[00:09] <juacom99> Hi i got this 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter USB Headphones and i can heard sound on it but i can's use it microphone, i thinks is an alsa porblem can anyone please help me?
[00:44] <bobweaver> hi there I have a question about kmenu I have used kmenu-edit gui to change the menu the way that I like it. I would now like to put that file in the default setting so when I back up my system the  menu will not change back to the defaukt one
[00:45] <Pici> Stupid question: How do I click links in konsole?
[00:45] <bobweaver> where is the default kmenu kocated
[00:46] <bobweaver> I have tried alot of places
[00:46] <bobweaver> cant seem to find it
[00:46] <bobweaver> I know how to replace files
[00:46] <bobweaver> but where
[00:46] <bobweaver> is the ?
[00:46] <Pici> If you didn't need to use sudo/kdesudo to run kmenu-edit, then its likely being stored in your user's /home
[00:47] <bobweaver> I know where that file is just where is the default one located
[00:47] <Pici> Oh.
[00:48] <bobweaver> locate menu | grep defaukt
[00:48] <bobweaver> locate menu | grep default *
[00:48] <bobweaver> nothing
[00:49] <bobweaver> My base is ubuntu not kubuntu also but I am  running kdm and removed gdm and ubuntu-desktop
[00:49] <Pici> bobweaver: I'd guess somewhere under: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/
[00:50] <bobweaver> thanks
[00:50] <Pici> This is my first week with KDE, I'm a GNOME person normally, I'm just not too keen on the direction GNOME is going these days and trying out alternatives.
[00:50] <bobweaver> I am also looking at /etc/xdg
[00:50] <bobweaver> is this gnome ??
[00:51] <bobweaver> I am also looking at /etc/xdg/menu*
[00:51] <bobweaver> I am also looking at /etc/xdg/menus*
[00:51] <bobweaver> lol
[00:52] <bobweaver>  I see this application-merged and look in it and there is wine
[00:52] <bobweaver> I put file in now and nothing
[00:53] <netsurf3> hey anyone got the new humblebundle?
[01:17] <Daskreech> Snooffy: You generally will not have multiple people logged into the same Xserver THey will get their own
[01:18] <Daskreech> Pici: I think You hold alt
[01:18] <Daskreech> bobweaver: Probably /usr/share/kde
[01:18] <Snooffy> Daskreech: ok, thanks for the info
[01:18] <Daskreech> Pici: What didn't you like about GNOME's direction?
[01:19] <Daskreech> bobweaver: Oh actually yes /etc/xdg would be a better place
[01:19] <Pici> Daskreech: I felt like I was losing control.
[01:19] <Daskreech>  xdg is the cross (x) desktop guidelines
[01:19] <Daskreech> Pici: In GNOME? Really? Nooooo
[01:19] <Pici> :P
[01:20] <Daskreech> netsurf3: It's out today isn't it?
[01:20] <Daskreech> Pici: :-D
[01:20] <netsurf3> Daskreech, out yesterday technically
[01:20] <bobweaver> Daskreech: thanks
[01:20] <netsurf3> annoyed me though that hammer fight was a rubbish quality port :(
[01:20] <Daskreech> Pici: What did they take away from you?
[01:21] <Daskreech> netsurf3: Be glad they are porting it. Congratulate for that before all else
[01:21] <Pici> Daskreech: Actually, it was the fact that no desktop environment was working at all when I installed 11.10, but my other reason is just as valid.
[01:21] <netsurf3> while what you are saying is true the fact that I paid for it and then found out i cant play it is a bit frustrating
[01:22] <Daskreech> netsurf3: Oh not being able to play sucks :(
[01:22] <netsurf3> opensource stuff I can forgive for not working flawlessly I even expect it, but when you pay money for it you'd expect it to work or at least know to what degree it doesnt
[01:23] <netsurf3> Daskreech, yeah its some kind of mouse input bug, judders the mouse on a 100% mouse input game
[01:23] <netsurf3> ahh thought occoured why it was doing it
[01:23] <netsurf3> brb
[01:24] <Daskreech> ha ha
[01:24] <Daskreech> I like when people use FOSS :) always starts them thinking on how to fix stuff
[01:28] <netsurf3> Daskreech, hmm thats a shame :( no dice
[01:29] <Daskreech> it has no logs?
[01:29] <netsurf3> apparently not
[01:29] <netsurf3> i cant find any
[02:35] <chaitu> Hello All.Would I be able to install kubuntu by having iso on my external hard disk?thanks
[02:37] <e_t_> chaitu: Not really. There are ways to do something similar, but it's not as simple as just having the ISO image on your hard drive.
[02:38] <chaitu> no sorry. I meant..can I hookup my usb hard disk and install kubuntu onto this system?
[02:38] <chaitu> like have my usb hard disk boot up kubuntu...
[02:39] <Daskreech> chaitu: Oh yes if your motherboard supports that
[02:40] <chaitu> oh cool. can you please tell me how to find that out?
[02:41] <chaitu> it gives me options to choose which order to boot. It has cd,notebook hard disk,usb and so on..
[02:43] <e_t_> chaitu: That sounds like your BIOS menu. You probably want to leave that alone for now, because a change there is somewhat permanent.
[02:44] <e_t_> chaitu: On my computer, I can press F12 during boot and get a one-time-only boot selector. Different makers have different keys though.
[02:44] <chaitu> All am trying to do is install the latest kubuntu and as my cd drive is out of order and I couldnt get the 2 gb usb stick to work, am seeing if having this iso image on my 1tb hard drive will help me installing
[02:46] <e_t_> No, it won't. Not unless you can get it burnt onto a CD or written to a flash drive.
[02:47] <e_t_> What about your 2GB usb stick didn't work? That sounds like the best bet for you.
[02:48] <chaitu> I did follow the guide on ubuntu to make my 2 gb a installer. It does not work sadly..
[02:48] <chaitu> guess will format that 2gb drive and try again
[02:48] <chaitu> 2 gb is enough,right?thats all I have handy now
[02:48] <e_t_> chaitu: The ISO image is less than 700
[02:49] <e_t_> chaitu: The ISO image is less than 700MB, 2GB = 2000MB.
[02:49] <chaitu> oh..
[02:49] <e_t_> sorry, I pressed Enter by mistake.
[02:49] <chaitu> true.my bad
[02:50] <e_t_> What OS are you using right now and what program are you using to try to create the USB disk?
[02:52] <chaitu> am on kubuntu now.http://bit.ly/6Sf2A is the method I used.
[02:52] <chaitu> Incase you are busy to open that link, its on the ubuntu website
[02:54] <e_t_> OK. Give unetbootin a try (sudo apt-get install unetbootin) and run it with "kdesudo unetbootin". When usb-creator fails on me, that's what I turn to.
[02:54] <chaitu> ok let me do that.please give me a minute.thanks
[02:56] <chaitu> umnn it gives me this http://pastebin.com/L66EaG2x
[03:02] <e_t_> What's the output of "uname -r -p" ?
[03:26] <doublinc9> hi, how do i edit grub so i can boot another OS first?
[03:32] <Daskreech> !grub
[03:32] <Daskreech> Second link
[03:49] <doublinc9> for those wondering
[03:49] <doublinc9>  sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[03:54] <Daskreech> :)
[04:07] <gigenieks> Hi guys
[04:14] <Daskreech> hi gigenieks
[04:15] <gigenieks> In Quassel I can only chat #kubuntu channel
[04:15] <gigenieks> how can I add other channels
[04:15] <gigenieks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quassel
[04:15] <gigenieks> only manual I found
[04:15] <gigenieks> :/
[04:16] <maum> hello
[04:16] <maum> I cannot hear the sound even though I put the command(alsa force-reload) into /etc/rc.local file.
