| TheMuso | ?c | 00:48 |
|---|---|---|
| TheMuso | What about gnome-tweak-tool? | 00:49 |
| TheMuso | Is it in there? | 00:49 |
| cyphermox | ohh, and I was running g-t-t just before, didn't think of looking | 00:55 |
| cyphermox | nope | 00:55 |
| TheMuso | Its a wonder the gsettings values still exist at all. :) | 01:02 |
| TheMuso | But for those who had them set, I guess migration to keep things working the way they wanted is needed. | 01:02 |
| TheMuso | Even if there is no GUI to change them. | 01:02 |
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| cyphermox | aye | 01:05 |
| cyphermox | now, | 01:05 |
| * cyphermox -> late dinner | 01:05 | |
| cyphermox | cya! | 01:05 |
| * micahg isn't sure if the lightdm dist-upgrade brokenness is due to all the new stuff that hit the archive or the lack of transitional packages... | 01:27 | |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| didrocks | good morning | 05:15 |
| TheMuso | Hey didrocks. | 05:26 |
| didrocks | hey TheMuso, how are you? | 05:26 |
| TheMuso | didrocks: Not too bad thanks, yourself? | 05:29 |
| didrocks | TheMuso: I'm find, after having refreshed 800+ of debian packages in ubuntu :) | 05:31 |
| TheMuso | Yeah I read about that., | 05:39 |
| jbicha | it doesn't look like it did too much damage though, right? | 05:40 |
| RAOF | That's a fun bug to have. Pitty soyuz doesn't have a staging, really ;) | 05:42 |
| didrocks | jbicha: no, it seems fine, apart from loosing my afternoon to proove that it didn't :) | 05:47 |
| didrocks | RAOF: the bug was not trivial, and it took me time to proof it wasn't me clicking on the wrong button | 05:47 |
| didrocks | RAOF: fortunately, I triggered the bug from the experiment, I do not want to imagine that going to production and the first one triggering the bug at beta time :) | 05:48 |
| RAOF | Yeah. That could be unfun. | 05:49 |
| xclaesse | didrocks, any idea why totem crash when opening a videa on oneiric? | 05:49 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: do you have a stacktrace? works here | 05:50 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: I tried various format without any issue | 05:51 |
| xclaesse | didrocks, http://fpaste.org/pwWw/ | 05:52 |
| xclaesse | didrocks, actually crash even if not giving any video | 05:52 |
| xclaesse | seems to be loading a python plugin | 05:53 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: indeed, seems a python plugin, do you have the bbc plugin or youtube or anything else? | 05:54 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: totem-plugins is installed there, but not totem-plugin-arte and totem-plugins-extra | 05:57 |
| xclaesse | didrocks, just disabled them all in gconf-editor, still crashing | 05:57 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: all plugins? for instance, in the totem interface, I ust have youtube enabled | 05:59 |
| xclaesse | didrocks, ok, desinstalled totem-plugins and it works | 05:59 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: hum, would be nice to find the guilty one | 05:59 |
| didrocks | so, it's not because it's not enabled for you, but at loading/seeking time | 05:59 |
| xclaesse | when loading, yes | 05:59 |
| jbicha | xclaesse: do you have gnome-video-effects installed? | 06:20 |
| seb128 | hey | 07:16 |
| BigWhale | good morning | 07:21 |
| didrocks | salut seb128! | 07:27 |
| didrocks | hey BigWhale | 07:27 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 07:27 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 07:27 |
| didrocks | I'm fine, thanks :) fighting with some libunity-core linking magic… | 07:27 |
| didrocks | and you? | 07:27 |
| seb128 | I'm great thanks | 07:28 |
| seb128 | new version is out? | 07:28 |
| didrocks | seb128: no, on current version, there is something definitively wrong | 07:28 |
| seb128 | ok | 07:28 |
| seb128 | let me know if you need a second pair of eyes on it | 07:28 |
| didrocks | hum, I like Xorg restarting when there is too much IO freezing it | 07:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: can you make a ldd on libunity-core and confirm that you don't see any linkage to libnux-core either? | 07:37 |
| xclaesse | jbicha, yes gnome-video-effects is installed | 07:37 |
| seb128 | $ ldd /usr/lib/libunity-core-4.0.so.4.0.0 | grep -i libnux | 07:37 |
| seb128 | $ | 07:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 07:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, thanks! | 07:38 |
| jbicha | xclaesse: see bug 459940, as of yesterday, g-v-e depends on frei0r | 07:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 459940 in frei0r "Launching totem when frei0r-plugins is installed shows: Could not load classifier cascade" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/459940 | 07:38 |
| xclaesse | jbicha, interesting... thx :) | 07:40 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:40 |
| seb128 | ddebs are not updated for some days | 08:40 |
| seb128 | checking... | 08:40 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:09 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 09:12 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 09:12 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you broke nautilus-sendto! ;-) | 09:12 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128, i'm good thanks | 09:12 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 09:12 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, what broke? | 09:12 |
| chrisccoulson | oh | 09:12 |
| chrisccoulson | it didn't build again! | 09:12 |
| seb128 | indeed | 09:12 |
| seb128 | you forgot a build-depends it seems | 09:13 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thanks | 09:13 |
| seb128 | trying to figure why we don't have ddebs for recent uploads | 09:13 |
| seb128 | the ddebs box had a lock from the 22th with no running process | 09:13 |
| seb128 | which I think is not good to get updates ;-) | 09:13 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i was wondering why upgrades kept removing -dbgsym packages ;) | 09:14 |
| seb128 | well the good thing is that usually we keep a week of ddebs | 09:15 |
| seb128 | so I can probably retrieve the 22 to 28 ones | 09:15 |
| seb128 | if I figure how the thing work, usually pitti handle them | 09:16 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, unity-window-decorator has crashed twice in the last minute for me | 09:18 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson, seb128; good morning | 09:22 |
| chrisccoulson | hi desrt, how are you? | 09:22 |
| seb128 | hey desrt, had a nice flight back? | 09:22 |
| desrt | pretty good | 09:22 |
| desrt | seb128: ya. did some big gmainloop changes on the plane =) | 09:22 |
| desrt | the ancient SIGCHLD race is dead | 09:23 |
| desrt | seb128: with your distributor hat on, do you have a comment on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655424 ? | 09:24 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 655424 in general "Provide a graceful restart for dconf-service" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 09:24 |
| seb128 | desrt, juil. 22 10:39:17 <seb128>desrt, what we usually do is teach to the service to do whatever is needed, like reloading, on sighup and send a sighup | 09:25 |
