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micahghooray, thanks to the sync, we now have more FTBFS bugs than before :(00:20
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ajmitchmicahg: think of it as an opportunity :)00:31
ajmitchat least it could close a few "please upgrade" bugs00:31
micahgheh, yeah, but it makes it just that much harder for us to get that list down by release time :)00:32
ajmitchsadly yes00:32
* micahg wanted a full sync run done for the open sync requests, but this was ridiculous :)00:32
ajmitchhttp://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/oneiric/ may get a little shorter00:33
micahgyeah, although I filed requests for most of those already00:33
ajmitchah, nice00:33
ajmitchhow long was the ftbfs list for universe yesterday?00:36
micahg41100:38
ajmitch434 now, so not a huge jump00:38
micahgand we filed syncs that probably would've fixed at least 10 more00:38
micahgoh well, no use crying over spilled milk00:39
ajmitchit'd be a bit hard to go back00:39
micahgunfortunately, we also got caught up in some of the libjpeg-dev transition as well00:39
ajmitchmessy00:39
ajmitchhttp://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/oneiric/ is a lot shorter now00:40
micahgindeed :000:41
ScottKHandy.00:41
ajmitchodd, there are a few -XbuildY packages that didn't get synced00:41
micahgyep, that was a bug in the new system00:42
ScottKThat may be another bug.00:42
ajmitchgnat-4.6 was uploaded to sid more than a couple of days ago, didn't get synced (4.6.1-1 in oneiric)00:43
ajmitchso the autosync has a few bugs still :)00:43
dnivrahighvoltage: ping ?04:39
dholbachgood morning07:05
tumbleweedlooks like about 2 weeks worth of new FTBFS packages: http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/ubuntu-qa/qa-ftbfs/oneiric-historical.html08:11
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Laneyoh yay08:14
ajmitchLaney: you were getting bored anyway08:16
Laneypoor old universe getting disproportionately hit :(08:18
dupondjeuniverse: 434 packages08:19
dupondjeguess some work todo :D08:19
LaneyI just heard someone at the derivatives roundtable say that they did an archive rebuild of squeeze and only got 10 FTBFS08:20
Laneyjealous08:20
geserLaney: natty had only 16 known FTBFS and 4 depwait (on i386; amd64 was even better) at release, so not that bad08:24
Laneyin all components?08:25
dupondjehttp://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/natty.html08:25
dupondjeuniverse 130 :P08:25
Laneyi386/amd64 are pretty goofd really08:26
dupondjealot of linker issues in Oneiric FTBFS08:27
jtaylorwheren't those mostly handled already?08:28
jtaylorhm yes the autosync was not complete, e.g. the sugar-base versions where also not synced08:28
jtayloruploaded on 25. in debian08:29
dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cipux-storage/3.4.0.2-608:36
dupondjeplease trigger a rebuild08:36
dupondjewas broken dep, is fixed :)08:36
tumbleweeddupondje: retried08:40
dupondjeSuccessfully built on rothera (i386)08:44
dupondjeone down ! :D08:44
dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/easymp3gain/0.5.0-609:06
dupondjeretry plz ! :)09:07
tumbleweeddupondje: retried i386, if that builds, I'll do the others09:14
jtaylorshould build, the change to -6 is a patch from me09:14
dupondjeI tried locally also09:15
dupondjeit builds :)09:15
dupondjelibreadline5-dev is uninstallable ?09:17
dupondjeah should now use libreadline-gplv2-dev ?09:19
* Laney spies persia in the NM queue :-)09:30
tumbleweedLaney: he was attempting to get through it during debconf. But his advocate is lagging :)09:30
nigelb\o/09:30
Laneyyou fast NMers09:31
* Laney shakes fist09:31
* tumbleweed attempted to advocate him, but I need a key that only his advocate has (and there are also key strength issues...)09:31
* Laney wonders if anything on at debconf ATM is more enticing than listening to Pavement09:34
Laneyhaskell talk later :-O09:34
dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gitit/0.8.0.1-2 => also rebuild :)09:37
* Laney smells some haskell09:37
dupondjeindeed09:37
dupondjedevscripts depend error ;)09:37
Laneymashed09:37
nigelbLaney: hat off to your sense of smell ;)09:37
nigelb*hats09:37
Laney:>09:38