[04:18] <Linkmaster> gigenieks: click the 'join' button on the top and type in a channel, such as #kubuntu-offtopic, or click on the link I created to the -offtopic channel, or type /join <channel name> ie  '/join #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:18] <gigenieks> yes did that
[04:19] <gigenieks> I just was supicious about
[04:19] <gigenieks> Network: Kubuntu IRC (thought I would connect only to #kubuntu nothing more..)
[04:19] <gigenieks> silly
[04:24] <gigenieks> Anybody knows how to setup and use Virtual Box?
[04:27] <Daskreech> gigenieks: where do you want to add them?
[04:28] <Daskreech> !virtualbox
[04:28] <Daskreech> maum: you can hear no sound at all?
[04:32] <gigenieks> Daskreech: "add them" ?
[04:33] <Daskreech> You said you wanted to add other channels
[04:34] <Daskreech> I didn't know if you meant a permanent add or just wanted to join them
[04:34] <maum> Daskreech, yes
[04:34] <Daskreech> !alsa
[04:36] <maum> if I put the command in the terminal -> sudo alsa force-reload , I can hear the sound. but I want the permanent way because if I reboot the system, the problem is still existed.
[04:37] <gigenieks> right now will work temporarly add
[04:38] <gigenieks> I would like to know this
[04:38] <gigenieks> I searched in K Package Kit
[04:38] <gigenieks> "virtual box"
[04:38] <gigenieks> 9 results
[04:38] <gigenieks> 1st, VirtualBox OSE
[04:38] <gigenieks> and 8 other is like needed or what?
[04:39] <gigenieks> 2nd virtualbox-guest-additions
[04:39] <gigenieks> virtuabox-ose "x86 virtualization solution - base binaries"
[04:39] <gigenieks> virtualbox-ose-dbg
[04:39] <gigenieks> virtualbox-ose-dkms
[04:39] <gigenieks> virtualbox-ose-fuse
[04:39] <gigenieks> -virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms
[04:40] <gigenieks> virtualbox-ose-guest-utils
[04:40] <gigenieks> virtualbox-ose-guest-x11
[04:40] <gigenieks> I guess I just need "VirtualBox OSE" for now?
[04:40] <gigenieks> or that other stuff too?
[04:41] <rww> you just need virtualbox-ose
[04:42] <rww> it'll pull in the other packages from that list that it wants
[04:44] <gigenieks> ok
[04:44] <gigenieks> and --->
[04:45] <gigenieks> do i need to close other applications while I install VB in order to avoid getting some errors / issues
[04:45] <gigenieks> ?
[04:47] <Linkmaster> gigenieks: this isn't windows :P You can have other applications running, it doesn't cause problems[I often run applications even while muon/apt-get is updating said applications, no worries on my end]
[04:50] <gigenieks> I have 750RAM used (of 1GB) and 230MB swap, wouldnt it take much longer if I didnt close apps
[04:50] <gigenieks> just listening to awesome music :D
[04:54] <Linkmaster> gigenieks: another 1gig user! I thought I was the only one left :P
[04:54] <Linkmaster> Though I put a 6gig swap, so I forgot what happens when I dont' close things out xD
[04:55] <gigenieks> 6gb swap??
[04:55] <gigenieks> I put only 1gb
[04:55] <gigenieks> and everything is fine
[04:55] <gigenieks> :)
[04:56] <gigenieks> Linkmaster: this is my father's pc mine have only 768mb and not DDR2 just DDR
[04:56] <gigenieks> ....
[04:56] <gigenieks> in that I will put Xubuntu
[04:56] <Linkmaster> Xubuntu might be good, haha. Or an older version of Kubuntu
[04:58] <gigenieks> going install VB
[04:58] <gigenieks> see later
[05:07] <cypha> hi
[05:07] <cypha> why can't I download themes?
[05:07] <cypha> says network error
[05:17] <gigenieks> did you asked that in kubuntuforums.net?
[05:17] <gigenieks> or searched in googlubuntu?
[05:17] <gigenieks> Dont have any experience with themes in Kubuntu yet..
[05:40] <maum> I cannot hear the sound even though I put the command(alsa force-reload) into /etc/rc.local file.
[05:42] <cypha> i have a pretty specifc question
[05:42] <cypha> can I make the same terminal window appear and disappear with a keyboard shortcut?
[05:42] <cypha> even if it loses focus
[06:03] <e_t_> cypha: right-click on the window's title bar, go down to Advanced, and select Window Shortcut. You'll be able to assign a shortcut to that window.
[06:07] <cypha> e_t, I mean permanent
[06:07] <cypha> also, where can I change the standard shortcut for next tab? I no longer want it to be ctrl+.
[06:09] <e_t_> System Settings > Shortcuts and Gestures > Standard Keyboard Shortcuts. (In Custom Shorcuts, you can create your own permanent shortcuts)
[06:11] <cypha> oh, i see, it's a shortcut within rekonq itself
[06:11] <cypha> that's why i couldn't find it
[06:12] <cypha> cool that the system settings shortcuts realized the keycombo was occupied (even in an app outside itself)
[06:13] <rww> cypha: it appears kde-look.org is down right now, that would explain your theme network error.
[06:13] <cypha> ahh, cool, gracias :)
[06:14] <cypha> there's no "Activate next tab" in the standard keyboard shortcuts, btw
[07:17] <bigbrovar> any idea if kubuntu 11.10 would come with kmail1 in the repos? or is this the wrong place to ask?
[07:31] <cypha> how can I remove a shortcut I created for a window?
[07:31] <cypha> it doesn't remove
[07:45] <redeyyez> this things kicking my ass tonight lol i just want to watch a movie and go to sleep, logitech z05 external usb speaker
[07:45] <redeyyez> Normally have to set it as the default output device for sound
[07:45] <redeyyez> can't remember how ive done it in the past.
[07:45] <redeyyez> kubuntu natty
[07:59] <redeyyez> anyone? i need to change the default play back device to the external seakerws
[08:02] <mabl> @redeyyez: I do this via the system-settings dialog Multimedia->Phonon and change the order of the output devices
[08:03] <mabl> If that doesn't hal, try pavucontrol
[08:06] <redeyyez> finally got the ability to do just that. Device appeared and everything, it was glorious!!! Then i realized boxee is still playing through the laptop
[08:09] <redeyyez> best question now is how to restart the sound card w/o rebooting
[08:12] <mabl> povucontrol let's you reroute the sound of applications to different output devices
[08:13] <redeyyez> ah that's nice
[08:15] <redeyyez> searched packimanager can't find the tarball
[08:15] <mabl> oubs, typo it's pavucontrol
[08:16] <mabl> it's a gtk app though
[08:17] <cypha> how in the world do I increase the general font size in here?
[08:32] <redeyyez> sad sad day rebooted like a windows server, all setup liike you say yet no lobitech usb sound
[08:34] <cypha> redeyyez, how can i adjust the default font for kubuntu?
[08:34] <cypha> i'm finding it difficult to read most thing
[08:34] <cypha> s
[08:34] <cypha> sizewise and dullness
[08:36] <redeyyez> cypha, i believe its sytem > System admin section  > font installer?
[08:36] <redeyyez> adujust your resolution?
