[00:02] <duanedesign> hello geirha. Havent seen you in awhile. I've been real busy. How have you been?
[00:11] <Omsniffiscent> Anyone run spotify through wine? Suddenly songs will stop playing after a few seconds. I don't lose sound, the track timer actually stops.
[00:12] <duanedesign> hmm, afraid I have never used it
[00:13] <duanedesign> might be a spotify issue. Do not know if their documentation would be of any help
[00:13] <Omsniffiscent> They have a linux native version but you have to pay for it because they can't put ads in it because their ads require adobe flash.
[00:29] <philipballew> Omsniffiscent, but linux has adobe flash?
[00:31] <Omsniffiscent> It's proprietary. The linux native version doesn't even have ad support, so it's not that I don't have adobe flash. It's that Spotify didn't put ads in the linux version because it requires adobe flash.
[00:32] <Omsniffiscent> so it's a paid service, the native client.
[00:51] <holstein> maybe its worth paying for ?
[02:05] <Doktor_Zhivago> where is the bash profile file kept in ubuntu
[02:13] <Doktor_Zhivago> nm
[04:20] <gigenieks> hi guys
[04:20] <stlsaint> gigenieks: hey
[04:20] <gigenieks> what is point of this channel?
[04:21] <stlsaint> gigenieks: we offer support for ubuntu and community entities
[04:21] <holstein> gigenieks: check out the /topic :)
[04:22] <gigenieks> I am going to set up Virtual Box and Windows 7 in VB.
[04:22] <gigenieks> What articles should I read?
[04:22] <stlsaint> cool
[04:22] <gigenieks> btw using Kubuntu 11.04
[04:23] <gigenieks> not Ubuntu
[04:23] <gigenieks> would appreciate some basic links
[04:23] <stlsaint> gigenieks: there is a kubuntu irc channel fyi
[04:23] <gigenieks> and if can "how to install properly" too!
[04:23] <holstein> i think you can get areo support now in the more recent Vbox
[04:23] <gigenieks> yeah but it is almost empty
[04:23] <gigenieks> :/
[04:23] <holstein> gigenieks: its going to be a lot like a normal windows install
[04:25] <gigenieks> Step 1 - Install Virtual Box
[04:26] <gigenieks> any links for Kubuntu
[04:26] <gigenieks> ?
[04:26] <holstein> i usually just do in with apt
[04:26] <holstein> you can search in, and use whatever package manager you want
[04:28] <holstein> assuming the opensource virtualbox is acceptable for you, you can just run sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[04:30] <gigenieks> opened K Package Kit
[04:30] <gigenieks> there is
[04:30] <gigenieks> VirtualBox OSE
[04:30] <gigenieks> "Runs several virtual systems on a single host computer"
[04:31] <gigenieks> there is also some other things
[04:31] <gigenieks> like virtualbox-guest-additions "guest additions iso image for VirtualBox"
[04:31] <gigenieks> etc
[04:32] <holstein> you'll probably want that at some point... i do that from inside the guest though
[04:32] <holstein> thats more what thats about
[04:35] <philipballew> can someone help with hardware here. on my desktop when i install ubuntu i boot into the live cd, install and what not fine. but when i boot up grub shows the install is there but i select it the os and it just goes to a blank screen
[04:36] <holstein> philipballew: you can get to the desktop live?
[04:41] <gigenieks> holstein: I searched in K Package Kit "virtual box"
[04:41] <gigenieks> 9 results
[04:42] <gigenieks> should I install all that stuff?
[04:42] <holstein> gigenieks: right, just choose the main pacakge i mentioned earlier
[04:42] <gigenieks> or just VirtualBox OSE "Run several virtual system on a single host computer"
[04:42] <holstein> it'll pull in what it needs
[04:42] <gigenieks> ok
[04:43] <gigenieks> another thing:
[04:43] <gigenieks> should I close amorak, chromium etc when I install VB?
