)
[05:31] <molossus> oh ok
[05:31] <TBotNik> This machine is older than hills with slow CPU and this wlan0 connect covers 2 miles, so not fast.
[05:32] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, I'm actually only understanding about 20% of what you say, but let's assume you want connectivity and have a home router
[05:32] <flametai1> Anyone know of any software that would like allow you to emulate another monitor for a windows computer on to Linux? For example: I have a windows 7 tablet to my left, Linux desktop to my right, I want to make my Linuxbox emulate a monitor inside of it and have my windows 7 tablets desktop extend onto it so it's just a window on my linux box, anything out there like that?
[05:32] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: No this box uses dhcp3, so is /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server
[05:32] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, can you copy the network manager config and the dhcpcd config from the live cd?
[05:32] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: No router, way wrong scenario
[05:33] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, I would probably disable that for this troubleshooting
[05:34] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: on the copy, let me look.  Already in chroot on the terminal, so looking around.
[05:34] <\DSAFEW\> flametai1, I believe the kind of software you want is "remote desktop" or "VNC"
[05:35] <Unknown_Monkey> hello
[05:35] <molossus> rww, one last question, how do you become admins in #ubuntu or other rooms?
[05:36] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: On the NM config, NM is not working. Did a purge on it, then when lost wlan0 tried a chroot install from the liveCD, which broke synaptic, so trying to fix synaptic, with right chroot and NM re-install.  When I away to test HDD boot right now, no connection, so back to liveCD to make fixes, but can not get chroot right, so can not make the fixes needed.
[05:36] <\DSAFEW\> molossus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam?action=show&redirect=IrcTeam
[05:36] <rww> molossus: for #ubuntu, we generally look for people who've helped out in #ubuntu as users for a long time and have the right sort of attitude for opping. In general, "make a new room or have the room creator give you ops".
[05:37] <rww> (see also /msg ubottu !canibeanop)
[05:37] <seclm193> blade, installing driver from website now
[05:37] <blade> seclm193,  is that the one with the updated ccc also
[05:37] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Am I giving you TMI or are you following?
[05:38] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, not enough
[05:38] <blade> seclm193,  if not that will be ok just need to updated that too at some point
[05:38] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, I get you have to repair stuff, but can you not access the old system now?
[05:38] <seclm193>  blade, not sure, it says i need to remove old fglrx driver first
[05:38] <blade> rww, just tell him to watch me... and learn what not to do lol
[05:38] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: When you read the problem on the forum, did you understand the importance of the wlan0 config?
[05:38] <bigeye> Where is usb's trash folder? I can't find it.
[05:38] <bryan> hi everybody
[05:39] <blade> seclm193, yes any time you update ati drivers you need to purge the old drivers first
[05:39] <blade> bigeye, when you unmount it should prompt you to empty the trash
[05:40] <bigeye> blade: oh, thanks.
[05:40] <Unknown_Monkey> hello
[05:40] <blade> bigeye, and if not you can always reformat the drive ... even my 8 gig only takes a few min
[05:40] <Unknown_Monkey> whois blade
[05:40] <seclm193> blade, i tried sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx* it shows nothing there
[05:40] <blade> Unknown_Monkey, .... this guy
[05:40] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: See it but cannot make chroot link and bind right /dev resources such as /sys /tmp /proc ..etc so chroot does not bind and updates from synaptic on liveCD just corrupt things, that is why synaptic is disabled on the HDD boot right now.
[05:41] <blade> seclm193, it should not be .... you did that just a bit ago remember
[05:41] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Am I making sense?
[05:41] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, yeah, okay that's fine
[05:41] <Unknown_Monkey> exit
[05:41] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, but you can manually edit the configs to test them
[05:42] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: So instead of just a networking problem I now have the additional problem with synaptic that I got to fix.
[05:43] <blade> seclm193, i am going to guess with that card you are running that you are on a x64 right
[05:43] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, I still don't know what interface does what, or what devices/servers your network has
[05:43] <seclm193> yes
[05:43] <blade> seclm193, and you are sure you are after the right drivers then yes
[05:43] <seclm193> blade, yes
[05:44] <blade> seclm193, k
[05:45] <DBordello> how do I determine the version of fglrx installed?
[05:45] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Network had wlan0 (Internet and networking connect to main warehouse) eth0 (local LAN/network for 3 servers, my win laptop I'm testing and new WIFI LinkSys router for letting laptop visitors to this remote warehouse connect to the internet)
[05:45] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Still confused?
[05:46] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: So the importance of wlan0 is it is the only communication connection for this entire network.
[05:47] <blade> DBordello,  in terminal type fglrxinfo
[05:47] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, a bit, so let's label these things with letters, let's call your computer/router computer A
[05:48] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: wlan0, runs on DLink WiFi card with super high gain antennas, point to point.
[05:48] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, and the warehouse 2 network connects to computer A via a switch?
[05:49] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, and warehouse 1 miles away is connected between computer A and computer B
[05:49] <\DSAFEW\> so computer B is also the internet gateway for the linksys wifi AP and other computers at warehouse 2?
[05:50] <seclm193> blade, could not get it to work, but trying it with the --force command now
[05:50] <blade> seclm193,  aticonfig --initial -f
[05:51] <ministerdude> Once I configure my VM. Can I instal windows programs to it?
[05:51] <seclm193> blade, will have to try that
[05:51] <blade> ministerdude, yes ... be sure you have enough ram to run it tho
[05:51] <ministerdude> It's just for itunes and syncing my iphone
[05:51] <seclm193> blade, the only other thing i know is to reinstall fresh and step through updates one by one
[05:52] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Main warehouse supplies signal/connect via WiFi to Computer A, via the wlan0 NIC (DLink card).  Servers B,C,D need to send data to Main warehouse but have no connect, so daily CDs being burnt instead.  Need Computer A to serve IPs (DHCP Server) to local LAN so files can be shared and or exchanged on LAN to main warehouse.  Additional WIFI router being added for convienence of Mgmt staff visiting that want INet connect for email etc
[05:52] <left4dead> http://www.irc.pl/
[05:52] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\:  Is that clear?
[05:52] <blade> ministerdude, you can use linux to sync you iphone... i have ipod touch and it works great
[05:52] <seclm193> blade, looks like it may have worked, restarting to find out, brb
[05:53] <blade> seclm193, i spent 3 days doing what your doing now to try to set up dual monitors and dual cards... it can be a pain but once it's done it looks great
[05:53] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: did i loose you?
[05:53] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, okay well you relabeled my B, but what does the other end of the wifi connection in warehouse 1 look like?
[05:53] <beanbrew> I've been trying to use byobu's F-keys functionality, but F1-F5 don't work in the virtual terminal
[05:55] <ministerdude> gtkpod? have it. but I want to sync/activate and get updates. and jailbreaking is easier in windows
[05:55] <blade> ministerdude, take a look at usbmudxd
[05:55] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, so at your location, is computer A connected to a switch for the LAN? and also, the new wifi AP for management is on the other network right?
[05:55] <seclm193> blade, worked perfectly.  hope it sticks though
[05:56] <blade> seclm193, good ... if it worked once it will work every time... it saves ... and has a back up that is auto...
[05:56] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\:  I do not remember. I has been there for over 2 years and we have been making these daily data trips for about 5 years.  I usually come here first, then go to main warehouse to finis the day.  Haven't gone to main for a couple of days, other admin has it and all is stable, so this is main problem point so almost been sleeping out here.
[05:56] <seclm193> blade, alsome
[05:56] <ministerdude> software center?
[05:56] <blade> ministerdude, did you know you can dual boot with linux on the iphone / ipod now
[05:57] <seclm193> blade, one more question, not sure if you know.  Is there a way to have KDE and Gnome on same distro
[05:57] <ministerdude> They have a linux for the iphone as an os?
[05:57] <blade> ministerdude, check synaptic package manager
[05:57] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, so on this machine, is it connected to a box via wires?
[05:57] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: This upgrade started when I opened my mouth and inserted my #12, so now having to eat it.
[05:58] <blade> seclm193, yes but i am not sure i can tell you what distro that is... i have gnome kde openbox xfce all on one distro
[05:58] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Local LAN side has 8 port hub
[05:58] <seclm193> blade, openbox?
[05:58] <ministerdude> k synaptic then what?
[05:59] <blade> it's had to explain .... it is nothing really... no gui at all
[05:59] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Stuck with this computer as can not take the others out of production and only this one has the DLink card.
[05:59] <blade> seclm193, i dont know the bash command so just check your pm
[06:00] <karex> Geany launches faster than Gedit (3 sec vs 6 sec), how it can be?
[06:00] <seclm193> blade, i found it, just need to install kubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <seclm193> blade, i thank you for your help
[06:00] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, and the new linksys is on the other network right? although that isn't what you're connected to
[06:00] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Also recently added WebMin on this box, so when I get LAN working I can admin the other 3 from this one box.  Better yet if Inet comes up will WebMin from main server room.
[06:01] <maahes> I'm having a weird problem. I have a volume on another disk mounted to /media/morespace its chowned by me, according to ls -l, but I can't write to the directory.
[06:01] <blade> seclm193, any time... i will help where i can... i'm a noob tho
[06:01] <maahes> doing sudo touch foo works though
[06:01] <seclm193> blade, we help each other to learn from each other.  that is the way we learn
[06:01] <ministerdude> Anyways. How do I instal programs to my vm?
[06:01] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: LinkSys is plugged into 8 port hub, but has to get it's INet through this box.  Joke you know!  HA HA LOL
[06:01] <blade> seclm193, that's what Ubuntu stands for...
[06:01] <ministerdude> I'll go easy this time
[06:02] <blade> seclm193, i looked it up lol
[06:02] <seclm193> blade, cool, didn't know that
[06:02] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Not the config, the connect, since all is broke.
[06:02] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, joke? okay I see, that's fine, I just wanted to narrow down the issue
[06:02] <seclm193> blade, can't wait for ubuntu to have Gnome 3, looks nice
[06:03] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: What would you do if this was your network nightmare?
[06:03] <blade> ministerdude, if i understand it correctly start vm and just install like you would in windows
[06:03] <blade> seclm193, i am still on 10 10 i was afraid of unity lol
[06:03] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, well, it seems like it's not much trouble, you just need internet from the wlan interface somehow
[06:04] <seclm193> blade, i
[06:05] <seclm193> blade, i'm actually on 11.04 running in Gnome Clasic
[06:05] <seclm193> lol
[06:05] <blade> seclm193, i dont want to be that close to unity lol
[06:05] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, are computers B,C,D on 10.42.43.*?
[06:05] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Yup that is constant need
[06:06] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, and are they configured via your local DHCPd?
[06:06] <seclm193> blade, i know what you mean.  I never have used KDE so i
[06:06] <seclm193> not sure if i like it
[06:06] <blade> seclm193,  in terminal do fglrxinfo
[06:06] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: No declared static IP for DHCP server is 192.168.3.x
[06:07] <blade> seclm193, kde is cool in it's own right... not sure i would ever go to it for long...
[06:07] <beanbrew> I've been trying to use byobu's F-keys functionality, but F1-F5 aren't working for the F keys.  I suspect this is because byobu wants [11~ or whatever instead of [[A, but I don't know what I can do about it.
[06:07] <seclm193> christopher@christopher-linux:~$ fglrxinfo
[06:07] <seclm193> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:07] <seclm193> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[06:07] <seclm193> OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 6200 series Graphics
[06:07] <seclm193> OpenGL version string: 4.1.10834 Compatibility Profile Context
[06:07] <FloodBot1> seclm193: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, but your eth0 IP is 10.43etc
[06:07] <maalac> hi, need help configuring pidgin on yahoo on HP network?
[06:07] <beanbrew> similarly, I have that problem in mutt, where it doesn't see my binds when I bind to f1-f4
[06:07] <seclm193> woops
[06:08] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, can you pastebin again? these might be old configs I'm looking at
[06:08] <seclm193> blade, you see my fglrxinfo?
[06:08] <blade> seclm193, yes ... next time paste that in a pm
[06:09] <seclm193> blade, yea i saw that
[06:09] <blade> seclm193, looks like it all went good for the install
[06:09] <blade> seclm193, dont feel bad the bots here know me by first name now lol
[06:09] <seclm193> blade, yea, graphics look a lot better now, and more responsive
[06:09] <seclm193> blade, they might get to know me by name also. lol
[06:10] <blade> seclm193, now you just need to set up compiz
[06:10] <blade> seclm193, the bots get on me once a day at least
[06:10] <seclm193> blade, ok? how?
[06:10] <blade> seclm193, read pm
[06:11] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\:  the /etc/network/interfaces settings of "auto wlan0" and "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" have to work for wlan0 to work right, but NM was messing those up.  The 10.x.x.x was coming from the cards when I had the "auto eth0" first in the /etc/network/interfaces, when I moved it down and grouped it with the rest of the eth0 settings the right 192.168.3.x settings came up.
[06:11] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Did not know the grouping was critical
[06:11] <beanbrew> if it helps at all, my $TERM is xterm-color
[06:12] <blade> seclm193, in your package manager search for compiz
[06:12] <blade> seclm193,  then we can spend a night in here doing the settings on that lol
[06:12] <FernandoTertiary> hola, am needing assistance pertaining the Package Manager. /lib/apt/lists/lock displays a blank file
[06:13] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, so what does 'ip route show' say?
[06:13] <wrektjet> hello community. i am in need of switching from a mouse to a trackball input device and wanted to know if anyone uses one that is nicely compatible with ubuntu
[06:13] <seclm193> blade, not sure about all night, lol
[06:14] <blade> seclm193, not tonight ... it's way past my bed time now lol
[06:14] <blade> seclm193, i'm too old to stay up this late
[06:14] <\DSAFEW\> wrektjet, all mice are compatible, I'd recommend a logitech
[06:15] <\DSAFEW\> they are comfy and have buttons
[06:15] <seclm193> blade, i have to get family pictures taken tomorrow
[06:16] <blade> seclm193, just get compiz and start looking around it... ubuntu forums have some great ideas also... it is just for cool desk top effects like desk top cube
[06:16] <wrektjet> no not a mouse. looking for a trackball. less wrist movement. wondering if anyone has had luck with any trackballs spercifically regarding programmable buttons
[06:16] <seclm193> blade, shouldn't be a problem now that my graphic driver is working now
[06:17] <\DSAFEW\> wrektjet, I know, I mean, don't worry about it and just get a comfortable logitech
[06:18] <blade> seclm193, you will like the desk top effects just get compiz and fusion with it
[06:19] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: What I'm thinking about, but will take a month to do, because that is how long to get any money for anything around here unless it is time/hours spent, which no one counts being part of overhead.  Anyway what I think I should do is order another IDE HD for this box. Install as Master, push current HD to slave, Take out the DLink Card Install full Ubunu 10.04 server, then add DT for gui support. setup the DHCP and LAN, then add the 
[06:19] <seclm193> blade, i'm installing as soon as KDE finishes
[06:20] <seclm193> blade, takes forever to install after it's downloaded
[06:20] <blade> seclm193,  k have some fun with it and get back with me if you run into any problems
[06:21] <seclm193> blade, i will
[06:21] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: What frustrates me the most is the #$%^$$@#@#$$# HOWTOs written by novices, that never test a $#@#^%$$ thing they write and therefore never have and %$#@#$% pain in trying to fix any of this @#%^$%#$# dang crap.  Sorry for the #%$#$@@'s I've just got to vent, so friggin tired of this crap.
[06:22] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, if you're spending money like that, why not get a wireless bridge/router? It would free this computer from odd routing duties
[06:23] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Already requested that and got rejected. Thanks!
[06:24] <drij> I just installed 11.04 and copied over my home directory from 10.10. the superkey shortcuts aren't working, I assume I have an old keybinding settings somewhere
[06:24] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, okay, well we make due, linux is a very flexible OS, so you can do this, but it will take a bit of man page reading and config file tweaking
[06:24] <drij> but I don't know how to find the old binding. does anyone have any idea how I might find out what's binding to and superceeding the superkey?
[06:25] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, so what does 'ip route show' say?
[06:26] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Regular router will not work, has to be a router approved by dd-wrt and none of the new one will work as you have 2 problems: 1. Will not function as actual AP (sue of wireless side), 2. has to be able to bridge in the wifi section.  That eliminates over 80% of the commerically available routers
[06:26] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\:  You talking about /etc/iptables?
[06:26] <cypha``> Please tell me how to prevent the scrollbars from disappearing?
[06:27] <fez> hi
[06:27] <TBotNik> cypha``: You got compiz running?
[06:27] <cypha``> TBotNik no
[06:27] <cypha``> I was trying to avoid that
[06:28] <cypha``> don't want anything fancy/heavy. Just want things to work right, like the scrollbars
[06:28] <uiuiui132> Hi guys. I am facing some problems installing samba on 11.04. Can anyone help?
[06:28] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, 'ip route show' as a command, or 'route'
[06:28] <cypha``> and it would be nice if resizing windows didn't require such exactness on the window border
[06:29] <TBotNik> cypha``: Check to see if it is config'd to run,  If it is and is erroring, thus needing manual start then fix that and you are good.  Whole borders will also dissappear without this also.
[06:29] <tricp> hi guys !!
[06:29] <uiuiui132> Hi guys. I am facing some problems installing samba on 11.04. Can anyone pls help?
[06:30] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Remember what I'm showing you is liveCD and wlan0 only:
[06:30] <TBotNik> 192.168.1.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.2  metric 2
[06:30] <TBotNik> 169.254.0.0/16 dev wlan0  scope link  metric 1000
[06:30] <TBotNik> default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0  proto static
[06:30] <fmauro> uiuiui132: what problems exactly?
[06:30] <cypha``> TBotNik, what is "it"?
[06:31] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: wlan0 has always been 192.168.1.1
[06:31] <kallisti> was installing lubuntu on a laptop that has a radeon card and during the installation it saw it was there however now its saying i dont have any proprietry divers installed
[06:31] <TBotNik> cypha``: Compiz
[06:31] <uiuiui132> dpkg -l | grep samba
[06:31] <cypha``> TBotNik, I don't have it installed
[06:31] <uiuiui132> states iHR for samba package
[06:32] <TBotNik> cypha``: The two main programs controlling the display are nautilaus and compiz
[06:32] <cypha``> TBotNik, so it comes installed by default?
[06:32] <Unknown_Monkey> hello
[06:32] <TBotNik> check on them both.  Depends on which version you are one.
[06:33] <cypha``> TBotNik, how do I get the settings utility?
[06:33] <cypha``> 11.04
[06:33] <cypha``> ubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <TBotNik> cypha``: Alt+F2 then let me find you cmd to enter.
[06:34] <cypha``> TBotNik, can't just use a terminal window?
[06:34] <uiuiui132> fmauro: any ideas?
[06:34] <ushills> hi, looking for some help with thunar on xfce 11.04, currently it takes around 15-20seconds from entering thunar in a terminal to the window appearing, could it be anything to do with ubuntu one.
[06:35] <centr0> im trying to install vpnc and the directions say to creata a conf file but the dir is inaccessible even when using sudo.  any ideas?
[06:35] <TBotNik> cypha``: Looking fo you now, hold on!
[06:35] <cypha``> gracias :)
[06:35] <fmauro> uiuiui132: you were trying to install samba directly throught dpkg or regularly through apt?
[06:35] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Still there?
[06:36] <uiuiui132> no interenet connection
[06:36] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, yep
[06:36] <uiuiui132> so with dpkg directly
[06:36] <uiuiui132> apt-cdrom add was giving some errors
[06:36] <uiuiui132> so i was left with manually installing each package
[06:36] <uiuiui132> i think i fucked up in some dependencies
[06:37] <uiuiui132> and now its in a totally fucked up state.
[06:37] <fmauro> uiuiui132: sounds about right. no possibility of an internet connection?
[06:37] <uiuiui132> there is. i have to lug it into another room.
[06:37] <TBotNik> cypha``: K Alt+F2 then "gconf-editor", think this will help
[06:37] <uiuiui132> if I do that, what commands to rectify the situation?
[06:38] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: So what is your feedback on my thoughts?
[06:38] <alexandru1012> hello
[06:38] <fmauro> uiuiui132: you could try and just do a regular package update, if that fails try a apt-get build-dep samba
[06:38] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, well it looks like it's not connecting to the wifi, but I don't have current config or logs
[06:39] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, so IDK, you just need to mess with it until it connects IMO
[06:39] <uiuiui132> ok. i shall try that.
[06:39] <uiuiui132> thanks.
[06:39] <TBotNik> cypha``: Also you can use the HOWTO at: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-tweak-ubuntu.html
[06:40] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: I posted the current HDD configs at: http://pastebin.com/yC9fcguh  Do you need the configs from the liveCD as well?
[06:41] <cypha``> thanks TBotNik
[06:41] <alexandru1012> i have a problem i'm trying to send a file via bluetooth and when it is trying to send it it reports permission denied (13)  the device i want to send it to is my phone
[06:41] <TBotNik> cypha``: Welcome!!
[06:42] <justyellowboy> Yo
[06:42] <justyellowboy> Anybody here use w3m?
[06:42] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Still want the liveCD configs as well?
[06:43] <TBotNik> BRB Checking on something.
[06:43] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, no the livecd doesn't matter right?
[06:43] <cypha``> TBotNik, apparently none of those keys in there are changeable
[06:43] <justyellowboy> I think there was an update on w3m about rss feeds. I used to be able to view them in my w3m browser but now it tries to download it. What's up with that? How can I view the rss in w3m again?
[06:43] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Would not think so!
[06:44] <dc5ala> alexandru1012, sending files via bluetooth is always troublesome =/ e.g. from my mac -> android does not work at all
[06:44] <drij> ah, found it! in ~/.gconf/desktop/ there was an old binding to "lwin" (aka the left "super" key)
[06:44] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\:  Unless somehow there was some huge delta, but don't see that.  Have never been able to get /etc/iptables to build and do not know if that is signifiacant.
[06:45] <alexandru1012> what should i do
[06:45] <dc5ala> alexandru1012, use something else but bluetooth ;)
[06:45] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, well it's what is forwarding packets right? making your computer a router
[06:46] <alexandru1012> need to restart dbus updated
[06:46] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, but you need a proper route/interface up before the routing works
[06:46] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: I thought it was more firewall related, so not sure.
[06:46] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Routing was working without it, but not nameservers/DNS
[06:47] <centr0> what does it mean when dir is red on on the command line?
[06:47] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: I remove NM because it kept rewriting the /etc/resolv.conf file which controls all nameservers and that is what got me stuck here, now.
[06:48] <bindi> centr0: a tarball or similiar
[06:48] <llutz_> TBotNik: if you need static dns-entries, change dhclient.conf or nm-connection settings
[06:49] <centr0> weird.  i installed vpnc and it was red and had a dir type in/ /etc
[06:49] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Originally I thought there was a way to go into the NM config and set all the nameservers there. But when I could not find that and kept dying I unfortunately purged NM
[06:49] <justyellowboy> Does anyone use w3m? I'm kinda new to it.
[06:49] <fmauro> uiuiui132: if the update fails try doing it directly with dpkg --configure --pending
[06:50] <TBotNik> llutz_: Thanks! but a lot lot lot more involved than that.
[06:50] <damagednoob> i'm on ubuntu 11.04 and i'm having issues with connecting to a pptp vpn. I dual boot vista and I can confirm that the vpn works in vista. How can I go about troubleshooting this issue?
[06:50] <kraeloc> when I try to connect to a pptp vpn server, i get an error saying it failed because "vpn service failed to start". can anyone help me?
[06:50] <uiuiui132> fmauro: will do. i am going offline now. will be back.
[06:51] <justyellowboy> Never mind.
[06:51] <kraeloc> i'm on 11.04 32-bit; when I try to connect to a pptp vpn server, i get an error saying it failed because "vpn service failed to start". can anyone help me?
[06:51] <jjg> nf
[06:52] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: So I need to do something, anything to attempt recover, what do you suggest?
[06:52] <geegeegee> anyone know of a good C IDE that has autocomplete for variables and syntax highlighting?
[06:52] <jjg> 杨琪在吗
[06:52] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, PB your interfaces file on the hard drive
[06:53] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, this /etc/init.d/networking
[06:53] <\DSAFEW\> err
[06:53] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, conf.d
[06:53] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, just put configs online so we can look at them, or proofread them yourself if you want
[06:53] <damagednoob> geegeegee, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments#C.2FC.2B.2B
[06:54] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: which conf file you want under what dir?
[06:54] <damagednoob> geegeegee, i've heard code blocks is pretty good
[06:54] <geegeegee> ok thanks :D
[06:55] <jjg> 这个怎么用啊
[06:55] <jjg> 谁能帮帮我啊
[06:56] <rww> !cn | jjg
[06:56] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, grep -ri wlan0 /etc
[06:58] <kraeloc> nevermind, it looks like i didn't even have the openvpn packages installed. I'ma install those and try again.
[06:58] <kraeloc> will be back if it doesn't help.
[06:58] <damagednoob> kraeloc, which vpn packages
[06:59] <kraeloc> one sec, checking which exact ones.
[07:00] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Puter slower than ever, since started downloads of 10.04 Dt and Server to ext HD, as may need CDs for recovery.
[07:00] <kraeloc> looks like just "openvpn", damagednoob. some quick googling made it seem needed.
[07:00] <photon> what's the best graphic card for under 150USD that works flawlessly with Ubuntu?
[07:00] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Still thinking about the grep -ri wlan cmd
[07:01] <damagednoob> kraeloc, aah k, i seem to have that installed already
[07:01] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, well.. just pastebin the files you know about, conf.d/networking etc
[07:01] <kraeloc> gonna reboot and try again. will return if it still isn't working. thanks damagednoob.
[07:02] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Copied the cmd wrong re-running now.
[07:02] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, well wlan or wlan0 works
[07:02] <\DSAFEW\> even 'grep -r wlan /etc'
[07:02] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: my copy did not have the "/etc"
[07:02] <\DSAFEW\> oh
[07:08] <anand> admin
[07:08] <anand> /admin
[07:09] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: At: http://pastebin.com/fkYG0Sw5
[07:10] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, so pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[07:10] <citizen-stig_> hi everyone
[07:10] <citizen-stig_> has somebody qoura invite?
[07:10] <anand> help me how to use irc
[07:10] <anand> ?
[07:11] <ikonia> citizen-stig_: please don't ask for that sort of thing here
[07:12] <citizen-stig_> sorry
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[07:14] <DrGrov> Hi
[07:15] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Dang forgetting we need /media/versions/etc so last cmd set all wrong
[07:15] <DrGrov> Is there a 11.04 64-bit LiveCD available? I would love to test 64-bit to see whether it works better than my 10.04 32-bit
[07:15] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, ok, yeah I forgot you were lookin on harddrive too
[07:16] <anand> \info
[07:16] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: let me get it right an repost
[07:17] <karex> DrGrov: have you checked http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download?
[07:21] <Internetpc> hi.........I am connected to a LAN network and I want that all the people should be able to create and delete files without my permissions...what should I set the Permissions and how ????please help
[07:22] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: K can not get cmd to run on the HDD mount at all.  Will give me /medai/version but nothing else outside of "Places" gui, in which i can do it all, but not with cmd line.
[07:23] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, what does ls /media/version say?
[07:23] <Internetpc> I there any one to help ?
[07:23] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Goes back to the original Q of the night HOW do I get chroot to mount and bind properly?
[07:23] <newb> Anyone know how to transfer files to a virtual mschine from a host one using virtual box?
[07:23] <cousin_mario> hello
[07:23] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, you just needed to specify the filesystem IIRC, but that could have just been a fluke
[07:23] <Internetpc> newb  : have you installded guest additions ?
[07:24] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: cmd line "ls -al" gives ".  .. "
[07:24] <\DSAFEW\> seems like it wouldn't need to be specified since it's a linux fs
[07:24] <newb> Internetpc, no
[07:24] <cousin_mario> how would you go on about setting up grub2 to chainload from another disk instead of scanning it and creating various entries?
[07:24] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, so mount /dev/sda2 /media/version says?
[07:24] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: umount then remount
[07:24] <Internetpc> then install it  first from the Devices options on the top
[07:25] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, are you root?
[07:25] <Internetpc> newb : then install it  first from the Devices options on the top
[07:25] <TBotNik> Yup
[07:25] <Internetpc> newb in the virtual machine
[07:25] <TBotNik> just error from sda2
[07:26] <DrGrov> karex: Yes of course I have checked that one and I know there is 11.04 available. But is coming as a bootable LiveCD?
[07:27] <newb> Internetpc, tks
[07:28] <llutz_> cousin_mario: use a /etc/grub.d/40_custom with the entries you want and disable 10_linux
[07:28] <\DSAFEW\> TBotNik, well what's the proper drive/partition?
[07:28] <karex> DrGrov: As I know Ubuntu CD is live cd except the alternate cds
[07:30] <gmitrev> hi guys, I'm using ubuntu 10.10 and need to update my gtk version because a ceartain app needs it. how can i do it?
[07:30] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: When server download completes going to reboot, think got this RAM copy all screwed, then can run the script fresh, without errors due to multiple runs, which is what I think current, mount problem is.
[07:30] <TBotNik> download has an hour to go on this slow connet.
[07:31]  * anand looks around
[07:32] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: Been trying to get boss to install Clear for this, will be much faster and much better.  He promised 4 months ago, but nada, even refused to put money on my expense card for it. #@#$%%^$# SOB
[07:33] <newb> Internetpc, how do i use it?
[07:33] <uiuiui132> fmauro: thank a lot! sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get build-dep samba
[07:33] <uiuiui132> did it for me.
[07:33] <fmauro> uiuiui132: cool
[07:34] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: His excuse is: So with that box you will also be able to connect at your house (get the laptop dongle with it), so you won't ever come in.  I want you in the office, not getting it.  Dang he never sees me anyway, always working nights
[07:35] <cousin_mario> llutz_: won't the latter disable scanning for everything?
[07:35] <llutz_> cousin_mario: only for linux-os
[07:36] <solomonic_> hey, so anybody want to help me setup adb on linux? :)
[07:36] <anand> hey help me setup prefix in ubuntu
[07:36] <anand> ??
[07:36] <TBotNik> solomonic: What DB?
[07:36] <llutz_> cousin_mario: just point the 40_custom to /vmlinuz on all drives you need. it will always use the latest kernel and you don't have to worry
[07:37] <solomonic> android
[07:37] <cousin_mario> llutz_: I'm confused
[07:38] <cousin_mario> llutz_: I just want update-grub to exclude adding entries from a specific disk
[07:38] <llutz_> cousin_mario: there should be some articles in the wiki/forum about grub2, describing this
[07:38] <fmauro> solomonic: yes, what is your problem?
[07:38] <sunit> I am trying to install lsb-core in ubuntu 9.10 which is required for install logme-in. I am getting error as can be seen in http://pastebin.com/D2gKkjRS
[07:38] <llutz_> cousin_mario: i doubt you can do that easily.
[07:38] <solomonic> fmauro, i'm new to linux and don't know how to set it up
[07:38] <fmauro> solomonic: Have you programmed for android before?
[07:38] <TBotNik> solomonic: Not me!  Nothing all with smart phones, if it ain't Blackberry and run native linux and ssh don't want it
[07:38] <llutz_> cousin_mario: grub2 is a pile of crap. either you do all manually or all automatic
[07:39] <cousin_mario> llutz_: I'm beginning to suspect that myself
[07:39] <solomonic> fmauro, no, i need it to send a cmd line to my phone to reboot into recovery
[07:39] <cousin_mario> so long for versatility
[07:40] <TBotNik> solomonic: You know BB is way ahead, was not a phone at first was a remote linux admin tool to begin with.
[07:40] <fmauro> solomonic: okay in that case you will only need the sdk and no IDE.  let me get the link
[07:41] <DrGrov> karex: Ok, thanks :)
[07:41] <fmauro> solomonic: http://dl.google.com/android/android-sdk_r12-linux_x86.tgz
[07:41] <TBotNik> solomonic: Iphone and Droid are still trying to catch up, but since Google is all (100%) linux server farm their geeks insisted on some ssh and other good stuff that BB already had so will pass the IPhone by miles in the next 2 years.
[07:42] <TBotNik> solomonic: But downer is you will have to upgrade your phone to match BB
[07:42] <DrGrov> Is the 11.04 64-bit not working properly since it is not recommended on ubuntu.com?
[07:43] <chenthu> can someone hlep me put with this?.....I am not able to use tar xfvj command
[07:43] <DrGrov> Just the 32-bit 11.04 is recommended.
[07:43] <chenthu> not able to extract ther file...
[07:43] <kaellan> i dont find my usb hdd in (computer) what to do ?
[07:43] <fmauro> solomonic: as soon as you unpack it. enter the tools directory and launch the android binary within
[07:43] <llutz_> chenthu: what was your exact command, what error?
[07:43] <TBotNik> DrGrov: May not be that, may be just the status of testing and confirmation
[07:43] <chenthu> kaellan:mount
[07:44]  * anand help me
[07:44] <fmauro> solomonic: or even better, read the readme
[07:44] <solomonic> smh..
[07:44] <solomonic> how come it's saying my pw is wrong
[07:44] <kaellan> chenthu: nwm it just didnt find it. changed usb port :P (from usb 3 to usb 2)
[07:44] <solomonic> i tried to do sudo in terminal and it ask for pw
[07:44] <solomonic> i just recently turned my pw off
[07:44]  * anand any one help me to setup prefix mail server
[07:44] <solomonic> so I don't have to login with it
[07:44] <solomonic> now it's saying my pw is wrong
[07:44] <TBotNik> solomonic: As it should
[07:45] <chenthu> llutz :tar xfvj broadcom-wl... bz2.
[07:45] <TBotNik> solomonic: PW is never off for sudo
[07:45] <llutz_> chenthu: tar xjf broadcom....
[07:45] <DrGrov> TBotNik: Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me.
[07:45] <chenthu> llutz yeah....i have a broad com file....too long to type so i gave the dots at the ends
[07:45] <DrGrov> Can I run the 11.04 just as a LiveCD yes?
[07:45] <solomonic> TBotNik, it's saying it's wrong. I turned it off so I wouldn't have to login with it. now it wont recognize my pw
[07:46] <xcase> hi, can somebody give me a hint, why ubuntu does not display my  additional appindicators, like the indicator-weather? (11.04, x64)
[07:46] <llutz_> chenthu: use "tar xjf broadcom...."  not tar xfvj, the filename has to follow the "f"
[07:46] <chenthu> llutz: i have the file in the particular directory i am running this command... /home/
[07:46] <DrGrov> How do I burn it as an .iso image on a CD? I have had some issues with burning on my current 10.04. It seems to work but not sure how to burn it correctly.
[07:46] <TBotNik> \DSAFEW\: What you thinking?  Haven't said much lately
[07:46] <chenthu> oh ok
[07:46] <chenthu> llutz : will try now
[07:47] <chenthu> llutz :still same error
[07:48] <chenthu> llutz : error is :cannot open: no such file or directory
[07:48] <llutz_> chenthu: "ls -l broadcom..."
[07:48] <chenthu> llutz: error is not recoverable:exiting now
[07:48] <TBotNik> solomonic: You can turn off the log-in on boot via the screen saver and gnome-conf but the pw is still on for sudo.  can you get to and edit your /etc/passwd file?  You may need to boot via liveCD to to edit it and then change PW in there.  Another way is to create new user, with all new ID and PWD and use that to get in.
[07:49] <cousin_mario> bbl
[07:49] <TBotNik> BRB Coffee break
[07:49] <solomonic> hmm
[07:49] <chenthu> llutz: says cannot access: no such file name or directory
[07:49] <me2resh> hi
[07:50] <solomonic> TBotNik, i'm new to linux/ubuntu. so i haven't tried /etc/passwd
[07:50] <llutz_> chenthu: so find the directory containing your tar file, cd to it, use command again
[07:50] <chenthu> llutz: the file is in the dirctory i am using the command
[07:51] <chenthu> llutz : i copied the file form usb to my home direcoty
[07:51] <llutz_> chenthu:  if so, you wouldn't get "cannot access: no such file name or directory"
[07:51] <chenthu> llutz: thats what i am wondering
[07:52] <chenthu> llutz: ok i think i gave the file name wrong...let me check
[07:52] <llutz_> chenthu: "find . -iname broadcom*"
[07:53] <chenthu> llutz: working now...i gave the file name as "w1" instead of "wl"
[07:57] <TBotNik> All: Back!! Hey guys been fun!! NOT!!  Got more to do and will be back 2morrow nite to whip this.  Ain't no machine ever whipped me, not yet, so this one is going down one way or another.  Will keep hitting it till it gives in.  LOL  See ya all tomorrow.
[07:57] <user> !OPS
[07:57] <user> Oh, he left
[08:00] <cypha``> any way I can send clipboard contents to pastebin?
[08:00] <cypha``> or a rightclick menu option for selected text?
[08:00] <MestreLion> ive "downloaded" a source package via Baazar Explorer, and modified a single file from it. How can I compile just this file? and how can i be sure that it will NOT overwrite the same binary in /usr/bin ?
[08:01] <chenthu> llutz: do u know how to activate the b43 driver after install from command line?
[08:01] <xmaz> Hey guys, how do i stop and start a tomcat server?
[08:02] <MestreLion> cypha``: depends on WHERE you are selection the content... gedit?
[08:02] <llutz_> chenthu: sudo insmod /path/to/wl.ko
[08:02] <cypha``> xmaz--> ps axwwww|grep tomcat
[08:02] <MestreLion> xmaz: how did you install the tomcat server? from repos?
[08:02] <chenthu> llutz; ok will try now
[08:02] <cypha``> MestreLion, yes gedit
[08:03] <xmaz> i installed it: apt-get install tomcat6
[08:03] <MestreLion> xmaz: sudo service tomcat6 stop
[08:03] <chenthu> sysy can read path
[08:04] <chenthu> brb
[08:04] <xcase> does anybody know why unity does not display the  additional appindicators, like the indicator-weather or sysmonitor?
[08:04] <orated> Hello! I'd like to change my operating system to linux and decided to start with Ubuntu. I'm using Packard Bell easynote laptop. How can I start with using Ubuntu, what all things I need to know?
[08:05] <ThinkT510> !manual | orated
[08:05] <MestreLion> cypha``: theres no automatic way to do it. But you could try to find (or create)  a plugin or external tools from it
[08:05] <ubc1_> hi
[08:05] <cypha``> MestreLion, what about for the clipboard?
[08:05] <chenthu> llutz : it says command not found
[08:06] <xmaz> Hey i need to install sun-java6-jre on my ubuntu, but the command apt-get install sun-java6-jre says there is no such package...
[08:06] <llutz_> !java | xmaz
[08:06] <MestreLion> cypha``:  im not aware of any tools for that...
[08:06] <cypha``> MestreLion, or what about running bash/terminal commands within gedit, like you can with vim?
[08:06] <DJones> orated: The best way to get started will be to download the install file from the ubuntu website and then either burn the iso file to a cd or create a liveUSB stick.  Once you've done that, you can put the cd/usb stick in and restart the computer and you'll boot up into ubuntu which you can test with before installing it onto your hard drive
[08:07] <MestreLion> cypha``: that you can. Go to Tools -> Manage External Tools
[08:07] <DJones> !install | orated This should help you with how to get it installed
[08:07] <davinci11> hi
[08:08] <davinci11> first time here
[08:08] <windparadise> hello, any ubuntu user from Japan ?
[08:08] <MestreLion> Not sure if here is the besst place to ask for this, but... ive "downloaded" a source package via Baazar Explorer, and modified a single file from it. How can I compile just this file? and how can i be sure that it will NOT overwrite the same binary in /usr/bin ?
[08:08] <ThinkT510> !jp | windparadise
[08:08] <cypha``> MestreLion, then?
[08:08] <YankDownUnder> windparadise, Yes...but they're in Japan... ;)
[08:08] <windparadise> lol
[08:09] <MestreLion> cypha``: then create any command you want to run... they will show up in Tools ->  External Tools
[08:10] <cypha``> MestreLion, can you give me an example?
[08:10] <cypha``> How would I run pastebinit for the current file contents?
[08:11] <MestreLion> cypha``: there are some examples aredy built in gedit.. like BUILD, REMOVE TRAILING SPACES, etc
[08:11] <llutz_> cypha``: pastebinit filename
[08:11] <bicepjai> i have compiled my source and need to create initrd image to load my compiled kernel . i know we should use mkinitramfs, but from which folder should we run this command to generate the resulting image file inside /boot ..... help ?
[08:13] <chenthu> can anyone tell me how to activate wireless interface using terminal?
[08:13] <cypha``> llutz_, literally?
[08:14] <cypha``> llutz_, what's the variable for filename?
[08:14] <fmauro> chenthu: activate in what way?, make it connect to a WLAN?
[08:14] <fmauro> chenthu: or just turning it on
[08:14] <llutz_> cypha``: in a script? $1  for the first given parameter
[08:15] <cypha``> input "Current Selection" ?
[08:15] <chenthu> fmauro: i just installed my b43 driver....now when i run lshw -C network command
[08:15] <cypha``> llutz_, but how do I define $1?
[08:16] <cypha``> I want $1 to be the current document name
[08:16] <chenthu> fmauro; it says network disabled, description :wireless interface
[08:16] <cypha``> or even, the Current Selection input
[08:16] <llutz_> cypha``: what's that, nautilus scripts? sry i misread you and spoke about bash
[08:16] <chenthu> fmauro : what should i do to get it *network ebnabled
[08:16] <MestreLion> cypha``:  open Software Center and look for pastebinit and nautilus-pastebin
[08:17] <fmauro> chenthu: try ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:17] <chenthu> ok
[08:18] <MestreLion> cypha``:  but they only work with whole files, not current selection
[08:18] <chenthu> fmauro ; Thanks its working
[08:18] <fmauro> chenthu: good
[08:19] <cypha``> MestreLion, it's a start :)
[08:19] <MestreLion> cypha``: but you can use Tools -> Manage External Tools to change it to operate on current selection
[08:19] <cypha``> MestreLion, within gedit, what variable represents the current "input"?
[08:20] <photon> where can I find a graphic card compatibility list for Ubuntu? Google hasn't found anything remotely useful.
[08:21] <chenthu> fmauro: how to scan using terminal?
[08:21] <ThinkT510> photon: planning to buy a new graphics card?
[08:21] <fmauro> chenthu: iwlist scan
[08:21] <photon> ThinkT510: yes
[08:21] <DJones> !hcl | photon Have a look at the component catalog page from Ubottu's link
[08:21] <photon> DJones: thanks
[08:21] <MestreLion> cypha``:  none. but it can pass current selection as stdin to any command (if that command allows input from stdin)
[08:22] <cypha``> MestreLion, not sure what that means
[08:22] <cypha``> there is a 'variable' referring to the input, no?
[08:23] <YankDownUnder> photon, Just by a really nice Nvida card. End of story.
[08:24] <photon> YankDownUnder: Yea, I am planning to go with the GTX 460 OC, but I am not sure how well it is supported and there are some threads about people not finding suitable drivers.
[08:24] <MestreLion> cypha``:  no. have you ever done any scripting? think about "cat  file.txt | grep hello".  the "|" sends cat's output to grep, right?
[08:24] <YankDownUnder> photon, Get it. End of story.
[08:24] <susundberg> I have new Radeon HD 6800 and it worked out of the box
[08:24] <susundberg> Enabling 'restricted drivers' was matter of clicking 'do this'
[08:25] <cypha``> MestreLion, yes, but how's that affect this?
[08:25] <susundberg> Also OpenCL programming seems to work nicely after downloading the SDK from Atis homepage
[08:26] <YankDownUnder> susundberg, Too much work. Just deal with Nvida until AMD/ATI get their collective crap together and support linux full on...strewth that.
[08:26] <MestreLion> cypha``:  gedit can send the current selection to a program the same way a pipe ( "|" ) does
[08:26] <photon> yeah, I don't like ATI. had one for two years, nothing but driver trouble.
[08:26] <susundberg> YankDownUnder: Wha.. too much work one click -- that wasn't even compulsory ..
[08:26] <photon> YankDownUnder: what makes you think that the GTX 460 will work driver-wise? have you tried it?
[08:27] <cypha``> MestreLion, but how do I create a variable for the "current selection", which in this case is the 'input'
[08:27] <llutz_> grep nearly never needs a cat :)
[08:27] <MestreLion> llutz_: i know, it was just an example
[08:27] <llutz_> a bad one MestreLion :)
[08:27] <MestreLion> true... but it was the first that came to my mind to explain stdin
[08:28] <YankDownUnder> photon, I've gotten the "proprietary" driver and it was all good.
[08:28] <cypha``> for example %GEDIT_CURRENT_DOCUMENT_NAME" retrieves the current document name
[08:28] <marijn> my system keeps throttling down the cpu to the minimum supported speed (even when the power is connected). any ideas what could be wrong?
[08:28] <photon> YankDownUnder: which graphic card have you got? :)
[08:28] <cypha``> what would retrieve the current selection (which i've also set as the input)
[08:29] <MestreLion> cypha``:  you dont need to create a variable for that. gedit already places the selection in stdin. So if the program reads from stdin (like grep and many other programns/commands do, it will work automatically
[08:29] <YankDownUnder> photon, That was for a client. Not for me. I've got an ancient GT8600 wif 2 x DVI out...1gb
[08:29] <ThinkT510> photon: nvidia drivers do seem to be less problematic, i can't wait for nouveau to mature
[08:29] <dhruvasagar> how many people have upgraded to gnome3 ?
[08:29] <cypha``> MestreLion, what's the variable for stdin?
[08:29] <YankDownUnder> Nouvea will mature in the next three years...
[08:30] <YankDownUnder> Gnome3 sucks until it can duplicate Gnome2.
[08:30] <Utopiah> hi #ubuntu , what files does gnome-display-properties modify? it does not keep setting at boot
[08:30] <dhruvasagar> YankDownUnder: It is very different, I don't however think that it sucks...
[08:31] <dhruvasagar> YankDownUnder: I would also like some features of gnome2 back, but I am sure we could configure those...I don't use the `menu` at all, so those changes won't bother me much
[08:31] <MestreLion> cypha``: theres no variable for that. usually programs that read from it do it automatically if no filename was specified. At most, you may need to use a switch to force it to read from stdin
[08:31] <YankDownUnder> dhruvasagar, Until it can be changed "back to" the same as Gnome2, it sucks. .They forgot that bit in development...and have admitted it as well.
[08:31] <OSInet> Hello. I have a problem on natty: files in /opt with mode 0755 are modified every night to 0655, and I cannot figure whence it comes. I have checked root's crontab and there is nothing in it to cause this. I did not identify any visible cause in /etc/cron.d[aily] either. Any suggestions ?
[08:31] <dhruvasagar> YankDownUnder: I am just ugrading to gnome-3, I think it is slightly more polished :)
[08:31] <cypha``> MestreLion, so you're saying I can just type "pastebinit" in the code, and it'll work?
[08:31] <dhruvasagar> YankDownUnder: yea I know :), but still have you tried it ?
[08:32] <cypha``> everythnig else is assumed and taken care of by gedit?
[08:32] <MestreLion> cypha``:  if pastebinit reads from stdin, yes ;)
[08:32] <dhruvasagar> YankDownUnder: brb, gotta restart
[08:32] <ThinkT510> photon: i got: GT218 [NVS 3100M] works great
[08:32] <YankDownUnder> dhruvasagar, Well, if that's what you like - all good. I, however, want more configuration and ability to make things the way I've used them for the past 12 years.
[08:32] <gnewb> OSInet: One /usr?
[08:33] <cypha``> MestreLion, wow, it worked!
[08:33] <cypha``> thanks!
[08:33] <OSInet> gnewb: ? this happens only on /opt
[08:33] <cypha``> you were right, it assumed and accepted stdin
[08:33] <MestreLion> cypha``:  ;)
[08:34] <gnewb> OSInet: Ok, I had a like error, it was multiple /usr thing. let me look at the boards....
[08:34] <OSInet> I have a package (drush) installed there, and a symlink from /usr/local/bin/drush to /opt/drush/drush to run it. But I have to chown it 755 daily
[08:34] <OSInet> hmm
[08:35] <fmauro> OSInet: the symlink or the binary?