[08:37] <cypha> the resolution is the same as it was on gnome and on windows
[08:38] <mabl> @cypha Have a look into system settings -> Application Appearance -> Fonts
[08:39] <mabl> @redeyyez, sorry I have no other idea how to get it working
[08:39] <redeyyez> fixed itself arfter two reboots
[08:40] <redeyyez> great now, wish i could done all that without rebooting
[08:45] <cypha> mabl, thanks
[08:46] <redeyyez> mabl thanks
[08:47] <mabl> you're both welcome :)
[08:47] <cypha> mabl, any way to darken the black?
[08:48] <mabl> cypha, you mean the colour of the fonts?
[08:49] <cypha> well, i dunno, i just feel like everything looks a bit blurry
[08:49] <cypha> not as crisp as it should be
[08:50] <mabl> it's probably anti-aliasing
[08:50] <mabl> in your font's config, there is a "Use anti-aliasing" setting
[08:51] <mabl> you can try to play with it a bit.
[08:51] <dima_> Hello everyone. Every time I try to connect remotely to my kde desktop, I get "Refused uninvited connection attempt from ..." no matter what options I set in krfb
[08:51] <dima_> Has anyone got it working?
[08:52] <dima_> I've set the "allow uninvited connections" and specified the password. However it still closes connection with the same error
[08:55] <cypha> how do i make a particular application have a shortcut for minimizing?
[08:58] <cypha> mabl?
[09:02] <mabl> hmm, you could do alt+f3 follwed by n
[09:02] <mabl> you might also be able to assign a key in System Settings -> shortcuts and gestures
[09:04] <cypha> mabl, in fact my ultimate goal was to have the window show/hide itself with the same shortcut (toggle)
[09:05] <mabl> cypha, you can assign shortcuts under system settings - > shortcuts and g...->Global shortcuts -> KDE component: kwin
[09:06] <Incarus6> KDE 4.7 has been released: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.7/
[09:06] <mabl> but i'm not sure if it allows you to toggle
[09:07] <cypha> cool, i set a shortcut
[09:07] <ArchangelSe7en> awesome
[09:08] <cypha> thanks
[09:08] <cypha> brb
[09:53] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[09:53] <Shirakawasuna> if a package is currently in 'oneiric', does this mean it's truly slated to be part of 11.10? (my imaginary alternative is that it's in testing and has a good chance of being pushed back)
[09:53] <Shirakawasuna> ?
[09:53] <Shirakawasuna> I'm wondering mostly about kdepim stuff - whether the jump to akonadi will occur w/ 11.10
[09:54] <Shirakawasuna> maybe I just answered my own question.. I could've sworn it was version 4.6 less than a month ago, now it's still 4.4
[10:38] <student> moin
[11:03] <silentshadow> Hello...
[11:03] <soee> hiho silentshadow
[11:04] <silentshadow> I'm having a bit of trouble and its doing my head in... X.x
[11:05] <silentshadow> Can someone help me with a few things...
[11:06] <James147> !help | silentshadow
[11:07] <silentshadow> Ok, Well i just installed Kubuntu 11.04 and works fine. i just cant seem to get Java working at all .. i have gone through the tutorials and it fails after a few steps..
[11:08] <James147> silentshadow: where does it fail?
[11:09] <silentshadow> Well i put in 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts' then it hangs for a bit then fails with 5 errors :/
[11:10] <silentshadow> Reading Package lists :0%....
[11:10] <James147> silentshadow: have you enabled the partner repos?
[11:11] <silentshadow> how do i do that?
[11:11] <James147> !partner
[11:13] <silentshadow> that doesnt seem to work either ;/
[11:17] <silentshadow> Is there any easyer way to install Java? :S
[11:22] <silentshadow> Now trying to use KPackageKit...
[11:29] <silentshadow> Bah this isnt helping?!!?!?
[11:30] <yofel> silentshadow: what error do you get when running that add-apt-repository command?
[11:30] <yofel> or why exactly do you _need_ sun-java
[11:30] <silentshadow> unknown command x.x
[11:30] <yofel> uh... what release are you on?
[11:30] <silentshadow> 11.04 :/
[11:31] <silentshadow> from http://www.kubuntu.org/
[11:31] <yofel> doesn't make sense then, did you copy & paste everything between the quotes?
[11:31] <yofel> from sudo to partner" ?
[11:31] <jane-> i cant boot. iam on grub rescue>  error: file not found . what to do now >
[11:32] <yofel> jane-: ouch, remember doing anything that might have lead to that?
[11:33] <yofel> silentshadow: but in most cases openjdk and icedtea-plugin should work too
[11:33] <yofel> except if there's an app that esp. requires the oracle one
[11:33] <silentshadow> other than installing kubuntu ;s
[11:34] <silentshadow> Ubuntu wouldnt install properly last time so i tried Kubuntu..and its not much better :9
[11:34] <silentshadow> :(*
[11:34] <yofel> well, what's the problem? (except java)
[11:35] <yofel> we don't ship sun-java in the archive because we use openjdk usually
[11:35] <James147> and most of the time you wont notice
[11:36] <James147> the difference ^^
[11:37] <silentshadow> kpackagekit even freezes alot -.-"
[11:38] <silentshadow> i guess if i try reformatting.....again.. things "might" work...
[11:38] <yofel> silentshadow: in konsole: "sudo apt-get install muon"
[11:38] <yofel> maybe that works better than kpk
[11:40] <silentshadow> Reading package lists... Error!
[11:40] <silentshadow> E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error)
[11:40] <silentshadow> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[11:40] <silentshadow> thats the error that comes up EVERY time.. :/
[11:41] <yofel> I/O error o.O
[11:41] <yofel> what do you see at the end of the output when you run 'dmesg' (please don't paste)
[11:43] <silentshadow> o.O! What am i looking for other than 0's?
[11:43] <jane-> i cant boot. iam on grub rescue>  error: file not found . what to do now >
[11:45] <yofel> silentshadow: ok, can you pastebin the last ~20 lines?
[11:45] <yofel> !paste
[11:45] <silentshadow> i could try :P
[11:47] <silentshadow> !paste
[11:47] <silentshadow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/653732/
[11:51] <yofel> silentshadow: you've got issues with your hard disk, bad or badly connected cable maybe?
[11:51] <silentshadow> X.x its a laptop :(
[11:52] <yofel> plug the disk out and in again, maybe the pins aren't clean
[11:53] <silentshadow> hmm... if i can even get it open lol
[11:53] <silentshadow> but il try then come back on here
[11:53] <silentshadow> if i remember how lol
[11:53] <yofel> shouldn't be more than a screw usually ^^
[11:54] <silentshadow> Oh also would this problem possibly be the cause for windows 7 to corrupt and crash?
[11:54] <yofel> sure, if it can't read/write data from/to the disk any OS would stop working
[11:54] <silentshadow> hmmm ok. thanks, be back soon
[12:06] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:09] <afief> When installing kubuntu form a usb stick I get "configuring apt failed. installer crashed", is there any workaround for this?
[12:15] <silentshadow> Alright. Im back.
[12:16] <silentshadow> should i re-install Kubuntu again?
[12:18] <yofel> silentshadow: first check dmesg again if you still get ATA  errors
[12:19] <yofel> need to go, bbl
[12:32] <afief> When installing kubuntu form a usb stick I get "configuring apt failed. installer crashed", is there any workaround for this?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> afief, check the md5sum on the image /iso
[12:35] <BluesKaj> !md5
[12:35] <afief> BluesKaj: I did, md5 is perfect
[12:36] <afief> also, only seems to happen on specific machines
[12:37] <BluesKaj> afief, hmm, it's always the apt error ?