[04:44] <gigenieks> dont want to fix something that I could avoid in first place
[04:45] <holstein> depends
[04:45] <holstein> how much ram do you have?
[04:45] <gigenieks> 1GB (64bit Kubuntu) right now is used:
[04:45] <gigenieks> 750MB RAM
[04:46] <gigenieks> and 230MB swap
[04:46] <holstein> thats going to be tight
[04:46] <gigenieks> OK I will then close everything
[04:46] <holstein> you wont be able to do a lot of gymnastics on either OS at once
[04:46] <gigenieks> btw
[04:46] <gigenieks> how long it would install?
[04:47] <holstein> depends on how hard you can push win7
[04:47] <gigenieks> normally
[04:47] <holstein> gigenieks: what?
[04:47] <holstein> win7?
[04:47] <gigenieks> VB
[04:47] <holstein> i have no idea
[04:47] <holstein> oh... depends on your internet
[04:47] <holstein> its not tiny... could take a bit
[04:47] <holstein> not 20 minutes
[04:47] <holstein> not 20 seconds either though
[04:48] <gigenieks> ok will report how it went
[04:48] <gigenieks> see a bit later
[04:48] <holstein> if you can give 256 to windows, you'll be alright
[04:48] <holstein> and i read that win7 is OK with that... or better than vista was at least
[04:49] <gigenieks> "256" what you mean?
[04:49] <holstein> 256mb of ram
[04:51] <gigenieks> ahh... VB splits ram with host OS (my case Kubuntu)
[04:51] <gigenieks> meaning if Kubuntu uses 700mb, Win7 will use 300?
[04:51] <holstein> right
[04:52] <holstein> that would be a good goal... 700/300
[04:52] <gigenieks> then I have another question
[04:52] <holstein> i find going 512/512 makes the host a little laggy
[04:52] <holstein> no matter the guest
[04:52] <gigenieks> Do Win7 need as much ram as "real" Win7?
[04:52] <holstein> gigenieks: thats the thing
[04:53] <holstein> this is real win7
[04:53] <holstein> as far as win7 knows, it's on hardware
[04:53] <holstein> same requirements and whatnot
[04:53] <philipballew> holstein, sorry, problems kept me away. i could try that. i have reinstalled with 3 different distros and the same result
[04:53] <gigenieks> how can I put it more clearly
[04:53] <holstein> can you get by with less ram this way
[04:53] <gigenieks> well 300mb on Win7 would be terrible :
[04:53] <holstein> and no...
[04:53] <philipballew> holstein, well save this till you finish this guy
[04:54] <philipballew> ill let the channl know what happens
[04:54] <holstein> but, i have no first hand experience of win7, so i cant say
[04:54] <gigenieks> anyway have to try
[04:54] <philipballew> win 7 has a 1 gig min req
[04:54] <holstein> you'll just have to try it... i read it was leaner again like XP was
[04:54] <holstein> philipballew: yeah? i read 256 i thought...
[04:55] <holstein> anyways, you'll find out gigenieks  :)
[04:55] <holstein> philipballew: did you ever get to the live desktop
[04:55] <holstein> ?
[04:55] <holstein> i dont think its the distro, i think its the graphics card
[04:55] <holstein> im going to guess nvidia again... but maybe not
[04:56] <philipballew> hols
[04:56] <holstein> IF you have not made it to the live desktop, i would get a 10.04 live CD... when if first cranks up, hit shift... then you'll see an F6 menu
[04:56] <philipballew> holstein, gonna try now
[04:56] <holstein> select the nomodeset option
[04:56] <philipballew> makin a usb booter
[04:56] <holstein> and see if you get to the desktop
[04:57] <holstein> im not sure if 11.04 has it, but it should
[04:57] <philipballew> i use unetbootin
[04:57] <holstein> that shouldnt matter... just getting into that option is all
[04:58] <gigenieks> ok going install see later
[04:58] <holstein> gigenieks: good luck
[04:58] <holstein> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/system-requirements
[04:59] <holstein> yeah, 1gb of ram :/
[04:59] <holstein> thats a lot... i still remember seeing 256 would work
[04:59] <philipballew> when i bought this the guy there told me
[04:59] <philipballew> i told him it was unimportand but he ouldnt listen
[05:04] <philipballew> ubuntu is like 3 something i think
[05:05] <gigenieks> VB installed fine
[05:05] <gigenieks> now I have to do some "googling"
[05:05] <gigenieks> what, how, why etc :)
[05:05] <holstein> gigenieks: start it up and look around
[05:06] <holstein> download some small iso's like gparted and try using them on a virtual machine
[05:06] <gigenieks> why not right away Win7?
