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juacom99Hi i got this 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter USB Headphones and i can heard sound on it but i can's use it microphone, i thinks is an alsa porblem can anyone please help me?00:09
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bobweaverhi there I have a question about kmenu I have used kmenu-edit gui to change the menu the way that I like it. I would now like to put that file in the default setting so when I back up my system the  menu will not change back to the defaukt one00:44
PiciStupid question: How do I click links in konsole?00:45
bobweaverwhere is the default kmenu kocated00:45
bobweaverI have tried alot of places00:46
bobweavercant seem to find it00:46
bobweaverI know how to replace files00:46
bobweaverbut where00:46
bobweaveris the ?00:46
PiciIf you didn't need to use sudo/kdesudo to run kmenu-edit, then its likely being stored in your user's /home00:46
bobweaverI know where that file is just where is the default one located00:47
PiciOh.00:47
bobweaverlocate menu | grep defaukt00:48
bobweaverlocate menu | grep default *00:48
bobweavernothing00:48
bobweaverMy base is ubuntu not kubuntu also but I am  running kdm and removed gdm and ubuntu-desktop00:49
Picibobweaver: I'd guess somewhere under: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/00:49
bobweaverthanks00:50
PiciThis is my first week with KDE, I'm a GNOME person normally, I'm just not too keen on the direction GNOME is going these days and trying out alternatives.00:50
bobweaverI am also looking at /etc/xdg00:50
bobweaveris this gnome ??00:50
bobweaverI am also looking at /etc/xdg/menu*00:51
bobweaverI am also looking at /etc/xdg/menus*00:51
bobweaverlol00:51
bobweaver I see this application-merged and look in it and there is wine00:52
bobweaverI put file in now and nothing00:52
netsurf3hey anyone got the new humblebundle?00:53
DaskreechSnooffy: You generally will not have multiple people logged into the same Xserver THey will get their own01:17
DaskreechPici: I think You hold alt01:18
Daskreechbobweaver: Probably /usr/share/kde01:18
SnooffyDaskreech: ok, thanks for the info01:18
DaskreechPici: What didn't you like about GNOME's direction?01:18
Daskreechbobweaver: Oh actually yes /etc/xdg would be a better place01:19
PiciDaskreech: I felt like I was losing control.01:19
Daskreech xdg is the cross (x) desktop guidelines01:19
DaskreechPici: In GNOME? Really? Nooooo01:19
Pici:P01:19
Daskreechnetsurf3: It's out today isn't it?01:20
DaskreechPici: :-D01:20
netsurf3Daskreech, out yesterday technically01:20
bobweaverDaskreech: thanks01:20
netsurf3annoyed me though that hammer fight was a rubbish quality port :(01:20
DaskreechPici: What did they take away from you?01:20
Daskreechnetsurf3: Be glad they are porting it. Congratulate for that before all else01:21
PiciDaskreech: Actually, it was the fact that no desktop environment was working at all when I installed 11.10, but my other reason is just as valid.01:21
netsurf3while what you are saying is true the fact that I paid for it and then found out i cant play it is a bit frustrating01:21
Daskreechnetsurf3: Oh not being able to play sucks :(01:22
netsurf3opensource stuff I can forgive for not working flawlessly I even expect it, but when you pay money for it you'd expect it to work or at least know to what degree it doesnt01:22
netsurf3Daskreech, yeah its some kind of mouse input bug, judders the mouse on a 100% mouse input game01:23
netsurf3ahh thought occoured why it was doing it01:23
netsurf3brb01:23
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Daskreechha ha01:24
DaskreechI like when people use FOSS :) always starts them thinking on how to fix stuff01:24
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netsurf3Daskreech, hmm thats a shame :( no dice01:28
Daskreechit has no logs?01:29
netsurf3apparently not01:29
netsurf3i cant find any01:29
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chaituHello All.Would I be able to install kubuntu by having iso on my external hard disk?thanks02:35
e_t_chaitu: Not really. There are ways to do something similar, but it's not as simple as just having the ISO image on your hard drive.02:37
chaituno sorry. I meant..can I hookup my usb hard disk and install kubuntu onto this system?02:38
chaitulike have my usb hard disk boot up kubuntu...02:38
Daskreechchaitu: Oh yes if your motherboard supports that02:39
chaituoh cool. can you please tell me how to find that out?02:40
chaituit gives me options to choose which order to boot. It has cd,notebook hard disk,usb and so on..02:41
e_t_chaitu: That sounds like your BIOS menu. You probably want to leave that alone for now, because a change there is somewhat permanent.02:43
e_t_chaitu: On my computer, I can press F12 during boot and get a one-time-only boot selector. Different makers have different keys though.02:44
chaituAll am trying to do is install the latest kubuntu and as my cd drive is out of order and I couldnt get the 2 gb usb stick to work, am seeing if having this iso image on my 1tb hard drive will help me installing02:44
e_t_No, it won't. Not unless you can get it burnt onto a CD or written to a flash drive.02:46
e_t_What about your 2GB usb stick didn't work? That sounds like the best bet for you.02:47
chaituI did follow the guide on ubuntu to make my 2 gb a installer. It does not work sadly..02:48
chaituguess will format that 2gb drive and try again02:48
chaitu2 gb is enough,right?thats all I have handy now02:48
e_t_chaitu: The ISO image is less than 70002:48
e_t_chaitu: The ISO image is less than 700MB, 2GB = 2000MB.02:49
chaituoh..02:49
e_t_sorry, I pressed Enter by mistake.02:49
chaitutrue.my bad02:49
e_t_What OS are you using right now and what program are you using to try to create the USB disk?02:50
chaituam on kubuntu now.http://bit.ly/6Sf2A is the method I used.02:52
chaituIncase you are busy to open that link, its on the ubuntu website02:52
e_t_OK. Give unetbootin a try (sudo apt-get install unetbootin) and run it with "kdesudo unetbootin". When usb-creator fails on me, that's what I turn to.02:54
chaituok let me do that.please give me a minute.thanks02:54
chaituumnn it gives me this http://pastebin.com/L66EaG2x02:56
e_t_What's the output of "uname -r -p" ?03:02
doublinc9hi, how do i edit grub so i can boot another OS first?03:26
Daskreech!grub03:32
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)03:32
DaskreechSecond link03:32
doublinc9for those wondering03:49
doublinc9 sudo apt-get install startupmanager03:49
Daskreech:)03:54
gigenieksHi guys04:07
Daskreechhi gigenieks04:14
gigenieksIn Quassel I can only chat #kubuntu channel04:15
gigeniekshow can I add other channels04:15
gigeniekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quassel04:15
gigenieksonly manual I found04:15
gigenieks:/04:15
maumhello04:16
maumI cannot hear the sound even though I put the command(alsa force-reload) into /etc/rc.local file.04:16