[12:37] <afief> BluesKaj: Yup. tried it three times
[12:38] <BluesKaj> any cdroms on these machines ? or you might consider the alternate install
[12:39] <afief> BluesKaj: they do have cdroms, but I don't have any CDs around
[12:39] <AlexZion> hi everyone, just a simple question ..., I'm a Kubuntu 11.04 user, we will have kde 4.7 for our system ? or we need to wait until Kubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> and the bios is set to boot from the usb stick , afief ?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> I have to ask
[12:40] <afief> BluesKaj: nope, but I set boot from usb stick on the bootmenu(this way I don't have to go back and change it when I'm done installing)
[12:43] <BluesKaj> afief, which bootmenu ?
[12:44] <mrub> hello everyone, I'm so excited about kde 4.7, does anyone have estimates when the binary packages will come out? ;)
[12:45] <soee> mrub, today if there wont be any problem thats what yofel said
[12:45] <afief> BluesKaj: something my bios got. instead of going to the BIOS setup I can go to this "boot menu" and chose a different boot device for this session
[12:45] <BluesKaj> AlexZion, not sure about kde 4.7 for 11.04 , but you could check at www.kde.org
[12:45] <James147> BluesKaj: most computer have a key you can press at boot to let you pick which device to boot off bypassing the list in the bios
[12:46] <afief> BluesKaj: most modern laptops/desktops have it
[12:46] <AlexZion> thanks BluesKaj I will ....
[12:46] <James147> ^^ though some need it enabled in the bios first :)
[12:46] <mrub> soee: thank you for the information
[12:46] <soee> Alexia_Death, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging as yuo can see only few items missing for 11.04
[12:46] <BluesKaj> James147, how modern /
[12:46] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:46] <soee> AlexZion, up to you
[12:47] <James147> BluesKaj: not that modern
[12:47] <James147> BluesKaj: computer 5 or more years old will probally have it
[12:47] <BluesKaj> don't think I have it on this pc , 3yrs old \
[12:49] <BluesKaj> so it lists the boot sequence ...but that's immaterial if you already have grub , because the shift key will bring it up
[12:50] <student> doesn't bring it up on my pc....
[12:50] <afief> BluesKaj: but I don't have grub on the laptop I'm trying to install on. It only has the pre-installed Windows7 on it
[12:50] <AlexZion> mhhhh, soee I think the only way would be to compile it ..., and I'm not so expert about it ...., so I cannot try it in a production machine ....
[12:51] <afief> My main machine is slugging along with 256MB ram
[12:51] <Guest89038> ihr habts doch keine ahnung
[12:51] <soee> AlexZion, why do yuo think that >?
[12:51] <student> @Guest89038: nazzi?
[12:51] <Pici> !de | Guest89038
[12:52] <Pici> student: Please stop.
[12:52] <soee> AlexZion, just wait day or 2 and you wil hava 4.7 in backports
[12:52] <soee> *will
[12:52] <student> @pici: sry, but he was insulting
[12:53] <student> did send me pictures of him naked
[12:53] <AlexZion> really , it's planned to be available !?! , good news , for what I read I thougth it was just for 11.10 ...., so I'll wait without problem  even weeks ..... ;)
[12:53] <Pici> student: Excuse me? All he did was say one thing in german.
[12:54] <student> @Pici: he joined our channel days ago, just for trolling
[12:54] <afief> AlexZion: it is for 11.10 but the awesome kubuntu guys do a backport of KDE current+1 for every version ;)
[12:55] <afief> for those of us who can't risk upgrading the whole system right now
[12:55] <whity> jetzt hats dich student
[12:56] <student> okay, i'm outta here, if you don't like the truth
[12:56] <AlexZion> perfect afief..., like always ...., thanks to every developer for the great job done on kubuntu ....
[12:57] <silentshadow> Hello?
[12:57] <afief> AlexZion: if you want to help them you can always try out the daily builds and look for imperfections
[12:57] <afief> silentshadow: hello
[12:58] <silentshadow> I have just reinstalled Kubuntu and also did all the updates while instaling the OS.
[12:58] <silentshadow> Now from step 1, How do i get java setup?
[12:58] <bazhang> !java | silentshadow
[12:58] <bazhang> !partner | silentshadow
[12:59] <afief> ubottu: I love you
[12:59] <afief> awww
[12:59] <silentshadow> lol
[12:59] <AlexZion> afief: I cannot rigth now , due to missing space on hard disk ...., I'll change my laptop very sun hopefully ....., after that I would like to learnand contribute much more .....
[12:59] <AlexZion> ops* very soon ....
[12:59] <afief> AlexZion: Cool :D Good luck and most important: enjoy free software
[13:00] <benedict__> hi! how can i copy a directory to another server _with_ all symlinks?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> silentshadow, or you could install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:02] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:02] <Guest39284> Hello, someone knows how to switch between 2 graphics "cards"? One is Nvidia Gforce and other is the intel-i3 graphics processor
[13:04] <AlexZion> Guest39284: for what I know , is not so easy , should be out there some "experimental package" for that ....., I didn't change my laptop yet because I don't find any interesting laptop without optimus technology
[13:08] <silentshadow> It seems i can and have installed Java 6 runtime now.
[13:08] <silentshadow> :D
[13:08] <silentshadow> Just cant use it in firefox lol
[13:09] <Guest39284> AlexZion. Oks i'm searching for something to do it, and i found that the new kernells provide the possibility of switch between graphics cards by  using vga_switcheroo
[13:10] <BluesKaj> silentshadow, did you install the restricted-extras?
[13:11] <silentshadow> Nope.
[13:11] <AlexZion> Guest39284: great but be carefull, I don't know if you will find already a stable system ....
[13:13] <silentshadow> Doing another update x.x
[13:14] <Guest39284> AlexZion: I'm reading about, and it seems to be unestable. In fact i think im going to be waiting to another solution (it has to come this year). Im only using normal applications, never games. So i can wait
[13:14] <Guest39284> AlexZion: Thanks for all!
[13:15] <AlexZion> you are welcome ...., anyway Guest39284 while you are waiting for a solution , there is a way to switch off the nvidia card , to improve the barrery duration ...
[13:17] <Guest39284> AlexZion: No prob, because the one that is being used by the laptop is the intel graphics so is the best option to wait.
[13:25] <silentshadow> This isnt working....
[13:26] <ElTimo> Does anyone have any experience with Bumblebee?
[13:27] <soee> anyone using YaRock ?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> silentshadow, the restricted extras provides the plugins for java, flash and other codecs etc necessary for your install to work with webmedia and multimedia ...that all i can tell you
[13:31] <BluesKaj> !anyone
[13:35] <silentshadow> this is stupid...doesnt work.. il find something else...
[13:39] <BluesKaj> he's stupid
[13:40] <BluesKaj> you can lead a horse to water ....
[13:41] <OerHeks> .. but you can't make him eat it ?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> drink
[13:50] <shane2peru1> out of curiosity, why is it when I open firefox, it opens not full screen, but only half screen?
[14:13] <sebastiano> sorry it probably has been asked a 1000 times, but when will the kde 4.7 packages be ready?
[14:14] <AlexZion> sebastiano: kde 4.7 is ready , but depend of what distro are you using ...to be available ..
[14:21] <sebastiano> AlexZion: what about 11.4?
[14:21] <AlexZion> it should be rady in few days I guess ....