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hdbc/+bug/812454 fyi09:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 812454 in hdbc (Ubuntu) "Sync hdbc 2.2.6-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New]09:43
Laneywhy?09:43
dupondjeAs we are in sync again then?09:47
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dupondjeCould somebody do a testbuild of http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libg/libgphoto2/libgphoto2_2.4.11-3.dsc on armel ?10:04
c_kornI have a problem with build format 3 (quilt). my series file is applied entirely but debuild -S -sa fails: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=q0N2gwjp10:08
tumbleweedcan you pop and push your patches successfully? looks like thy are out of sync10:10
c_kornyeah, quilt pop -a and quilt push -a succeeds. but I think I know where the problem is. let me check...10:11
jtaylorI had the problem once when converting from 1.0 with direct upstream changes in debian.diff10:11
jtaylor3.0 then tried to apply the patches a second time10:12
c_kornthe problem was the upstream tarball10:12
tumbleweedwhat was wrong with it?10:12
Laneypatching POTFILES.skip is the worst10:12
c_kornit has one top level directory which is not the package-version name but is "usr". debuild did not get it. had to repackage it include a new top level directory with the correct name and put "usr" under it.10:13
tumbleweedc_korn: ah. Yes if there is only one top-level directory, it is assumed to be the package name10:14
c_kornI should tell upstream to change this. I think it is the common way in the open source community and not a specific Debian/Ubuntu policy.10:15
tumbleweedmore generally, it's common in tarballs :)10:16
jtaylortry getting windows upstreams to do that xD10:16
tumbleweedfortunatly they don't know what tarballs are10:17
Laneydpkg-source doesn't just rename the directory?10:17
Laneyor create the right one and unpack into it10:18
Laneyhmm10:18
tumbleweeddupondje: I couldn't test that under qemu, libgvc5 segfaulted in postinst10:18
jtaylorits configuring in mine10:19
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jtaylortumbleweed: did you hit bug 815933?10:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 815933 in graphviz (Ubuntu) "libgvc5 segfaults on installation on armel" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81593310:21
tumbleweedjtaylor: yes10:21
dupondjetumbleweed: Well it was merged from debian with 'Disabled graphviz from the Build-Dependencies on ARM'.10:52
dupondjeseems like we still need it :)10:52
dupondjeor not ? a the bug is closed with Invalid ...10:52
jtaylorit seems to work on the builders10:52
jtaylorwas that the reason for disabled graphviz?10:53
dupondjeFTBFS on ARM10:53
dupondjebut if thats fixed, we don't need to disable it anymore ofc10:53
dupondjesee https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/56742210:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 567422 in libgphoto2 (Ubuntu) "ARM FTBFS fix for libgphoto2 on lucid" [High,Fix released]10:54
jtaylordoes not look related to this issue10:58
jtaylorbut it could have been fixed in .1110:59
dupondjebut to test that it needs to get a real testbuild on armel :)11:00
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dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haskell-cprng-aes/0.2.1-111:47
dupondjerebuild plz :D11:47
Laneydoing11:51
Laneytwidge needs updating, if you fancy doing that11:53
Laneyi'll sponsor it as an nmu into debian for you11:53
dupondjeLaney: http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/twidge.html is newest no ?11:55
Laneyyes11:55
Laneyit is broken, see the bugs11:55
dupondjeI see11:56
dupondjelet me look :)11:56
Laneyshould be easy11:56
dupondjeif it builds on ghc7 yea :P12:01
Laneywhat was the way to work around the "gnomekeyring.IOError" in lpapi stuff? I can't remove python-gnomekeyring because some other things depend on it.12:02
dupondjeHaXml >=1.13.2 && <1.1912:05
dupondjestupid thing :)12:05
Laneybet it works if you change that12:06
dupondje`Content' is not applied to enough type arguments Expected kind `*', but `Content' has kind `* -> *'12:10
dupondjeboo ! :p12:10
Laney:'(12:13
dupondjecontentToString :: [Content] -> String12:15
dupondjethats the line ... but god :) I don't know Haskell :)12:15
tumbleweedLaney: it's in launchpadlib's NEWS12:16
Laneyah yeah, I couldn't remember where it was12:16