Linkmastergigenieks: click the 'join' button on the top and type in a channel, such as #kubuntu-offtopic, or click on the link I created to the -offtopic channel, or type /join <channel name> ie  '/join #kubuntu-offtopic04:18
gigenieksyes did that04:18
gigenieksI just was supicious about04:19
gigenieksNetwork: Kubuntu IRC (thought I would connect only to #kubuntu nothing more..)04:19
gigeniekssilly04:19
gigenieksAnybody knows how to setup and use Virtual Box?04:24
Daskreechgigenieks: where do you want to add them?04:27
Daskreech!virtualbox04:28
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox04:28
Daskreechmaum: you can hear no sound at all?04:28
gigenieksDaskreech: "add them" ?04:32
DaskreechYou said you wanted to add other channels04:33
DaskreechI didn't know if you meant a permanent add or just wanted to join them04:34
maumDaskreech, yes04:34
Daskreech!alsa04:34
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:34
maumif I put the command in the terminal -> sudo alsa force-reload , I can hear the sound. but I want the permanent way because if I reboot the system, the problem is still existed.04:36
gigenieksright now will work temporarly add04:37
gigenieksI would like to know this04:38
gigenieksI searched in K Package Kit04:38
gigenieks"virtual box"04:38
gigenieks9 results04:38
gigenieks1st, VirtualBox OSE04:38
gigenieksand 8 other is like needed or what?04:38
gigenieks2nd virtualbox-guest-additions04:39
gigenieksvirtuabox-ose "x86 virtualization solution - base binaries"04:39
gigenieksvirtualbox-ose-dbg04:39
gigenieksvirtualbox-ose-dkms04:39
gigenieksvirtualbox-ose-fuse04:39
gigenieks-virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms04:39
gigenieksvirtualbox-ose-guest-utils04:40
gigenieksvirtualbox-ose-guest-x1104:40
gigenieksI guess I just need "VirtualBox OSE" for now?04:40
gigenieksor that other stuff too?04:40
rwwyou just need virtualbox-ose04:41
rwwit'll pull in the other packages from that list that it wants04:42
gigenieksok04:44
gigenieksand --->04:44
gigenieksdo i need to close other applications while I install VB in order to avoid getting some errors / issues04:45
gigenieks?04:45
Linkmastergigenieks: this isn't windows :P You can have other applications running, it doesn't cause problems[I often run applications even while muon/apt-get is updating said applications, no worries on my end]04:47
gigenieksI have 750RAM used (of 1GB) and 230MB swap, wouldnt it take much longer if I didnt close apps04:50
gigenieksjust listening to awesome music :D04:50
Linkmastergigenieks: another 1gig user! I thought I was the only one left :P04:54
LinkmasterThough I put a 6gig swap, so I forgot what happens when I dont' close things out xD04:54
gigenieks6gb swap??04:55
gigenieksI put only 1gb04:55
gigenieksand everything is fine04:55
gigenieks:)04:55
gigenieksLinkmaster: this is my father's pc mine have only 768mb and not DDR2 just DDR04:56
gigenieks....04:56
gigenieksin that I will put Xubuntu04:56
LinkmasterXubuntu might be good, haha. Or an older version of Kubuntu04:56
gigenieksgoing install VB04:58
gigeniekssee later04:58
cyphahi05:07
cyphawhy can't I download themes?05:07
cyphasays network error05:07
gigenieksdid you asked that in kubuntuforums.net?05:17
gigenieksor searched in googlubuntu?05:17
gigenieksDont have any experience with themes in Kubuntu yet..05:17
maumI cannot hear the sound even though I put the command(alsa force-reload) into /etc/rc.local file.05:40
cyphai have a pretty specifc question05:42
cyphacan I make the same terminal window appear and disappear with a keyboard shortcut?05:42
cyphaeven if it loses focus05:42
e_t_cypha: right-click on the window's title bar, go down to Advanced, and select Window Shortcut. You'll be able to assign a shortcut to that window.06:03
cyphae_t, I mean permanent06:07
cyphaalso, where can I change the standard shortcut for next tab? I no longer want it to be ctrl+.06:07
e_t_System Settings > Shortcuts and Gestures > Standard Keyboard Shortcuts. (In Custom Shorcuts, you can create your own permanent shortcuts)06:09
cyphaoh, i see, it's a shortcut within rekonq itself06:11
cyphathat's why i couldn't find it06:11
cyphacool that the system settings shortcuts realized the keycombo was occupied (even in an app outside itself)06:12
rwwcypha: it appears kde-look.org is down right now, that would explain your theme network error.06:13
cyphaahh, cool, gracias :)06:13
cyphathere's no "Activate next tab" in the standard keyboard shortcuts, btw06:14
bigbrovarany idea if kubuntu 11.10 would come with kmail1 in the repos? or is this the wrong place to ask?07:17
cyphahow can I remove a shortcut I created for a window?07:31
cyphait doesn't remove07:31
redeyyezthis things kicking my ass tonight lol i just want to watch a movie and go to sleep, logitech z05 external usb speaker07:45
redeyyezNormally have to set it as the default output device for sound07:45
redeyyezcan't remember how ive done it in the past.07:45
redeyyezkubuntu natty07:45
redeyyezanyone? i need to change the default play back device to the external seakerws07:59
mabl@redeyyez: I do this via the system-settings dialog Multimedia->Phonon and change the order of the output devices08:02
mablIf that doesn't hal, try pavucontrol08:03
redeyyezfinally got the ability to do just that. Device appeared and everything, it was glorious!!! Then i realized boxee is still playing through the laptop08:06
redeyyezbest question now is how to restart the sound card w/o rebooting08:09
mablpovucontrol let's you reroute the sound of applications to different output devices08:12
redeyyezah that's nice08:13
redeyyezsearched packimanager can't find the tarball08:15
mabloubs, typo it's pavucontrol08:15
mablit's a gtk app though08:16
cyphahow in the world do I increase the general font size in here?08:17
redeyyezsad sad day rebooted like a windows server, all setup liike you say yet no lobitech usb sound08:32
cypharedeyyez, how can i adjust the default font for kubuntu?08:34
cyphai'm finding it difficult to read most thing08:34
cyphas08:34
cyphasizewise and dullness08:34
redeyyezcypha, i believe its sytem > System admin section  > font installer?08:36
redeyyezadujust your resolution?08:36
cyphathe resolution is the same as it was on gnome and on windows08:37
mabl@cypha Have a look into system settings -> Application Appearance -> Fonts08:38
mabl@redeyyez, sorry I have no other idea how to get it working08:39
redeyyezfixed itself arfter two reboots08:39
redeyyezgreat now, wish i could done all that without rebooting08:40
cyphamabl, thanks08:45
redeyyezmabl thanks08:46
mablyou're both welcome :)08:47
cyphamabl, any way to darken the black?08:47
mablcypha, you mean the colour of the fonts?08:48
cyphawell, i dunno, i just feel like everything looks a bit blurry08:49
cyphanot as crisp as it should be08:49
mablit's probably anti-aliasing08:50
mablin your font's config, there is a "Use anti-aliasing" setting08:50
mablyou can try to play with it a bit.08:51