[08:35] <cypha``> MestreLion, how about this one...how do I make the resizing arrow show for a larger area around a window border?
[08:35] <MestreLion> cypha``: what?
[08:36] <cypha``> to resize a window, I have to put my mouse on the window border, where it turns to a resizing arrow
[08:36] <mang0> Guys, my volume control has gone from where it was in the taskbar....(like, next to the clock) How can I get it back? I've tried right click > add to panel but volume control isn't there....
[08:36] <MestreLion> cypha``:  making the window border thicker perhaps? :P
[08:36] <OSInet> fmauro: the binary
[08:36] <OSInet> (a script, actually)
[08:36] <cypha``> that resizing arrow becomes available for like a 1px width
[08:36] <cypha``> it's ridiculous
[08:36] <cypha``> i'm getting carpal tunnel
[08:36] <gnewb> OSInet: It is a Binary?
[08:37] <OSInet> no, a script package
[08:37] <MestreLion> mang0: add Indicator Applet
[08:37] <Seppoz> hello, how do i reset my seehourse password?
[08:37] <cypha``> increasing window border thickness is clever, but obviously aesthetically a failure! :)
[08:37] <YankDownUnder> seehourse? Hmmm....
[08:38] <OSInet> I noticed that the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard says executables in /opt should actually be in /opt/<package>/bin, wonder whether this could be related and some daily job cleans executable files outside /opt/*/bin . But then why set to 655, not 600 ?
[08:38] <Seppoz> seahorse
[08:38] <OSInet> (or 644)
[08:38] <davinci11> hi all, I have a problem on ubuntu cloud. when i restart instance , installed apache will disappear, is it VM can't be permanently store installed program ?
[08:38] <gnewb> OSInet: OK, here is what I just found, is rather recent: http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2011/07/msg00122.html , am not sure about the Unity part of it .
[08:38] <MestreLion> cypha``:  the other solution would be to resize using lower-right corner of window... area is much larger
[08:38] <Sargun_Screen> hey
[08:38] <cypha``> MestreLion, this isn't something that can be edited?
[08:38] <mang0> MestreLion: Where is that option to get the sound control? I've added an indicator appliet and the sound icon still isn't there....
[08:38] <cypha``> for X.org or whatever
[08:38] <Sargun_Screen> I'm having issues with performance on an ATI card + full screen flash
[08:39] <ThinkT510> cypha``: you could reduce mouse sensitivity
[08:39] <OSInet> gnewb: I'm not running unity but classic
[08:40] <cypha``> ThinkT510, seriously? slow my pointer?
[08:40] <ole_oz6oh> Hello i am looking for a a person there can give me some ideas for programming i c GCC in ubuntu
[08:40] <OSInet> although there is a unity-window-decorator in the background. I'm afraid I don't see how it relates, though
[08:40] <gnewb> OSInet: Then take a look at that link, is Debian, and it sorta addresses the question as stated.
[08:40] <MestreLion> mang0: im not sure... mine is in Indicator applet...
[08:40] <mang0> :/
[08:40] <iceroot> ole_oz6oh: ##c ##c++ #gcc
[08:40] <mang0> K thanks, I'll check it out though :)
[08:40] <ole_oz6oh> specially graphic
[08:41] <ThinkT510> cypha``: if your having trouble grabbing the edge it sounds to me you're moving your mouse too fast
[08:41] <cypha``> ThinkT510, sensitivity is as low as possible now
[08:41] <MestreLion> ThinkT510: no, i know what he means... its really a pain...
[08:41] <cypha``> and it still is impracticle
[08:41] <cypha``> impractical
[08:42] <OSInet> gnewb: just did that, but I don't see how it applies: the suggested patch does not modify any chmod line, only chown
[08:42] <cypha``> ThinkT510, are you on an ultranav touchpad?
[08:42] <MestreLion> ThinkT510: no, i know what he means... its really a pain... default border is just 1px... and 1px is way too think no matter which sensitivity you use
[08:42] <MestreLion> thin*
[08:42] <ole_oz6oh> icerot hello yes i have had a biginnerprogram in source Idea #14431 from Brainstorm but this souce is not more on Brainstorm
[08:42] <ThinkT510> cypha``: i'm more of a xfce guy so i haven't had that problem, plus i use a mouse rather than a trackpad
[08:42] <gnewb> OSInet: Ok, on it still, I may be a moment,,,,
[08:42] <MestreLion> cypha``:  try the lower-right corder of the window... usually uou have a much larger area to resize
[08:43] <ole_oz6oh> iceroot if you go i Google you se it i not more ther
[08:43] <MestreLion> corner*
[08:43] <cypha``> MestreLion, the border resizing is one issue. the other is the slider (scrollbars)
[08:43] <cypha``> so annoying to get them to show
[08:43] <cypha``> similar issue to the border resizing
[08:43] <cypha``> where mouse has to be exactly in a position
[08:43] <cypha``> MestreLion, lower right corner is what i've been doing, but it sucks, especialy when other windows are set "always on top" and ahead of that window
[08:44] <MestreLion> cypha``:  i dont use 11.04, but ive tried it once and scrollbars didnt seem an issue... the larger overlay always appeared when i hovered mouse close to edge
[08:44] <ole_oz6oh> iceroot it was a source and i could make a compile with gcc
[08:44] <chewy> hi guys, do you use the MAgic Trackpad? I can no longer make it work. I did it some time ago, but not anymore...
[08:44] <cypha``> mine has to be exactly on edge
[08:44] <cypha``> i want fulltime scrollbars back
[08:44] <ole_oz6oh> iceroot i am newbeginner but only in graphic
[08:45] <llutz_> OSInet: have you checked ctime of affected files and looked for processes running that time?
[08:45] <MestreLion> cypha``:  you can disable them to get back full scrollbars... i think there is a package for that in repos
[08:45] <spacebug-> cypha``: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-disable-overlay-scrollbars-in.html
[08:45] <iceroot> ole_oz6oh: why you need to comile something?
[08:45] <gnewb> OSInet: srry, 755 and 777?
[08:46] <OSInet> llutz_: I'll have to check tomorrow as I already chmoded it back today
[08:46] <OSInet> gnewb: yes, the executable script is 755 and every morning I find it reset to 655
[08:46] <dc5ala> cypha``, about resizing window, i usually use alt + middle mouse, that works anywhere on the window
[08:46] <yuvateja> may i create buttons text feilds using shell scripting?
[08:46] <cypha``> dc5ala, i'm on a laptop, no middle mouse button
[08:47] <ikonia> yuvateja: no
[08:47] <MestreLion> dc5ala: nice tip! :D
[08:47] <cypha``> MestreLion, why doesn't this overlay-scrollbar package have any options?
[08:47] <OSInet> llutz_: but seeing that date it could help pinpoint the process by checking what runs on that time
[08:48] <MestreLion> cypha``:  because it doesnt need it... if you dont like it, just remove the package ;)
[08:48] <MestreLion> and youll get regular scrollbars back :)
[08:48] <yuvateja> ikonia: there is any other choices through extra packages?
[08:48] <davinci11> hi all, I have a problem on ubuntu cloud. when i restart instance , installed apache will disappear, is it VM can't be permanently store installed program ?
[08:48] <adit> huft
[08:48] <ikonia> yuvateja: there are many graphical libraries/toolkits that can do it
[08:48] <adit> no idea
[08:49] <cypha``> can I refresh/restart nautilus by doing a ctrl+f1 and then back to X at ctrl+f7?
[08:49] <Utopiah> [multiple monitor] X starts by default with mirror displays, can I change that to start with different displays at each boot without making a static xorg.conf file so that when the 2nd monitor is not plugged, I dont have the extra screen?
[08:49] <yuvateja> ikonia: one example please............
[08:49] <dbugger> Hey guys. Is there a way to enable WebGL in my Ubuntu?
[08:49] <ikonia> yuvateja: there are many gtk toolkits
[08:49] <dbugger> specially for chrome
[08:49] <ole_oz6oh> iceroot eine gut frage aber als neu mit c programmierung muss man viel probiere  ich bin 75  hi hi
[08:49] <iceroot> !de | ole_oz6oh
[08:50] <iceroot> ole_oz6oh: ich empfehle dir den kanal ##c anstatt #ubuntu
[08:50] <ole_oz6oh> i must try my bad englich
[08:50] <yuvateja> using zentity we can't invoke a button's action
[08:50] <ole_oz6oh> iceroot thanks i try ther have a nice day
[08:50] <cypha``> MestreLion, sorry, million questions cuz I finally found someone that knows their shit
[08:50] <gnewb> OSInet: Scroll down to Strange Numbers: http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml
[08:50] <cypha``> MestreLion, how can I get a python prompt within gedit?
[08:51] <yuvateja> ikonia: gtk tool kits means packages?
[08:51] <Myrtti> cypha``: mind your language :-/
[08:51] <ikonia> yuvateja: yes,
[08:51] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ole_oz6oh: Was ist das Problem?
[08:51] <OSInet> gnewb: yes, and ?
[08:51] <Myrtti> ole_oz6oh: /join #ubuntu-de
[08:51] <MestreLion> cypha``:  im a newb just like you
[08:51] <OSInet> (FWIW, I've been using chmod since 1985)
[08:52] <gnewb> OSInet: Is that the error and possible remedy?
[08:52] <yuvateja> ikonia :u don't know which packages are used?
[08:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> it's probably changed alot since '85
[08:52] <ole_oz6oh> Us3r_Unfrienly i will make a simply graficprogramme beginning with hello world
[08:53] <ikonia> yuvateja: it's not that simple, I suggest you research it more
[08:53] <OSInet> gnewb: sorry, but I just do not understand what you are trying to tell me: by pointing to the description of octal perms. In other words, the file is -rwxr-xr-x normally, but every morning it is reset to -rwr-xr-x, which is as useless a permission as can be IMHO
[08:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ole_oz6oh: c++ or java Oder eine andere Sprache
[08:53] <yuvateja> ikonia: ok,thanku
[08:54] <OSInet> (typo: it is reset to -rw-r-xr-x)
[08:54] <vlt> !de | Us3r_Unfriendly
[08:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> vlt: i'm english helping someone
[08:55] <Myrtti> Us3r_Unfriendly: then do it in English, this is an English language channel
[08:55] <gnewb> OSInet: I understand, that is why I posted that page, there are u.o.a. and other sys calls that can and do tangle those calls around.
[08:55] <YankDownUnder> If I'm not mistaken, the Deutch channel is something like "ubuntu-de" or so... ;)
[08:56] <user> YankDownUnder: Is't .de german?
[08:56] <ChessTeach> My company needs to generate a pdf and html copy of all documents generated by our rails app, currently we are planning on using latex to do this. I want to know if there is another program that can do this, maybe something better. Any ideas?
[08:56] <user> ChessTeach: Latex is the best
[08:56] <YankDownUnder> user, Change your name. And yes, the Deutsch channel is DE
[08:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Myrtti: so if i help in english then what?
[08:56] <llutz_> YankDownUnder: user read what ubottu just said, #ubuntu-de
[08:57] <user> YankDownUnder: My name?
[08:57] <Myrtti> Us3r_Unfriendly: then great. if you help in German, then please do it elsewhere
[08:57] <YankDownUnder> llutz, As if I'm really paying attention? :)
[08:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Myrtti: sounds a bit racist. sorry but i'll just pm him. no problem
[08:57] <user> tensorpudding: Why would I change it?
[08:58] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ole_oz6oh: can i pm you...or...kann i Uhr können Sie
[08:58] <OSInet> gnewb: indeed, chown will reset bit 04000, for instance
[08:58] <beniamino> i want to run the command 'fetchmail -d' as a non-privileged user, every time i start the machine. what's the right way to do this?
[08:58] <ChessTeach> user: really, it seems to create really ugly code that can be difficult to format correctly
[08:58] <gnewb> OSInet: That is a start...
[08:58] <user> ChessTeach: Then youre doing it wrong
[08:59] <ChessTeach> user: well i just started learning it, do i need to style it where i am entering text or is it possible to do all styling in the header area
[08:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> beniamino: i haven't used that command...what does it do?
[08:59] <llutz_> beniamino: users crontab, use @reboot
[08:59] <OSInet> well, I guess I'll be waiting until tomorrow morning to check the ctime of the file. maybe it will point to a command ran at a specific hour
[08:59] <YankDownUnder> Us3r_Unfriendly, It kills your computer.
[08:59] <quiescens> i doubt ctime would change
[09:00] <user> ChessTeach: Try #latex maybe? I don't really know it well enough to support it
[09:00] <ChessTeach> user: yeah ok, thanks
[09:00] <llutz_> quiescens: if you chmod a file, it will
[09:00] <beniamino> llutz_: sounds good, will try it
[09:00] <beniamino> Us3r_Unfriendly : it fetches mail every so often
[09:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> YankDownUnder: sudo halt
[09:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> beniamino: okay
[09:00] <gnewb> OSInet: That is what it sounded like from the go, time synch stuff,
[09:00] <vlt> Us3r_Unfriendly: "pm" -> "Uhr" LOL ;-)
[09:00] <YankDownUnder> Us3r_Unfriendly, "sudo rm - rf /*" does it.
[09:00] <wasanzy> hi all
[09:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> YankDownUnder: i wasn't born yesterday.  that will get you banned quick
[09:01] <user> !ops | YankDownUnder
[09:01] <Myrtti> YankDownUnder: please don't do that here
[09:01] <OSInet> gnewb: ok, till tomorrow, then
[09:01] <quiescens> on the up side, yank's command probably won't do anything
[09:02] <gnewb> OSInet: And check your BIOS clock, just in case.
[09:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> YankDownUnder: i asked what that command did.  doesn't mean i'm new to a shell
[09:02] <OSInet> gnewb: nice idea
[09:02]  * YankDownUnder smiles
[09:03] <wasanzy> After installing my ubuntu 11.04, I saw that it doesn't have an option to Hibernate, when I did some googling, it sound like the OS came with Hibernate b4. even my friend who uses the same machine am using have a Hibernate option. my question is how do I add Hibernate to my OS?
[09:03] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: do you have a swap partition?
[09:03] <llutz_> wasanzy: do you have a swap-partition >= ramsize?
[09:04] <wasanzy> I hv swap partition
[09:04] <wasanzy> my ram is 3GB
[09:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> su -c "find ~/ -iname '*.mp3' -exec mplayer '{}' '+'"
[09:04] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: is it bigger than your ram?
[09:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> oops wrong window
[09:05] <wasanzy> u mean the Hibrinate is bigger than my ram?
[09:05] <vlt> wasanzy: It has to be bigger.
[09:05] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: is the swap partition bigger than your ram size
[09:05] <wasanzy> oooh sorry, is 4GB rather
[09:05] <ewook> wasanzy: and the size of the swap?
[09:06] <amit__> hi
[09:06] <wasanzy> let me check
[09:06] <amit__> how to solve this error E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> what's up amit__
[09:06] <amit__> i already done  sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amit__: i rm the lock
[09:06] <wasanzy> my swap is 108MB
[09:06] <amit__> help please
[09:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amit__: i'll pm you
[09:07] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: then that is why you can't hibernate
[09:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amit__: is that okay?
[09:07] <amit__> Us3r_Unfriendly, no
[09:07] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: hibernate requires a swap partition bigger than your ram
[09:08] <nit-wit> amit__,  try these two commands. sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:08] <nit-wit> sudo apt-get -f install
[09:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amit__: how about-          sudo rm -fr /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:08] <wasanzy> not that I can't Hibernate, I can't even see the word Hibernate under my power manager
[09:08] <amit__> nit-wit, same errors
[09:09] <wasanzy> so should I create new swap and reinstall the power manager?
[09:09] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: it won't give you the option because you don't have sufficient swap
[09:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amit__: going to sound dumb but have you rebooted since the sudo rm command?
[09:09] <amit__> Us3r_Unfriendly, no
[09:09] <amit__> Us3r_Unfriendly, should i?
[09:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amit__: i would, should probably fix the problem, otherwise come back and we'll try the other way
[09:10] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: i suppose you can make a bigger swap and restart then the option should appear
[09:10] <amit__> Us3r_Unfriendly, ok. goin to restart.
[09:10] <wasanzy> ok
[09:10] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: make sure you're not using the swap partition while you resize it
[09:10] <wasanzy> ok
[09:11] <wasanzy> I will do that and get back to you.
[09:11] <EULUISM> I have this problem on ubuntu 11.04 failed to get i915 symbols, graphics turbo disabled error on boot
[09:11] <EULUISM> any solution?
[09:12] <EULUISM> I have 11.04 64 bits... Same problem on 32 bits? or on ubuntu 10.10?
[09:12] <ikonia> EULUISM: have you used a PPA package
[09:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> EULUISM: sorry still haven't upgraded from 10.10
[09:12] <ikonia> EULUISM: or the Xorg module from intel's website
[09:12] <amit__> Us3r_Unfriendly, yes it worked. thank you.
[09:12] <EULUISM> I speak very low english
[09:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amit__: i thought it would
[09:12] <EULUISM> What is PPA package
[09:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amit__: no problem
[09:12] <EULUISM> I am a new user of ubuntu
[09:12] <ThinkT510> !ppa | EULUISM
[09:12] <Colin969> Hey
[09:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> EULUISM: what exactly is the problem in english
[09:13] <Colin969> Can someone give me a download link to Ubuntu Netbook 10.04?
[09:13] <Colin969> Cant seem to find it.
[09:13] <Colin969> And 11.04 wont seem to work unless I update from 10.04
[09:14] <EULUISM> Us3r_Unfriendly What I need to use
[09:14] <Colin969> Anyone?
[09:14] <EULUISM> You can make a tutorial
[09:14] <caith> hi
[09:14] <nit-wit> Colin969, http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[09:14] <EULUISM> !addppa
[09:15] <gnewb> Colin969: One moment please....
[09:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Colin969: working on it
[09:15] <nit-wit> its up
[09:15] <Colin969> Lol, nit-wit replied =D
[09:15] <Colin969> Thanks
[09:15] <nit-wit> from W7 to boot. ;)
[09:16] <Colin969> Brb
[09:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Colin969: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso
[09:16] <wasanzy> ThinkT510: how do I stop the swap? I tried killing the pid but it didn't work
[09:16] <dyd> if i install compiz will i be able to switch back to default graphics?
[09:16] <llutz_> wasanzy: sudo swapoff -a
[09:16] <wasanzy> I want to delete it and create new one, will that help?
[09:16] <wasanzy> thanks
[09:17] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: i find it easier to use gparted, you can do it all there
[09:17] <wasanzy> ok
[09:17] <Onyx47> hey guys, not really a Linux question but I think I'm better off here than on a windows users channel... anyone running dual boot with ext2fsd (or any other ext4 driver if there are any) on win 7?
[09:18] <iceroot> Onyx47: ##windows
[09:18] <sveinse> How can I list all characters within a font? It seems charater map displays the chars from other fonts as well
[09:19] <sveinse> I'm trying to figure which symbols are included in a particular font
[09:21] <szal> sveinse: your favourite word processing application should do that
[09:22] <al_nz1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDM39Vo8Z0M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
[09:22] <al_nz1> comments welcome
[09:22] <vlt> sveinse: I think a word processor doesn't list all characters. There are tools that will. Don't know which comes with Ubuntu.
[09:22] <thrope> I have ubuntu 10.10 and I am getting a "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" error whenever I used less. TERM=xterm
[09:22] <thrope> any ideas on how to fix this?
[09:23] <sveinse> I'm a little surprised that character map merges several fonts into one list.
[09:23] <ThinkT510> al_nz1: a tutorial? were you trying to help someone with that?
[09:24] <al_nz1> ThinkT510: I was trying to do it. quite complicated but i got there in the end, and decided to document it
[09:24] <al_nz1> since info on what I was doing was scarse
[09:25] <Myrtti> al_nz1: if you want comments on it, may I suggest #ubuntu-offtopic, since it's not strictly related to this channel
[09:25] <wasanzy> ThinkT510: Do you think 5000MB is good
[09:25] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: good for what?
[09:25] <al_nz1> Myrtti: ok, but it is a linux tool that I am using
[09:25] <Myrtti> wasanzy: if you want to hibernate, your swap needs to be *atleast* the same size as your RAM
[09:25] <al_nz1> and it was ubuntu at that!
[09:26] <wasanzy> I guess 5000MB is the same as 5GB right?
[09:26] <Myrtti> al_nz1: this is for Ubuntu support issues, ie. if you've got a problem with Ubuntu, or are helping someone specific with their problems
[09:26] <Myrtti> wasanzy: no.
[09:26] <Myrtti> wasanzy: not exactly
[09:26] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: ah yes, sorry; 5000MB is under 5GB
[09:26] <wasanzy> OK
[09:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> wasanzy: 1024 mb x 5
[09:27] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: a general rule for a swap size is roughly 1.5 times the size of ram
[09:27] <wasanzy> ok
[09:27] <wasanzy> I will do that
[09:28] <Boreeas> I am having problems with my connection to the internet. With windows, I had no problems, but with ubuntu, websites suddenly time out or refuse my connection
[09:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> 5120mb is 5 gigs
[09:29] <wasanzy> ok
[09:29] <wasanzy> am making it 10000MB then just to be save
[09:29] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: that is a waste of diskdrive space
[09:30] <wasanzy> hmmm
[09:30] <wasanzy> ok
[09:30] <DorianJaminais> Hi guys !
[09:31] <DorianJaminais> I got a problem with unity, compiz and bumblebee after today update
[09:31] <DorianJaminais> I apply the update but my laptop crashed during the update
[09:31] <DorianJaminais> now I can't login anymore with unity
[09:32] <scucci> Anyone have a spare minute to help me with an input issue? Wacom on 10.04, seeing button 2 in xev, but not working as right click.
[09:32] <DorianJaminais> and if I try the classical gnome-panel with the effect, I get everything upside down
[09:32] <nerxgas> i installed gnome3, how can i change my background image, or customize the appearance?
[09:32] <DorianJaminais> any of you have an idea of what can I do ?
[09:33] <DorianJaminais> nerxgas : I don't use gnome shell so I have no knowledge about that but I've seen theme on gnome-look.org
[09:33] <ThinkT510> !fixapt | DorianJaminais
[09:33] <DorianJaminais> maybe you should have a look there, they may exaplin how to apply their theme
[09:34] <scucci> DorianJamiais for the screen roatation have you tried "xrandr -o inverted" or xrandr -o normal" in terminal?
[09:35] <bjhaid> i have some webservers running on my pc, but somehow I cannot access them on the network, i am not sure if it was an update that caused
[09:35] <bjhaid> anyone know how i can revert the update
[09:35] <DorianJaminais> ubittu : my database does appear to being locked because I was able to purge bumblebee and reinstall it again
[09:38] <DorianJaminais> bjhaid : It does not work
[09:38] <DorianJaminais> I mean
[09:38] <mage7> hello ...my unity is not auto-hiding...could someone tell me to hide it
[09:38] <mage7> this erratic behaviour has happened quite a few times
[09:38] <DorianJaminais> in inverted mode it inverted left and right
[09:39] <a3Dman> I'm making a customized Ubuntu live CD and I want to force Ubuntu Classic session, what configuration should I change?
[09:40] <DorianJaminais> actually I don't really care about the gnome-panel session
[09:40] <jose> hello
[09:41] <DorianJaminais> but I get a fash when I login to unity and then I get back to gdm
[09:43] <DorianJaminais> anyone of you have and idea about my unity problem ?
[09:43] <mage7> hello....hello ...the  unity bar is not auto-hiding on my desktop...could someone tell me how to hide it
[09:44] <dr_willis> other then unity/x/compiz is crashing... no DorianJaminais
[09:44] <Ascavasaion> I guess this is not the correct channel to ask this, but please send em to the correct one then... "Does anyone here know anything about replacing operating systems on cellphones?  My friend gave me an old iphone knockoff... it is called a pinphone.  I have tried jailbreaking it to no avail.  A few ideas and pointers would be awesome."
[09:44] <scucci> Anyone have a spare minute to help me with an input issue? Wacom on 10.04, seeing button 2 in xev, but not working as right click.
[09:45] <DorianJaminais> dr_willis : ok thanks anyway, I'm gonna work on gnome-panel for today I try to work it out tonight
[09:45] <dr_willis> mage7  unity --reset    should reset it back to defaults,   unity --reset-icons   for default icon setup
[09:45] <DorianJaminais> Ok I try this before
[09:46] <dr_willis> DorianJaminais:  work on what mexactly?
[09:46] <DorianJaminais> work on having my laptop to log again into unity
[09:47] <altinn> can anyone please tell me how to configure this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"
[09:47] <HektoR> hello guys ... how can i mount public samba share folder with rw permissions ?
[09:48] <nit-wit> altinn, that is a unlock command
[09:48] <DorianJaminais> Ok unity --reset didn't solve my problem
[09:48] <nit-wit> altinn, but you rm'ed the packg already
[09:48] <altinn> nit-wit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11089527#post11089527
[09:48] <altinn> I keep getting this error
[09:48] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[09:49] <chBoy> const char *mdev="/dev/input/mice"; mouse_fd = open (mdev, O_RDONLY);     why is the value of mouse_fd -1?
[09:49] <dr_willis> try that url DorianJaminais
[09:49] <GOMI> i have 2 things ,  nvidia x service center & monitor under control center ?!?   CAN IT CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER
[09:50] <dr_willis> i set the unity panel to never hide via ccsm.
[09:50] <DorianJaminais> dr_willis : ok
[09:50] <GOMI> because one says 75hz  other says 53 hz ?!?
[09:50] <dr_willis> GOMI:  with nvidia you just use the nvidia tools. not the other.
[09:51] <HektoR> can anyone help ?
[09:51] <dr_willis> i recall the monitors tool telling me to 'go use nvidia settigs instead'
[09:51] <wasanzy> ThinkT510: I deleted the swap partition and created new one 5GB and restarted the machine, but still the Hibernate is not showing
[09:51] <manojshenoy> hi
[09:51] <GOMI> dr_willis,  oke thnx.  well the monitors is seen as unknown and i cant get higher than 53hz
[09:51] <manojshenoy> which version
[09:52] <wasanzy> I got this error when I run swapon -a : swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=18f9de33-64ed-4cc8-9647-c89835e3e29a
[09:52] <llutz_> wasanzy:change /etc/fstab to the new uuid
[09:52] <llutz_> wasanzy: get it from "sudo blkid"
[09:52] <mage7> dr_willis: thanks for reply... tried still not hiding
[09:52] <dr_willis> wasanzy:  check the uuid of your swap parttion. and /etc/fstab
[09:52] <wasanzy> ok
[09:53] <Boreeas> Heh, does anyone know how I start minecraft on ubuntu?
[09:53] <dr_willis> i set the unity panel to never hide via ccsm.  mage7  in the  uity plugin
[09:53] <mage7> dr_willis: the problem usually goes away on a restart but ...i don't want to restart my computer everytime i the unity bar gets stuck
[09:53] <Boreeas> The runtime tells me that it isn't marked as executable
[09:54] <dr_willis> use the cli command the docs mention i recall Boreeas
[09:54] <scucci> Anyone have a spare minute to help me with an input issue? Wacom on 10.04, seeing button 2 in xev, but not working as right click. Yeah... just going to keep asking.
[09:54] <SSeTuu> hi i need help
[09:55] <mage7> ok anyway got to go now ..will come back later if problem doesn't go away when i am back..thanks for help
[09:55] <redguy> are there any special install options for natty on netboks?
[09:55] <dr_willis> redguy: not these days.
[09:55] <Boreeas> d_willis: cli command?
[09:55] <dr_willis> netbooks edition/desktop are same
[09:55] <dr_willis> Boreeas:  a terminal command..
[09:56] <dr_willis> java --jar foo.jar and a lot of other optios
[09:56] <redguy> dr_willis: any benefits of running the alterante install CD ?
[09:57] <dr_willis> redguy: it installs the same os.  just diff. installer
[09:58] <alaing> Hi, I'm trying to ftp .mov files from my windows 7 machine to my ubuntu server but it keeps failing. I can upload jpegs. I'm using vsftpd server on my ubuntu machine
[09:58] <redguy> thanks dr_willis
[09:58] <alaing> this is the error msg Wed Jul 27 10:37:42 2011 [pid 3] [MYUSER] FAIL UPLOAD: Client "192.168.123.125", "/var/www/albums/albums/videos/009.MOV", 0.00Kbyte/sec
[09:59] <alaing> error msg that vsftpd logged
[10:00] <jeff_> Boreeas.... Have you tried virtual machine??
[10:00] <Boreeas> jeff_: Not yet, but then I could as well just run it on windows
[10:01] <Boreeas> I still have it installed
[10:01] <jeff_> That's good.. I tried wine and didn't like it too much... Switched to VM and loved it...
[10:02] <mireya> hola
[10:02] <dr_willis> vm/wine for minecraft? it can run under sun java on ubuntu.
[10:02] <mireya> hola
[10:03] <codehotter> dr_willis: there is no such thing as sun java anymore - and are you sure it doesn't work under openjdk?
[10:03] <dr_willis> !java
[10:03] <amit__> hi
[10:03] <Colin969> Can I Get More Help?
[10:03] <amit__> Colin969, ask
[10:03] <Colin969> Universal USB Installer doesnt seem to find my Ubuntu Netbook 10.04 ISO
[10:03] <Colin969> It wont show.
[10:04] <Boreeas> Ah, I figured it out :P
[10:04] <Boreeas> I had to switch to the right directory first
[10:04] <fmauro> Colin969: you could use unetbootin
[10:04] <lonix> dr_willis: im my case it lags like a motherf* no matter what java
[10:04] <dr_willis> codehotter:  i see in here about oce a day people having issues with it and the icedtea gpl java. use the  other one
[10:04] <jeff_> Boreeas... :)
[10:04] <Colin969> Ok, I'll have a try fmauro
[10:04] <Boreeas> What is the Ubuntu equivalent of a .bat file?
[10:05] <lonix> Boreeas: .sh ?
[10:05] <dr_willis> i dont play it at all.  i just see it asked about in here way too much
[10:05] <th0r> Boreeas: a bash script
[10:05] <llutz_> Boreeas: any file containing commands
[10:05] <Boreeas> Alright
[10:05] <th0r> llutz: a script has to contain a bit more than commands
[10:06] <dr_willis> i have 'scripts' with just commands...
[10:06] <llutz_> th0r: no
[10:06] <dr_willis> i call them 'batch' files from the old days terms...
[10:06] <th0r> dr_willis: no #!/bin/sh? or is that considered a command?
[10:06] <SSeTuu> hello
[10:06] <SSeTuu> i have a problem
[10:06] <SSeTuu> with unity
[10:06] <Colin969> fmauro : What would Netbook 10.04 remix come under Version?
[10:06] <dr_willis> th0r:  it defaults to your shell
[10:07] <alaing> can someone help me with my ftp problem?
[10:07] <dr_willis> or just do    sh foo.batch
[10:07] <llutz_> th0r: a script doesn't need a shebang, even if its better to have one. you always can run it "bash foo"
[10:07] <fmauro> Colin969: I think you can just force the iso on the bottom. and ignore the top part
[10:07] <dr_willis> alaing:  why are you usig ftp anyway. why not ssh or samba
[10:08] <alaing> ssh as in using putty?
[10:08] <yuvateja> please any body know java chat rooms like IRC x-chat
[10:08] <dr_willis> or winscp....
[10:08] <Colin969> Oh. fmauro, Thanks, its just i got the Grub Error and need to fix it =/
[10:08] <dr_willis> alaing:  yes
[10:08] <alaing> dr_willis:  i tried winscp but it just never seemed to work
[10:09] <dr_willis> alaing:  works fine for me...
[10:09] <Colin969> fmauro : Would wiping my Ubuntu and Linux Swap partitions then installing Ubuntu over it fix GRUB and have a Ubuntu Fresh Install?
[10:09] <dr_willis> !ssh
[10:09] <alaing> theres something funny with my win7 setup O have another win xp machien which has not problems with putty and connecting to my server
[10:10] <dr_willis> soundas like firewall issues alaing
[10:10] <SSeTuu> i have a problem
[10:10] <SSeTuu> with unity
[10:10] <alaing> I can connect dr_willis
[10:10] <fmauro> Colin969: if you reinstall ubuntu from a liveDisc (usb or cd) and select the guided (full disk) option in ubiquity then, yes it would install grub too
[10:10] <junaidnaseer> hi there, hmmm, can anyone help me with, configuring evolution to sync only the last 30days mail from the server, when using imap, instead of downloading the entire 1000+ emails from the last 5 years ... thanks
[10:10] <altinn> can anyone help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11089527#post11089527
[10:10] <ThinkT510> Colin969: yes, but it sounds to me it would be easier just fixing grub
[10:10] <altinn> here is the output  http://pastebin.com/ys7d4fiy
[10:10] <alaing> ok example of my windows 7 failing
[10:10] <yuvateja> invoking shell commands from java.how i is possible?
[10:11] <Colin969> ThinkT510, I need to add some more memory to XP and I'd prefer not going through awkwardness
[10:11] <Colin969> ThinkT510, also, a fresh install could help me, i have a rediculous amount of useless apps xD
[10:11] <alaing> from my windows 7 machine i open putty connect to my ubuntu server. I do a ls it shows me me files but if I run "top" it just hangs
[10:11] <altinn> hello ?
[10:12] <alaing> but from my wino xp machien top shows me the processes as expected
[10:12] <ThinkT510> Colin969: ok
[10:12] <mistform> oh wow
[10:12] <mistform> :O
[10:12] <alaing> dr_willis:  i'm using vsftpd server
[10:12] <altinn> can anyone help me with this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11089527#post11089527
[10:13] <altinn> here is the output of the command http://pastebin.com/ys7d4fiy
[10:13] <dr_willis> alaing:  i dont use ftp servers any more. just ssh/scp these days.
[10:13] <alaing> dr_willis: check my other msgs what could cause my win7 machien to simple hand putty
[10:14] <dr_willis> altinn:  you could summarize the issue for us.
[10:14] <no-name-> what is the maximum amount of RAM for 32-bit AND 64-bit ubuntu?
[10:14] <alaing> with top comment
[10:14] <alaing> command
[10:14] <llutz_> no-name-: 3.2GB for 32bit without PAE
[10:14] <dr_willis> alaing:  no idea. i use ssh/putty/winscp from win7 all the time with no issues
[10:14] <altinn> dr_willis: i need help there is everything I have
[10:15] <alaing> dr_willis: would you mind helping me setup my connection??
[10:15] <alaing> prehaps theres somethign I've not down correctly thats causing it
[10:15] <Colin969> ThinkT510 : It keeps stopping with the line SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al. Help?
[10:16] <dr_willis> alaing:  i just install ssh server, and putty/winscp and often xming, i dont really setup anything special at all
[10:17] <Onyx47> altinn: the command that was posted in that thread should do all the work for itself, if it asks you for any configuration it will pop up for specific programs you might have installed, we can't know which ones they will be, run it and take it one step at the time, ask if you get stuck
[10:17] <ThinkT510> Colin969: what are you doing? booting a livecd/usb?
[10:17] <Colin969> ThinkT510 : USB
[10:17] <alaing> dr_willis: how do i check what ssh server I'm running?
[10:17] <ThinkT510> Colin969: sorry, i've never tried liveusb with ubuntu before
[10:18] <dr_willis> alaing:  the default one most people use is the openssh-server
[10:18] <Colin969> Can Someone Help
[10:18] <ikonia> Colin969: ask a question then
[10:18] <Colin969> The liveUSB Wont boot properly.
[10:18] <dr_willis> check in synaptic its installed
[10:19] <Colin969> ikonia I get - SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H.Peter Anvin et al.
[10:19] <ndlovu> anyone know how I can kill a process I started with nohup?
[10:20] <wildbat> ndlovu:  kill <pid>
[10:20] <ikonia> Colin969: how did you make the liveusb ?
[10:20] <Colin969>  ikonia - Yes
[10:20] <alaing> dr_willis: i just checked my process and noticed sshd one running with would be openssh-server right?
[10:20] <wasanzy> ThinkT510: hi
[10:20] <Colin969> ikonia - for my Acer Aspire One, its 10.04 Netbook Remix, used unetbootin
[10:21] <dr_willis> alaing:  if thats the one you installed..
[10:21] <Colin969> Brb
[10:21] <altinn> Onyx47: look I added something else http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11091064#post11091064
[10:21] <wasanzy> thanks for your help
[10:21] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: got hibernate working?
[10:21] <llutz_> alaing: "telnet localhost 22" to check what sshd runs
[10:22] <wasanzy> the Hibernate is showing now, but when you Hibernate, it dosen't save your previous session so to me, is just the same as shutting down completely
[10:22] <ndlovu> wildbat, if it was a shell script 'myscript.sh', would 'killall myscript.sh' work?
[10:22] <theadmin> ndlovu: No, you'd have to "killall bash" which is nonsense
[10:22] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: does it boot quicker than a cold boot?
[10:22] <dr_willis> alaing:  ssh -v localhost    tells version at top also..
[10:23] <Onyx47> altinn: wow, that's some serious dependency hell right there... were you upgrading from a relatively old release or something?
[10:23] <wildbat> ndlovu: why don't you execute and find out
[10:23] <wasanzy> it boots normal
[10:23] <ndlovu> theadmin, wildbat: "[1]+  Terminated              nohup ./myscript.sh"
[10:23] <ndlovu> seems to have worked
[10:23] <altinn> Onyx47: i just installed kubuntu 11.04 but from kubuntu channel nobody replies :S
[10:23] <theadmin> ndlovu: Hm, okay, I guess
[10:23] <theadmin> odd.
[10:24] <llutz_> dr_willis: it tells you the ssh-version of the client you're using
[10:24] <altinn> Onyx47: except one of them tried to help me but got clueless
[10:24] <dr_willis> how about -vvv then ;)
[10:24] <alaing> dr_willis:  Open SSH 5.8 but it says the connection refused
[10:25] <alaing> I was running those command from the server to the server
[10:25] <ikonia> alaing: no he didn't get clueless,
[10:25] <dr_willis> im sshing to my box from my phone then sshing into localhost... getting cofusing
[10:25] <wasanzy> you have any idea?
[10:25] <gmitrev> hi guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 and need to update my gtk+ version to 2.24 (its 2.22 now). how can i safely do this?
[10:25] <Python> Hi ikonia
[10:25] <lonix> altinn: your nickname scares me...
[10:25] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_(computing)
[10:26] <Onyx47> altinn: tbh, I have no idea how that happened... did you add any third party repositories?
[10:26] <wasanzy> ok will check that out
[10:26]  * Sidewinder1 Very often, finds himself in the zone of uncertainty. "-)
[10:26] <alaing> ikonia:  you lost me ?
[10:26] <dr_willis> alaing:  you cant ssh to yourself? you are doing this as a user
[10:26] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: if it's the same speed, i don't see the point in using it, it would just drain battery power
[10:26] <llutz_> wasanzy: check /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume  it has to contain the UUID of your swap
[10:26] <alaing> ok so i should run that command from my win 7 box to ubuntu box?
[10:27] <wasanzy> oh ok
[10:27] <llutz_> wasanzy: if you change that file, run "sudo update-initramfs -u" after
[10:28] <wasanzy> kk
[10:28] <alaing> it could be because i changed the default port 22 to 210
[10:28] <ikonia> alaing: what is the problem you are seeing - summary
[10:28] <alaing> it could be because i changed the default port 22 to 2120
[10:28] <dr_willis> alaing:  you must tell it the port to use then
[10:29] <dr_willis> ssh --help
[10:29] <llutz_> ssh -p 2120 ...
[10:29] <alaing> ikonia: I've always had issues tryign to send files between my win 7 machine and my ubuntu server. I have an win xp machien and not had any issues with it.
[10:30] <ikonia> alaing: what method are you using to send the files ?
[10:30] <gmitrev> im using ubuntu 10.10 and need to update my gtk+ version to 2.24 (its 2.22 now). how can i safely do this?	
[10:30] <alaing> ideally it would be ssh but i've now had to try ftp
[10:30] <ikonia> gmitrev: how do you plan to update?]
[10:31] <ikonia> alaing: what ssh client are you using on the windows 7 machine ?
[10:31] <dr_willis> if ssh and ftp are both flakey to the win7 box but xp works.. that sort of points to some networking issue with win7 i would think.
[10:31] <gmitrev> ikonia: thats what i want to know
[10:31] <ikonia> gmitrev: in that case you can't
[10:31] <alaing> putty and I'm just downloading winscp
[10:31] <gmitrev> ikonia: is it safe to download newer version from the gtk+ website and compile it
[10:31] <ikonia> no
[10:31] <gmitrev> or should i upgrade to ubuntu 11.04
[10:32] <theadmin> gmitrev: The best option is always a distro upgrade
[10:32] <ikonia> gmitrev: if possible use the distro that supports your package needs
[10:32] <gmitrev> theadmin: thanks
[10:32]  * theadmin uses a distro with all the latest software and doesn't see a reason to complain
[10:32] <alaing> ikonia putty and I'm just downloading winscp
[10:32] <ryuuzaki> distro upgrade may cause some problem
[10:32] <gmitrev> ikonia: i have some problems with 11.04 and thats why i sticked with 10.10
[10:32] <ferni> wasanzy: do you have your swap partition in /ect/crypttab with option swap? then it encrytps your swap with random key and hibernation does not work
[10:32] <ikonia> alaing: right, where is putting installed on your windows machine
[10:33] <gmitrev> but i guess i will have to upgrade the distro
[10:33] <ikonia> alaing: I assume c:\program file\putty
[10:33] <pwned> hi.
[10:34] <willuk> Is my laptop touchpad just broken, or is it a software issue? It is not disable and seems to get loaded on boot but it's not working at all. I have tried it on a live CD also with no results.
[10:34] <altinn> lonix: why dude :P ?
[10:34] <ikonia> alaing: do you want help, yes/no
[10:34] <alaing> ikonia:  yes please :)
[10:35] <ikonia> alaing: then answer the questions
[10:35] <alaing> ikonia: its in the program files folder as you thought
[10:35] <theadmin> willuk: Any success in other OSes/distros? Touchpad is an odd thing not to work
[10:35] <ikonia> alaing: right, next question. If you open putty can you ssh (not copy files, just ssh) to the machine you want to use ?
[10:35] <alaing> ikonia: just flicking between my machines
[10:36] <willuk> theadmin: I've loaded my laptop up on BT 5, debian based with no responce either :/
[10:36] <Furai`> New Thunderbird, wow. :)
[10:36] <alaing> ikonia: yes
[10:36] <theadmin> willuk: Could be a hardware issue then
[10:36] <Weazel> hey guys, here's a question, how do i know which eth number is the network card i have ?
[10:36] <Weazel> its not yet configured.
[10:36] <ikonia> alaing: ok, on the windows machine, open a command prompt (cmd.exe) and cd c:\program files\putty
[10:36] <alaing> ikonia: how ever if I run top it hangs
[10:36] <willuk> theadmin: I guess I'll just get a USB mouse then
[10:37] <theadmin> Weazel: ifconfig | grep "eth"?
[10:37] <frostschutz> Weazel: also dmesg | grep eth
[10:37] <Weazel> theadmin:  thanks
[10:37] <Weazel> frostschutz: thanks
[10:38] <theadmin> Weazel: Typically it's 0
[10:38] <Weazel> theadmin:  for some reason eth0 or eth1 doesn't work for me to get ping from the machine
[10:38] <alaing> ikonia:  ok next
[10:38] <theadmin> Weazel: And, usually the configuration is summed up by "ifconfig eth0 up ; dhcpd eth0", just saying
[10:39] <theadmin> Weazel: Err, dhcpcd, not dhcpd
[10:39] <n2i> Hi!
[10:39] <Weazel> theadmin:  its not set to dhcp its supposed to be static
[10:40] <wasanzy> ferni: No I don't even have any file like that
[10:40] <n2i> I have some trouble with Ubuntu 11.04, please help!
[10:40] <ikonia> alaing: if you do a dir in there, is there pscp.exe ?
[10:41] <theadmin> Weazel: Well then, "ip addr add your_ip/your_netmask dev eth0 ; ip route add default via your_gateway"
[10:41] <ThinkT510> n2i: to help you we need to know the problem
[10:41] <alaing> ikonia:  there is indeed a file called pscp.exe
[10:41] <Weazel> theadmin:  thanks a lot i'll try that
[10:42] <ikonia> alaing: ok, that is the binary you will use to test the connection/transfer
[10:42] <ikonia> alaing: the format is pscp c:\path_to_file user@linuxmachine:/where/you/want/to/put/it
[10:42] <theadmin> Weazel: Make sure you run those as root
[10:42] <theadmin> Weazel: i.e., "sudo -i" before trying
[10:42] <Weazel> theadmin:  yea i will thanks :D
[10:43] <alaing> ikonia: brb goign to try that
[10:43] <theadmin> Weazel: You might want to stop networkmanager first so it doesn't interfere if you're on the desktop version of Ubuntu
[10:44] <n2i> Ubuntu screen does not display nomarly after it gone to blank for inactive
[10:44] <Weazel> theadmin: yea its already stopped, its only a terminal machine no giui
[10:44] <Weazel> gui*
[10:44] <alaing> ikonia: wherey ou have @linuxmachine: shoudl I do @linuxmachine:2120 seeing as my port is on 2120
[10:44] <ikonia> alaing: no
[10:44] <alaing> ok
[10:44] <n2i> I got this problem in both Ubuntu and Ubuntu Classic mode
[10:44] <sveinse> Is there a way to make "charater map" only show the characters of the selected font?
[10:44] <ikonia> alaing: pscp -P 2120 c:\path_to_file user@linux:/target/location
[10:44] <alaing> ikonia:  so @linuxmachine:/var/www/videos
[10:45]  * theadmin hates the fact that netcfg is not present on Ubuntu
[10:45] <abhijain> how to update google chrome
[10:45] <theadmin> Would be sooo much easier to configure networks this way
[10:45] <n2i> It display cursor and nothing else, just like a blank screen
[10:46] <trijntje> abhijain: how did you install google chrome? If you installed it from the repository it will be updated automatically
[10:47] <dennda> In the US, starting what age are you eligible to rent a car? I'm 23.
[10:47] <dennda> (And German)
[10:47] <n2i> somebody can help me?
[10:47] <ThinkT510> dennda: thats offtopic
[10:47] <ThinkT510> !ot | dennda
[10:47] <abhijain> trijntje: i have version 5.0.375.29 beta
[10:47] <dennda> err
[10:47] <dennda> wrong channel, sorry
[10:48] <Colin969> Anyone know why my LiveUSB gives - SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al?
[10:48] <theadmin> Weazel: Write back if it worked (or if it didn't) and we'll dig along further if necessary
[10:48] <theadmin> Colin969: Cause you used unetbootin?
[10:48] <trijntje> abhijain: how did you install it?
[10:48] <Weazel> theadmin:  thanks a lot man, the guy that is near the machine need to call me back in a few minutes coz i don't have direct access to it but i will write thanks again for the help
[10:49] <ThinkT510> abhijain: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:49] <Colin969> theadmin - Yes, but Universal USB creator wont pick it up, and i cant force it
[10:49] <ikonia> Colin969: it didn't build correctly, re-build it
[10:49] <alaing> ikonia: ok its asking me for the users password
[10:49] <dr_willis> Colin969:  syslinux is installed and booting but either not configured right. ir crashing
[10:49] <abhijain> ThinkT510: 10.10
[10:49] <ikonia> alaing: put the users password in
[10:49] <theadmin> Colin969: I suggest LiLi USB Creator (if you're on Windows right now)
[10:49] <Colin969> theadmin - Right, ill try it
[10:49] <ThinkT510> abhijain: you could install chromium instead, that is in the repos
[10:50] <ThinkT510> !find chromium-browser | abhijain
[10:50] <alaing> ikonia: ok do i need to stick double quotes aroudn my directory because it has spaces in the folder name
[10:50] <dr_willis> pendrive linux site has like 6+ tools to make live usbs
[10:50] <HotHat> i want to know is lyhux.no-ip.org works
[10:50] <ikonia> alaing: that could help yes
[10:50] <ikonia> HotHat: they have a support contact on their website
[10:50] <alaing> ikonia been a while since i last used dos
[10:51] <abhijain> ThinkT510: i need only googlechrome actually i am exploring jolicloud and it works with some browser
[10:51] <theadmin> Weazel: No problem... Wish Ubuntu'd have netcfg :(
[10:51] <n2i> abhijain: should you using chrome ppa?