| seb128 | desrt, what I told you the other day :p | 09:25 |
| desrt | but it's not reloading... | 09:25 |
| desrt | that's the difference between this and a usual case | 09:25 |
| seb128 | I agree with vuntz with my distributor hat on yes | 09:25 |
| desrt | the intention is that you are instructing it to *exit* | 09:25 |
| vuntz | desrt: not reloading doesn't matter | 09:26 |
| desrt | vuntz: ohai! | 09:26 |
| vuntz | desrt: it's just not usual to do SIGTERM | 09:26 |
| desrt | vuntz: it's not usual to use SIGTERM to terminate processes? :) | 09:26 |
| vuntz | desrt: it's not usual to send SIGTERM in postinstall scripts | 09:27 |
| desrt | vuntz: right.... | 09:27 |
| desrt | but maybe that's only because purely stateless dbus services are unusual | 09:28 |
| vuntz | desrt: what about dconf-service monitoring its own file and exiting when it changed? | 09:28 |
| desrt | vuntz: sounds like something that i'd have difficult doing reliably and portably | 09:29 |
| vuntz | why? | 09:29 |
| desrt | i could use gio, i suppose | 09:29 |
| desrt | but that would notify me every time anything in libexecdir changed | 09:29 |
| vuntz | desrt: err, why? | 09:30 |
| desrt | that's how gio works | 09:30 |
| desrt | it monitors the parent directory | 09:30 |
| vuntz | but it won't notify you | 09:30 |
| desrt | well | 09:31 |
| desrt | your process wakes up | 09:31 |
| desrt | probably relatively rare in any case, though | 09:31 |
| desrt | reliably detecting your path is also slightly difficult.... but not too bad | 09:32 |
| vuntz | desrt: and you avoid stupid packagers doing mistakes! | 09:32 |
| desrt | sshd just demands that you always launch it using an absolute path :) | 09:32 |
| vuntz | desrt: I mean, do you trust people like seb128, didrocks or me? | 09:32 |
| desrt | why are all unreliable packagers french? | 09:32 |
| vuntz | desrt: not true, seb128 is german | 09:33 |
| desrt | ah. good point. | 09:33 |
| desrt | unless i wanted to say that seb128 is reliable... | 09:33 |
| vuntz | he's obviously ignoring us, which proves he's not reliable | 09:34 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:36 |
| desrt | well | 09:39 |
| desrt | there is a clear solution to this problem, for me | 09:39 |
| desrt | dconf-service will watch for and exit gracefully on sigterm, sighup and maybe some others if i'm feeling exotic | 09:40 |
| desrt | and the french and germans can do as they like | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, nautilus-sendto fixed for real this time ;) | 09:47 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, do you have time to look at bug 816377 today? :) | 09:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 816377 in xulrunner-2.0 "Please remove and blacklist source and binaries from oneiric" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/816377 | 09:53 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yes, sorry I was going to yesterday before we got the autosync issue going on | 09:57 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, no worries :) | 09:57 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 09:57 |
| seb128 | yw | 09:57 |
| seb128 | ok, fixed the ddebs! | 09:57 |
| jbicha | why is there not a buildlog for amd64 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/3.1.3-0ubuntu1 | 09:58 |
| seb128 | question for #launchpad rather | 09:59 |
| seb128 | but it's weird indeed | 09:59 |
| seb128 | we should perhaps just retry it | 09:59 |
| seb128 | bah the ddeb index update is slow | 09:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i would just retry that build | 10:03 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| chrisccoulson | perhaps someone killed it? | 10:03 |
| chrisccoulson | done | 10:03 |
| seb128 | bah, ddeb is taking ages on yesterday with the autosync run | 10:11 |
| didrocks | seb128: as you look at the retracers, have you seen a lot of unity-panel-service crashers? (apart from fta's one) | 10:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks, quite some yes but those are usually indicator issues | 10:40 |
| didrocks | it seems libdbusmenu there, yeah | 10:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, recent one for example | 10:42 |
| seb128 | bug #817352 | 10:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 817352 in unity "unity-panel-service crashed with signal 5 in _gdk_x11_display_error_event()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/817352 | 10:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, we got a bunch of weird like that | 10:42 |
| seb128 | which seem to come from unity itself not indicators | 10:43 |
| didrocks | hum, I don't have that one though | 10:43 |
| didrocks | dbusmenu -> gobject -> gtk3 -> crash | 10:43 |
| didrocks | (but don't have the updated ddebs of course ;)) | 10:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ddebs are updated now btw | 10:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how is the gnome-keyring update going? ;-) | 10:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I saw that, let's send it to launchpad then :) | 10:49 |
| didrocks | the thing is I have to chmod 0 the panel service… | 10:49 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, yeah, i should get back on to that again ;) | 10:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ;-) | 10:49 |
| ronoc | mvo, ping | 10:57 |
| ronoc | just wondering when I should complete that feature | 10:57 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: "freespeak and indiv-screenlets also depend on it" | 10:57 |
| didrocks | -> on python-gtkmozembed, right? | 10:58 |
| ronoc | mvo, no panic, when you get a chance just let me know when the transaction interface will have that property | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, that's fixed now though | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | i fixed it a couple of days ago | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | they depend on python-webkit now ;) | 10:58 |
| didrocks | nice, oh seeing your comments :) | 10:58 |
| didrocks | so, the only border line is moon, right? | 10:58 |
| didrocks | like, it still build-dep on it, but we can't rebuild it to fix the build-dep :) | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah. i talked to RAOF and we might end up just removing that | 11:02 |
| chrisccoulson | it doesn't stop it from being installable in any case, and we can't build it anyway | 11:02 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: indeed, as it's an alternative dep | 11:03 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: thanks for the detail report on the bug :) | 11:03 |
| jbicha | gnome-sudoku depends on gir1.2-gconf-2.0 but it wasn't included on today's CD | 11:11 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: all checked, removed and blacklisted | 11:15 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, excellent, thanks! | 11:16 |
| didrocks | yw :) | 11:16 |
| chrisccoulson | woohoo, i'm 5 WI's down now \o/ | 11:17 |
| didrocks | :) | 11:17 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| seb128 | jbicha, Depends: gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2), python2.7 | python2.6, python (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2), python (<< 2.8), gnome-games-common (>= 1:3.1.4-0ubuntu1), python-gobject (>= 2.10.0), gir1.2-gtk-3.0, gir1.2-launchpad-integration-3.0, gir1.2-pango-1.0 | 11:36 |