Laneybah12:17
tumbleweedpersia: now that my brain has unfogged, the advantage of my sponsorship miner over +related-packages is that it allows the sponsoree to see which sponsors to poke, and gives them an easy way to see the uploads they sponsored. Less useful for you, more useful for the sponsoree and endorser12:21
dupondjeLaney: http://projects.haskell.org/HaXml/migrate.html12:28
dupondje:)12:28
dupondjebut I don't understand a *** from it :)12:29
dupondjehéhé12:29
persiatumbleweed: I'm not generally in favour of hard relationship between sponsors and endorsers: I'd rather see endorsements from people who interacted as peers in various places, rather than just from folk who sponsored diffs: I can read the diffs, so if the endorsement is just comment on the quality of the change, I have to infer the opinion of the endorser by mostly guesswork.12:34
persiatumbleweed: Conversely, if someone says "I've seen them answering lots of questions on IRC (or in email, or whatever), and they are a major contributor to ${DEVELOPMENT_TEAM}", that is a lot clearer to me.12:35
persiaAs a result, while I recognize the feature difference, I question it's value :)12:35
tumbleweedit was useful to me when endorsing people, as I am pretty forgetful :)12:36
persiatumbleweed: I suppose.  I'd rather read your endorsement based on you having a sense they are a good person, and have done good things, then because you did a review of their specific diffs, but that may just be me.12:36
persiaFolk you remember are more likely to be your peers, to my way of thinking.12:37
hrwCan't locate Locale/gettext.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.12.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.12.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.12 /usr/share/perl/5.12 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/dpkg-cross line 6.12:37
hrwBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/dpkg-cross line 6.12:37
tumbleweedpersia: of course I remember them. I don't remember the details of everything I did with htem, which means I don''t know how rounded their experience is and how many issues I ran into with them12:37
hrwsorry12:37
persiatumbleweed: Ah, that's fair.12:38
* tumbleweed wonders if its safe to dist-upgrade today12:38
dupondjeLaney: fixing twidge doesn't seem as easy as expected. need to have some knowledge to adjust the code to build against newer HaXml12:43
Laneyok no worries12:43
Laneyi will do it12:44
dupondjeok :D12:44
dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haskell-cprng-aes/0.2.1-1 => still this should build fine now? Tested it locally in a pbuilder12:44
hrwbtw - is there a requirement that versions in debian/changelog do not contain holes? so 1.51 -> 1.53 should not be used12:46
persiahrw: There is no such requirement, but it's recommended to avoid this for native packages where possible.12:48
dupondjeconfigure: error: Python.h not found12:48
dupondjemmmm :)12:48
Laneydpkg-deb: building package `twidge' in `../twidge_1.0.8.1+nmu1_amd64.deb'.12:50
dupondjeLaney++12:51
Laneynot sure I fully understand the new api12:51
Laneybut ho hum12:51
dupondje:P12:52
dupondjeits not really the sweetest coding language imo :)12:52
* Laney fixes a laser stare12:53
tumbleweedLaney: haskell debconf talk time12:54
Laneyoh!12:56
Laneygood reminder12:56
hrwcan someone take care of bug 817513 for me?13:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 817513 in dpkg-cross (Ubuntu) "Merge 2.6.5 from Debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81751313:06
hrwdebdiff attached13:06
hrwpersia: thx for info13:07
dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/underscore/1.1.6-113:07
dupondjebuilds fine now :)13:07
dupondjeI wish I had a rebuild button :p13:36
Laneythat should be done by the depwait checker13:37
dupondjebut somehow it didn't :s13:38
geserdupondje: once you sponsors get sick of pushing buttons for you, they try to push you for MOTU13:38
Laneytumbleweed: recognise those graphs? :P13:38
dupondjegeser: i'm working on it ;)13:38
tumbleweedLaney: I remember them being uglier :)13:38
tumbleweeddupondje: rebuilt13:39
dupondjelibreadline5-dev got removed by a sync yesterday13:39
dupondjegreat :D13:39
tumbleweedLaney: IIRC the depwait checker is buggy13:39