dima_Hello everyone. Every time I try to connect remotely to my kde desktop, I get "Refused uninvited connection attempt from ..." no matter what options I set in krfb08:51
dima_Has anyone got it working?08:51
dima_I've set the "allow uninvited connections" and specified the password. However it still closes connection with the same error08:52
cyphahow do i make a particular application have a shortcut for minimizing?08:55
cyphamabl?08:58
mablhmm, you could do alt+f3 follwed by n09:02
mablyou might also be able to assign a key in System Settings -> shortcuts and gestures09:02
cyphamabl, in fact my ultimate goal was to have the window show/hide itself with the same shortcut (toggle)09:04
mablcypha, you can assign shortcuts under system settings - > shortcuts and g...->Global shortcuts -> KDE component: kwin09:05
Incarus6KDE 4.7 has been released: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.7/09:06
mablbut i'm not sure if it allows you to toggle09:06
cyphacool, i set a shortcut09:07
ArchangelSe7enawesome09:07
cyphathanks09:08
cyphabrb09:08
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Shirakawasunahmm09:53
Shirakawasunaif a package is currently in 'oneiric', does this mean it's truly slated to be part of 11.10? (my imaginary alternative is that it's in testing and has a good chance of being pushed back)09:53
Shirakawasuna?09:53
ShirakawasunaI'm wondering mostly about kdepim stuff - whether the jump to akonadi will occur w/ 11.1009:53
Shirakawasunamaybe I just answered my own question.. I could've sworn it was version 4.6 less than a month ago, now it's still 4.409:54
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silentshadowHello...11:03
soeehiho silentshadow11:03
silentshadowI'm having a bit of trouble and its doing my head in... X.x11:04
silentshadowCan someone help me with a few things...11:05
James147!help | silentshadow11:06
ubottusilentshadow: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:06
silentshadowOk, Well i just installed Kubuntu 11.04 and works fine. i just cant seem to get Java working at all .. i have gone through the tutorials and it fails after a few steps..11:07
James147silentshadow: where does it fail?11:08
silentshadowWell i put in 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts' then it hangs for a bit then fails with 5 errors :/11:09
silentshadowReading Package lists :0%....11:10
James147silentshadow: have you enabled the partner repos?11:10
silentshadowhow do i do that?11:11
James147!partner11:11
ubottuCanonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »11:11
silentshadowthat doesnt seem to work either ;/11:13
silentshadowIs there any easyer way to install Java? :S11:17
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silentshadowNow trying to use KPackageKit...11:22
silentshadowBah this isnt helping?!!?!?11:29
yofelsilentshadow: what error do you get when running that add-apt-repository command?11:30
yofelor why exactly do you _need_ sun-java11:30
silentshadowunknown command x.x11:30
yofeluh... what release are you on?11:30
silentshadow11.04 :/11:30
silentshadowfrom http://www.kubuntu.org/11:31
yofeldoesn't make sense then, did you copy & paste everything between the quotes?11:31
yofelfrom sudo to partner" ?11:31
jane-i cant boot. iam on grub rescue>  error: file not found . what to do now >11:31
yofeljane-: ouch, remember doing anything that might have lead to that?11:32
yofelsilentshadow: but in most cases openjdk and icedtea-plugin should work too11:33
yofelexcept if there's an app that esp. requires the oracle one11:33
silentshadowother than installing kubuntu ;s11:33
silentshadowUbuntu wouldnt install properly last time so i tried Kubuntu..and its not much better :911:34
silentshadow:(*11:34
yofelwell, what's the problem? (except java)11:34
yofelwe don't ship sun-java in the archive because we use openjdk usually11:35
James147and most of the time you wont notice11:35
James147the difference ^^11:36
silentshadowkpackagekit even freezes alot -.-"11:37
silentshadowi guess if i try reformatting.....again.. things "might" work...11:38
yofelsilentshadow: in konsole: "sudo apt-get install muon"11:38
yofelmaybe that works better than kpk11:38
silentshadowReading package lists... Error!11:40
silentshadowE: Read error - read (5: Input/output error)11:40
silentshadowE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.11:40
silentshadowthats the error that comes up EVERY time.. :/11:40
yofelI/O error o.O11:41
yofelwhat do you see at the end of the output when you run 'dmesg' (please don't paste)11:41
silentshadowo.O! What am i looking for other than 0's?11:43
jane-i cant boot. iam on grub rescue>  error: file not found . what to do now >11:43
yofelsilentshadow: ok, can you pastebin the last ~20 lines?11:45
yofel!paste11:45
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:45
silentshadowi could try :P11:45
silentshadow!paste11:47
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:47
silentshadowhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/653732/11:47
yofelsilentshadow: you've got issues with your hard disk, bad or badly connected cable maybe?11:51
silentshadowX.x its a laptop :(11:51
yofelplug the disk out and in again, maybe the pins aren't clean11:52
silentshadowhmm... if i can even get it open lol11:53
silentshadowbut il try then come back on here11:53
silentshadowif i remember how lol11:53
yofelshouldn't be more than a screw usually ^^11:53
silentshadowOh also would this problem possibly be the cause for windows 7 to corrupt and crash?11:54
yofelsure, if it can't read/write data from/to the disk any OS would stop working11:54
silentshadowhmmm ok. thanks, be back soon11:54
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BluesKajhiyas all12:06
afiefWhen installing kubuntu form a usb stick I get "configuring apt failed. installer crashed", is there any workaround for this?12:09
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silentshadowAlright. Im back.12:15
silentshadowshould i re-install Kubuntu again?12:16
yofelsilentshadow: first check dmesg again if you still get ATA  errors12:18
yofelneed to go, bbl12:19
afiefWhen installing kubuntu form a usb stick I get "configuring apt failed. installer crashed", is there any workaround for this?12:32
BluesKajafief, check the md5sum on the image /iso12:35
BluesKaj!md512:35
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows12:35
afiefBluesKaj: I did, md5 is perfect12:35
afiefalso, only seems to happen on specific machines12:36
BluesKajafief, hmm, it's always the apt error ?12:37
afiefBluesKaj: Yup. tried it three times12:37
BluesKajany cdroms on these machines ? or you might consider the alternate install12:38
afiefBluesKaj: they do have cdroms, but I don't have any CDs around12:39
AlexZionhi everyone, just a simple question ..., I'm a Kubuntu 11.04 user, we will have kde 4.7 for our system ? or we need to wait until Kubuntu 11.10 ?12:39
BluesKajand the bios is set to boot from the usb stick , afief ?12:40