| seb128 | jbicha, sorry seems like I grabbed your vcs before you added r103 | 11:38 |
| jbicha | oh ok, I noticed that in late testing because I finally got virtualbox to work | 11:38 |
| jbicha | I think my vbox was suffering from the dkms weirdness, so I reinstalled it to get it working | 11:39 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I will fix that | 11:39 |
| jbicha | seb128: thank you! | 11:39 |
| seb128 | np, sorry for skipping that fix when I sponsored it ;-) | 11:40 |
| jbicha | I believe the ubuntu-desktop branch already has that edit | 11:41 |
| jbicha | because I checked that, didn't think that it might be different from the actual build | 11:41 |
| seb128 | no it doesn't | 11:42 |
| jbicha | especially as there's no lp:ubuntu branch for it | 11:42 |
| seb128 | did you check your own versions you merge requested? | 11:42 |
| jbicha | oh, it looks like I updated the control but not the control.in, so it was my fault | 11:42 |
| seb128 | indeed | 11:43 |
| mvo | ronoc: I send the branch for glatzor for review now, its at lp:~mvo/aptdaemon/reboot-required-property | 12:03 |
| mvo | ronoc: then there should be a property to watch for (org.debian.apt.RebootRequired) | 12:03 |
| seb128 | mvo, happy piloting! | 12:10 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, in a wee bit, need to finish something else first :/ | 12:10 |
| seb128 | mvo, no hurry, I just looked at the calendar and noticed it was you ;-) | 12:10 |
| mvo | yeah, google reminded my about it too (thanks google!) | 12:12 |
| ronoc | mvo, excellent thanks | 12:13 |
| BigWhale | seb128, kenvandine: apparently they'll fix this... http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-July/msg00048.html | 12:29 |
| === Zdra is now known as xclaesse | ||
| kenvandine | seb128, i see what you mean with the compiz modal dialogs... i can't quit gedit because the save before closing dialog is behind gedit :) | 12:43 |
| kenvandine | not optimal :) | 12:43 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:43 |
| seb128 | didn't get that bug, it's just that if you have a small gedit for example and you click save the fileselector is made to fit in gedit and there is space for content | 12:44 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, evolution hackers decided to wake up! http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-July/msg00048.html :> | 12:45 |
| kenvandine | woot | 12:45 |
| * kenvandine reads | 12:45 | |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, sounds like good progress finally | 12:46 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, want me to build the package in a ppa or something with the patch and you can give it a quick test before you take off? | 12:47 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=5236e19e45cbd98db4c153b1f82bb247eb660d4e | 12:47 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, if you want to backport to oneiric | 12:47 |
| kenvandine | or that :) | 12:47 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, how soon will this land in ubuntu when it is fixed in upstream? | 12:47 |
| kenvandine | i can do it now :) | 12:48 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, <3 | 12:48 |
| BigWhale | ppa or whatever.. I'd like to test things before I go yes | 12:48 |
| BigWhale | things at home have gone from crazy to insane ... or vice-versa ... :> | 12:49 |
| davmor2 | hey guys I get an odd issue with oneiric, if I select suspend or hibernate from the session menu it does no issues and comes back up fine, if however I close the lid I get and error reading: Failed to suspend, computer failed to suspend. Failure was reported as Sleep has already been requested and is pending. | 12:58 |
| davmor2 | I also tried restarting and closing the lid on a fresh session same thing | 12:58 |
| didrocks | reboot, brb | 12:59 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: gwibber-services have been popping up messages using notify-osd however gwibber is showing only tickets from an hour ago when I restarted the session | 12:59 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, so in the client you aren't seeing new content? | 13:00 |
| kenvandine | is it all the streams, or just one? | 13:01 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, i have noticed my replies stream not getting updates unless i restart gwibber | 13:01 |
| kenvandine | at least a couple times | 13:01 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: all stream twitter and fb, if I quit the client and reopen it, it updates | 13:01 |
| kenvandine | but all the others have currend data | 13:01 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, so no new data under any of the buttons? | 13:02 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: nope, I'll send out a message on twitter now if you reply I screenshot it and you see give me 5 | 13:03 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, no need | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | it is probably the same problem i am seeing | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | mine is just limited to one stream | 13:04 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: the other thing I notice too is the behaviour of the Home stream, it used to show everything but now it only shows replies | 13:05 |
| kenvandine | oh... that is interesting | 13:05 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i was just wondering where seb128 went ;) | 13:05 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, do you want to review p11-kit in a bit? | 13:06 |
| seb128 | sure! | 13:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess i'll need to do a MIR for that too | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, i'll look at that too, do you have more than one account? | 13:06 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: twitter and fb | 13:06 |
| seb128 | sorry seems like my dsl reconnected, which I didn't notice but IRC doesn't like ip changes | 13:06 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: one of each :) | 13:06 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, ok, i've just uploaded that now | 13:08 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i just noticed that the maintainer address is wrong ;) | 13:08 |
| seb128 | great, next run is in 2 minutes, I will get it once it's in the queue | 13:08 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 13:09 |
| chrisccoulson | there should be a lintian warning for malformed maintainer addresses in debian/control ;) | 13:09 |
| chrisccoulson | it complained about the same problem in the changes file | 13:09 |
| glatzor | mvo, hello | 13:09 |
| glatzor | I just merged your reboot required branch | 13:09 |
| glatzor | mvo, is there still a need for the unity integration? | 13:10 |
| mvo | glatzor: \o/ thanks! ronoc is there more required beside the reboot required property | 13:11 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, can you reject that so i can fix the maintainer address? | 13:14 |