[14:21] <AlexZion> *ready
[14:22] <sebastiano> AlexZion: ok cool tnx
[14:22] <AlexZion> you're welcome...... ;)
[14:22] <PaulW2U> sebastiano: keep an eye on http://www.kubuntu.org/news. PPA details will also be announced there
[14:23] <mfraz74> What about Amarok 2.4.2?
[14:26] <AlexZion> mfraz74: maybe you'll have much more info in #amarok channel about it
[14:32] <mfraz74> AlexZion: The beta is out, but no one seems to have packaged it for Kubuntu 11.04 yet
[14:33] <AlexZion> no , for the 11.04 , you can get just 2.4.1, using the backport ppa....
[14:34] <mfraz74> I know about 2.4.1, but I have stuck with 2.4.0 as it has a bug and that has been fixed in 2.4.2
[14:35] <AlexZion> mfraz74: I had a problem with streaming , but I fixed using 2.4.1 and changing the phonon backend with vlc backend as they suggest me on the channel
[14:36] <LarsT> Hello
[14:36] <LarsT> I need help
[14:36] <LarsT> .
[14:36] <LarsT> .
[14:36] <mfraz74> AlexZion: it is the saving of ratings to files bug that is affecting me - even though saving of statistics to file is disabled it still does it
[14:37] <LarsT> no
[14:37] <LarsT> i need help
[14:38] <mfraz74> what with?
[14:38] <LarsT> i have ap roblem iwth
[14:38] <LarsT> unity
[14:38] <LarsT> t
[14:38] <LarsT> y
[14:40] <paolinux> hi
[14:41] <genii-around> LarsT: You probably want the regular #ubuntu channel then, not here
[14:42] <LarsT> no i meant
[14:43] <LarsT> i have a problem with unity
[14:43] <LarsT> and it is not solveable
[14:43] <LarsT> so i wanted to change the environment
[14:45] <genii-around> LarsT: If you have installed kubuntu-desktop then you can choose from the login screen to use it instead.
[14:45] <LarsT> i do a clean reinstall
[14:45] <LarsT> but first i have to check if kde is right for me
[14:45] <LarsT> maybe i can explain my problem first
[14:46] <BluesKaj> that would help
[14:48] <LarsT> okay well
[14:48] <LarsT> the biggest problem is
[14:49] <paolinux> on my kubuntu 11.04 (kde 6.6.5) i mounted a nfs share. when this share is not more available (server shutdown/poweroff) , plasma-desktop freezes
[14:49] <LarsT> unity uses compiz. and compiz has desktop wall
[14:49] <LarsT> and the desktop wall thing has the problem that windows maximises where they are most
[14:49] <LarsT> t
[14:49] <ikonia> LarsT: you've asked about this before and it's been explained to you before
[14:49] <ikonia> stop now
[14:50] <paolinux> are there anyone with my same issue?
[14:50] <ikonia> paolinux: you'll find that's quite common with NFS
[14:51] <ikonia> paolinux: stale NFS managment is known to cause similar problems in many applications,
[14:51] <LarsT> ikonia: yes i know but i want to explain the background
[14:51] <ikonia> LarsT: we don't need to hear it
[14:51] <ikonia> LarsT: there is a bug logged on it - you've explained it many times, enough. This is your only warning
[14:52] <LarsT> well BluesKaj, and i can not deactivate desktop wall because unity crashed then, and so i want to change to kde
[14:55]  * BluesKaj shrugs , sorry, no instant gratifiacation here LarsT
[14:57] <paolinux> ikonia: yes... but tihs issue affecting also plasma-desktop... and is not nice that when the nfs share is not available  your desktop freezes.
[14:57] <ikonia> BluesKaj: sorry to interupt, long story, don't worry about it
[14:58] <ikonia> paolinux: it's just a feature of how NFS works, it maybe worth logging a bug to see if plsma can handle it better though
[15:00] <mr-rich> is there a way to tell kpackagekit to ignore a certain update?
[15:01] <paolinux> ikonia: hum... yes mybee a good idea to logging a bug
[15:05] <mfraz74> Why does kpackage kit keep asking for my password even though I have set it to remember me?
[15:15] <ubuntu____> can anyone help me??
[15:15] <ubuntu____> please..please..please...
[15:15] <ubuntu____> http://askubuntu.com/questions/54536/why-doesnt-grub-detect-my-installation
[15:15] <ubuntu____> my GRUB doesn't detect my ubuntu partition...
[15:16] <ubuntu____> only memtest+ appear..
[15:16] <ubuntu____> I don't have windows partition..
[15:16] <ubuntu____> only ubuntu partition in it..
[15:17] <ubuntu____> anyone??
[15:23] <ghettoblaster> what did you use to create partitions?
[15:24] <ubuntu____> nust normal installation using live cd
[15:24] <ghettoblaster> have you tried "sudo update-grub"?
[15:24] <ubuntu____> now i'm using live cd to access to the internet
[15:25] <ubuntu____> yup.. soo many times..
[15:26] <ubuntu____> only memtest appear..
[15:26] <ubuntu____> ghettoblaster :not my ubuntu installation...
[15:27] <ghettoblaster> why did you create an extended partition for swap ?
[15:29] <ubuntu____> i dont know.. i dont know how this happen
[15:31] <ghettoblaster> hmm, im not that expert but what about a fresh, clean install with "use whole disk" in install dialog?
[15:32] <ubuntu____> yeah, i think i use that when i installing ubuntu
[15:33] <ghettoblaster> what kind of computer is it?
[15:34] <ubuntu____> ghettoblaster: laptop brand HP Compaq..
[15:35] <ghettoblaster> version?
[15:37] <ubuntu____> version of the laptop?
[15:37] <ubuntu____> compaq presario cq40
[15:37] <ghettoblaster> yes like 615 or such
[15:41] <ubuntu____> ghettoblaster: before this i had reinstalled my grub cause my grub menu is missing...
[15:42] <ghettoblaster> if you dont have any other OS installed ubuntu shows no menu, i think
[15:43] <ghettoblaster> should work fine: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp-compaq+presario+cq40
[15:46] <ghettoblaster> did GRUB work before you reinstalled it?
[15:47] <ubuntu____> sometimes does sometime not but it automatically go to the login screen..
[15:50] <ghettoblaster> i'm not very experienced in Compaq Laptops, maybe try to remove sdb reinstall ubuntu and install sdb again?
[15:54] <ghettoblaster> this laptop should work, i don't know linux to sometimes boot sometimes not, 0 or 1, should work always in standard configuration.
[15:55] <ubuntu____> the sdb is my removable drives it not related to the partition..
[15:56] <ubuntu____> yeah, before thi i had install ubuntu lucid and natty, it seem okay..
[15:56] <ubuntu____> but after i install kubuntu and use entire partition, this happen..
[15:59] <ghettoblaster> you could try to install and partition manually, cause you can create up to four primary partitions on one harddisk.
[16:00] <ghettoblaster> i don't see any sense to create an extended partition...
[16:01] <James147> ubuntu____: how did you reinstall grub?
[16:05] <ubuntu____> i using some command i found in internet..
[16:05] <James147> ubuntu____: can you paste the command here
[16:09] <ubuntu____> Jame147: you want me to paste it from the early stage or just reinstall command?