[05:07] <gigenieks> P.S. opened its help
[05:07] <holstein> sure... do what you want
[05:07] <gigenieks> 266 pages
[05:07] <gigenieks> :o
[05:14] <philipballew> good news. i got the server to come up holstein
[05:14] <philipballew> bad news. forgot the password. ill figure it out
[05:14] <holstein> :/
[05:14] <holstein> its not 12345 ?
[05:14] <holstein> ;)
[05:15] <philipballew> i usually have a 18 long password but its not that. haha. might drop to a root shell and change it
[05:30] <philipballew> its scarry how easy it was to change my password
[05:31] <pleia2> physical access is always end game ;)
[05:57] <philipballew> pleia2, that must be something you know from experience, considering your job and what not
[05:59] <pleia2> yeah, it's pretty much the first thing you learn about system security
[06:01] <philipballew> i lock down my system bios. thats about all right now
[08:05] <samsul> hiiii
[08:06] <samsul> have nice connect
[08:19] <kripkorn> hello
[08:19] <oCean> hello kripkorn
[08:20] <kripkorn> i need some help
[08:20] <kripkorn> i juz install ubuntu today
[08:20] <kripkorn> everything fine
[08:20] <kripkorn> only my fonts seem sluggish
[08:44] <alvwil87> Hi there guys
[08:46] <^anhooub-it^> hello
[09:01] <alvwil87> Hey guys I relatively new to Ubuntu (I was using openSUSE and Mint before). How to I add applications to the top bar? I can't seem to find it in version 11.04
[09:03] <nit-wit> alvwil87, it is difficult look on the web for Web Ud8 links on what you want there.
[09:05] <alvwil87> thanks mate! Is it more or does 11.4 seem more cumbersome than previous editions?
[09:06] <m4n1sh> alvwil87: it is still a work in progress
[09:06] <alvwil87> cheers
[09:07] <m4n1sh> alvwil87: it is a new UI called Unity which they started nearly from scratch last year oct/nov
[09:07] <m4n1sh> so what you have in 11.04 is a product which had just 5 months to develop
[09:07] <m4n1sh> I am also using Unity 3D and waiting for it to improve. Still have hopes
[09:07] <alvwil87> I thought Unity was originally developed for the net book a year or two ago
[09:07] <m4n1sh> yes, it was developer on mutter window manager
[09:08] <m4n1sh> due to some problems of performance they moved it to compiz window manager
[09:08] <m4n1sh> effectively re-writing many parts of it
[09:09] <m4n1sh> in 11.10 you would have Unity 2D which is a less resource-hungry version of Unity
[09:09] <m4n1sh> which is  made using Qt
[09:09] <alvwil87> What is going to happen to Gnome option for users
[09:09] <m4n1sh> you mean gnome-shell?
[09:09] <m4n1sh> it would also be present in repositories in 11.10
[09:09] <m4n1sh> I am running 11.10's development version
[09:10] <m4n1sh> using Unity3D, Unity 2D and gnome-shell
[09:10] <m4n1sh> all work great
[09:10] <alvwil87> it seems like a poor cousin of unity. They haven't given it much love/attention
[09:10] <m4n1sh> alvwil87: which one? gnome-shell?