BluesKajI have to ask12:40
afiefBluesKaj: nope, but I set boot from usb stick on the bootmenu(this way I don't have to go back and change it when I'm done installing)12:40
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BluesKajafief, which bootmenu ?12:43
mrubhello everyone, I'm so excited about kde 4.7, does anyone have estimates when the binary packages will come out? ;)12:44
soeemrub, today if there wont be any problem thats what yofel said12:45
afiefBluesKaj: something my bios got. instead of going to the BIOS setup I can go to this "boot menu" and chose a different boot device for this session12:45
BluesKajAlexZion, not sure about kde 4.7 for 11.04 , but you could check at www.kde.org12:45
James147BluesKaj: most computer have a key you can press at boot to let you pick which device to boot off bypassing the list in the bios12:45
afiefBluesKaj: most modern laptops/desktops have it12:46
AlexZionthanks BluesKaj I will ....12:46
James147^^ though some need it enabled in the bios first :)12:46
mrubsoee: thank you for the information12:46
soeeAlexia_Death, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging as yuo can see only few items missing for 11.0412:46
BluesKajJames147, how modern /12:46
BluesKaj?12:46
soeeAlexZion, up to you12:46
James147BluesKaj: not that modern12:47
James147BluesKaj: computer 5 or more years old will probally have it12:47
BluesKajdon't think I have it on this pc , 3yrs old \12:47
BluesKajso it lists the boot sequence ...but that's immaterial if you already have grub , because the shift key will bring it up12:49
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studentdoesn't bring it up on my pc....12:50
afiefBluesKaj: but I don't have grub on the laptop I'm trying to install on. It only has the pre-installed Windows7 on it12:50
AlexZionmhhhh, soee I think the only way would be to compile it ..., and I'm not so expert about it ...., so I cannot try it in a production machine ....12:50
afiefMy main machine is slugging along with 256MB ram12:51
Guest89038ihr habts doch keine ahnung12:51
soeeAlexZion, why do yuo think that >?12:51
student@Guest89038: nazzi?12:51
Pici!de | Guest8903812:51
ubottuGuest89038: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!12:51
Picistudent: Please stop.12:52
soeeAlexZion, just wait day or 2 and you wil hava 4.7 in backports12:52
soee*will12:52
student@pici: sry, but he was insulting12:52
studentdid send me pictures of him naked12:53
AlexZionreally , it's planned to be available !?! , good news , for what I read I thougth it was just for 11.10 ...., so I'll wait without problem  even weeks ..... ;)12:53
Picistudent: Excuse me? All he did was say one thing in german.12:53
student@Pici: he joined our channel days ago, just for trolling12:54
afiefAlexZion: it is for 11.10 but the awesome kubuntu guys do a backport of KDE current+1 for every version ;)12:54
afieffor those of us who can't risk upgrading the whole system right now12:55
whityjetzt hats dich student12:55
studentokay, i'm outta here, if you don't like the truth12:56
AlexZionperfect afief..., like always ...., thanks to every developer for the great job done on kubuntu ....12:56
silentshadowHello?12:57
afiefAlexZion: if you want to help them you can always try out the daily builds and look for imperfections12:57
afiefsilentshadow: hello12:57
silentshadowI have just reinstalled Kubuntu and also did all the updates while instaling the OS.12:58
silentshadowNow from step 1, How do i get java setup?12:58
bazhang!java | silentshadow12:58
ubottusilentshadow: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.12:58
bazhang!partner | silentshadow12:58
ubottusilentshadow: Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »12:58
afiefubottu: I love you12:59
ubottuafief: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:59
afiefawww12:59
silentshadowlol12:59
AlexZionafief: I cannot rigth now , due to missing space on hard disk ...., I'll change my laptop very sun hopefully ....., after that I would like to learnand contribute much more .....12:59
AlexZionops* very soon ....12:59
afiefAlexZion: Cool :D Good luck and most important: enjoy free software12:59
benedict__hi! how can i copy a directory to another server _with_ all symlinks?13:00
BluesKajsilentshadow, or you could install kubuntu-restricted-extras13:01
BluesKaj!kubuntu-restricted-extras13:02
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats13:02
Guest39284Hello, someone knows how to switch between 2 graphics "cards"? One is Nvidia Gforce and other is the intel-i3 graphics processor13:02
AlexZionGuest39284: for what I know , is not so easy , should be out there some "experimental package" for that ....., I didn't change my laptop yet because I don't find any interesting laptop without optimus technology13:04
silentshadowIt seems i can and have installed Java 6 runtime now.13:08
silentshadow:D13:08
silentshadowJust cant use it in firefox lol13:08
Guest39284AlexZion. Oks i'm searching for something to do it, and i found that the new kernells provide the possibility of switch between graphics cards by  using vga_switcheroo13:09
BluesKajsilentshadow, did you install the restricted-extras?13:10
silentshadowNope.13:11
AlexZionGuest39284: great but be carefull, I don't know if you will find already a stable system ....13:11
silentshadowDoing another update x.x13:13
Guest39284AlexZion: I'm reading about, and it seems to be unestable. In fact i think im going to be waiting to another solution (it has to come this year). Im only using normal applications, never games. So i can wait13:14
Guest39284AlexZion: Thanks for all!13:14
AlexZionyou are welcome ...., anyway Guest39284 while you are waiting for a solution , there is a way to switch off the nvidia card , to improve the barrery duration ...13:15
Guest39284AlexZion: No prob, because the one that is being used by the laptop is the intel graphics so is the best option to wait.13:17
silentshadowThis isnt working....13:25
ElTimoDoes anyone have any experience with Bumblebee?13:26
soeeanyone using YaRock ?13:27
BluesKajsilentshadow, the restricted extras provides the plugins for java, flash and other codecs etc necessary for your install to work with webmedia and multimedia ...that all i can tell you13:30
BluesKaj!anyone13:31
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.13:31
silentshadowthis is stupid...doesnt work.. il find something else...13:35
BluesKajhe's stupid13:39
BluesKajyou can lead a horse to water ....13:40
OerHeks.. but you can't make him eat it ?13:41
BluesKajdrink13:42
shane2peru1out of curiosity, why is it when I open firefox, it opens not full screen, but only half screen?13:50
sebastianosorry it probably has been asked a 1000 times, but when will the kde 4.7 packages be ready?14:13
AlexZionsebastiano: kde 4.7 is ready , but depend of what distro are you using ...to be available ..14:14
sebastianoAlexZion: what about 11.4?14:21
AlexZionit should be rady in few days I guess ....14:21