[10:52] <abhijain> n2i: yes
[10:52] <alaing> ikonia: ok file is transferring
[10:52] <ikonia> alaing: problem solved
[10:53] <sveinse> No one knows if you can make character map (gucharmap) only list the glyphs which are present inside the selected font?
[10:53] <alaing> so i should just use pscp from now on
[10:53] <ikonia> alaing: you have proved your client server setup works, you can use whatever client you want, however from this point on any issues will be with your windows client, and nothing to do with this channel
[10:54] <Savvy> ok i m here
[10:54] <sveinse> Or can someone suggest an application for listing the glyphs within a font?
[10:54] <wh1zz0> Hello everyone... Please how can I uninstall aptana totally. I tried using sudo apt-get --purge remove aptana but I get this error E: Unable to locate package aptana
[10:54] <theadmin> wh1zz0: How did you install it?
[10:55] <wh1zz0> theadmin:  using dpkg -i .db package
[10:55] <alaing> ikonia: thank you its just really strange how some commands work in putty and others dont. How do you transfer a whole direct
[10:56] <alaing> drectory
[10:56] <theadmin> wh1zz0: Remove it the same way then? dpkg -P aptana
[10:56] <ikonia> alaing: pscp -r
[10:56] <alaing> followed by the other bits right
[10:56] <ikonia> alaing: yes, pscp on it's own will give you it's flags
[10:56] <vlt> sveinse: I found gucharmap in my 10.10 default install.
[10:57] <wh1zz0> theadmin: dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching aptana
[10:57] <ikonia> wh1zz0: then that package is not installed
[10:57] <wh1zz0> But aptana still runs
[10:57] <ikonia> wh1zz0: then that is not the name of the package
[10:57] <NRKT_lamer> #ubuntu-ru
[10:57] <wh1zz0> I see the work space folder in my home dir
[10:57] <theadmin> wh1zz0: Well, check the package name
[10:57] <wh1zz0> Hmm..
[10:57] <llutz_> wh1zz0: dpkg -S $(which aptana)
[10:58] <GOMI> how many crashes do you get with 11.04
[10:58] <theadmin> NRKT_lamer: Надо набирать /join #ubuntu-ru
[10:58] <theadmin> GOMI: many.
[10:58] <ikonia> GOMI: are you having a problem ?
[10:58] <alaing> ikonia: I'm not sure if this is for this channel but if I connect using putty and then type top i nthe cmd line the cursor drops to the next line as if its going to run the program but nothing comes up I have to then terminate the putty session
[10:58] <ikonia> theadmin: please be objective
[10:58] <Sidewinder1> NRKT_lamer, I think you need the /join command with that.
[10:58] <progre55> hi guys. I've got a bunch of files with the following permissions, and not sure what the "T" means.. "-rw-rw-rwT"
[10:58] <ikonia> alaing: possibly your terminal session setup wrong
[10:58] <theadmin> ikonia: Sorry about that
[10:58] <GOMI> well it kicks me out to login screen every time , i dont know what causes that .
[10:58] <sveinse> vlt: unfortunately gucharmap displays glyphs from other fonts unless they are found in the selected font, which is what I dont need
[10:58] <progre55> cause they are jar files, and my mc is not unzipping the jars with T's
[10:59] <GOMI> i deleted compiz and some stuff but still the same
[10:59] <alaing> ikonia: I just use the default values
[10:59] <ikonia> alaing: that doesn't mean they are correct
[10:59] <electronics-cat> Hi there I was wondering where I could download the ubuntu swap partition, I already have the distribution disk so I don't need that part.
[10:59] <theadmin> progre55: Sticky bit
[11:00] <vlt> sveinse: Or write a small script: { for char in $(seq 1 65536); do echo "${char}: &#${char}<br />"; done } > some.html and use css to select a font-family. Didn't try this script.
[11:00] <ikonia> electronics-cat: you don't need to do that
[11:00] <wh1zz0> llutz_:  Just did that command .. and screen just went rolling down like it was searching for something
[11:00] <ikonia> electronics-cat: swap is created/populated at run time
[11:00] <ikonia> electronics-cat: it's different all the time,
[11:00] <ThinkT510> !swap | electronics-cat
[11:00] <electronics-cat> ok thanks
[11:00] <llutz_> wh1zz0: but you're sure te app running is called "aptana"?
[11:00] <ionite> can anyone help me?
[11:01] <wh1zz0> llutz_: yeah I even opened it
[11:01] <davesys> i have this issue here.. when i issue an apt-get command i get this msg Fetched 503 kB in 1min 29s (5,646 B/s) Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/gh.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[11:01] <progre55> theadmin: well, I guess that shouldn't be that important, right? I can just chmod it..
[11:01] <alaing> ikonia: thank you anyway much appreciated
[11:01] <theadmin> progre55: True
[11:01] <ikonia> alaing: welcome
[11:01] <adac> what can be the reason that ownership of subfolders of /opt/tomcat are not changed when executing this command as root user: chown -R tomcat:tomcat /opt/tomcat ?
[11:01] <progre55> theadmin: thanks
[11:01] <GOMI> after a crash i get these DOTS ...     http://imageshack.us/f/695/screenshotnbp.png       <--- tak a look
[11:01] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work
[11:01] <davesys> can't seem to be aboe to install new programs, do updates or upgrade
[11:01] <sveinse> vlt: Well. Except that the glyphs I'm looking for are in the extended section (i.e. outside the 16-bit range). I need to find a font which have these glyphs, except the gucharmap actually tricked me to believe a font had them...
[11:01] <wh1zz0> there are two folders in my home dir.. one is Aptana Studio 3
[11:01] <davesys> i am running 11.04 server
[11:01] <theadmin> progre55: chmod -t filename
[11:01] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work!  Please help me!!
[11:01] <wh1zz0> And the second is Aptana Workspace
[11:02] <progre55> theadmin: thanks again =)
[11:02] <GOMI> look at top left corner
[11:02] <idefix> camorama can't find my cam but there is a video0 in the dev dir
[11:02] <dpy> hi guys
[11:02] <vlt> sveinse: Then extend that script snippet.
[11:02] <theadmin> progre55: No problem
[11:03] <dpy> does anyone know what I must do in ubuntu to get it to tab-complete  /tmp/*.bar   to /tmp/foo.bar  (or a list of matches) ?
[11:03] <idefix> what's wrong with my PC why can't it access the webcam?
[11:03] <dpy> in Mandriva this always worked out of the box, but ubuntu seems mostly tailored to UI, and it is very rough when it comes to shell
[11:04] <EULUISM> No fan control in ubuntu
[11:04] <EULUISM> my labtop is in fire..
[11:04] <EULUISM> going back windows 7 :/
[11:04] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work!  Please help me!!
[11:04] <vlt> idefix: check "lsusb"
[11:04] <idefix> cheese can access my webcam, but other programs can't, why not?
[11:04] <vlt> EULUISM: Have fun.
[11:04] <truepurple> Does ubuntu have TRIM and other SSD friendly features?
[11:05] <ThinkT510> idefix: if cheese can, then vlc should be able to
[11:05] <EULUISM> vlt 2 bugs... no fan control, bug in the graphics acelleration with my new labtop with a i5..
[11:05] <idefix> what is vlc? that's the video program, isn't it?
[11:05] <theadmin> EULUISM: Bye-bye.
[11:05] <sveinse> I have selected english as language for menus and windows (in language support) and selected norwegian under "display numbers, dates and currency". However apt-get now suddenly displays norwegian messages, which is not what I want. How can I fix that?
[11:05] <wh1zz0> llutz_: Yea, I just checked it again
[11:05] <n2i> idefix: media player and more
[11:06] <ThinkT510> idefix: yes, as regards other programs for your cam they may be tryng to use a different driver
[11:06] <EULUISM> the new 11.04 need more ajustments...
[11:06] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work!  Please help me!!
[11:06] <idefix> ThinkT510 so how do I solve that?
[11:06] <EULUISM> I try a new one version later.. cya..
[11:06] <mrtadis> Hi, with GeForce2 MX200 my mouse cursor is able to get out of screen when screen resolution is not maximum, no such problem with GeForce4 MX440 in the same machine. Looks like it runs Nouveau, should it be the problem? :)
[11:06] <ThinkT510> idefix: sorry, not sure, i only use cheese and vlc
[11:06] <spacebug-> sveinse: try change to this in /etc/default/locale   LANGUAGE="en"  and LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
[11:07] <idefix> anybody else know it?
[11:08] <sveinse> spacebug: What is the difference between LANG and LANGUAGE ?
[11:09] <glebihan> idefix, could you tell me your original question ? I didn't see it
[11:09] <wh1zz0> Any help please?
[11:09] <n2i> sveinse: LANG is shorter :3
[11:10] <spacebug-> sveinse: I think LANG sets the default for all LC_* (where I have sv_SE) and language for the rest of the system to 'en' and also I want messages to be in 'en'
[11:10] <sveinse> n2i: My system has defined both LANG and LANGUAGE. With different languages...
[11:10] <sveinse> LANG="nb_NO.UTF-8"  and LANGUAGE="en_US:en"
[11:11] <GOMI> i read that linux mind debian is a good replacement for ubuntu  is that true
[11:11] <ikonia> linux mind debian ?
[11:11] <GOMI> mind= mint
[11:11] <theadmin> GOMI: It is, however, it's not ontopic here
[11:11] <ThinkT510> glebihan: he is trying to get his cam working, but it only works in cheese
[11:11] <GOMI> sory
[11:11] <ikonia> GOMI: just another distro
[11:11] <theadmin> ikonia: He/she/it means Linux Mint Debian Edition
[11:11] <carl_> Hi guys, I wanted to ask some things about banshee: I figured out why it wasn't playing music. I have a 1tb hard drive formatted to NTFS that doesn't auto mount on startup. I could reformat it but then I'd have to backup everything on it. I plugged my ipod touch in to recharge and banshee picks it up. Great! Then I can play the podcasts on it through the computer. Yet, it's only picking up two podcasts, and I have half a dozen, all diffe
[11:11] <carl_> rent shows. Not half a dozen of the same broadcast
[11:11] <GOMI> without many crashes and loss of work :p
[11:12] <spacebug-> sveinse: and you want LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
[11:12] <ikonia> GOMI: please don't be stupid
[11:12] <GOMI> sorry
[11:12] <wh1zz0> Any help please?
[11:12] <theadmin> ikonia: Hey he's not too bad :D Seen worse
[11:12] <ikonia> GOMI: crashes are caused by personal situations so in my case, "zero crashes", but my case has zero relevence to your sitaution
[11:12] <nit-wit> carl_, you might run a chkdsk on the hd if you have a windows setup
[11:13] <ikonia> GOMI: if you want help, explain the problem YOU are having and someone will try to help you if they can
[11:13] <GOMI> i know i know (-_-!) ubuntu ppl are harsh
[11:13] <ikonia> wh1zz0: please just stop saying "any help please" - we've spoke about this
[11:13] <ikonia> GOMI: no, people are not harsh, I just think you should stop wasting peoples time when you are in a channel that people give their time to help you
[11:13] <peter_felching> Hi all. I need help with eee's touchpad. I need a name of software, or maybe a config file that makes tapping and multitouch enabled out of box on regular ubuntu installation (I am composing my from barebones).
[11:13] <GOMI> thnx but i want to look for it first before i ask
[11:14] <davro> goof policia
[11:14] <truepurple>  Does ubuntu have TRIM and other SSD friendly features?
[11:14] <ikonia> theadmin: yesw
[11:14] <ikonia> yes
[11:14] <llutz_> wh1zz0: dpkg -l '*aptan*'
[11:15] <truepurple> ikonia, was that meant to be directed at me?
[11:15] <vlt> truepurple: I think that is kernel related. So propably yes.
[11:15] <ikonia> truepurple: and you've been told about cross posting in multiple ubuntu channels - this will be your final warning
[11:15] <ikonia> truepurple: yes, it has SSD trim support
[11:15] <th0r> peter_felching: you might try synclient
[11:15] <ikonia> truepurple: I believe 10.04 or 9.10 support was introduced
[11:15] <idefix> glebihan some programs cannot access my webcam, cheese can, but it's the only program, what's wrong?
[11:15] <peter_felching> th0r, thanks,
[11:15] <truepurple> ikonia, may I please speak to you about your strange complaint?
[11:16] <ikonia> truepurple: no
[11:16] <truepurple> then since I dont know what you are talking about, I will just disregard
[11:16] <ikonia> truepurple: please do not post the same question in multiple ubuntu channels
[11:16] <ikonia> truepurple: that should explain it to you clearly
[11:16] <truepurple> I posted it in a channel, noone know/was there
[11:16] <Karma_Law> how can i install the latest version of wine? no version of repositories, latest version officia
[11:17] <nit-wit> truepurple, your acting dumb and do a graet job of it.
[11:17] <peter_felching> th0r, nope, I've already have it on board.
[11:17] <theadmin> *multiple* Ubuntu channels? I thought Ubuntu has just #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1
[11:17] <ThinkT510> !latest | Karma_Law
[11:17] <ikonia> truepurple: the question was posted at the same time in different ubuntu channels
[11:17] <theadmin> Karma_Law: Look at winehq.org for instructions.
[11:17] <truepurple> ikonia, can you show me a rule against asking in another channel if noone knows in the channel you are asking in?
[11:17] <Karma_Law> theadmin, i use debian, not ubuntu
[11:17] <Karma_Law> :S
[11:17] <th0r> peter_felching: yes, I suspected it might be installed. But have you looked at the man page?
[11:17] <theadmin> Karma_Law: Um, wrong place then
[11:17] <ikonia> truepurple: it's in the IRC guidelines about not cross posting
[11:17] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work!  Please help me!!
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> theadmin, There's also #ubuntu-beginners.
[11:18] <theadmin> Sidewinder1: Oh.
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[11:18] <truepurple> ikonia, can you point me there so I can examine the wording of what you are talking about?
[11:18] <ikonia> truepurple: read the IRC guidelines
[11:18] <bazhang> !crosspost > truepurple
[11:18] <ikonia> truepurple: they are in the topic also
[11:18] <bazhang> Karma_Law, #debian for debian support
[11:19] <carl_> nit-wit: I didn't have windows on it, it was just a data drive. I'd love ext4 on it, but really, I don't see the point. I don't want to loose my data. Anyway, it works fine when it's mounted (is there an option to mount it as ubuntu starts up? I want it to switch off after a minute of idle time though, as I like my computer being silent). What I'm trying to figure out is why will banshee show only some of the podcasts on the ipod, and no
[11:19] <carl_> t all of them.
[11:19] <ikonia> truepurple: and if it helps - I'm asking you not to do it please.
[11:19] <nit-wit> carl_, fstab
[11:19] <theadmin> !fstab | carl_
[11:19] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work!  Please help me!!
[11:20] <Colin969> theadmin - My ISO was corrupt apparently, letting LiLi Download a new one, Thanks.
[11:20] <nit-wit> carl_, I just suggested a chkdsk as it is a ntfs it has to be fragmeneted that is the problem, probably
[11:20] <theadmin> Colin969: np
[11:20] <truepurple> ikonia, I am trying a new client, xchat, and I am having trouble finding your PM
[11:20] <peter_felching> I've realized something. On gdm screen taping seems to work, but after longing into gnome3 session it doesn't anymore.
[11:20] <vlt> ikonia: From #ubuntu-beginner's /topic: "Nobody around? Try asking in #ubuntu"
[11:21] <ThinkT510> truepurple: to the left with the channels
[11:21] <ikonia> truepurple: I didn't send you a pm
[11:21] <ikonia> vlt: people where around
[11:21] <truepurple> I only see the channels
[11:21] <bazhang> !crosspost | truepurple here
[11:21] <vlt> ikonia: Ok, I just wanted you to know.
[11:22] <truepurple> ikonia, I waited awhile, one person replied, didn't know anything about the subject, I came here, while I was talking about this in here, someone who know something replied
[11:22] <ikonia> vlt: thank you
[11:22] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work!  Please help me!!
[11:22] <carl_> You know, fragmentation is an issue I never bother with. I figure that with regular OS reinstalls, that solves the fragmentation issues. All I have on the hard drive is movies, shows, music and some documents. Is fragmentation an issue? I don't get gaps in my videos
[11:22] <nit-wit> yes
[11:23] <theadmin> carl_: All it does is decreasing read speed
[11:23] <nit-wit> carl_, take a look at the hd with gparted hit information a right click on the partition
[11:23] <ikonia> truepurple: that's not true - stop arguing it and please stop cross-posting, thank you
[11:23] <hagus> I activated my driver - and all went well.  My problem is that there is now a bunch of biggish icons running down the left handside and the system settings menu has disappeared from the top of the screen.
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> carl_, Fragmentation can cause major problems with shrinking/enlarging NTFS partitions.
[11:24] <carl_> Hmm. I guess I ought to back up. That's going to need some swapping of computers. I guess I'll stick another hard drive in, back stuff up and use a journaling file system. I take it ext4 is the one to use?
[11:25] <glebihan> hagus, I would guess you used to use Gnome and are now using Unity
[11:25] <ThinkT510> carl_: your choice of filesystem depend on what it is used for
[11:25] <nit-wit> carl_, yeah a ext type partiton=no fragmentation worries. ;)
[11:25] <theadmin> carl_: Normally yes, unless you need to worry about compatibility with old Linux systems
[11:25] <Sidewinder1> carl_, ext4 is the latest version; I'm currently using ext3 with no issues.
[11:25] <glebihan> hagus, to get back to Gnome, select "Ubuntu Classic" as the session in the login screen
[11:25] <hagus> glebihan - your guess makes sense to me - but how do I get gnome back, then?
[11:26] <hagus> thanks
[11:26] <glebihan> hagus, you're welcome
[11:26] <hagus> ubuntu class
[11:26] <hagus> classic
[11:26] <hagus> sorry
[11:26]  * hagus is all thumbs
[11:26] <alfonso> holaaaaaaaa
[11:26] <alfonso> donde estoy?
[11:26] <glebihan> !es | alfonso
[11:27] <alfonso> yo entiendo ingles.
[11:27] <evo4360bhp> Anyone running 11.10 w/out issues?
[11:27] <wh1zz0> sudo apt-get dropbox
[11:27] <theadmin> Why are there so many spanish people around anyway? Like, way more than Russian, or Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Finnish, any others...
[11:27] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | evo4360bhp
[11:27] <bazhang> theadmin, lets stay on topic please
[11:27] <theadmin> bazhang: Yeah I know, just wondered, heh
[11:27] <evo4360bhp> :)
[11:28] <ikonia> wh1zz0: that won't work
[11:28] <theadmin> wh1zz0: That's not Gentoo, and apt-get is not emerge
[11:29] <theadmin> wh1zz0: It's "apt-get install dropbox"
[11:29] <theadmin> wh1zz0: That, and I don't think we have that in the repos
[11:29] <carl_> Ahh, alright then. I'll stick in another NFTS partition. They have similar data on them already. And at least the file manager makes skipping over existing files easy. Then when it's reformatted as EXT4, it'll just mount at startup. What's the program that edits hard drive options so they spin down after a preset time?
[11:30] <midasjohn> hello gang - this is the first time I ever used IRC and that is totally weird because I am a Vet of Computing since 1985 :p
[11:30] <dattebayo> hey guys what is the best program for recovery that supports  NTFS and ext4 and ,etc
[11:30] <ikonia> theadmin: there is a 3rd party package for it, although based on the results someone had with it a few days ago, not sure how comfy I'd be suggesting it
[11:30] <midasjohn> Also embraced Ubuntu 11.04 and I will NEVER go back to Windows!
[11:30] <vlt> !ot | midasjohn
[11:30] <theadmin> dattebayo: testdisk
[11:30] <ThinkT510> !yay | midasjohn
[11:30] <nit-wit> dattebayo, recovery can be done with a live cd, if the partitons are still there.
[11:31] <nit-wit> *partitions
[11:31] <n2i> I have a partition which is formated as ext4 and I have a problem with it.
[11:31] <sipior> n2i: namely?
[11:31] <dattebayo> what about bad sector?
[11:32] <n2i> Write date speed is very slow
[11:32] <VxQe> badsectors are a physical fault with the hard disk, you can't solve that with software.
[11:32] <nit-wit> dattebayo, pull out waht you can then use testdisk
[11:32] <n2i> ~ 1MB/sec
[11:33] <b0ba> Hi ! Anybody who is familiar with GRUB and software raids can help to solve issue ? Ubuntu server is 11.04, 2 partitions on each hdd, one is root, second swap in both is RAID1 mode. After reboot i have got "invalid arch independent elf magic" in GRUB. Ubuntu 9.04 works fine in the same config.
[11:33] <fladd> hi there
[11:33] <midasjohn> wicked, laters, out
[11:33] <Benkinooby> hi, is there a difference in the resulting ubuntu install, when installing from CD or usb or when installing from windows(wubi)? my task: i have a friend with an elderly laptop, running windows (vista or xp - not sure) and he wants ubuntu. no i have to decide wether to go with the more "risky" cd/usb isntall or go with the safer(?) wubi install.
[11:33] <n2i> Anyone help me to figure what is that problem?
[11:34] <fladd> how can I stop ubuntu to open folders from "Places" in Firefox instead of Nautilus? It does this since the update to Natty
[11:34] <Benkinooby> n2i, try to play aorund with your hard disk modes in bios
[11:34] <VxQe> n2i: how are you determining that metric?
[11:34] <theadmin> Benkinooby: Use a normal install
[11:34] <theadmin> Benkinooby: WUBI is slower and buggier and can't hibernate
[11:34] <VxQe> And what are you comaring it to?
[11:34] <wh1zz0> Okie for anyone having the same issue.. here's the solution to fully uninstall aptana. http://www.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Tips_and_Tricks#Repair_your_Aptana_installation
[11:34] <n2i> VxQe: copy and paste some data
[11:34] <Benkinooby> n2i, i once had the problem that my "writes" on the hard disk randomly stoped until i pressed a random key... haver changing the bios settings everything was fine
[11:35] <VxQe> n2i: from where to where?
[11:35] <n2i> It is mounted as /media/DATA
[11:35] <Benkinooby> n2i, is it connected via usb?
[11:35] <n2i> VxQe: from every where to there
[11:36] <n2i> Benkinooby: No, this is main HDD
[11:36] <theadmin> Weazel: Well, any results?
[11:36] <Weazel> theadmin just finished with him on th ephone right now, it worked like acharm thanks a lot it was eth 1 at the end
[11:36] <n2i> but every thing is nomarly with /HOME
[11:37] <Benkinooby> n2i, ok, try changing the bios settings... if it does not work just change them back again... for me, bios changes worked
[11:37] <n2i> which is on same HDD and formated with ext4
[11:37] <theadmin> Weazel: :) GLaD I helped.
[11:37] <Mrokii> Hi. Can somebody recommend a good software-news site for Ubuntu? I mean, where new versions or new apps are presented.
[11:37] <ikonia> Mrokii: ubuntu.com
[11:37] <Weazel> theadmin:  thanks to u I thought with portals :D
[11:37] <jrib> Mrokii: planet.ubuntu.com maybe...
[11:38] <n2i> Benkinooby: Which is should I change to?
[11:38] <Benkinooby> theadmin, oh... i see... wubi installs ubuntu inside(!) windows ... on the same partiton.... ok thanks!
[11:38] <glebihan> fladd: does it have the same behaviour when you double-click a folder from nautilus ?
[11:38] <VxQe> It isn't likely that a bios setting will drop your hard disk speed below 1MB/s
[11:39] <Mrokii> ikonia: Where? Do they have a section for apps from other devs?
[11:39] <n2i> VxQe: yes, I think so
[11:39] <ikonia> Mrokii: new apps don't get released in between versions as you suggest
[11:39] <Benkinooby> n2i, there are like 3 main bios producers, so i can't give you a step-by-step guide... look out for everything that looks like hard disk, hard disk controller, ide/sata/scsi or like that and roam around in the menus... if i recall correctly there are different modes for hard drives like PIO and D-something-something.... just look around... bios does nto have too many nemus ;)
[11:40] <VxQe> n2i: do you dual boot at all?
[11:40] <VxQe> Is it just one partition on the disk
[11:40] <VxQe> or all?
[11:40] <n2i> Benkinooby: Thank you, I'll try it later
[11:41] <n2i> VxQe: yes, Ubuntu dual boot with Win7
[11:41] <fladd> glebihan, no, only from the gnome panel. Also, when opening downloaded pdfs from the firefox download window, they open in firefox, instead of the proper application as before
[11:41] <abc_dallas> list
[11:41] <Benkinooby> n2i, yeah... no rush... i see you are talking about dual boot: windows, if there some write errors occur, changes the mode of the hard disk... so if you use windows, and suddely ubuntu gets slow while there is no change for windows, i really would check out the bios
[11:41] <Sidewinder1> Mrokii, Also if you using 11.04, there's PPAs.
[11:42] <Sidewinder1> !ppa > Mrokii
[11:42] <Mrokii> Sidewinder1: The problem is to *know* what's out there.
[11:42] <Sidewinder1> Mrokii, I understand.
[11:42] <n2i> uhhu
[11:43] <abc_dallas> i got Ubuntu installed yest & its amazing how my operating system is actually doing what i told it to do (11.04)
[11:43] <Sidewinder1> Mrokii, One could spend hours browsing through Synaptic Package Manager.
[11:43] <Benkinooby> n2i, i don't know what hardware you use... but look at this google search http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=windows+hard+disk+mode+ubunut#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=windows+hard+disk+mode+ubuntu+pio&pbx=1&oq=windows+hard+disk+mode+ubuntu+pio&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=18449l19383l0l19607l4l3l0l0l0l0l294l690l0.1.2l3&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=f47635babc3f58f6&biw=1334&bih=869
[11:43] <n2i> And what about if I disable auto mount it at boot from fstab?
[11:43] <theadmin> !google | Benkinooby
[11:43] <Mrokii> Sidewinder1: Yeah, and a lot of what is in there is totally irrelevant to me.
[11:44] <Sidewinder1> Mrokii, There are tens of thousands of programs there to install.
[11:44] <n2i> Benkinooby: hi, thanks! But I cannot browse the web now
[11:44] <chenthu> abc_dallas : how did u do that...i have been trying to install my 11.04 for the mast 76 hrs but in vain
[11:44] <Benkinooby> theadmin, i think you are missunderstanding me... i was not redirecting him to google in a "RTFM" way... i was merly showing him results supporting my thesis, so that he can read some of them to see if my thesis applies to his problem
[11:45] <nit-wit> chenthu, what are the problems you're having?
[11:45] <Sidewinder1> Mrokii, If you're looking for something specific, ask here or ubuntuforums.org; most times you'll get several possibilities to try. :-)
[11:46] <Benkinooby> n2i, do you have commadn line access to your trouble computer?
[11:46] <abc_dallas> I just got installed. Everything works gr8. Thank you admin for your help & for open Op Sys
[11:46] <n2i> Benkinooby: I'm using it
[11:46] <Benkinooby> To see if what DMA mode is used, run hdparm -i /dev/sda /dev/sdb, there'll be a * next to the mode being used.
[11:46] <Benkinooby> To see if what DMA mode is used, run hdparm -i /dev/sda /dev/sdb, there'll be a * next to the mode being used. n2i
[11:47] <chenthu> nit_wit: grpahics problem using normal download.....black screen problem using alternate download...same graphics pronlem using 10.04
[11:48] <Mrokii> Sidewinder1: I guess that's the only way to find out about a specific app then.
[11:48]  * dpy is in heaven, the key to success: rm -fffff /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh
[11:48] <Sidewinder1> Mrokii, It's the best way that I have found.
[11:48] <n2i> There is something like this: UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
[11:48] <Mrokii> jribas: I rather look for a site that concentrates on software-releases, but I guess that isn't available.
[11:49] <Benkinooby> n2i, ok
[11:50] <chenthu> nit-wit: you there?
[11:50] <nit-wit> yeah chenthu
[11:50] <chenthu> u read my problems?
[11:51] <nit-wit> hold on
[11:51] <Benkinooby> n2i, go to the bios, change to PIO mode and see if things get better
[11:51] <chenthu> ok
[11:51] <Benkinooby> n2i, test the change of behavior for windows and ubuntu
[11:51] <nit-wit> chenthu, do you know your graphic card
[11:52] <Benkinooby> n2i, generally pio is slower than dma.... but it might work for you
[11:52] <Benkinooby> worked for me though ;P
[11:52] <chenthu> nit-wit: yeah....Nvidia Geforce 6150 Go..........very old though
[11:53] <nit-wit> chenthu, have you tried a low graphic boot with a love cd
[11:53] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work!  Please help me!!
[11:53] <nit-wit> *live opps
[11:53] <nit-wit> oops
[11:53] <Benkinooby> n2i, if it does not work i am out of advice, because your system is at udma6... the fastest mode
[11:53] <theadmin> lol @ "love cd"
[11:53] <chenthu> nit-wit: yeah i did....i never worked....Live usb though
[11:53] <n2i> chenthu ~ che'n thu`? :3
[11:53] <nit-wit> i't late her 5am
[11:53] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work!  Please help me!!
[11:54] <chenthu> n2i :?
[11:54] <n2i> Benkinooby: ok
[11:54] <nit-wit> chenthu, how did you try the low graphic?
[11:54]  * Benkinooby looks for trademarks on love cd :P
[11:54] <n2i> chenthu: oh, nothing, just a joking.
[11:55] <chenthu> i went to the cli method, then tried f4 then something else...nothing worked
[11:55] <chenthu> n2i: i thought u were lookin to pronounce my name
[11:55] <n2i> Benkinooby: Thanks and see you later!
[11:55] <n2i> chenthu: yes :D
[11:55] <Benkinooby> n2i, yeah
[11:56] <chenthu> n2i: yeah
[11:56] <Kartagis> tt
[11:56] <Benkinooby> chenthu = pronounce gentoo with a cold
[11:56] <chenthu> nit-wit: any idea?
[11:56] <nit-wit> chenthu, Did you use the f6 prompt with the live cd to choose nomodeset?
[11:56] <chenthu> Benkinooby : Yeah you could do that....lol
[11:57] <chenthu> nit-wit :yeah i tried that
[11:57] <adzy> anyone know how I change my ubuntu computer name?
[11:57] <vlt> adzy: /etc/hostname
[11:57] <llutz_> !hostname | adzy:
[11:58] <chenthu> nit-wit: using alternate download and complex installing method i installed 11.04 but now i get 4 errors and a black screen after login
[11:58] <alba-andy> guys, random question but im sure you wont hold that against me... How do I setup web forwarding without using a subdomain. i would like email.mysite.com to redirect to google mail apps page but the idiot registrar is wanting to charge me for adding a subdomain. can i do it with A or CNAME records?
[11:58] <ikonia> alba-andy: that's not an ubuntu question, so we don't support it
[11:58] <ikonia> alba-andy: try #dns
[11:58] <alba-andy> ah thanks
[11:59] <alba-andy> too hard for yous?
[11:59] <codehotter> alba-andy: psst, you should have said you were hosting your domain on ubuntu server!
[11:59] <chenthu> nit-wit: do u know how to scan network  through a wireless card using terminal?
[11:59] <alba-andy> lol
[11:59] <codehotter> never mind, with your last comment I have lost any interest in helping you.
[11:59] <alba-andy> damn, should have
[12:00] <nit-wit> chenthu, Ah at the bootscreen hit e for edit and replace aat the end of the first kernel wher it say no splash put in nomodeset and hit crtl_-x to boot then if in look at this link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745940
[12:00] <nit-wit> *crtl-x
[12:00] <Joe5848> hail !
[12:00] <hateball> chenthu: iwlist
[12:02] <chenthu> hateball: i tried but says " No scan results"
[12:02] <Colin969> theadmin , You on?
[12:02] <theadmin> Colin969: Am.
[12:02] <Colin969> theadmin , Why does LinuxLive install Virtual Box?
[12:02] <theadmin> Colin969: You probably ticked "Run LiveUSB after creation"
[12:03] <Colin969> theadmin , It said enable Linux Live in windows....oh.
[12:03] <hateball> chenthu: you have to supply it with options, like "iwlist scan" it's in the manpage for iwlist. also, make sure your wifi modules/firmware is actually loaded :)
[12:03] <Colin969> theadmin, I think its frozen on that part too, would forcing the application to shut down be fine, or corrupt the entire thing?
[12:04] <chenthu> hateball; i just installed and activated my b43 driver i even verified that...but still no reslut using the command
[12:04] <theadmin> Colin969: It's fine, just recreate the USB when done with that... I suppose.
[12:04] <nit-wit> chenthu, does the adding nomodeset to the kernel make sense, you need a low graphic bot to install the correct driver as in the link.
[12:04] <nit-wit> *boot
[12:05] <Colin969> theadmin, But will i have to go through it all again, or....ill just try.
[12:05] <theadmin> Colin969: I always use dd to create my liveusbs anyhow so...
[12:05] <n2i> I have disabled auto mount the that partition in fstab, and every thing seem ok
[12:06] <chenthu> nit-wit: yeah i got the link just rebooting to do that...i was actually working on a command line solution...but now that you have given me the link for the exact problem...i am trying that...thank you very much ....will post the result
[12:07] <nit-wit> chenthu, the key with the nvidia card is the nomodeset to be run on the install than the first boot to get you in. ;)   no prblem for the help.
[12:07] <nit-wit> *then
[12:08] <dr_willis> nit-wit:  i will mention that with the alpha release. i havent had to use nomodeset on my nvidia systems to get them to install. :) so its improveing..
[12:08] <chenthu> nit-wit: u mean i have to use the option while installing?...and not while booting after install?
[12:08]  * alba-andy isnt allowed fascetious
[12:09]  * alba-andy to be fascetious
[12:09] <nit-wit> dr_willis, cool that is a method I have seen often, so with a black screen it seemed a appropriate method to try. ;)
[12:09] <dr_willis> chenthu:  i had to do it while installing, and on the first boot. untill i got the nvidia drivers going. i DID notice once that installing using nomodeset some how added the option to the default grub /etc/default/grub file.
[12:09] <Dougie187> Does anyone know why the panel applets continuously ask to be deleted on login within 11.04 ubuntu classic?
[12:09] <dr_willis> brb
[12:10] <ionite> After my Natty set up.  The boot screen turned black!  I tried NOMODESET and i tried gfxpayload=text.  Both doesn't work!  Please help me!!
[12:10] <nit-wit> chenthu, as dr_willls confirmed at times nomodeset is run at install and the first bbot in.
[12:11] <chenthu> dr_willis : u talk about installing natty narwhal
[12:11] <ionite> how can i get past the black screen on my first boot in?
[12:11] <chenthu> taloking?
[12:11] <chenthu> talking*?
[12:12] <ionite> can anyone help me with my blank screen?
[12:12] <Benkinooby> ionite, black or blank?
[12:12] <pr0ton_> hello
[12:13] <pr0ton_> this crontab should run every minute right?
[12:13] <pr0ton_> 1 * * * * echo 'hello world' >> ~/b.txt
[12:13] <ionite> black then the LCD power light blinks
[12:13] <pr0ton_> and append, 'hello world' to ~/b.txt
[12:13] <phper_> hello
[12:13] <pr0ton_> but for the past few mins, nothing has been added to the file
[12:13] <cromag> pr0ton_: might be missing full path to echo
[12:13] <nokko> nice
[12:13] <phper_> What someone needs to learn better system administration and networking of pcs?
[12:13] <theadmin> progre55: Right.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[12:13] <ionite> How can i solve the blank screen in my first boot in?
[12:14] <nokko> hi there
[12:14] <Dougie187> is there any particular reason panel apps asked to be deleted?
[12:14] <pr0ton_> cromag, i changed it to $HOME/b.txt
[12:14] <Benkinooby> ionite, hm... sounds liek something more serious... like hardware dirver or something liek this... can'T help you, i am no pro
[12:14] <n2i> ionite: yeah, it look like after my monitor sleep
[12:14] <theadmin> pr0ton_: Meant to be to you
[12:14] <pr0ton_> let me wait a min and check it out
[12:14] <hagus> Thanks for the help glebihan - things worked for me exactly as you predicted :)
[12:14] <pr0ton_> theadmin
[12:14] <pr0ton_> ok
[12:14] <theadmin> pr0ton_: It's right, but you should really put the command(s) in a script and execute that script with cron
[12:14] <cromag> pr0ton_: and /usr/bin/echo or whereever the program is.
[12:14] <theadmin> pr0ton_: cron is not a shell, it won't handle the >> thing
[12:14] <pr0ton_> cromag, oh
[12:14] <nokko> got a question, can someone please help?
[12:14] <pr0ton_> theadmin, i think it does http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/cron/
[12:15] <ionite> n2i: u got the same prob now too?
[12:15] <nit-wit> ionite, hit e for edit at the boot menu and put nomodeset at the end of the kernel where it says no splash
[12:15] <theadmin> cromag: should be /bin/echo
[12:15] <n2i> ionite: I'm not sure!
[12:15] <ionite> i tried it didn't work
[12:15] <nit-wit> ionite, if you get in then look for the graphic card drivers
[12:15] <ionite> nit-wit: i tried and it didn't work
[12:15] <Benkinooby> n2i, so how did things go?
[12:16] <cromag> theadmin: you are most likely right - didnt check - and didnt remember :)
[12:16] <Benkinooby> ionite, did you use this jack-something-somethign software?
[12:16] <bastidrazor> Dougie187: when they fail to load at login. normally there is another issue that causes this.
[12:16] <n2i> I  havent got it at bootup but after monitor goes to sleep when inactive
[12:16] <nokko> i will go get some dinner first and brb.
[12:16] <nit-wit> ionite, did you hit crtl-x to boot when you did?
[12:16] <pr0ton_> cromag, theadmin so i can write a bash script like, x.sh
[12:16] <Dougie187> bastidrazor: any idea what the issue could be? I've been trying to figure it out for weeks now, but I haven't had any luck.
[12:16] <cromag> pr0ton_: and run that - yes.
[12:16] <Dougie187> It's also not consistent
[12:16] <pr0ton_> and then run it like bash /location/to/x.sh
[12:16] <pr0ton_> right?
[12:17] <cromag> pr0ton_: you might need /bin/bash but yes
[12:17] <bastidrazor> Dougie187: look in ~/.xsession-errors  there may be hints in there.
[12:17] <n2i> Benkinooby: I have disabled auto mount it at boot up from fstab, and every thing seem ok
[12:17] <theadmin> cromag: Well it's needed for the boot process and thus must be on the same partition as /, and many put /usr on a separate partition so
[12:17] <Benkinooby> n2i, so the automount changed the write speed?!
[12:18] <ionite> nitwit: i pressed ctrl+X
[12:18] <cromag> theadmin: hmm good thout - never thought of it that way.
[12:18] <n2i> Benkinooby: yes, I think so
[12:18] <ionite> benkinnoby: i used Unetbootin
[12:18] <nit-wit> ionite, what is the graphic card would probably help, for others to see to help
[12:18] <ionite> nitwit: ro quiet spalsh nomodeset and i pressed ctrl + X
[12:19] <Colin969> theadmin , Linux Live keeps randomly....stopping
[12:19] <Benkinooby> n2i, that really surprises me... i can not imagine that the automount got to do with the speed...
[12:19] <Benkinooby> n2i, did you measure the speed increas
[12:19] <nit-wit> ionite, not an area I'm real familiar with beyond the nomodeset for me
[12:19] <Benkinooby> increase?
[12:19] <n2i> Benkinooby: yes
[12:19] <Colin969> theadmin, Its not shifting from 96%
[12:19] <n2i> ~40MB/sec
[12:20] <pr0ton_> cromag, theadmin two minutes have elapsed and nothing on the file
[12:20] <amit__> hiii
[12:20] <ionite> i kinda regret d/l natty now that it's not even booting into mainframe and the darn blank screen
[12:20] <pr0ton_> pratik@pratik-laptop:~/flatto$ crontab -l
[12:20] <pr0ton_> # m h  dom mon dow   command
[12:20] <pr0ton_> 1 * * * * /bin/echo 'hello world' >> $HOME/b.txt 2>&1
[12:20] <amit__> I typed sudo ufw enable many times.. but it is always off at startup.. I also added ufw as command and name in startup applications , any way to let firewall start at startup
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> ionite: does nomodeset not help?
[12:20] <ionite> nomodeset doesn't help at all.
[12:20] <Colin969> Anyone familiar with LinuxLive?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> ionite: what video chip do you use?
[12:21] <ionite> inserted 'nomodeset' after 'ro quiet splash' and it doesn't work
[12:21] <Pici> pr0ton_: That will only run at 1 minute past the hour.
[12:21] <ionite> actionparsnip: GeForce Tornado 5500
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> ionite: try:   nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:21] <theadmin> Colin969: Odd.
[12:21] <Benkinooby> n2i, good thing.. i learend something and your prob is solved :D
[12:21] <theadmin> Colin969: Bad hardware? Not enough space? who knows...
[12:21] <pr0ton> Pici, meaning?
[12:21] <ionite> actionparsnip: where do i insert this line?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> ionite: its a boot option
[12:22] <Colin969> theadmin , Its the same USB i used the first time...
[12:22] <n2i> Benkinooby: :)
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | Colin969
[12:22] <Pici> pr0ton: Meaning it'll run at 08:01, 09:01, 10:01 etc.  If you want it to run at every minute for testing, change the 1 to a *
[12:22] <pr0ton> what if i want it to run every 10 minutes?
[12:22] <cromag> isnt it 10/ ?
[12:22] <Pici> pr0ton: */10 * * * *
[12:22] <cromag> ah yes
[12:22] <Colin969> theadmin Ive gtg to my friends, ill try it there
[12:22] <ionite> actionparsnip: u mean that i type in "nouveau.blacklist=1' after boot option?
[12:22] <pr0ton> Pici, thanks
[12:23] <pr0ton> so */1 also works for every 1 minute?
[12:23] <Colin969> theadmin OH ITS SHIFTING
[12:23] <Pici> pr0ton: It does.
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> ionite: yes, the way to add boot options is always the same
[12:23] <pr0ton> Pici,  it works now :) thanks a ton :)
[12:23] <Pici> pr0ton: great :)
[12:24] <Colin969> theadmin, Seems to be done, will test in a sec! Thanks!
[12:24] <ionite> actionparsnip: where can boot option be found?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> ionite: some chips don't like nouveau, the option will force your OS to use nv which works well. You can then get updates to get a nicer nouveau driver version or install the proprietary
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> ionite: how do you mean? If you mean APPLY it then it's the same way you added nomodeset
[12:25] <ionite> u mean i insert nouveau.blacklist=1 after 'ro quiet splash nomodeset'?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> ionite: sounds fine, i don't think you will need nomodeset though
[12:25] <ionite> let me try now
[12:26] <theadmin> Colin969: No problem
[12:27] <haocn> haocn
[12:27] <MaK10> hey every1
[12:27] <MaK10> does anyone know a good program in ubuntu thats similar to VSO convert X
[12:28] <dr_willis> MaK10:  and that app does what?
[12:28] <MaK10> converts divx to DVD format
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> MaK10: what does it do?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> MaK10: try devede
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> MaK10: it makes a DVD ISO out of one or more video files, you can then SLOWLY burn the DVD
[12:29] <ionite> can anyone help me with my blank boot in screen?
[12:29] <dr_willis> You can generate a dvd 'video disk' iso with menus and so on.. with DeVeDe
[12:29] <dr_willis> Ive never noticed a need to slowly burn them... :)
[12:29] <peter_felching> I have problem with touchpad. Taping it works on gdm screen, but it stops once I log into gnome 3 session.
[12:29] <MaK10> sweet thanks heaps guys
[12:29] <MaK10> il give it ago
[12:29] <ionite> action: the line i had was: ro splash quiet vt.handoff=7
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> ionite: does the nouveau.blacklist=1   not work?
[12:29] <theadmin> peter_felching: Open the control center thing, go to mouse, and enable clicking by tapping
[12:29] <ionite> then i keyed in noveau.blacklist=1 after 'quiet' still can't work
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> ionite: add the option to that then
[12:30] <ionite> action: what do u mean add the option?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> ionite: try removing the quiet splash ro     and you will see the boot messages, may help
[12:31] <theadmin> ActionParsnip, ionite: DO NOT REMOVE "ro"!
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> ionite: make your bootoption simply be:   nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: why?
[12:31] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: That mounts the filesystem read-only before performing various checks... If you remove it, I think you may cause serious filesystem damage on your /
[12:31] <peter_felching> theadmin, I don't have control center, I previously had kde installed, but I purged everything related and installed gnome 3. I gave gpointing-device-settings installed thou, and tapping is enabled.
[12:32] <ionite> so the line should look like this?: quiet splash nouveau.blacklist=1 ?
[12:32] <theadmin> peter_felching: Hm, odd
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: i guess if you are diagnosing it makes sense
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> ionite: just: nouveau.blacklist=1 ro       is fine
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> ionite: have a play, see what you can do. Is the system a laptop?
[12:32] <ionite> desktop
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> ionite: does it have a make and model?
[12:33] <peter_felching> theadmin, As for strange, there is only "disable tapping" in tapping tab am I correct?
[12:34] <theadmin> peter_felching: I don't remember Gnome3 much
[12:34] <peter_felching> theadmin, I think that gpointing-device-settings is the same for 2.X
[12:34] <spyzer> hey everyone, does pm-powersave is enabled by default in other words pm-powersave true happens on system boot by default
[12:34] <spyzer> ?
[12:34] <spyzer> please tell
[12:35] <theadmin> peter_felching: Well, then I guess yes
[12:35] <ionite> action: can't. still black screen
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> ionite: does the system have a make and model?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> ionite: does it have onboard video as well as a PCI express video card?
[12:37] <ionite> action: yes it does.
[12:37] <spyzer> anybody please
[12:37] <dr_willis> spyzer:  your question is a bit confuseing..
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> ionite: care to share the information, it will help YOU
[12:38] <wols_> spyzer: pm-powersave is a command, no? how can it be "enabled"?
[12:38] <dr_willis> spyzer:  is 'pm-powersave' enabled by default?  you mean? how are you even checking that its enabled/disabled?
[12:38] <theadmin> ionite: The "tab" key. Use it.
[12:38] <dr_willis> !tab
[12:38] <spyzer> dr_willis: well in other words laptop-mode-tools cannot be started until pm-powersave true has been called once
[12:38] <spyzer> so by any chance does some startup script in ubuntu does that by  efault
[12:38] <spyzer> ?
[12:39] <theadmin> ionite: If you're on an Android phone and are using irssi, you can use the right-shift key instead
[12:39] <theadmin> ionite: Instead of tab, that is
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> andchat on android is the balls :)
[12:39] <dr_willis> right shift Hmm.. have to try that next time im on anchat
[12:39] <ionite> the admin: android phone?
[12:39] <spyzer> huh?
[12:40] <dr_willis> like right now.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> spyzer: you could add it in /etc/rc.local   and it will run each boot
[12:40] <spyzer> okay thanks
[12:40] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i dont even have a 'right shift' key on my android phone keyboard. :()
[12:40] <theadmin> dr_willis: Odd, is it Swype?
[12:41] <ionite> the admin: tab key???
[12:41] <Wheels2050> Has anyone come across a freezing problem with Ubuntu on a laptop? Whenever I close the lid it locks up and I have to reset. It was working up until a couple of days ago...
[12:41] <dr_willis> theadmin:  default 'android keyboard' i belive
[12:41] <vlt> tab key is ctrl+i
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: you can long tap on the input box, scroll down and select complete nick
[12:42] <nit-wit> Wheels2050, what do you have close the lid set to do?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> ionite: can you please give the detail I asked....
[12:42] <dr_willis> bbl. gota run.