| jbicha | seb128: are you sure that gobject-introspection needs a new pygobject? | 13:14 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, done | 13:15 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, thanks. will reupload again now | 13:15 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do we need http://cgit.freedesktop.org/p11-glue/p11-kit/commit/?id=3bb86b72ca5882b1e5684db837c75df810f283c3 ? | 13:16 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i don't think so. it looks like the resulting pkgconfig file has the correctly expanded values | 13:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i think ${prefix} is empty isn't it? | 13:18 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, hang on | 13:18 |
| seb128 | jbicha, not sure no, somebody mentioned it yesterday on their channel that a pygobject update was required after the invoke-rewrite merge but I didn't check | 13:18 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, no, i think it's fine | 13:19 |
| chrisccoulson | teh pkgconfig file has "p11_system_conf=/etc/pkcs11/pkcs11.conf" | 13:19 |
| seb128 | ok great | 13:19 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, ok, that's uploaded again now | 13:20 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, " components orlibraries living in the same process." | 13:20 |
| seb128 | there is a space missing after "or" | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, are you on amd64? | 13:21 |
| seb128 | (detail) | 13:21 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 13:21 |
| chrisccoulson | that's a website bug ;) | 13:21 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:21 |
| chrisccoulson | i copied it straight from there | 13:21 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh, please use .symbols, mterry will block the mir if there is none ;-) | 13:22 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, i totally forgot to add them ;) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you want to do a new revision for the fixes? | 13:23 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, can do | 13:23 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, or should I just drop that upload and you fix it with a new one? | 13:23 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it's up to you. it probably doesn't make any difference either way. if you approve it, i can just upload a new revision | 13:23 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:23 |
| seb128 | let me finish the review | 13:23 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you don't install the api documentation | 13:23 |
| seb128 | you should put it in the dev | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | do we normally do that? | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i wasn't sure if it mattered or not | 13:24 |
| seb128 | sometimes yes | 13:24 |
| seb128 | sometimes we create a new binary | 13:24 |
| * mterry hearts .symbols | 13:24 | |
| seb128 | I would just put it in the dev ;-) | 13:24 |
| seb128 | hey mterry | 13:24 |
| seb128 | mterry, new mir work coming your way in a bit ;-) | 13:24 |
| mterry | seb128, hello! | 13:24 |
| mterry | darn it | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, i've added the symbols | 13:26 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, trying to read mterry's mir review I think he will want make check to be run during the build | 13:29 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:29 |
| mterry | :) | 13:29 |
| mterry | if there are tests, yeah | 13:29 |
| mterry | seb128, you should just write a bot to do my MIRs | 13:30 |
| seb128 | lol | 13:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, don't try to slack away! | 13:31 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it runs already ;) | 13:31 |
| chrisccoulson | dh_auto_test runs it | 13:31 |
| seb128 | oh, clever | 13:31 |
| seb128 | the new dh system seems nice ;-) | 13:31 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 13:31 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i've got a new revision here with symbols and the documentation installed | 13:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, NEWed | 13:36 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, excellent, thanks | 13:36 |
| seb128 | thank you for working on it ;-) | 13:36 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, yes | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | http://ubuntuone.com/p/16dh/ | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | http://ubuntuone.com/p/16dj/ | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, ^^ | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | those two debs should be all you need | 13:52 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, tedg: I've put some comments on the libindicate gtk3 merge request | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | cool | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | i am looking at that right now too | 14:11 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, ok, will try | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, cool, thx | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, let me know if it helps at all... i'll hold off uploading to oneiric | 14:26 |
| seb128 | $ evolution | 14:32 |
| seb128 | ** (evolution:1074): CRITICAL **: categories_icon_theme_hack: assertion `filename != NULL && *filename != '\0'' failed | 14:32 |
| seb128 | (evolution:1074): evolution-shell-CRITICAL **: shell_settings_pspec_for_key: assertion `schema_name != NULL' failed | 14:32 |
| seb128 | Erreur de segmentation (core dumped) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | bah | 14:32 |
| seb128 | go evo go | 14:32 |
| seb128 | it works if I run it in gdb though | 14:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: time to switch to thunderbird? :) | 14:35 |
| seb128 | can I edit my calendar there? ;-) | 14:35 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum, depends on which calendar your are talking about :-) | 14:35 |
| didrocks | the one in a papersheet, yeah ;) | 14:36 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 14:36 |
| didrocks | ok, early evening, need to see the doctor. Will check my emails later | 14:45 |
| didrocks | see you tomorrow :) | 14:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, see you | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | good night didrocks | 14:46 |
| seb128 | let's see if he gets glasses ;-) | 14:46 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, it seems I am running into some dependency problems... let me update/upgrade | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, i need to drop offline for a little bit | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | should be back on in 15m or so... | 14:51 |
| BigWhale | ok | 14:52 |
| kenvandine | but if i am not, drop me a mail so i know to upload or not :) | 14:52 |
| kenvandine | bbiab | 14:52 |
| jaytaoko | Hello | 14:53 |
| jaytaoko | I need help with lightdm | 14:53 |
| seb128 | jaytaoko, yes? | 14:53 |
| jaytaoko | After upgrading my system, lightdm does not show up | 14:54 |
| jaytaoko | seb128: my screen is black | 14:54 |
| seb128 | jaytaoko, switch to a vt and install lightdm-gtk-greeter | 14:54 |
| jaytaoko | seb128: I did that, following didrocks advice | 14:55 |
| jaytaoko | seb128: I also installed lightdm-gtk-greeter-example | 14:55 |