AlexZion*ready14:21
sebastianoAlexZion: ok cool tnx14:22
AlexZionyou're welcome...... ;)14:22
PaulW2Usebastiano: keep an eye on http://www.kubuntu.org/news. PPA details will also be announced there14:22
mfraz74What about Amarok 2.4.2?14:23
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AlexZionmfraz74: maybe you'll have much more info in #amarok channel about it14:26
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mfraz74AlexZion: The beta is out, but no one seems to have packaged it for Kubuntu 11.04 yet14:32
AlexZionno , for the 11.04 , you can get just 2.4.1, using the backport ppa....14:33
mfraz74I know about 2.4.1, but I have stuck with 2.4.0 as it has a bug and that has been fixed in 2.4.214:34
AlexZionmfraz74: I had a problem with streaming , but I fixed using 2.4.1 and changing the phonon backend with vlc backend as they suggest me on the channel14:35
LarsTHello14:36
LarsTI need help14:36
LarsT.14:36
LarsT.14:36
mfraz74AlexZion: it is the saving of ratings to files bug that is affecting me - even though saving of statistics to file is disabled it still does it14:36
LarsTno14:37
LarsTi need help14:37
mfraz74what with?14:38
LarsTi have ap roblem iwth14:38
LarsTunity14:38
LarsTt14:38
LarsTy14:38
paolinuxhi14:40
genii-aroundLarsT: You probably want the regular #ubuntu channel then, not here14:41
LarsTno i meant14:42
LarsTi have a problem with unity14:43
LarsTand it is not solveable14:43
LarsTso i wanted to change the environment14:43
genii-aroundLarsT: If you have installed kubuntu-desktop then you can choose from the login screen to use it instead.14:45
LarsTi do a clean reinstall14:45
LarsTbut first i have to check if kde is right for me14:45
LarsTmaybe i can explain my problem first14:45
BluesKajthat would help14:46
LarsTokay well14:48
LarsTthe biggest problem is14:48
paolinuxon my kubuntu 11.04 (kde 6.6.5) i mounted a nfs share. when this share is not more available (server shutdown/poweroff) , plasma-desktop freezes14:49
LarsTunity uses compiz. and compiz has desktop wall14:49
LarsTand the desktop wall thing has the problem that windows maximises where they are most14:49
LarsTt14:49
ikoniaLarsT: you've asked about this before and it's been explained to you before14:49
ikoniastop now14:49
paolinuxare there anyone with my same issue?14:50
ikoniapaolinux: you'll find that's quite common with NFS14:50
ikoniapaolinux: stale NFS managment is known to cause similar problems in many applications,14:51
LarsTikonia: yes i know but i want to explain the background14:51
ikoniaLarsT: we don't need to hear it14:51
ikoniaLarsT: there is a bug logged on it - you've explained it many times, enough. This is your only warning14:51
LarsTwell BluesKaj, and i can not deactivate desktop wall because unity crashed then, and so i want to change to kde14:52
* BluesKaj shrugs , sorry, no instant gratifiacation here LarsT14:55
paolinuxikonia: yes... but tihs issue affecting also plasma-desktop... and is not nice that when the nfs share is not available  your desktop freezes.14:57
ikoniaBluesKaj: sorry to interupt, long story, don't worry about it14:57
ikoniapaolinux: it's just a feature of how NFS works, it maybe worth logging a bug to see if plsma can handle it better though14:58
mr-richis there a way to tell kpackagekit to ignore a certain update?15:00
paolinuxikonia: hum... yes mybee a good idea to logging a bug15:01
mfraz74Why does kpackage kit keep asking for my password even though I have set it to remember me?15:05
ubuntu____can anyone help me??15:15
ubuntu____please..please..please...15:15
ubuntu____http://askubuntu.com/questions/54536/why-doesnt-grub-detect-my-installation15:15
ubuntu____my GRUB doesn't detect my ubuntu partition...15:15
ubuntu____only memtest+ appear..15:16
ubuntu____I don't have windows partition..15:16
ubuntu____only ubuntu partition in it..15:16
ubuntu____anyone??15:17
ghettoblasterwhat did you use to create partitions?15:23
ubuntu____nust normal installation using live cd15:24
ghettoblasterhave you tried "sudo update-grub"?15:24
ubuntu____now i'm using live cd to access to the internet15:24
ubuntu____yup.. soo many times..15:25
ubuntu____only memtest appear..15:26
ubuntu____ghettoblaster :not my ubuntu installation...15:26
ghettoblasterwhy did you create an extended partition for swap ?15:27
ubuntu____i dont know.. i dont know how this happen15:29
ghettoblasterhmm, im not that expert but what about a fresh, clean install with "use whole disk" in install dialog?15:31
ubuntu____yeah, i think i use that when i installing ubuntu15:32
ghettoblasterwhat kind of computer is it?15:33
ubuntu____ghettoblaster: laptop brand HP Compaq..15:34
ghettoblasterversion?15:35
ubuntu____version of the laptop?15:37
ubuntu____compaq presario cq4015:37
ghettoblasteryes like 615 or such15:37
ubuntu____ghettoblaster: before this i had reinstalled my grub cause my grub menu is missing...15:41
ghettoblasterif you dont have any other OS installed ubuntu shows no menu, i think15:42
ghettoblastershould work fine: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp-compaq+presario+cq4015:43
ghettoblasterdid GRUB work before you reinstalled it?15:46
ubuntu____sometimes does sometime not but it automatically go to the login screen..15:47
ghettoblasteri'm not very experienced in Compaq Laptops, maybe try to remove sdb reinstall ubuntu and install sdb again?15:50
ghettoblasterthis laptop should work, i don't know linux to sometimes boot sometimes not, 0 or 1, should work always in standard configuration.15:54
ubuntu____the sdb is my removable drives it not related to the partition..15:55
ubuntu____yeah, before thi i had install ubuntu lucid and natty, it seem okay..15:56
ubuntu____but after i install kubuntu and use entire partition, this happen..15:56
ghettoblasteryou could try to install and partition manually, cause you can create up to four primary partitions on one harddisk.15:59
ghettoblasteri don't see any sense to create an extended partition...16:00
James147ubuntu____: how did you reinstall grub?16:01
ubuntu____i using some command i found in internet..16:05
James147ubuntu____: can you paste the command here16:05
ubuntu____Jame147: you want me to paste it from the early stage or just reinstall command?16:09
James147ubuntu____: if you followed sevrail steps then pastebin them, but its find to paste one line here16:10
James147!paste16:10
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:10
ubuntu____James147:http://paste.ubuntu.com/653878/16:16
James147ubuntu____: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB216:19
karmoKate 3.6.2 using KDE 4.6.2 doesn't save sessions. It throws error into terminal when i'm trying to save a session with some random name: QFile::remove: Empty or null file name16:23
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administrator bvcbv16:35
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rapidsphi16:45
rapidspanybody know when will be 4.7 at backports?16:47