[12:42] <Wheels2050> nit-wit: it's currently set to suspend, and I haven't changed any of those settings lately
[12:42] <Wheels2050> if it helps, the wireless is always disabled when I restart and log back in
[12:42] <ionite> actionparsnip: my motherboard have an onbard video card but i'm using the one plugged into my agp slot
[12:44] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I installed andchat
[12:44] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[12:44] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: looks cool
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: its what I use mostly when I'm on here
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> ionite: did you disable the onboard video and/or set the primary adapter to the PCI express slot?
[12:45] <ionite> i did. as i am able to access the grub menu to press E?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> ionite: when the screen goes black, I bet if you plug the monitor into the onboard it will work
[12:46] <sets88> who knows how to change PPID(parrent) of process?
[12:47] <nit-wit> Wheels2050, I was curious if it was hibernate and your swap was to small.
[12:47] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ah, cool
[12:48] <ionite> action: are u sure? so what should do if i want to use only my plugged in video card?
[12:48] <sets88> anyone?
[12:48] <ziKo_> ??
[12:49] <sets88> ziKo_,  "who knows how to change PPID(parrent) of process?"
[12:49] <theadmin> ionite: Told you to use the tab key
[12:49] <DarkInjection> t irc.net.gr
[12:49] <viq_> Hi, I have a problem with the ati drivers. I wanted to use catalyst drivers for an HD6650M, but when I install fglrx and run aticonfig, I have "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected", someone knows how to solve this ?
[12:51] <robin0800> viq_, did you run it as root?
[12:51] <viq_> yes of course
[12:52] <viq_> (running lucid)
[12:52] <robin0800> viq_, and wich drivers from jocky or amd's website?
[12:53] <viq_> robin0800, drivers from amd (AMD Catalyst™ 11.6 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver)
[12:54] <bad_alloc> Hello I'm installing a ubuntu 10.04 to replace an old 8.10. I need to get rid of the old 8.10 and install the 10.04 in its place. at the same time I'd like to keep a windows XP that is also installed on that computer. this all happens on the same disk. how do i achieve this?
[12:55] <ionite> action: i tried to plug into my intergrated motherboard graphics and it didnt work.
[12:55] <vlt> bad_alloc: Just choose the partition 8.10 is on as target during install
[12:55] <ionite> theadmin: When do I use the TAB key?
[12:55] <robin0800> viq_, try the ones in jockey (additional Drivers)
[12:55] <theadmin> ionite: Okay, type "action" (without quotes) and press the key
[12:56] <nit-wit> bad_alloc, if the 8.10 is replaceable as is; install to that partition in the choice bootom line=other a custom install
[12:56] <bad_alloc> nit-wit, vlt thanks
[12:56] <nit-wit> bad_alloc, no problem , that makes sense go for it.
[12:57] <nit-wit> *if
[12:57] <ionite> theadmin: forgive me please for being a Ubuntu first time user.  What do u mean enter action? where do i key in 'action'?
[12:57] <Pici> ionite: theadmin means here in IRC
[12:57] <BluesKaj> viq_, ati-xconfig ?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> ionite: is the device fully disabled?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> ionite: instead of typing just typing 'action', press TAB after and it willcomplete
[12:59] <viq_> robin0800, installed and active, but no 3D acceleration (I can't run compiz)
[12:59] <ionite> action: it kept going to ur PM. which u don't want?
[13:00] <theadmin> ionite: on IRC, here, when you type, to autocomplete the nickname ActionParsnip, you could do that
[13:00] <robin0800> viq_, which driver is that?
[13:00] <ionite> theadmin: but it keeps PM others?
[13:01] <theadmin> ionite: That's not PM
[13:01] <bad_alloc> nit-wit: I'm in the dialogue "preparing partitions" (german translation). how exactly do i tell ubuntu to install on a specific partition (sda8 in my case)?
[13:01] <viq_> robin0800, the deb are "jokey-gtk" and "jockey-common" right ?
[13:01] <theadmin> ionite: PM is when you type "/msg ActionParsnip loltext"
[13:01] <theadmin> ionite: This is called a mention, or a highlight. It alerts a user their nickname had been mentioned
[13:01] <wh1zz0> ..
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ionite: make sure the onboard is disabled properly and the pci express is default, you may also want to try:  ro nomodeset nouveau.blacklist=1 nv.blacklist=1
[13:02]  * theadmin is doing irc lessons lol
[13:02] <farchord> bad_alloc, in the partitionner, select the sda8 partition, and tell it to mount as /
[13:02] <brandini> the updates I installed today made my usb act goofy and it won't detect my usb hub anymore
[13:02] <nit-wit> bad_alloc, choose the other at the partiton choice this leads to a window where you choose that partition put in the / mount and faormat and ext4
[13:02] <wh1zz0> theadmin: thanks
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> I don't support in PM so asking me stuff there just gets closed
[13:02] <robin0800> viq_, yea think so thought it was installed by default
[13:03] <nit-wit> *format bad_alloc  sorry for the spelling
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ionite: ask in the channel
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ionite: you can disable the onboard in BIOS.
[13:03] <ionite> action: sorry i still can't figure out the IRC action part.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ionite: just leave out the /msg part
[13:03] <bad_alloc> perfect that worked. a final question, i have  sda6 floating around uselessly, how do I add it to sda8?
[13:04] <viq_> robin0800, the problem is that my graphic card is "too recent" for open-source drivers (like radeon) -> It does not support HD Series6 Cards, so I tried AMD's drivers instead, but still no 3D
[13:04] <ionite> ActionParsnip: how do i disable the onbard graphics?
[13:04] <theadmin> wh1zz0: ??
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ionite: it's like all the times you type:  action: some text here
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ionite: you disable the onboard graphics in BIOS
[13:05] <Dougie187> bastidrazor: Thanks for the suggestion, but nothing obvious pops out at me in the .xsession-errors
[13:05] <robin0800> viq_, hate to say it but you may need to update ubuntu first for newer hardware support
[13:05] <dyd> how can i fix the desktop cube zoom? ubuntu 11.04
[13:06] <dyd> ok lol found it
[13:07] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i disabled the serial ports it's still blank screen.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> ionite: its not a serial port
[13:08] <ionite> maybe i should quit ubuntu and install windows. i still can't solve the blank screen options. sighs.
[13:08] <ionite> ActionParsnip: huh? graphics card are all serial port?
[13:08] <viq_> robin0800, Also tried with 11.04 on liveCD, can't run aticonfig after installing fglrx, do you thing that if it does not not work on liveCD, it may work when I install it ?
[13:09] <InsertInterestin> I have a problem with my network card. Ubuntu doesn't even seem to recognize it. Does anyone know where I should start?
[13:09] <theadmin> ionite: Try another distro, don't dump Linux just because ubuntu has failed you
[13:09] <bad_alloc> nit-wit (hope I'm not bugging you too much): a final question, i have  sda6 floating around uselessly, how do I add it to sda8? do i delete it and then add the remaining space to sda8?
[13:10] <rah_> @bad_alloc try gparted
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> ionite: no a serial port is a serial port, VGA is a VGA port. Serial ports are 9 pin. VGA is 15 pin
[13:11] <ionite> ActionParsnip: so i should disable my vga port?
[13:11] <c001> ActionParsnip: I'm having trouble getting my AE2500 USB wifi adapter recognized in Ubuntu.  I followed your recommendation about the lsusb command and got the 8 character hex then did a search for that.  I came up with this page:  http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Linksys_AE2500
[13:11] <nit-wit> bad_alloc, no bother I would have to see your set up like a gparted screen shot, but since you have sda8 and sda6 there must be a sda7 between, so merging may not be a option.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> ionite: yes, the onboard one. If there is any RAM assigned to it, set it to zero
[13:11] <c001> it looks like Broadcom BCM4323
[13:11] <tuxcrafter> does somebody know the root pw for the daily live built iso?
[13:11] <ionite> theadmin: what if linux give me black screen again?
[13:11] <InsertInterestin> If serial ports are a problem, you can get a USB - Serial connector device at Radioshack or such.
[13:12] <Pici> tuxcrafter: The root account is locked on all installs of Ubuntu. You should be using sudo instead.
[13:12] <tuxcrafter> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Daily Build
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> c001: ask the channel. Don't ask me directly like that. If I have a solution then I will advise
[13:12] <tuxcrafter> well sudo passwd then
[13:12] <c001> ok sorry about that
[13:12] <nit-wit> bad_alloc, take a screen shot of gparted and post it at http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add    and post the link
[13:12] <rah_> Maybe somebody can halp me to set up my wireless connection. I tried a lot of tutorials and shutdown all encyptions but still can't get a connection
[13:13] <Pici> tuxcrafter: There still shouldn't be one. but try 'toor' just in case.  Also, sorry for forwarding you around, but 11.10 questions really should be in #ubuntu+1 :)
[13:14] <bad_alloc> nit-wit: i overlooked that that belongs to some obscure windowsXP embedded, so I guess I'll leave it there. Thanks for your help :)
[13:15] <nit-wit> bad_alloc, no prob feel free to ask any more questions. ;)
[13:16] <tuxcrafter> Pici: ack
[13:16] <Sidewinder1> Pici, I almost answered "tux" but I wasn't clear on his question; correct me, please, if I'm wrong but, isn't the password, when running from a LiveCD, "ubuntu"?
[13:17] <AlecTaylor> hi
[13:17] <Pici> Sidewinder1: Someone elsewhere suggested that, didn't work.  I didn't think there was one personally.
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> Pici, OK, thanks. :-)
[13:18] <AlecTaylor> I've installed the "Tertiary Bundle" from Ubuntu Software Centre (ubuntu-edu-tertiary), it downloaded a heap, but I can't figure out what new stuff I have. What's included?
[13:18] <rah_> i'm connected over ssh to a ubuntu machine and try to set up a wireless connection (connected via wire). iwlist scan shows avialible networks. But when setting the essid and trying dhclient I can't get a connection
[13:19] <theadmin> rah_: Is the network encrypted?
[13:19] <Pici> AlecTaylor: It should have installed: calibre, celestia-gnome, dia-gnome, freemind, geogebra, inkscape, kalzium, kmplot, ktouch, kturtle, laby, lightspeed, lybniz, marble, melting, pencil, stellarium, step, yorick
[13:19] <rah_> no i shut the encryption down
[13:19] <ionite> ActionParsnip: it's still blank screen
[13:20] <c001> hmmmm
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> ionite: so you blacklisted nv and nouveua ?
[13:20] <Pici> AlecTaylor: I got that via: apt-cache show ubuntu-edu-tertiary.  I'm not sure if there is a way of getting that info via the Software Center
[13:20] <ionite> can i have the command again?
[13:20] <theadmin> rah_: "iwconfig wlan0 essid 'myessid'" should do it
[13:20] <AlecTaylor> Thanks Pici, hopefully some of that stuff will be useful
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> ionite: its not a command, its boot options
[13:20] <AlecTaylor> Pici: The packages.ubuntu link is broken
[13:21] <Pici> AlecTaylor: It goes down sometimes, I'll check if there is an open bug about this isntance.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> ionite: nv.blacklist=1 nouveau.blacklist=1 nomodeset
[13:21] <theadmin> rah_: If not, try to first do "ip link set wlan0 up", though... if it's not up it wouldn't be scannable
[13:21] <ionite> ActionParsnip: so i remove all the quiet splash?
[13:21] <Pici> AlecTaylor: Seems to be working for me: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/ubuntu-edu-tertiary
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> ionite: yes, you can see what's happening then instead of the good details being hidden behind some dumb graphic
[13:22] <rah_> theadmin: if i connect a monitor and so on to the pc i can get a connection via gui programms. but i dont want to use a monitor on this pc and iwconfig eth1 essid 'myessid' doesn't work
[13:22] <AlecTaylor> Pici: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu-edu-tertiary - First result given by firefox was the karmic link
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> AlecTaylor: might not be the same for the user due to web bubbles
[13:23] <theadmin> rah_: Why is wireless on eth1?! That's just wrong
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> AlecTaylor: http://dontbubble.us/
[13:24] <AlecTaylor> aye aye
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: sometimes they pick up that way. Wicd is flexible and can use any interface name
[13:24] <rah_> theadmin: don't know, tutorials say this may happen and doesn't depend
[13:25] <ionite> ActionParsnip: alright some progress. i'm prompted to log in now. what do i do next?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> rah_: install wicd, you can set the interface name
[13:25] <yanick> hi, Ubuntu classic does not show the menu bar or app bar (at bottom). When I do a "compiz --replace", everything hangs. I think I may have killed it when trying to customize the desktop effects at some point, how can I restore Gnome classic to it,s default settings?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> ionite: should just log you in, press CTRL+ALT+F1   and run:  passwd ubuntu     set a password, press CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in as ubuntu with the password you set
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> !panels | yanick
[13:26] <ionite> ActionParsnip: ok. now i'm still in dos mode like screen. so what do i next?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> ionite: read what I wrote above.
[13:26] <eudaimon> !selinux
[13:27] <Benkinooby> yanick are you on ubunut 11?
[13:27] <yanick> Benkinooby, yes
[13:28] <yanick> ActionParsnip, "no process found"
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> yanick: are you logging in to Ubuntu Classic or Ubuntu?
[13:29] <update> how do i boot ubuntu ffrom a live cd???  Its keeps asking me for the iso image???
[13:29] <yanick> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu classic. I'm actually in the session right now, but having to press ctrl+t for a terminal and launching apps from there
[13:29] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i have several laptops that wireless is on eth1, or in one case i had one be on eth2
[13:29] <tobago1> i can't talk in #trac... that's poor.
[13:29] <theadmin> dr_willis: Wow
[13:29] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well that's odd, idk
[13:29] <Pici> !register | tobago1
[13:29] <ionite> ActionParsnip: now i'm in the page Welcome To Ubuntu 11.04 all in text DOS mode
[13:29] <Benkinooby> yanick, http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[13:29] <dr_willis> theadmin:  its not odd. Its just the name the drivers used.  I was thinking eventually they are all supposed to be eth#
[13:30] <theadmin> dr_willis: Mine are usually wlan0, well, never actually had anything but that
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ionite: try READING what I wrote earlier. I gave all the instruction you need
[13:30] <dr_willis> I recall there being some a few releases back there were somthing other then wlan0 or eth0. but i forget what it was.. :)
[13:30] <ziKo`> hello all
[13:30] <ziKo`> help me
[13:30] <Pici> !ask | ziKo`
[13:31] <Ace2o> how do I increase size of my disk?
[13:31] <ionite> ActionParsnip: u mean i must type the word 'run: passwd ubuntu' ?
[13:31] <ziKo`> my bluetooth cant detect on toshiba
[13:31] <ziKo`> how that
[13:31] <ziKo`> how im fix it
[13:31] <ionite> ActionParsnip: my password was already set when i install ubuntu?
[13:31] <VictorCL2> hi
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ionite: it shouldbe blank and log you in but you will need to set it if you don't get auto logged in
[13:32] <VictorCL2> just upgraded to ubuntu 11  ... is there a way to put the left bar on the bottom?
[13:32] <ziKo`> help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> ziKo`: does it show in the output of:   dmesg | less
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> ziKo`: have some patience child
[13:32] <BluesKaj>  ionite , alt+ctrl+F7  or F8
[13:32] <ziKo`> oh
[13:32] <ionite> ActionParsnip: forgive me for being an idiot because i'm really new to this and i need some very explicit instructions.  so how do i begin?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ionite: should just log you in, press CTRL+ALT+F1   and run:  passwd ubuntu     set a password, press CTRL+ALT+F7  and log in as ubuntu with the password you set
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ionite: should just log you in, press CTRL+ALT+F1   and run:  passwd ubuntu     set a password, press CTRL+ALT+F7  and log in as ubuntu with the password you set
[13:33] <yanick> ActionParsnip, but... that will also reset many things that I have spent times to setup (ie. Nautilus shortcuts, and apps configs), no?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ionite: its so simple, I literally cannot break that down to simpler steps with explaining it by telling you what fingers to use
[13:34] <ionite> ActionParsnip: so i press CTRL+ALT+F1 then i type: 'run: passwd ubuntu'
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> yanick: what will?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, on some setups F7 isn't working, only alt+ctrl+F8 works on mine
[13:34] <yanick> ActionParsnip, delete .gconf and all
[13:34] <spankbot> what is the 'arp' command to harvest all the IPs on the network?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ionite: no, the word 'run' is telling you the next bit is a command to run
[13:34] <ionite> ActionParsnip: oic. ok let me try it now.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> yanick: it's not deleting it, its resetting the gconf settings for the panel,those are nothing to do with nautilus
[13:34] <Benkinooby> yanick, the best thing is to move the folder you are going to remove to a differnet place
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ionite: see how simple it is, and you are asking me to clarify....
[13:35] <yanick> Benkinooby, good idea
[13:35] <Benkinooby> yanick, by that the configs will not be used anymore, but you will still have a backup
[13:35]  * farchord hands ActionParsnip a cup of Expresso. "Hang in there, man" :)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> farchord: cheers bro, I have a huge cuppa tea too :)
[13:35] <Benkinooby> np
[13:35] <theadmin> farchord: It's espresso dude xD
[13:36] <ziKo`> actionparsnip: ??
[13:36] <ziKo`> ello
[13:36] <farchord> theadmin: Bah, Tomato, tomatoe.... XD
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ziKo`: ?
[13:36] <Benkinooby> testverylongstringofsymplos!
[13:36] <ziKo`> im just see this
[13:36] <SURFkees> I can't get my gfx card working with Natty: http://pastebin.com/ZYXTXd82
[13:36] <joycexu> hello
[13:36] <SURFkees> Anyone have any tips?
[13:36] <ziKo`> [ 8302.047679] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.15
[13:36] <ziKo`> [ 8302.047706] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[13:36] <ziKo`> [ 8302.047708] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[13:36] <ziKo`> [ 8302.047711] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[13:36] <ziKo`> [ 8313.276599] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.15
[13:36] <ziKo`> [ 8313.276607] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[13:36] <FloodBot1> ziKo`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:36] <Ace2o> my server provider set me up with a virtual ubuntu server with 9GB space which he just increased to 50GB. When I log in I still see 9GB and he told me I have to increase it. Can someone tell me how to increase disk size please?
[13:37] <ionite> ActionParsnip: it says user 'ubuntu' doesn't exist
[13:37] <ziKo`> im just cant use my bluetooth and my charge display cant show on panel
[13:37] <ionite> ActionParsnip: when i type 'passwd ubuntu' it prompts me that user Ubuntu does not exist
[13:37] <Benkinooby> testverylongstringofsymplos!sorryagain
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> SURFkees: do you have one of those annoying dual gpu systems using a switch to jump between?
[13:37] <ziKo`> ahhhhhhh
[13:37] <VictorCL2> you can't move the panel to the bottom?  ¬¬
[13:37] <Pici> Benkinooby: Please stop that.
[13:37] <yanick> ActionParsnip, I assume I have to replace ".gnome" with ".gnome2" in the command the blog says
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> ziKo`: the device is detected then
[13:38] <SURFkees> ActionParsnip, yes, nvidia optimus
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> SURFkees: those are a serious PAIN to get working
[13:38] <yanick> ... and .metacity does not exist anymore in 11.04
[13:38] <ziKo`> but i cant using that
[13:38] <Pici> Benkinooby: Use #test or some other private channel if you need to play with IRC
[13:38] <ionite> ActionParsnip: when i type 'passwd ubuntu' it prompts me that user Ubuntu does not exist
[13:38] <kamidi> VictorCL2: AFAIK not currently
[13:38] <ziKo`> Connection to BlueZ failed
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> ionite: I saw before, no need to repeat
[13:38] <Benkinooby> Pici, yes sorry... it's over now :)
[13:38] <ionite> ActionParsnip: so what do i do now?
[13:38] <SURFkees> ActionParsnip, yea, I've noticed. I've tried several things now including bumblebee, etc
[13:39] <theadmin> Oh good this is getting too intensive >.< I can't keep track of conversations going on anymore!
[13:39] <yanick> anyways... here goes nothing!
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> ionite: press CTRL+ALT+F7   is there a username listed?
[13:39] <rah_> ActionParsnip: thx wicd works. But why does it disconnect my wired connection when activating the wireless connection?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> SURFkees: bumblebee is alli know. I avoid those monstrosities like the plague
[13:39] <theadmin> rah_: How do you expect to keep two connections up?
[13:39] <ziKo`> No Bluetooth adapter present
[13:40] <ziKo`> Your computer does not have any Bluetooth adapters plugged in
[13:40] <ziKo`> how that
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> rah_: you can setup the devices separately and tell them to both connect (afaik), personally I always configure wired connections with /etc/network/interfaces
[13:40] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i presed ctrl alt f7 and nothing but a blinking cursor apperas
[13:40] <rah_> theadmin:  because i was logged in with ssh over wire :-)
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> ionite: try CTRL+ALT+F6 then
[13:40] <rah_> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[13:40] <theadmin> rah_: Well... I keep saying, if Ubuntu had netcfg network configuration would be oh god so much simplier over cli
[13:40] <SURFkees> ActionParsnip, aside from the optimus, what would the message "[    19.940] (EE) No devices detected." mean in my xorg.log?
[13:41] <SURFkees> ActionParsnip, ie, it can't find my gfx card?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> SURFkees: if you can, simply disable the intel video in BIOS so that only the nvidia is present and it will work.
[13:41] <pratz> hey guys noramlly  windows users use photoshop to create psd files, what software should i use on ubuntu to do the same ??
[13:41] <ziKo`> hhhhhhhh
[13:41] <iHateDev> GIMP
[13:41] <ionite> ActionParsnip: control alt f6 shows this: Ubuntu Login:_
[13:41] <JasFasolka> Since yesterday, sometimes when I open some window it kinda "cuts" a part of my gnome panel. I've uninstalled Chromium yesterday but I don't know if it's connected to this. Anyways ... what the hell?
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> !gimp | pratz
[13:42] <VictorCL2> xD going back to ubuntu classic
[13:42] <iHateDev> Not as good as photoshop, but will do the job
[13:42] <ziKo`> and how to reset root password btw
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> pratz: you may be able to get photoshop working in wine. Photoshop uses a proprietary file format so you may have issues.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> ionite: i'd reboot and get back to the login screen. Did you test the CD for defects?
[13:42] <iceroot> ziKo`: there is no reason to have a root-password/enabled-root-account
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> ziKo`: you don't. Just use sudo
[13:42] <ziKo`> oh ok
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> ziKo`: and gksudo for graphical apps
[13:43] <ionite> ActionParsnip: I did a md5sum before installing from my USB. no defects
[13:43] <ionite> ActionParsnip: so how do i reboot?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> ionite: oh thats cool then :). Glad you MD5 tested. Many don't :D
[13:43] <iceroot> !sudo | ziKo`
[13:43] <pratz> ActionParsnip: but photoshop uses psd files, if i create in gimp what will be file format and will the other windows users be able to open that file in some software ??
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> ionite: CTRL+ALT+DEL
[13:43] <ionite> ActionParsnip: after reboot what do i do?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> pratz: jpg, png etc
[13:43] <ionite> ActionParsnip: press shift again?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> ionite: get back to the login screen, like I said
[13:44] <ionite> ActionParsnip: how do i get back to the login screen?
[13:44] <pratz> ActionParsnip: k, thanks dude
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> ionite: use the same boot options you used last time
[13:44] <maskatel> ActionParsnip, id did not work :(
[13:44] <ionite> ActionParsnip: there after?
[13:44] <maskatel> I have no panels in gnome classic
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> ionite: well you should see a username, you can set the password for that user in the command line
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !panels | maskatel
[13:45] <theadmin> This is too tough to deal with now, sorry, I'm off to some... silenter channel xD
[13:45] <maskatel> ActionParsnip, you already gave me this tip (yanick). I have this username because I deleted all my gnome config files
[13:46] <VictorCL2> ehh the windows are not bouncing ... how can I set this effect back?
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> VictorCL2, Perhaps in compiz config?
[13:48] <ionite> ActionParsnip: there is no user ID displayed. i'm prompted by this: User Login:_
[13:48] <Sidewinder1> VictorCL2, May be in: System--> Preferences--> Compiz Settings Manager.
[13:49] <joycexu> ctrl+alt+back
[13:49] <Provenzano> hi. can someonte tell me when ntfs support has added to ubuntu?
[13:49] <joycexu> vieleicht
[13:49] <yanick> why... aren't gnome classic display panels EVEN after I deleted and reset all configs???
[13:49] <aeon-ltd> Provenzano: it already has but it's not part of the default install i think, it's called ntfs-3g
[13:49] <iceroot> Provenzano: every ubuntu-release was able to read ntfs
[13:49] <kamidi> Provenzano: isn't it supported already?
[13:50] <Provenzano> I'm trying to access using a 8.10 live cd.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> ionite: ok then press CTRL+ALT+F1    and run:  sudo adduser ubuntu admin       should add a user for you (you will be asked to set the password)
[13:50] <iceroot> Provenzano: the write-support was coming later with the packahe ntfs-3g  have a look at packages.ubuntu.com when the package ntfs-3g was imported into ubuntu
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Provenzano: I'd grab a Natty live CD and you will be fine
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> !eol | Provenzano
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> Provenzano, 8.10 is eol.
[13:52] <spankbot> arp anyone?  looking for the arp command to harvest all IPs on a subnet
[13:52] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i was asked to set the password but after i set it says Login Incorrect
[13:54] <ionite> ActionParsnip: Am I anywhere near to solve my blank screen problem?
[13:55] <yanick> I have reeet and deleted all configurations that I could think of... but STILL no gnome panels in ubuntu classic....
[13:55] <yanick> help...
[13:55] <jane-> hi, where are the mount points stated in? i am having an ntfs filesystem or driver error at boot, i want to del the ntfs partition on that list ?
[13:56] <Provenzano> I found my problem. i force mount, cause it said it has been in use
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> ionite: well you get a graphical login screen, so that is solved. Surely
[13:56] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm having an issue in 11.04 wherein after a few hours of being idle, when my computer re-awakens, my DisplayPort monitor does not wake (but a second VGA monitor does)
[13:56] <kamidi> jane-: /etc/fstab
[13:57] <jane-> how to retard kde by comand
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> jane-: they will mount using fuse in ~/.gvfs
[13:57] <BHSPitMonkey> Has anyone else had this issue?  Is there a way to try and force displays to wake?
[13:57] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i was asked to set the password but after i set it says Login Incorrect
[13:57] <BHSPitMonkey> (The monitor simply won't come out of standby, not just in X but in all of the tty's as well.)
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ionite: then not sure, are you intending to single boot ubuntu on the system?
[13:57] <jane-> ActionParsnip yes. its the same kind of error
[13:58] <jane-> ActionParsnip so what should i do.
[13:58] <ionite> ActionParsnip: thats right.
[13:58] <aetas> Any of you guys know some links for info on changing unity to run more like classic (yes I know I can run classic directly)
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ionite: i'd try the alternate installer. It will install in text mode and give you fewer issues
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> jane-: what is your goal?
[13:59] <jane-> ActionParsnip and kamidi i cant get etc/opt/sources.list. cant startx even with sudo , permision denied
[13:59] <jane-> ActionParsnip i cant boot. cant run ubuntu
[13:59] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i installed the text mode option
[13:59] <jane-> ActionParsnip iam using kde
[13:59] <yanick> I did everything I could read about replacing gnome-panel... the problem is that IT IS NOT RUNNING
[13:59] <BHSPitMonkey> jane-: reinstall?
[13:59] <jane-> how to restart kde,  that .kdm restart thing
[13:59] <yanick> gnome-panel or anything like that is not running in Ubuntu classic at logon
[14:00] <BHSPitMonkey> jane-: I think the proper way to restart kde would be 'sudo service kdm restart'
[14:00] <jane-> BHSPitMonkey tired of doing that again and again
[14:00] <jane-> BHSPitMonkey unknow instance
[14:00] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i'm now at user login:_ so what do i do next?
[14:00] <xangua> yanick: what is the output of : gnome-terminal &
[14:00] <xangua> '¿
[14:00] <metalf8801> Is it safe to use # in a filename? For example can I use the filename "Listener_Feedback_#116" or should I use "Listener_Feedback_116"?
[14:01] <BHSPitMonkey> jane-: perhaps you have a bad hard drive or RAM if you're seeing such severe issues on a recurring basis
[14:01] <jane-> BHSPitMonkey hm
[14:01] <jane-> ActionParsnip help
[14:01] <JonathanLima> i'm having problems with permissioning my svn repository... could some one give me a hand?
[14:01] <aetas> metalf8801, thats fine, some chars require you to escape them, though
[14:01] <JonathanLima> svn is working, but it's permissions are buggy
[14:01] <BHSPitMonkey> JonathanLima: use git, problem solved ;)
[14:02] <yanick> xangua, [3] 3728... but what difference does it make? it just opens another terminal....
[14:02] <JonathanLima> BHSPitMonkey: lol... i already installed and imported 20gb of source on svn... can´t move now
[14:02] <aetas> hrm ok how about this, can we use the AppIndicators from unity on a gnome panel since you can't use the old launcher in unity?
[14:03] <BHSPitMonkey> JonathanLima: there's conversion tools available! :)
[14:03] <yanick> hmm.... I have found my solution, so it seems. "gnome-panel" was purged... for some reason
[14:03] <ionite> can anyone help me to get into my GNOME main frame?
[14:03] <jane-> ActionParsnip help
[14:03] <yanick> I surely do not remember having purged the package
[14:03] <JonathanLima> BHSPitMonkey: but it seems i´m missing something on the permissions... i´m getting permission denied
[14:03] <ionite> i am now stuck in User Login:____ what should i do?
[14:04] <BHSPitMonkey> JonathanLima: I actually don't know much about svn server configuration
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> jane-: if you can't boot then you should reinstate grub2 using livecd so the OS actually boots
[14:05] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i'm now at user login:_ so what do i do next?
[14:05] <scojocaru> exit
[14:05] <metalf8801>  aetas what does you mean by "some chars require you to escape them" ? Does that mean that using a # in a filename could sometimes cause problems?
[14:05] <jane-> ActionParsnip i do boot and get the black screen but kdm dont start
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> ionite: not sure, the liveCD logs itself in, you shouldn't be challenged for credentials
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> jane-: which video chip do you use?
[14:06] <koichirose> Hi, if a program is looking for '/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java', what do I have to install exactly?
[14:06] <JonathanLima> BHSPitMonkey: no prob... thanks anyway =]
[14:06] <aetas> metalf8801, that char you can get away with, some chars you can use in file names regardless as long as you escape them though...like spaces
[14:06] <tftech> Good Morning
[14:06] <ionite> ActionParsnip: say i log in myself maunally what do type?
[14:06] <BHSPitMonkey> jane-: perhaps your video drivers are the problem?
[14:06] <metalf8801> aetas oh ok thank  you
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> ionite: usually the username is ubuntu, the password should be blank
[14:07] <tftech> I have having no luck getting an Nvidia Quadro FX 380 working with Ubuntu on a laptop
[14:07] <BHSPitMonkey> jane-: have you tried booting to the recovery mode menu and selecting failsafe graphics?
[14:07] <tftech> anybody have any experience with that card?
[14:07] <Polah> koichirose: Sun Java. You need to enable the Canonical partners repository and use apt to install "sun-java6-jre"
[14:07] <koichirose> Polah, thanks, will try.
[14:07] <Polah> koichirose: Remember to update your package list after enabling the partners repo.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> tftech: install nvidia-current   and it should work
[14:08] <aetas> ActionParsnip, do you use unity or classic?  just curious
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> koichirose: there is a PPA which gets updated more regularly for java
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> aetas: neither, lxde
[14:08] <rah_> ActionParsnip, is there a way in wicd to reconnect to the wireless network after reboot? i have selected automatic connect but after reboot it doesn't connect to the wireless network
[14:08] <tftech> Action: so dont use the additional drivers option in the GUI?
[14:08] <JonathanLima> does any one know about svn permissions? i´m getting permission denied error even when i belong to the group that has the permission
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> aetas: gnome is too slow for my taste
[14:09] <aetas> ActionParsnip, slow as in speed or slow as in speed of getting to what you want?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> rah_: the automatic connection should make it link up at reboot
[14:09] <jane-> BHSPitMonkey yes
[14:09] <koichirose> Polah, thanks, worked. ActionParsnip, what's the PPA?
[14:09] <koichirose> for java
[14:09] <jane-> BHSPitMonkey ActionParsnip it says again for that comand.  coud not opn file /etc/apt/sources.list. its not instand
[14:09] <jane-> install it by apt get instal coreutils
[14:09] <JonathanLima> txn-current-lock permission denied =/
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> aetas: all, i just want my apps to do what I want when I say rather than a song and dance. I can run a full compiz / gnome but I just choose not to
[14:10] <jane-> ActionParsnip dont know but live cd runs fine
[14:10] <ionite> ActionParsnip: so should i reinstall?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ionite: reinstall what?
[14:10] <ionite> ActionParsnip: my ubuntu?
[14:10] <c001> #Ubuntu: I'm having trouble getting my AE2500 USB wifi adapter recognized in Ubuntu.  I ran lsusb command and got the 8 character hex then did a search for that.  I came up with this page:  http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Linksys_AE2500
[14:10] <BHSPitMonkey> jane-: what command says that message? And did failsafe graphics get you into KDE?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ionite: well that's going to be tough considering the install media won't log you in
[14:11] <aetas> ActionParsnip, I like classic because I don't like having to type every damn little thing but I'm worried I'll fall off support-wise.  I know they added AppIndicators which looks interesting but not sure if I can get it in classic yet.  I'd run Unity if I could get it back to the way classic looked
[14:11] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i'm really stuck. is there any way out of this? anyone who can help or anything i can try? i'm so just so vexed with ubuntu
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> jane-: is the system a branded pc?
[14:11] <ionite> ActionParsnip: Would reinstalling help or whatever?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ionite: use the alternate CD. It doesn't have the GUI installer so will work with your problematic nvidia chip
[14:11] <Sidewinder1> !lts > aetas
[14:12] <ionite> i am already using the alternate CD install which is text based
[14:12] <jane-> ActionParsnip yes. dell
[14:12] <jane-> ActionParsnip it sayas , ntfs-3g  unknow option -e  . and stops booting. any solutions?
[14:12] <aetas> Sidewinder1, I mean support as in not getting the newer features, not support support
[14:12] <jane-> BHSPitMonkey ^
[14:12] <Sidewinder1> aetas, You may wish to install Lucid, 10.04.
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ionite: no you are using the live CD hence being asked for login and the CTRL+ALT+F1 combination taking you to a "dos screen". You are using the desktop  ISO, Not the alternative
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> aetas, If you prefer bleeding edge, LTS is probably not for you. :-)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> jane-: which model dell?? Dell make HUNDREDS of different systems
[14:13] <jane-> ActionParsnip it sayas , ntfs-3g  unknow option -e  . and stops booting. any solutions? external fuse low 28 , third gen ntfs driver configs type 5  bla bla bla posix acls are off. yura pakhuchiy (C)
[14:13] <BHSPitMonkey> jane-: I really want to say there's a hardware problem at some point (probably the hard disk) with such widespread errors
[14:14] <aetas> Sidewinder1, thats not really what I was hoping for.  I would run Unity if I could if they had the old launcher but since they don't, I'm trying to find out how to get appindicators to work on the classic gnome-panel
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> jane-: what are you doing in order to  generate that error message?
[14:14] <BHSPitMonkey> it's one thing for a single service to stop working, but you have dozens it seems
[14:14] <Polah> BHSPitMonkey, jane-: Have you attempted a SMART test yet to check if the disk is functional?
[14:14] <aetas> brb gonna go switch back to classic
[14:15] <dmsuperman> How do I arrange things on the unity bar?
[14:15] <tftech> ActionParsnip: did the install nvidia-current. Going to reboot now
[14:15] <jane-> ActionParsnip gatway dell,  e6300
[14:15] <dmsuperman> I don't like the ordering
[14:15] <dmsuperman> And dragging just seems to drag the whole list up and down
[14:16] <jane-> Polah you mean fsck?
[14:16] <aetas> much much better
[14:16] <punkinhell> Hey guys, i have skype installed.....but when i call skype users using windows, everything is working fine....but when i call skype users using ubuntu...no sound is heard on both sides...what might be the problem???
[14:16] <BHSPitMonkey> jane-: SMART test is a hardware-level test for the disk (fsck is a filesystem-level test)
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> jane-: then its not a dell. Its a gateway e6300
[14:17] <jane-> ActionParsnip iam just seeing and typing the error
[14:17] <mman> how do i define an environmental variable?
[14:17] <Polah> jane-: That's for the file system. Go to System > Disk Utility, select the drive, go to SMART Data and check self test.
[14:17] <BHSPitMonkey> jane-: though I would bet that if you run fsck, you'll encounter some errors with your filesystem
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> jane-: if you add the boot option: nomodeset   you should get a boot
[14:17] <aetas> unity does nothing more than make my carpal tunnel worse
[14:17] <jane-> ActionParsnip dell is printed but never mind
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> mman: set it in ~/.bashrc
[14:17] <ionite> ActionParsnip: so how should i go about to install the alternative?
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> punkinhell, Perhaps since Micro$oft bought skype?
[14:18] <rundgren> hello everyone, I'm on Natty with btrfs, encrypted, and no separate /boot. I'm getting the "sparse file not allowed" error from Grub at boot, can anyone point me to a solution, please?
[14:18] <jane-> Polah 1. iam using kubuntu, 2.  what will that do?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> ionite: download and md5 test the ISO and transfer to the USB, its EXACTLY the same method as you did with the desktop ISO
[14:18] <mman> ActionParsnip, I know, but how should it looks like? export VARIABLE=whatever?
[14:18] <punkinhell> Sidewinder1 : Nice one mate :)
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> ionite: try websearching a little, you'llfind your own answers a lot of the time, if you get no joy then ask
[14:18] <ionite> ActionParsnip: but my iso stated alternateXXX.ISO
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[14:18] <jane-> ActionParsnip how to add that option. and where in?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> mman: absolutely
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | jane-
[14:19] <Polah> jane-: I'm sure someone can tell you the way to run a SMART test with KDE. It'll run a series of tests such as writes, passes reads and suchlike to locate bad sectors and such and check the performance of the drive
[14:19] <aetas> ionite, whats wrong?
[14:19] <mman> ActionParsnip, i've seen soething like: export PATH=$PATH:whatever   what is the difference?
[14:19] <ionite> aetas: black screen. and i'm stuck at User Login:_
[14:19]  * Sidewinder1 Is glad that aetas booted into classic! :-)
[14:20] <JonathanLima> could someone give me a hand at permissioning a svn repository?
[14:20] <iceroot> JonathanLima: #svn
[14:21] <rundgren> has anyone solved the problem with "no sparse file allowed" errors from Grub on btrfs in Natty?
[14:21] <aetas> ionite, heh so login?
[14:21] <ionite> aetas: any ways u can help me please? i've just passed nomodeset and i'm now prompted for User Login and i still cant get into my main frame
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> mman: export sets a variable, modifying the path will add a folder to the locations looked in when you run commands
[14:21] <JonathanLima> iceroot: i think it´s actually a permission problem... and not svn problem
[14:21] <ionite> aetas: it kept prompting login incorrect
[14:21] <iceroot> JonathanLima: file permission or svn-repo permission?
[14:21] <mman> ActionParsnip, didnt understand that :S sorry
[14:21] <aetas> Sidewinder1, it drives me nuts having to type out what app I want.  I always will prefer to mouse something than use the keyboard
[14:21] <wonderwal> how do you upgrade 10.10 server to 11 server?
[14:21] <Polah> rundgren: Perhaps try reinstalling GRUB. Or asking in #grub
[14:22] <iceroot> !upgrade | wonderwal
[14:22] <aetas> ionite, have you tried logging into the console from the text-console?
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> aetas, I have the same affliction. :-)
[14:22] <ionite> aetas: how do go to the text console? i'm really noob at ubuntu. please help me
[14:22] <aetas> ionite, hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 or something
[14:22] <JonathanLima> iceroot: file permission
[14:22] <aetas> Sidewinder1, yeah I dunno why they went to something so confusing.
[14:23] <Ellipsis753> Hey, I just got this "easyCAP" thing to record TV input. It appears as a webcam for the video but I cannot get any sound. Apparently it needs the microsoft generic usb audio driver. Is there anyway I can get it to work?
[14:23] <JonathanLima> iceroot: file permission from the files that are the repo, actually
[14:23] <ionite> aetas: i tried the text console to log in but it says login incorrect when i use suko adduser ubuntu admin
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> mman: if you run:   echo $PATH    you willsee the folders the interpretter looks in (and the order) which is will try to find the command you run
[14:23] <Polah> ionite: the ubuntu user should already exist on a LiveCD.
[14:23] <aetas> ionite, then your login is hosed and you need to reset the password for the user you forgot
[14:24] <iceroot> JonathanLima: and what issue exactly? who is the owner? subversion is running as "svn"?
[14:24] <ionite> Polah: So what should I do?
[14:24] <JonathanLima> iceroot: i keep getting: Can't open file '/var/local/portalJP/db/txn-current-lock': Permission denied, when i try to commit anything... even tho i have permission on that file
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> mman: you don't run:  /usr/bin/firefox   do you, you just run:  firefox    the interpretter starts looking throuh the folders til it hits the binary
[14:24] <rundgren> thanks, polah  - will ask in #grub
[14:24] <Polah> ionite: When you switch to a TTY it should prompt you for a login, right? It'll say "<hostname> login:"
[14:24] <iceroot> JonathanLima: svn must have permissions, not you
[14:24] <JonathanLima> iceroot: subversion is running as root, the owner is svn:svn... and my user belongs to svn group... permissions are set 775
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> mman: setting variables with export is nothing like this, it is used like in programming and they can hold strings, values and folder locations
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> mman: clearer?
[14:25] <iceroot> JonathanLima: never ever!!! run svn as root
[14:25] <JonathanLima> iceroot: it´s just a local server
[14:25] <_eddie_> i have a problem with splash screen resolution. It starts in the right resolution and then it switches back to a lower resolution at the very end of booting (just before login screen). Is there a way to set the same resolution for whole process?
[14:25] <iceroot> JonathanLima: doesnt matter
[14:26] <ionite> Polah: how do i go to TTY?
[14:26] <koichirose> I set environmnent variables in my .bashrc file. Is it correct? It's not really working: I can echo the variables from bash, but can't use them in a script.
[14:26] <Polah> ionite: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[14:26] <jane-> Polah what is the package name for smart ... ill install it
[14:26] <ionite> aetas: how do i reset password
[14:26] <mman> ActionParsnip, yes that was clear for me from the beginning but my question is, how should i declare the variable cuz ive seen two ways 1) export FIREFOX=/usr/bin/firefox   and 2) export FIREFOX=$FIREFOX:/usr/bin/firefox
[14:26] <sysdoc> Appearance Preferences> where have we hidden the setting to enable compiz?
[14:26] <JonathanLima> iceroot: ok, i´m already running it from svn user
[14:26] <sipior> koichirose: how are you setting the variables?
[14:26] <aetas> ionite, boot off a rescue cd and either manually edit the password in /etc/shadow or use a tool to do it
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> mman: use 1, you can then run:    exec $FIREFOX     and it will run
[14:27] <ionite> Polah: please guide me step by step? what do i do after ctrl alt f1?
[14:27] <Polah> jane-:  What you're looking for is KDE Partition Manager. I imagine you already have it installed. I can't tell you the specifics of running a SMART test with it thought since I've never used it.
[14:27] <Polah> ionite: It prompts you for a login, correct? What exactly is the problem you're attempting to solve, by the way?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> mman: adding 2 after 1 will mean FIREFOX is equal to:   /usr/bin/firefox:/usr/bin/firefox      which isn't incredibly useful
[14:28] <ionite> aetas: a rescue CD? meaning my USB which i used to install?
[14:28] <koichirose> sipior: VARIABLE=/path/to/dir
[14:28] <aetas> ionite, sure
[14:28] <_eddie_> is there a log for screen resolution changes?
[14:28] <ionite> Polah: i'm trying to get pass the black screen
[14:28] <sipior> koichirose: try "export VARIABLE=foo"
[14:28] <ionite> i'm still stuck at the black screen for days!
[14:28] <edbian> ionite: Did you try nomodeset?
[14:29] <jane-> Polah what is the command to install smart test . apt-get .. ?
[14:29] <mman> ActionParsnip, yup ill try 1 then ;) thanks
[14:29] <ionite> edbian: i tried then i arrive at the login screen
[14:29] <Hyperbyte> In the language selector, I have installed Dutch language, but it still stays greyed out as a language choice.  What can I do to make this system Dutch?
[14:29] <Polah> ionite: Just a black screen with no prompt whatsoever? Just when it boots up, correct?
[14:29] <_eddie_>                                                                        is there a log for screen resolution changes?
[14:29] <ionite> Polah: that's right
[14:29] <ionite> edbian: i dun know what to do at the log in screen
[14:29] <Polah> jane-: There's nothing to install. Look for the KDE Partition Manager and look for an option to run a SMART test in that somewhere. If you ask in #kubuntu they can probably tell you how.
[14:29] <edbian> ionite: So you press shift at boot?
[14:29] <JonathanLima> iceroot: any ideas what could be?
[14:30] <Polah> ionite: And you haven't tried the alternate CD like someone suggested above?
[14:30] <edbian> ionite: And you get the grue menu right?
[14:30] <ionite> edbian: yep and i pressed E
[14:30] <koichirose> sipior, it works, thanks
[14:30] <edbian> ionite: You pressed e on the first line right?
[14:30] <sipior> koichirose: no trouble
[14:30] <ionite> Polah: i d/l the alternate CD.ISO and md5sum check it and checks is fine
[14:30] <phper_> got to go
[14:30] <Polah> edbian: Better watch out for that grue menu, it might eat someone.
[14:30] <phper_> good evening
[14:30] <jane-> Polah theres not optioin in kde partition manager for smart tests
[14:30] <Polah> ionite: Is that what you're on now.
[14:30] <edbian> Polah: ahahah
[14:30] <jane-> Polah which app did YOU USED that had smart functions
[14:31] <jane-> ?
[14:31] <ionite> edbian: yes i press E and go to first line and i typed : nomodeset
[14:31] <edbian> ionite: Polah didn't mean to hijack things
[14:31] <Polah> jane-: Apparently there is, according to a bit of searching I did. Ask in #kubuntu for how to do it specifically. I used GNOME's Disk Utility, which you don't have because you're using KDE. You probably won't be able to install it without the entire GNOME environment either.
[14:31] <ionite> please help me guys! i'm really @ a mess here for days stuck at the ubuntu
[14:31] <ionite> i feel like giving up natty and go back to windows.
[14:31] <edbian> ionite: no, you press e on the first line.  It should be something like ubuntu kernel 2.6.28-24-generic blah blah
[14:31] <edbian> ionite: Awww  :( don't give up!
[14:32] <ionite> edbian: so i'm stuck at the login in screen for now.
[14:32] <edbian> ionite: The login screen?
[14:32] <ionite> edbian: yes the login text prompt.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> ionite: use the alternate installer
[14:32] <edbian> ionite: what does it say?
[14:32] <ionite> ActionParsnip: i installed the alternate installer on my USB.
[14:32] <leafcutter9000> ionite: Try Fedora, it comes with GNOME 3 which some people prefer to the Ubuntu interface
[14:32] <edbian> ActionParsnip: he already installed
[14:32] <edbian> ionite: please ignore the peanut gallery
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> edbian: gotcha
[14:33] <edbian> ActionParsnip: :)
[14:33] <d_atharva> Hi...I have my computer on a LAN and I want tha anyone should be able to create or delete files and folders anytime without my permission...What and how should I set the permissions ?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> leafcutter9000: why not install LXDE in ubuntu, some people prefer that to the Ubuntu interface too....
[14:33] <edbian> ionite: what does the login screen say?  You're making me think you fixed your blank screen issue
[14:34] <iceroot> JonathanLima: can you paste the permission of that file please
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> d_atharva: what OS is the file server?