[16:10] <James147> ubuntu____: if you followed sevrail steps then pastebin them, but its find to paste one line here
[16:10] <James147> !paste
[16:16] <ubuntu____> James147:http://paste.ubuntu.com/653878/
[16:19] <James147> ubuntu____: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB2
[16:23] <karmo> Kate 3.6.2 using KDE 4.6.2 doesn't save sessions. It throws error into terminal when i'm trying to save a session with some random name: QFile::remove: Empty or null file name
[16:35] <administrator>  bvcbv
[16:45] <rapidsp> hi
[16:47] <rapidsp> anybody know when will be 4.7 at backports?
[16:49] <OerHeks> soon, rapidsp
[16:49] <rapidsp> )
[16:57] <BajK> as long as "soon" means before Friday 17 o'clock :D but how was that saying? What's good needs some time (or so :D)
[17:03] <yofel> BajK: SOON™
[17:03] <yofel> don't worry, I'm not talking about "Debian Soon™" ;)
[17:05] <Peace-> heya
[17:05] <BajK> :D
[17:05] <BajK> I just know the KDE definition of release schedule :D normally "releases on x" means "y 1:58" (which is "x 23:58 UTC") :D
[17:06] <BajK> yofel: it's just, it would be neat to actually have 4.7 running when going to the relase party *grin*
[17:06] <James147> arch
[17:07] <yofel> the packages are backported, but need some fixing
[17:07] <James147> dam mouse
[17:07]  * Peace- downloading kde 4.7 an installing on alpha2
[17:15] <cher> Today I have no luck googling... I want to setup my (headless) kubuntu box to connect to a WLAN during booting. All I can find is the "normal" setup procedures for connections of a specific user. Can someone point me to search keywords or give me URLs where I can continue my search?
[17:16] <cher> Ah hold on I think I got it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessPCMCIATroubleshooting?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FWiFiTroubleshooting looks good.
[17:52] <robby> v
[17:53] <fillipo> může mi někdo vysvětlit, k čemu je tento IRC klient?:-)
[17:53] <PasNox> hello
[17:53] <PasNox> does kde 4.7 is being packaged for maverick ?
[17:54] <fillipo> czech?
[17:55] <robby> hi
[17:58] <genii-around> !cz | fillipo
[18:02] <robby> m7
[18:02] <Daskreech> PasNox: I don't think so
[18:09] <yofel> PasNox: no, maverick won't get 4.7, only natty and oneiric
[18:10] <Daskreech> PasNox: At least not from the core Kubuntu team
[18:11] <yofel> right
[18:16] <ashwin> http://paste.kde.org/102913/ Which driver do i need to install for dialup commection
[18:22] <KubuntuUser> @yofel When should we expect KDE 4.7.0 SC FInal packages in backports ppa?
[18:23] <yofel> no ETA, since ~1 minute ago the Depencies seem right, now's testing time
[18:23] <KubuntuUser> thanks
[18:24] <KubuntuUser> Suse seems to have got thier packages a few hours back. Keep up the good work!
[18:26] <PasNox> Daskreech, yofel: even in the unsupported update ??
[18:26] <ashwin>  http://paste.kde.org/102913/ Which driver do i need to install for dialup commection
[18:26] <yofel> PasNox: natty will get PPA backports from us, maverick not - feel free to get someone to try it
[18:27] <Daskreech> PasNox: even that :) If someone would like to do it there is no objection to having them
[18:27] <PasNox> damn with this naming i don't know which one i'm running
[18:27] <Daskreech> But there is no plans from the core team
[18:27] <KubuntuUser> Anyways no one you likes bleeding edge is likely to be still on maverick!
[18:27] <Daskreech> PasNox: lsb_release -a
[18:27] <PasNox> how can i for sure know the kubuntu version i'm running on ?
[18:27] <PasNox> thanks
[18:27] <PasNox> i did a uname -a ;)
[18:27] <KubuntuUser> tye in konsole
[18:27] <KubuntuUser> uname -a
[18:28] <Daskreech> KubuntuUser: it's lsb_release -a in Ubuntu land
[18:28] <PasNox> ok, i'm running natty ;)
[18:28] <Daskreech> PasNox: Welcome :)
[18:28] <PasNox> so i will get it in ppa / backport, right ?
[18:28] <Daskreech> PasNox: yes
[18:28] <PasNox> great
[18:28] <PasNox> any target time ?
[18:28] <PasNox> what mean ETA ?
[18:28] <Daskreech> You should be able to get somethign to play with by today but that will not be pushed
[18:29] <Daskreech> PasNox: Estimated Time of Arrival (ETA)
[18:29] <PasNox> ok, i can live with a +1 day for the packages ;)
[18:29] <OerHeks> ashwin, 05:00.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems 56k WinModem  ?
[18:29] <Daskreech> PasNox: in maybe a week then it might be pushed
[18:29] <PasNox> oh so long :( thanks.
[18:30] <ashwin> OerHeks:yes
[18:30] <KubuntuUser> @Yofel, Is packaging on Kubuntu done completely manually, i.e no build service automation?
[18:30] <PasNox> does it will have kmail2 and kde-telepathy TP ?
[18:30] <yofel> KubuntuUser: sure we have package builders on launchpad, but creating the packages is handwork
[18:30] <yofel> although I need to try to script the backporting... this is way to much work for ~70 packages
[18:31] <KubuntuUser> ok
[18:31] <yofel> KubuntuUser: feel free to follow us in #kubuntu-devel if you want details :P
[18:31] <PasNox> yofel: any info on kmail2 / kde-telepathy TP ?
[18:32] <ashwin> OerHeks:Do you know which driver?
[18:32] <yofel> kmail2 will probably end up in the experimental PPA again for now, due to lack of testing
[18:32] <yofel> I'm not involved in the telepathy stuff though
[18:32] <Daskreech> PasNox: You understand the difference in being pushed or not? :)
[18:32] <OerHeks> ashwin, nope, sorry, can't find that modem
[18:34] <Daskreech> KubuntuUser: Well since it's on a computer obviously some of it isn't done manually but particularly for KDE it's changed a lot over the last year so a lot is done by hand just to make sure it's all correct but it get more automated everytime
[18:34] <PasNox> yofel: damn, so longtime i'm waiting for kmail2 and each time reproted for later time :D
[18:35] <mr-rich> is there a way to tell kpackagekit to ignore a certain update?
[18:35] <PasNox> Daskreech: i don't understadn why u tell me that ?
[18:35] <Daskreech> PasNox: A pushed package will turn up in your automated updates. Most people will install it then without thinking about it
[18:36] <Daskreech> PasNox: It can be available but not pushed in which case you have to ask for it. That will happen today. So if you want you can get it today. Might not be as tested but you got it!
[18:36] <antihero> Hey, what's the main package to install to get kde on ubuntu? the package "kde-full"
[18:36] <antihero> is borked on oneiric
[18:37] <PasNox> Daskreech: ah oki, thank you, so what i do to get it ? i think kpackagekit will not see it ? maybe a apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[18:37] <PasNox> ( preceded by a apt-get update )
[18:38] <Daskreech> PasNox: if you have the experimental repo then an apt-get dist-upgrade would work :)
[18:38] <antihero> Argh, latest dist-upgrade completely killed my kde desktop
[18:38] <antihero> As in removed most of the packages
[18:38] <PasNox> Daskreech: ok, thanks :)
[18:38] <Daskreech> antihero: yay packaging bugs :)
[18:39] <PasNox> we all are humands
[18:39] <PasNox> :)
[18:39] <PasNox> humans*
[18:39] <antihero> Daskreech: :( Which packages should I install to get my KDE back :)
[18:39] <PasNox> kubuntu-desktop
[18:39] <PasNox> ?