| seb128 | jaytaoko, on what version of ubuntu are you? | 14:55 |
| seb128 | you shouldn't be able to install lightdm-gtk-greeter-example | 14:55 |
| seb128 | that's deprecated | 14:55 |
| seb128 | it conflicts with the new lightdm | 14:55 |
| jaytaoko | seb128: oneiric | 14:55 |
| seb128 | jaytaoko, dpkg -l | grep lightdm? | 14:56 |
| jaytaoko | seb128: I see liblightdm-gobject-0-0, liblightdm-gobject-1-0, lightdm, lightdm-greeter-example-gtk, lightdm-gtk-greeter | 14:58 |
| seb128 | jaytaoko, what greeter did you use before? | 14:58 |
| seb128 | jaytaoko, are those all on 0.9.2 versions? | 14:58 |
| jaytaoko | seb128: I installed lightdm-greeter-example-gtk because lightdm.log was reporting it couldn't find example-greeter-gtk or something like that | 15:02 |
| micahg | seb128: your fix is still not working, I'm rebasing my change on your upload now | 15:11 |
| seb128 | micahg, how so? | 15:14 |
| seb128 | micahg, what error do you get? | 15:14 |
| micahg | seb128: apt can't resolve the dependency chain and wants to remove lightdm and the meta package requiring it | 15:15 |
| seb128 | micahg, it doesn't make any sense | 15:15 |
| seb128 | can you check with mvo? | 15:15 |
| micahg | that's true | 15:15 |
| seb128 | why would it remove lightdm rather than install a greeter? | 15:15 |
| micahg | but I think this is why most packages provide transitional upgrades to new binaries | 15:15 |
| seb128 | no | 15:16 |
| seb128 | transitional packages are because provides are not versioned | 15:16 |
| seb128 | mvo, there? | 15:17 |
| ricotz | seb128, hello | 15:17 |
| micahg | well, when mvo has a minute, I'm happy to debug, I have the system still here with lightdm 0.4.3 to test with | 15:17 |
| seb128 | hey ricotz | 15:17 |
| ricotz | do you mind having a short look at the package structure of cogl http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/clutter-cogl/ | 15:17 |
| mvo | hello seb128 and micahg | 15:18 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, is it working? | 15:18 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey | 15:18 |
| micahg | mvo: hi | 15:18 |
| seb128 | mvo, micahg is having lightdm upgrade issues | 15:18 |
| seb128 | summary of the situations is | 15:19 |
| BigWhale | seb128, there are some dependencies missing | 15:19 |
| seb128 | we have 0.4.3 | 15:19 |
| BigWhale | gir1.2-ebook-1.2 depends on gir1.2-edataserver-1.2 (= 3.1.4-0ubuntu2); however: | 15:19 |
| BigWhale | Version of gir1.2-edataserver-1.2 on system is 3.1.4-0ubuntu1. | 15:19 |
| BigWhale | d | 15:19 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, ken says he will just upload | 15:20 |
| seb128 | mvo, ok, so sorry got sidetracked | 15:20 |
| seb128 | 0.4.3 | 15:20 |
| seb128 | lightdm: recommends lightdm-greeter and lightdm-example-gtk-greeter installed which provided it | 15:21 |
| seb128 | i.e you had 0.4.3 with lightdm and lightdm-example-gtk-greeter installed | 15:21 |
| seb128 | 0.9.2 now | 15:21 |
| seb128 | the greeter got renamed lightdm-gtk-greeter | 15:22 |
| seb128 | we made lightdm Depends on lightdm-gtk-greeter | lightdm-greeter | 15:22 |
| seb128 | (lightdm-greeter is a virtual package that all greeters provides) | 15:22 |
| seb128 | and conflicts with the old lib soname which lightdm-example-gtk-greeter depended on | 15:22 |
| seb128 | mvo, why would on a dist-upgrade apt prefer to remove lightdm than to install lightdm-gtk-greeter? | 15:23 |
| mvo | what is the output of -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true and -o Debug::pkgDepCache::AutoInstall=true when this happens? | 15:23 |
| mvo | does this happen on oneiric -> oneiric only? if so, what do I have to do to reproduce? | 15:23 |
| micahg | oneiric-> oneiric, alpha2 to now upgrade should show it | 15:24 |
| BigWhale | seb128, ok... I'll wait and do an upgrade | 15:25 |
| mvo | micahg: let me try | 15:26 |
| mvo | micahg: or can you provide me with the debug output? | 15:27 |
| micahg | mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/653853/ | 15:28 |
| mvo | thanks micahg I can partly reproduce it from a older livecd | 15:30 |
| seb128 | micahg, oh, you have xubuntu-desktop which depends on lightdm-greeter-example-gtk, | 15:31 |
| seb128 | mvo, ^ | 15:31 |
| seb128 | that's broken | 15:31 |
| mvo | aha! | 15:31 |
| seb128 | xubuntu-desktop needs to be updated to depends on an existent binary | 15:31 |
| mvo | apt is never wrong :p | 15:31 |
| micahg | oh, wait, I know what part of my problem is, I just saw that, I can fix that part, but the new greeter provides the old binary | 15:31 |
| micahg | mvo: ^^ wouldn't the provides work on the upgrade here | 15:31 |
| * micahg goes to fix xubuntu-desktop | 15:32 | |
| chrisccoulson | g'ah, having no JS debugger for firefox totally sucks | 15:32 |
| mvo | micahg: it should I think, but let me look in more detail whats going on | 15:34 |
| seb128 | micahg, mvo: one issue is that the package was real and it's a provide now and provides are not versioned | 15:35 |
| seb128 | so I'm not sure how it plays with apt | 15:35 |
| mvo | seb128: it looks like part of the probem is that the new lightdm conflicts on liblightdm-gobject-0-0 and the old -example-gtk greeter depends on that one, so apt sees that it needs a greeter but the installed one conflicts with the new version. this is why its held back in my test vm it seems | 15:39 |
| seb128 | well, held back is fine | 15:39 |
| seb128 | can we nudge it to install the new greeter? | 15:39 |
| mvo | hold on a sec, I try to figure out more | 15:40 |
| seb128 | ricotz, what sort of comments do you want on cogl? | 15:45 |
| ricotz | seb128, things like the package naming | 15:45 |
| ricotz | i uploaded the binaries too | 15:46 |
| ricotz | so you can see the lib names | 15:46 |
| seb128 | ricotz, the naming and debs seem fine | 15:47 |
| ricotz | the cogl symbol removal from libclutter-1.0-0 should be no harm for transitional things | 15:47 |
| ricotz | i disabled quite some patches and moved two from clutter to cogl | 15:49 |
| mvo | seb128: hm, I need to look more into it, sorry that I don't see a immediate solution, I'm sure I'm overlooking something | 15:49 |
| mvo | seb128: I need to go for early dinner today, I check tomorrow morning | 15:50 |
| seb128 | mvo, no hurry, have fun, see you tomorrow | 15:51 |
| seb128 | ricotz, ok | 15:51 |
| ricotz | brb | 15:53 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, kenvandine, kenvandine ! | 15:59 |
| BigWhale | dependencies failed :> | 15:59 |
| BigWhale | gir1.2-ebook-1.2 depends on gir1.2-edataserver-1.2 (= 3.1.4-0ubuntu2); however: | 16:00 |
| BigWhale | Version of gir1.2-edataserver-1.2 on system is 3.1.4-0ubuntu1. | 16:00 |
| BigWhale | I guess I'll need everything related to eds | 16:00 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, yeah, seb128 told me | 16:03 |
| seb128 | wb kenvandine | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | i uploaded to oneiric, but it is still waiting to build | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, i'll get you the rest of the debs | 16:03 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, ok... I'll wait... :) | 16:03 |
| seb128 | you can probably dpkg -i --force-depends the one you got | 16:04 |
| seb128 | then fix with an apt-get -f install later | 16:04 |