[09:10] <m4n1sh> gnome-shell has been in development for longer than unity
[09:11] <alvwil87> gnome shell
[09:11] <m4n1sh> right now it looks more stable
[09:11] <alvwil87> why did they move away from gnome in the first place
[09:11] <m4n1sh> but the speed at which devs developed unity, I am hopeful it would be awesome in next one year
[09:11] <m4n1sh> alvwil87: design differences
[09:11] <m4n1sh> anyway only the user interface - gnome-shell and unity are different
[09:11] <m4n1sh> everything below the hood is same
[09:12] <m4n1sh> you would have all the same gnome applications still present
[09:12] <m4n1sh> Ubuntu 11.10 = GNOME3 minus gnome-shell plus unity (and some more non-UI changes)
[09:13] <alvwil87> I used 10.10 - which was awesome but got disheartened when they launched unity. I moved to mint which was good but then they upgraded the edition and now it sucks also. so I'm back to square one
[09:13] <m4n1sh> Unity in 10.10 was very very slow
[09:13] <m4n1sh> I could not even use it
[09:13] <m4n1sh> 11.04 was atleast usable
[09:14] <m4n1sh> which mint were you using ? Linux Mint Debian Edition? LMDE?
[09:14] <alvwil87> really? I never really noticed. 10.04 had some technical problems from what I recall - which were then taken care of in 10.10
[09:14] <alvwil87> I was using the main edition with the gnome environment
[09:15] <m4n1sh> hmm
[09:15] <alvwil87> I think it's code name was katays
[09:15] <m4n1sh> 10.10 was pretty slow even it had more features
[09:15] <m4n1sh> anyway in 11.10 you can use any of them
[09:15] <m4n1sh> Unity 3D and Unity2D would be installed by default
[09:15] <m4n1sh> gnome-shell would be present in repos
[09:16] <alvwil87> I actually pretty impressed with unity. After hearing all the bad criticism I was expecting some more unusable than KDE
[09:19] <m4n1sh> ha ha KDE
[09:19] <m4n1sh> remember how unstable was KDE when 4.0 came out
[09:20] <m4n1sh> and when KDE 4.3 came out, they fixed most of the problems
[09:20] <m4n1sh> and it became very stable
[09:20] <m4n1sh> it re-enforced my belief that software takes time to mature
[09:20] <alvwil87> 4.6 is pretty good...not great, it still has some way to go
[09:21] <alvwil87> if/when linux becomes more main stream, I can see kde becoming one of the main contenders
[09:22] <alvwil87> Gnome 3 in it's current form is very difficult to use. It takes time to access your programs and the whole thing seems quite slow
[09:23] <m4n1sh> yeah. even I like KDE a lot
[09:23] <m4n1sh> except that sometimes I feel that their Preferences window has too many options
[09:23] <m4n1sh> it is just my view. Others can disagree
[09:27] <alvwil87> You should give openSUSE 11.4 a try. I would strongly recommend it. I don't say that lightly either I never been a great fan of KDE but that distro is so solid
[09:29] <alvwil87> ok mate, I'll see you round!
[09:47] <kripkorn> what player can play movie with srt files
[09:48] <bioterror> vlc for example
[09:51] <kripkorn> ok tq
[09:51] <oCean> kripkorn: please don't ask the same question in multiple channels
[09:52] <oCean> !crosspost
[09:52] <ubot2> Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.
[10:23] <M0hi> oCean: nice work =]
[11:19] <alvwil87> Hi there, does anybody know how I can download embedded video clips from the Internet. Is there are program I can use which will do this for me?
[11:20] <Sidewinder1> alvwil87, Take a look at "Unplug", it's a Firefox add-on.
[11:22] <alvwil87> Sidewinder1: Ok, thanks. In Ubuntu 10.10 I could just retrieve the video clip from my temp directory and save them to my drive. Why has this changed?