Laneywould have been a test case for wgrant then :-)13:40
tumbleweedI'm sure we'll find more :)13:41
* Laney waves13:44
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dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netifaces/0.5-2.1ubuntu114:17
dupondjeand this one seems to build fine also14:17
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hrwargh... new day, new lintian warning learnt15:34
hrwpatch-modifying-debian-files this time15:34
Laneyall good fun15:36
hrwwill move patches to debian/patches/gcc/ instead.15:37
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Laneydupondje: erm, how did you build that?15:39
Laneyit fails.15:39
dupondjenetifaces? In pbuilder it worked here :s15:39
Laneywell not here and not on the buildd15:40
dupondjeweird :s15:40
Laneydid you look at the failure reason and see if it still applied?15:41
LaneyFound files in /usr/local/lib/python2.7 (must be in /usr/lib for python2.7).15:41
Laneyzul: you might want to check the failure of netifaces (you uploaded it)15:43
zulits on my todo list15:43
Laneygreat, ty15:43
dupondjedpkg-deb: building package `python-netifaces-dbg' in `../python-netifaces-dbg_0.5-2.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb'.15:43
dupondjeheh :s15:43
Laneyhave a look at the contents of the package though15:44
Laneyi don't know what does that sanity check but you probably dont have it15:44
dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin-skype/20110407+svn612+dfsg-1 => this one should build also now :)15:46
Laneyno.15:48
dupondjedependency shizzle is fixed, but it fails indeed15:50
dupondjesorry15:50
micahgdupondje: no, I have a patch for that one15:51
micahgdupondje: that's a multiarch issue15:51
Laneyit fails in debian too15:52
Laneyfile an rcbug15:52
Laney:-)15:52
micahgLaney: I'm going to send my patch to debian15:52
Laneyexcellent15:53
micahgbut good to know it fails there now too, I'll use the virtual FTBFS status15:53
Laneyif you don't get a response then i will sponsor an nmu for you15:53
jtaylorconcerning all the as-needed patches I sent to debian, should I apply them in an ubuntu delta before the feature freeze or can that be done later too?15:53
Laneylater, but don't forget15:54
jtaylorfor those where there was no debian maintainer reaction15:54
Laneymake sure to ping the bugs15:54
dupondjeIf we fixed a ftbfs with an ubuntu delta, and debian fixed it. Sync again or leave it ?15:59
micahgdupondje: leave it at this point unless there's some other interesting change15:59
micahgdupondje: unless it was fixed last cycle in which case syncing rebuilds with the new toolchain16:00
Laneynote in merge-o-matic that the diff in ubuntuX is no longer needed16:04
dupondjemmm, apt-file broken ?16:04
dupondjeIgnoring source without Contents File: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/Contents-amd64.gz16:05
dupondjemicahg:16:38
micahgdupondje: so, $_ is whatever the current array value is16:38
dupondjebefore it tries: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/Contents-amd64.gz16:38
micahgif you remove it, then you can remove the surrounding loop as well16:38
dupondjeafter: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Contents-amd64.gz16:38
micahgdupondje: right, so that part is fine, it's just now the surrounding loop is useless :)16:40
dupondjeyou sure? cause it still need to loop over oneiric oneiric-updates etc ?16:40
dupondjethe loop wasn't introduced into 2.5.0 neither btw16:40
micahgdupondje: that's not what that foreach does though16:41
* micahg grabs the code16:41
micahgdupondje: it's splitting on white-space16:44
micahgdupondje: $_ represents whatever is in @extra one at a time, so it's just pushing the same thing multiple times into that reference16:45
micahgunless I'm missing something16:45
micahgdupondje: you're right, I'm quite confused16:47
Laneydebian has contents in dists/.../main and dists/...16:47
micahgdupondje: ah, ignore me, I forgot about the implicit use of $_ in the pattern match16:47
Laneythe latter is a symlink16:47
micahgLaney: I was just trying to figure out why the loop wasn't worthless16:48
dupondjeLaney: indeed, but we don't have :)16:48
dupondjeso its broken :D16:48
LaneyI suspect the symlink wasn't there when debian made that change16:51
Laneyyou could talk to thijs about reverting it16:51