OerHekssoon, rapidsp16:49
rapidsp)16:49
BajKas long as "soon" means before Friday 17 o'clock :D but how was that saying? What's good needs some time (or so :D)16:57
yofelBajK: SOON™17:03
yofeldon't worry, I'm not talking about "Debian Soon™" ;)17:03
Peace-heya17:05
BajK:D17:05
BajKI just know the KDE definition of release schedule :D normally "releases on x" means "y 1:58" (which is "x 23:58 UTC") :D17:05
BajKyofel: it's just, it would be neat to actually have 4.7 running when going to the relase party *grin*17:06
James147arch17:06
yofelthe packages are backported, but need some fixing17:07
James147dam mouse17:07
* Peace- downloading kde 4.7 an installing on alpha217:07
cherToday I have no luck googling... I want to setup my (headless) kubuntu box to connect to a WLAN during booting. All I can find is the "normal" setup procedures for connections of a specific user. Can someone point me to search keywords or give me URLs where I can continue my search?17:15
cherAh hold on I think I got it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessPCMCIATroubleshooting?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FWiFiTroubleshooting looks good.17:16
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robbyv17:52
fillipomůže mi někdo vysvětlit, k čemu je tento IRC klient?:-)17:53
PasNoxhello17:53
PasNoxdoes kde 4.7 is being packaged for maverick ?17:53
fillipoczech?17:54
robbyhi17:55
genii-around!cz | fillipo17:58
ubottufillipo: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.17:58
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DaskreechPasNox: I don't think so18:02
yofelPasNox: no, maverick won't get 4.7, only natty and oneiric18:09
DaskreechPasNox: At least not from the core Kubuntu team18:10
yofelright18:11
ashwinhttp://paste.kde.org/102913/ Which driver do i need to install for dialup commection18:16
KubuntuUser@yofel When should we expect KDE 4.7.0 SC FInal packages in backports ppa?18:22
yofelno ETA, since ~1 minute ago the Depencies seem right, now's testing time18:23
KubuntuUserthanks18:23
KubuntuUserSuse seems to have got thier packages a few hours back. Keep up the good work!18:24
PasNoxDaskreech, yofel: even in the unsupported update ??18:26
ashwin http://paste.kde.org/102913/ Which driver do i need to install for dialup commection18:26
yofelPasNox: natty will get PPA backports from us, maverick not - feel free to get someone to try it18:26
DaskreechPasNox: even that :) If someone would like to do it there is no objection to having them18:27
PasNoxdamn with this naming i don't know which one i'm running18:27
DaskreechBut there is no plans from the core team18:27
KubuntuUserAnyways no one you likes bleeding edge is likely to be still on maverick!18:27
DaskreechPasNox: lsb_release -a18:27
PasNoxhow can i for sure know the kubuntu version i'm running on ?18:27
PasNoxthanks18:27
PasNoxi did a uname -a ;)18:27
KubuntuUsertye in konsole18:27
KubuntuUseruname -a18:27
DaskreechKubuntuUser: it's lsb_release -a in Ubuntu land18:28
PasNoxok, i'm running natty ;)18:28
DaskreechPasNox: Welcome :)18:28
PasNoxso i will get it in ppa / backport, right ?18:28
DaskreechPasNox: yes18:28
PasNoxgreat18:28
PasNoxany target time ?18:28
PasNoxwhat mean ETA ?18:28
DaskreechYou should be able to get somethign to play with by today but that will not be pushed18:28
DaskreechPasNox: Estimated Time of Arrival (ETA)18:29
PasNoxok, i can live with a +1 day for the packages ;)18:29
OerHeksashwin, 05:00.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems 56k WinModem  ?18:29
DaskreechPasNox: in maybe a week then it might be pushed18:29
PasNoxoh so long :( thanks.18:29
ashwinOerHeks:yes18:30
KubuntuUser@Yofel, Is packaging on Kubuntu done completely manually, i.e no build service automation?18:30
PasNoxdoes it will have kmail2 and kde-telepathy TP ?18:30
yofelKubuntuUser: sure we have package builders on launchpad, but creating the packages is handwork18:30
yofelalthough I need to try to script the backporting... this is way to much work for ~70 packages18:30
KubuntuUserok18:31
yofelKubuntuUser: feel free to follow us in #kubuntu-devel if you want details :P18:31
PasNoxyofel: any info on kmail2 / kde-telepathy TP ?18:31
ashwinOerHeks:Do you know which driver?18:32
yofelkmail2 will probably end up in the experimental PPA again for now, due to lack of testing18:32
yofelI'm not involved in the telepathy stuff though18:32
DaskreechPasNox: You understand the difference in being pushed or not? :)18:32
OerHeksashwin, nope, sorry, can't find that modem18:32
DaskreechKubuntuUser: Well since it's on a computer obviously some of it isn't done manually but particularly for KDE it's changed a lot over the last year so a lot is done by hand just to make sure it's all correct but it get more automated everytime18:34
PasNoxyofel: damn, so longtime i'm waiting for kmail2 and each time reproted for later time :D18:34
mr-richis there a way to tell kpackagekit to ignore a certain update?18:35
PasNoxDaskreech: i don't understadn why u tell me that ?18:35
DaskreechPasNox: A pushed package will turn up in your automated updates. Most people will install it then without thinking about it18:35
DaskreechPasNox: It can be available but not pushed in which case you have to ask for it. That will happen today. So if you want you can get it today. Might not be as tested but you got it!18:36
antiheroHey, what's the main package to install to get kde on ubuntu? the package "kde-full"18:36
antiherois borked on oneiric18:36
PasNoxDaskreech: ah oki, thank you, so what i do to get it ? i think kpackagekit will not see it ? maybe a apt-get dist-upgrade ?18:37
PasNox( preceded by a apt-get update )18:37
DaskreechPasNox: if you have the experimental repo then an apt-get dist-upgrade would work :)18:38
antiheroArgh, latest dist-upgrade completely killed my kde desktop18:38
antiheroAs in removed most of the packages18:38
PasNoxDaskreech: ok, thanks :)18:38
Daskreechantihero: yay packaging bugs :)18:38
PasNoxwe all are humands18:39
PasNox:)18:39
PasNoxhumans*18:39
antiheroDaskreech: :( Which packages should I install to get my KDE back :)18:39
PasNoxkubuntu-desktop18:39
PasNox?18:39
antiheroPasNox: Lots of broken packages18:39
PasNox?18:40
Daskreechantihero: kubuntu-desktop18:40
Daskreechif that doesn't work remove kdelibs518:40
antiheroI'm on oneiric >.<18:40
Daskreechthen run autoremove18:40
Daskreechantihero: Ah then ask in #ubuntu+118:41
PasNoxhey btw18:41
Daskreechbtw isn't here now would you like to leave a message?18:41
PasNoxi have an update since many months that don't want to install on upgrade / dist-upgrade18:41
PasNoxhm yes :D18:42
PasNoxhere is the log: http://paste.kde.org/10293718:42
PasNoxi's impossible to upgrade this package since month and i don't knwo why ??18:42
mauri_where is stored the desktop image? Where i can find it in the distribution18:42
Daskreechmauri_: Do you mean the ISO for the Kubuntu Desktop CD or the wallpaper on the desktop?18:43