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> alvwil87, I have no ides why; however many web-sites don't want you to download their content so they try to do things to prevent it. Then "we" have to find a work-around. :-)
[11:26] <alvwil87> Cool, I'm just installing the plug-in now :)
[11:36] <alvwil87> Sidewinder1: I tried that extension but it doesn't seem to work. Are there any other alternatives
[11:44] <Sidewinder1> alvwil87, Perhaps here, if you haven't already looked: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/download-flash-and-video/
[13:00] <^anhooubb-it> hello
[13:46] <holstein> ^anhooubb-it: we need to have some dialog
[13:46] <holstein> would you prefer it in a PM ?
[13:48] <^anhooubb-it> ?
[13:48] <^anhooubb-it> as you prefer :-)
[13:49] <^anhooubb-it> but I need help with 10.04
[13:49] <^anhooubb-it> can I ask?
[13:49] <holstein> ^anhooubb-it: if you get a moment, check the /topic
[13:50] <chenthu> hey holstein...how r u?
[13:50] <holstein> chenthu: o/
[13:50] <chenthu> holstein: what happened to ur XP install...working?
[13:50] <chenthu> holstien: got the drivers?
[13:51] <^anhooubb-it> Don't ask to ask,ok :-)
[13:51] <^anhooubb-it> so I have some problems: 1) I have the 10.04 and when I close the laptop cover, ubuntu frosts and there's no way to unlock it, while it should just turn off the brightness of the screen 2) why the ubuntu logo with the progress bar doesn't appears anymore at the startup? 3) when I am out of gnome and I start the terminal, I can read only a small part of the text on the left, while the most of the text is not 
[13:51] <holstein> chenthu: of course :)
[13:52] <chenthu> holstien: good
[13:52] <holstein> how about your graphics issue?
[13:53] <holstein> ^anhooubb-it: sounds like you might need to look at your graphics driver too
[13:53] <chenthu> holstein: not resolved....but i wa sucessfully able to install nvidia graphics..but my desktop wouldnt load
[13:54] <holstein> i know with older hardware (older/unsupported) ^anhooubb-it, i usually disable screen/lid triggers like that
[13:54] <chenthu> holstein: but i am not worried anymore...learning a lot and still have some more plans to make it work....enjoying it though
[13:58] <^anhooubb-it> yes I have an old notebook. So I have to disable screen/lid triggers? How?
[13:58] <^anhooubb-it> How to check my graphic driver and update it?
[14:04] <holstein> ^anhooubb-it^: first, check and apply upgrades
[14:04] <^anhooubb-it^> done
[14:04] <holstein> what hardward is it?
[14:05] <^anhooubb-it^> my graphic card is SIS
[14:08] <^anhooubb-it^> can I find something in synaptic?
[14:08] <^anhooubb-it^> 'lo charlie-tca
[14:09] <holstein> ^anhooubb-it^: you already have drivers installed
[14:09] <holstein> what netbook?
[14:11] <^anhooubb-it^> notebook acer aspire 3630
[14:20] <^anhooubb-it^> I checked in synaptics and I have already installed this: xserver-xorg-video-sis (SiS display driver. the package provides the drivers for all SiS and XGI volari cards. this package is built from the x.org xf86-video-sis driver module)
[14:21] <holstein> ^anhooubb-it^: you wont break anything (AFAIK) installing that
[14:21] <holstein> it probably wont do anything though without configuring
[14:21] <holstein> i would run lspci and google 'ubuntu sis whatever'... see if you can find someone else with that issue
[14:21] <holstein> SIS is not very well supported though
[14:22] <^anhooubb-it^> AFAIK???
[14:22] <holstein> you might just have to disable sleep, and deal with it
[14:22] <holstein> AFAIK = as far as i know
[14:23] <holstein> i have one SIS GPU on a box here that i just bypass with an nvidia graphics card
[14:25] <^anhooubb-it^> ok thank you
[14:26] <holstein> ^anhooubb-it^: you should try it though... that would have been 10.04 since i tried
[14:28]  * charlie-tca by-passes SIS on his motherboard with an Nvidia card too
[14:29]  * holstein high-fives charlie-tca 
[14:29] <holstein> i was afraid the monitor was breaking when i was trying to make it work
[14:29] <stlsaint> charlie-tca: o/
[14:34] <^anhooubb-it^> how can I see what's my graph-card?