[14:34] <Polah> d_atharva: Set the directory permissions that you want people to be able to create/delete/modify files in to 777 or 766, or 776
[14:34] <antii> hmmpf, some ugly noises come to my headphones in ubuntu, like static sounds, cant explain :P
[14:34] <aetas> awesome...get to spend an hour watching a tech write numbers down onto a notepad
[14:35] <Polah> antii: Could be a hardware problem, i.e. they're not plugged in properly, give that a check first.
[14:35] <ionite> edbian: i typed nomodeset and now i'm at User Login:_
[14:35] <edbian> ionite: hello?
[14:35] <Ellipsis753> anyone know where I should ask about getting the ubuntu driver for microsoft's generic usb audio device?
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[14:35] <edbian> ionite: oh yay!  That's tremendous progress :)
[14:35] <edbian> ionite: log in and type sudo gdm
[14:35] <ionite> edbian: sorry i mean Ubuntu Login:_
[14:35] <aetas> Ellipsis753, I dont think microsoft makes generic usb audio devices so Im assuming you read this from the Windows device manager?
[14:36] <ionite> edbian: what do i type as login ID?
[14:36] <leafcutter9000> ActionParsnip: True, LXDE is nice also
[14:36] <edbian> ionite: Your username
[14:36] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: are you on the live cd, or an installed copy of ubuntu?
[14:36] <edbian> ionite: Ubuntu is up and running (which is good) and we just have to fix your graphics
[14:36] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: he's installed
[14:36] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: he installed and got a blank screen.  turned on nomodeset and now has a CLI login.
[14:36] <ionite> edbian: are u sure? it's the user ID and password i set during the installtation right?
[14:37] <edbian> ionite: yes
[14:37] <mendel_> guys lspci | grep -i Philips is showing my DVB-C TV card
[14:37] <d_atharva> polah : how to set it to 777 or 766 ? can you please guide me ?
[14:37] <edbian> ionite: I'm sure about everything I've said :)
[14:37] <ionite> finally someone undrestand me
[14:37] <mendel_> but w_scan is saying there is no active dvb-c tv card
[14:37] <edbian> ionite: awwww
[14:37] <Polah> Ellipsis753, aetas: I believe Windows just names devices "Generic USB Audio Device" when it doesn't recognise the actual hardware model, due there being nothing but generic drivers for it or something along those lines
[14:37] <edbian> :)
[14:37] <jane-> is ther a drive test utility with KDE. It'll run a series of tests such as writes, passes reads and suchlike to locate bad sectors and such and check the performance of the drive ?
[14:37] <edbian> ionite: We're soul mates?
[14:37] <Polah> d_atharva: chmod <permission> <directory>
[14:38] <mendel_> someone knows anything about tv cards?
[14:38] <ionite> edbian: now i'm at ionite@ubuntu:~$
[14:38] <aetas> Polah, exactly, thats what I mean
[14:38] <JonathanLima> iceroot: sorry for the delay... it´s -rwxrwxr-x 1 svn svn 0
[14:38] <edbian> ionite: You're logged in which is great.  It means the system is working (except for graphics).  Can you run sudo gdm ?
[14:38] <BHSPitMonkey> mendel_: #mythbuntu will probably have more people who know about those
[14:38] <mendel_> thnx
[14:39] <edbian> ionite: gdm is the graphical login manager.  It will start the GUI for you
[14:39] <ionite> edbian: i need specific instructions and commands as i'm a noob to natty.
[14:39] <edbian> ionite: sudo gdm
[14:39] <d_atharva> polah : how to confirm whether it is set or not ?
[14:39] <edbian> ionite: type that and press enter
[14:39] <ionite> edbian: so i enter this: 'sudo gdm' ?
[14:39] <edbian> ionite: yes
[14:40] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: yes, and then it will ask you for your password once again
[14:40] <Ellipsis753> Polah and aetas, sorry I'd just seen it writen somewhere and I assumed it was a thing.
[14:40] <iceroot> JonathanLima: strange, even svn should write into that
[14:40] <ionite> edbian: it'll look like this: ionite@ubuntu:~$ sudo gdm              is it correct?
[14:40] <edbian> ionite: yes
[14:40] <edbian> ionite: press enter
[14:40] <ionite> edbian: so what do i do when it ask me for my password?
[14:40] <Polah> d_atharva: If you run ls -l in the directory that the directory you want people to be able to write into and look for the line with that directory, at the beginning it'll say something like drwxrwxrwx, the last three characters should be "rw-" or "rwx"
[14:40] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: give it your password again
[14:40] <aetas> Ellipsis753, nah not likely, however if you type lsusb in a terminal it will tell you what it is
[14:40] <JonathanLima> iceroot: i know... that´s why i came here to ask
[14:41] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: note that it won't look like anything is being typed, this is normal
[14:41] <JonathanLima> iceroot: is there a way to log the file´s access? maybe it´s not using svn´s user?
[14:41] <edbian> ionite: yes, you won't see the password.
[14:41] <Polah> aetas, Ellipsis753 you mean lspci, lsusb would just show usb devices
[14:42] <dori922> hey bro's
[14:42] <edbian> dori922: hello
[14:42] <dori922> \;d
[14:42] <aetas> Polah, and being he said it was a usb audio device....
[14:42] <dori922> *:D
[14:42] <ionite> edbian: it says GDM command not found
[14:42] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: it says gdm command not found
[14:42] <edbian> ionite: really...
[14:42] <ionite> edbian: yes
[14:42] <edbian> ionite: you used what installer?
[14:43] <Polah> aetas: Oh yes, I forgot.
[14:43] <rww> sudo service gdm start, yo
[14:43] <edbian> rww: He used the alternate installer.  gdm is missing perhaps?
[14:43] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: try 'sudo service gdm start' (without quotes)
[14:44] <Polah> What was the login system that Ubuntu was switching to with 11.10, because it's lighter than GDM?
[14:44] <edbian> Polah: lightdm
[14:44] <Polah> edbian: Thank you
[14:45] <edbian> Polah: sure
[14:45] <d_atharva> Polah : No its not saying.......Can you give me an example how can I set permission for /home/user/Pubilc folder ?
[14:45] <JonathanLima> is there a way to log who´s accessing a file?
[14:45] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: Sudo: Sudo Service gdm start produced this: Sudo: unregcognized service
[14:46] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: all lowercase
[14:46] <ionite> edbian: Sudo Service gdm start produced this: Sudo: unregcognized service
[14:46] <aetas> JonathanLima, do you need to log who accesses a file or do you just need to be able to see who is accessing it?
[14:46] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i did all lower case
[14:46] <Polah> da_atharva: cd ~ and then do chmod 777 Public
[14:46] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: are you positive? and is that the exact message it showed you?
[14:47] <edbian> ionite: what you copied / pasted to use has uppercase S in Sudo and Service.  Make sure allt eh commands are all lower case
[14:47] <ionite> yes
[14:47] <JonathanLima> aetas: who accesses... it could be on screen log
[14:47] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: he's not copying/pasting anything, he doesn't even have X
[14:47] <mendel_> how do I let ubuntu reinstall my pci card
[14:47] <ionite> edbian: all commands are lower cased i tried it already.
[14:47] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: good point
[14:47] <mendel_> I've added some drivers to the blacklist and want to reinstall the pci card
[14:47] <edbian> ionite: ok, sudo apt-get install gdm
[14:47] <Mono> **************** Join #wolfgame
[14:47] <edbian> ionite: what does it say?
[14:47] <aetas> JonathanLima, that I don't know off the top of my head, if you just needed to be able to see who accesses it I was gonna suggest lsof
[14:47] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: does the computer have a wired internet connection?
[14:47] <orated> How to check which version of Ubuntu I'm using?
[14:48] <edbian> orated: cat /etc/issue
[14:48] <d_atharva> Polah : And what if I need to remove it ?
[14:48] <orated> Thank you edbian
[14:48] <edbian> orated: sure
[14:48] <love4linux> hello everyone... how can I check the integrity of an unsigned tool?
[14:49] <Polah> d_atharva: rmdir <name> for an empty directory, rm -r <name> for a directory with stuff in it.
[14:49] <ionite> edbian: wireless connection yes.
[14:49] <orated> edbian: I see Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l What \n and \l for?
[14:49] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: wireless yes
[14:49] <edbian> orated: new line
[14:49] <ionite> edbian: i'm prompted package gdm is not available.  Package GDM has no installation candidate
[14:50] <BHSPitMonkey> d_atharva: always be careful using 'rm -r', as if you accidentally hit Enter too soon, you could end up losing a LOT of files permanently
[14:50] <JonathanLima> aetas: lsof could be used to continuous?
[14:50] <edbian> ionite: well, you're not online so it won't be able to find it right now
[14:50] <dori922> i love it when you think a system has hanged and then it continues and your like SCOOOORE!
[14:50] <aetas> JonathanLima, no thats why I said other than that I dont know
[14:50] <pcoder> Hello group, Can somebody give me a hint of email reminder software or script, I would like to have it for checking the diskspace of my server??
[14:50] <ionite> edbian: i'm on USB wireless
[14:50] <edbian> ionite: because you didn't connect to a wifi network.  (which I'm not sure is even going to be working)
[14:50] <JonathanLima> aetas: i see... thanks anyway =]
[14:50] <BHSPitMonkey> dori922: I usually spam NumLock for a while until the LED stops working, then I give up hope :)
[14:50] <edbian> ionite: Yeah but you didn't connect to a wifi network using ubuntu
[14:50] <ionite> edbian: how do i connect to a wifi network at this text stage?
[14:50] <edbian> ionite: yeah, that's the hard part.
[14:51] <edbian> ionite: first: sudo iwlist scan    does it list any networks?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> edbian: looks like you got it dude :)
[14:51] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: are we really assuming that his installer "forgot" to install gdm?
[14:51] <edbian> ActionParsnip: :)
[14:51] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: He used the alternate installer.  I think he didn't tell it to install gdm (or gnome)
[14:51] <edbian> wait
[14:52] <edbian> ionite: You installed with the alternate installer?
[14:52] <d_atharva> Polah , BHSPitMonkey : Thanks ...
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> edbian: what was the magic bullet?
[14:52] <italoxp> Hey guys, can you help me?
[14:52] <edbian> ActionParsnip: It's not fixed yet.  We're trying to connect to wifi via cli.  He used nomodeset to fix the blank screen problem.
[14:52] <Polah> italoxp: If you tell us what the problem is, there's a fair chance we could.
[14:52] <italoxp> Compiz is not decorating windows here.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> edbian: nice
[14:53] <edbian> italoxp: turn on window decoration plugin in ccsm
[14:53] <italoxp> I did
[14:53] <ionite> edbian: yes alternate installer
[14:53] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: I didn't think alt even gives you that choice
[14:53] <edbian> italoxp: restart
[14:53] <ionite> edbian: iwlist command not found
[14:53] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: any way out of this?
[14:53] <italoxp> I tried...
[14:53]  * Sidewinder1 Bangs head on desk!
[14:54] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: What is the installer that asks you what to install during install time?  Not alternate?
[14:54] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: Why does every command he types say 'command not found' :(
[14:54] <aetas> ionite, try /sbin/iwlist
[14:54] <aetas> ionite, I thought you were just going to reset the password
[14:54] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: type 'which gdm', hit enter, and tell us what it says
[14:55] <ionite> edbian: can i try sudo apt-usb add?
[14:55] <chenthu> where to get 64 bit driver for nvidia geforce go 6150
[14:55] <aetas> apt-usb?
[14:55] <edbian> ionite: that isn't a valid command?
[14:55] <aetas> are you making this stuff up now?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: I have the same chip in natty, works well
[14:55] <edbian> chenthu: search 'nvidia' in the repos.  There is more than one driver
[14:55] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: where did you get that idea? try the thing I asked
[14:55] <edbian> aetas: what?
[14:56] <chenthu> actionpasnip : i am stuggling to install natty for the past 72 hrs
[14:56] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: perhaps he should echo $SHELL
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: what is the output of the command? Use a pastebin to host
[14:56] <edbian> chenthu: What specifically are you struggling with?
[14:56] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i tried which gdm nothing shows up. it just hows a new line
[14:56] <chenthu> actionparsnip: i dont have ineternet connection  so i have to download 64-bit driver
[14:57] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: that command does the same for me...
[14:57] <edbian> ionite: me too :P
[14:57] <italoxp> edbian, restarted and now compiz is decorating windows, thank you
[14:57] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: you don't have gdm?
[14:57] <edbian> italoxp: sure
[14:57] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: I do.
[14:57] <italoxp> edbian, but I can't move them
[14:57] <chenthu> edbian: problems with driver...display...black screen and other probs
[14:57] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: that's what confused me
[14:57] <edbian> italoxp: turn on the move plugin ;)
[14:57] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: that's puzzling. It should give you the path to the gdm binary
[14:57] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: how about 'which startx'
[14:58] <ionite> aetas: /sbin/iwlist says no such directory on my screen
[14:58] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey:  which startx works for me (prints the path), which gdm prints nothing.
[14:58] <chenthu> edbian: i am not able to install natty from usb... i get a discoloured corrupted screen
[14:58] <italoxp> Thank you again, edbian
[14:58] <edbian> italoxp: haha, sure
[14:58] <aetas> ionite, what are you trying to do anyway?
[14:58] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: maybe you accidentally installed kubuntu and never noticed? :)
[14:58] <edbian> chenthu: Mmmm, that's not good.  It works from a liveCD?
[14:59] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: hahahah, that is not the case :(
[14:59] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: which startx doesn't show anything but a new line of command.
[14:59] <BHSPitMonkey> aetas: his system boots to a black screen and we're trying to solve why
[14:59] <italoxp> But edbian , I have one more question. Why Unity always bugs when I change a setting at ccsm?
[14:59] <BHSPitMonkey> aetas: we've got him booted to a CLI to try some things.
[14:59] <ionite> aetas: get into my GNOME mainframe
[14:59] <italoxp> Like, glitches on the sidebar and the menubar
[14:59] <edbian> italoxp: cause ccsm is buggy
[14:59] <chenthu> nope
[14:59] <italoxp> It's a known bug, edbian ?
[14:59] <edbian> italoxp: well, more directly, compiz is buggy
[14:59] <aetas> ionite, I was under the impression it was a black login screen
[14:59] <chenthu> edbian: nope
[14:59] <edbian> italoxp: IDK, the bugs many and listed on launchpad
[15:00] <edbian> chenthu: So you can't install?
[15:00] <italoxp> Ok, edbian , thank you
[15:00] <ionite> aetas: yes. now i am still in the login screen but the gdm is the problem
[15:00] <edbian> italoxp: sure
[15:00] <chenthu> i installed some how using the cpmplex alternate download iso
[15:00] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: I have a /usr/sbin/gdm and a /usr/sbin/gdmsetup
[15:00] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: try 'echo $SHELL'
[15:00] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: strange to say the least
[15:01] <aetas> ionite, have you been able to login atleast?  where were you typing iwlist?
[15:01] <chenthu> but while loggin i get blsck screen and "ICEauthority"
[15:01] <chenthu> and other errors
[15:01] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: uh, maybe /usr/sbin isn't in your path??
[15:01] <edbian> aetas: fixed that :)
[15:01] <aetas> ah
 : I want to set permissions of my computer in such way that any one on LAN network in my office should be able to create and delete files and folders without my permissions
[15:01] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: that would be why! :P
[15:01] <aetas> ionite, I'd check to make sure /tmp or /var isn't full
[15:01] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: have him run sudo which gdm
[15:01] <edbian> aetas: He just installed
[15:01] <BHSPitMonkey> d_atharva: over what protocol?
[15:02] <aetas> edbian, this is a fresh install?
[15:02] <BHSPitMonkey> aetas: fresh alternate cd install
[15:02] <edbian> aetas: He just installed using the alternate installer.  He has never logged in.
 : Means ???  Its a LAN workgroup
[15:02] <aetas> hrm
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: you could pull down the packages individually and let the system tell you what you need to install to satisfy deps. I suggest you get a web connection to not only install the driver but also to get updates
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> !away > go8765432_away
[15:03] <justmozzy> hi guys, I've been searching now for a while on google but couldn't find the answer. I used to transfer files via the ssh command since my server doesn't support scp. can someon remind me how to do that?
[15:03] <dori922> is there any work around to "version 'x' bad syntax: version number does not start with digit"]
[15:03] <fonrithirong> hello. i'm having problem with my power management pref. it says i have 0% battery time left and it won't charge. but right now i'm running out of the battery and it seems to be working fine
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> justmozzy: is openssh-server running on the server side?
[15:03] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: bin/bash
[15:03] <abid> sdf
[15:03] <ionite> edbian: will i be able to get over this problem?
[15:04] <ionite> aetas: how do i check if it isn't full?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> justmozzy: once that's installed you can use scp just fine
[15:04] <chenthu> actionparsnip: i can only connect using wifi...but when i run "iwlist scan" i doesnt detect the ssid
[15:04] <GladiusMaximus> are there any good desktop enviornments (not gnome3, KDE4, or Unity) that i can install on Ubuntu?
[15:04] <aetas> ionite, df -h
[15:04] <edbian> fonrithirong: Let it charge and discharge completely 2 or 3 times and see if it gets better at predicting
[15:04] <justmozzy> ActionParsnip: how can I check? well I can logon via SSH but running the SCP command gives me a compatibility error. I used to use the ssh command alone with some piping to do the same. can't remember though how
[15:04] <edbian> ionite: yes
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: do you use hidden SSID?
[15:04] <ThinkT510> GladiusMaximus: xfce or lxde
[15:04] <aetas> edbian, did you guys check the X logs and all?
[15:04] <abid> caranya njebol wifi gimana?
[15:05] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: is there -any- way you could get a wired internet connection plugged into this box?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> justmozzy: scp should be contactable by nautilus, filezilla  can also do it
[15:05] <justmozzy> ActionParsnip: and I don't have root access to fix things. Admin won't give me the access and won't fix it either... grrr...
[15:05] <chenthu> nope
[15:05] <edbian> aetas: He finally logged into CLI and I said run 'sudo gdm' and bash said no command found.  Now we're looking for it.
[15:05] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: move it near a router if you must?
[15:05] <justmozzy> ActionParsnip: Am going over command line. Have to jump over several servers
[15:05] <BHSPitMonkey> or bring your modem into the room
[15:05] <chenthu> actionparsnip:nope.....i can find it on my windows...why not ubuntu?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> justmozzy: if ssh is running, the admin may have disabled scp
[15:05] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i can get it wired but i'm in text based mode how can initiate a connection via LAN?
[15:05] <fonrithirong> edbian, i also can't restart w/o plugging in because i'll get low battery critical, is this ok? (but i'll try that. thank you)
[15:05] <aetas> ionite, in that case run "sudo -i gdm"
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: run:  dmesg | less     and see if your wireless device needs any extra stuffs
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: could always use a wired connection
[15:06] <GladiusMaximus> ThinkT510: aren't LXDE and XFCE only for old computers
[15:06] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: it's going to be tough-to-impossible to get a wifi connection up, especially considering it appears the wifi tools aren't installed on your machine
[15:06] <chenthu> actionparsnip: ok
[15:06] <edbian> fonrithirong: It's just estimating your battery life incorrectly.
[15:06] <ThinkT510> GladiusMaximus: no, they are lightweight and work great on modern hardware
[15:06] <fonrithirong> edbian, ok, thank you so much!
[15:06] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: I think he installed near nothing using the alternate installer
[15:06] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: if you could get some internets flowing into your ethernet port, you could at least install the missing packages
[15:06] <ThinkT510> GladiusMaximus: i always use xfce
[15:06] <orated> What does /etc /var etc partitions mean? Is thier an website which can help me understand it?
[15:06] <edbian> fonrithirong: sure, not sure it will fix itself though! :P
[15:07] <edbian> ionite: Did you install using the alternate installer because of the blank screen problem?
[15:07] <GladiusMaximus> ThinkT510: i will take a look at them
[15:07] <justmozzy> ActionParsnip: do you think cat filename > ssh user@host would work?
[15:07] <jane-> can you tell me comand to test sda ? in smartctl
[15:07] <bamprok> yes
[15:07] <chenthu> actionparsnip: when i run that. i get a flood of details which keepos scrolling when i press enter
[15:07] <d_atharva> Hi...when some computer on a LAN network creates a folder in my computer,the permission is set to nobody.How to avoid it ?? I want everyone on the network should acces that folder
[15:07] <bamprok> smartctl
[15:07] <BHSPitMonkey> orated: the top level of a linux filesystem is made up of folders like /etc, /home, /boot, and so on. You can tell the computer to make any of them live on their own hard drive, or hard drive partition
[15:08] <ionite> edbian: yes
[15:08] <chenthu> actionparsnip: right now i think only my nouveau driver is activre
[15:08] <ThinkT510> orated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[15:08] <ionite> aetas: gdm command not found
[15:08] <BHSPitMonkey> orated: I keep my /home folder on a separate partition from my main OS, so that when I need to reinstall ubuntu, my home and settings don't get erased
[15:08] <seven_> hi, i can connect vpn via vpnc at console but not with network-manager-vpnc -> invalid secrets :( i use natty 11.04 german
[15:08] <edbian> ionite: BHSPitMonkey aetas perhaps it would be easiest / best to re-install using the normal installer and the nomodeset option turned on.
[15:09] <edbian> ionite: You see, many things are missing from your install that we're going to have to install anyway.
[15:09] <bamprok> "!bot @help"
[15:09] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: is it certain that if i can plug in a LAN connection I'll be able to d/l?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: yes, that's normal
[15:09] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: almost positive
[15:09] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: which ubuntu CDs have you burned so far?
[15:09] <edbian> ionite: Yes, do you have the original installer laying around?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> justmozzy: I doubt it, You can also use nautilus to access it, does this not work?
[15:09] <ThinkT510> orated: how did your install go?
[15:09] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i burned none because i got no CD writer
[15:09] <chenthu> actionparsnip; i have to keep scrolling?
[15:10] <ionite> edbian: its in my USB drive the alternate installer
[15:10] <orated> Thanks BHSPitMonkey ThinkT510
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: yes, keep reading down. You can stop when you see a line regarding ipv6
[15:10] <Sidewinder1> ionite, After watching this for about two hours now, my advice would be: move your computer to where ever you can get wired internet; fresh install the ubuntu version of your choosing...
[15:10] <justmozzy> ActionParsnip: unfortunately no. I can't access the server that I want to put the file on from my network. have to ssh to my office server and from the transfer the file to the other server :s
[15:10] <orated> ThinkT510: It went fine :-)
[15:10] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: okay, so the alternate installer is the only one you have available to you at the moment? Or do you have another USB with the regular installer too?
[15:10] <ThinkT510> !yay | orated
[15:10] <chenthu> actionparsnip: ok
[15:10] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: alternate is the only one i have
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> justmozzy: can you not install apps on the client system? You can always add anaddon to your webbrowser
[15:11] <ionite> Sidewinder1: i'm so tired now. figuring out how to work this out.  feel like instaling windows.. ;(
[15:11] <aetas> edbian, why is he using the alternate anyway?
[15:11] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: it's possible that when you installed, you were given an option of what feature to install and you accidentally skipped past it without selecting anything
[15:11] <ionite> Sidewinder1: actually i spent 5 hours at this screen asking for help.
[15:11] <edbian> aetas: Becuase it was the only one that didn't boot to a blank screen.  He didn't know about nomodeset when he was installing
[15:11] <chenthu> actionparsnip: nothing sort of like that..... and i have reached the end
[15:11] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: so i'll have to reinstall my natty using alternate installation?
[15:11] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: that's my theory
[15:12] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: that, or get an internet cable hooked up
[15:12] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: if you have a slow connection, trying the usb again might be faster
[15:12] <Sidewinder1> ionite, Alternate cd is more difficult than Desktop; especially for newer users, with all due respect, of course. :-)
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: you arent looking for ipv6 you are looking for lines relating to your wireless device
[15:12] <wasanzy> hi guys. am trying to compile zaptel and even dahdilinux, but am getting this error: fatal error: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory, I installed the automake but still the error is coming
[15:12] <wasanzy> what can be wrong?
[15:13] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: so i'll choose to reinstall but can i set nomodeset at the initial phase? i'm using unetbootin
[15:13] <deven> in disk utility i see my swap 4gb partition when i clicked edit partition on it, i see it does not have bootable option check marked, do i need check mark it, to make it available as swap?
[15:13] <BHSPitMonkey> Sidewinder1: I believe he also had the blank screen issue with the default installer, hence the alternate
[15:13] <justmozzy> ActionParsnip: what apps would be helpful on my office server to transfer the files?
[15:13] <Sidewinder1> BHSPitMonkey, It can be frustrating...
[15:13] <chenthu> actionparsnip: yeha...any idea how it looks...casue every line looks same to me...
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> justmozzy: filezilla
[15:13] <justmozzy> ActionParsnip: ah wait... sftp is working. done
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: try reading it rather than just looking at it
[15:13] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: you should be able to, but I'm not sure.  I tend to have good luck with installers and don't have to fiddle with them much
[15:14] <ionite> Sidewinder1: i really got no idea. i am simply in a maze. trying anyting that works.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> justmozzy: sweet :)
[15:14] <ionite> how do i set nomodeset at alternate installer?
[15:14] <justmozzy> ActionParsnip: yeah filezilla wouldn't have really worked. can't use GUI apps on the office server :) but now it is fixed
[15:14] <edbian> ionite: yes you can use nomodeset
[15:14] <edbian> ionite: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[15:14] <ionite> edbian: what do i do?
[15:15] <edbian> ionite: see the bit about 'How to enable kernel options on the livecd (before install)'
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> justmozzy: as long as its fixed that's fine ;)
[15:15] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: this is a rite of passage; you're not an adult until you've spent at least a full day futsing around with a completely broken OS
[15:15] <ionite> edbian: but i'm using unetbootin can it work?
[15:15] <edbian> ionite: yep
[15:16] <edbian> ionite: you might want to get the regular installer (which will probably be closer to the installer)
[15:16] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i hope it'll be sunshine after the rain for me.
[15:16] <wasanzy> hi guys. am trying to compile zaptel and even dahdilinux, but am getting this error: fatal error: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory, I installed the automake but still the error is coming what can be wrong?
[15:16] <Sidewinder1> ionite, Might be best to give yourself some rest and come back to it. Again, my advice is to hook up your system to wired internet,... and do a fresh install of the desktop version that best suits your needs. Believe me, it'll all be worth it once you're up and running. You'll never look back at Win. :-)
[15:16] <SURFkees> Ok, so it's now actually loading gfx drivers and what not, but when starting up I now get a full black screen. I can't even do anything anymore except for using the power buttong to shutdown.
[15:16] <deven> plz help me guys disk utility i see my swap 4gb partition when i clicked edit partition on it, i see it does not have bootable option check marked, do i need check mark it, to make it available as swap?
[15:16] <SURFkees> http://pastebin.com/mG2w5yJh
[15:17] <chenthu> Actionparsnip; wil give you an example " [4749.406511]  [drm] nouveau 0000:00:05.0: PFIFO_DMA_PUSHER - Ch 0 Get 0x0000f460 State 0x80000000 Push 0x00000000
[15:17] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: if you still have the regular ubuntu installer downloaded to your good PC, I would suggest putting it back onto the flash drive
[15:17] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i only have the alternate installer now.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: i thought you were having issues with wireless? So you can install the proprietary driver....?
[15:17] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: alright then
[15:17] <ionite> edbian: but my unetbootin screen is different from the webbite u gave me.
[15:17] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: so i'll reinstall right? what do i do next?
[15:17] <n3rV3> deven, plz run this command on terminal: swapon -s
[15:18] <Dice-Man> bwahaha unebootin
[15:18] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: do you need to use nomodeset with your alternate installer, anyway? I thought the installer itself worked fine for you
[15:18] <edbian> ionite: mmm, yes I'm not sure exactly how to get to it
[15:18] <edbian> ionite: I know it is possible but I've never done it on the alternate installer + unetbootin so I don't know where to find it.
[15:18] <deven> n3rv3 i did that
[15:18] <chenthu> actionparsnip: i ahve problem with nvidia......and i just installed my b43 driver and activated my wireless card...bvut when i scan it gives no result though i could see ssid of 3 including mine...
[15:19] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: like I said, does he even need to use nomodeset on the installer itself?
[15:19] <Little-Gnome> Hey all I love linux and Don't wanna go back to winbloze but for some reason my internet is seriously slow can someone help me or give me a reason why it is slow?
[15:19] <n3rV3> deven, you see any line like this:
[15:19] <n3rV3> /dev/sda9                               partition	3905528	16480	-1
[15:19] <chenthu> actionparsnip : i am trying to use the wirless to connect to net so i can solve my nvidia issue
[15:19] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: he says even the installers give a blank screen
[15:19] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i think i need to do nomodeset because if the current problem repeats?
[15:19] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: clearly he's been able to use the installer in the past without doing it
[15:19] <deven> yes i see like that yes!!!
[15:19] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: hoestnly what is my current problem?
[15:19] <[THC]AcidRain> 0
[15:19] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: ionite wait, you said you installed using the alternate installer without nomodeset before!
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: so why do you need to look at youor video driver, if you are troubleshooting wireless......
[15:20] <ionite> edbian: would reinstaling really help? what should i avoid?
[15:20] <deven> n3rv3 but used is 0
[15:20] <jamey-uk> I upgraded my packages and now my UEFI system won't boot, how can I get grub reinstalled on there?
[15:20] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: you should only need to use nomodeset AFTER you've installed, to get into the installed system
[15:20] <chenthu> actionparnsip: but now my wireless is not connecting wither so i have to download it manuallya dn install...thats how i installed driver for my wifi
[15:20] <ionite> edbian: yes i installed w/o nomodeset
[15:20] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: just use the usb installer normally
[15:20] <n3rV3> deven, then its accessible to the system, dont edit anything
[15:20] <edbian> ionite: you need to re-install because many of your packages are missing.  Forget about nomodeset for now then.
[15:20] <n3rV3> would be zero if you have ample ram
[15:20] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: so after installation of my alternate install what do i do?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: if you look through the dmesg text you will see things relating to the WIRELESS
[15:20] <skegeek> Ubuntu installs web software to /usr/share/, how are these meant to be used...symlinking from /usr/share/ to the web root?
[15:20] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: and when the installer asks you which packages you want, consult with us
[15:20] <AviMarcus> Uh. Oops. So I set a proxy setting and did "apply system wide" and now I can't use switchy in chromium to set the proxy, it just keeps getting overwritten by stuff from this sysem wide proxy. How do I just turn off/revert the system wide changes?
[15:21] <ionite> edbian: partition can i skip the swap area option?
[15:21] <deven> n3rv3 same is with my /home folder its also same, should i make it bootable or leave it as it is
[15:21] <edbian> ionite: no, you need swap
[15:21] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: but I think his swap partition is already made
[15:21] <edbian> ionite: Is this a dual boot?
[15:21] <n3rV3> deven, plz leave it to system defaults if it is working
[15:21] <ionite> edbian: no
[15:21] <VictorCL2> why did openoffice went from open to libre ? xD
[15:21] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: yes swap part already made
[15:21] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: I have to go.  Can you help him install?
[15:21] <BHSPitMonkey> edbian: he shouldn't have to do anything in order to get it to be used
[15:21] <edbian> BHSPitMonkey: yeah
[15:21] <deven> ok thanks alot n3rv3 for quick help.
[15:21] <edbian> ionite: listen to BHSPitMonkey
[15:22] <edbian> ionite: I have to go
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: you can then get the wireless setup and connect and install the driver using the repos. ALternatively if you move the system you cna use a wired link and get updates easily
[15:22] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: so you have one partition for the OS, and one partition for swap made?
[15:22] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: two total?
[15:22] <chenthu> actionparsnip: my video driver is corrupted as well...thats the reason i wanna connect to net...and find a solution..byut then found my wireless to be  not working ...so now i installed but couldnt find hosts...so two problem one video other wireless
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> chenthu: you can use the driver from the nvidia site but it may caus issues later, your choice
[15:23] <chenthu> ActionParsnip: hmmm... trying out all options...
[15:24] <VictorCL2> will next ubuntu come with kernel 3 ?
[15:24] <ThinkT510> VictorCL2: yes
[15:24] <VictorCL2> :o
[15:24] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | VictorCL2
[15:25] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: for partitioning you should be able to do the same thing you did last time. Just make sure there's a big ext3 or ext4 partition, set to mount to '/'
[15:25] <AviMarcus> Uh. Oops. So I set a proxy setting and did "apply system wide" and now I can't use switchy in chromium to set the proxy, it just keeps getting overwritten by stuff from this sysem wide proxy. How do I just turn off/revert the system wide proxy changes?
[15:25] <VictorCL2> but .. this new theme .. unity.. is a relly cheap copy of mac .. how with so many good graphic designers ..etc .. willing to help .. you come up with something like that?? .. is it so hard to make a goo UI?
[15:25] <jamey-uk> VictorCL2: yes, have you seen Windows?
[15:26] <ThinkT510> !ot
[15:26] <VictorCL2> yes
[15:26] <sipior> VictorCL2: no one like an ingrate.
[15:26] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: now i can't even boot from my USB
[15:26] <BHSPitMonkey> VictorCL2: make your own. I'm sure with your superior design skills, whatever OS you create will take over Ubuntu in popularity
[15:26] <VictorCL2> I am no designer ^^
[15:26] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: wat.
[15:27] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i don't know why even when i selected my BIOS to boot from USB it keeps going back to boot natty instead of prompting me to install.
[15:27] <VictorCL2> and it was just a though ¬¬
[15:27] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: and usb is ahead of hard disks in the boot order?
[15:27] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i even disabled HDD to boot and solely selected to boot from my USB only and it cant
[15:28] <jamey-uk> Can anyone help me with UEFI boot problems?
[15:28] <siavoshkc> how can I be multi task in terminal
[15:28] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: feel like giving up....
[15:29] <d_atharva> hi....can anyone tell me whats the diffrence between /etc/samba/smb.conf     and      /usr.share/samba/smb.conf    files ?
[15:29] <Benkinooby> siavoshkc, how do you exactly imganine this? have multiple input possibilites in one termina?
[15:29] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: weird. If you can get the machine connected to the internet, you should be able to solve everything pretty fast.
[15:29] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: i need to rest and maybe i'll try again another day. sighs. what's ur email? i need to keep in touch with ur wonderful help.
[15:29] <ionite> aetas: Thanks for ur help
[15:29] <Benkinooby> siavoshkc, or run two progs simultaniously
[15:30] <siavoshkc> yeah
[15:30] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: try to get the machine hooked up to the internet, and do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[15:30] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: actually do 'sudo apt-get update' before doing that
[15:30] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: fundamentally not being about to boot from USB already spells somethign wrong?
[15:30] <DJones> siavoshkc: you should be able to open more than one tab within terminal and be able to switch between them, or you could use "screen" to have apps running in a terminal window even when the terminal windows has been closed
[15:31] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: that would be related to your BIOS and the drive itself, and honestly there are lots of possibilities
[15:31] <Benkinooby> siavoshkc, mabye you are interested in screen or tmux. both of them will "split" so you can use the splits like windows... the best know packages for that is screen. if you want something more modern, go for tmux. http://tmux.sourceforge.net/ best thing you install  both and see what you like
[15:31] <justmozzy> can anyone point me to a direction on how to install a SSL certificate in apache?
[15:31] <siavoshkc> I mean no X windows or such thing
[15:31] <siavoshkc> only one terminal
[15:31] <the-ubuntu-user> hi, Is there anything on ubuntu similar to YUMI, for multibooting USB disks?
[15:31] <BHSPitMonkey> siavoshkc: look into GNU Screen
[15:31] <Benkinooby> siavoshkc, this is without X ... it is pure console
[15:31] <coz_> siavoshkc,   you can also install   terminator   a nice terminal emulator
[15:31] <DJones> !screen | siavoshkc
[15:31] <BHSPitMonkey> siavoshkc: that ^
[15:32] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: what's ur email?
[15:32] <siavoshkc> so I need an extra tool
[15:32] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: sorry, I'd rather not give it out. But the fine people who frequent this channel know as much as I do
[15:32] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: how certain are u that if i hooked up with a wired connection i am able to to d/l the updates while at the text based console?
[15:33] <siavoshkc> ok
[15:33] <siavoshkc> Than You
[15:33] <Benkinooby> siavoshkc, yes
[15:33] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: it's ok. i'll be back friday after some rests.
[15:33] <Benkinooby> siavoshkc, they also have some good advantages
[15:33] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: pretty certain, barring additional problems. Just write down those two commands.
[15:33] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: 'sudo apt-get update', then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[15:33] <Benkinooby> siavoshkc, both of them can "connect" to their "windows" and "unconnect"... so you run a program, disconnect and connect later when you need it... so you can save monitor space
[15:33] <siavoshkc> is it installed on ubuntu by default?
[15:34] <Benkinooby> siavoshkc, no, but you will find it in the standard repositiories... look for screen or tmux
[15:34] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: alright. i had enough for today.
[15:34] <ionite> i'm leaving. now
[15:34] <coz_> Guest68266,  mud is much easier to tab :)
[15:34] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: thank you very much for ur help.
[15:35] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: but it's funny why can't i boot from USB to reinstall again?
[15:35] <BHSPitMonkey> Does anyone here use a DisplayPort monitor and run into problems getting it to wake up?
[15:35] <BHSPitMonkey> (Or have experience with said problem)
[15:35] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: no idea. Motherboards can be weird.
[15:36] <Benkinooby> ionite, did you try with different versions of linux or version of ubuntu?
[15:36] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: why is natty so buggy?
[15:36] <BHSPitMonkey> ionite: are you sure you weren't booted to the USB drive during that entire time you were running console commands?
[15:36] <ionite> Benkinooby: not yet. now natty is giving me a very bad head start & impression
[15:36] <ionite> BHSPitMonkey: 100% sure as my USB is plugged off
[15:36] <BHSPitMonkey> just checking
[15:37] <rww> Seems like every version of Ubuntu, people say "$version-1 was so stable, why is $version so buggy?". This phenomenon does not seem internally consistant.
[15:37] <Benkinooby> ionite, hm... maybe ou start better of with ubuntu 10.04 ... ubuntu 10.04 is "long term supported" and hence more stable and better tested
[15:38] <ionite> thanks everyone for ur help.
[15:38] <Benkinooby> ionite, natty got a lot of new features that are very new, while ubunut 10.04 was pretty conservative with uptodate-ness the software
[15:38] <Benkinooby> too late :P
[15:39] <BHSPitMonkey> rww: indeed, though I've been using Ubuntu since just before dapper, and I honestly feel like the past release or two have been stability regressions
[15:40] <Confusionist> Is there a way to perform an Ubuntu installation on another harddisk from inside a running Ubuntu install? So I have a machine where Ubuntu is running just fine, but I want to install Ubuntu on a second machine. It doesn't have a USB drive or a CDROM player, but I can simply open it up, take out the harddisk and put it inside the machine that already has ubuntu. Now I could boot that machine from USB and install that way, but that seems
[15:40] <Confusionist>  a bit silly (and slightly risky, if I accidentally choose the wrong drive)
[15:41] <Cedara> Hi, does anyone remember off-hand what I need to play encrypted dvds in ubuntu 11.04? I don't wanna copy them, just watch. (I think it's a codec but I don't remember which.)
[15:42] <coz_> Cedara,   yes hold on
[15:42] <DJones> Cedara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[15:42] <coz_> Cedara,  did you already install  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:42] <xangua> !dvd | Cedara
[15:42] <DJones> Sound slike you need libdvdcss2
[15:43] <issam> I've got a problem with the cam
[15:43] <coz_> Cedara,   run this command in the terminal          sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[15:43] <issam> it's up down
[15:43] <Cedara> I think it's the libdvdcss2
[15:43] <Cedara> thanks, guys
[15:43] <xangua> !medibuntu > Cedara
[15:43] <xangua> libdvdcs2 is what you need, you can also install it via medibuntu
[15:43] <issam> any one here ?
[15:43] <dinga_> list
[15:44] <coz_> issam,   I there are many here  ..what's the issue?
[15:44] <issam> have a problem with the cam it's up down
[15:44] <coz_> issam,  you mean panning with the cam?
[15:44] <issam> it's rotated
[15:45] <bamprok> "!bot @help"
[15:45] <Pici> !usage | bamprok
[15:45] <issam> hoooy
[15:46] <fmauro> issam: what application are you using to capture your cam, what camera?
[15:46] <sanesto123> hello, is it possible to make a ssh tunnel for the tty ?
[15:46] <issam> mmmm web chat
[15:46] <issam> skype
[15:46] <sipior> Confusionist: it has neither usb slots, or an optical drive?
[15:46] <issam> it's laptop cam
[15:46] <fmauro> sanesto123: you mean redirect ssh input to tty?
[15:46] <Confusionist> sipior, indeed
[15:46] <sipior> Confusionist: you could try debootstrap to get a minimal install going. look here, for example: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/01/debootstrap-minimal-debian-ubuntu-installation/
[15:47] <sanesto123> fmauro: yes i want to be able to see a picture using fbi via ssh, so i want to redirect the tty from the server to my laptop
[15:47] <fmauro> issam: are you using a tablet or a rotatable cam?
[15:47] <issam> fmauro tablet
[15:48] <fmauro> sanesto123: I've never done that before, I would use screen to achieve the same effect.
[15:48] <issam> fmauro I've laptop
[15:48] <fmauro> issam: In that case the picture is coming in rotated already from the camera.
[15:48] <issam> mmm
[15:49] <Confusionist> sipior, thanks, that sounds like a way to accomplish what I want
[15:49] <fmauro> issam: what laptop exactly?
[15:49] <issam> when I use cheese it seems normal
[15:49] <issam> Asus
[15:50] <fmauro> issam: so this issue is only within skype?
[15:50] <issam> no
[15:50] <issam> web chat too
[15:51] <issam> fmauro: google+ for example
[15:51] <th0r> issam: I just got here...you can get the webcam in cheese but not skype?
[15:51] <hwilde> !find python-wxgtk natty
[15:51] <fmauro> th0r: no, it's upside down
[15:51] <sanesto123>  hello, is it possible to make a ssh tunnel for the tty ? i'm using fbi and i want to see the picture on my laptop instead of the server
[15:52] <fmauro> issam: take a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5237356
[15:52] <Pici> sanesto123: What is 'fbi' ?
[15:52] <th0r> fmauro: well, my camera didn't work in skype but did in cheese, and I found a short script that fixed it. I will pastebinit for you and you can give it a try to see if it helps
[15:52] <sanesto123> man fbi: linux framebuffer imageviewer
[15:52] <th0r> fmauro: http://pastebin.com/ay6TfaJA
[15:53] <fmauro> th0r: thx but no need, if you want to post it to issam. feel free although he describes his problem differently
[15:53] <th0r> fmauro: well...it is there. All it does is set a library path before calling skype, and you could use it for webchat too
[15:53] <Pici> sanesto123: As far as I know you cannot forward a framebuffer from one machine to another.
[15:53] <sanesto123> Pici: thank you
[15:55] <DarsVaeda> hi I installed apache and php and want to use mail() but it does not work out of the box anymore...it wants to run sendmail which was not installed, now I installed that but still it does not work, maybe because of rights? I do not get any error but also no mail
[15:56] <Colin969> ikonia, The damn usb wont boot
[15:56] <Colin969> ikonia, I've tried from Unetbootin UniUSBCreator and LinuxLive =[
[15:57] <Pici> Colin969: ikonia asn't said anything here for over 3 hours, I suggest re-asking the channel.
[15:57] <Colin969> Oh Ok
[15:58] <Tommy_nmw> hi
[15:58] <Tommy_nmw> anyone to help me?
[15:58] <fmauro> Colin969: Have you tried creating the bootable USB manually?
[15:58] <Tommy_nmw> how can I make my EVDO modem work with ubuntu? no drivers can be found
[15:58] <fmauro> Colin969: like so http://edoceo.com/liber/ubuntu-live-usb
[15:59] <italoxp> Colin969, maybe your BIOS can't boot by USB .-.
[15:59] <Tommy_nmw> hi
[15:59] <italoxp> Hi =D
[15:59] <fmauro> Tommy_nmw: is it usb?
[16:00] <Tommy_nmw> fmauro: yes
[16:00] <Tommy_nmw> fmauro: it is deteced only as flash drive with autorun feature
[16:00] <fmauro> Tommy_nmw: brand, model?
[16:00] <Tommy_nmw> fmauro: Harvilon
[16:00] <Tommy_nmw> fmauro: CDMA 800Mhz
[16:01] <fmauro> Tommy_nmw: have you tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343989 (lower part)
[16:02] <fmauro> Tommy_nmw: read whole post first as the upper half is pre-gutsy
[16:02] <ole_> ole_oz6oh hej
[16:04] <nsd_> I've got a networking problem between two machines, both connected to a switch that is in turn connected to a wireless bridge that links them to the rest of the network. One machine has no problem reaching the rest of the network and the internet, but the other (a server) can only connect (via ssh) to the desktop machine.
[16:04] <Uby> hello :)
[16:04] <nsd_> Oh, and the server can't ping the wireless bridge.
[16:05] <nsd_> Anyone have any ideas?
[16:05] <fmauro> nsd_: possibly a MAC filter on the bridge?
[16:05] <fmauro> nsd_: are both connected by wire?
[16:05] <nsd_> fmauro: Well, I poked around in the web interface and didn't see one, but y'know it might be lurking in there somewhere; I'll try that again
[16:05] <th0r> nsd_: maybe a bad route in the server
[16:06] <nsd_> fmaure: Yes, they are both connected to the server. I've used the server with that switch and another desktop machine, connected to the rest of the network by wire instead of by a bridge and it worked fine, so it's not the cables or the switch.
[16:06] <nsd_> Or the ethernet adapter (I don't think)
[16:06] <fmauro> nsd_: both clients running ubuntu?
[16:07] <nsd_> fmauro: Server and desktop are both running ubuntu 10.04.03
[16:07] <nsd_> fmauro: Both are configured using /etc/network/interfaces, one as a static IP (the server) and the other uses DHCP
[16:08] <th0r> nsd_: since you are using static on the server, did you add ip's to /etc/resolv.conf?
[16:08] <fmauro> nsd_: could be that the dhcp server has issues with self assigned ips, you could assign the server the desired IP and let it use DHCP as well. It sounds as though your addresses are not being resolved without the proper nameserver
[16:08] <nsd_> th0r: No, in fact I wasn't even aware of that configuration file
[16:09] <EL_KRIMEN> hola , alguien español
[16:09] <chenthu> any one know how to close the x server so i could install my nvidia driver?
[16:09] <nsd_> fmauro: Well, the server can't even ping the wireless bridge. I don't think it's an issue with the router and static IPs because I was using that way before, minus the bridge (with a cable instead)
[16:09] <Pici> !es | EL_KRIMEN
[16:09] <th0r> nsd_: I also agree with fmauro, the dhcp server might not recognize static IPs. I suspect since you are using static you might also have to do the routing manually
[16:09] <TheRedOctober> chenthu: as root, init 3
[16:09] <ole_> test
[16:10] <Pici> TheRedOctober: that will not work as you expect.
[16:10] <Pici> !runlevels | TheRedOctober
[16:10] <chenthu> TheRedOctober: U mean sudo init 3?
[16:10] <nsd_> th0r: Would that be via /etc/resolv.conf? I don't know anything about manual routing, but if you pointed me to a man page I could do it myself
[16:10] <Pici> chenthu: sudo service gdm stop   is probably what you're looking for.
[16:10] <chenthu> Pici: ok thanks will try and post
[16:10] <ole_> hello from denmark
[16:11] <mendel_> how do I install a pci card with a specific driver?
[16:11] <th0r> nsd_: been a while since I did it, but there is a way to define routes so they are installed at bootup
[16:11] <mendel_> the pci card is there, the driver is loaded
[16:11] <Tommy_nmw> fmauro: i once tried but not ok
[16:11] <Tommy_nmw> i will try again
[16:11] <coz_> mendel_,  what is the picie card exactly
[16:11] <nsd_> th0r: I'll google the subject
[16:11] <chenthu> Pici: it worked thanks bro
[16:11] <nsd_> th0r, fmauro: Thanks for the help; I'll try th0r's suggestion
[16:11] <TheRedOctober> Pici: Oh how things change...