PasNoxany idea for this fucking package ?18:44
PiciPasNox: Mind your language here please.18:44
PasNoxPici: excuse me ;)18:45
mauri_Daskreech: the second one. The image i can change every time i want18:45
Daskreech!language18:45
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:45
Daskreechmauri_: You want to change it? or just find the one that's there? The one there is in the shared wallpapers in /usr/local/share18:45
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PasNoxwallpaers should be in /usr/share/wallpapers ?18:46
Daskreechthat's it :)18:47
mauri_Daskreech: under usr/local/share there is no wallpapers18:47
yofelmauri_: notice the local18:48
Daskreechmauri_: Sorry18:48
Daskreechno local18:49
mauri_Daskreech: thank a lot. Now the real question i have18:50
Daskreechlol18:50
mauri_Daskreech: kde-default.png is disappears and I liked to much it and im not able to find in the net. May you help me to find18:51
PasNoxjust download the iso where u see it the first time, and extract it from the iso :)18:51
mauri_PasNox: uhmmm.. So difficult :-(18:54
PasNoxno18:54
PasNoxiso can be mounted as loop18:55
PasNoxdevice18:55
Daskreechmauri_: that is the easiest way to do it or find someone with that release18:55
DaskreechYou can make the ISO mount just like CDrom18:55
mauri_Daskreech: okok that a lot to all18:55
DaskreechI have spoken with someone about making the old wallpapers and the community wallpapers as packages for future releases but never got a lot of people interested in it18:55
DaskreechI probably have them all somewhere I collect them as I go on18:56
mauri_Daskreech: it has desappears after an apt-get update/upgrate. Seems that it was linked to Horos/contents/images/1920x1200.png18:57
mauri_Daskreech: but i dont know that horos is18:57
DaskreechHoros?18:57
mauri_Daskreech: yes18:57
mauri_Daskreech: the red link is :Horos/contents/images/1920x1200.png18:58
DaskreechOh hmm18:58
Daskreech Maybe goolge for horos wallpaper?18:58
mauri_Daskreech: im doing it18:58
ghettoblasterits the default wallpaper18:59
mauri_ghettoblaster: yes i know but it has been removed during ad update..... I dont know why. I did nothing19:01
mauri_ghettoblaster: now seem hard to find19:02
ghettoblasterlook here /usr/share/wallpapers/Horos/contents/images/1920x1200.png19:03
ghettoblastersometimes my printer disappears after cups updates, i think kpackagekit chooses use package maintainers config file, without asking the user  ;)19:06
mauri_ghettoblaster: thnks but Horos directory is missing19:08
iokyHi, All I just notice a Problem with KDE 4.6.3, or maybe some other version too, When I remove the Noticification Area Wedget, and Transfer something Big , No Transfer Status is show, It there another way to have a Pop up Windows Back? like the "usual"19:15
soeeyofel, how the tests go ?19:15
ghettoblastermauri_ : sorry then i got no idea :/19:16
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yofelsoee: in progress19:17
soeeyofel, sorry for asking so often but is there any chance to see it today in ppa?19:17
yofelchances yes, but there's still work left, so not sure19:19
josh__Hi ! How do I determine whether a particular app (example Firefox) that I have installed is 32 Bit or 64 Bit ? I'm running 11.04 64 Bit though.19:36
Picijosh__: Unless you've done something fancy and complicated, its a 64bit app.19:37
genii-aroundjosh__: file /path/filename19:39
josh__Pici: Okay ! But is there a command that I can use in a terminal ? Like if I want to check whether I'm running 32 Bit app on a 64 Bit OS.19:39
Picijosh__: file /path/to/executable should tell if you if its a 64 or 32 bit binary.19:40
josh__Pici: That doesn't seem to work. I get this "usr/lib/firefox-5.0/firefox.sh: POSIX shell script text executable" if I type 'file /usr/lib/firefox-5.0/firefox.sh'19:43
Picijosh__: Thats because /usr/lib/firefox-5.0/firefox.sh is a script that calls firefox-bin19:43
josh__Pici: Okay ! How do I check for Firefox ? What is the path ?19:44
yofeljosh__: file /usr/lib/firefox-5.0/firefox-bin19:45
josh__yofel: Thanks a million ! I got it, I'm running 64 Bit FF !19:46
josh__Pici: Thanks ! I got my answer !19:46
LinkmasterI lost sound for everything except for amarok, what should I/can I do to get it back?Any way to restart something, or is the best way to log out and log back in?19:47
Linkmasternevermind, I think amarok was hogging it or something19:49
cyphahow can I create a shortcut that toggles a window to hide/show?19:50
cyphapermamently19:50
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cyphahow can I get visual bells?20:29
cyphainstead of ding sounds, for example when backspacing with no more characters behind the cursor20:29
dhuvhello all, I was wondering when KDE 4.7 packages will be available for 11.0420:30
yofelyes, Soon™20:31
dhuvyofel: thanks, I figured tomorrow or so20:31
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vbgunzim itching to try 4.7 final. every release is getting nicer and nicer.21:00
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soee:)21:03
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FanfareHi @ all! Q: my notebook freezes when LAN-Cable is not connected, otherwise it works well. Freeze appears also when machine is up and LAN-cable gets disconnected... My Guess is wlan driver. Any way to check / confirm?21:04
FanfareI: it's an Atheros wlan adapter...21:08
OerHeksdisabling the lancable and freeze is not related to the wlan driver, i guess.21:09
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FanfareOerHeks: any other possible reasons?21:16
FanfareI: removed wlan modules and still freezes, so OerHeks you are right... sadly no messages in syslog...21:18
soeeyofel, some problems with packages?21:55
FanfareQ: how to debug a kernel freeze? (with no messages in syslog) Is there a debug kernel?21:56
yofelnetwork manager applet needs fixing, just hand out in -devel and read the backlog21:56
yofelFanfare: there is I think, but you'll have to ask in #ubuntu-kernel how to use that21:57
Fanfareyofel: thx21:57
LinkmasterGraphics card:  "ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics"  should I put Natty or Lucid on it?22:00
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: you're good with computers, I'm helping a friend get to Linux, and I want her transition to be fairly painless22:02
SIR_Tacoalrighty then22:03
LinkmasterSo...Lucid or Natty?22:03
SIR_Tacohaven't heard any complaints about Natty22:04
SIR_Tacoand it is the LTS22:04
LinkmasterAlright, we'll try Natty. I'll also do soem researching online, just to make sure22:05
vbgunzdoes anybody know how to get rid of the monochomatic system tray and use colorful icons instead?22:06
SIR_Tacothere's a problem that a limited number people seem to run into with encrypting the home directory.... so you might want to think about that22:06
LinkmasterI don't think she'll encrypt her drive, she's the only one who uses it22:07