| BigWhale | I have to leave for an hour or so... | 16:04 |
| BigWhale | just msg me or something | 16:04 |
| seb128 | well, just unpack the deb locally otherwise | 16:04 |
| seb128 | dpkg-deb -x gir... dir | 16:04 |
| seb128 | then copy the file over the system on | 16:04 |
| seb128 | one | 16:04 |
| BigWhale | just the gir file is needed? really? | 16:05 |
| BigWhale | wow | 16:06 |
| seb128 | the typelib rather which is in the gir binary | 16:06 |
| * BigWhale slaps himself because he didn't think of force depends... | 16:06 | |
| micahg | seb128: new xubuntu-meta uploaded, sorry for the wild goose chase | 16:10 |
| kenvandine | http://ubuntuone.com/p/16fP/ | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, ^^ | 16:11 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, there were some errors.. let me check | 16:13 |
| BigWhale | Package libgtk-3-dev is not installed. | 16:13 |
| BigWhale | ok nothing too bad | 16:14 |
| seb128 | re | 16:49 |
| seb128 | jbicha, there? | 16:49 |
| jbicha | seb128: yes | 16:49 |
| seb128 | jbicha, is the ssdpd client required or is only the library required in that binary? | 16:50 |
| seb128 | looking at lp:~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/miniupnpc/drop-minissdpd-recommends | 16:50 |
| seb128 | seems wrong that the library and dev have a recommends to start, it should benefit only the client itself? or is the library enhenced by it? | 16:51 |
| jbicha | it's enhanced, according to http://miniupnp.free.fr/minissdpd.html | 16:52 |
| jbicha | "Recent versions of MiniUPnPd and MiniUPnPc are designed to take automaticaly advantage of MiniSSDPd running on the same computer." | 16:52 |
| seb128 | well, the library? | 16:52 |
| seb128 | or the client? | 16:52 |
| seb128 | or both? | 16:52 |
| seb128 | it seems wrong that the recommends is there on each binary to start | 16:52 |
| seb128 | it should either be on the client or on the library | 16:53 |
| jbicha | yes it is weird, but maybe it enhances both? | 16:53 |
| seb128 | ok, I was asking if you knew exactly | 16:54 |
| seb128 | we should check ;-) | 16:54 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:54 |
| jbicha | no, all I know is from reading the dev's homepage | 16:54 |
| didrocks | hey ;) | 16:56 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hey, so did you win glasses or not? ;-) | 16:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I won glasses and so, loose money :) | 16:58 |
| didrocks | clearly it's because "I work too much" :-) | 16:59 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, that's because you should stop looking at screens after work | 16:59 |
| didrocks | I even had to time to go to the glasses shop to order some! | 16:59 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 16:59 |
| seb128 | nice | 16:59 |
| didrocks | seb128: ahah, they are not that close :) | 16:59 |
| didrocks | will be handy anyway | 17:00 |
| didrocks | seb128: btw, if you got a minute to review the libunity-2d-private-dev packages in NEW | 17:02 |
| jbicha | seb128: I'm trying to build gnome-games with the new vala-0.14 but it gets stuck at AM_PROG_VALAC([0.13.0]) | 17:05 |
| jbicha | it looks at /usr/bin/valac and sees that it's not 0.13.0 or higher | 17:05 |
| didrocks | jbicha: /usr/bin/valac is an alternative | 17:06 |
| didrocks | jbicha: it should point to 0.12 I gues if both vala is installed for you | 17:06 |
| jbicha | ok, well valac --version returns Vala 0.12.1 | 17:07 |
| didrocks | indeed :) | 17:07 |
| didrocks | jbicha: do you have both vala installed? | 17:07 |
| didrocks | in that case, update-alternatives --config valac | 17:07 |
| jbicha | so it works if I uninstall the other one | 17:07 |
| didrocks | and choose the 0.14 | 17:07 |
| didrocks | jbicha: no need, just choose it with the above command ^^ | 17:08 |
| didrocks | and then, confirm with valac --version | 17:08 |
| didrocks | (the builder doesn't have the issue as you normally just install one vala version) | 17:08 |
| jbicha | ok, got it | 17:08 |
| jbicha | it's still going to cause problems though when someone tries to run a vala-0.14 app, right? | 17:12 |
| jbicha | I don't think the developers expect users to have 2 different vala on their computer | 17:12 |
| jbicha | blames robert_ancell for causing problems ;-) | 17:13 |
| ricotz | the alternatives priority of vala-0.14 should be bumped a bit, e.g. from 85 to 90 | 17:14 |
| seb128 | why? | 17:15 |
| seb128 | we don't want to default | 17:15 |
| seb128 | jbicha, well most softwares using vala use it at build time to compile C | 17:15 |
| seb128 | they don't use it at runtime | 17:15 |
| seb128 | so build-depends on the right version should work | 17:15 |
| seb128 | the buildds will get only that version | 17:15 |
| jbicha | oh, I didn't know that | 17:15 |
| ricotz | mhh, but if you install it i think it should be default | 17:16 |
| seb128 | ricotz, I think the stable serie should be default | 17:16 |
| seb128 | .1 in an unstable serie is a bit early to make it defaul | 17:16 |
| seb128 | if you like it you can set the default alternative on your system though | 17:16 |
| ricotz | right, so the upload overrules vala-0.12 already | 17:16 |
| ricotz | just saw you used a new package name | 17:17 |
| jbicha | won't vala 0.14 be out by release date? Fedora switched to vala-0.13 by default | 17:17 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it should | 17:17 |
| ricotz | jbicha, i still has some issues | 17:17 |
| seb128 | still I would prefer if we try to build a few things like shotwell with it before switching defaults | 17:17 |
| ricotz | it* | 17:17 |
| seb128 | we got bitten in the past by switching too early | 17:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, can do | 17:18 |
| jbicha | ok, we're not Rawhide :-) | 17:18 |
| seb128 | no, we are not ;-) | 17:18 |
| * kenvandine is scared to try it | 17:18 | |
| ricotz | so an upload without providing vala-dev would be better | 17:19 |
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| didrocks | seb128: thanks! :) | 17:20 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yw | 17:20 |
| seb128 | ricotz, there is no vala-dev in that upload | 17:21 |
| ricotz | vala-0.14-dev provides vala-dev | 17:21 |
| seb128 | right, why is what you want | 17:22 |
| seb128 | it allows people who want to try use the new version as their default to do it | 17:22 |
| seb128 | why->which | 17:22 |
| ricotz | removing this will prevent pulling it in by default for build-deps, if there is still trouble with it | 17:22 |
| seb128 | hum | 17:24 |
| seb128 | well let's see if there are some practical issues | 17:24 |
| ricotz | people who wants to try it can explicitly choose vala-0.14-dev | 17:24 |
| seb128 | it's not going to be pulled in by anything in main since it's in universe | 17:24 |
| ricotz | ok | 17:24 |
| seb128 | well they will get a missing build-depends if they try something build-depends on the non versioned name | 17:24 |
| ricotz | mhh, so it could be a problem | 17:25 |
| seb128 | let's see if we get any practical issue with what we have now | 17:25 |
| seb128 | it should be mostly ok | 17:25 |
| seb128 | I'm fine changing it if needed | 17:26 |
| ricotz | i dont recall, but since 0.13.1 there were quite some bugs | 17:26 |