[16:12] <chenthu> Pici: how to disable the vouveau driver?
[16:12] <th0r> nsd_: here you go http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html
[16:12] <mendel_> coz_: it's a tv card, philips saa7146 chipset.. I found while googling that it's uses the budget-av driver
[16:12] <mendel_> coz_: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/KNC1_TV-Station_DVB-C_Plus, but lspci -v is not showing any modules/ kernel drivers with the pci card
[16:12] <Pici> chenthu: nouveau? I suppose you can blacklist it, but I'm not sure of the exact module name.
[16:12] <coz_> mendel_,  oh i see,, to be honest , I have no experience with tv cards at all,, I probably cant help with this one
[16:13] <nsd_> th0r: That looks just like what I needed, thanks again
[16:13] <ole_> am i visible here ?
[16:13] <fmauro> ole_: you are
[16:13] <mendel_> coz_: but in general, is there a way to install that pci card with that specific driver? it\s loaded on the os
[16:13] <ole_> fmauro thanks
[16:13] <chenthu> Pici: My NVIDIA driver installation asked me if i want it tro diable and i gave yes now i am rebooting lets see what happens
[16:14] <coz_> mendel_,  well out of curiosity,, did you reboot  after the system recognized it?
[16:14] <mendel_> yeah multiple times
[16:14] <coz_> mendel_,  ooo ok
[16:15] <mendel_> even changed it to another pci slot, in the hope it was using the driver
[16:16] <aetas> you guys know if I need to do something special to make sure background images work in gnome-panel?
[16:16] <coz_> aetas,  ubuntu 11.04  Unity?
[16:16] <aetas> coz_, ubuntu 11.04 classic
[16:16] <b43help> hello there
[16:16] <b43help> i just installed 11.04
[16:17] <coz_> aetas,  oh ok,, it should work,, you already right clicked the panel ...yes?
[16:17] <edbian> b43help: Are you looking for help with the b43 driveR?
[16:17] <b43help> and it says my wifi driver is enabled but i cant see any wifi networks
[16:17] <edbian> b43help: PM me
[16:17] <aetas> coz_, yeah it lets you set one...you can even set the color and transparency and it works, it just images the background image if you choose one of those
[16:17] <b43help> so i installed the b43 fwcutter
[16:17] <coz_> mendel_,  then I am not sure  . i would suggest  ##linux or ##hardware  ,, give both a try
[16:17] <edbian> b43help: pm me
[16:17] <b43help> rebooted and evrything
[16:17] <b43help> and still nothing
[16:17] <b43help> ok debian
[16:17] <mozO> hello. I have one UBUNTU11.4 and LinuxMint in my VM VirtualBox and both are running so how can I ssh from one to the other one?>
[16:17] <aetas> coz_, is it possible a for a theme to block use of custom bg images?
[16:17] <edbian> not me name...
[16:18] <coz_> aetas,  its possible I s uppose  ,, I havent tried this recently with current ubuntu revisions
[16:18] <coz_> aetas,  change the theme and test it
[16:18] <aetas> coz_, no help :(
[16:18] <coz_> ooo
[16:18] <coz_> aetas,  no one in either of those channels had any suggestions?
[16:19] <coz_> aetas,  sorry wrong person
[16:19] <coz_> aetas,   mm not sure then let me test it here I am also on classic,, hold on
[16:20] <coz_> aetas,  it seems to be working here,, what exactly does it show when you enable this
[16:20] <ThinkT510> moz0: wouldn't it be just like ssh-ing between any two machines?
[16:21] <aetas> coz_, whatever would be shown if you had it set to use the theme one
[16:21] <coz_> aetas,  and no image at all attemps to show itself?
[16:21] <coz_> attempts
[16:21] <mozO> ThinkT510: actually I asked it cause when i use "ifconfig" command in both operating sys, both result are the same
[16:21] <aetas> nope
[16:22] <coz_> aetas,  what is the size of the image you are choosing?
[16:22] <mozO> ThinkT510: I mean all the Ip address and other stuff..
[16:22] <ThinkT510> moz0: and they are running at the same time?
[16:22] <coz_> aetas,  what I am noticing is a clear cutting off of the image I chose,, the top portioin of the panel is not being rendered with the image at all
[16:23] <aetas> coz_, its a normal panel background from gnome-look...no images work
[16:23] <aetas> coz_, hrm
[16:23] <ThinkT510> mozO: i guess you need to setup the network in both of them differently
[16:23] <mozO> ThinkT510: yeah they are running now ... both together!
[16:23] <alpha_> I have ubuntu 10.04 and I know ubuntu 11.04 is out there. I am wondering when the update will be available (automatically, that is, without me having to add some new software source) in the update manager?
[16:23] <koichirose> what file system should I use that is readable/writeable on win/mac/linux and where I can write files over 4gb? is ntfs the only option?
[16:23] <aetas> coz_, ah ok yeah it looks like its skipping the first amount and then the panel image is too small
[16:23] <coz_> aetas,  this may be an onverlooked issue,, or perhaps a purposeful one,,  I have not used this until today for some time ,, so I can say this is not      normal for adding images
[16:23] <mozO> ThinkT510: I used the NAT network! it doesn't help me!?
[16:23] <ThinkT510> moz0: maybe you need bridged networking so they can see eachother and have seperate ip addresses
[16:24] <aetas> coz_, well Im downloading known used ones that worked on previous ubuntu version so this must be overlook or something
[16:24] <ThinkT510> moz0: but i'm guessing here, hope somebody else knoes better
[16:24] <mozO> ThinkT510: thanks .. let me try ;)
[16:25] <xangua> alpha_: by default lts editions are configured to upgrade only to the next lts, you can change this in uptates preferences and upgrade to 10.04 and then to 11.04
[16:25] <coz_> aetas,  right only the bottom half of the panel seems to be  accepting an image  and yes i know that lst time I tried it, it worked well, although I always hated disabling it becuase if the image disappears  its a pain to remove that reference in the panel properties
[16:26] <bikalpa> unity sucks
[16:26] <alpha_> xangua, so if I would not take action I would not be presented this automatic update for perhaps in years?
[16:26] <aetas> coz_, this makes very little sense...if I increase the size of the panel and use the same image, it still doesn't show anything so I dunno whats happening
[16:26] <xangua> alpha_: until the next lts, 12.04
[16:26] <coz_> aetas,  its probably an onversight
[16:27] <coz_> aetas,  no harm in reporting it for sure
[16:27] <ldr> hello, is this the proper channel to ask questions regarding xen and ubuntu?
[16:27] <bikalpa> empathy keeps on crashing
[16:27] <Pici> ldr: #ubuntu-server would probably be better.
[16:28] <xangua> bikalpa: do you have a support question or are you just gonna keep complaining¿
[16:28] <coz_> aetas,  I dont see any reference to this as a bug yet after a quick search  so it may be worth the effort in reporting it
[16:29] <alpha_> xangua, oh, ok. Thanks! It seems 12.04 LTS is scheduled for April 2012. How do I manually make 11.04 pop up in the update manager?
[16:29] <italoxp> Open Synaptic
[16:29] <alpha_> xangua, nvm. I think I can google it. Thanks for your help
[16:30] <xangua> aphistic: in the update preferences change to upgrade from lts to normal editions; upgrade to 10.10 and after to 11.04
[16:30] <aetas> coz_, trying to find some info if maybe gnome screwed with some of the image offsets or something
[16:30] <xangua> alpha_: above
[16:30] <aetas> coz_, I've not submitted an ubuntu bug before
[16:30] <justmozzy> hey guys. I am having a bit of trouble with SSL. apache is configured etc however it seems that connections to port 443 are rejected. when I looked at iptables -L -n I didn't find any directive for port 443
[16:30] <justmozzy> can anyone help me out on this?
[16:31] <nel> fgdfgdgf
[16:31] <italoxp> alpha_, did it work?
[16:31] <coz_> aetas,   check this out,, it may help in understanding  how to report bugs   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[16:31] <coz_> aetas,  although I never really liked that post ing but  check it  out anyway
[16:31] <fmauro> justmozzy: you did configure the virtual hosts accordingly? (I am no master on the subject)
[16:32] <alpha_> italoxp, yes it works if you follow xanguas instructions :)
[16:32] <italoxp> alpha_, but you'll have to update do 10.10 and then to 11.04, right?
[16:33] <alpha_> italoxp, exactly
[16:33] <chenthu> any idea of how to blacklist nouveau from command line?
[16:33] <justmozzy> fmauro: yupp, even netstat is saying that 443 is being listened to
[16:33] <jughead4> hey is it possible to install ie9 on ubuntu?
[16:33] <fmauro> justmozzy: so there is no reason to believe that apaches config is faulty?
[16:34] <rumpe1> jughead4, sure .. but i guess a virtual machine would be a good idea
[16:34] <justmozzy> fmauro: so far nopes.. .however I get error 109 when trying to access the website over https (Error 109 (net::ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE): Unable to reach the server)
[16:34] <wols_> !blacklist > chenthu
[16:34] <wols_> jughead4: appdb.winehq.org
[16:35] <chenthu> thanks wols
[16:35] <fmauro> justmozzy: so you are having trouble connecting from the outside or from localhost as well?
[16:35] <jughead4> rumpe1, i have to test my website on ie 6,7,8,9 ...just for that i dont want to install virtual machine
[16:35] <italoxp> Guys, how do the update system in Ubuntu works?
[16:35] <wols_> italoxp: be more specific
[16:35] <italoxp> For example, a new version of Firefox is launched
[16:35] <Pici> !apt | italoxp
[16:35] <justmozzy> fmauro: just from the outside
[16:35] <jughead4> wols_, ty im installing wine
[16:35] <Psydoll> italoxp: sudo apt-get update
[16:36] <maco> !sru | italoxp
[16:36] <italoxp> I didn't mean that
[16:36] <b43happiness> hello?
[16:36] <aetas> coz_, do you know the difference between gnome shell, metacity, compiz, gtk2, etc themes?
[16:36] <rumpe1> jughead4, well.. you could try it with wine. But several different versions at the same time? ... sounds difficult
[16:37] <maco> italoxp: and firefox should be in the "special cases" section at the bottom but isnt....
[16:37] <wols_> rumpe1: very very easy with wine. IF the specific version of IE works in wine in the first place, which is a BIG if
[16:37] <jughead4> oh ok
[16:37] <maco> italoxp: for 11.04 the new firefox releases are going straight into the repositories
[16:37] <coz_> aetas,  well basically  gnome shell is a "overlay" onto gnome3,, compiz is a window manager + compositor..metacity his also a window manager with a compositor,,, gtk2 is the gimp tool kit  and gtk themes are themes designed specifically for gnome = gtk
[16:38] <coz_> aetas,   as is Unity a shell I guess window manager over gnome  as is gnome shell
[16:39] <aetas> coz_, so gnome shell only works for gnome3?
[16:39] <italoxp> maco, it was an example .-.
[16:39] <coz_> aetas,  no I believe it can be run on to of gnome2.x
[16:39] <italoxp> aetas, gnome shell is a part of gnome3
[16:39] <coz_> aetas,  although ontop of gnome it is very nice
[16:39] <italoxp> It uses gtk3, so you can't run it in gnome 2
[16:39] <coz_> aetas,  rather ontop of gnome3
[16:40] <justmozzy> fmauro: running nmap on localhost also tells me that it is open
[16:40] <aetas> coz_, damn :/
[16:40] <justmozzy> but I can't seem to find where the configuration is set that 443 is blocked for requests from the outside
[16:41] <coz_> aetas,  well its not that bad,,  I prefer compiz as the window manager,, however not all day long,, i often switch back to metacity
[16:41] <wols_> jughead4: your router is portforwarding properly. you are absolutely sure of that?
[16:41] <coz_> aetas,  gnome 3 with gnome-shell is rather nice,, but even then I switch to the fallback mode so I can use compiz
[16:41] <fmauro> justmozzy: wouldn't that point to apache blocking requests from the outside?
[16:42] <b43happiness> edbian
[16:42] <aetas> coz_, I got one to work.  This png doesn't have the problem so it looks like its filetype-based
[16:42] <wols_> jughead4: nmap isn't for localhost. netstat is
[16:42] <fmauro> justmozzy: oh, just read the rest of your post
[16:42] <b43happiness> nmap ftw :D
[16:42] <coz_> aetas,  if you use and like compiz,, there will be a few issues because gnome3 no longer uses desktop windows
[16:42] <justmozzy> fmauro: wouldn't that be weird? I mean apache is listening to 443. here is my iptables -L -n http://pastebin.com/c9EC5Zag
[16:42] <b43happiness> edbian, it works now, tyvm for helping me, bye
[16:42] <wols_> jughead4: what happens if you telnet to port 443?
[16:42] <coz_> aetas,  so things like transparen cube or the snow plugins etc will not work unless you enable the wallpaper plugin in compiz
[16:43] <wasanzy> hi
[16:43] <justmozzy> maybe I am not seeing something in there
[16:43] <dori922> dudes im trying to use the command "chmod g-s /usr/src/ -R" and it saying i dont have permission to change permissions, when i use SUDO beforehand it just goes to a new prompt without doing anything
[16:43] <dori922> any thoughts on whats wrong
[16:44] <fmauro> justmozzy: why don't you specifically accept port 443
[16:44] <dori922> it goes through the files without sudo(but doesnt change them) but when  i use sudo it doesnt appear to do anything
[16:44] <doug_f> gents quick question about a ubuntu 10.04 system becoming unresponsive randomly.
[16:44] <wols_> justmozzy: why would any traffic to 443 be accepted there?
[16:45] <issam> hello fmauro that link can't fix my cam problem
[16:45] <justmozzy> wols_: what do you mean?
[16:45] <sipior> dori922: try putting the -R directly after chmod.
[16:45] <fmauro> well your apache is listening to 443 isn't it?
[16:45] <wols_> justmozzy: you explictly allow several ports and ip ranges and reject the rest. port 443 is never allowed
[16:46] <doug_f> When the system fails it states that it cannot allocate memory. I ran "free -m -t -s 3 >> mem.log &" and after the reboot the last entry shows 4.6 Meg Free. Any Ideas?
[16:46] <wols_> justmozzy: have you flushed your iptables settings yet?
[16:46] <fmauro> justmozzy: iptables -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
[16:46] <moZo> I have to linux operating system in VM box and when they are running both have the same IP address so I can not ssh from one to another? what i have to do to make two different Ip for them?
[16:46] <wols_> doug_f: exact error message please
[16:46] <wols_> doug_f: and there should NEVER be any memory free
[16:46] <fmauro> moZo: go to VirtualBox machine settings (turn them off first)
[16:46] <kiliwatch> why does chromium get installed when i remove firefox and vice versa????? i only want CHROME
[16:47] <fmauro> moZo: then set their Network Adapter setting to bridged
[16:47] <doug_f> wols_, Cannot allocate memory is the error.
[16:47] <cavataior38> ciao
[16:47] <wols_> doug_f: there is more to it
[16:47] <cavataior38> !list
[16:47] <frostschutz> kiliwatch: maybe you have a package that depends on one or the other?
[16:48] <kiliwatch> frostschutz: probably totem-mozilla, good idea!!!!!
[16:48] <moZo> fmauro: but u sure that i wont loose my internet access?
[16:49] <doug_f> wols_, any ideas where to start checking. We already ran a memtest over the weekend with no errors on 8gigs of ram. Also I think it was 4.6Gig mem free not Meg sorry aobut that.
[16:49] <fmauro> moZo: why would you? you're just adding a rule to your firewall
[16:49] <justmozzy> thanks wols_ and thumbs. am gonna add 443 explicitly in iptables
[16:49] <wols_> doug_f: I told you were to start but you don't want to listen. so I guess I don't want to either. good day
[16:49] <fmauro> moZo: oh sorry
[16:49] <kiliwatch> frostschutz: nope, it still wants to reinstall firefox when i try to remove chromium
[16:49] <fmauro> moZo: mixup, no you will not.
[16:50] <moZo> fmauro: ok thanks . so let me try..first i have to turn them off now..tnx anyway
[16:53] <hanthana> which package/file i should translate in order to make ubuntu installation localize
[16:54] <TheRedOctober> Hi all.  After adding a device to increase the size of an MD raid, how do you get LVM to recognize the increased size of the MD device?
[16:54] <fmauro> TheRedOctober: Your md raid will not be expandable until all drives match in size
[16:54] <fmauro> TheRedOctober: afaik
[16:55] <TheRedOctober> fmauro: all drives match, mdraid is set up fine.  I just need to get LVM to see that the device /dev/md1 has an additional 300GB
[16:57] <fmauro> TheRedOctober: So you have resilvered the whole thing with new drives and now need to expand the FS?
[16:58] <bl00dy> help pls i am using xubuntu 11 version wanted to change the password that i made when i installed it cz i forgot it :S :( how can i do that ?
[16:59] <TheRedOctober> fmauro: well, I need to get LVM to expand...if it was just resize2fs it would be simple, but pvs doesnt show that my MD device has a bunch more space.
[17:00] <TheRedOctober> pvs says I have 598gb, but the useable array size is apx 900gb
[17:00] <bl00dy> help me someone pls
[17:01] <frostschutz> TheRedOctober: pvresize
[17:01] <PKKid-Work> Hey guys, my Bluetooth icon in the notification area is gone missing, and I can't seem to get it back.  Is this common?
[17:01] <PKKid-Work> I'm on Ubuntu 10.10
[17:02] <TheRedOctober> frostchutz: that was the missing piece...this is the second time this month I forgot that!  thx
[17:02] <frostschutz> TheRedOctober: then lvresize and then resize2fs if you have one volume you want to make larger
[17:02] <TheRedOctober> frostschutz: danke danke
[17:03] <jbwiv> guys, I'm deleting data on a vfat partition and would like to see how much is *really* deleted. Anyone know of a decent data recovery tool for linux which will search said partition for files?
[17:03] <jbwiv> deleted files, that is
[17:04] <[THC]AcidRain> im probably the most noob person in this entire irc server
[17:05] <frostschutz> jbwiv: if you're deleting with rm, then nothing really is deleted
[17:05] <jbwiv> frostschutz, I deleted through nautilus
[17:05] <jbwiv> shift+delete
[17:05] <frostschutz> jbwiv: if you want to test, use jpg files (such as photos from a digital camera) and photorec to restore em
[17:06] <francis__> Hello I wanted to test oneiric but got burn after applying an update. Oneiric reaches checking batteries but would not boot. any ideas
[17:06] <szal> !oneiric | francis__
[17:07] <debianuser> Olá pessoal
[17:07] <frostschutz> jbwiv: don't do it if you ever had porn on the disk though. I once helped some distant relative of mine recover some of their lost photos and the results were rather embarassing because photorec found far more pictures than intended :)
[17:07] <jbwiv> hahaha
[17:07] <jbwiv> ok ;-)
[17:08] <TomasHanzel> Hi, can you tell me please, how can i add repository in command line?
[17:08] <ldr> hello can someone tell my what this kernel parameter is supposed to accomplish reserve=0xc0000000-0xd0000000, commenting it out seems to make no difference
[17:09] <ldr> Tomas: apt-add-repository ppa.. always worked fine for me
[17:09] <frostschutz> ldr reserve=        [KNL,BUGS] Force the kernel to ignore some iomem area
[17:09] <tristanseifert> TomasHanzel: I believe you edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:09] <oCean> !addppa | TomasHanzel
[17:09] <frostschutz> ldr: might be a workaround against some bug on some systems, might not make any difference for you specifically
[17:10] <ldr> the question is how can i determine if i need it?
[17:10] <ldr> e.g. if i have this particular bug
[17:11] <neurochrome> Word up folks, quick question..... is it possible to ssh from local>remote>local?
[17:11] <fmauro> neurochrome: yes
[17:11] <neurochrome> fmauro, because I'm trying to test my router setup and it's not working... wondered if that was the issue... darn it!
[17:12] <fmauro> neurochrome: just tested it here, works local->remote->local->inssheption . (jk it really works)
[17:12] <ldr> neuro: maybe you need port forwarding, to access the ssh server on a pc connected to the router
[17:13] <neurochrome> fmauro, yeah, I can ssh to my remote machine, but not back again
[17:13] <neurochrome> fmauro, connection refused
[17:13] <Necromankas> Hello, I'm running a samsung n130, I have Ubuntu 10.10, how would I get my on-board microphone working?
[17:13] <fmauro> neurochrome: but is your local running ssh server?
[17:13] <th0r> neurochrome: you have to run your local ssh server on something other than port 22
[17:13] <fmauro> th0r: no
[17:14] <fmauro> neurochrome: it works fine with both set to 22
[17:14] <neurochrome> fmauro, yeah, and my router is set to forward port 22
[17:14] <th0r> fmauro: might be a problem with port forwarding in the wifi router
[17:14] <neurochrome> it has a service I can enable already setup
[17:14] <fmauro> th0r: agreed
[17:14] <dli> neurochrome, does it work when: ssh localhost
[17:14] <neurochrome> dli, no
[17:15] <fmauro> neurochrome: then your ssh server on local is not running / installed
[17:15] <dli> neurochrome, sudo service ssh start
[17:15] <Ziaix> I'm currently setting up an Ubuntu mininmal install, (no gnome, just openbox) and am trying to find out if there is any way of changing the themeing of the default UI elements (Like you would normally do with the Appearance Prefrences). Is anyone able to help with that?
[17:15] <Necromankas> You lost the game.
[17:16] <dli> Ziaix, or you can pull in lxde? just a little bit more than openbox
[17:16] <jiffe> I'm trying to migrate between IPs on 2 different subnets, I have 2 interfaces on the machine, is there anyway I can get both running simultaneously and publicly accessible?
[17:17] <dli> jiffe, should work by default, any problem?
[17:17] <fmauro> jiffe: you will need to set up your machine as a NAT . try : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[17:18] <neurochrome> dli, goddamnit, I'm a tool, I have ssh server installed on every machine in the house but my main machine lol
[17:20] <g[r]eek> Hi. I have a monitor plugged into my laptop. Is it possible to make the laptop screen separate from the monitor screen, so that when I move my mouse to its edge, it doesn't automatically shift over to the other screen?
[17:21] <g[r]eek> Basically I want to be able to see my laptop screen's contents, but I never need to move my mouse to it (and on the rare occasion that I do, I can just press some kind of shortcut to make it the active / focused screen. Is that possible?
[17:22] <neurochrome> dli, well what do you know... that worked.  I'm going to go buy a bottle of rum and get s***faced.  I need a drink.
[17:23] <g[r]eek> The best would be to be able to dedicate a workspace to it.
[17:23] <g[r]eek> Is it possible to dedicate a workspace to a 2nd screen?
[17:24] <g[r]eek> Cause with the default settings, when both screens are on / active, the taskbar only appears on the one.
[17:24] <altice> g[r]eek: do you mean have a separate logon X session?
[17:24] <g[r]eek> altice, I'm not sure what that means :(
[17:25] <altice> hehe alright, well good news is that's already a built in option with your display settings
[17:25] <altice> you can have each screen have it's own login and thus it's own task bar
[17:25] <g[r]eek> altice, ok cool how do I go about that?
[17:25] <Ziaix> dli: thanks, have installed lxde and it does what I want :)
[17:25] <altice> in screen settings
[17:26] <altice> using nvidia graphics drivers?
[17:26] <g[r]eek> altice, my laptop has ATI graphics card
[17:26] <altice> hmm, okay well I'm not super sure on ATI settings, but I'd assume they're similar
[17:26] <altice> h/o
[17:27] <g[r]eek> altice, where are these "screen settings" you speak of? In my System menu there is only "Monitor settings" which doesn't seem to have any options for adjusting logon session etc
[17:27] <altice> well, in nvidia, it's under a setting for how you want the extra monitor to display a screen
[17:28] <altice> g[r]eek: you can either have a "twin view" which extends the current desktop OR a separate "X Screen"
[17:28] <g[r]eek> Yeah I want that latter
[17:28] <altice> in NVIDIA it's under the "X server display configuration" tab
[17:29] <altice> not sure for ATI
[17:29] <altice> trying to find that out
[17:29] <AviMarcus> Hi folks. I messed with the "system wide" proxy settings, and now I seem to be unable to change the proxy settings within chrome using switchy. How can I "undo" or remove the system wide proxy settings? Thx!
[17:30] <tftech> Hello, I need help with Video drivers
[17:30] <dli> AviMarcus, system wide proxy? printenv|grep -i proxy
[17:32] <AviMarcus> dli, all_proxy=socks://127.0.0.1:4567/
[17:32] <AviMarcus> is one of 4 lines
[17:32] <altice> g[r]eek: having trouble finding screen shots on the GUI, I'd suggest just playing around/look for the setting I'm talking about, it exists
[17:32] <AviMarcus> that's the stuff I set.
[17:32] <g[r]eek> altice, ok thanks will do
[17:32] <altice> np
[17:32] <g[r]eek> altice, I'm going to leave this channel now because it's a bit noisy. I'll pop back in if I come right
[17:32] <altice> good deal, peace
[17:32] <g[r]eek> ciao
[17:33] <dli> AviMarcus, find out where it's set
[17:33] <AviMarcus> so.. dli if I just unset it in the terminal I'm good ?
[17:33] <AviMarcus> uh ok. How do I do that?
[17:33] <dli> AviMarcus, it could be like: ~/.bash* , or ~/.config/
[17:34] <dli> AviMarcus, grep all_proxy .bash*
[17:34] <wols_> AviMarcus: grep -r all_proxy ~
[17:34] <claire3244> hi guys, has anyone had any luck getting a 3 mobile internet dongle to work under 11.04?
[17:35] <AviMarcus> wols now that's inclusive :P
[17:35] <wols_> AviMarcus: not really. misses dotfiles
[17:35] <claire3244> -and if so, can i get some help?
[17:35] <AviMarcus> so.. it will miss the .bash  then?
[17:36] <claire3244> Hi, I'm wondering can anyone help me with a mobile internet dongle
[17:37] <dli> AviMarcus, find ~ -type f -exec grep -H all_proxy {} \;
[17:37] <joeoshawa> hello i am using ubuntu 11.04 and libreoffice won't open
[17:37] <joeoshawa> i am trying to do a school assignment so its kinda a serious issue
[17:37] <claire3244> joe, open it in the terminal and tell us the errors
[17:38] <joeoshawa> [Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).
[17:38] <joeoshawa> javaldx failed!
[17:38] <claire3244> update java
[17:38] <dli> joeoshawa, what does it mean, when 'won't open'
[17:38] <Telephone> #WOLFGAME
[17:38] <claire3244> did you install restricted extras?
[17:39] <Guest96362> I cannot open a pass-protected pdf, it just errors out saying it is not supported, are there any other powerpoint programs that will open it?
[17:39] <dli> Guest96362, tried adobe reader?
[17:39] <claire3244> hey can anyone help me?
[17:40] <Guest96362> no not yet
[17:40] <Guest96362> I was hoping for a program that wasn't too invasive
[17:41] <ThinkT510> Guest96362: what are you using to open the pdf?
[17:43] <Guest96362> libreoffice
[17:43] <altice> Guest96362: don't use a power point program to open a PDF, not going to work. Use a PDF specific program there's lots to choose one. I like okular as it has a lot of features.
[17:43] <ThinkT510> to open a pdf?
[17:43] <milen8204> Anyone knows a program which can save my phone contacts on the computer
[17:43] <milen8204> ?
[17:43] <milen8204> trough bluethoot
[17:43] <altice> milen8204: what kind of phone do you have?
[17:43] <ThinkT510> Guest96362: why don't you use evince oe xpdf?
[17:44] <ThinkT510> or
[17:44] <milen8204> Sonny ericson cedar
[17:44] <Guest96362> it's a pps - sorry I'm stil battling with a few pdf's, this is a pass-protected (i have the pass) but openoffice will not open it.
[17:44] <abat_lamisere> salut
[17:44] <altice> is it a smart-phone? I'm not familiar w/ that model
[17:45] <maulana> hai all. am need remove panel bar on left at ubuntu 11.04 how to?
[17:45] <milen8204> I want to save the contacts on the computer and then to upload to my smart phone
[17:45] <andrewS> i just had to format my machine from ubuntu 10.04 to (now) 11.xx. I had a dsa key saved i guess on my local drive? now it is gone. is there any way for me to connect to a secure server as before just using the public key i sent to my boss when he setup the username/account/key?
[17:45] <ThinkT510> !fr | abat_lamisere
[17:46] <Guest96362> I thought that openoffice impress might have opened it..:(
[17:46] <altice> maulana: log out of your current screen, and when prompted to log back in (after clicking on the user name and being presented a password box) look at the bottom bar of the screen and click on "ubuntu classic" for your desktop session
[17:46] <joeoshawa> omg nothing works i can't start xchat unless its from terminal
[17:46] <andrewS> use "xchat &" to retain control of your console
[17:46] <joeoshawa> ok how do i update java
[17:46] <maulana> but am need top bar, couse that make my pc like mac :)
[17:47] <g[r]eek> altice, just out of curiosity, assuming I got the separate X login session on my other screen to work, how would I switch my keyboard / mouse between the two screens?
[17:47] <altice> milen8204: you need to check on the manufactures website to see if that phone supports it first, Since it's not a typical smart phone then I cannot say. Bluetooth is touchy. Sometimes companies don't build in support for the PUSH option of it
[17:47] <ThinkT510> !classic | maulana
[17:47] <altice> g[r]eek: download a program called "quicksynergy" and setup the client/server relationship between them. Then you can use both the mouse and keyboard seemlessly
[17:48] <maulana> ThinkT510, how can i modification fo unity of ubuntu 11.04
[17:48] <altice> btw it should be in the ubuntu repositories
[17:48] <milen8204> altice, I checked but no sing of contacts downloading program
[17:48] <g[r]eek> altice, ok thanks
[17:49] <ThinkT510> maulana: i don't use unity, i prefer xfce
[17:49] <joeoshawa> i tried installing sun java6 from the repos and no go
[17:49] <altice> no not a contacts downloading program. the phone has to support it in the first place.
[17:49] <maulana> xfce what ?
[17:49] <ThinkT510> !xubuntu | maulana
[17:49] <joeoshawa> java is intalled but libreoffice still not working
[17:50] <altice> milen8204: can you connect via bluetooth already? Once you do what are some options from your phone? push contacts? push anything?
[17:50] <altice> that's the key
[17:50] <milen8204> altice, I conect whit bluetooth just whit the SD card
[17:51] <milen8204> and have no access to contacts
[17:51] <altice> maulana: Both ThinkT510 and myself have given you the exact directions you need to change from the Unity desktop to the classic Gnome. Try that first.
[17:51] <maulana> altice, that heve done, thanks
[17:51] <altice> Milen8204: not sure what you mean by that sentence,. try rephrasing
[17:52] <altice> maulana: cheers!
[17:52] <crc32> Ok. I'm on ubuntu 10.04 and it looks like scripts in rcN.d arn't being run at boot. What does it take to get scripts such as S91glassfish to start in ubuntu 10.04?
[17:52] <Fenixdeux> Hi I need a new OS for my VPS the old one is like Fedora Core 6 ( ancien ) so is this Ubuntu 10.04 Server edition good
[17:53] <rww> Fenixdeux: 10.04 should be fine.
[17:53] <ThinkT510> !upstart | crc32
[17:53] <Fenixdeux> I need only tripwire, iptables and LAMP
[17:53] <milen8204> altice, When I connect to the phone whit my PC bluetooth I have access only to files which are in SD card
[17:53] <chopin> hey folks ... all signs point to evince supporting xps but i can't select a xps file to read it in ... using the latest version according to ubuntu 11.04 apt repos.
[17:53] <milen8204> In SD card have no phonebook
[17:53] <maulana> http://www.xfce.org/images/about/screenshots/4.8-1.png are the xfec like this ?
[17:54] <altice> milen8284: from your phone's point of view, what are some bluetooth options? Does it have the PUSH feature I'm talking about?
[17:54] <ThinkT510> maulana: yes that is xfce, it's very customizable
[17:54] <chopin> anyone have a reliable way to read xps files? okular printouts are horrible, but at least i can read them ... need to port the xps to pdf or print it the way it looks when i view it via okular.
[17:54] <maulana> are that stable and esy for used
[17:55] <milen8204> altice, no just browse files and send files
[17:55] <ThinkT510> maulana: yes, it is stable and easy to use
[17:55] <g[r]eek> altice, do you mind if I pm you
[17:55] <altice> g[r]eel: sure
[17:55] <maulana> i will try
[17:55] <chopin> hah, nvm .... http://www.xps2pdf.org/ ftw
[17:55] <ThinkT510> maulana: hope you like it
[17:55] <Fenixdeux> rww I'm really happy with my 11.04 Xubuntu I have on my other laptop
[17:56] <crc32> ThinkT510 thats great that upstart is replaceing SysV startups but I these upstart docs seem to spend time just convincing me that I should use upstart but don't seem to be showing me how to use it at all.
[17:56] <rww> Fenixdeux: I'd recommend sticking to LTS on a server, hence 10.04.
[17:56] <altice> milen8204: can you copy your phonebook to anything? Btw all these options are going to be phone specific and not linux specific. My suggestion at this point would be to start googling your phone make/model with tag lines "download phone book bluetooth" included
[17:56] <Fenixdeux> rww: yeah. LTS is nice
[17:56] <crc32> My question for now is Is ubuntu 10.04 no longer honoring the /etc/rcN.d symlinks?
[17:56] <jifli> can someone point me to a document that decribes the ubuntu boot process
[17:56] <andrewS> what's the code to generate a dsa public/private key pair please from console?
[17:57] <milen8204> altice, thanks for the help but I have google it all ready
[17:57] <ThinkT510> crc32: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[17:57] <fmauro> andrewS: ssh-keygen -tdsa
[17:57] <Fenixdeux> and I've used debian based systems so I know to aptget install this that and thatoneoverthere ..
[17:57] <altice> milen8204: sorry then, it's specific to your phone. I have a blackberry, what works for me probably will not work for you
[17:57] <aleperalta> Hello all, I'm using hardy in a server and I've just installed the postgresql-8.4 backports, and it's running fine, but now I need postgresql-8.4-postgis but that isn't supplied by the backports. I've also checked out the ppa UbuntuGis but postgresql-8.4-postgis isn't supplied by the ppa. What choices do I have besides compiling
[17:58] <aleperalta> ?
[17:58] <Guest96362> is there any way one can play .pps files in ubuntu, pass-protected or not? Impress does not work with pass-protected ones :(
[17:58] <Fenixdeux> piece of cake.. except.. does the 10.04 Server Edition have some sane set of defeault configuration for it
[17:58] <Fenixdeux> of tripwire
[17:58] <Fenixdeux> I couldn't get that running on my last box
[17:58] <ThinkT510> evo4360bhp: a longwinded way would be to install msoffice under wine
[17:58] <milen8204> altice, I thik so , thanks for that you have tried to help me
[17:58] <evo4360bhp> ooooer :(
[17:59] <sushant> t	Hi. I have a ATI Radeon HD 6470 and just installed Ubuntu 11.04. I installed the drivers available from jocket-gtk manager. But the machine never reaches the Login screen. and there are visually distorted lines on the screen.
[17:59] <crc32> ThinkT510: So is ubuntu 10.04 no longer honoring /etc/rcN.d in favor of using the unstable upstart system?
[18:00] <Fenixdeux> rww: relay my kindest thanks to all the people who put in hard work so I can have a really nice free OS XD XD XD
[18:00] <AviMarcus> uhm dli wols_ I changed something and now I can't find that proxy setting int he printenv at all.
[18:00] <evo4360bhp> is gnome 3 useable yet ?
[18:00] <ThinkT510> crc32: it can only use one init system at a time, so only upstart is supported (i prefer the way arch does it)
[18:00] <andrewS> thanks fmauro
[18:00] <AviMarcus> I found http_proxy folder but I don't see what settings inside should be changed
[18:00] <fmauro> andrewS: glad to help
[18:00] <maulana> all am open my terminal and how to cheng maulana@maulana-Lenovo-G460:/$
[18:00] <maulana>  to maulana@pc:/$ ?????
[18:01] <milen8204> altice, I found a program coled wammu may be it can help
[18:01] <crc32> ThinkT510: I just think its a really bad idea to have the disclaimer "the Job file format is not stable yet, so if you upgrade upstart later you may need to fix existing files" yet upstart is already configured during the install. :(
[18:02] <ThinkT510> crc32: like i said, i prefer the way arch does it (much like the bsds); i don't know much about upstart but it isn't my decision which init system ubuntu decides to support and implement
[18:03] <orated> Will ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso work both for 32 and 64 bit systems?
[18:03] <oCean> aleperalta: it seems there's a PPA called ubuntugis-unstable, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntugis-unstable, with hardy packages. I'm not familiar with it though. You could also try #ubuntu-server, since there's specific server support
[18:04] <crc32> ThinkT510: Its cool. I'll see what I can get out of it. :|
[18:04] <ThinkT510> orated: yes 64bit cpus will run both 32 and 64
[18:04] <aleperalta> oCean: thanks for your reply, I did try it but it didn't supply the right packages, I'll ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:04] <altin> hello can anyone tell me how can I install nvidia recomended drivers for ubuntu via terminal cuz i uninstalled them and now the ubuntu wont boot
[18:05] <altin> it stays loading
[18:05] <orated> ThinkT510: Yeah, 64 bit can handle both. But is i386 iso designed for both 32 and 64 bit?
[18:05] <bullgard4> Why do exist 2 different directories /var/log/unattended-upgrades/ and /var/log/dist-upgrades in Natty? (Both are empty with me.)
[18:06] <ThinkT510> orated: it will work whether you have a 64bit or 32bit cpu
[18:06] <orated> ThinkT510: Alright. Thanks again :-)
[18:06] <ThinkT510> orated: np
[18:06] <altin> can anyone tell me how can I install nvidia recomended drivers for ubuntu via terminal cuz i uninstalled them and now the ubuntu wont boot
[18:08] <jifli> can someone point me to a document that decribes the ubuntu boot process, step by step, chronologically?
[18:09] <sushant> @altin : you can do a sudo apt-get install nvidia- and press tab to select drivers for your model
[18:10] <crc32> In upstart how can I see a list of events that I can choose to configure my upstart job to start on. For example I see some jobs start on the "filesystem" event. Is there a list somewhere?
[18:10] <trism> bullgard4: /var/log/unattended-upgrades/ is part of the unattended-upgrades packages, which allows you to automatically install security upgrades, /var/log/dist-upgrade/ is part of update-manager-core and I believe it will contain logs of upgrading between releases (10.10 -> 11.04 for example)
[18:11] <jifli> crc32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28281/what-events-are-available-for-upstart
[18:13] <crc32> Danm I'm on 10.04 this doc doesn't seem to apply to me at all. :|
[18:15] <electrall> anyone successfully installed VMPK? I've just installed it, but no sounds out
[18:16] <crc32> Since upstart doesn't look ready for 10.04 is there a way to revert back to the systemV startup for ubuntu 10.04? Seems I keep falling further down the rabbit hole when I try to configure upstart.
[18:16] <joeoshawa> updated java and libreoffice still not working
[18:17] <joeoshawa> general error occured while trying to access your central configuration
[18:17] <nsd_> I'm having trouble with a server connecting to the network here. I have a server and client machine both connected to a switch. I had asked two hours ago about this problem and was advised to look into manual routing, but I got nowhere with it. I can ping the server from the desktop, and I've stopped the firewall on it, but yet I can't ssh into it. I was able to ssh into it just a few hours ago, however.
[18:18] <nsd_> The situation is just deteriorating the more I work on it... The switch connects to a wireless bridge that connects those two machines to the rest of the network, but while the desktop can use it just fine, the server can't
[18:19] <nsd_> The server is running apache, and I can see that it's serving pages fine from the aforementioned desktop....
[18:19] <NERDLINE> hi guys, how to open .iso from 2 seperate .rar files? ( tried to use unrar-all and archive manager, failed on both)
[18:19] <crc32> Anyone know what happened to /etc/inittab? Its not on my systems which seems really alien.
[18:19] <ThinkT510> !rar | NERDLINE
[18:19] <maco> crc32: ubuntu doesn't use sysv init
[18:20] <NERDLINE> !info unrar-free
[18:20] <maco> !upstart | crc32
[18:20] <nsd_> crc32: Look in /etc/init.d
[18:20] <crc32> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/faq.html#example-jobs-what <-- While trying to read I noticed it references iniittab :( so even this example doc doesn't apply to me.
[18:20] <maco> bah, someone let the docs get out of date
[18:22] <NERDLINE> thanks...found the multivolume paragraph, however my 2 files dont contain 001, 002 endings.. :|
[18:22] <bullgard4> trism: I found your statement very useful and could confirm using another Lucid computer of mine.  --  Thank you very much for your help.
[18:23] <crc32> I am not running 11.04 so I can't "man upstart-events" to see a list of events to choose from. I'm trying to use upstart and I'm just trying to find a list of events I can schedule this job to run at. :|
[18:24] <nsd_> Nobody?
[18:24] <TheRedOctober> Hi all.  What is the best free pdf editor for basic users?
[18:24] <joao> xpdf
[18:24] <joao> ;)
[18:24] <Malware> adobe
[18:24] <nsd_> Anyone know why ssh would inextricably stop working?
[18:24] <Malware> reader
[18:24] <TheRedOctober> Malware: nice:)
[18:24] <joao> apt-cache search xpdf*
[18:24] <Malware> nsd_ deleting something you need
[18:24] <Malware> I did that on a VPS once
[18:24] <Malware> :|
[18:25] <Malware> make sure you are using " " if you are rm -rf'ing :p
[18:25] <nsd_> Malware: Hmmph.... it's not that, it's my network
[18:25] <nsd_> Malware: My network is a total mess right now
[18:25] <Malware> i learned my lesson  for not using " " when rm -rf'ing. :p
[18:25] <nsd_> Malware: I hear ya
[18:27] <yo123> how to map network drive on ubuntu
[18:27] <Malware> ugh......i don't know.
[18:27] <dvdr> any suggestions for the best way to encrypt a folder under ubuntu? I'm trying to help a buddy who has no command line or linux knowledge so something simple would be nice. Ive seen a few ideas out there on google but please let me know what you think is best
[18:27] <Malware> dvdr *_* hide it in a billion sub folders
[18:27] <Malware> thats what I do
[18:28] <dvdr> Malware: Nice, but not quite secure enough!
[18:28] <BHSPitMonkey> !truecrypt
[18:28] <th0r> dvdr: once it is set up gpa does a decent (and easy) job
[18:28] <Malware> make a billion sub folders in folders and put shit in there thats top secret
[18:29] <oCean> Malware: that's not really helpful
[18:29] <Malware> yes it is.
[18:29] <Malware> :| Some people may find it helpful
[18:29] <Malware> I do
[18:29] <Malware> :|
[18:29] <Malware> just don't do it, yo. if you has problem take it up with me in pm, kthxbai?
[18:29] <Alexis15> excuse me pls
[18:30] <dvdr> BHSPitMonkey: ok thanks. Ill look into that
[18:30]  * wols_ excuses Alexis15 
[18:30] <BHSPitMonkey> Alexis15: you're excused.
[18:30] <Alexis15> i have kinda a long question pls lol
[18:30] <Malware> trolol
[18:30] <oCean> Malware: your answer has nothing to do with encryption. Hiding anything in milions of folders is very easy to find
[18:30] <dvdr> th0r: thanks ill look it up
[18:30] <Malware> oCean, I can encrypt it
[18:30] <Malware> *_*
[18:31] <Malware> its called 7zip password protection
[18:31] <Alexis15> ok, so i 15 but my summer job is i help old people fix their computer for them and the laptop i have.. it was super slow right
[18:31] <yo123> does anybody know how to map network drive on ubuntu?
[18:31] <Alexis15> so i was trying to change things from PIO to DMA.. and the HDD just like died
[18:31] <Alexis15> and i cant boot up W7 on it at all.. so i used puppy linux to get to the computer
[18:31] <wols_> Alexis15: this is ubuntu related how?
[18:31] <Alexis15> ya..
[18:31] <Alexis15> the question is this
 and i cant boot up W7 on it at all.. so i used puppy linux to get to the computer
[18:31] <Alexis15> how can i use puppy linux to recover her files, and system restore so that w7 will be bran new on it
[18:31] <Malware> she said she used puppy linux
[18:32] <wols_> Alexis15: we don't know, don't care and you are OT. please go away
[18:32] <Alexis15> if she finds out i like crashed her hdd she will tell all her friends im a bad computer fixer and then they wont let me help n e more :(
[18:32] <Alexis15> whats OT?
[18:32] <wols_> !ot
[18:32] <Alexis15> ok well i asked in puppy linux
[18:32] <Alexis15> and the jerks said i should ask here
[18:32] <Alexis15> so this is a bit unfair
[18:32] <Malware> alexis15, lolol'd.
[18:33] <Alexis15> cant u just pls tell me at least what i cna google
[18:33] <wols_> I don't believe they did. in any way: we don't know about puppy linux or care about it. and this is not the right place to ask about fixing windows7. so please don't
[18:33] <Alexis15> so i can have like a clue
[18:33] <crc32> I'm just going to ask straight up. Does anyone know how to list the available list of events some one can start an upstart job at. I'm looking through the upstart docs but they are clearly in flux.
[18:33] <Malware> nobody here uses windows >_>
[18:33] <wols_> crc32: politely put
[18:33] <Alexis15> let me ask you this
[18:33] <oCean> Alexis15: this is ubuntu support. Support for puppy is in#puppylinux
[18:33] <oCean> Malware: sure, many are using windows
[18:33] <Alexis15> if you know nothing about windows, ur about useless to 80% of society who uses windows wouldnt you agree
[18:34] <Malware> ew, oCean. nasty. Windows is a sin.
[18:34] <oCean> Alexis15: please drop that discussion
[18:34] <Alexis15> how does it feel to be useless and ignorant to the majortiy of the nation
[18:34] <oxseyn> lol
 if she finds out i like crashed her hdd she will tell all her friends im a bad computer fixer and then they wont let me help n e more :(
[18:34] <Malware> lol ^
[18:36] <NERDLINE> seeking some guidance unpacking file.part1.rar and file.part2.rar into 1 fail which will be iso [ tried unrar-free :( ]
[18:36] <Malware> who users .rar?
[18:36] <Malware> just like right click the file and unpack it dood.
[18:37] <wols_> NERDLINE: unrar programs can unpack split files easily if they can unpack the archive at all. but for rar v3.5 archives you need the non-free unrar
[18:37] <crc32> does anyone have any files in their /etc/event.d directory?
[18:37] <NERDLINE> it will unpack only 1 archive...it forgets other archive Malware
[18:37] <NERDLINE> weird stuff
[18:37] <wols_> Malware: this is not a social channel. can't you please ramble on #ubuntu-offtopic instead?
[18:37] <MozoO> in ubuntu do we have any proxy cache package and does it have any web interface?
[18:37] <Malware> wols_ shut the fuck up dood. I'm giving support to these niggers
[18:38] <wols_> MozoO: there are tons of proxies, but why do they need web interfaces?
[18:39] <rww> MozoO: I've used privoxy occasionally in the past, I know it has a web UI
[18:39] <joeoshawa> for people having a problem opening Libreoffice the fix is this  sudo chown -R joe.joe /home/joe/.libreoffice
[18:39] <MozoO> wols_:  to give the url to some admins to check the log files?
[18:40] <MozoO> wols_: just read about a good one named squid but does it have any WEB UI?
[18:40] <wols_> I'm pretty sure someone somewhere made a tool to read logs via web...
[18:41] <wols_> tho why it's needed is not entirely clear when there is less, grep and the like
[18:41] <crc32> ok. on my system I can see the file "/etc/rcN.d/S15bind9" and bind9 is running on this system, but there is no bind9 config in /etc/init. This implies both sysv scripts are starting as well as jobs managed by upstart. How is this possible?
[18:42] <crc32> I was told it was either one or the other.