[14:35] <pedro3005> lspci maybe
[14:35] <holstein> ^anhooubb-it^: i would run in a terminal lspci
[14:36] <^anhooubb-it^> i or L?
[14:36] <holstein> lol... both
[14:36] <^anhooubb-it^> L ^^
[14:36] <holstein> *l* spc *i*
[14:36] <holstein> lspci
[14:36] <charlie-tca> LSPCI in small letters
[14:36] <holstein> ^^ just copy and paste it
[14:37] <^anhooubb-it^> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[14:37] <^anhooubb-it^> lol he don't know what's the right version xD
[14:38] <^anhooubb-it^> 661, 741, 760, 662 or 761?
[14:39] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-571530.html
[14:39] <holstein> theres an xorg.conf ^^ you could try
[14:41] <^anhooubb-it^> sorry missed the first line:
[14:41] <^anhooubb-it^> Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX Host (rev 11)
[14:41] <^anhooubb-it^> I think it is M661MX
[14:44] <^anhooubb-it^> I Can't see that page! >:-O
[14:46] <holstein> ^anhooubb-it^: your going to spend a lot of time to *maybe* get something moderately better than what you have now
[14:46] <holstein> if the graphics look ok, i say disable monitor sleep, and let SIS know you are having a hard time
[14:47] <holstein> i would also try live CD's like 11.04, and see if the support is getting better (i dought it though)
[15:44] <ubuntu_____> assalammualaikum~
[15:44] <ubuntu_____> kat sini tau tak macam mana nak betulkan GRUB..
[15:45] <ubuntu_____> yang hanya keluar memtest+  kat menu entry dia ..
[15:45] <ubuntu_____> aku pakai kubuntu 11.04..
[15:46] <ubuntu_____> hanya ada satu partition untuk kubuntu..
[15:46] <ubuntu_____> dan tiada windows..
[15:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> ubuntu_____, English
[15:47] <charlie-tca> !malay
[15:47] <ubot2> Factoid 'malay' not found
[15:47] <^anhooubb-it^> lol
[15:49] <charlie-tca> !ms
[15:49] <ubot2> Factoid 'ms' not found
[15:49] <IAmNotThatGuy> charlie-tca, what are you trying for?
[15:49] <charlie-tca> malay language
[15:50] <charlie-tca> got any ideas?
[15:50] <ubuntu_____> translation: malay--> eng
[15:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> check whether its there in http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[15:50] <ubuntu_____> peace be upon you~
[15:51] <ubuntu_____> theres anyone know how to repair the GRUB menu..
[15:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> ubuntu_____, yeah! explain your issue
[15:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> what happened?
[15:51] <ubuntu_____> only memtest+ menu entry appear..
[15:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> !grub
[15:51] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[15:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> ubuntu_____, so, you have a live CD or usb with you now? and is it 9.10 or above?
[15:52] <ubuntu_____> i just reinstalled grub menu before this cause the grub menu is missing before..
[15:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> hmmm!
[15:52] <ubuntu_____> yeah, i'm using it right now
[15:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> you missed a command called "update-grub" in terminal
[15:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> please open the terminal and type that
[15:54] <ubuntu_____> i have done that  but the output only memtest+ appear..
[15:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> hmmm! thats strange
[15:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> sudo os-prober
[15:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> whats that showing?
[15:55] <IAmNotThatGuy> ubuntu_____, I think that will fetch your Ubuntu install.
[15:56]  * IAmNotThatGuy waits
[15:57] <ubuntu_____> /dev/sda1:Ubuntu 11.04 (11.04):Ubuntu:linux
[15:58] <ubuntu_____> thats the output..