| ricotz | ok, lets see | 17:26 |
| jbicha | seb128: do you want a new merge proposal for gnome-games then, or reuse the old one? | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | seb128, is there a known problem with the buildds and glib? | 17:36 |
| kenvandine | Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0 ... | 17:36 |
| kenvandine | Unable to open directory /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gio/modules: Error opening directory '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gio/modules': No such file or directory | 17:36 |
| === cking is now known as cking-afk | ||
| seb128 | jbicha, old one is fine thanks | 17:48 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, not known | 17:48 |
| jbicha | https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/gnome-games/gnome-games-3.1.4/+merge/69384 | 17:48 |
| seb128 | thanks | 17:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha, will look at it later | 17:48 |
| seb128 | dinner time ;-) | 17:48 |
| jbicha | sure, no hurry | 17:48 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, there's a change... :> | 17:51 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, i guess that is something :) | 17:53 |
| BigWhale | well.. it's a change... http://pastebin.com/ZL64X4BA | 17:53 |
| BigWhale | just not all that good... :> | 17:53 |
| BigWhale | but I am glad things are moving forward :) | 17:53 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, looking in git, that same guy had several commits after the patch i applied that all seem somewhat related | 18:05 |
| kenvandine | annotations related to getting the client | 18:05 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, oh | 18:06 |
| kenvandine | i guess i need to apply all of them :) | 18:07 |
| BigWhale | "It compiles, ship it!" | 18:07 |
| BigWhale | :> | 18:07 |
| didrocks | have a good night everyone | 18:17 |
| dobey | ugh. why doesn't Gtk.ResponseType.foo work right | 18:18 |
| dobey | exceptions.AttributeError: type object 'GtkResponseType' has no attribute 'ok' | 18:18 |
| dobey | oh | 18:20 |
| dobey | because they're actually capitalized in the API, but in the .gir they are lowercase | 18:20 |
| dobey | Gtk.STOCK_GRRRR | 18:20 |
| jbicha | yeah, the capitalization & punctuation confuses me too | 18:21 |
| seb128 | jbicha, in fact I'm going to keep your update out for a bit | 18:40 |
| seb128 | jbicha, the new vala is in universe only for now | 18:40 |
| seb128 | jbicha, we don't need a mir review but we should probably support one vala version at the time so I'm going to delay a bit until the next meeting so we can discuss what versions we want to support and the timing to promote,demote those | 18:41 |
| jbicha | seb128: ok, it's all robert ancell's fault with sudoku & simple-scan anyway ;-) | 18:42 |
| seb128 | indeed! | 18:42 |
| seb128 | he broke things and then ran away in holidays ;-) | 18:42 |
| seb128 | the second one will be a reason to use the new vala as well though | 18:42 |
| seb128 | especially that the new version switched to gtk3 and gsettings | 18:43 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you need to try again ;-) | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | seb128, will do | 18:44 |
| kenvandine | e-d-s built fine | 18:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, to use autoreconf you need a build-depends on dh-autoreconf ;-) | 18:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sorry I was talking about indicator-power | 18:44 |
| kenvandine | sigh... | 18:44 |
| seb128 | "dh: unable to load addon autoreconf: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/autoreconf.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.12.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.12.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.12 /usr/share/perl/5.12 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 23) line 2." | 18:44 |
| kenvandine | :) | 18:44 |
| kenvandine | that is better than the previous failure :) | 18:44 |
| jbicha | is everyone going on holiday now? | 18:45 |
| seb128 | no | 18:45 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, http://ubuntuone.com/p/16fP/ | 18:45 |
| seb128 | well kenvandine soon I think | 18:45 |
| kenvandine | same url, but an updated tarball with new debs | 18:45 |
| kenvandine | september | 18:45 |
| seb128 | but by the time I'm off pitti and robert_ancell will be back | 18:45 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, didn't you say you wouldn't be at desktop summit because of holidays? | 18:45 |
| seb128 | I'm getting confused ;-) | 18:46 |
| kenvandine | not strictly because of it | 18:46 |
| seb128 | jbicha, well anyway there is a turn over, we should always have some people online ;-) | 18:46 |
| kenvandine | but they are close... didn't want to be gone that close together | 18:47 |
| kenvandine | i am leaving beginning of sept | 18:47 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, yeah, makes sense | 18:47 |
| seb128 | good, you can cover for all the people slack^working at the summit | 18:47 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 18:47 |
| kenvandine | yup :) | 18:47 |
| seb128 | why is evolution such a piece of crap software? | 18:49 |
| seb128 | it's only working under gdb since the update | 18:49 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, you also need https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/3.1.4-0ubuntu3/+build/2653940/+files/evolution-data-server-common_3.1.4-0ubuntu3_all.deb | 18:49 |
| pedro_ | seb128, time to move to thunderbird? :-P | 18:50 |
| pedro_ | seb128, i'm using it + google for calendaring, got a bit tired of evolution being broken from time to time | 18:50 |
| kenvandine | pedro_, i want my calendars in eds though | 18:51 |
| kenvandine | they aren't very useful if they aren't | 18:51 |
| pedro_ | kenvandine, well yeah... | 18:51 |
| kenvandine | :/ | 18:51 |
| seb128 | yeah, I should switch to tb, if I do maybe chrisccoulson will pay me a beer at UDS as well or something ;-) | 18:52 |
| seb128 | would be a double win ;-) | 18:52 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it depends on how many bugs you report ;) | 18:53 |
| chrisccoulson | more bugs = less beer | 18:53 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 18:53 |
| seb128 | not fair! | 18:53 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks is already at zero beer | 18:53 |
| pedro_ | lol | 18:53 |
| seb128 | that's fine, he drinks enough :p | 18:53 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 18:54 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey | 19:02 |
| mterry | seb128, hello! | 19:03 |
| seb128 | mterry, do you follow the transmission mirs and tweaks needed? | 19:03 |
| seb128 | or should that be on the team list? | 19:03 |
| mterry | seb128, a bit. I reviewed several of them | 19:03 |
| seb128 | like https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/miniupnpc/drop-minissdpd-recommends/+merge/69618 | 19:03 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah, I noticed that branch today. I saw you commented and was going to check again later for a response | 19:03 |