[18:45] <Xodiac13> can someone please point me in the right direction of which wireless hardware to by for a pci xpress 16 slot that is compatible and out of the box for ubuntu 11.04 64bit version
[18:45] <wols_> Xodiac13: usually atheros based cards. no firmware, direct linux kernel support
[18:46] <sleepr> so.. i cant get any connection when i use Wubi, not wireless and not even via cable :x any ideas?
[18:46] <Xodiac13> wols_ : are there any new current ones i can buy like if i were to go by bestbuy
[18:46] <Xodiac13> wols_ : cause the problem i ran into my usb wireless device is not supported yet and plus i want one that i can put into the desktop using the pci x16
[18:47] <oxseyn> I'm install Ubuntu 11.04 server x64 from CDROM to a 2GB flash/ide drive.  It fails every time on "Select and install software" about 50% through.  The only "option" selected is SSH Server.  Any ideas?
[18:47] <wols_> Xodiac13: there are no cards for a pci-e x16 slot. you can put a normal pci-e 1y one in (tho they are a bit rare for pci-e) tho that's a waste
[18:48] <martin_tsc> !VPN
[18:48] <wols_> and naming specific brand or card names is a waste of time since they change monthly
[18:48] <wols_> oxseyn: fails how?
[18:48] <Xodiac13> wols_ : so what do you recommened to get most out of my wireless and im able to put it into a slot and have it work out of the box or at least config it a little
[18:49] <oxseyn> wols_: The only feedback i get is: "Installation step failed ... the failing step is "Select and install software."
[18:49] <wols_> Xodiac13: I already told you
[18:49] <oxseyn> wols_: That's the third time I've tried.  The base install goes just fine.
[18:49] <wols_> oxseyn: then don't install software at all
[18:49] <mrwinkydinky> anybody here have a general understanding of how magnets work
[18:49] <oxseyn> wols_: i'll give that a try, see what happens.
[18:49] <Xodiac13> wols_: yeah but you said its rare for pci-e and did you say that even if its not it will still work in the slot anyways
[18:49] <mrwinkydinky> i think i came up with an idea to perpetuate magnetic energy
[18:49] <mrwinkydinky> anyone?
[18:49] <wols_> mrwinkydinky: is ubuntu a magnet?
[18:50] <mrwinkydinky> no
[18:50] <mrwinkydinky> ubuntu is not a magnet
[18:50] <mrwinkydinky> but the components in the hardware are magnetic, some of them anyways
[18:50] <wols_> mrwinkydinky: then go away until you have proof that ubuntu is a magnet. goodbye
[18:50] <mrwinkydinky> don't goodbye me missy
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> oh, ha
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> i'm in the wrong chat room
[18:51] <guest123456> hi everyone
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> 1000 pardons
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> good bye
[18:51] <mrwinkydinky> connect
[18:51] <guest123456> does anyone here have demonoid invite codes?
[18:52] <rww> guest123456: that's offtopic for this network, please don't ask here.
[18:52] <guest123456> whats the topic?
[18:52] <guest123456> oh
[18:52] <rww> guest123456: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support.
[18:53] <guest123456> does anyone know how to get flash not to lose focus in full scree (w/ multiple screens) and working on another window?
[18:53] <Stef__> Hi, i want to set up a mail-server. Is there someone who has a good tutorial for this? Thanks
[18:54] <NERDLINE> !info unrar-free
[18:54] <pi_> hi
[18:54] <pi_> how do I get to the kernel boot line on startup in 10.04?
[18:54] <chenthu> !info
[18:55] <chenthu> !ubottu
[18:55] <pi_> please can someone tell me how to edit the grub line on startup? do I hold down shift?
[18:55] <pi_> please can someone tell me how to edit the grub line on startup? do I hold down shift?
[18:56] <pi_> please can someone tell me how to edit the grub line on startup? do I hold down shift?
[18:56] <ldr> press e
[18:56] <pi_> e?
[18:56] <szal> !repeat | pi_
[18:56] <ldr> yes
[18:56] <ldr> for edit
[18:56] <pi_> ok, I'll try thanks
[18:56] <ldr> gl
[18:56] <pi_> ta
[18:57] <chenthu> pi: if u dont get the grub boot options hold shift while booting
[18:57] <chenthu> pi: then press 'e' to edit
[18:58]  * szal sees that chenthu likes talking to ppl who aren't there ;)
[18:58] <pi_> hi, "e" didnt work
[18:58] <ldr> pi: if your question is how to do change it persitend and not just for one boot look in /etc/grub.d and do update-grub
[18:58] <chenthu> szal: lol...
[18:58] <pi_> ldr, I'd like to edit the line on startup - I cant seem to access the kernel line
[18:58] <pi_> i'm 10.04
[18:59] <wols_> pi_: press right shift, yes
[18:59] <pi_> ok I'll try right shift, thanks
[18:59] <Xodiac13> does anyone know any good wireless desktop cards that are compatible with ubuntu 11.04 64bit
[18:59] <ldr> pi: just select the grub menupoint you want to change, press e, scroll to the line you want to change press enter edit the line and press b for boot
[18:59] <Xodiac13> off the bat
[19:00] <Pici> loki_: again, they're not here anymore.
[19:00] <nos09> does anyone knows why facebook-chat plugin is not working in pidgin-2.7.11
[19:00] <crc32> Why am I getting "unknown" when I execute "runleve" how can my system be in an unknown runlevel?
[19:00] <loki_> ?
[19:01] <aztek[tum]> if i ps -ef and in the CMD field it shows a - instead of the full command, what does that mean?
[19:01] <crc32> Is ubuntu getting rid of runlevels too? WTF?
[19:01] <dli> Xodiac13, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[19:02] <Pici> !runlevels | crc32
[19:02] <Xodiac13> dli: thanks
[19:02] <Pici> crc32: And we're not the only ones using upstart
[19:02] <loki_> m
[19:02] <szal> Pici: no, but some distros are switching to systemd
[19:03] <crc32> Pici? I've heard the upstart spill before but I'm asking is ubuntu getting rid of the notion of runlevels too?
[19:03] <nos09> does anyone knows why facebook-chat plugin is not working in pidgin-2.7.11
[19:03] <Pici> crc32: They should still exist despite us using upstart.
[19:03] <crc32> Pici: is runlevel "UNKNOWN" appropriate.
[19:04] <crc32> Pici: Yes I see it on another ubuntu system but on another machine runlevel is "unknown" and I believe this is why my SNN startup scripts aren't running.
[19:04] <Pici> crc32: Not on my machines, weird.
[19:05] <crc32> yea I'm researching it now but I'm getting references to /etc/inittab which doesn't apply to me. :|
[19:05] <ldr> maybe some fancy security stuff prevents you from reading the runlevel as normal user?
[19:05] <crc32> Pici: When you run "runlevel" your getting N 2 right?
[19:05] <oCean> crc32: do you use encrypted partition?
[19:06] <crc32> no.
[19:06] <pi_> hi - right shift worked thanks - couldnt fix my problem though, I have a black border around my screen - ati card, installed the proprietry catalyst driver - anyone know a fix?
[19:06] <th0r> crc32: have you tried it with sudo? In debian it is a root command
[19:06] <crc32> this machine has been rebooted several times and theirs no prompt for a crypto key
[19:06] <trism> crc32: there was a bug in earlier versions of 10.04 that caused it to go into runlevel unknown, but it should be fixed in an up-to-date system
[19:06] <crc32> yes I'm root
[19:07] <oCean> trism: oh right
[19:07] <root> hai all
[19:07] <oCean> crc32: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/543506
[19:07] <Guest42117> :p
[19:08] <Pici> crc32: I see "N 2" on my Ubuntu servers, but these are either running 10.04 or were upgraded from that.
[19:08] <Guest42117> hey anyes
[19:08] <Guest42117> hew ru??
[19:10] <crc32> I run sudo apt-get upgrade but all I get is "The following packages have been kept back linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server" 3 not upgraded.
[19:11] <Pici> crc32: you should be able to use dist-upgrade to get those
[19:11] <ldr> crc32: what about dist-upgrade?
[19:11] <ThinkT510> !backports | orated
[19:11] <crc32> Yea I want to run that but will it try to bump me to 11.04 or will it upgrade 10.04Lts
[19:11] <runicfox> crc32, you should also be able to use sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[19:12] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | crc32
[19:13] <crc32> I just hope this machine still boots afterwords. I don't have access to the DRAC interface.
[19:13] <crc32> DRAC = KVM over ip. If networking and ssh don't come up this is a lost node.
[19:16] <pi_> hi, i have a huge black border around my desktop can anyone help?
[19:16] <crc32> the dist-upgrade didn't fix it. My uptime is less then 1 minute and I still show runlevel "unknown"
[19:18] <pi_> c'mon there's 1552 people in here surely someone knows how to get rid of this black border
[19:19] <wols_> pi_: interaction between your videocard(driver) and your monitor
[19:19] <pi_> my graphics card is ati hd 5xxx
[19:19] <wols_> set it to the proper resolution for your monitor and it goes away
[19:19] <pi_> i installed the proprietry driver when prompted
[19:19] <pi_> it won't let me set it wols_
[19:20] <jiffe> I don't think connection sharing is what I want
[19:20] <jiffe> NAT won't allow both subnets to be publically accessible
[19:20] <pi_> the resolution is set at 1920 x 1080 which is correct
[19:21] <pi_> it seems ubuntu thinks my monitor is smaller
[19:22] <TheRedOctober> Hi all.  How do you keep the screen from going black when using tty?
[19:22] <Polah> TheRedOctober: You mean when using it or just when it switches?
[19:23] <joao> what o.o'' ?
[19:23] <TheRedOctober> Polah: when using it...in my server room I want to be able to keep nmon on and not have to walk over and hit a key (or find a keyboard to hit a key on) everytime I want to see what the load is
[19:24] <mgj> TheRedOctober, ssh to the server? :P
[19:24] <oCean> !google | oCean
[19:24] <g0t> Results for | oCean on Google:
[19:24] <g0t> --
[19:25] <crc32> My runlevel is "unknown" and this is disturbinmg. :|
[19:25] <Polah> TheRedOctober: Sounds like you'd need to edit power options to stop Ubuntu turning off the display after an amount of time.
[19:25] <Polah> What does pulseaudio have a default nice value of -11? It doesn't seem to make much sense to have a sound server as such a high priority.
[19:25] <DeviceZer0> hello all. Is there anyway i can make the scrollbar stand out more? its hard to find the little slider as its pretty much the same color as the whole slider
[19:25] <wols_> Polah: it does
[19:26] <Polah> wols_: I meant to say why does it set it to -11.
[19:26] <TheRedOctober> Polah: no X running here, and this isn't strictly an Ubuntu question...I would rather not have this feature and turn off the monitor when I want it off...
[19:27] <TheRedOctober> Polah: found it, "setterm -powersave off -blank 0"
[19:27] <Polah> TheRedOctober: This seems to be what you want, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disable-screen-blanking-screen-going-blank.html specifically setterm -powersave off -blank 0
[19:27] <TheRedOctober> rock on
[19:28] <aryan> Hi, I'm having a problem with a USB webcam. It was working fine on another PC running 10.10, but now I've connected it to a new PC running natty and it only shows a blank screen
[19:29] <aryan> The output of cheese is: libv4l2: error turning on stream: No space left on device
[19:29] <aryan> Does anyone have an idea?
[19:29] <G00053> is there a hotkey to open nautilus ?
[19:30] <goodtime> yeah you dont seem to have the space to install cheese aryan
[19:30] <G00053> 10.04
[19:30] <aryan> no, cheese is installed
[19:30] <goodtime> then you dont have enoughf to take a shot
[19:30] <mangolian> what was the command along the lines of "sudo apt-get build-essential" ?
[19:30] <Polah> aryan: What other USB devices do you have plugged in/running. Also, try plugging the webcam into a different USB hub (i.e. on the front of the computer rather than the back)
[19:31] <Polah> mangolian: To do what, exactly?
[19:31] <mangolian> to get the C stuff
[19:31] <oCean> mangolian: to install: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:31] <mangolian> ahh,thanks
[19:31] <mangolian> that's what I was looking for
[19:31] <aryan> Thanks Polah,  I've tried various USb ports (front and back) with same effects. I've got a headset, a mouse and keyboard connected, all USB. they all work fine
[19:32] <Polah> aryan: not just different ports, a different hub. Your USB ports on the front should be on a separate hub from the USB ports on the back.
[19:34] <raluxgaza> Hey guys what good terminal based gui will you recommend for me
[19:34] <Polah> aryan: Ah, I missed the bit where you said front and back. My mistake. It could be a driver incompatibility issue since you've upgraded your Ubuntu distribution. I just though it could've been a USB bandwidth issue
[19:35] <Polah> raluxgaza: What do you mean? Most desktop environments will have a terminal-type application that comes with them. Ubuntu has a command line by default that's accessible without a desktop environment. On a regular install, Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6 will give you six command line interfaces you can use.
[19:35] <adac> which logging mechanism is the standard one in ubuntu? rsyslog?
[19:35] <aryan> Thanks Polah, I think you were right about the USB bandwidth issue
[19:35] <Polah> aryan: Ah, it works now?
[19:36] <aryan> I just tried it to a different port at the back (different to the one I had tried before) and it works
[19:36] <raluxgaza> Polah, sorry I want clear enough, I mean I want to get ride of gnome and install a window manager without any UI just terminal
[19:36] <Polah> aryan: Ah, there you go them (:
[19:37] <sandprickle> haloo
[19:37] <oCean> adac: yes, rsyslog
[19:37] <Polah> raluxgaza: You don't need any window manager or desktop environment then. Like I said, using the other six TTYs will give you a plain cli
[19:37] <sandprickle> anybody care to give advice on a grub issue?
[19:38] <sandprickle> or not really a grub issue
[19:38] <Polah> sandprickle: If it's to do with Ubuntu, yes. Although you still might have better luck in #grub
[19:38] <sandprickle> you tell me:
[19:38] <sandprickle> i had Ubuntu installed,
[19:38] <sandprickle> but i had several other partitions set up
[19:38] <oCean> sandprickle: try to describe your issue in single line
[19:38] <freysmarisjtg> buenasss
[19:38] <sandprickle> sorry
[19:39] <sandprickle> I installed Windows XP in the NTFS partition and I think it overwrote grub in the mbr
[19:39] <adac> oCean, is there a difference between syslog and rsynclog?
[19:40] <Pici> sandprickle: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[19:40] <Polah> sandprickle: Boot up from a LiveCD, open up a terminal and do : grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sdX
[19:40] <Polah> sandprickle: Replace the X after sd with the correct device letter
[19:40] <adac> oCean, sorry: syslog and rsyslog
[19:40] <sandprickle> ok. thanks
[19:40] <adac> :)
[19:41] <mangolian> I'm dual booting ubuntu and windows
[19:41] <mangolian> how do I access the data on the partions for windows?
[19:41] <mangolian> while on ubuntu
[19:41] <mangolian> I can get to C
[19:41] <mangolian> but not to E
[19:41] <FloodBot1> mangolian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <mangolian> (ubuntu is located in E)
[19:41] <mangolian> ok
[19:42] <Pici> mangolian: Did you install using Wubi?
[19:42] <mangolian> yes
[19:42] <oCean> adac: I don't think ubuntu repositories offer package syslog. I'm not sure but I think the old syslog did not have the extended capabilities that rsyslog has.
[19:43] <Pici> mangolian: Then you should be able to see your data in /host/
[19:43] <edwardthefma> hey all
[19:43] <chenthu> is it posible to just install the plasma desktop of kde instead of whole?
[19:43] <Galvatron> mangolian Wubi is not the best idea, ince the requirements of Windows and Linux sum up, as well as it may cause some unusual issues.
[19:43] <adac> oCean,
[19:43] <adac> ps aux | grep syslog
[19:43] <adac> syslog     219  0.0  0.0  12452   804 ?        Ss   Jun22   0:01 /sbin/syslogd -u syslog
[19:44] <adac> I'm on lucid
[19:44] <mangolian> what do you mean the requirements sum up?
[19:44] <mangolian> And thanks Pici  that worked
[19:44] <oCean> adac: right. What's your actual question?
[19:45] <edwardthefma> hello all
[19:45] <SinnerNyx> i need to set up nfs on ubuntu-server. I've never done this before and could use some pointers. I need to set it up so that only 1 computer can access the shared folders.
[19:47] <highline> hello
[19:47] <edbian> highline: hi
[19:47] <edbian> SinnerNyx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[19:49] <adac> oCean, I was just wondering: syslog == rsyslog ?
[19:50] <SinnerNyx> edbian: so I have to set up NIS to restrict the clients?
[19:50] <edbian> SinnerNyx: You can restrict clients by ip address in /etc/exports (or whatever the config file is).
[19:51] <edbian> SinnerNyx: NIS is used to restrict by user
[19:51] <SinnerNyx> edbian: oic. I misread it. Thanks.
[19:51] <edbian> SinnerNyx: sure :)
[19:52] <jiffe> I'm trying to migrate between IPs on 2 different subnets, I have 2 interfaces on the machine, is there anyway I can get both running simultaneously and publicly accessible?
[19:52] <chenthu> guys is Unity worth installing....can you share your experience?
[19:52] <MozoO> i have two directories named "gadmin-s (1)" & "gadmin-s (2)" and I want to 'cd' into the 2nd one. I type "cd gadmin-s " and then when I press TAB i can not go to the 2nd folder? how can I go into it? i think the problem is the space between 's' and '('??????
[19:53]  * edwardthefma is looking for a power pc live disc
[19:53] <edbian> chenthu: I like it.  It's installed in 11.04 by default.
[19:54] <trism> MozoO: either start the tab complete before the space, or escape the space: gadmin-s\ <tab>
[19:54] <townes> having trouble mounting a nikon coolpix camera. it seems to be a fairly common prob but so far I haven't found a solution
[19:54] <ovb> MozoO, try like this: cd gadmin-s\ \(2\)/
[19:54] <ThinkT510> !ppc | edwardthefma
[19:54] <townes> anyone have suggestions?
[19:54] <chenthu> edbian; i know its installed by default in natty...i am jiust in the process o installing i am just wondering whether to install the desktop or not... :)
[19:55] <DanaG> Say, what does it take to get a working libva and xvba-video on Natty?
[19:55] <chenthu> edbian : what are the '+' and  '-' you would recomend?
[19:55] <DanaG> I've installed the upstream libva1 and xvba-video, but vainfo reports xfree-dri missing.
[19:55] <DanaG> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:55] <Jezebel> o.o
[19:56] <townes> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04b0:0181 Nikon Corp.
[19:56] <MozoO> ovb:  :D thanks.. It works :P ;)
[19:56] <townes> lsusb knows the cam is connected
[19:56] <ovb> MozoO, cheers!
[19:56] <townes> however nothing is mounted
[19:56] <edbian> chenthu: Well the + is that it looks nice and actually considered that my screen is not 768 pixels high.  The - is that there is no window list applet (so you can't see what programs are running).
[19:57] <chenthu> edbian : thank you for sharing your opinion, is it worth a replacement for kde or gnome?
[19:57] <edbian> chenthu: Depends on the form factor IMO
[19:57] <edbian> chenthu: For a netbook YES
[19:58] <ThinkT510> chenthu: only you can decide whether it is suitable for you
[19:58] <chenthu> edbian: for a laptop
[19:58] <edbian> chenthu: eh, then I'd probably go classic ubuntu
[19:58] <townes> so yeah.....digital camera.....lsusb sees its......but....it's not mounted
[19:58] <chenthu> ThinkT510: yeah but never used it so i asked... :)
[19:58] <edbian> ThinkT510: Only you can prevent unity.
[19:58] <townes> or rather I can't get to it
[19:58] <TameableExpert_> lols
[19:59] <edbian> townes: Does it show up in the output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[19:59] <edbian> TameableExpert_: lulz
[19:59] <TameableExpert_> nice one edbian
[19:59] <TameableExpert_> New favorite quote
[19:59] <townes> im not sure edbian.....it really doesn't look like it to me
[19:59] <townes> I have sda 1 through 6
[19:59] <townes> none of them look like a cam
[19:59] <chenthu> edbian:thank u...i'll try if i dont like it i could always switch... :)
[19:59] <Galvatron> chenthu: Unity is very much like Mac OS X, with the most visible difference being the placement of the dock.
[20:00] <townes> one says HPFS/NTFS, other is extended, then Linux, then Linux swap
[20:00] <chenthu> Galvatron: Oh My I hate macbook
[20:00] <townes> to be honest I'm not sure if its showing up w/ fdisk but nothing sticks out to me there
[20:00] <Galvatron> chenthu: Why? OSX is just like Ubuntu with Compiz.
[20:01] <TameableExpert_> OSX is like ubuntu...
[20:01] <edbian> townes: mess with the settings on the camera until you get it into MSC mode (instead of MTP) then it will show up in fdisk.
[20:01] <TameableExpert_> but I would choose the GNOME Desktop anyday
[20:01] <townes> edbian, k
[20:01] <edbian> townes: fdisk lists attached storage devices.  hdd's usb drives, comeras...
[20:02] <townes> right, just none of those stuck out to me as being the cam
[20:02] <chenthu> Galvatron: Yeah But i dont know...i hate it...
[20:02] <edbian> townes: pasetbin it paste.ubuntu.com  for me to see
[20:03] <chenthu> TameableExpert: Reason?
[20:03] <Galvatron> chenthu: Getting back to Unity - in my personal opinion Gnome + Cairo Dock is a better choice, since Cairo itself is way better than the thing in Unity.
[20:03] <jiffe> if I have 2 interfaces on different subnets, IFa and IFb, and the default gateway is on IFa, if a packet comes in on IFb from a non-local subnet, should the response to the packet be sent out IFa?
[20:04] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: I feel alot more comfortable with it. And with Unity... I disliked not being able to see my windows open at the bottom...
[20:04] <chenthu> Galvatron: hmmm.....
[20:04] <oslinux23> hello
[20:04] <TameableExpert_> I did like the Unitys search feature though
[20:04] <jiffe> I have this situation right now where I am pinging the IP on IFb from an outside source and I don't see a response on any interface
[20:04] <chenthu> Taemableexpert: yeah that would be a problem for me as well
[20:04] <townes> edbian, I will once I figure out how to change the modes
[20:04] <Galvatron> chenthu: GNOME can be easily customized into Unity/OSX
[20:04] <townes> I don't see it in options
[20:04] <TameableExpert_> it drove me insane.
[20:05] <edbian> townes: sure
[20:05] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: plus they messed with the format of the workspaces...
[20:05] <oslinux23> I found the driver's source of  a TV tuner, what I should do next ?
[20:05] <edbian> townes: Not every camera has the option, just most.  If it does not then I don't know how to fix it.
[20:05] <chenthu> Galvatron: but something in me says i would go for KDE
[20:06] <townes> edbian, I'm thinking ti doesn't. nothing comes up on google for my model and those options
[20:06] <edbian> townes: aww :(
[20:06] <townes> hehe
[20:06] <Galvatron> chenthu: I'm yet to test KDE 4.7, but the 4.6.x line was a complete bloatware, with initial memory usage easily exceeding 500MB
[20:06] <chenthu> TameableExpert: I already am installing it now...will check and then decide...messing work spaces...now i am getting a lot of negatives that i wouold care
[20:06] <townes> edbian, at least lsusb shows it, that's a start
[20:07] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: They place the workspaces in a 2 x 2 zone... and I didn't see an option to add more or swap how they were areanged.
[20:07] <chenthu> Galvatron: Wow thats toomuch
[20:08] <akash_> I was upgrading 10.04 to 11.04 on my laptop..  at the final step of installation (1 min left) I am getting a blank screen with just the pointer visible and continous HDD activity
[20:08] <akash_> I am unable to move the pointer
[20:08] <Galvatron> chenthu: Also GNOME can look as good, with things like Murrine RGBA engine
[20:08] <akash_> any idea on what I should do now?
[20:08] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: murrine?
[20:08] <abuchbinder> I have a bug I filed on Pidgin, but I think the core dump has my IM password and such in it. How can I make the core dump private, but the bug report public?
[20:08] <abuchbinder> It's bug 817119.
[20:08] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: I shall google it
[20:08] <Galvatron> chenthu:And in the terms of funcionality, a difference is like 10%
[20:09] <SinnerNyx> for nfs: The SettingUpNFSHowTo page states: "With NFS, a user's access to files is determined by his/her membership of groups on the client, not on the server." The intended client in this case is a windows machine. How does this translate? I really want the files to be accessible to anyone on the machine with a specific network IP.
[20:09] <chenthu> TeamableExpert: Glavatron: ahhh...now i am getting the reps for Gnome..should have chosen it better...but i just have to trry
[20:09] <Galvatron> chenthu: GNOME and KDE are pretty much on par in every single aspect.
[20:09] <chenthu> TeamableExpert: i never heared of murrine it too...
[20:09] <edbian> SinnerNyx: NFS does not support windows.  You must use smaba
[20:09] <edbian> samba*
[20:10] <edbian> SinnerNyx: Which also confuses me in the same question :P
[20:10] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: i am looking it up... it may be as cood as Compiz
[20:10] <chenthu> Galvatron: i was rading on abt gnome and kde but still couldnt make up my mind
[20:10] <psichas> do you like dancee sambo? :D
[20:10] <chenthu> TeameableExpert: ok
[20:10] <akash_> I was upgrading 10.04 to 11.04 on my laptop..  at the final step of installation (1 min left) I am getting a blank screen with just the pointer visible and continous HDD activity
[20:10] <chenthu> Galvatron: What would you prefer?...and why?
[20:10] <akash_> any idea on what I should do now?
[20:11] <chenthu> akash: could be display graphics iussue
[20:11] <akash_> chenthu, SHould I try a hard restart? or leave it as it is?
[20:11] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755
[20:11] <Galvatron> chenthu: To me, KDE uses too much resources, compared to what it offers (just like Windows it tries to be like). Also, Compiz is still much better than Kwin.
[20:11] <chenthu> akash: press ctrl+alt+f2 and go in command prompt then search in ubuntuforums
[20:12] <akash_> its a lenovo R61 with intel integrated graphics
[20:12] <chenthu> TameableExpert; tq looking at it
[20:12] <Galvatron> chenthu: GNOME can do as fine, but on a much lower resource cost (pure GNOME takes like 200-250MB of RAM)
[20:13] <chenthu> Galvatron : Thats a wonderful point...will consider...
[20:13] <akash_> chenthu, ctrl+alt+f2 doesnt do anything .. I have a mouse pointer and a non blinking input prompt
[20:13] <plasmoidia> Anyone have any experience with PLX PCI bridge chips?
[20:13] <abuchbinder> Hi, all. I have a bug I filed on Pidgin, but I think the core dump has my IM password and such in it. How can I make the core dump private, but the bug report public?
[20:13] <chenthu> akash: ctrl +alt+f1
[20:14] <Galvatron> chenthu: With customization, GNOME can look perfectly like Windows 7 (Win2-7 pack) or OSX (Macbuntu pack from gnome-look.org)
[20:14] <akash_> chenthu, that doesnt work either (even caps lock isnt responding)
[20:14] <chenthu> akash: reboot
[20:14] <TameableExpert_> galvatron: lol... I tried to get away from windows... :P
[20:14] <chenthu> galvatron: hmmm...
[20:15] <edbian> Galvatron: I like it to look like Linux :)
[20:15] <chenthu> TeamableExpert: jiust looked at it...nice and wonderful
[20:15] <chenthu> TameableExpert: wht abt performance for murrine
[20:16] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: It is too much like windows vista and 7 for me... I like the default look of GNOME...
[20:16] <chenthu> galvatron: windows makes me lazy
[20:16] <chenthu> TameableExpert: I like the default look of KDE
[20:16] <townes> well this is down right frustrating
[20:17] <TameableExpert_> chenthu: I am not too sure about the performance of Murrine...
[20:17] <phnom> I am on Natty, fresh install, and I can't get vga_switcheroo to work. I tried modeset=1 as it says in the community docs but no dice. Any tips?
[20:17] <jen__> I have a moronic question
[20:17] <jen__> why is the power button on the top right hand corner for ubuntu red instead of white?
[20:18] <TameableExpert_> you need to reboot
[20:18] <Galvatron> chenthu: This thing looks as good as KDE: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Win2-7+Pack?content=113264 Just a bit of customizing to make it mor Linux-like.
[20:18] <TameableExpert_> you just installed updates... right?
[20:18] <Pici> !who
[20:18] <jen__> oh yes am installing
[20:18] <TameableExpert_> ok... wait for updates to finish then restart
[20:18] <jen__> oh ok
[20:18] <jen__> and if I dont?
[20:18] <TameableExpert_> (mine is red too...)
[20:18] <jen__> TameableExpert_,
[20:19] <TameableExpert_> then the update will not take effect till you do a reboot
[20:19] <jen__> ok thanks :D got that dumb question solved
[20:19] <TameableExpert_> np
[20:19] <jen__> oh I dont think its important
[20:19] <Galvatron> chenthu: Also, I recommend checking out and trying GNOME3 - this thing is pretty good, especially the virtual desktop management.
[20:19]  * TameableExpert_ AFK
[20:20] <townes> "Bus 001 Device 010: ID 04b0:0181 Nikon Corp."
[20:20] <chenthu> Galvatron: thats nice...the default purple on ubuntu sucks lol...i know i can change it but still....purple default?
[20:20] <townes> lsusb knows its connected. fdisk doesn't.
[20:20] <plasmoidia> I'm having trouble with a PLX-based PCI card on the 10.04 LTS (Lucid) release
[20:20] <Galvatron> chenthu: You can change everything
[20:20] <chilversc> in chromium, anyone know how to make clicking the middle mouse button scroll?
[20:21] <chenthu> TeamableEXpert: its gnome so must have a good performance....thats what i would expect :-P
[20:21] <TameableExpert_> ok
[20:21] <chenthu> Galvatron: Yeah..thats the spirit of linux
[20:21] <v0lt> hi i can't login to ubuntu after changing the video adapter from nvidia to ATI is there a way to fix this ? i load command line tool
[20:21] <abuchbinder> Is there another channel I should look in for help with launchpad?
[20:21] <chenthu> Galvatron: is there wa way to just make our own distro?
[20:22] <v0lt> it load the video adapter
[20:22] <rww> abuchbinder: #launchpad
[20:22] <abuchbinder> Right; already there. Thanks.
[20:22] <v0lt> it load the command line interface
[20:22] <astraljava> v0lt: Check if you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it might have configurations for the old card. If you remove it, ubuntu should autodetect your current setup, and configure it on-the-fly.
[20:23] <SinnerNyx> ok so i uninstalled nfs and am now installing samba
[20:23] <SinnerNyx> can I limit the samba service to only allow a particular network IP address to connect to it?
[20:23] <chenthu> Galvatron: not easy?
[20:23] <v0lt> astraljava: how do i remove it
[20:24] <v0lt> sorry 4 bad english
[20:24] <astraljava> v0lt: For instance `sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_nvidia`
[20:24] <astraljava> v0lt: Quite alright. :)
[20:25] <townes> anyone have probs getting their cam to work in ubuntu? (digital camera, nikon)
[20:25] <v0lt> astraljava: then it will load correctly ? after doning this ?
[20:25] <astraljava> v0lt: You might need to reboot, or simply issue `sudo service gdm restart`, but reboot is simple and safe.
[20:26] <amalgameate> exit
[20:26] <v0lt>  astraljava ok i'll  try it now
[20:26] <delta16> hey guy's
[20:26] <v0lt> thank you
[20:26] <astraljava> v0lt: No prob, hope it helps.
[20:26] <delta16> got a problem with my audio on my Aspire one D260
[20:27] <delta16> it has a intel hda
[20:27] <TameableExpert_> delta: whats the issue
[20:27] <delta16> i had audio but i broke it !! :S
[20:27] <townes> lol where are my camera fiends
[20:28] <delta16> wel i think the alsa is not loading the corect driver : snd-hda-intel
[20:28] <akash_> chenthu, I rebooted, GRUB looks different now (its 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3)  when I try to boot into ubuntu, I get the desktop, but the touchpad doesnt boot. ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f2 lead to a blank screen
[20:28] <edbian> townes: yo
[20:28] <townes> edbian, still no luck
[20:28] <edbian> townes: This is news?
[20:28] <townes> oh absolutely
[20:28] <townes> lol
[20:28] <delta16> whe i do an alsa force reload , it sais that alsa has nothing to realod
[20:28] <chenthu> boot in recovery mode
[20:29] <townes> edbian, sorry mate it's just bugging me
[20:29] <astraljava> delta16: If there's no-one here who knows what's going on, you can always check the documentation:
[20:29] <astraljava> !intelhda > delta16
[20:29] <townes> and I am googling and googling
[20:30] <edbian> townes: ha, sorry to hear that. pastebin sudo fdisk -l for me?
[20:30] <townes> alright one moment
[20:30] <delta16> i checked the whole documtentation and goolged for houres
[20:30] <akash_> chenthu, recovery mode is displaying "loading Linux 2.6.38-10-generic-pae ..." with no HDD activity
[20:30] <delta16> i even had to recompile and install alsa driver
[20:30] <gabriel_> hola
[20:30] <astraljava> delta16: Okay, sorry I can't help you further. :( Keep asking every once in a while, and you can also try askubuntu.com
[20:31] <chenthu> akash:wait for some time and tell me...whats the result
[20:31] <townes> edbian, http://pastebin.com/aT463RUw for your viewing pleasure
[20:31] <edbian> reading...
[20:32] <edbian> townes: It ain't there.  This is an old machine!  20Gb!!! :(
[20:32] <townes> I know, I know
[20:32] <townes> but lsusb shows it
[20:32] <townes> edbian, but feel free to laugh at my ancient machine hehe I don't mind
[20:32] <edbian> townes: That just means it connected.  Not that it's mountable storage device
[20:32] <townes> oh
[20:32] <townes> I can't give up on this!
[20:32] <AlanKey> ho does anyone know how i can use iso images in ubuntu 11.04?
[20:33] <edbian> AlanKey: You wanna use them?
[20:33] <Pici> townes: This is a big if, but you might look to see if gphoto2 and its gui tool can see the camera.
[20:33] <townes> Pici, okay
[20:33] <townes> Pici, I'm skeptical though from googling....but I will try
[20:34] <akash> chenthu, even the cursor isnt blinking , no HDD activity, no significant processor activity (it isnt getting warmer)  expected?
[20:34] <ThinkT510> !iso | AlanKey
[20:34] <craigbass1976> I'm having a bad time of it trying to get moonlight up and running with chromium in lucid.  Any ideas on which trees to bark up?
[20:35] <technicos> hi all
[20:35] <edbian> technicos: hello
[20:35] <technicos> to remove unity, shall i simply remove the package in the soft manager?
[20:35] <chenthu> akash: nope...this is bad...i am not sure whats happening....casue u should be able to atleast go into a comand line
[20:36] <ssfdre38> when will kernel 3.0 be set up for update on 11.04
[20:36] <edbian> technicos: I'm not sure how to remove it.  I know you can log into ubuntu classic.  Log out, click your name, change the session, log in.
[20:36] <edbian> ssfdre38: It will be used in 11.10
[20:36] <Pici> ssfdre38: Never. You'll see it in 11.10 though.
[20:36] <edbian> Pici: I win :P
[20:37] <ssfdre38> so if i want to use it on 11.04 i should update it myself
[20:37] <akash> chenthu, when I booted into windows. it displayed a "windows crashed" message and took an unusually long time to boot. is that related in any way?  (its a dual boot setup with win 7)
[20:37] <edbian> ssfdre38: yes
[20:37] <oops> when you download some software, extract it, where's the .exe file? I cant launch software. pls excuse my appalling rubbish noobyness\
[20:37] <chenthu> Akash: could be...u mighht have messed up the mbr..
[20:38] <edbian> akash: It's probably freaked because the partition size changed.  Additionally you may have hard reset in the early stages of windows
[20:38] <edbian> oops: We do not have .exe's in linux! :)
[20:38] <technicos> Technicus lol
[20:38] <chenthu> oops: no exe file here as in windows
[20:38] <oops> what the equivalent? thx
[20:38] <odn> hello
[20:38] <maco> oops: no file extension is needed
[20:38] <Technicus> technicos: HEY!
[20:38] <edbian> oops: Depends on where you downloaded it from / what format the software was packaged.  Why aren't you using the package manager?
[20:38] <edbian> odn: hello
[20:38] <odn> :)
[20:38] <oops> so how do you launch the software? I couldnt work out which file to use
[20:38] <townes> Pici, is f-spot a frontend for gphoto??
[20:39] <chenthu> oops: depends in the distro, build and type
[20:39] <edbian> oops: ./path/to/file/
[20:39] <townes> the readme seems to imply that but I didn't think it was
[20:39] <edbian> oops: Or double click the correct file
[20:39] <oops> package manager...
[20:39] <akash> chenthu, I was able to boot into the recovery mode of the oldest version of ubuntu on the system.. what should I do now? (I have a pink screen with a menu listing resume,clean,dpkg,failsafeX,etc..)
[20:39] <edbian> oops: the package manager, ubuntu software center, synaptic, apt-get...
[20:39] <maco> oops: have you come across the Ubuntu Software Center yet?
[20:39] <odn> does someone knows the name of the ubuntu coman-line installer and the package it's in ? (he alternate installer)
[20:39] <odn> the*
[20:39] <Pici> townes: I was thinking of using gtkam
[20:39] <oops> nope, not software centre or package manager
[20:39] <townes> okay
[20:39] <Technicus> Hello . . . how can Ubuntu be setup for internet connection sharing via broadcasting a wifi and by connecting through ethernet?
[20:39] <Pici> townes: I'm not sure if f-spot uses gphoto or not.
[20:40] <TBotNik> All:  Still trying to fix my remote network.  Forum write up at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1804424&page=3  Hope we can whip this today.  Thanks!
[20:40] <oops> or I can uise the command line?
[20:40] <chenthu> akash: try failsafe
[20:40] <ThinkT510> !manual | oops
[20:40] <oops> :)) thx
[20:40] <edbian> oops: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/add-applications/C/add-applications-introduction.html
[20:40] <townes> Pici, for some reason i don't think it does, the readme file for gphoto seemed to imply it
[20:40] <edbian> oops: My link is specifically about package managers
[20:40] <technicos> edbian : should be ok, i sat off unity and installed gnome, ill see whats happening
[20:40] <edbian> technicos: sat off?
[20:40] <townes> dling gtkam now
[20:40] <townes> pray for me br
[20:40] <townes> bro*
[20:40] <townes> =/
[20:40] <step2> edbian, he's using 8.04?
[20:41] <edbian> step2: No but that's the newest guide
[20:41] <akash> chenthu, IT seems to be working fine now.. (in the recovery mode)
[20:41] <step2> oh ...
[20:41] <edbian> step2: It talks about package managers, not really specific to 10.04
[20:41] <jiffe> is there anyway to create separate routing tables in /etc/network/interfaces for each interface?  I'm trying to use the `up` indicator but I'm getting a syntax error, although it works fine from command line
[20:42] <chenthu> akash: i think u better find the right display driver
[20:42] <oops> thankyou edbian
[20:42] <Technicus> MUGGS!
[20:42] <chenthu> akash: or other driver
[20:42] <edbian> oops: sure
[20:43] <TBotNik> All: Got back to having IPs on LAN via dhcp3-server, but can not ping hard address or names.  Had hard addresses working before, but on new install now.
[20:43] <v0lt> astraljava, it works thanks man :D
[20:44] <Technicus> How can Ubuntu be setup for multiple pointers . . . say separate onscreenn pointers for two separate mice and keyboard combinations?
[20:45] <Monotoko> Technicus, interesting and unique question...do you have two monitors as well?
[20:45] <DARKGuy_> hey, I'm trying to share a folder using samba (server edition) but the client can't create folders or edit files, it says Access Denied. Folder has read only = no and browseable = yes, so, wtf?
[20:46] <Technicus> Monotoko: Well was not thinking about that . . . but it seems to add a dimension.
[20:46] <blackswan> hi. natty evolution, exchange 2003 server, suddenly i can't see any of my contacts any more. outlook web access can still see them. ideas?
[20:46] <townes> Pici, I love you
[20:46] <Monotoko> DARKGuy_, have you actually given the folder write permissions in SAMBA? Not sure how you would do it in the server edition but I'm sure someone else does :)
[20:47] <townes> edbian, thank you as ewll
[20:47] <townes> well*
[20:47] <townes> Pici, but it worked!!!
[20:47] <Monotoko> Technicus, I see a lot of questions repeat themselves...never seen or thought about that, let me have a look...
[20:47] <edbian> DARKGuy_: just as a test: sudo chmod -R 777 /path/to/folder/
[20:47] <DARKGuy_> Monotoko, I think so :/
[20:47] <edbian> townes: yay :)
[20:47] <Pici> townes: Wow! Great!
[20:47] <edbian> Pici: good guess
[20:47] <DARKGuy_> edbian, yeah but 777 makes *everything* executable and I need to preserve the non-x bit sometimes
[20:47] <townes> :) thanks guys
[20:48] <edbian> DARKGuy_: Yes, it is just a quick test to see if permissions are the issue
[20:48] <DARKGuy_> oh, okay
[20:48] <Monotoko> DARKGuy_, try: guest ok = yes
[20:48] <edbian> DARKGuy_: You need execution to view a folder
[20:48] <Technicus> Monotoko:  Ok . . . thanks.
[20:49] <akash> chenthu, Ok, after some more trial and error, Ubuntu seems to be stuck in a partial upgraded state for me. The oldest kernel boots to GNOME, 2.6.35-30 boots to UNity , while the latest one ( 2.6.38-10 ) doesnt work(boots to GNOME desktop, but with non functional mouse, ctrl+alt+f2 gives a blank screen and hangs it)  1st 2 show the correct version of 11.04
[20:49] <akash> IS it still likely to be a video driver issue?
[20:50] <DARKGuy_> Monotoko, edbian: guest ok = yes does nothing, restarting the samba service says it's ignoring such parameter because it's unrecognized, and with a test folder, changing it to 777 worked, but then again that's not the case for me
[20:50] <edbian> DARKGuy_: not the case for you?
[20:50] <chenthu> Akash: Natty is highly messed up...the most probs i faced was display issues
[20:50] <Monotoko> Technicus, as far as I can work out theres a program called TeamPlayer...you might want to look here for more info: http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=two+mice+one+computer+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk (I know..two mice one computer...lol!)
[20:50] <DARKGuy_> edbian, nope because I need to preserve the permissions, not give everything 777
[20:50] <Monotoko> the articles seem a bit outdated though
[20:51] <edbian> DARKGuy_: try 770
[20:51] <chenthu> akash: back up and go for a clean 10.04 install
[20:51] <akash> chenthu, ok, I'll do that
[20:51] <edbian> DARKGuy_: or 771  and then try settings samba's user as the group and give group 7
[20:52] <chenthu> akash :)
[20:52] <akash> chenthu, should I backup windows data as well? (same physical drive)
[20:52] <DARKGuy_> edbian, 770-771 doesn't allow to browse it
[20:52] <edbian> DARKGuy_: make samba's group the group owner
[20:52] <chenthu> akash: i dont think so...but the problem is...i havent seen the actual scenario so i could be wrong....if u really have something that is invaluable then better back up...even in windows...
[20:52] <DARKGuy_> edbian, okay, how do I do that?
[20:52] <edbian> DARKGuy_: (we almost def want 771 or 775
[20:53] <DARKGuy_> I don't know how to manage groups very well
[20:53] <edbian> DARKGuy_: sudo chown _R root:<samba'suser> /path/to/folder
[20:53] <Technicus> Monotoko: I shall continue the investigation.
[20:53] <chenthu> akash: what is your sys config?
[20:53] <edbian> DARKGuy_: IDK samba's group or if the current owner is root
[20:53] <edbian> DARKGuy_: but I'm guessing it is root
[20:53] <Monotoko> Technicus, sorry I couldn't help you more...but if you get something working, let me know :)
[20:53] <akash> chenthu, Lenovo R61 with C2D 1.8GHz , 4GB RAM, Intel integrated graphics
[20:54] <chenthu> akash: intel graphics should work...hmmm....
[20:54] <Technicus> Monotoko: Indeed.
[20:54] <chenthu> akash: but u back up imporatant data then can experiment
[20:54] <DARKGuy_> edbian, hmn, but I don't have any samba user created, I have it (and want) anonymous
[20:54] <akash> chenthu, would it cause issues if I keep using 2.6.35 with unity?  can I make it the default in GRUB?
[20:55] <DARKGuy_> edbian, there's a "sambashare" group with me on it
[20:55] <chenthu> akash: as long as this one works...just make it default.....as soon as can get in back up everything
[20:55] <edbian> DARKGuy_: samba has a user that it users to do stuff on the system.  (because it doesn't run as you).  all the windows / linux users that access this folder will appear to be 'samba user'
[20:55] <chenthu> akash; did u try nomodeset in the boot o[ptions?
[20:55] <edbian> DARKGuy_: pastebin /etc/passwd and /etc/group and I will be able to tell what samba group you need to set that file too.
[20:55] <edbian> Get it?
[20:56] <bynw> Hi, the folders in the ~ dirctory have special icons from other folders. how to i use those same icons for folders elsewhere?
[20:56] <akash> chenthu, ok..   can you tell me how to make it default?  (I dont know what nomodeset is )
[20:56] <edbian> DARKGuy_: paste.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <TBotNik> Who knows about dns-nameservers?
[20:57] <DARKGuy_> edbian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/653360/
[20:57] <AaronDCampbell> Is there a log that shows what packages were recently updated?
[20:58] <AaronDCampbell> I use Update Manager in Gnome for all my updates if that makes a difference
[20:58] <rww> AaronDCampbell: look into /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/apt/*
[20:59] <edbian> DARKGuy_: sudo chown -R root:sambashare /path/to/folder
[20:59] <edbian> DARKGuy_: then make it 775 or somethin'
[20:59] <chenthu> akash: u can do that by either going into windows or through ubuntu...or using a software easybcd....available for both... nomodet disables the default driver ...
[20:59] <oops> am I having problems cos I'm in ubuntu 7.1? nothing seems to work...
[20:59] <edbian> oops: 7.10 ???  That's from 2007
[20:59] <DARKGuy_> edbian, nah, it doesn't work with <777
[21:00] <prathamb> .
[21:00] <rww> !eol | oops
[21:00] <edbian> DARKGuy_: I thought it did work with 777?
[21:00] <edbian> DARKGuy_: What are you talking about?
[21:00] <AaronDCampbell> rww: Thanks.  I rebooted (after having not done that for a little while) and everything looks graphically different (all icons in panel, etc) so I was wondering what upgrade did that
[21:00] <Polah> AaronDCampbell, /var/log/apt/history.log should show recent changes from apt.
[21:00] <oops> I just had the cd kicking around whn windoze died
[21:00] <DARKGuy_> edbian, yeah it works with 777, but not with less
[21:00] <DARKGuy_> edbian, the chown did no effect
[21:00] <edbian> DARKGuy_: It should with with 775 if you change the group
[21:00] <oops> to update it without installing i need to download the latest version and make a new cd.. right?
[21:00] <edbian> DARKGuy_: Did it change the owner and group?
[21:00] <chenthu> akash: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_make_Ubuntu_the_default_boot_option.3F
[21:00] <DARKGuy_> edbian, now it says root   sambashare
[21:01] <DARKGuy_> edbian, yes I typed your command :P
[21:01] <edbian> DARKGuy_: But you still can't access it?
[21:01] <akash> chenthu, I'm not using Wubi .. its a native dusl boot install
[21:01] <akash> *dual
[21:01] <DARKGuy_> edbian, that's correct
[21:01] <oops> Ive got the partitions ready, i wanted a dula boot, but couldnt manage it on my own. i dont want to install ubuntu fully now as I really need to repai wondoze first and get my info off from there
[21:01] <edbian> DARKGuy_: Well there are no other samba user's or groups so I have no idea.
[21:02] <edbian> DARKGuy_: I reboot may help.
[21:02] <DARKGuy_> edbian, oh well, it's okay u.u
[21:02] <DARKGuy_> hmn
[21:02] <DARKGuy_> I haven't rebooted yet...