SIR_Tacovbgunz: the icons are in: /usr/share/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons   ... not sure if there are alternatives or not, but you could always make your own or at least replace them there22:08
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: Ok, well it'22:09
vbgunzI wish there were an easier way. a switch would have been nice22:09
SIR_Tacoit's an option when installing, that's why I brought it up, but if she's the only one using the system I wouldn't worry about it so much22:09
LinkmasterI'm not either, though the fact that the driver was used in 8.04-9.04 seems to worry me slightly, would the opensource driver work for it well on the newer kernel?22:10
SIR_Tacovbgunz: I believe the idea is that a new "plasma theme" should change that... but that's a new-ish idea and most (all?) don't do it22:12
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: we talking video drivers?22:13
LinkmasterYeah, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics22:13
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: you should be fine with 11.0422:14
vbgunzSIR_Taco: I just think (scratch that, I know) 10 monochromatic icons all similiar to one another in color make it really hard to just to go my sys tray and launch something I need *because* I always have to pause upon pause to get it right... this sucks. I was hoping this would be easier22:14
SIR_Tacothe areas you run into driver problems (like video especially) is when the kernel and/or X window  system changes22:15
SIR_Tacovbgunz: my understanding of the system was that it's monochrome while idle... then colour while active... which works fine for some, but not all of the items in the tray, I agree22:16
rich06708anyone know what is the highest cpu of intel or amd this kubuntu 11.04 supports22:21
yofeluh, there's shouldn't be an intel/amd x86/x86_64 cpu that the kernel doesn't support22:21
SIR_Tacohaha I guess he's welcome22:24
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mr-richany help getting my Logitech C310 mic working on 11.04?22:40
SIR_Tacomr-rich: have you tried http://forums.quickcamteam.net/ ?22:45
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mr-richSIR_Taco: can't find anything there ...22:49
SIR_Tacomr-rich: ok.... but what's the problem exactly? you have video but no audio with your webcam?22:52
mr-richSIR_Taco: yes ... no audio22:55
mr-richI get video, no audio ...22:56
SIR_Tacomr-rich: and it's not muted under alsa-mixer via konsole?23:02
mr-richSIR_Taco: I'll check ...23:02
LinkmasterIs the 11.04 from kubuntu.org kernel 2.6.38?23:03
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: when updated it should be yes23:04
LinkmasterWell, mine is currently. I'm talking about just installation though. I'm going to give my friend all the things she needs on the off-chance her card isn't supported[she can't get a wired connection]23:04
LinkmasterIncluding a driver from here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download/stable/23:05
LinkmasterAh, it should be good, thanks anyways23:05
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: which wireless card ?23:06
LinkmasterAtheros AR5B9323:06
LinkmasterThis documentation is what I'm following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1286503&highlight=Atheros+AR5B9323:06
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: you should be fine without the extra driver.... older Atheros cards are a pain in the butt... been there done that23:07
LinkmasterYou sure? Because if it bombs, theres very little way for me to contact her, other then through her phone23:07
SIR_Tacobetter safe than sorry then.... might want to get the mad-wifi builds then too, just in case23:08
mr-richSIR_Taco: Ok, raised the volume on 2 mic settings in alsamixer ... stil no sound ...23:08
SIR_Tacomr-rich: that's the only mic in the list?23:09
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: whats the mad-wifi builds?23:09
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: it's for older Atheros cards... I had one for a long time and the new drivers wont work right... but if she's purchased it in the last couple years than everything should be fine23:10
LinkmasterOkay, thats good to know. I'll just use the driver from the first forum post as my usage, on the off chance things go screwy23:11
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: chances are she doesn't have an old card like I had.... so the new drivers should just work23:12
mr-richSIR_Taco:  there are 223:12
SIR_Tacomr-rich: and you turned both up?23:12
SIR_Tacomr-rich: how about under System Settings -> Multimedia -> Phonon -> Audio Recording?23:14
mr-richSIR_Taco: yes23:14
SIR_TacoIs your logitech device at the top?23:15
mr-richSIR_Taco: it was ...23:19
mr-richi put it there ...23:19
mr-richnow it isn't ...23:19
mr-richSIR_Taco: I suppose I need to run control panel root ...23:19
SIR_Tacoyou can try that, but you shouldn't have too23:21
mr-richSIR_Taco: I moved it up again amd it keeps putting it back in third and the test button is grayed ...23:21
mr-richSIR_Taco: it won't stay at the top ...23:23
SIR_Tacook23:24
SIR_Tacomr-rich: how about this: http://www.blog.highub.com/linux/make-logitech-usb-microphone-work-on-ubuntu/    ?23:27
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: let me know how it goes with her computer23:29
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: I shall23:30
SIR_Tacothanks23:30
kubroany news re: 4.7 upgrade availability23:31
SIR_Tacokubro: I'm running it right now23:36
jmichaelxSIR_Taco: in oneiric, or natty?23:36
SIR_Tacoonerirc23:37
kubrosorry,,natty23:37
SIR_Tacoit shold be more-or-less complete for either though23:40
kubrojust haven't seen anything on kubuntu.org,,,getting ancey,,,23:41
BajKand I also havent got it over apt-get upgrade^^23:41
BajKbut well, I'll go to bed and hope when I wake up, it'll be there all nice and shiny :D23:41
BajKshiny shiny bling bling :)23:42
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: she downloaded the 11.04 .iso, and it spat out a 172MB .iso. What happened?23:42
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: the download got corrupted... happend to me a couple of times... try to d/l again23:42
SIR_Taco4.7 *might* be in the kubuntu  beta PPA? not sure about that though23:43
kubrok, thanks,,,guess I'll be patient,,argh23:43
SIR_Tacothey might backport it... but judging by the change in packages that KDE did, I'm doubtful23:44
kubroreally looking forward to it, based on what I've read.23:44
SIR_Tacokubro: it's definitely solid so far23:45
kubroexcellent! Good to know! Thanks! <bit jealous> ;)23:45
SIR_Tacohaha23:45
billytwowillyany word on where I can get kde 4.7 packages? I figured it would be on the website but I don't see it.23:52
SIR_Tacobillytwowilly: likely under kubuntu beta repo23:53
Dragnslcrbillytwowilly- the 11.04 packages may not be ready yet. Sometimes it takes a day or two23:54
SIR_Tacomr-rich: work?23:59

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