[18:39] <antihero> PasNox: Lots of broken packages
[18:40] <PasNox> ?
[18:40] <Daskreech> antihero: kubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <Daskreech> if that doesn't work remove kdelibs5
[18:40] <antihero> I'm on oneiric >.<
[18:40] <Daskreech> then run autoremove
[18:41] <Daskreech> antihero: Ah then ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:41] <PasNox> hey btw
[18:41] <Daskreech> btw isn't here now would you like to leave a message?
[18:41] <PasNox> i have an update since many months that don't want to install on upgrade / dist-upgrade
[18:42] <PasNox> hm yes :D
[18:42] <PasNox> here is the log: http://paste.kde.org/102937
[18:42] <PasNox> i's impossible to upgrade this package since month and i don't knwo why ??
[18:42] <mauri_> where is stored the desktop image? Where i can find it in the distribution
[18:43] <Daskreech> mauri_: Do you mean the ISO for the Kubuntu Desktop CD or the wallpaper on the desktop?
[18:44] <PasNox> any idea for this fucking package ?
[18:44] <Pici> PasNox: Mind your language here please.
[18:45] <PasNox> Pici: excuse me ;)
[18:45] <mauri_> Daskreech: the second one. The image i can change every time i want
[18:45] <Daskreech> !language
[18:45] <Daskreech> mauri_: You want to change it? or just find the one that's there? The one there is in the shared wallpapers in /usr/local/share
[18:46] <PasNox> wallpaers should be in /usr/share/wallpapers ?
[18:47] <Daskreech> that's it :)
[18:47] <mauri_> Daskreech: under usr/local/share there is no wallpapers
[18:48] <yofel> mauri_: notice the local
[18:48] <Daskreech> mauri_: Sorry
[18:49] <Daskreech> no local
[18:50] <mauri_> Daskreech: thank a lot. Now the real question i have
[18:50] <Daskreech> lol
[18:51] <mauri_> Daskreech: kde-default.png is disappears and I liked to much it and im not able to find in the net. May you help me to find
[18:51] <PasNox> just download the iso where u see it the first time, and extract it from the iso :)
[18:54] <mauri_> PasNox: uhmmm.. So difficult :-(
[18:54] <PasNox> no
[18:55] <PasNox> iso can be mounted as loop
[18:55] <PasNox> device
[18:55] <Daskreech> mauri_: that is the easiest way to do it or find someone with that release
[18:55] <Daskreech> You can make the ISO mount just like CDrom
[18:55] <mauri_> Daskreech: okok that a lot to all
[18:55] <Daskreech> I have spoken with someone about making the old wallpapers and the community wallpapers as packages for future releases but never got a lot of people interested in it
[18:56] <Daskreech> I probably have them all somewhere I collect them as I go on
[18:57] <mauri_> Daskreech: it has desappears after an apt-get update/upgrate. Seems that it was linked to Horos/contents/images/1920x1200.png
[18:57] <mauri_> Daskreech: but i dont know that horos is
[18:57] <Daskreech> Horos?
[18:57] <mauri_> Daskreech: yes
[18:58] <mauri_> Daskreech: the red link is :Horos/contents/images/1920x1200.png
[18:58] <Daskreech> Oh hmm
[18:58] <Daskreech>  Maybe goolge for horos wallpaper?
[18:58] <mauri_> Daskreech: im doing it
[18:59] <ghettoblaster> its the default wallpaper
[19:01] <mauri_> ghettoblaster: yes i know but it has been removed during ad update..... I dont know why. I did nothing
[19:02] <mauri_> ghettoblaster: now seem hard to find
[19:03] <ghettoblaster> look here /usr/share/wallpapers/Horos/contents/images/1920x1200.png
[19:06] <ghettoblaster> sometimes my printer disappears after cups updates, i think kpackagekit chooses use package maintainers config file, without asking the user  ;)
[19:08] <mauri_> ghettoblaster: thnks but Horos directory is missing
[19:15] <ioky> Hi, All I just notice a Problem with KDE 4.6.3, or maybe some other version too, When I remove the Noticification Area Wedget, and Transfer something Big , No Transfer Status is show, It there another way to have a Pop up Windows Back? like the "usual"
[19:15] <soee> yofel, how the tests go ?
[19:16] <ghettoblaster> mauri_ : sorry then i got no idea :/
[19:17] <yofel> soee: in progress
[19:17] <soee> yofel, sorry for asking so often but is there any chance to see it today in ppa?
[19:19] <yofel> chances yes, but there's still work left, so not sure
[19:36] <josh__> Hi ! How do I determine whether a particular app (example Firefox) that I have installed is 32 Bit or 64 Bit ? I'm running 11.04 64 Bit though.
[19:37] <Pici> josh__: Unless you've done something fancy and complicated, its a 64bit app.
[19:39] <genii-around> josh__: file /path/filename
[19:39] <josh__> Pici: Okay ! But is there a command that I can use in a terminal ? Like if I want to check whether I'm running 32 Bit app on a 64 Bit OS.
[19:40] <Pici> josh__: file /path/to/executable should tell if you if its a 64 or 32 bit binary.
[19:43] <josh__> Pici: That doesn't seem to work. I get this "usr/lib/firefox-5.0/firefox.sh: POSIX shell script text executable" if I type 'file /usr/lib/firefox-5.0/firefox.sh'
[19:43] <Pici> josh__: Thats because /usr/lib/firefox-5.0/firefox.sh is a script that calls firefox-bin
[19:44] <josh__> Pici: Okay ! How do I check for Firefox ? What is the path ?
[19:45] <yofel> josh__: file /usr/lib/firefox-5.0/firefox-bin
[19:46] <josh__> yofel: Thanks a million ! I got it, I'm running 64 Bit FF !
[19:46] <josh__> Pici: Thanks ! I got my answer !
[19:47] <Linkmaster> I lost sound for everything except for amarok, what should I/can I do to get it back?Any way to restart something, or is the best way to log out and log back in?
[19:49] <Linkmaster> nevermind, I think amarok was hogging it or something
[19:50] <cypha> how can I create a shortcut that toggles a window to hide/show?
[19:50] <cypha> permamently
[20:29] <cypha> how can I get visual bells?
[20:29] <cypha> instead of ding sounds, for example when backspacing with no more characters behind the cursor
[20:30] <dhuv> hello all, I was wondering when KDE 4.7 packages will be available for 11.04
[20:31] <yofel> yes, Soon™
[20:31] <dhuv> yofel: thanks, I figured tomorrow or so
[21:00] <vbgunz> im itching to try 4.7 final. every release is getting nicer and nicer.
[21:03] <soee> :)
[21:04] <Fanfare> Hi @ all! Q: my notebook freezes when LAN-Cable is not connected, otherwise it works well. Freeze appears also when machine is up and LAN-cable gets disconnected... My Guess is wlan driver. Any way to check / confirm?
[21:08] <Fanfare> I: it's an Atheros wlan adapter...
[21:09] <OerHeks> disabling the lancable and freeze is not related to the wlan driver, i guess.
[21:16] <Fanfare> OerHeks: any other possible reasons?
[21:18] <Fanfare> I: removed wlan modules and still freezes, so OerHeks you are right... sadly no messages in syslog...
[21:55] <soee> yofel, some problems with packages?
[21:56] <Fanfare> Q: how to debug a kernel freeze? (with no messages in syslog) Is there a debug kernel?