[21:02] <DARKGuy_> :P
[21:02] <edbian> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html
[21:02] <chenthu> akash: i dint mention wubi too
[21:02] <AaronDCampbell> Polah and rww: Thanks.  Looks like I got libqtcore4 since my last reboot...so that explains it.
[21:02] <CLF1> need help fixing samba4...broken and cannot repair broken package....what should I do
[21:02] <chenthu> u better download Easybcd and install in windows then u can use to select default
[21:03] <djskidd> GUYS, STORY TIME
[21:03] <djskidd> So my friend was at summer school today
[21:03] <chenthu> akash: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=517513
[21:04] <oCean> djskidd: wrong channel
[21:04] <djskidd> Yi.
[21:05] <bynw> Hi, the folders in the ~ directory have special icons from other folders. how to i use those same icons for folders elsewhere?
[21:05] <kubanc> anyone ever tried to connect hdd 2.5 inch disk via USB to SATA & PATA Combo Bridge
[21:06] <chenthu> akash: i think your desktop is corrupted...
[21:06] <prathamb> .
[21:06] <Guest42318> anyone here know why a Drive would be telling me that my dvd is blank when I know there is data on it?
[21:06] <chenthu> akash:better backup and reinstall
[21:06] <akash> chenthu, I think I'll do that only.. this is getting too complex
[21:06] <chenthu> Guest42318: Ur dvd drive is not working or dvd is corrupted
[21:07] <chenthu> akash: complex but u can learn
[21:07] <duckx0r> I updated to the latest kernel using kernelcheck and I get an error when trying to reinstall my ATI drivers. http://pastebin.com/R5m46iH1 Does anyone know how I can fix this? Do I need to recompile the kernel with some sort of missing support?
[21:07] <chenthu> akash:if u had this system infront of me i would help u really bro...i am sorry. that i cannot help u much on this ....
[21:07] <akash> thats fine.. thanks for the help
[21:08] <CLF1> can you help me fix my samba4 that seems to be corrupt...it won't repair
[21:09] <LinuxMan> gu
[21:09] <LinuxMan> hi
[21:09] <carandraug> hi! very simple question with irssi? How do I exit? I can't find it on the documentation. A search for exit, close or quit returns nothing. And there's also nothing on the man page
[21:09] <TBotNik> I would if a simple Q, but not that.  As I stated, in my writeup, got IPs on LAN via eth0 (local remote network) coming from dhcp3-server, but can not ping hard addresses or names.  I ping fine on this box that bridges them via wlan0 (the internet connect) so either a bridging issue or dns-nameserver issue.  Trying to debug.  Can you help?
[21:09] <acovrig> is it possible to boot an encrypted lvm-ext4 partition without a password-using a keyfile on a fat32 partition?
[21:09] <prathamb> some c++ codes wont work in linux
[21:10] <Guest42318> I've googled "Dvd drive doesn't work", "Won't read DVDs" , etc... and I haven't ran across anything relevant to this situation. It likes to bring up stuff about burning dvds, or how I should use Windows to record a DVD
[21:10] <prathamb> is ther a good c++ compiler for linux??
[21:10] <Guest42318> g++
[21:10] <Guest42318> comes installed
[21:10] <prathamb> i get lot of errors
[21:10] <Guest42318> or NetBeans, or CodeLite
[21:10] <kubanc> is this a good command to mount disk.... sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/ps3
[21:10] <Guest42318> I use both of those
[21:11] <wildbat> TBotNik:  you done with DCHP-servevr? ~ so you mean LAN side can't ping WAN ~ or can't ping your router box?
[21:11] <Guest42318> NetBeans reminds me a lot of the Microsoft Visual Studio IDE
[21:11] <ThinkT510> kubanc: as long as the divice and the directories exist then yes
[21:12] <TBotNik> wildbat U-box is the router.
[21:12] <wildbat> TBotNik: you know there are packages that can setup your box just a professional router ,  check e-box
[21:13] <wildbat> TBotNik: that what i mean. can you LAN side PC ping the router box LAN ip/ WAN ip?
[21:13] <Guest42318> to PM someone you do use "/msg" without quotes correct? Been a while since I have used this IRC client
[21:13] <Polah> kubanc: Yes, looks fine to me.
[21:13] <Reikoku> Guest42318: Yes
[21:13] <jeremym> we are using a very old version of ubuntu...version 8.04.  I need to upgrade GCC to at least 4.2.4.  According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/gcc-4.2/download it is there.
[21:14] <jeremym> however when i do apt-get update gcc it says im using the newest version.  I know im not
[21:14] <jeremym> gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)
[21:14] <jeremym> thats the version thats installed...any ideas why i cant update htat package with apt-get
[21:14] <Reikoku> jeremym: Need a dist-upgrade probably
[21:14] <Reikoku> Old servers arent all maintained
[21:14] <jeremym> thats what i was afraid someone would say haha
[21:14] <chenthu> is there a way i can download gnome 3 seperately and then install on ubuntu?
[21:15] <kubanc> Polah, it's the PS3 hdd disk, so i don't know which filesystem type to use, and it looks like ubuntu also doesn't know, because it's asking me for mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[21:15] <step2> jeremym, do apt-get upgrade gcc-4.2 ?
[21:15] <TBotNik> All: Wait a minute, I just did new install and may have forgot install of bridgin utils, BRB checking!
[21:15] <ThinkT510> !gnome3 | chenthu
[21:15] <Reikoku> chenthu: Is apt-get not working?
[21:15] <jeremym> step2, if i do that it wants to upgrade the OS
[21:16] <Reikoku> jeremym: Grab gcc sources and compile?
[21:16] <jeremym> well thats always an option...but according to ubuntus site there is a debian package for it in the security repo
[21:16] <jeremym> however i dont see it
[21:16] <step2> mmmh. do you only have oldish sources in package sources? or new ones too?
[21:16] <trism> jeremym: apt-get install gcc-4.2; will just update that individual package if necessary, and any other packages needed by it
[21:17] <martin_tsc> how can I run a script as su?
[21:17] <naptastic> Alright, I've purged all traces of my custom kernel and the modifications I tried to make to fglrx, I purged the entire OpenGL / Mesa stack, cleared my apt cache, then reinstalled everything, apt-get installed fglrx, which reported no errors, and 3D apps **STILL** segfault on start. WTF?!
[21:17] <chenthu> ThibnkT510: thanks
[21:17] <jeremym> that worked trism.  Thank you very much
[21:17] <naptastic> martin_tsc, sudo ./script-name?
[21:17] <step2> jeremym, maybe the new gcc really depends on lots of other packages that have to be updated, doesn't mean os is update even if it seems a lot
[21:17] <chenthu> Reikoku: i am not connected to net .... :)
[21:18] <Reikoku> chenthu: Apparently it's going to break everything, but you could grab sources from gnome3 site if you dont mind
[21:18] <TBotNik> K bridging utils missing, so installing, will take a while.
[21:18] <martin_tsc> naptastic, doesnt work, needs to be done as root via sudo su, but how can I put this in the script to run with cron?
[21:18] <ThinkT510> chenthu: 11.10 should have proper support for gnome3
[21:18] <Polah> kubanc: I believe the PS3 uses FAT32. Try sudo mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb /media/ps3
[21:19] <chenthu> reikoku..yeah but i would better stick with the previous version lol
[21:19] <kubanc> Polah, if it was using fat32 then the windows XP OS would recognized it, but it didn't
[21:19] <chenthu> ThinkT510: when is 11.10 releasing?
[21:20] <ThinkT510> chenthu: the clue is in the name
[21:20] <Polah> kubanc: I just recall something about FAT32 and PS3. Perhaps look up mounting PS3 drives on ubuntu
[21:20] <edwardthefma> hey who knows any thing about ubuntu and mac
[21:20] <rww> chenthu: October
[21:20] <chenthu> lol'
[21:20] <chenthu> ok
[21:20] <rww> chenthu: (Ubuntu version numbers are year.month)
[21:20] <edwardthefma> i need a person not the wiki
[21:20] <chenthu> rww: oh ok thanks for the info
[21:20] <Reikoku> chenthu: You can grab a beta version
[21:20] <ra21vi> hi, I am not able to install Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit on Dell XPS 15z. Any help would be appreciated.
[21:21] <Polah> ra21vi: Specifics on why you can't install it or what happens when you try would be good.
[21:21] <chenthu> reikoku: yeah but natty is in itself buggy....how abt a beeta?
[21:21] <martin_tsc> is there some line/code I can add to a script equivalent to "sudo su"?
[21:22] <acovrig> is it possible to boot an encrypted lvm-ext4 partition without a password-using a keyfile on a fat32 partition?
[21:23] <ra21vi> Polah: I boot from CD, gets the initial screen, i put acpi=off and then screen hangs foor quite some nits, then black scree comes for another 5-6 mins... does nothing
[21:24] <bynw> anyone know how to change the icons of folders to match some of those within the home directory? like how the music folder has a musical note on it ... i want to use that same icon for another folder elsewhere on the system. thanks
[21:24] <martin_tsc> bynw, right click, permission
[21:24] <martin_tsc> bynw, right click, permission, then the icon tab
[21:24] <Polah> martin_tsc, bynw: Emblems tab
[21:25] <danDirOfIT> register password danmc58@gmail.com
[21:25] <chenthu> is there a way to male a customized distro...
[21:25] <ThinkT510> danDirOfIT: you may need a new password
[21:26] <danDirOfIT> why registration hasn't worked for three days now
[21:26] <chenthu> danDirOfIT: send that to nickserv
[21:26] <oCean> !register | danDirOfIT
[21:26]  * edwardthefma need help with mac and ubuntu
[21:26] <bynw> martin_tsc: there is a right click and properties and no icon tab
[21:26] <edwardthefma> lol needs
[21:27] <danDirOfIT> join #freenode
[21:27] <acovrig> edwardthefma: be more specific
[21:27] <oCean> /join #freenode danDirOfIT
[21:27] <ThinkT510> edwardthefma: for someone to help you you need to tell us the problem
[21:27] <prathamb> lol
[21:27] <chenthu> Some who is free can help me join a discussion on making our own build of linux.........
[21:27] <Polah> danDirOfIT: Because you need to send it to nickserv. Do /msg nickserv register and it'll tell you want to send to register. Then do it again with the values for password and suchlike you want
[21:27] <Polah> chenthu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[21:28] <edwardthefma> i got a mac g3 im trying to install ubunu on it
[21:28] <Reikoku> chenthu: Why would you want to make your own build (I assume you mean distro) of Linux?
[21:28] <acovrig> edwardthefma: and what is ur problem with it?
[21:28] <chenthu> Polah: not live cd customization...a complete build...
[21:28] <Polah> chenthu: Compiling your own kernel?
[21:28] <bynw> martin_tsc: there is an emblems tab but only options to add to the current design nothing to completely change it
[21:29] <chenthu> Reikoku: just curious...i always wanted to build one for me so i get what i want
[21:29] <Reikoku> chenthu: You mean a distro or a kernel build?
[21:29] <Reikoku> chenthu: Grab LFS and build away then :P
[21:29] <chenthu> Polah: yeah///downloading kernel from kernel.org
[21:29] <oCean> !remaster | chenthu
[21:29] <chenthu> Reikoku: distro
[21:30] <Reikoku> chenthu: You'd have a lot of work, you have to manage the package repositories and bump every program when it gets upgraded
[21:30] <Reikoku> Probably compile it for every arch you support
[21:30] <oCean> chenthu, Reikoku  remember, this is not really a discussion channel. You can use #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[21:30] <Polah> chenthu: That's not really an Ubuntu support question.
[21:31] <chenthu> reikoku: i can use repositories of 3rd party
[21:31] <Reikoku> chenthu: Suggest http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ if you wan to learn more
[21:31] <Reikoku> chenthu: Then you're not making a distro
[21:31] <Polah> Chenthu: If you want to customize the Ubuntu distro, then you'll want the link I gave you. Building your own distro is a bit more difficult.
[21:31] <Reikoku> The main differences between distros are in package management
[21:32] <chenthu> Polah ocean: thanks for the info and sry if that was disturning....it was just a doubt...
[21:32] <oCean> chenthu: you're most welcome to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:32] <chenthu> Reikoku: thats a good link....thank u
[21:32] <chenthu> ocean: tq
[21:33] <Reikoku> I recommend everyone builds LFS at least once even if just for the experience chenthu
[21:33] <ben_q> hey guys, is there a tweak that would allow me to set a different default browser for a specific domain?
[21:33] <acovrig> I doubt that figuring out how to build your own distro is not off-topic, it seems quite on-topic to me
[21:33] <chenthu> Reikoku: yeah for saure thats my point to so we can conbtri bute a lot to opensource adn Ubuntu as well
[21:34] <Reikoku> acovrig: It's not really on topic, this is #ubuntu not #linux
[21:34] <Polah> ben_q: What do you mean? Using a specific browser for a specific website?
[21:34] <acovrig> Reikoku: true, but if they are starting from ubuntu (based on ubuntu) then, it seems like a good place to start
[21:35] <oCean> ok, let's drop the discussion, and continue with support ok?
[21:35] <ben_q> yes, Polah
[21:35] <Reikoku> Who needs support? :P
[21:36] <Reikoku> ben_q: The easiest way I can think of is write a script which takes the URL, then determines the browser, and set the script as your default URL handler
[21:36] <meway> what should I do to go about mentioning ubuntu on my site?
[21:36] <Technicus> Monotoko: I Have studied the MPX modification: [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Pointer_X ], and it has been integrated into Xorg since Intrepid.  There is a way to invoke it by following this wiki: [ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/MPX ].  However, I am using Compiz and they do not cooperate with each other.
[21:36] <meway> I would like to throw more people in ubuntu's direction
[21:36] <Reikoku> meway: Mentioning in what context
[21:36] <meway> a link or so
[21:36] <W43372> Hi everybody!
[21:36] <Reikoku> meway: What is your site about?
[21:36] <Polah> ben_q: Not as a program or anything. Reikoku's idea might work. Why would you need to open a website in a specific browser?; display problems?
[21:36] <Reikoku> Is it hosted on ubuntu or something?
[21:37] <Reikoku> Polah: I used to do that when I had one browser on a VPN and one on another VNP
[21:37] <Reikoku> VPN*
[21:37] <meway> Reikoku, yes It is hosted on ubuntu, but I work on pc's and I want customers to try ubuntu.
[21:37] <oCean> meway: this channel is for technical support. There's channels like #ubuntu-marketing for discussion/help like that
[21:38] <meway> thanks oCean
[21:38] <ben_q> Polah, it's a session thing. I'm playing a browser game only on opera (due to some things possible there). for anything else I use FF. but when links from the game are posted on skype, it will open the links in FF then by default
[21:38] <ben_q> I will try Reikoku's idea
[21:39] <ben_q> I suppose setting a simple shell script as default browser then!?
[21:39] <ben_q> should have thought of that myself
[21:39] <ThinkT510> you just did
[21:39] <Reikoku> ben_q: That should work, browser handler functions just pass a parameter to a program so you could set up a shell script to take that parameter and pass it to the browser you want
[21:39] <W43372> I'm making a USB startup disk on Ubuntu. The .iso I need is on my NAS how do I browse to the NAS in the SDC without having to download the iso to my hard drive from the NAS?
[21:39] <Reikoku> I did it in perl with regexp
[21:40] <Reikoku> W43372: Mount the NAS
[21:40] <Monotoko> Technicus, thank you very much :)
[21:41] <NWH> #xubuntu-devel
[21:41] <Reikoku> W43372: It's probably got a builtin NFS or SMB server
[21:41] <W43372> Reioku The NAS is mounted. I just don't know how to navigate to it when I'm using the program to select a source iso, it takes me to the home folder
[21:42] <NotreDev> i just created a new user, and copied my home folder over under their name, and did a chown'd for the new user. however, when i "su - newuser", i'm unable to do basic things like "source ~/.bashrc" and my env is quite different. why is this?
[21:42] <Reikoku> Where is it mounted?
[21:42] <Reikoku> You probably have to choose root file system from your program, W43372
[21:43] <Technicus> Monotoko: It is super easy to make a second pointer, but I have Compiz enabled and it doesn't refresh the second pointer with all the amazing effects that are going on.
[21:43] <NWH> How do I edit my html file /var/www/html
[21:44] <Technicus> Monotoko:  I have gone on to #compiz and am asking if anyone knows any way to get them to cooperate.
[21:44] <W43372> Reioku cant find
[21:45] <NWH> I have a simple question.
[21:45] <NWH> How do I edit my html file /var/www/html
[21:45] <Polah> NWH: command line or graphical editor?
[21:45] <NWH> graphical editor
[21:46] <th0r> NWH: kompozer?
[21:46] <NWH> yes
[21:46] <NWH> and Kate
[21:46] <Polah> NWH: gedit /var/www/html or gksudo gedit /var/www/html depending on whether you will not or will need root permissions to edit it
[21:46] <orchata> NWH: Right click =>  open with => kompozer?
[21:47] <Polah> NWH: Hmm, not gedit then. I just assumed you were on GNOME.
[21:47] <W43372> Reioku cant find
[21:50] <NWH> orchata: right clicked, now open...
[21:50] <NWH> orchata: That is what I did " Right click =>  open with => kompozer?"
[21:50] <W43372> Where do I look to find my NAS in the file system?
[21:51] <orchata> NWH: so did it open it?
[21:51] <NWH> orchata: yes.
[21:52] <th0r> orchata: I think he is looking for help on the actual html code
[21:52] <NWH> orchata & thor: I can't edit  the code.
[21:52] <orchata> NWH: what do you mean by saying you cannot edit it?
[21:52] <th0r> NWH: if it opened, why can't you edit it?
[21:53] <NWH> orchata & thor: Edit the text.
[21:53] <NWH> orchata & thor: Beginner stuff here.
[21:54] <th0r> NWH: I am not into playing twenty questions. If you can't supply some information about the problem I can't help
[21:54] <orchata> NWH:   You cannot type/delete stuff?
[21:54] <NWH> orchata: yes
[21:54] <orchata> NWH: can you open terminal?
[21:55] <NWH> orchata: yes.
[21:55] <bynw> NWH: since the file is located in /var you need to open it with gksudo since as your regular user login you dont have write permission in the /var directory
[21:56] <orchata> NWH:  open terminal and type:     gksudo /var/www/<name of your file>
[21:56] <orchata> and then enter the password
[21:57] <th0r> orchata: gksudo kompozer /var/www........?
[21:58] <NWH> orchata: Right and it prompts me for my password.
[21:58] <orchata> th0r: well, yeah you are right
[21:58] <orchata> NWH:  type your password and it will open it
[21:58] <Ynodde> hai guys
[21:59] <Ynodde> question for opinion, on my ubuntu server/router should i manage fw with ufw or just my old iptables script
[21:59] <th0r> Ynodde: the end result would be the same
[22:00] <NWH> Orchata: Terminal says: "/usr/share/themes/MurrinaBleu/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:85: Murrine configuration option "scrollbar_color" is no longer supported and will be ignored.
[22:00] <NWH> "
[22:00] <NWH> orchata: I can open the index.html file
[22:01] <Ynodde> th0r:aye, just wondering what is more ubuntu ;)
[22:01] <NWH> orchata: I cannot edit the code/text/words...
[22:01] <dr_willis> some people find ufw limiting...
[22:01] <NWH> orchata: Inside of the index.html file
[22:01] <Ynodde> havent used ufw as of yet
[22:04] <NWH> Thor: Thanks a lot it worked. You are a good man.
[22:05] <esing2> hi
[22:05] <esing> i forgot how to setup ethtool :(
[22:06] <esing> how would I find the port which is set? would i have to find the config file or hows that working?
[22:07] <esing> also how do I see my startup entries?
[22:07] <esing> I remember that I put ethtool to the startup
[22:07] <dr_willis> Port? I thought ethtool just confiured some interface settings
[22:08] <esing> dr_willis hm I remember that it uses a port which I can send the magic package to
[22:08] <dr_willis> !startup
[22:08] <orchata> NWH: show the results of:   ls -l /var/www/index.html
[22:09] <elslunko> Anyone have a suggestion for a good pci or usb wireless adapter? Moved my work PC to a new room and want to go wireless.
[22:09] <dr_willis> id avoide the USB ones..
[22:09] <esing> i remember very lightly that I put it to some init folder so it started up automatically
[22:09] <esing> (iam not sure about that)
[22:09] <dr_willis> esing:  /etc/init/
[22:09] <esing> ah okay
[22:09] <dr_willis> esing:  but you dont just put things in there.. you make a proper upstart script for things
[22:10] <elslunko> dr_willis, Yeah from what I've read they're generally bad, I suppose I'll start my search with pci ones.
[22:10] <esing> dr_willis ahhh exactly!
[22:10] <esing> i had a script for that
[22:10] <esing> damn how things which i dont use often just forget so fast
[22:10] <owner> SOS! I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed, but somehow someone overwrote the GRUB and everything with the boot loader for XP.
[22:10] <stuxpoop> Hello, I need to do the following command ar xjvf modusb-linux.tar.bz2 -C /media/blah blah blah - but when i do cd /media/ ls
[22:10] <stuxpoop> It lists my usb
[22:11] <stuxpoop> as Mac OS X Install DVD - so i do ar xjvf modusb-linux.tar.bz2 -C /media/Mac OS X Install DVD it says no file or directory i just cant work it out
[22:11] <owner> I need to know how to restore the Grub and boot loader to dual boot from 10.04 live
[22:11] <owner> I'm running on a live USB now 10.04
[22:12] <stuxpoop> How do I CD into my USB? I know the name of it and know its under Media but I just cant seem to get it to work for me
[22:12] <jrib> stuxpoop: either escape or quote your spaces
[22:13] <stuxpoop> jrib: Well I've named the USB OSX - but under cd /media/ ls it calls it Mac OS X Install so am rather confused
[22:14] <jrib> stuxpoop: did you see what I toldy ou?
[22:14] <owner> am I invisible?
[22:14] <jrib> owner: no way of knowing over irc
[22:14] <stuxpoop> jrib: Yes, I dont quite understand what u mean - can u give me an example please
[22:15] <jrib> stuxpoop: change /media/Mac OS X Install DVD to: /media/'Mac OS X Install DVD'
[22:15] <owner> Ok. when the computer starts it does not show a boot loader, just goes right into XP. How to I re-write the Linux boot loader / Grub to the HD from a Live disk?
[22:15] <stuxpoop> oh ok thanks
[22:15] <stuxpoop> I'll try that
[22:15] <stuxpoop> jrib: thanks that worked for me
[22:15] <jrib> !grub | owner
[22:15] <jrib> stuxpoop: no problem
[22:15] <BlueMatt> any guesses as to why mountall isnt daemonizing and is just exiting?
[22:16] <owner> that's just great, how do I restore Grub2 and the boot loader
[22:16] <jrib> owner: read what ubottu said
[22:17] <owner> yes that's all well and good but it doesn't say how to restore it from a live disk
[22:17] <jrib> owner: more specifically, click and read the first link in what ubottu said
[22:20] <wonderwal> hi im using ubuntu server 11, how do i recompile the kernel?
[22:20] <esing> hopefully it works
[22:20] <esing> gonna try it the setup now
[22:24] <ejv> so
[22:24] <ejv> i can't type when grub loads
[22:24] <ejv> epic fail ubuntu
[22:27] <dajxd> is it possible to boot XP live from a partition with grub?  i can't get it to recognize the OS.
[22:30] <ldlework> Is there a way to programatically, temporarilly, disable the mouse?
[22:30] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[22:30] <allowoverride> in what file and where does the utility `locate` store its findings, where is the DB??? im on ubuntu linux 10.10
[22:30] <wolter> is there a way the Run Dialog can use the path
[22:31] <wolter> ?
[22:31] <wolter> (env var)
[22:31] <allowoverride> ? huh
[22:31] <qin> !locate
[22:31] <allowoverride> duh
[22:31] <allowoverride> thanks qin, not what i asked
[22:32] <allowoverride> where does it store its cache is the question in otherwords
[22:32] <katrin> allowoverride: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db i guess
[22:33] <th0r> allowoverride: have you looked at the man page for updatedb?
[22:33] <allowoverride> katrin: yah good guess, i try,, brb
[22:33] <allowoverride> th0r: its locate, just where the db/cache is all i need, either you know or your dont, thanks
[22:33] <th0r> allowoverride: it is clearly defined at the end of updatedb man page...updatedb is the program that creates the database
[22:34] <allowoverride> wow really? gee thanks th0r, tell oden hello for me
[22:34] <wolter> allowoverride, no need to be rude, hes just teaching you could get to know that kind of stuff in future occasions
[22:34] <allowoverride> im just looking for a file name is all... sheshh
[22:34] <wolter> in his own way
[22:34] <allowoverride> wolter: this room is often rude, so... whats your point?
[22:34] <allowoverride> brb i have things to do...
[22:35] <wolter> allowoverride, so you want to be rude as well?
[22:35] <qin> Sweet, /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db, bye.
[22:35] <th0r> wolter: no problem. Too many ubunties don't want to learn...they just want to pass the test
[22:36] <wonderwal> which file has the options which are passed to modules when they are loaded?
[22:36] <allowoverride> send a copy of that test to me there th0r see how i do... then you can comment thereafter ;)
[22:36] <joint> hello. does anybody here use Ubuntu?
[22:40] <kirk__> Hey
[22:40] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[22:40] <allowoverride> i found my answer.... in #linux room
[22:41] <allowoverride> thanks katrin that helped
[22:41] <kirk__> I have a set of computers that kernel panic when the screen goes blank at the login screen. I want to disable that.
[22:41] <allowoverride> i thought it was /var/db/something.db
[22:41] <allowoverride> lol
[22:41] <allowoverride> every distro has to play with paths... yawn
[22:44] <allowoverride> joint: you thinking about trying Ubuntu?
[22:45] <Chat8741>  xxx
[22:46] <edwardthefma> i need help instyalling ubuntu on my mac
[22:46] <W43372> Hi everybody!
[22:47] <edwardthefma> it says it cant find the hard disk and asks me wich driver i want to use
[22:47] <W43372> I was wondering if it was possible to partition a flash drive so that it shows up as multiple drives when I plug it in.
[22:47] <iceroot> W43372: sure
[22:48] <W43372> iceroot, if it works I was wanting to install a different boot disk on different partitions ubuntu, DBAN, etc. You think that would work?
[22:49] <iceroot> W43372: there is no difference between a real harddisc and a flash-drive. you could do the same things with partitions
[22:50] <W43372> So a partitioned flash drive with a boot disk on different partitions when plugged into a machine would prompt me with a boot menu?
[22:51] <W43372> iceroot, So a partitioned flash drive with a boot disk on different partitions when plugged into a machine would prompt me with a boot menu?
[22:51] <iceroot> W43372: at boot, yes
[22:51] <iceroot> W43372: when using grub
[22:51] <W43372> iceroot, grub?
[22:51] <iceroot> !grub | W43372
[22:53] <W43372> iceroot, so I'd only get the boot menu on a linux machine? Ideally what I wanted to do was set it up so when I work on peoples machines I'd have bootable tool kits on a flash drive instead of carrying around a book of CDs
[22:54] <kirk__> Did anyone answer my question about preventing screen from going black at the login screen?
[22:54] <iceroot> W43372: at boot there is no linux-system
[22:54] <iceroot> W43372: its a normal boot-manager has nothing to do with an installed linux-system
[22:55] <W43372> iceroot, so as long as the system can boot USB I shouldn't have an issue?
[22:55] <iceroot> W43372: correct
[22:56] <W43372> iceroot, and if the system won't boot USB I can just update the BIOS to a version that will, correct?
[22:56] <allowoverride> kirk__: no
[22:56] <iceroot> W43372: depending on the bios
[22:56] <allowoverride> kirk__: whats happening?
[22:57] <W43372> iceroot, whats that mean?
[22:57]  * ugly_duck gets kicked back to the login screen with 11.04 sometimes... Weird!
[22:57] <allowoverride> kirk__: i had that happen before as well
[22:57] <igraltist> hi
[22:57] <iceroot> W43372: that not every system can boot from usb even after a bios-update
[22:57] <tucemiux> what email client you guys recommend besides evolution?  I want a plain email client that doesnt try to organize my emails for me
[22:58] <ugly_duck> webmail
[22:58] <W43372> iceroot, why?
[22:58] <iceroot> W43372: ask the mainboard manufactor
[22:58] <Praxi> not all BIOS's are created equal :D
[22:58] <igraltist> today i use on grub the boot param single, than i can use the cursor to get a rootshell without asking any password
[22:58] <W43372> iceroot, ok, well how would I determine if a system is incapable of USB booting?
[22:59] <iceroot> W43372: ask the mainboard manufactor, google or the manual
[22:59] <ugly_duck> if you were updating the bios to boot from usb, would it not state, THIS FIRMWARE is to allow usb boot, blah blha blah
[22:59] <W43372> iceroot, is it a thing like boars made before <year> can't boot USB?
[22:59] <Praxi> not always ugly_duck but usually would be in the patchnotes
[23:00] <iceroot> W43372: yes. i think that is more related to ##hardware
[23:00] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[23:00] <ugly_duck> Praxi: yeah, well should be noted somewhere, if its not, then maybe its a good sign not to buy that hardware
[23:00] <ugly_duck> again
[23:01] <linuxman410> how can i install another os based on ubuntu 11.04 and it keeps trying to upgrade ubuntu
[23:01] <W43372> iceroot, alright then, thanks for all the info. I should be able to achieve the partitioned flash with a combination of gparted and startup disk creator, right?
[23:01] <linuxman410> i want to dual boot
[23:01] <balvinder25> hello all
[23:01] <GhostFreeman> I uninstalled all Nvidia drivers and I can't boot into X or GDM, someone help me fix this
[23:02] <balvinder25> im getting error messages when i chck my ntfs partition using gparted..
[23:02] <iceroot> GhostFreeman: remove the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:02] <iceroot> GhostFreeman: remove, not delete
[23:02] <balvinder25> Cluster accounting failed at 8382544 (0x7fe850): extra cluster in $Bitmap
[23:02] <GhostFreeman> Iceroot can I do that in recovery mode
[23:02] <Konata> Hello, I currently experience this issue with an acer aspire 5810TZ notebook: http://bit.ly/rj6s0a
[23:02] <iceroot> GhostFreeman: just press ctrl + alt + f1
[23:02] <balvinder25> Filesystem check failed! Totally 9184 cluster accounting mismatches.
[23:02] <balvinder25> ERROR: NTFS is inconsistent. Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE!
[23:02] <balvinder25> The usage of the /f parameter is very IMPORTANT! No modification was
[23:02] <balvinder25> and will be made to NTFS by this software until it gets repaired.
[23:02] <dr_willis> linuxman410:  you just boot the other os's cd..   and manually partion the disk i think.
[23:02] <Konata> I was wondering if there was any known fix for it or if the issue is solved in the latest release of Ubuntuu
[23:02] <GhostFreeman> Iceroot that does nothing
[23:03] <balvinder25> then i get this..
[23:03] <dr_willis> balvinder25:  you should do what it says.. use windows to 'scan/fix' the ntfs..
[23:03] <GhostFreeman> I can only get to a shell in recovery
[23:03] <balvinder25> but i dont have windows installed
[23:03] <GhostFreeman> I removed all nvidia drivers and nouveau
[23:03] <iceroot> balvinder25: why use ntfs then?
[23:03] <balvinder25> i only have ubuntu no windows.. no dual boot
[23:03] <dr_willis> balvinder25:  ms has rescue/recovery isos you an download/burn.
[23:03] <balvinder25> well i have alot of data already stored..
[23:04] <balvinder25> cnnot move it thats why..
[23:04] <balvinder25> any specific iso that can help
[23:04] <dr_willis> data worth keeping.. is worth backing up...
[23:04] <balvinder25> Yes sir i agree..
[23:04] <balvinder25> any specific iso that can help
[23:04] <dr_willis> ms has vista/win7 rescue/repair iso files you an get.
[23:05] <dr_willis> i dont know the url to them. ask in #windows or check the lifehacker web site.
[23:05] <dr_willis> tghats where i learned about them
[23:05] <balvinder25> hmm.. ok i'll try.. thank  dr willies..
[23:05] <dr_willis> or use a live cd and backup the ntfs files to a linux filesystem somewhere..
[23:06] <player1up> i am running ubuntu from a live cd and it works fine..i can see the HD on my laptop..but i cannot install Ubuntu on the HD..it just keeps hanging...any ideas?
[23:06] <Praxi> Konata: I have seen sort of similar issues to what you are describing.  At Lan parties, so games that if you adjusted the Gamma, your frame rates would dive.  default the gamma and it would be fine again.  Don't have anything useful to add on how to fix it though :(
[23:06] <Konata> Praxi: It's a laptop
[23:07] <Konata> Attempting to adjust the brightness via the applet or via the keyboard will cause the machien to completely hang
[23:07] <Praxi> player1up: Alienware laptop? Had teh same exact issue, had to use some alternate install CD
[23:07] <edwardthefma> who hear has installed ubuntu on a mac g3
[23:07] <player1up> Praxi: no..HP
[23:08] <exutux> hi
[23:08] <Praxi> player1up: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[23:08] <player1up> Praxi: it's weird..have tested the HD and it's fine..just cannot install Ubuntu onto it
[23:08] <Praxi> ya totally, mine did that too hehe.
[23:09] <Praxi> edwardthefma: I have a mac running ubuntu 11.04 sitting on the desk next to me, don't know what type of mac
[23:09] <csdserver> i want to completely wipe all my network configs and start over
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[23:09] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[23:10] <Praxi> edwardthefma: I know nothing about macs, on the back of this one the only thing I can see is 'imac'
[23:10] <GhostFreeman> Iceroot, thank you
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[23:10] <doritoDan> Is there a general Ubuntu-oriented discussion channel?
[23:10] <csdserver> #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[23:11] <doritoDan> Cool, thanks.
[23:11] <edwardthefma> i need help it says it cant find the right disc drive
[23:11] <edwardthefma> then it gives me a bunch of driver names
[23:12] <tucemiux> ive had it with evolution and it just made me lose an e-mail I wrote, anyone know of a simple email client that doesnt try to organize emails for you that way the email client feels like it ?
[23:13] <csdserver> have you tried Thunderbird?
[23:13] <dr_willis> edwardthefma:  this one?  http://support.apple.com/kb/SP133
[23:13] <edwardthefma> yes
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[23:14] <dr_willis> edwardthefma:  its using a PPC processor.. You need the Ubuntu PPC versions
[23:14] <dr_willis> the standard intel disks wont work.
[23:14] <edwardthefma> i allredy have that
[23:14] <Praxi> tucemiux: Second thunderbird, used it on windows for simple PoP testing.
[23:15] <dr_willis> and to be honest with you.. I found the PPC macs lacking in their ability to run Ubuntu. I sold my iMAC DV a few weeks back.
[23:16] <W43372> iceroot, alright then, thanks for all the info. I should be able to achieve the partitioned flash with a combination of gparted and startup disk creator, right?
[23:16] <meomic> hey, is it possible somehow to send mouse click(left click pos x: 300 y 500) event to a window which is not active - minimized? i see xdotool have mouse click but it cant send event to the coord i want - and i dont want my mouse to be moved like crazy
[23:17] <dr_willis> !info xautomation
[23:19] <meomic> ill check it out - thanks for the info - btw ive googled but did not found this one...
[23:19] <dr_willis> i just happened to see it mentioned at a blog site i was reading like 2 min ago.. :)
[23:19] <dr_willis> ive never used it
[23:19] <BigMao> Hi there, I'd like to convert a PDF file to a PDF file.  My reason for doing this is because my current PDF doesn't comply with a webpage, and I know that if I re-save the PDF using the commercial Adobe Acrobat, it works.  But I don't have the commercial Acrobat on my Ubuntu computer.  Can anyone help out? :)
[23:19] <pwnusmaximus> hi guys, my install of "remote desktop" seems to be missing some components
[23:19] <pwnusmaximus> is there an easy way to re-install it?
[23:20] <BigMao> For instance, are there any programs that compress or manipulate PDF files?
[23:20] <BigMao> If I just pass the PDF through that program with minimal modifications, it may fix the problem. :)
[23:21] <qin> BigMao: pdf2ps and ps2pdf
[23:21] <dr_willis> 'dosent comply with a webpage' is sort of a scary statement.. :)
[23:21] <W43372> iceroot, yes? no?
[23:22] <BlueMatt> anyone know why mountall would fail to daemonize after running, and just exit instead?
[23:22] <dr_willis> Unless its somehow testing the creator of the pdf..
[23:22] <BigMao> dr_willis, my apologies for being very imprecise, it is a manuscript submission system for a scientific journal.
[23:22] <Konata> pwnusmaximus, I'm guessing just remove it with apt-get remove and then try to reinstall it
[23:22] <BigMao> the webpage accepts my PDFs and converts them into a proof for the reviewers
[23:22] <pwnusmaximus> hi guys... when i launch "remote Desktop" i get this error: "failed to execute child process 'kmailservice' (no such file or directory)
[23:22] <pwnusmaximus> any hints on how to fix this?
[23:22] <Konata> pwnusmaximus, see above
[23:22] <pwnusmaximus> Konata: ill try that
[23:23] <dr_willis> !info kmailservice
[23:23] <pwnusmaximus> Konata: tttyl
[23:23] <dr_willis> !find kmailservice
[23:23] <pwnusmaximus> dr_willis: ok
[23:23] <Konata> pwnusmaximus, he wasn't talking to you, but talkt o you late
[23:23] <Konata> *later
[23:23] <dr_willis> that sounds like some kde service/applet that just checks the mail..  I dont see how that would keep the rest of the desktpp from loading
[23:24] <BigMao> when I tried pdf2ps and ps2pdf, I lost a lot of detail in the original PDF
[23:24] <BigMao> qin: is there some other way to try it?
[23:24] <BigMao> alternatively i could just go home and use the commercial acrobat but i'd prefer that a free software would have this capability .. :)
[23:25] <dr_willis> Its possible the site is checking that you DID use the commercial acrobat...
[23:25] <qin> BigMao: Thinking...
[23:25] <dr_willis> and thats all it will be happy with.
[23:26] <BigMao> dr_willis, that is possible, but the commercial acrobat is able to process these files, so i doubt they're using it since it gives them an error
[23:26] <pwnusmaximus> Konata: doesnt seem to be working... im going to try just making that directory in my user folder
[23:26] <Konata> what directory?
[23:26] <pwnusmaximus> the "kmailservice"
[23:26] <frostschutz> BigMao: try ps2pdf on the pdf without pdf2ps, if that's any better
[23:26] <Konata> pwnusmaximus, kmailservice isn't related to you
[23:26] <pwnusmaximus> it is
[23:26] <Konata> ..Oh?
[23:27] <frostschutz> BigMao: pdftk and pdfjam might also be worth a try
[23:27] <dr_willis> BigMao:  it may be their 'pdf to proof ' (whatever that means) is very picky on its input.
[23:27] <meomic> that xte is not what ive been lookin for, it also cant jus tsent event that mouse was clicked at 500 500 - i must move mouse and then just click... - i want to have my mouse free
[23:27] <koffeehaus> fedora channel is full of rude dorks - official
[23:27] <pwnusmaximus> im trying to get remote desktop working. but when i try to turn it on it get a "Failed to execute child process "kmailservice" (No such file or directory)"
[23:27] <pwnusmaximus> however kmail the app works..
[23:27] <qin> !ot > koffeehaus
[23:27] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  it could be the issue is not related to that error message..
[23:28] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  theres always the stand alone vnc servers you could try. tightvnc or vnc4server
[23:28] <pwnusmaximus> anything that will work with chicken of the vnc?
[23:28] <lauratika> hi
[23:28] <pwnusmaximus> im trying to access this computer from a mac
[23:29] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  vnc standard is a standard.. :) shouldent matter if the client/servers are all following the standard
[23:29] <Karma_Law> please can someone tell me why flash player not works fine for games (facebook, firefox) in ubuntu?
[23:29] <pwnusmaximus> ok :) ill try tightvnc
[23:29] <dr_willis> Karma_Law:  because adobe dosent really support linux very well.
[23:29] <Praxi> +1 for tightvnc
[23:29] <BigMao> frostschutz, thanks a lot for your help, i will try to use your suggestions and write them down for later if it works :)
[23:30] <dr_willis> Karma_Law:  ive had very few issues with facebook games in flash on Ubuntu. but i guess theres always quirks that can popup
[23:30] <Praxi> Karma_Law: what browser, maybe try chromium?
[23:30] <pwnusmaximus> dr_willis: one caveat. i want a gui. like the full desktop, not a terminal vnc
[23:30] <lauratika> doe any body knowe where i should look for cryptkeeper error log cause everytime i try to mount a folder it disapear from the notification area and cant unmount the folder only via terminal,, and i would like to see if i can see what is wrong.
[23:31] <Praxi> pwnusmaximus: just make your window full screen then?
[23:31] <Karma_Law> dr_willis, Praxi in debian squeeze i was try it and fine very well, but no in ubuntu :S
[23:31] <pwnusmaximus> Praxi: well here in the tightvnc listing it says "Note: This server does not support or need a display."
[23:31] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  vnc server/viewer runs a full desktop....
[23:32] <Phr3d13> does anyone know how i would port a milkdrop preset to openvp preset?
[23:32] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  most vnc servers/clients work that way..  :)
[23:32] <Praxi> dr_willis: the display thing is a carry over from original VNC when you had to specify what display you were connecting to right?
[23:32] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  the 'view the current desktop' is a specialized feature of the kde/gnome vnc built in server. You can have a dozen+ 'hidden' desktops that you vnc into.. none are visiable on the  machines actual monitor.
[23:33] <dr_willis> Praxi:  thats how vnc works.. the 'view local display' is a specilized way to use vnc.
[23:33] <clausen> is there a way to disable networking BEFORE boot, on the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[23:33] <clausen> (I don't want to disable it AFTER it might have been enabled automagically)
[23:33] <lauratika> i mean crash log
[23:33] <dr_willis> pwnusmaximus:  you can have a headless server running 100+ vnc sessions each with their own 'full' desktop.
[23:34] <pwnusmaximus> im not that technical.. i just want a "logmein" clone
[23:35] <Snooffy> clausen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[23:38] <hashitish> Just gonna hang right here, might learn sommit!
[23:38] <hashitish> if thats cool
[23:40] <clausen> Snooffy, I see netcfg/disable_dhcp=true
[23:40] <clausen> Snooffy, how do I find all netcfg options?
[23:40] <qin> inotify do not "see" sshfs mount, what else to use to have live watch?
[23:41] <Snooffy> clausen: I'm going through this http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt as well
[23:41] <clausen> Snooffy, I don'
[23:41] <clausen> don't thin it's a kernel option
[23:41] <clausen> basically, I'm asking userspace not to load wireless kernel modules
[23:42] <clausen> (the livecd userspace scripts look at the kernel command line for options)
[23:42] <hip2theehop> whats the question I may be able to help just connected so I missed it.
[23:42] <clausen> (presumebly, this netcfg command is ignored by the kernel)
[23:42] <Phr3d13> does anyone know how to port milkdrop presets to Banshee's OpenVP Visualizer?
[23:42] <clausen> hip2theehop, how do I tell the ubuntu livecd to not enable the wireless card at any point?
[23:43] <clausen> meta question: how do I find out all the commands the livecd understands?
[23:43] <wolter> is it build into the kernel that a laptop will only wakeup if the lid is opened?
[23:43] <hip2theehop> clausen what type of wireless card?
[23:44] <v3nd3tta``> sudo chown <myuser> <file> doesn't work for some files at my hdd, the user stays '1001', what to do?
[23:45] <clausen> hip2theehop, intel centrino?  (built into the motherboard, probably)
[23:45] <hip2theehop> clausen, is this a laptop or desktop?
[23:46] <italoxp> hip2theehop, Intel Cetrino is a platform
[23:46] <zykotick9> v3nd3tta``, usually it's "chown myuser:myuser file" if you are seeing 1001, then your system may not have a user with that UID.
[23:46] <italoxp> hip2theehop, a codename, like Sandbridge for the new i processors
[23:46] <hip2theehop> italoxp, i know this
[23:47] <italoxp> hip2theehop, sorry .-.
[23:47] <v3nd3tta``> zykotick9: did that already a few times (even in the directories with * and single filenames)
[23:47] <hip2theehop> italoxy, its ok
[23:47] <v3nd3tta``> and also in the top directories with -R (recursive) option etc
[23:47] <zykotick9> v3nd3tta``, "grep 1001 /etc/passwd" is there a user with 1001?
[23:48] <hip2theehop> clausen, they way I would do it little backwards would be to go into the live cd and let it run one time jump into terminal and lspci and find out the driver used.
[23:48] <hip2theehop> clausen, once done with that blacklist it in kernel options on reboot
[23:49] <v3nd3tta``> zykotick9: nope, no user id 1001 there, also I am user 1000 (which is the default single user i believe)
[23:49] <qin> v3nd3tta``: ls -l and lsattr on _the_ file
[23:50] <zykotick9> v3nd3tta``, are these files on an EXT filesystem?
[23:51] <intel_ix> Hello, I'm using linux mint, but it seems that I have an upstream issue. In simple terms, I installed using wubi, and after a power failure, the system no longer boots.
[23:51] <intel_ix> Is there a way to recover data using windows? It's ext4 iirc
[23:51] <vlt> intel_ix: This is Ubuntu support channel.
[23:51] <intel_ix> Yes but, mint is a modified version of ubuntu
[23:51] <hip2theehop> intel pm me
[23:52] <intel_ix> and the windows installer is ubuntu's
[23:52] <vlt> intel_ix: Then find a modified support channel.
[23:53] <intel_ix> Alright, then the issue is with ubuntu's wubi.
[23:53] <intel_ix> Not the OS
[23:53] <vlt> intel_ix: Power failure during wubi install?
[23:53] <v3nd3tta``> qin: ls -a returns my username, but lsattr returns '-----------------e-' on the file
[23:53] <clausen> hip2theehop, how do I find out the driver with lspci?
[23:53] <clausen> (it just gives the device name, not the driver)
[23:53] <intel_ix> no, while os was running
[23:54] <intel_ix> but I was asking how to fix that install
[23:54] <vlt> intel_ix: Do you see grub when booting?
[23:54] <qin> v3nd3tta``: Thats ok
[23:54] <intel_ix> yes but the linux kernel doesn't even start
[23:55] <v3nd3tta``> but in nautilus the user is still '1001' - could that be because my previous install had the same username and also other users and that file was in backup?
[23:55] <vlt> intel_ix: Do you get a grub error msg?
[23:55] <intel_ix> no
[23:55] <intel_ix> it just resets, like it would if overclocking failed
[23:56] <vlt> intel_ix: So what exactly happens?
[23:56] <intel_ix> grub, pick linux, restart
[23:56] <vlt> intel_ix: Are there other menu items in grub?
[23:56] <qin> v3nd3tta``: I do not know nautilus, maybe.
[23:56] <clausen> hip2theehop, how do you blacklist a driver?
[23:56] <ctv> hi to all
[23:57] <intel_ix> just recovery mode and boot to windows
[23:57] <OerHeks> intel_ix if wubi gives problems, i suggest re-install
[23:57] <intel_ix> Well, see
[23:57] <intel_ix> I just really want to know how to repair root.disk
[23:58] <vlt> intel_ix: What happens when choosing recovery mode? And what wit windows?
[23:58] <intel_ix> Windows boots fine
[23:58] <intel_ix> I'm using it
[23:58] <intel_ix> Recovery mode just restarts
[23:58] <vlt> intel_ix: Ok, then I'll no loonger help you.
[23:58] <vlt> intel_ix: kidding
[23:59] <vlt> intel_ix: Boot a live CD or USB stick please.
[23:59] <hip2theehop> clausen. one sec
[23:59] <intel_ix> Right well it's on this computer, so what should I do after that?
[23:59] <vlt> intel_ix: Then run grub-install again.
[23:59] <zykotick9> vlt, how would a livecd help a WUBI install?  Plus, intel_ix should really be getting support for there LinuxMint in a linuxmint channel, not here.
[23:59] <Troy^> for a 500gb drive how much of a partion should i set for ubuntu?