| seb128 | mterry, or said differently "will you sort it, or should I try to have a look to understand why a bittorent client try to bring on services" | 19:03 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, I probably need to restart evolution, right? | 19:04 |
| seb128 | I've not looked at it but that seems a bit much for a bittorent client | 19:04 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, doubt it | 19:04 |
| kenvandine | it is just changing the annotations for the API | 19:04 |
| jbicha | transmission doesn't ship minissdpd, that was the Debian packaging based on the original author's recommendation | 19:05 |
| mterry | seb128, :) my understanding is that one of these new libraries supports a service like upnp, but that per-spec, upnp things all have to listen to same port. So this daemon is a proxy for that port and listens on behalf of all clients | 19:05 |
| mterry | seb128, not necessary, but makes such upnp support better (so it's not a race to the port) | 19:05 |
| seb128 | why does a bittorent client need to do upnp? | 19:05 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, these TRANSFER_NOTHING warnings look kind of like I am getting one per result of the query | 19:05 |
| seb128 | it's the goal to download things? | 19:05 |
| mterry | seb128, that I don't know :) | 19:05 |
| seb128 | ok | 19:05 |
| seb128 | mterry, well, will you look at it or should I put that on my todo? ;-) | 19:05 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm just trying to make sure somebody looks at sorting it ;-) | 19:06 |
| jbicha | because downloading torrents can have problems in nat setups which is a lot of home users | 19:06 |
| mterry | seb128, I can grab it | 19:06 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, I have only one record in the contacts... :> | 19:06 |
| BigWhale | let me see | 19:06 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks, it's yours then | 19:06 |
| mterry | jbicha, is it sufficient to just not ship the daemon? how bad an experience would that give users? | 19:06 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok, I guess I don't understand how upnp fixes that issue | 19:07 |
| seb128 | but I think such setups are "corner cases" | 19:07 |
| seb128 | i.e over what our default install target | 19:07 |
| seb128 | those users can install an upnp stack if they need it | 19:07 |
| jbicha | upnp is supposed to magically cross through the nat firewall | 19:07 |
| seb128 | well is the lib doing that? or does it need a running service? | 19:08 |
| jbicha | mterry: I think not shipping only creates an issue if a computer has more than 1 vino or transmission instance going | 19:08 |
| seb128 | then I'm not sure what the upnpc thing do | 19:08 |
| jbicha | which should be discouraged anyway | 19:08 |
| jbicha | the daemon was so that more than 1 app (or instance of that app) could use the same port | 19:09 |
| jbicha | but neither transmission nor vino ship minissdpd, but they do ship miniupnpc | 19:10 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, you're right | 19:10 |
| BigWhale | warning for each hit in the database | 19:10 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, so i think the next bug is annotations for the resulting record | 19:11 |
| BigWhale | if there are no hits, get_contacts_sync() wont core dump.. So, I guess there's still an issue with copying the data | 19:11 |
| mterry | seb128, jbicha: so that sounds like a reasonable use case (though I don't know details of magically getting around nat). But easy enough to drop the daemon. jbicha, could you update your branch to use Suggests instead of just dropping the Recommends? | 19:11 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, brb... (inlaws visiting...) | 19:11 |
| jbicha | mterry: suggests for both the client & library, right? | 19:12 |
| DBO | hey guys... | 19:13 |
| DBO | why does gnome-session sometimes spam the crap out of dbus with evolution calendar crap? | 19:13 |
| DBO | its kind of annoying | 19:13 |
| mterry | jbicha, I guess? It was recommends before. Again, not sure why both need them, but it's not terribly important that Suggests are perfect | 19:13 |
| seb128 | DBO, it doesn't | 19:14 |
| DBO | mine does | 19:15 |
| seb128 | DBO, it's likely that indicator-datetime is doing it | 19:15 |
| seb128 | DBO, talk to ted | 19:15 |
| DBO | seb128, roger roger :) | 19:15 |
| seb128 | well, we got bugs about indicator-datetime doing it | 19:15 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson mentioned that before I think | 19:15 |
| seb128 | not sure if he debugged it though | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | i didn't have much chance | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | but, from what i saw, e-calendar-factory spams the session bus with bazillions of "opened" signals | 19:17 |
| jbicha | mterry: done | 19:17 |
| DBO | is it a bad time to upgrade now? | 19:20 |
| seb128 | no | 19:20 |
| DBO | dist-upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-desktop | 19:20 |
| mterry | jbicha, is there a reason you left the recommends on the -dev package? | 19:22 |
| jbicha | mterry: no, I just didn't look close enough, pushed again | 19:23 |
| mterry | jbicha, merged, thanks! | 19:26 |
| mterry | also closed out the mir for it | 19:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you won this time, it build! | 19:28 |
| kenvandine | :) | 19:29 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, yeah, the problem is with the result. | 19:34 |
| kenvandine | i think that list contains references to a #EContact | 19:39 |
| kenvandine | which must not have the right transfer or something | 19:39 |
| seb128 | reply to the list email with your current issue | 19:40 |
| BigWhale | I also tried contacts = GLib.SList() | 19:40 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, yeah, that isn't the issue | 19:40 |
| BigWhale | since the gir file has SList as an out parameter | 19:40 |
| kenvandine | it is the contents of the list | 19:40 |
| kenvandine | trying to access the contents of the list causes the crash | 19:41 |
| BigWhale | is evolution now fixed or still sending out empty emails? :) | 19:41 |
| kenvandine | i didn't know it was sending empty mails! | 19:41 |
| * kenvandine hopes he hasn't done that to anyone :) | 19:41 | |
| BigWhale | yeah it used to, not sure now.. I switched to thunderbird in the mean time | 19:42 |
| BigWhale | (now that's broken too... :> ) | 19:42 |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, I sent mail with an update to the evolution-hackers list... now putting kids to bed... later | 19:46 |
| kenvandine | later! | 19:47 |
| dobey | hrmm | 19:47 |
| dobey | i wonder if there is a way to force loading of Gtk-2.0 with Python and gi.repository | 19:47 |
| kenvandine | dobey, yes | 19:50 |
| kenvandine | gi.module.gi.require_version ("Gtk", "2.0") | 19:51 |
| kenvandine | then | 19:51 |
| kenvandine | from gi.repository import Gtk | 19:51 |
| dobey | ah | 19:51 |
| kenvandine | in know... easily discoverable :) | 19:51 |
| dobey | yeah, just ran across that in an obscure mailing list thread | 19:52 |
| dobey | now to figure out when i should actually do that | 19:55 |
| dobey | meh, aptdaemon.client doesn't have a simple "at_least_version(package, '1.2.3')" sort of thing :( | 20:47 |
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