Laney(if ftpmaster plan on keeping it there)16:52
* Laney is out, toodles16:52
LaserJockis there a FTBFS list for Universe?17:05
jtaylorLaserJock: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/natty.html17:06
LaserJockjtaylor: thanks17:11
geserdupondje, Laney: pkgbinarymangler does the sanity check17:14
micahgLaserJock: there should be a link for oneiric on that page17:15
jtayloror you just replace natty with oneiric when pasting ;)17:16
geseror just use http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/17:17
Davieyjtaylor: sounds to me that you have underestimated how lazy some of us are.17:17
geserlinks are there to be clicked :)17:17
LaserJockgeser: heh, xchat had it buried17:23
dupondjebleh18:43
dupondjewant to fix boinc, but seems I can't fix it :(18:43
dupondje:p18:43
dupondjegtk/taskbarex.cpp:20:21: fatal error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory => So I need to add -I/usr/include/gtk-2.018:45
dupondjebut can't get it to it seems :s18:45
micahgdupondje: no, you need to use pkg-config18:45
dupondjeboincmgr_CPPFLAGS = $(AM_CPPFLAGS) $(WX_CPPFLAGS) $(SQLITE3_CPPFLAGS) $(LIBNOTIFY_CFLAGS) $(CLIENTGUIFLAGS)19:38
dupondjeis in the Makefile.am19:38
dupondjethen added to configure.ac: CLIENTGUIFLAGS="${CLIENTGUIFLAGS} ${GTK_CFLAGS}"19:39
dupondjebut seems the GTK_CFLAGS never get aded :s19:40
* micahg isn't sure which is run first19:40
micahgdupondje: are GTK_CFLAGS populated in configure?19:41
dupondjethere is m4/gtk-2.0.m419:42
dupondjewhich should do that19:42
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dupondjemicahg: could you have a look with me or :)20:33
micahgdupondje: not right now, maybe later20:33
dupondjek20:33
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dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libclaw/1.6.1-5 => is waiting for a dep21:14
dupondjethat is in ubuntu ... :)21:14
dupondjeand builds fine in my pbuilder21:15
micahgdupondje: dep doesn't exist21:17
micahgoh, maybe it does now21:17
dupondjelibjpeg62-dev provides it21:17
micahgweird, both options are in main as well21:19
dupondjehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gargoyle-free/2010.1-221:20
dupondjewaiting for the same ...21:20
dupondjestrange really :)21:20
micahgdupondje: there are a lot of packages like that21:20
dupondjeyea indeed21:21
dupondjefor some odd reason :)21:21
dupondjebut gtg now21:22
* ajmitch needs to check in an oneiric chroot, but it's possible that libjpeg62-dev & libjpeg8-dev both provide the same virtual package21:22
ajmitchsince libjpeg6b hasn't been updated for 13 weeks21:22
micahgajmitch: right, apt doesn't know which one to use so it fails21:22
ajmitchhttp://packages.qa.debian.org/libj/libjpeg6b/news/20110708T221903Z.html needs to be merged21:22
ajmitchso that the transition to libjpeg8 can go ahead21:22
micahgajmitch: I asked about that in devel, we already have a few transitions that aren't done yet, I guess I should send a mail to ubuntu-devel about it instead21:23
micahgthere are ~300 packages for the libjpeg transition21:23
ajmitchyou'll see that in debian, there was a libjpeg8 & a libjpeg62 upload on the same day, switching which package Provides: libjpeg-dev21:23
ajmitchoh this'll be *fun*21:24
micahgajmitch: we weren't supposed to get the new libjpeg8 :)21:24
ajmitchI know :)21:24
ajmitchnow that we have it, who gets to coordinate this mess?21:24
micahgajmitch: well, if the transition happens, we'll set it up in the tracker, the question is should it happen21:26
ajmitchright, someone needs to be able to decide that21:27
micahgTB?21:27
ajmitchprobably21:27
ajmitchor just a mail to ubuntu-devel to see what people think21:28
micahgwell, I'll send a mail to ubuntu-devel first21:28
micahgactually, I thought doko already did21:28
ajmitchnothing that I can see from him about it21:29
micahgnope, idk where I saw that...21:29
micahgajmitch: sent to the release team w/a cc to ubuntu-devel22:56
ajmitchexcellent22:59
ajmitchmicahg: quick reply, at least23:30
micahgajmitch: that's good, hopefully by tomorrow, a "fixed" version of libjpeg8 will get uploaded and we can gave all the FTBFS ones back23:33
ajmitchthat should cut down the list a bit23:34
ajmitchhardest part of the upload is writing the changelog23:38
micahgheh23:39

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