[21:56] <yofel> network manager applet needs fixing, just hand out in -devel and read the backlog
[21:57] <yofel> Fanfare: there is I think, but you'll have to ask in #ubuntu-kernel how to use that
[21:57] <Fanfare> yofel: thx
[22:00] <Linkmaster> Graphics card:  "ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics"  should I put Natty or Lucid on it?
[22:02] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: you're good with computers, I'm helping a friend get to Linux, and I want her transition to be fairly painless
[22:03] <SIR_Taco> alrighty then
[22:03] <Linkmaster> So...Lucid or Natty?
[22:04] <SIR_Taco> haven't heard any complaints about Natty
[22:04] <SIR_Taco> and it is the LTS
[22:05] <Linkmaster> Alright, we'll try Natty. I'll also do soem researching online, just to make sure
[22:06] <vbgunz> does anybody know how to get rid of the monochomatic system tray and use colorful icons instead?
[22:06] <SIR_Taco> there's a problem that a limited number people seem to run into with encrypting the home directory.... so you might want to think about that
[22:07] <Linkmaster> I don't think she'll encrypt her drive, she's the only one who uses it
[22:08] <SIR_Taco> vbgunz: the icons are in: /usr/share/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons   ... not sure if there are alternatives or not, but you could always make your own or at least replace them there
[22:09] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: Ok, well it'
[22:09] <vbgunz> I wish there were an easier way. a switch would have been nice
[22:09] <SIR_Taco> it's an option when installing, that's why I brought it up, but if she's the only one using the system I wouldn't worry about it so much
[22:10] <Linkmaster> I'm not either, though the fact that the driver was used in 8.04-9.04 seems to worry me slightly, would the opensource driver work for it well on the newer kernel?
[22:12] <SIR_Taco> vbgunz: I believe the idea is that a new "plasma theme" should change that... but that's a new-ish idea and most (all?) don't do it
[22:13] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: we talking video drivers?
[22:13] <Linkmaster> Yeah, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
[22:14] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: you should be fine with 11.04
[22:14] <vbgunz> SIR_Taco: I just think (scratch that, I know) 10 monochromatic icons all similiar to one another in color make it really hard to just to go my sys tray and launch something I need *because* I always have to pause upon pause to get it right... this sucks. I was hoping this would be easier
[22:15] <SIR_Taco> the areas you run into driver problems (like video especially) is when the kernel and/or X window  system changes
[22:16] <SIR_Taco> vbgunz: my understanding of the system was that it's monochrome while idle... then colour while active... which works fine for some, but not all of the items in the tray, I agree
[22:21] <rich06708> anyone know what is the highest cpu of intel or amd this kubuntu 11.04 supports
[22:21] <yofel> uh, there's shouldn't be an intel/amd x86/x86_64 cpu that the kernel doesn't support
[22:24] <SIR_Taco> haha I guess he's welcome
[22:40] <mr-rich> any help getting my Logitech C310 mic working on 11.04?
[22:45] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: have you tried http://forums.quickcamteam.net/ ?
[22:49] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: can't find anything there ...
[22:52] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: ok.... but what's the problem exactly? you have video but no audio with your webcam?
[22:55] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: yes ... no audio
[22:56] <mr-rich> I get video, no audio ...
[23:02] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: and it's not muted under alsa-mixer via konsole?
[23:02] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: I'll check ...
[23:03] <Linkmaster> Is the 11.04 from kubuntu.org kernel 2.6.38?
[23:04] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: when updated it should be yes
[23:04] <Linkmaster> Well, mine is currently. I'm talking about just installation though. I'm going to give my friend all the things she needs on the off-chance her card isn't supported[she can't get a wired connection]
[23:05] <Linkmaster> Including a driver from here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download/stable/
[23:05] <Linkmaster> Ah, it should be good, thanks anyways
[23:06] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: which wireless card ?
[23:06] <Linkmaster> Atheros AR5B93
[23:06] <Linkmaster> This documentation is what I'm following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1286503&highlight=Atheros+AR5B93
[23:07] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: you should be fine without the extra driver.... older Atheros cards are a pain in the butt... been there done that
[23:07] <Linkmaster> You sure? Because if it bombs, theres very little way for me to contact her, other then through her phone
[23:08] <SIR_Taco> better safe than sorry then.... might want to get the mad-wifi builds then too, just in case
[23:08] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: Ok, raised the volume on 2 mic settings in alsamixer ... stil no sound ...
[23:09] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: that's the only mic in the list?
[23:09] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: whats the mad-wifi builds?
[23:10] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: it's for older Atheros cards... I had one for a long time and the new drivers wont work right... but if she's purchased it in the last couple years than everything should be fine
[23:11] <Linkmaster> Okay, thats good to know. I'll just use the driver from the first forum post as my usage, on the off chance things go screwy
[23:12] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: chances are she doesn't have an old card like I had.... so the new drivers should just work
[23:12] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco:  there are 2
[23:12] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: and you turned both up?
[23:14] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: how about under System Settings -> Multimedia -> Phonon -> Audio Recording?
[23:14] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: yes
[23:15] <SIR_Taco> Is your logitech device at the top?
[23:19] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: it was ...
[23:19] <mr-rich> i put it there ...
[23:19] <mr-rich> now it isn't ...
[23:19] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: I suppose I need to run control panel root ...
[23:21] <SIR_Taco> you can try that, but you shouldn't have too
[23:21] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: I moved it up again amd it keeps putting it back in third and the test button is grayed ...
[23:23] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: it won't stay at the top ...
[23:24] <SIR_Taco> ok
[23:27] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: how about this: http://www.blog.highub.com/linux/make-logitech-usb-microphone-work-on-ubuntu/    ?
[23:29] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: let me know how it goes with her computer
[23:30] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: I shall
[23:30] <SIR_Taco> thanks
[23:31] <kubro> any news re: 4.7 upgrade availability
[23:36] <SIR_Taco> kubro: I'm running it right now
[23:36] <jmichaelx> SIR_Taco: in oneiric, or natty?
[23:37] <SIR_Taco> onerirc
[23:37] <kubro> sorry,,natty
[23:40] <SIR_Taco> it shold be more-or-less complete for either though
[23:41] <kubro> just haven't seen anything on kubuntu.org,,,getting ancey,,,
[23:41] <BajK> and I also havent got it over apt-get upgrade^^
[23:41] <BajK> but well, I'll go to bed and hope when I wake up, it'll be there all nice and shiny :D
[23:42] <BajK> shiny shiny bling bling :)
[23:42] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: she downloaded the 11.04 .iso, and it spat out a 172MB .iso. What happened?
[23:42] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: the download got corrupted... happend to me a couple of times... try to d/l again
[23:43] <SIR_Taco> 4.7 *might* be in the kubuntu  beta PPA? not sure about that though
[23:43] <kubro> k, thanks,,,guess I'll be patient,,argh
[23:44] <SIR_Taco> they might backport it... but judging by the change in packages that KDE did, I'm doubtful
[23:44] <kubro> really looking forward to it, based on what I've read.
[23:45] <SIR_Taco> kubro: it's definitely solid so far
[23:45] <kubro> excellent! Good to know! Thanks! <bit jealous> ;)
[23:45] <SIR_Taco> haha
[23:52] <billytwowilly> any word on where I can get kde 4.7 packages? I figured it would be on the website but I don't see it.
[23:53] <SIR_Taco> billytwowilly: likely under kubuntu beta repo
[23:54] <Dragnslcr> billytwowilly- the 11.04 packages may not be ready yet. Sometimes it takes a day or two
[23:59] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: work?