[15:58] <^anhooubb-it^> holstein : thank you but the problem is that *the 10.04 CAN'T not doing an action when the laptop cover is closed.* the possibilities are blanck screen (sleep), hybernate or suspend. So I can't disable monitor sleep without have a disconnection.
[16:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> ubuntu_____, now try sudo update-grub
[16:03] <ubuntu_____> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[16:04] <IAmNotThatGuy> ubuntu_____, give me some minutes. I have to google for that and my internet is slow like an earthworm
[16:09] <ubuntu_____> IAmNotThatGuy: okay..
[16:17] <ubuntu_____> this is my question at askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/54536/why-doesnt-grub-detect-my-installation
[16:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> Question #165881
[16:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> ubuntu_____, please look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+question/165881
[16:27]  * Geodude pulls hair out.
[16:28]  * IAmNotThatGuy helps Geodude :P
[16:29] <Geodude> Eh. It's not an ubuntu problem. It's an arch linux problem. And they are not as helpful.
[16:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> awweee! :{
[16:30] <Geodude> They're the opposite of helpful.
[16:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> hmmm!
[17:02] <AlphaPsi> Hello I was wondering to how access Ubuntu /home partition from Windows
[17:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> !imagebin
[17:16] <ubot2> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.
[18:59] <philipballew> on my duel boot system. i have Ubuntu and a Ubuntu derivative. my Ubuntu derivative requires the nomodset option to be deleted from the boot parameters. how do i make this perminent
[19:00] <bioterror> easily ;)
[19:00] <holstein> i do that in the grub file that starts with 'do not edit this file'
[19:00] <holstein> i bet bioterror knows better than me though :)
[19:00] <bioterror> $ sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[19:00] <bioterror> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[19:00] <bioterror> edit that and update-grub
[19:01] <bioterror> and reboot
[19:01] <philipballew> do i need to be booted into my system that i need to deleate the nomedset?
[19:01] <bioterror> no
[19:01] <bioterror> but I would do it
[19:01] <bioterror> otherwise you need to chroot
[19:01] <bioterror> :D
[19:02] <philipballew> alright. ill try it
[19:34] <tm2184354> How do I install ubuntu 10.04.2 on a machine with only a dvdrom on an sata raid card?
[19:39] <tm2184354> Sorry let me clarify. The machine has a sata dvdrom connected to a raid card, aand no ide dvdrom, How can I install Ubuntu 10.04.2 from that drive.
[19:39] <philipballew> usb?
[19:40] <tm2184354> The motherboard is too old to boot from usb
[19:40] <philipballew> what is the ram?
[19:40] <tm2184354> 1024 MB
[19:41] <philipballew> hows a motherboard that old and still have a gig of ram? odd. wont the dvd rom read the ubunntu cd?
[19:41] <philipballew> unless you cant boot from it
[19:42] <philipballew> then i recomend taking the hd out poping it in a case. and install from another machine
[19:43] <tm2184354> The motherboard will hold max 2gig, the dvd will read until the main install screen but wont go any further
[19:44] <tm2184354> I have the same problem if I try installing windows
[19:44] <holstein> tm2184354: i literally cant move around here without stepping on a CDrom drive right now
[19:44] <philipballew> then its not ubuntu releated as much as it may be hardware related.
[19:44] <holstein> maybe you should just look for a $2 one at a charity shop
[19:45] <philipballew> go to the dump and take one from the e waste
[19:45] <tm2184354> I may just have to do that, thanks alot
[19:45] <philipballew> it probably works, but the computer is fried
[19:45] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:45] <bioterror> try alternate?
[19:45] <bioterror> !alternate | tm2184354
[19:45] <philipballew> bioterror, i thought that, then he said windows has the same issue
[19:45] <ubot2> tm2184354: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[19:46] <philipballew> !minimal | tm2184354
[19:46] <ubot2> tm2184354: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:46] <bioterror> minimal is not having server kernel
[19:47] <bioterror> if I recall right
[19:47] <philipballew> i would recommend alt over minimal but the gig of ram can hold the default live CD just fine
[19:47] <bioterror> I will stand corrected if needed
[19:47] <philipballew> its installs the bare minimum
[19:47] <philipballew> good for building a dedicated task computer
[19:47] <tm2184354> Thanks for all the help I do appreciate it
[19:48] <philipballew> come back when you get the drive and well help if something isnt perfect with install to
[19:48] <tm2184354> I will do that and again thanks
[19:49] <bioterror> try alternate first
[19:49] <bioterror> waste one CD-R or CD-RW for me ;)
[19:50] <philipballew> never hurts bioterror
[19:53] <chenthu> can some one help me with this natty install?
[19:54] <philipballew> go for it chenthu
[19:55] <philipballew> whats up
[19:55] <chenthu> philipballew: i get display errors while installing.....
[19:56] <philipballew> what type of display errors?
[19:56] <chenthu> philipballew:  it boots upto the purpule ubuntu logo and background then it gets a scarmbled screen where it get stuck
[19:57] <philipballew> if i were you i would try installing with the alternate installer
[19:57] <philipballew> its not as fancy looking, but less graphacal and therefor might work
[19:57] <holstein> yeah, i have sent chenthu to the live CD though to try and get the graphics sorted out
[19:57] <chenthu> philipballew:  i did try that too...and got it installed...but have these errors ......  http://paste.ubuntu.com/653847/
[19:58] <holstein> since chenthu had a functional alternate install at one oint
[19:58] <holstein> point*
[19:58] <holstein> its all about the vesa driver chenthu
[19:58] <philipballew> true ^
[19:58] <chenthu> holstein: is there a seperate image for live cd?
[19:58] <holstein> i say, stop messing about, and put in an custom xorg.conf to force the vesa driver, and enjoy :)
[19:59] <holstein> that'll at least get you a desktop, and a common place to revert to
[19:59] <holstein> anyways... im running out the door... laterx
[19:59] <chenthu> holstein:  how to do that?...xorg.conf...
[19:59] <chenthu> holstein:  : oh ok...np thanks bye
[20:00] <philipballew> do you know what he ment chenthu
[20:01] <chenthu> philipballew:  yeah he said i have to replace the xorg.conf file...how to do that?
[20:01] <philipballew> uhh. ive done it once before do you have a file ready to replace it with?
[20:02] <chenthu> philipballew: nope...how to make that file?...any link?
[20:02] <philipballew> im unsure myself to be honest. you talked to him about this issue before?
[20:03] <chenthu> philipballew:  yeah....nut not abt xorg.conf?
[20:03] <chenthu> philipballew:  but will google now
[20:03] <philipballew> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=969354
[20:03] <philipballew> i googled as well
[20:04] <chenthu> philipballew:  thank you very much...will get to with the results if u are free... :)
[20:05] <philipballew> i always have time if i am loggged in :)
[20:05] <chenthu> philipballew: :)
[21:12] <philipballew> is formating my flash drive with ext4 a good idea?
[21:13] <philipballew> or is that not made for flash drives?
[21:16] <nit-wit> philipballew, should be no problem unless you want windows to see it
[21:16] <philipballew> cant remember the last time i ever needed to :)
[21:17] <nit-wit> lol
[21:19] <philipballew> can osx read ext ?
[22:17] <philipballew> how would i change the permissions of a folder and all its files from root to me?
[22:18] <joel135> hmm
[22:18] <joel135> try the command chown in a terminal
[22:19] <joel135> what is your usename?
[22:22] <philipballew> philip
[22:22] <philipballew> i need it to affect all files inside the folder
[22:25] <philipballew> i figured it out its: sudo chown -R  philip:philip
[23:46] <pirlo89> Hi, is there a way to make the google gadget sidebar to be NOT on top all the time ? because once it's clicked on, it becomes on top.